Can't thank you enough for making this video. My 2018 Ford Focus suffered a wet belt failure at 33000 miles. Been chasing my tail trying to find my cars service history as Ford customer care said they would not touch the car unless it had a full service history. They never mentioned the 2020 gap (this was the only one I was missing). Sent my case back and it has been approved for repair. 6 weeks without my car so far, what a nightmare.
@carukchannel
3 ай бұрын
Fantastic to hear, I have pinned this post to show how content like this can spread the word and help so many people affected by this issue. Glad you got it all sorted 👍
@as-h3928
3 ай бұрын
@@carukchannel absolutely, without the additional information it's likely that I would have covered it myself. My repairs aren't scheduled until mid-July unfortunately. I'll be interested to see what version of the engine is put back into the car when they get around to it
@NigelSmith-rh7bl
2 ай бұрын
Just had my belt changed.! 44k miles but 7 yes old.!£1500.,!!!! Bloody ridiculous....
@eddiek821
2 ай бұрын
@as-h3928 Trouble is the 19 plate onwards engine went to a chain but the oil pump is still on a wet belt so the same is still going to happen.
@eddiek821
2 ай бұрын
@@NigelSmith-rh7blMy local independent garage are changing them for £600 with the correct tools that only ford reckon they have to make you think you can only go to them for it.
@chriswilson263
3 ай бұрын
Peugeot, Citroen etc should follow suit and repair or replace their troublesome pure tech 1.2 engines.
@sbrader97
3 ай бұрын
I thought they already did do a recall because its a safety issue due to it affecting the brakes in the worst case scenario
@peterg3661
3 ай бұрын
I Read an artical yesterday it mentioned that they new before production that the belt degrades due to fuel mixing in with the oil which is causing the belts to degrade.
@jonsimmons4150
3 ай бұрын
pureshite -typo
@zzhughesd
3 ай бұрын
Yup. Same same tech. Prob designed similar technical departments
@denisewarner8982
3 ай бұрын
I have a 1.2 Citroen puretech c3, worrying
@Markdmarque
3 ай бұрын
Because they are being sued in USA!!!...They should be recalled here too!!!
@house89147
3 ай бұрын
Yep if it happens in one country others should have the same rights. VW are the same I've had failures on my Passat that would have been covered in the USA, VW here want to plug in their gear tell you it's what you knew and that it's not covered in the UK and you now need to pay for their time diaging the car (In my case the clock spring in the steering wheel which failed because of dirt (hair) ingress. With Mini also doing the same thing but for their diesel egr issues, not covered for failure in the UK however there is a recall for the cooler. In our case the egr failed 2 months before they recalled it for the cooler. The egr fails because of the cooler in our case it failed before 27k miles. Mini garage said we can get it refunded if we talk to mini, mini came back and said no refund because the garage said it wasn't covered. Warenteed at this point are just extra loo roll.
@ukcitizen1158
3 ай бұрын
Problem is not with the manufacturers. Problem is that Governments outside the U.S are pathetic and can't enforce anything on behalf of themselves or consumers. The U.S Govt. tare manufacturers a new arse hole, that's the way it should be done!
@phoenix3872
2 ай бұрын
We in the UK need to start doing what the Americans do and start suing these companies like Ford (and Jaguar - Land Rove) together as a big lawsuit Buying a brand new car/s, is one of the biggest purchases one could make, and for them to fail within a few years is completely unacceptable
@robertjones3477
Ай бұрын
It would cost millions as in the US it only affects 140,000 cars. In Europe your talking millions of cars that's why. The are clever as they will be hoping that cars reach 10 years old and hope some people don't have full service history
@robertjones3477
Ай бұрын
Won't happen as US was only 140,000 cars and there's millions in Europe so they will be hoping cars reach 10 yrs old or people don't have full service history as the cars they are talking about for Ford good will gesture only go up to 2018 as they made changes in 2019. I recommend you get the sump removed to check for belt wear particals both in the sump and to see if any particals are stuck in the oil pump filter not your main oil filter alrhough you would change that anyway- also should be able to see belt for teeth wear.
@ThomasKilkenny
3 ай бұрын
You've played your part in getting us this far. Good on ya' fellah!
@mikejoseph425
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this information. My daughter has just had this issue on her 55k mile 9 year old Fiesta. I just hope she has a full service history
@MattBrownbill
3 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for those who scrapped their cars or traded them at a massive loss. They will get nothing 😔
@ClaireBlunden-xs7ji
3 ай бұрын
We literally did just that last Friday 😢
@MattBrownbill
3 ай бұрын
@@ClaireBlunden-xs7ji damn. My friend lost thousands trading his Festa in, with an engine that sounded like a bag of nuts in a washing machine.
@frankf3248
3 ай бұрын
Yep! It happened to my son, basically got washers for it in a trade in.
@GeorginaMahoney
3 ай бұрын
I did that 2 weeks ago 😢
@tardeliesmagic
3 ай бұрын
It's such a con!
@tomoreilly9932
3 ай бұрын
Well done Lee for putting a bee in their bonnet,they can't ignore the problem anymore,and I hope they will help owners financially to change these belt systems.
@stephenwilliams926
3 ай бұрын
Imagine some people might have been in the window to get it fixed, but they have scrapped the car now.
@m.shearer5233
3 ай бұрын
I don't have a full service history on my 2017 ecoboom so that's game over and another lesson learned.
@bird6691
3 ай бұрын
Fake it like they failed every aspect of the engine
@JJVernig
2 ай бұрын
Just a check: You didn't change oil? Or did you do it yourself? Don't you have a invoice for that?
@TobiasCat-p6b
Ай бұрын
@@JJVernig Ford will NOT accept owner maintenance as proof of correct servicing. Before minimum wages, a car cleaner could be on £2/hour and half 'his' (really male only in the mid-nineties) day was working at a Citroën dealership servicing your £20k Xantia... The service record's actually irrelevant when dealing with such a flawed engine? They should pay out £3-7k for every dead Eco Boost 1.0 regardless.
@MrNaKillshots
Ай бұрын
Just change the belt every 5 years.
@BikingChap
11 күн бұрын
Well, if you don't service the engine...
@stevehaines6343
3 ай бұрын
That's Lee for keeping us updated on this ongoing problem.
@markallen7443
3 ай бұрын
Well done mate......the people's champion😁👏👏👏😂
@carukchannel
3 ай бұрын
hardly but thanks for the view and the kind words mark 👍
@abc-ye2ec
3 ай бұрын
I just scrapped my 16 yr old Ford focus and bought a Toyota, because reliability is important to me...I dont think I will ever buy another ford.
@st200ol
3 ай бұрын
16 years isn’t a bad lifespan. We all know that manufacturers build stuff to last 1 day past the warranty.
@chalikuddin5700
3 ай бұрын
Glad you made the best decision ford unreliable it’s money pit
@regjenkinson6247
3 ай бұрын
I've had 3 Toyotas and two fiestas and had more trouble with Toyota than the fiestas in fact my 15plate and the wife's 14 plate 1ltr ecoboosts which we've had for 5yr each have been great also we've not payed a penny in road tax but having said that I wouldn't buy a focus either
@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491
3 ай бұрын
16 year old focuses are pretty reliable cars... far better than the ecoboom era Fords!
@abc-ye2ec
3 ай бұрын
@@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491 yh, but the rust on 16 yr old fords is too much.
@damianleah6744
3 ай бұрын
Took them long enough to fix it. Obviously the adverse publicity is making them get a move on with. They still have their heads in the sand.
@yammy1000
2 ай бұрын
Trouble is, it's not a fix. It's a band-aid to delay the inevitable failures.
@BikingChap
11 күн бұрын
@@yammy1000 well if they're covering them for ten years / 150,000 miles that seems more than reasonable.
@RogueTrader-
3 ай бұрын
I still can't believe they were stupid enough put these in their vans after they finally sorted out the rust problems. Though all new vans are junk now tbh
@MattBrownbill
3 ай бұрын
I also can't believe they made the transit FWD.
@hedydd2
3 ай бұрын
@@MattBrownbill You have a choice. The larger vans can be rear wheel drive.
@stephenwaters7105
3 ай бұрын
Only a couple of weeks ago ford refused to accept responsibility for my 2016 focus with an ecoboost engine (also an automatic) 70,000 miles, which has now cost me £2304.00 to rebuild. They're a bloody disgrace and I will never buy another ford.
@HypocrisyLaidBare
3 ай бұрын
Congratulations, welcome to the world of the sane.
@dannyboyy31
2 ай бұрын
@@HypocrisyLaidBare Loving my 8-year old Focus ST - not a single issue with it, and it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I must be insane 😄
@brianfearn4246
2 ай бұрын
@@dannyboyy31that's because you're ST has a proper engine like mine 😊
@ciaranbyrne62
2 ай бұрын
@@brianfearn4246ah is it a specific year?
@carljasonbarrett1970
2 ай бұрын
Avoid Ford's, Peugeot's & Vauxhall's when buying new & used & someone should set up a social media group about boycotting these car brands & perhaps these brands will listen
@philiplindley7384
3 ай бұрын
The whole thing is just delaying tactics due to the potential costs involved, plus some of the problems disappear with time, like the customers.
@BillRees
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos on this issue, especially this one. They've have really helped us out (massively). Our 2017 Eco Boost Focus failed two weeks ago at 49K miles. It is currently sitting forlornly on the drive after being recovered by Green Flag. I'd never heard of this problem before. After viewing your videos I went to the local main Ford dealer armed with my independent garage service history, which they appeared to accept. Its booked in for "Analysis" next week. This is costing about £140 which I hope to reclaim later. I'll tell you how it goes. Thanks again.
@BillRees
2 ай бұрын
After the failure we've now had the car "analysed" by the dealer (£130) and they've said in essence there no oil pressure and the engine is b*ggered (not the term they used) . To be fair they've been quite helpful. They are now pursuing the issue with Ford on our behalf. So far so good. Update in the near future.
@ChopsGarage
3 ай бұрын
Reduced cambelt intervals breach a contract at sale as far as I'm concerned 4years sooner hits fleets big time
@carukchannel
3 ай бұрын
⬆️⬆️ Very good point 👏
@ColinGibb-d3o
3 ай бұрын
Just had that news for my Citroen C4! Cambelt at manufacture was 10 years 112,000 miles, took it to my mechanic for service 2 weeks ago, he’s told me they’ve changed it to 6 years 62,000!!!
@mattdenker
3 ай бұрын
Hi I had engine overheat back in 2022 Ford replaced engine but I lost £1200 down to having to hire a vehicle so that I could get to work, I was not impressed by first attitude and fobbing me off
@SethPowell7
3 ай бұрын
Ford should have to pay for the added changes above the original factory schedule. The added maintenance expense may have affected purchase decisions.
@paulstace6058
Ай бұрын
@@mattdenkerwhat happened to the temperature gauge
@andyhill6398
3 ай бұрын
Must be a massive potential market for someone to make a chain conversion kit..
@volt8684
3 ай бұрын
How about Ford doing it
@MIK23458
3 ай бұрын
Great idea, now you’ve some spare time Andy how about you give it a go? 😉😊
@andyhill6398
3 ай бұрын
@@MIK23458 Spare time ? what's that? don't know how i used to find the time to work. Hahaha.
@edwardkantowicz4707
3 ай бұрын
Was thinking exactly the same solution!
@Xenon777_
3 ай бұрын
Just steal the bike chain and sprockets off your bike :P
@linedancer111
3 ай бұрын
This could be great news to my son, his partner had no warning on the M6 when her engine just exploded, but Ford refused to help !
@davidhoneysett8245
3 ай бұрын
And when the car is 10 years old, you are on your own, scrap value, anything longer is a bonus. Cars should easily last for 15 to 20 years these days, but not Ford Eco-Boom.
@boyasaka
3 ай бұрын
Honda 1,0 in their civic from 2017 to 2023 ( mark 10) Also has a wet belt And honda has finally done a recall ,costing them millions 3 cylinder engines ,bad idea Wet belt ,bad idea Same as dpf ,egr valve ,bad idea
@TRD1949uk
3 ай бұрын
That is the product life cycle mate. The 1.0 engine when it first launched I had friends in dealer who got told don’t worry you’ll never change a belt on one of these the engine is designed to be throw away at 10 years or 125 so we’d advise replace engine at that
@stevendouglas6593
3 ай бұрын
Buy a Toyota.
@gamesmaster1060
3 ай бұрын
No@@stevendouglas6593
@The_Noticer.
3 ай бұрын
@@stevendouglas6593 The Toyota V35A engine would like a word with you. All brands have duds.
@Spark-Hole
3 ай бұрын
The more Ford makes cars, the more I respect Toyota.
@HypocrisyLaidBare
3 ай бұрын
The more I see and hear about Ford, the less I love my Volvo.
@Spark-Hole
3 ай бұрын
@@HypocrisyLaidBare Last time I drove Volvo, and that was 24 years ago. The car was very good. Hope Ford didn't send its design team to Sweden.
@jimalcott760
3 ай бұрын
What about Toyota’s new problems with their trucks…?
@dean6125
3 ай бұрын
Toyota cars not in my taste though
@paul_nwsxs
3 ай бұрын
@@jimalcott760 it,s the tacom in the usa that they are having a problem with, it,s an engine we don,t get in the uk or europe
@royshaft
3 ай бұрын
Too late ! My mum’s went bang , she replaced her derelict with a Honda and never looked back. Ford can kick rocks .
@TobiasCat-p6b
Ай бұрын
I recommended Honda to every customer looking to replace their Citroën when I knew they were replacing their car. Never saw them again. Really! Citroën cars are simply for customers wanting a quirky, cheaply-made hobby-car. The Citroen C1 being the exception (clue: it's a TOYOTA in disguise).
@thomasrogers4534
3 ай бұрын
Just had belts replaced on 2014 Focus 1.0 ecoboost manual estate, at ford main dealer Aberdare, cost: £1,240.00. We only do about 5k a year (68k in total) so that, I think, reduced the possibility of engine failure. Plus never missed a main dealer service. I would never buy another wet belt car, so who in their right mind would buy ours?? We either run the car into the ground (we actually love the car) as we do such little milage or take a huge hit on trade in? N.B. the car to date has cost in repairs with the above belt £3k including *leaking slave brake cylinder at 50k, as brake cylinder in bell housing also changed clutch. *Front brake discs *Engine mounting bolt snapped and engine collapsed (luckily happened on driveway) Did I say we love this car??!! Thank you Car UK
@ouethojlkjn
3 ай бұрын
Engine collapsed?? do you mean the engine dropped off its mounting? Sounds nasty anyway.
@xKazor666x
3 ай бұрын
Did ford compensate the cost? I'm confused what you're supposed to do about a belt that could fail at any time. Ford focus 1.0 101k 2016 plate.
@thomasrogers4534
3 ай бұрын
@@xKazor666x As our car is ten years old it required a belt change as per Ford recommendation. I was told by Ford dealer that the recommended belt change mileage has been reduced from 150k to 120k. As the engine had no issues there would be no financial compensation.
@thomasrogers4534
3 ай бұрын
@@ouethojlkjn The bolt on the engine mounting under the battery snapped and engine dropped. This mounting allows the engine to be lowered to work on the gearbox. It was suggested by AA and mechanic that the bolt was over torqued when replaced after work carried out on gearbox?
@ouethojlkjn
3 ай бұрын
@@thomasrogers4534 Bloody Hell - I hope you get it sorted and you are not out of pocket. Best of luck with it.
@VSTV1993
3 ай бұрын
2 of my work colleagues have suffered with the wet belt failure (within a month of each other) one of them a focus the other a fiesta, focus driver has a totled engine and my boss with the fiesta managed to save his (just about) as he said he started hearing a strange noise so he stopped driving. He paid £1.3k for engine repair (new belt and engine flush etc) his mechanic who did the work said it was a VERY VERY close call
@Rawdil
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for standing up for the general public. You wouldn't hear this kind of information in the news or local media.
@karter5351
3 ай бұрын
Ford Ecoboom, about time. It takes the states with their class action lawsuits to bring around a dose of common sense
@hughmarcus1
3 ай бұрын
Class action lawsuits are possible in the UK too. The US has very stringent laws around vehicles being fit for purpose hence the chances of success is far higher.
@tonycharlton4296
3 ай бұрын
100,000 and booked for a wet belt replacement in September. I’ll look into this further but it seems promising. Apart from that my Fords with wet belts have been absolutely reliable.
@bobmartin5101
3 ай бұрын
FORD......The "Boeing" of the 4 wheeled transport.
@davidpearson243
3 ай бұрын
I thought Ford were good until I got a VW now wouldn’t have anything else (I have a Skoda now )
@stevecoinitin7521
3 ай бұрын
@@davidpearson243 Yep, I had a couple of truly awful Fiestas, my mate and his nephew both suffered horribly with mk3 Escorts...engine dying @ 53k, my mates @78k plus 2 more engines lasting 2k and 7 k lol! There was me driving a few bulletproof 1.8 and 2.0L engined Cavalier's over a 15 year period. Never a problem. My mate bought an 89 2.0L Cavalier and took it from 128,000 miles to 268,000 miles in 4 years without a hint of a problem! My mate even did about 75,000 miles in an 84 Polo estate (pre Fox) in 3 years with regular services.
@Shutityou
3 ай бұрын
@@davidpearson243my vw T6.1 has been a total money pit.
@paintingdecoratingwithzac7340
3 ай бұрын
I bet you've been driven as many Fords as.....Boeings
@briancarton1804
3 ай бұрын
@@davidpearson243Get a Toyota and you will never touch a VW product again. Once upon a time I would have also said Honda but they have slipped up badly in recent years. I drive a 2007 Honda Accord myself but won't be buying a new Honda unless they improve greatly. Just about all manufacturers are making crap these days with the exception of Toyota and even they are not as good as they used to be.
@nigelpiercy4895
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for that, well put together. Still pissed at dealer quoting £2200 for wet belt replacement and service. 31k on the clock on 2017 eco boost. Daylight robery/ rubbery
@carukchannel
3 ай бұрын
plenty of specialists now doing belt replacement for 800 mark have a look on eBay for wet belt replacement service. there are some good guys on there doing them for traders who also take on public work
@LennertWelleman
3 ай бұрын
A friend of mine got a quote from a Dutch Ford dealer for a 2013 Focus with about 110.000 miles from € 2.800,-. I bought a Fiesta ST line X 125 EcoBoost Hybrid but that should have a distribution chain as I understand. Mine is from 2021 and had done 45.000 miles( 32.000 when I bought it). Does it help when I change oil after 7 or 8 months in stead of 2 years? Sorry for my English
@LennertWelleman
3 ай бұрын
The quote was for a new distribution belt.
@adewhite3921
3 ай бұрын
Lucky enough after seeing your video I've booked my 2015 1Ltr ecoboost with 47000 on the clock in for a wet belt change at my local garage. I've been quoted about £950-£1000. After that's been done I'm getting rid of it. At least I can get a bit more trading it in if the belts have been done as I've had a few traders say they don't take ecoboosts.
@bv3bv334
3 ай бұрын
I'm getting mine done next week at a place in Rochdale. Has a great reputation. Will cost a grand 👍
@philsweeney8787
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update, really interesting but always disappointing to hear how big manufacturers operate now. I bought a used 1.0L EcoBoost Focus earlier in the year, died on the motorway ten days later (unrelated to wet belt, was leaking coolant) and went back to dealer. By chance, ended up watching your videos on EcoBoosts and as a result ended up opting for a 1.6L Duratec Focus, it does the job and it's not a race car but I'll take that over an engine clogged with rubber and brake failures any day! So, thanks for info and keep up the good work.
@adams7405
3 ай бұрын
Yes old fashioned 1.6 in my Focus, 250,000 miles and no problems.
@regjenkinson6247
3 ай бұрын
Seems like the focus are the bad boys for lots of problems
@philsweeney8787
3 ай бұрын
@@adams7405 250k is impressive…and reassuring! 👍
@petergrinnell2500
3 ай бұрын
Ford had taken to long to try sort this problem out with the junk engines as people have lost alot of money and many have been scrapped because of the problem so still don't look good and people still won't want ford to little to late to be fair but really good of you to tell everyone 👍
@Harry-vc7ut
2 ай бұрын
12 days ago I've purchased used ecosport. Today engine icon started flashing. I was lucky couse it happened just before my home. Less then 23000 miles.
@tonybingham334
3 ай бұрын
I have a 2014 Fiesta Ecoboost with 60.000 miles on clock and just had my wet belt replaced at my local Ford dealership a couple of weeks ago at a whopping eye watering cost of £1900, had service & MOT done @ the same time, not much change out of £2300, I also asked them to take photo's, just as well i got it done, oil pick up pump was starting to clog.
@dan44zzt231
3 ай бұрын
Two thirds of the value of the car on a belt service 😭
@jimmyjt16
3 ай бұрын
That’s a disgraceful cost to charge customers for their own doings. With this now announcement I’d be marching back in for a refund.
@paintingdecoratingwithzac7340
3 ай бұрын
Which belt was starting to degrade ...the timing belt or the oil pump one ?
@tonybingham334
3 ай бұрын
@@paintingdecoratingwithzac7340 timing belt
@adyhayward
3 ай бұрын
Mine went and had to fork out £7250 for the engine change. I lost my car docs i a house move, Called the dealer who told me to verify with Ford CRC who told me the service interval was 15k miles/ 12 months. The car was serviced on a service plan and the dealer didn't query my services. CRC came back that my service history is poor and no assistance will be given
@cptnemouk01
3 ай бұрын
Ford should sort the power shift gear box, while they're at it. I know it's discontinued but it's still affecting many people.
@guymanning8009
3 ай бұрын
That was really useful information thank you. I have had so many problems with fords over the years I’m getting really fed up with it
@philmoffett366
3 ай бұрын
I’ve got a 2022 puma and I’ve had 4 ecoboost vehicles from 2013 onwards and all done over 100k one of the focus I had I sold it with 180k on the clock and including that focus I haven’t had a single issue with the engines!………..just saying🤷♂️
@NickMackenzie-kb8mv
3 ай бұрын
Regular oil changes are the key, problems is people don’t have the cars serviced enough.
@TheWebstaff
3 ай бұрын
Op what are you doing? Go buy a lotto ticket!!
@Primerules
3 ай бұрын
@@NickMackenzie-kb8mvexactly. People moaning cause their engines go bang but they don’t service them
@hydorah
5 күн бұрын
There was no need for Ford to implement wet belts in the first place. It bring no advantage to you. It's a gamble. Keeping to specified intervals reduces the risk of failure but does not eliminate it. You've got away with it that's cool for you. But you should not even have the problem. Ford are being cheapskate dicks all over their vehicles. 2.7l F150 V6 has a wet belt oil pump drive. You can't even see it to check it. It runs inside the replace if removed plastic sump pan. 4 cars in 11 years with 100K and 180K on a couple of them? What the hell do you do?
@marcusmaximus451
3 ай бұрын
Interesting vlog Lee, I serviced the Mrs 68 plate Ecosport today, had a Ford service history upto 15k miles, now has 21k miles and I used blue print oil filter, Wix air filter and Westway 5w 20 fully synthetic oil to Ford correct spec, will change the spark plugs tomorrow when I have the correct size spark plug tool, NGK iridium only good quality, kind regards to you and everyone out there, Mark from Billericay 👍🌞🌞
@eddiereed5025
3 ай бұрын
you have too much money or are a bored mechanic at heart
@marcusmaximus451
3 ай бұрын
@@eddiereed5025 neither !!
@ThomasKilkenny
3 ай бұрын
Where can you get the right size spark plug tool from marcus? I want to change the plugs on mine too.
@marcusmaximus451
3 ай бұрын
@@ThomasKilkenny hello there, nice to see a positive question, if you type in search engine 14mm long reach spark plug socket, I found mine on Amazon, QWORK 2 pieces thin plug socket for £9.95 for a 14mm and 16mm attachment and with a built in magnet which is very good…..kind regards to you and take care, good luck 😉
@marcusmaximus451
3 ай бұрын
@@ThomasKilkenny hi there I found mine on Amazon for £9.95 QWORK 2 pieces thin wall spark plug socket set of 2 including a 14mm and 16mm with a built in magnet which is very good…….good luck and take care 😃👍
@geoffhobster5814
3 ай бұрын
Hello good news to some extent. My wife has a 1 litre ecoboost and at 49000 miles going well. To me Ford should fix this before failure and not wait until the engine goes bang. Well suppose the goodwill scheme is better than no support at all. Thanks for this video of the latest information of affected cars
@johnmcmahon4364
3 ай бұрын
Great information Lee for customers, well done for bringing the situation up to date
@user-xu5vl5th9n
3 ай бұрын
Wet belt can save 1% fuel consumption. Clearly worth it.
@hackney7106
3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@royfontaine5526
3 ай бұрын
100% if it can’t be driven!
@NordenEngineering
3 ай бұрын
How can a belt having to squeeze oil out of the way be more efficient than a belt in air
@G-ra-ha-m
3 ай бұрын
@@NordenEngineeringGood point, well made. I prefer gears 😊
@TrumanShow-im2ve
3 ай бұрын
More green BS pushed by the Globalist overlords. The Ford Zetec engines were superb. Rarely had any issues with them.
@vespasianfk
3 ай бұрын
After seeing your previous videos traded my 2020 Focus for a Toyota Corolla . So glad I did love it and everything about it feels better built than the Focus.
@IanMcPoland
3 ай бұрын
I know a lad with a transit custom 50k miles only 4 years old engine is toast, I know of a couple that failed at 40k
@TRD1949uk
3 ай бұрын
Had they been serviced? There’s vans on the road now used daily by a friend of mines company who service it every 2 years or 24k miles by Ford and the vans are 8 years old done 90k and still run perfect in daily use. But then hear or vans doing 50k that are 3/4 years old failing with no history and people wonder why
@IanMcPoland
3 ай бұрын
@@TRD1949uk fully serviced, a mate of mine has just bought a transit jumbo with 80k on it and changed the belt right away,the one he took off was perfect. I guess it's just the luck of the draw.
@Darkelf7201
3 ай бұрын
Great News!! Finally a result :) Well Done Lee
@carukchannel
3 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@craigdaly5111
3 ай бұрын
At least they’ve shifted a bit maybe they’ll be pushed further in time. I’m surprised no one has come up with an after market chain for both cambelt and fuel pump maybe a chain I dunno?
@basswars7060
9 күн бұрын
Whoever decided to put a belt inside an engine should be forced to apologize to every single owner.
@adamanthony7465
3 ай бұрын
Clear to the point explanation. Hats off 🎉
@carukchannel
3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot 😊
@mikeberry304
3 ай бұрын
It was funny how confident they were about their 1.0 ecoboost engines , that upto last year we in the trade could buy a full engine , in a crate direct from Ford , with oil filter , some sensors ,water pump , wet belt etc , rocker cover for £1150 trade plus vat , giving us over £250 discount , on an exchange basis
@BikingChap
11 күн бұрын
Interesting. If labour rates weren't such a joke it would be almost cheaper to swap the engines out than do a belt change.
@mikeberry304
11 күн бұрын
@@BikingChap they are now over £2500 plus VAT 🤣🤣
@BikingChap
11 күн бұрын
@@mikeberry304 figures, but still tempting when at 60-70k a cambelt is 2k ish retail.
@michaellavery4899
2 ай бұрын
I'm not a Ford driver but have followed your take on the story. Massive credit to you and the other campaigners who have fought so long and hard for justice. I hope everyone affected gets the relevant compensation.
@stephencope7178
3 ай бұрын
I enquired if my Vauxhall Corsa had this system fitted to my three cylinder engine. I was told it had, so I've got rid and purchased a Toyota diesel!!
@petefrys545
16 күн бұрын
Good informative video, we bought a second hand 2018 Ford Fiesta ecoboost in 2021 after we both retired our old Astra was on its last legs. The Fiesta seemed a good deal 8000 on the clock great condition. We've had no problems with it thus far but it does cause us some concerns. This video has at least given us some badis to take action if we do, thanks for the video.
@Turtle_Zed
Ай бұрын
Excellent video Thank you for posting it It’s almost incredulous that a company like Ford is still making mistakes with engine design (and component design eg heated windscreen washers). You would think that by now, there would no problems with the IC engine.
@doomybear7389
3 ай бұрын
I've worked in the motor trade all my working life and most what I call new-age engines have a problem because they are designed by computers and people with letters after their names and has never had hands on experience with real engines(in other words never got they're hands dirty)
@nervo6321
3 ай бұрын
Great video as usual Lee…why the hell would Ford build an engine with a cam belt that runs in oil…it’s madness.
@matthewgodwin3050
3 ай бұрын
The Ecoboom engine makes the Edsel look shrewd.
@brianfearn4246
2 ай бұрын
The 3 cylinder ford echoboost is nothing better than a elastic band in a toy car 😊
@michaelmarsh-bl9mg
3 ай бұрын
Great information Lee..... thanks 👍
@terryrobinson3016
3 ай бұрын
I have a ford fiesta ecoboost on a 64 plate. Full service history with 35,500 miles on it. Hopefully will have a bit more life in it for a while. Great video thanks for the update.
@DoubleG79234
3 ай бұрын
Are they going to recall all of the powershit boxes next ?!
@MIK23458
3 ай бұрын
Good point!
@Youtube_deleted_my_favourites
3 ай бұрын
What's the problem with these?
@DoubleG79234
3 ай бұрын
@@KZitem_deleted_my_favourites it’s not difficult, quick google search will tell you
@Chris-yc3mm
3 ай бұрын
Sold my focus this year as i did not want to pay so much for a belt change (it was still working fine. I just did not want the cost or worry arount it.) Shame as other that the wet belts it was a great car.
@johncarpenter5472
3 ай бұрын
Not everyone can afford electric cars and they're not worth it they call chuck away cars
@rob666lee
3 ай бұрын
Long and short of it is dont buy any engine with a wet belt ,even the short oil pump belt versions . Bring back the pinto lol
@andrewlowe693
3 ай бұрын
Bring back the good old Crossflow 😂
@chrisstephens6194
3 ай бұрын
Mk1 focus engines are awesome
@DavidSmith-ze2wi
3 ай бұрын
I've got a Pinto engined car, 44 years old still runs great.
@Tso007
6 күн бұрын
brilliant video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻well done
@markod7662
3 ай бұрын
I had a 2003 petrol ford focus 1.6 it was a robust engine, actually when i had to get rid of it because of rust it was still running perfectly fine. So ford tried to make the engine die sooner - and they succeeded. Fortunately i heard these eco boost engines are trash and i did not buy ford again!
@vevos_
3 ай бұрын
the engine itself is not bad... actually making such a smooth 3-cylinder engine is quite a feat. The wet belt is the issue. Wet belts are just not reliable enough yet.
@Hrossey
3 ай бұрын
@@vevos_Daihatsu has done it since 1959. 3 cylinder kings!
@MegaReddevil71
3 ай бұрын
The older zetec engines lasted well 200k mines done 196000 miles 1.8 zetec 💪ecoboost won't do that
@adrianwhitehead1950
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update. I was considering a fiesta for my daughter but this put me off Ford cars completely. Ford have been caught out here and the general public will go elsewhere. Ford need to have an internal review in order to regain public confidence in their products. I will not consider any Ford products due to this issue which is a shame as generally, their cars are great to drive.
@cmartin_ok
3 ай бұрын
Buy a VW Polo instead of a Fiesta, 1.2 bluetech 89bhp. Best used car I've ever bought. Fiesta ecoboost is more fun to drive but the Polo beats it in just about every other area in my experience
@adrianwhitehead1950
3 ай бұрын
@@cmartin_ok funny you should say that, she ended up with mk6 polo and loves it.
@Wellibob68
3 ай бұрын
Simple. Maintain the wet belts should be a ford's warranty period on wet belt engines period (any part that's a rubber belt in oil). If you own a eco boost wet belt sell it fast. Never buy a ford ecoboost wet belt system car, vehicle.
@ladalout245
3 ай бұрын
What a great summary of the current situation with this prolific engine, you're again helping lots of people for no other reason than the desire to do the right thing, so good on ye mate! I've told many people about the woes of this flawed engine and most people don't seem to believe me or say "I've never had any bother with mine" etc. Very annoying. They can't say that now!
@davidyoung9561
3 ай бұрын
What were Ford thinking with this idea? I would have thought with all their years of engineering expertise, they would have known that rubber in oil is never a good idea.
@mattbikes46
2 ай бұрын
Interesting stuff, thank you for making this. I've got a 2021 Transit Custom with 42K on the clock and the turbo just failed. The warranty ran out 4 months ago but amazingly without any fight at all Ford have offered to cover 90% of the cost.
@Original_Richard
3 ай бұрын
Why can't service history be logged online and print off. Bit like MOTs. Paper work gets lost all the time. It should be on a site where owners can get access
@LaurenceHallman
2 ай бұрын
Hi, I bought a 2013 C-Max in October 2023 with a good service history, and because it was 10 years old, I had the belts and pumps replaced. The mileage was 48k. I was given the parts they had replaced, and I have to say there had been no noticeable deterioration in them. I paid £780 for the work to be done.
@reddgilroy3457
3 ай бұрын
Apparently Ford replace their own diesel fleet at 80k but warranty to 100k or 3 years. Currently being charged £1000 per wet belt but got told by the dealer they re-use the old oil! We are having a full service as the wet belts are being changed increasing cost to over £1200. My van is just 3 years old with fsh and has done 90k and is booked in for a wet belt as it seems its a risk for the extra 20k miles. I've done 1 out of 4 vans at the moment. Mine will be the 2nd van I've had the belt replaced on. Its not just getting it done for free it's the down time and loss of earnings we would incur when or if it goes bang. I'll be going Mercedes for my fleet in future as the cost difference In a new van doesn't warrant the risk and extra depreciation as nice as the 170bhp customs are.
@boyasaka
3 ай бұрын
Do some diesels have wet belts ?
@tiagofermar
3 ай бұрын
They’ll never recall my car because I’ll never buy a ford car thanks to your video. I was about to pull the trigger on a new Ford Puma. At least my small commission they missed. Thank you 😊
@RichardBates-dk6pw
3 ай бұрын
Honda recalled there 1.0 s we had all are belts done for free 😊
@specialized500
15 күн бұрын
Excellent explanation
@tommy4244
3 ай бұрын
Damn…. Our ecoboost is a 2013 with 90,000 on the clock
@threeeyedfishy
3 ай бұрын
Same here and no decent service history when I bought it so just have to drive and hope.
@steve5772
3 ай бұрын
Then you've already won 👍
@markb4071
3 ай бұрын
We had a failure in our 62 plate focus ecoboost, ex-mobility car cost us over 4k for a 'new' engine ( with Ford Staff Discount) as there was one service 6+m late ( service 2 ) so basically told us to get lost Will try contacting them again but don't hold out any hope - car is now in my wife's name and not mins Thanks for this update :)
@boyasaka
3 ай бұрын
Anyone who bought a car with a timing belt inside the engine obviously does not do any research The second i heard about these engines long before they became a issue I was advising people not to buy a wet belt car It was from the start i very bad idea engineering wise Everyone manufacturer who developed a wet belt engine Ford Citoren Peugeot Honda All have had issues Why you ask The wet belt Reduces friction by about 20 percent Giving about 1 mpg more It drives me insane that they are constantly changing things thata not broke And in the meantime , Producing cars with issues that cars 30 years ago didnt have What happened making things better not worse Wet belt engines Dpf Erg Gearboxes made of chocolate
@tsd550
3 ай бұрын
I think you meant EGR, though the ERG has certainly done considerable damage too.
@MrJoshiej
3 ай бұрын
I have had my 70 Plate Ford Focus ST Line 1.0 Ecoboost manual for 2 Years now been very good so far but I don't really do high mileage in it
@brianbeck4055
3 ай бұрын
Well done that man 👍
@carukchannel
3 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@AnthonyToth-t5v
2 ай бұрын
I’m glad I have a fiat Scudo van 255999 miles three cambelts since new runs like a dream no wet belt crap for me just a simple 20 year old diesel. I had loads of fords in the eighties they were great but after seeing these new wet belt systems I’ve seen the light steering clear lol
@robertball3630
3 ай бұрын
Am I hearing you right? A belt in oil? That is madness. I know they have a drug problem in America but blimey.
@davidnorton5887
3 ай бұрын
European deigned and built. Nothing to do with America.
@Tekwyzard
3 ай бұрын
I thought the very same when a friends car, a Galaxy, or S-Max I think, dropped its guts on the motorway nearly three years ago, and my tiny 23 year old VW Polo valiantly towed him home. We looked inside the cam cover, no rotation of the camshaft, he had no warning, no oil light, or anything. He did some research, found the 'wet belt issue', told me and me response was literally ' You F'ing what? What moronic car manufacturer would run a rubber belt in oil, unless they had a death wish, or had ensured the early death of the engines?". We argued massively over it, repeatedly in fact, I couldn't, wouldn't, still can't believe it. Apparently even a lot of mechanics and dealerships knew nothing about it, but the dude was right, and I still owe him over doubting him on that issue.
@livc444111
3 ай бұрын
Yep, apparently the Transit circa 2008 already had a wet belt
@birkatron1
3 ай бұрын
Ours seized 2 weeks ago, sold it to a garage for £1500, was worth 3k selling privately.
@In_memory_of_Dad
3 ай бұрын
I think I'll stick with my 2 year old 2.0 hdi Citroën Spacetourer!!!
@boyasaka
3 ай бұрын
2 years old ?
@icekitty400
2 ай бұрын
Do know someone who works for a hire/leasing car company. On looking for another car he told me to steer clear from the Ecoboost engines for this exact reason as he gets to know of the common faults on cars.
@davewhittles
3 ай бұрын
they should have ditched it years ago
@sarboo
2 ай бұрын
Glad I came across this. I've got a 2016 Fiesta Zetec - serviced regularly and with less than 25k on the clock. I'm concerned though - it's our main car and I ferry the kids around in it. I'm wondering whether to just offload it now... I miss my '51 Fiesta - owned it from new until 2017. Not a single issue...just didn't have ISOFIX... 😢
@martinjackson565
3 ай бұрын
Don’t matter shouldn’t have a rubber belt in oil transits are just as bad
@carrapice
Ай бұрын
I am myself having this issue since last week here in Portugal, Fiesta st-line 1.0 ecoboost (125HP), been talking to Ford and tomorrow the car goes into de dealership, let`s see how it goes. Funny thing is that the warning "low motor oil pressure" only kicked in on cold start, stayed for about 1/2 seconds and then the car as normal, last time it was on travel, i was done, parked the damm thing for good.
@LiveoneLee
2 ай бұрын
I own a 2010 2.0TDCi Ford S-Max with a wet belt engine designation QXWA, I’ve just had the engine replaced because the garage couldn’t find the cause or location of severe oil loss that sprayed through the drivers side wheel and up the side of the car, so as part of the refit of a new low mileage engine the wet belt was replaced along with all the bits that go with it, not sure now when the service on that is next due (car was on 166820 miles) the engine is a 77k miles engine.
@ChopsGarage
3 ай бұрын
Must be registered keeper is a blag as you might of sold the car at big loss due to an engine failure or after paying for a fix
@carukchannel
3 ай бұрын
spot on @ChopsGarage Yes and lets face it if you cannot afford to fix it your hardly going to still have the car kicking around
@ChopsGarage
3 ай бұрын
@@carukchannel Exactly. Great vid as always mate, thanks for the info. Got 2 Ecoboost in for belts currently but at most cost unfortunately as just due on age , 10 years. As least I can keep hold of future ones with FSH and retail confidently.
@timpoole247
2 ай бұрын
Glad Ford are finally helping people who have suffered with the wetbelt issue. I have the coolant intrusion issue with my Ford Kuga 1.5lt Ecoboom, which unfortunately is now out of warranty at 8 years old and 53k miles. I was told by my local Ford dealer it's not a common issue, yet they have a technical document for this issue (so it must be common enough) recommending a new short block at the cost of £6000, car is only worth about £8000. The document in question is GSS 20-7037. I asked the dealer for a copy of this document but they wouldn't share. Any chance you have or can find a copy of it? Any advice for what I can do next? To make it worse, our water pump bearings are extremely noisy (another common fault with these engines) but I'm reluctant to replace it and get a timing belt done when the engine needs replacing anyway! Such a shame because we love the car, just wish it didn't have such an awfully designed engine under the bonnet!
@SammiEllis-i8n
3 ай бұрын
Mine went in December last year 3k for a new engine. Its now back in the garage with another problem..its also on finance
@carukchannel
3 ай бұрын
If it had fsh and under 10 years I would be speaking to ford customer service team
@Hrossey
3 ай бұрын
Grow a beard mate. Put a turban on. Put a free Palestine T-shirt on and call yourself Hamza. Don’t forget your pride flag. You’ll soon be sorted out by afore. Like, what you’re not bigots are you guys? Sorted 🏳️🌈😉🤣🤣
@GenoppteFliese
3 ай бұрын
On my shortlist there have been many cars from Stellantis group (Pure Tech wet belt engine) and I'm currently happily driving a long time rental Ford. But because of the wet cambelt issues that you can hear about in many repair shop videos, I stepped away from any engine with a wet cambelt. Latest theory I heard is that E10 fuel doesn't cope well with short distance cars and wet cambelts: when running a cold engine too much alcohol or petrol is mixing with the oil and the chemistry of that cocktail is decomposing the belt. When driving long distance engine and oil get much hotter and alcohol and petrol in the oil will vaporize before doing damage.
@thatcheapguy525
3 ай бұрын
Li, are you beginning to morph into the Martin Lewis of the car world?
@carukchannel
3 ай бұрын
He is getting a bob or two more than me TCG 🤣
@ClaireBlunden-xs7ji
3 ай бұрын
I am not really understanding the 2019 part as my son’s car was affected and registered in June 2019. Sadly we ended up having to sell to salvage as Ford UK were refusing any help and our local garage was not being supportive. It has been so stressful and we have suffered £££ financial loss - thanks Ford!
@cmartin_ok
3 ай бұрын
Ford changed the camshaft drive from wet belt to a proper metal chain around that time. Does anyone know how you tell from looking at the outside of the engine whether it has a belt or chain?
@stephengriffin9826
3 ай бұрын
@@cmartin_okopen ure oil filler cap looking into the top of cam shaft,it will show if belt or chain.
@ClaireBlunden-xs7ji
3 ай бұрын
@@stephengriffin9826 it’s a belt!
@silurian9420
3 ай бұрын
The Ford is my motor, I shall not want (another), It maketh me lie down in strange places, It's wet belt anointeth my head with oil.
@alanpatterson2759
3 ай бұрын
Brilliant! that made my day! thank you.
@m.shearer5233
3 ай бұрын
Well said 👍
@diecastculture7066
2 ай бұрын
Replacing the wet belt today on the 2019 Transit I have just purchased - 113k costing me £1500. My dream of owning a Transit which I can also use as a camper has been tarnished by Ford. Not only is the belt's robustness an ongoing worry, I didn't budget for this - I hope the new belt will be problem free.
@geetee7154
3 ай бұрын
The issue here is with the service history which will be the sticking point, how many privately owned Ford's with this engine will actually have the service carried out to the manufacturer schedule, we all know once a car is out of manufacture warranty the service on a car tends be the last thing most owners will look at doing, as a car owner myself, I tend to stretch the service due date to fit my budget, not to what a motor manufacturer recommends, for the sake of this discussion, instead of 12months/12000miles I would go to 18months/18000miles & I think The majority of privately owned Ford's will not adhere to the service schedule as well. At this point I must tell you I have worked in the Motor Trade in the aftersales department of main dealers all of my adult life (not Ford) but a premium brand, getting a customer in for regular servicing is a mammoth task, so back to Ford, they will know this & that's were the issues will be, a lot of Ford owners are going to be sorely disappointed, the guy's at a Ford dealership are going to have a seriously rough time with this announcement 😮
@jimb7406
3 ай бұрын
Why would anyone expect Ford to offer a goodwill payment if the car in question hasn't been maintained as per the Ford service schedule? Yes, some people may have had big bills and I feel sorry for them as basically the engine design is flawed, but making up your own service intervals and expecting any support is not realistic. Ford giving the +-3 months service window, including non-Ford independent garages and not having to show lubricant details is quite generous really.
@Fourthgrace
3 ай бұрын
@@jimb7406 Ford contradicts itself: It has issued 2 yrs/ 18 months as the engine service interval as well as 1yr/ 12500 miles
@James19-88
9 күн бұрын
I have just come across your video my van just turned 6 years old and the belt went 2 days ago nightmare
@carukchannel
9 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear
@bobmartin5101
3 ай бұрын
What about the 1.2 Purecrap engine?
@sbrader97
3 ай бұрын
They already have a recall but only for cars between 2013-2017
@bobmartin5101
3 ай бұрын
This sort of engine is in corsa now as well isnt it?
@sbrader97
3 ай бұрын
@@bobmartin5101 Yeah the new shape corsa uses it the old shape astra and corsas used gm 1.2 engine the astra k had a 1.2 turbo but it was still a gm engine not the wetbelt pureshit
@jaycoleman9108
3 ай бұрын
The new shape astra also uses wet belt , and from what I hear is also having problems. A pal of mine has just bought one , a year old . Had his regular mechanic take a look over the car post purchase who told him that they have been doing on average 2 engines per week Wet belt of any brand is a no no
@lindsayclubb
3 ай бұрын
V good video - crystal clear. Hope the goodwill will in practice apply to those (me included) with a post 2019 engine if need be. Whatever ... thank you!
@itk2493
3 ай бұрын
There are people buying these ecoboost engines second hand that have no idea how often the previous owners 1)Changed the oil and 2) What oil did they use, was it 5-20 castrol magnetic? After a short period of time the belts go and these buyers are left with a £6-8K bill after owning the car (on credit) less than 6 months and they can't afford the repair. I think the least Ford can do is give everyone a free wet belt change.
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