wells here is the bottom line ( in my opinion) ALL !!!!! manufacturers are suffering terribly in the reliability department. and at these current prices. SHAME ON ALL OF THEM
@atg1338
3 ай бұрын
😭😭😭😭
@Fly-aaron92
3 ай бұрын
They're not "suffering" they're making them to fall apart on purpose. Planned obsolescence it's horrible. Especially like you said when the prices are this high. Either make cheap crap vehicles and get pushed out of the market, or make good reliable quality vehicles that you can charge a premium for and ppl will willingly pay for that reliability. That's the whole reason Toyota ever got a foot hold in the US to begin with. 🤦
@TheAudi585
3 ай бұрын
@@Fly-aaron92 as that is true if you look at stellantis for the ram factories, the manufactures are suffering, what’s the CEO is doing to them is terrible, I own a 2018 ram but at that time they were better now they are literally coming off the lines with problems before even being shipped to dealerships… the UAW workers are even suffering still, if you look up with the CEOs done to those as well it’s just terrible while he made a $38-$39 million profit less than a year while under paying the workers having the factories be gross and not giving a shit about products when it leaves the line while residing at the factory still.
@thesandman775
3 ай бұрын
He's not wrong
@mikexyz7461
3 ай бұрын
The problem is the EPA drove them to make unreliable trucks and the manufacturers bowed down to it instead of fighting to the supreme court. Why would they though, by submitting to the EPA overreach, the manufacturers get to make and sell more vehicles because they have short lifespans.
@cooverbennett4383
3 ай бұрын
1 thing i actually totally agree with GM on. If you're towing more than 8500lbs get a bigger truck.
@RJKYEG
3 ай бұрын
I used to tow heavy crap all the time at work with 1 tons, then years later at a different job I pulled a trailer with a Ram 1500 (with the Hemi), and I was like, "This sucks."
@thesoldiermedic
3 ай бұрын
I agree. No way I’d max it out on these trucks. I’d consider it for short distances but no way I’d go any major distance pulling 10k with any of those
@2ss2001
3 ай бұрын
They can handle up to 13,200 idk where tf these guys got that GMC without any towing features
@Ringmacher
3 ай бұрын
See, I’m right on that edge. Towing a 7500 lbs camper with heavy tongue weight that takes away from GVWR.
@tralfazsteamboat5695
3 ай бұрын
@@Ringmacherexactly. Drivers think because the manufacturer claims a certain tow rating, they can pull that max weight. They don’t take into account how much payload they have with said weight. Payload ratings are based on dry weight. Fuel alone adds 150-220 depending on tank size.
@jamesallen7205
3 ай бұрын
Wheres the tundra?....blowing engines somewhere 😂
@TravisTheSavage
3 ай бұрын
That new toyota is horrible. They need to go back to the 5.7
@doug6191
3 ай бұрын
As if all of them aren't self-destructing. 🙄
@Voodoo-cz5hk
3 ай бұрын
@@doug6191truth…the issue is on 2022-2023 Toyota…not 2024 Tundras
@justinstiff5641
3 ай бұрын
Ha!
@plmn93
3 ай бұрын
@@Voodoo-cz5hk Plenty of reports of it happening on the '24s. Toyota appears to be doing the minimum required by law right now because they don't know how to fix it.
@Cruzer136
3 ай бұрын
We need another review in 10 years to see how all the trucks have held up
@OverKill440
3 ай бұрын
no rust on the ford ;)
@ramrider1453
3 ай бұрын
@@OverKill440Well there differentials will 😂
@mikexyz7461
3 ай бұрын
All will be in junkyards in 6 years. They are only designed to last the 5 years of an initial lease period
@jimbov23
3 ай бұрын
There's a new RAM that was just delivered to my local dealer that has the bed liner de-laminating already after sitting in the sun for a few days. Probably a one off issue but jeez the truck is $83k...come on
@1FiftyOverland
3 ай бұрын
@mikexyz7461 really? How come my 2015 2.7l ecobeast f150 with 156,000 miles is still going strong?
@dancover3249
3 ай бұрын
$85K MSRP That kind of money Won't work for me
@lecourtierduquartier3147
3 ай бұрын
They are 120k up here in Montreal 😂
@DobyDuke
3 ай бұрын
Buy an older model and rebuild it
@MrTonaluv
3 ай бұрын
Did they mention the price? I must have missed it. When was that?
@tylerbuck9347
Ай бұрын
@@DobyDuke sounds like a plan to me
@justsomeguy697
Ай бұрын
85k would be for a highest trim lvl all the options truck. They start at right under 40k. Most sold version is around 54k. I sell trucks for a living. Also no one pays sticker in past few years. 23s are over 10k off. The 24s are 5 to 7k off.
@tactical_potato81
3 ай бұрын
I've got to say that out of all the truck videos you guys produce I think the two of you make some of the best content. Solid video guys
@Youngmechanical
2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Keep Roman in the office.
@dentman67
3 ай бұрын
All great trucks. It's a shame that nearly no one can afford them. Let's see, retire comfortably, or buy a new truck.
@atg1338
3 ай бұрын
So buying a truck is gonna stop you from retiring in comfort? Sounds like you didn't have a good plan🤣🤣
@cooverbennett4383
3 ай бұрын
@@atg1338 at least he has a plan. Unlike most today complaining about not affording a house, student loan debt and "Living Wage" Some of the nicest vehicles I've seen belong to broke A$$ fools
@TheCapn23
3 ай бұрын
Uh, people can afford them because they're selling. YOU can't afford them.
@DobyDuke
3 ай бұрын
@@TheCapn23people are also not making payments, 2023s still on the lot and 0% interest deals in near future! Watch!
@bbouch5771
3 ай бұрын
@@TheCapn23You mean the bank can afford them
@wilmarbarrick3194
3 ай бұрын
11:41 The sucking noise is the sound of your money leaving your wallet.
@RickFerris70
3 ай бұрын
That’s hilarious!! 🤣
@thegonz7833
3 ай бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@carlosalba7790
3 ай бұрын
Read this as he said it 😆
@nordlandak6853
3 ай бұрын
I have a 23 Ram , but I’ll buy trucks with dipsticks. Making an engine without one is as dumb as an off-road truck without tow hooks.
@richardalexander1838
3 ай бұрын
So new synthetic oils last 7k-9k, so just continue to change your oil every 5k and you'll be ok. You guys with these dipsticks, lolol
@GusFromDaysPast
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, checking fluids in your vehicle is silly. Best to leave it to the dealerships who never lie to customers.
@karlschauff7989
3 ай бұрын
@@richardalexander1838 They removed it for a reason. They want to hide oil consumption behind a digital display. And going 7k+ miles between oil changes causes many of the reliability and oil consumption issues today. The oil might have life left, but it's loaded with the diesel like soot that GDI engines generate and that additives do little to negate.
@eblamo
3 ай бұрын
@@GusFromDaysPastAny issue with oil in the engine is covered under warranty. Why else would they not have a dipstick
@kelviskelvis7140
3 ай бұрын
@@richardalexander1838 "You guys with these dipsticks" lol too - RAM REV and be done with it.
@plmn93
3 ай бұрын
Here's the thing. When I bought my truck, I drove them all and decided on a Ram. But when I went to actually buy, Ford was dealing and Ram was not. So I ended up with an F-150 and have not regretted it. The bottom line is that all these trucks are great vehicles so I would prioritize price and the quality of your local servicing dealer above just about anything else.
@omardevonlittle3817
3 ай бұрын
Bingo. While under warranty there's no discernable difference. After that point I'd trust the Coyote and the 5.7 Hemi most.
@Cloud30000
3 ай бұрын
@@omardevonlittle3817Any naturally aspirated is a more known factor; the 5.7 in the Tundra was great too. That being said, we don’t know how reliable the new Hurricane or updated EcoBoost engines will be in 10+ years; history shows that turbos are more likely to have issues, but those turbos have also been improved to increase reliability, and only time will tell the real story.
@inkwellunderground3746
3 ай бұрын
Great way to look at things. Very practical. Hopefully you don't pull up next to a Ram and have buyers regret over a few thousand dollars.
@plmn93
3 ай бұрын
@@Cloud30000 According to anecdotal evidence on the forums over the past 10 years, the 2.7 appears to be Ford's most reliable F-150 engine. I love mine. If your towing needs are modest I highly recommend it. And to be clear, it tows up to its rated limit better than the 5.0 and nearly as well as the 3.5. It just maxes out sooner than they do. The 5.0 has had some pretty serious issues. Not sure if they worked those out yet, but now they added cylinder deactivation, which is probably going to offset any improvements. But as Toyota has shown us, no modern truck is a sure thing when it comes to reliability. May as well just buy why you like and not worry about what you can't control.
@jimsteinway695
3 ай бұрын
Same here. Got a f-150 tremor. 2022. So excited still. The only thing that keeps me from driving it is my 911
@JuanBen0220
3 ай бұрын
My thing is Nathan keeps talking about seats but it’s a lariat versus top trim gmc and ram should’ve got a kr or platinum if you wanted to compare comfort
@JuanSanchez-qh6rl
23 күн бұрын
Was looking for this exact comment 😅
@johnp2931
3 ай бұрын
Andre and Nathan are an unbeatable duo! Anytime they're in a video, you know it's going to be entertaining and informative!
@roco22731
3 ай бұрын
What about Roman and him talking out of his ass with all his opinionated gibberish? Hahaha!
@hawkman302
3 ай бұрын
In my personal opinion, I would rather buy an old truck and rebuild it. I am a simple person and hate touch screens, cameras, and all the junk that jacks up the prices that I would have to pay to repair in the future. If the companies came out with a basic work truck that had the power, powered windows, basic radio/cd player with knobs and buttons, ac/heat, no engine cut off, simple tailgate, I would be game. Get reliable items that last vs tech that is not needed.
@markhavelka4924
3 ай бұрын
You, sir need a 2017 F150 XL, because you just described my 90-year-old dad’s truck.
@hawkman302
3 ай бұрын
@@markhavelka4924 I will take a square body Chevy. Fords don’t have great engines. Or 1995 2500 Silverado
@marcpomaville9429
3 ай бұрын
Ram made the ram classic which was kinda that idea. Idk if they still do
@hawkman302
3 ай бұрын
@@marcpomaville9429 I have never heard of that.
@davidporter7051
3 ай бұрын
your statement is moronic. Prices haven't changed.
@bobdennis4801
3 ай бұрын
The biggest thing to me is you can get the PowerBoost in lower trim levels. The HO Hurricane is Limited and above. The 6.2 has gotten better availability but not quite as easily available as the PowerBoost.
@waynerhodes5456
3 ай бұрын
I miss my dads 95 Ford Ranger 4.0. Couldn't kill it. We tried but she just smiled and kept running. 😂
@mbukukanyau
3 ай бұрын
It was not professional grade
@chucklaux8197
3 ай бұрын
All good. But Im bothered by the lack of oil dipstick in the Ram. Sorry but I dont trust a computer to tell me how my oil is doing. I prefer to see and touch the oil. Old school if you will
@timothykeith1367
3 ай бұрын
There will probably be an aftermarket dipstick
@BC08
3 ай бұрын
The Hurricane is based on the Alfa Romeo Giorgio 4-cylinder. It’s a true Fiat engine. The Hurricane will prove to be junk long term. Mark my words
@HemiJB91
3 ай бұрын
@@BC08hemi will be back in 5 years.
@BC08
3 ай бұрын
@@HemiJB91 Seriously doubt it. The production line tooling is going away - to bring it back and meet new regulation would cost a (a few) hundred million at this point.
@HemiJB91
3 ай бұрын
@@BC08 come back to this comment in 5 years. 🤡
@phillysdetailinggarage
3 ай бұрын
Yes they all are having major reliability issues however, I still prefer a good old V8. No need to replace expensive turbos and, the V8 just sounds better.
@JarmelSingsKaraoke
3 ай бұрын
🔥Thanks Andre, Nathan and the TFL Camera Ninja... ☕☕ Happy Thursday
@raywong5454
3 ай бұрын
Took my RAM in for service yesterday at the local CDJR dealership. Noticed the challenger Hell cat on the show room. 89,000 plus a 9,995.00 mark up sticker. Had a sold sign on the front windshield.. Someone desperate for that challenger.. Hope that they negotiated for at least. MSRP!!!
@JJJ5.7
3 ай бұрын
Who cares about 0 to 60. More important - Reliability. Durability. Towing capacity. Driving comfort.
@kevinclayton2246
2 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@stephanietyler6019
Ай бұрын
Agree
@MrFordguy73
3 ай бұрын
I agree, each one of these trucks are great, however if you are a RV or homeowner who lives in a power outage area, such as hurricane-prone, the powerboost being able to power your house, rv, job site, tailgating, is priceless no matter how you look at it. Being able to brew coffee or use a microwave while you're driving down the road call my wife using hair dryer, is it game changer. Not having to wait at the charging site for an hour to recharge is great. Everyone have a happy Father's Day.
@Groot564
3 ай бұрын
My father worked for ford for 42 years! He just passed away and he was dissatisfied with fords quality. He still has his 82 F150 no rust and has the 351 Win. I drive it 3 or 4 times a month. They had grease fittings always keep up with.
@k.walters6268
3 ай бұрын
I purchased a new 1980 F150 Lariat for a little over $8K, a significant price jump from the '75 model I bought new for $4K. The '75 was a base model with a V8, standard transmission, and no AC, while the '80 had a V8, automatic transmission, and AC; both had power steering, power brakes, but lacked power windows or locks, and were 2WD, long bed. In snow country, Fords suffered from rust issues, with salt on the roads corroding the body, chassis, and underparts. The '80 had better quality than the '75, but Ford's overall quality wasn't the best. Now, I own a 1971 F100, which was well-made for its time and remains clean and rust-free, having spent its life in the south. Ford's rust problems were notorious in the late '80s and '90s. Perhaps this was a source of dissatisfaction for your father, along with the introduction of more plastic components, problematic engines like the 5.4 3V in my 2005 model, and uncomfortable seats. However, the newer models seem to be improving in quality. Given their cost, one would hope for continued enhancements in Ford's quality. It's curious whether the trucks they manufacture today will last 50 years like their predecessors.
@Mach141
3 ай бұрын
As long as repair parts are available it can last 100 years
@karlp.1096
Ай бұрын
I am sorry that your father passed away! I had an 82 and 95 F150 with the straight six and manual transmissions. They just ran and never needed anything except the regular oil changes and routine maintenance. I wish that I still had them. I drove the 95 for over 20 years and that inline six was still as smooth running as new. I agree with you dad about quality issues at Ford! I have always driven Fords and love the American story of the company. For the first time in my life I own a vehicle that isn't a Ford. I was tired of the vehicle recalls, the wait for parts to repair the recall, and the recalls to fix the previously fixed recall. I also didn't care for Ford going woke and promoting lifestyles that are not natural. I wrote a letter to Ford and told them to concentrate on making a vehicle that doesn't need to be recalled and stop the wokeness! I never heard from them and I currently don't drive a Ford either!
@stuntdouble5933
2 ай бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you for finally testing out the cruise and Lane assist capabilities of these vehicles and comparing them to each other. I'm waiting for somebody to do it on all vehicles.
@marcolcorreia
3 ай бұрын
Sorry but I stopped watching when you said top end cost wise trucks. Not interested in spending $80k on a truck.
@davidporter7051
3 ай бұрын
you realize this is a channel which does mostly new pickup reviews? You should only watch Dave Ramsey so he can preach you are a poor worthless peasant and you should live like one.
@brentworls8509
3 ай бұрын
Interested Hurricane engine in the Ram, but since I have owned my F150 2.7, I've been converted to a Ford guy. I love the standard features on the Fords. 36 Gallon tanks should be the norm.
@BC08
3 ай бұрын
The Hurricane is based on the Alfa Romeo Giorgio 4-cylinder. It’s a true Fiat engine. The Hurricane will prove to be junk. Mark my words
@ericj810
3 ай бұрын
The hurricane ho. Gonna drink the gas. And if you tow with it, its gonna guzzle the gas. Tow over 7k don't go 1/2 ton start at 3/4 ton and diesel engine. The chevy 1500 3.0 diesel is a great truck but heavy loads I go 3/4 duramax at 975lbs of torque.
@brentworls8509
3 ай бұрын
@@ericj810 Ain't nobody buyin the HO. The base one is the what's going to get used, and no need to buy a HD truck if you don't tow all the time. The standard 3.0 will be fine. Buncha guys lying to their wives and stealing from their kids' futures to buy 3/4 and 1-ton trucks for weekend playing.
@Steve-yr5vi
12 күн бұрын
I agree with you there, I love my F150, and that 36 gallon tank is nice. I have the 3.5 EB with 68k on it, now I average about 22 mpg per tank in mixed driving.
@mvcharisma
3 ай бұрын
Any of these will be better than having a tundra with a blown engine 😂
@rameylewis7730
3 ай бұрын
or a landcruiser LC200 with a fubar transmission. Toyota sucks!!
@BC08
3 ай бұрын
The GM will likely smoke lifters then main bearings before 100K
@Chijo15
3 ай бұрын
@@rameylewis7730I take my chance with Toyota I always own Chevy gmc and ford and al of them have problems with engine transmission at early age
@OtisFlint
3 ай бұрын
@@BC08 My buddys lifters collapsed at 8k miles, had to wait a month for an engine.
@BC08
3 ай бұрын
@@OtisFlint Very, very common
@gongshow20
3 ай бұрын
@29:37; camera truck didn't show being left of center for the lane
@RAD_DAD_86
3 ай бұрын
I’m keeping my ‘22 RAM Hemi for a long time, but if I had to buy a new truck I’d honestly go for an F150 with the 5.0 V8.
@gcovete1642
3 ай бұрын
I run my old 2019 hemi on the Ram 1500 running fine towing and having low maintenance cost, does the towing I need and the reliability is there. There might be more good trucks out there but I will stay with my old school engine, low cost and this is all about, it is not 0-_60 or sometimes else is what you need to pat to keep it on the road.
@vonJaerschky
3 ай бұрын
What's funny is the payload of my 1989 Jeep Comanche is 1,478lbs.
@MrRockyko
8 күн бұрын
I had a 1990 jeep Comanche I miss that truck
@rhekman
3 ай бұрын
Oof, my 95 Ranger has a 1600lb payload capacity. Not to mention a bed I can actually reach into from the sides.
@TheBeatenPaths
3 ай бұрын
I miss my '07 Ranger badly.
@caryw0210
3 ай бұрын
That era of Ford Ranger was so good. I miss my 2000.
@gpaje
3 ай бұрын
It also didn't have all the safety equipments, all the leather, all the gizmos and things that weigh down modern vehicles. You want big payload, get a 2500 or larger.
@conejoshiker3165
2 ай бұрын
Nathan: “when you went hard, I didn’t feel any lag”. 11:31 mark 😂😂
@RonnN-gf8tm
3 ай бұрын
I want one of each..they all look awesome... really like the New 24' Ford 150
@doug6191
3 ай бұрын
24 feet is a long truck
@plmn93
3 ай бұрын
You can or can't go wrong with any of them. Meaning they are all awesome trucks, but they all can have serious issues as well.
@adamdavis1737
3 ай бұрын
@@plmn93That's the unfortunate truth. On paper and probably for the majority of people driving these trucks they're built pretty well, they'll probably be reliable, and they'll probably last a long while But a bad dice roll for any given one of them brand new off the lot can be an unexpected nightmare. The thing about research online is that you're going to see way more horror stories compared to people who are satisfied with the vehicle. Because you're far more likely to be vocal if something's going wrong. Not that you shouldn't be vocal with something's going wrong, but I would wager it is still ultimately the minority
@jpdi
3 ай бұрын
I hope GM keeps the diesels and v8s. No one wants stupid unreliable hybrids and small turbo 6 engines
@richardtellez00tellez77
2 ай бұрын
America would say differently
@richardtellez00tellez77
2 ай бұрын
#1 truck sold
@jpdi
2 ай бұрын
@@richardtellez00tellez77 #1 truck sold would be GM. Chevy and gmc sell more than ford do. Ford has been in decline for last 5 years since they moved to these smaller engines and electric. GMC and Chevy use same engines, same drivetrains, same parts, just different interiors, but made by same company. So America seems to be buying v8s and diesels more than stupid unrealible turbo 6 and electric trucks
@jpdi
2 ай бұрын
@@richardtellez00tellez77 that schooling is free. You are welcome
@jpdi
2 ай бұрын
@@richardtellez00tellez77 830k GM trucks sold 2023 vs 750k ford trucks and the gap is growing.
@ryanolson8295
3 ай бұрын
I'd like to see a video on issues, reliability, negatives etc. I have a 2023 6.2 and am seeing premature engine wear, its hard on fuel, has poor range, and uses premium.
@randykuta5146
3 ай бұрын
They are as honest as they can be, but if they want to keep getting test vehicles from the manufacturers, they need to say something positive. They were less than glowing about a Subaru and now Subaru won’t talk to them….
@ryanolson8295
3 ай бұрын
@@randykuta5146 sad but true
@willoster8083
3 ай бұрын
The best truck award should be determined with the truck up in the air, looking at the under body and quality of the build. Not what features they have that will break in two years.
@spec1923
3 ай бұрын
And 150,000 real world miles with service records to get longevity data, not just warranty period. Show who has the least planned obsolescence built in.
@GusFromDaysPast
3 ай бұрын
One of the best vehicles to buy for options is a Range Rover. The worst vehicle to buy based on reliability is a 1 year old Range Rover.😂
@davidporter7051
3 ай бұрын
you shouldn't reproduce because your post makes absolutely no sense
@davidporter7051
3 ай бұрын
@@spec1923another moronic post. 150K miles about the designated lifetime.
@spec1923
3 ай бұрын
@@davidporter7051 you can accept but I do not have to. I have always put around 200,000 with minor repairs.
@alannoel489
3 ай бұрын
Towing at 11k lbs for the ram with a payload of 1100 lbs is wild. You can't even drive the truck if your tongue weight is at the recommended 10%.
@dirtbagliberalsnake5729
3 ай бұрын
If you towing anywhere near 11k pounds get a HD
@TMJ32
3 ай бұрын
If you're towing anything over 8,500lbs you shouldn't have a half ton in the first place
@hellkitty1014
3 ай бұрын
But towing 11750 with 1200 on an F150 is ok?
@dirtbagliberalsnake5729
3 ай бұрын
@@hellkitty1014 maybe for a year or two then it all falls apart
@timothykeith1367
3 ай бұрын
GM, Ford and Ram might be forced to cooperate
@Bradimus1
3 ай бұрын
If you have to ask it to change lanes...the steering wheel is already right there. What is the point?
@hwirtwirt4500
3 ай бұрын
It's a demo.
@Falcon-mc5fs
3 ай бұрын
If there's a coyote, that's the truck I'm picking
@BC08
3 ай бұрын
At near sea level, the 5.0 F150 is best overall half-ton going.
@roco22731
3 ай бұрын
@@BC08Absolutely!
@LakeNipissing
2 ай бұрын
@@BC08 Have a 2017 F-150 XLT 2WD Supercab 5.0 V8 , 6 Spd with 220,000 miles. Oil changes, brakes and tires. Nothing replaced under the hood. VERY reliable, durable and surprisingly fast truck. 4,150 LBS. No trouble to leave a BMW M series in the dust. Only complaint about the truck, is it is very basic and plain interior, but it was only 33,600 $ off the lot new. Oh, and the entire wiper system is junk (arms, transmission).
@MA-jd4ui
Ай бұрын
On the Dodge Ram, when it showed from your camera truck. It did not look like it was more to the left. It looked like it was in the center of the road
@EdNichols-qj4xk
Ай бұрын
One of the categories they should have had for comparison is price. That’s very important.
@thesandman775
3 ай бұрын
I love how the RAM has 10k+ towing capacity with an 1100 pound payload. Talk about nothing but marketing non sense on that towing number 😂. And it also sounds like a Hyundai when it revs
@smc1377
3 ай бұрын
Sir, my V8 Hyundai sounds WAY better than that when it revs.
@Whatisthis195
3 ай бұрын
Ford messed up by not putting the 7.2kw as standard. It’s small at a $400 option, but so many dealers skip it🙄
@Cloud30000
3 ай бұрын
I always custom order my trucks; the dealers always add BS to the lot trucks to increase the profit\asking price and I end up paying less by ordering exactly what I want, even if they are offering a slightly bigger discount on a lot vehicle. In this case, having the 7.2kw as an option makes more sense then increasing the whole line by $400 and making it standard.
@Cloud30000
3 ай бұрын
That being said, any dealer that skips the 7.2kw option is an idiot.
@Whatisthis195
3 ай бұрын
@@Cloud30000 yuuup. & bedliners! For whatever reason, fords around me never have them. Every GM dealer has their trucks bed lined. I don’t get it lol.
@joshreynolds729
3 ай бұрын
You can always order your truck the way you want . Ford is cheap that’s why they don’t add stuff as a mandated thing that hikes the price as some may not want it but most will then you pay which makes prices competitive but really it’s bull. it’s up to the dealer to option out or add stuff then charge what they want for lot trucks upon allocation. This is why it makes sense to make your own orders as the other gentleman suggested above.
@KeystoneTexan
3 ай бұрын
Ford is cheap!!!!😂 cheap made and then nickel and dime you to death for every little option you want.
@Uncle_Fester24
3 ай бұрын
I live in Michigan in the rust belt I will drive an alumiduty till the cows come home. Some kind of fluid film on the frame and some components and my truck from the bottom up looks brand new. Trucks are too much money to have them rust away.
@johntuminello5206
2 ай бұрын
When repairs are need GM hands down cheaper to fix.period. From a mechanics view.
@JimmyMakingitwork
3 ай бұрын
Waiting to see $70,000 1/2 ton trucks with no recalls or class action lawsuits on them.
@Steve-yr5vi
11 күн бұрын
You might be surprised to learn there are law firms that exist solely to file lawsuits against the big three. Why? Because they have a lot of money and when you complain about why cars and trucks cost so much, much like healthcare, the steady stream of frivolous lawsuits add to the cost.
@stevennathaniel4191
3 ай бұрын
I'm old fashioned I want my truck to sound like a truck
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit
3 ай бұрын
Just get a Chevy or ford V8 delete the 4 cylinder mode and put a Boris exhaust on it then
@EMdoc12
3 ай бұрын
Great video as always. I’ll wait for you guys to test the upcoming RamCharger though. That’s the one I’m interested in.
@Stardantheman
3 ай бұрын
The 3.0 LZO for the Sierra is worth considering for MPG
@murrkem8239
3 ай бұрын
The cost of ownership for the LZO option, diesel fuel, maintenance, and def quickly negate the MPG. Not even including the cost to replace the belt driven oil pump at the 100k recommended interval.
@ALMX5DP
3 ай бұрын
@@murrkem8239the oil pump belt service interval is 200k fyi.
@paulbenderavich3833
3 ай бұрын
@@murrkem8239belt replacement is now at 150k miles
@fhpchris
3 ай бұрын
@@murrkem8239 the belt driven oil pump is 200k interval. GM did say that 100k would probably include a fuel pump replacement though and that is also on the back of the engine. The LZ0 is pretty much universally agreed to be awesome though. I could understand getting the 6.2 if you wanted to buy an aftermarket supercharger or something down the line but the ECU isn't even tunable yet afik.
@grimmjob8090
3 ай бұрын
@@murrkem8239Where I live diesel is only 40 cents more than 87, and the def consumption is next to nothing unless you’re towing a lot, and it’s cheap when you do get it. I only need to fill it every 5k miles or so. My drive to work is mostly highway and I get around 24 mpg in an at4. Would recommend the LZO to people considering a gm
@shanecox203
17 күн бұрын
I wish they would just bring back basic trucks where you could do most work without having to remove the cab
@blairabbott3329
3 ай бұрын
Can't afford all that crap
@tsu.cameron
3 ай бұрын
make more money
@cwqrpportable
3 ай бұрын
Why are you here? Get to work!
@tsu.cameron
3 ай бұрын
@@cwqrpportable haha im at work right now good point
@cwqrpportable
3 ай бұрын
@@tsu.cameron You have a good day. Prices have gotten crazy for everything.
@tsu.cameron
3 ай бұрын
@@cwqrpportable thanks
@craigstark2712
3 ай бұрын
Ford and GM offers their more powerful powertrains in cheaper trims than Ram offers their HO Hurricane in. Something to consider.
@brianbarclay4316
3 ай бұрын
Why would you have not chosen a higher trim for the Ford? Also a big win to the Ford for being aluminum, that is much appreciated by those of us who live in northern states!
@BC08
3 ай бұрын
Good for sheet metal, but the Ford still has a steel frame, rear axle and some suspension components
@brianbarclay4316
3 ай бұрын
@@BC08 yeah and all that takes is spray some fluid film on the frame once a year. I have never had a problem with a frame getting anymore than surface rust.
@nastynate4
3 ай бұрын
Sounds like an angry Cuisinart lol
@cjsaint09
3 ай бұрын
I have one and unfortunately it does lol
@MrHand-ih4sz
3 ай бұрын
I'm officially out of the fullsize market. Just crazy money. Got a new ZR2 Colorado. Was it expensive? Yea...but it wasn't 90 grand. Love the truck so far...no regrets.
@Sir_Mack
3 ай бұрын
Wow that's great! You just grossly overpaid for a midsized truck. Congratulations! I get it, full size truck are over priced, just like most vehicles at this point. But, if there's one group of vehicles that are ridiculously overpriced for what they are it's mid size trucks! Great job my guy! You just paid 63k for a mid size truck lmao😅!!!! You could have has a full size well equipped elevation or something for the same price! You paid 63k for a dinky truck hahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahaha
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit
3 ай бұрын
Should’ve got A Maverick imo Only reasonably priced truck rn
@MrHand-ih4sz
3 ай бұрын
@Sir_Mack 52K. Like I said...expensive. But the same features in a FS would go close to 90K. Handles better...easier to get around town...fun to drive. I'm pretty happy. If you don't have the money, keep driving your Prius, lad. Maybe you should be watching videos about old shitboxes, and not new trucks.
@MrHand-ih4sz
3 ай бұрын
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit A MAVERICK!! 😄 🤣
@Sir_Mack
3 ай бұрын
@MrHand-ih4sz you have no clue what I drive and you wouldn't believe me if I told you anyway so. Enjoy your 60k overpriced dinky truck bud
@Ringmacher
3 ай бұрын
Great review! I’ve got a 2017 F150 Lariat. Started looking for my next truck. I’m not happy with what I’m seeing. Great styling, features, but truck capacity keeps going down. Mine as 1863 lbs capacity. I’m seeing trucks with 300+ lbs LESS capacity. I really don’t want to move up to 3/4 ton HD truck. BUT, take a truck for towing a 26-30’ camper, 2 adults, 2 kids, really NOTHING in the bed and you can be at or over the GVWR of the truck, quickly. I’m running consistently 400-500lbs over GVWR because of the heavy tongue weight of my camper. (Another industry issue for another day) I’ve upgraded my suspension, added a class V hitch. I went from a 2013 to a 2017 because capacity was going up. All these features are driving the capacity down.
@roco22731
3 ай бұрын
I bought a 2017 F150 xlt supercab a year ago as I was planning on getting a new truck but didn’t like what I saw at the prices they were at! I absolutely love this truck with the 5.0 as it’s such a pleasure to drive! It has everything that I was looking for in a truck and nothing that I didn’t want! It also has a payload rating of 1958 lbs.
@Steve-yr5vi
11 күн бұрын
The Ford F250 with the 6.8 would be a great option for you. Look the Superduty line can handle ALOT more abuse than the 1/2 tons, they aren't as quick, they don't ride isn't as nice, especially for someone constantly towing, they are a better option.
@maxshadow4003
2 ай бұрын
I wish you guys could do a 200k test. My guess is the GMC 6.2 would win, turbos fail.
@MariuszChr
3 ай бұрын
"good oldness" category would score GMC max points. Sound, displacement, good looking.
@T.I.R24
3 ай бұрын
25 years as a mechanic, and i can say gm is the most reliable. yes, they have their issues, but overall theyre cheeper to fix, and useally aren't that bad. I'll take a bad window regualtor over a crap trans or engine any day.
@mrsteve4313
3 ай бұрын
The grill of the GMC is ugly but the 6.2 sounds the best, sure wish Ram would've put their 6.4/392 in the 1500, the car motor at least in the luxury top of the line or express trim, one's not for work unlike the 2500.
@paulwilson1193
Ай бұрын
I couldn't disagree more on that new grill. I think it looks fantastic. To each their own 🎉.
@jcrews3
3 ай бұрын
Those 6.2’s don’t like to be brake torqued. You just have to come to a complete stop and then floor it. Still not bad though, but it can be a lot better by just flooring it
@tgrafrath
3 ай бұрын
I can't believe after all these videos they still brake torque them! Just floor it and it's way faster off the line
@danielsherrill7085
3 ай бұрын
So true. I see a bunch of the 6.2 powered trucks where I live and they are definitely way faster than what they got. Even my old 2012 Silverado is the same way. If you brake torque it, it's slow, but if you just punch it it's much quicker.
@ducktails1695
3 ай бұрын
It's still slow as shit...just goes to show that V8's aren't necessary today. You're basically paying for the sound which is stupid.
@jcrews3
3 ай бұрын
@@ducktails1695 5.4 seconds to 60 without brake torquing is slow then i guess so. If you don’t believe me. Check car and driver and also motor trend. I myself have a high country with this engine so i know from personal experience that it’s quicker than this. I’m sure you probably drive a civic si or something. lol
@ducktails1695
3 ай бұрын
@@jcrews3 Sure....I bet you really got 5.4 seconds lol. Good one!
@Springfield2016
3 ай бұрын
The new Ram engines have been a nightmare to service. It is body off to reach anything on the back of the engine. This is from a Ram technician. Lots of power, smooth, but when any major service is needed, expensive.
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit
3 ай бұрын
What is your opinion of the 3.6L V6?
@Springfield2016
3 ай бұрын
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit It is underpowered for a pickup, but is relatively reliable and easy to service. Keep up with regular maintenance and it will last a long time. My personal Ram has the 5.7 Hemi which is smooth and great for towing. I get about 18 mph on my 50 mile round trip commute. The 3.6 would do a little better mpg, but could not tow my toy hauler.
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit
3 ай бұрын
@@Springfield2016 I was looking at the 2025 Ram Charger is why I ask about the 3.6L
@BC08
3 ай бұрын
@@Springfield2016 Common follower failures, common timing chain issues. Pentastar is junk
@slabbusterrtr7690
3 ай бұрын
I hate working on a dodge never seen one easy to work on not a fan of dodge yeah there trucks are nice but when it's time to work on it nightmare
@M8Stealth
23 күн бұрын
GMC exhaust note, with the rotary knob set to sport, wins that category. Make V8s Great Again!
@michaelnelson3672
3 ай бұрын
How about a review on the QUALITY and RELIABILITY of GM-Ford-Ram...
@cwqrpportable
3 ай бұрын
Boring zzzzz
@Steve-yr5vi
11 күн бұрын
what about it? Do you own any of them? There are hundreds of thousands of owners of each that report never having issues - like myself. These owners, like myself take care of our vehicles, drive them with sense to get the most out of our investment. I would not have a concern about any of these trucks being able to get me through a blizzard, take me there and back again to some remote dirt road destination. I know if I do my part the trucks will do theirs. All of these three are very reliable vehicles anyone that says different either has a financial interest or is a fool.
@bassomatic72
3 ай бұрын
Well done, gents!! I know that its hard to put in a value for looks because it can be so subjective. However, IMO, the GM still trounces the other 2 in looks, as well as the sound. That's gotta be worth something...
@RoadHouseeee
3 ай бұрын
As someone who’s worked at a Chrysler dealer for 11 years… it’s not the Ram
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit
3 ай бұрын
Was the 3.6L V6 reliable atleast? I wouldn’t buy a hemi
@BC08
3 ай бұрын
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit The Pentastar 3.6 is a massive hunk of crap
@davidporter7051
3 ай бұрын
of course. Anyone with a pulse could say this
@xSUPERoMANx
3 ай бұрын
My 22 F150 STX with the 3.5turbo makes the sucking noise when you hit it hard. It's not that new and yes my truck is fast even without the powerboost. Best in class performance at doing truck things!
@cheliospanama9786
12 күн бұрын
Great Video! Thank you 🔥👏💪🫶
@MegaBlackley
3 ай бұрын
Does “enhanced” exhaust mean it pipes fake engine noise in though the speakers?
@alexnelson09
3 ай бұрын
Yes many fords have been doing this since around 2015 as far back as I am aware.
@MegaBlackley
3 ай бұрын
@@alexnelson09 wow, you know, I just wouldn't feel like a man if my pickup truck had to use its stereo to make vroom vroom noises lol
@alexnelson09
3 ай бұрын
@@MegaBlackley I think it started when then put the 4 cylinder turbo in the mustang. Then they just couldn’t stop
@joshreynolds729
3 ай бұрын
They started putting 4 cylinders in mustangs in 84 with the mustang SVO fox body. Don’t think they used the stereo then to amplify. Probably around 2015 because I don’t remember anything prior to that.
@mattstoller3970
3 ай бұрын
@@joshreynolds729 first 4cyl was in 74. First turbo 4 cyl was 79. I test drove the 79 back in the day. It was very used and very much a dog.
@robertsimpson5801
3 ай бұрын
For everything that is not truck related, the GMC is absolutely the gold standard! 😂😂😂😂😂
@toddbob55
3 ай бұрын
yea GM products are garbage
@ril850_1
3 ай бұрын
You guys are right about the Ram interior. We have a 19’ limited and the seats really comfortable. However it’s not aging well the dash is coming unglued and labels are peeling off. The leather on the steering wheel is faded and lost its color. The boot to shifter ripped immediately. The padding on the top of the instrument cluster is not flushed with other panels and I can see behind it. The grab handle covers never stay in place. Meanwhile my 2020 F150’s interior is holding up just fine. No issues with interior not the nicest but aging waaay better.
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit
3 ай бұрын
Does the f150 have any problems so far?
@ril850_1
3 ай бұрын
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit nope
@roco22731
3 ай бұрын
I have a 2017 XLT and the interior still looks like it’s brand new! 5.0 and it purrs like a kitten!
@charlesmarshall2697
2 ай бұрын
You obviously are full of crap! there is no boot in the Ram limited with the dial shifter!
@zackbagwell8097
2 ай бұрын
That was one major thing i noticed about my Ram nothing seemed to hold up well interior wise. The Ford will still look good after 100k miles, Ram not so much.
@popdee954
29 күн бұрын
Not breathing at the correct nostril 😂😂
@Cloud30000
3 ай бұрын
I wish I knew what made the seats on the Ram so much better, as I want to modify the seats in the Ford to be more comfortable. Going from a 2019 Ram to a 2022 Ford, the seats are one of the things I really miss.
@allanrheaume5549
3 ай бұрын
Funny thing about seats, they change so much over the years and not always for the better. After 12 trucks my hands down favorite seats were the captain seats in my 93 F-250. I later had a 2001 F-250 with captain seats and they were crap. After that had a 2006 Silverado 2500, those seats were quite comfortable. I now have a 2018 F-150 and the seats are so so. Something to be said of old big Buicks from the early 80's, they were always comfortable.
@plmn93
3 ай бұрын
Seats are very subjective. Fords have always been some of the best for me, but some of that is just how they tend to position the seats.
@willvanoene4758
3 ай бұрын
I have a 2018 F150 with leather and the seats in my 2004 Expedition are so much more comfortable
@LeGacyyy7
Ай бұрын
i got a 2013 ram 1500 310,000km on it and still running very good. definitely just going to buy an older used truck when my current ones time has come
@AllenStuck
3 ай бұрын
I love my f150 ❤
@TalkingHands308
3 ай бұрын
If you want acceleration from a truck, get a F-150 XL with 4 wheel drive and the 5.0L V8, then get the factory supercharger installed, lol. That combination is beating supercars on the drag strip...
@martinneumann9345
3 ай бұрын
But will the rear window seal fail on RAM and corrode the RF module, and take 2 months to get parts?
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit
3 ай бұрын
My customer had the rear window seal fail and mildew his entire interior from Rain
@erics9754
2 ай бұрын
TFL-The Ford Lovers' channel lol.
@Cloud30000
3 ай бұрын
IIRC, those rectangles on the GM exhaust are not connected to the exhaust, just the bumper. The actual exhaust “tips” are hidden behind them under the truck.
@tonyda2656
3 ай бұрын
Sorry - I am GMC all the way. Style. Comfort. Technology. Engine (sound). But I am PROUD that Detroit is representing in large pickups so well.
@kenbacon292
3 ай бұрын
I like that too, true at least for Ford and Chevy. Dodge of courses unfortunately not American anymore.
@thewireman134
3 ай бұрын
3 Ohhhhhh Duramax way to go!
@nezabytes
2 ай бұрын
That engine is so good. Just been in one!
@michaelcrouch4248
3 ай бұрын
I agree with previous comments. The question is which one is the most reliable over 10-15 years, especially for the cost of these trucks.
@Jophlo78
3 ай бұрын
With that kind of payload, the RAM was clearly designed for grocery shopping.
@brly4542
3 ай бұрын
Payload on all three is sad, my 2021 Ranger crew cab had more payload...
@fishonalbertaoutdoors9761
3 ай бұрын
That's all rams are don't you know?
@thomasward4505
3 ай бұрын
Everybody knows that the payload rating is for all types of situations, mostly the brakes, all of those trucks will take way more weight than that and be perfectly fine
@marcpomaville9429
3 ай бұрын
Ram knows that 90 percent of truck drivers never haul anything heavier than bags of dirt from home Depot
@ARETEcaninepurpose
2 ай бұрын
I don't know anyone buying a half ton trying to tow a ton, let alone knowing how to back them up. The half tons look great, able to show off at the golf course, and travel in comfort. If you are towing just go with a 3/4 or 1 ton. The half tons are just a man's SUV is all (marketing towards the man in the relationship)
@DKosu48
3 ай бұрын
One other idea, put 5 people in the cab, put a 900lbs payload in the bed, 9500lbs on a trailer and test the brakes., who fades who stops. Acceleration, real fuel mpg ECT.
@OhioStateBuckeyefanstuckinMI
3 ай бұрын
Give me the GMC all day
@billmalec
3 ай бұрын
Why?
@Mercipher21
3 ай бұрын
Aside from features, power, etc... I'm definitely more interested in build quality, longevity, and avg. repair cost post warranty, up to 100k miles.
@Wicked_RotF30
3 ай бұрын
I’m not sure why, but I got into a 2020/2021 Ram 1500 and it felt ergonomically small in the driver seat. I have much more room in my GMT800 Suburban. The Ram wasn’t as bad as the Tacoma, which my legs hurt thinking about it.
@Cobra3901
3 ай бұрын
I get to try new trucks out pretty frequently and the one thing I noticed is the Ford seats seem firm at first but after you spend 10-15 hours on a trip they are superior to the Chevy/GMC and Ram. It has been that way for 25-30 years.
@Michael-bu7ni
3 ай бұрын
Nice review but dunno if a Denali Ultimate is comparable to a Lariat
@nathanlewis3462
3 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter it the ram can "tow" 10,000 lbs, it cant handle the tongue weight that would require. Using the 10% rule, that would be 1,000 lbs hitch weight. So hope you dont need a driver in the truck or you're overweight. 😂
@plmn93
3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Most people are going to hit the payload limit before the tow limit. That's why Tundras and Tacomas were so worthless for so long, they had absolutely pathetic payloads. Oh, and the rule is 10-15%, so you were being generous.
@danielkampfhenkel7993
3 ай бұрын
Load distributing hitch. Allows for towing heavier trailer weights.
@nathanlewis3462
3 ай бұрын
@@danielkampfhenkel7993 weight distribution hitches DO NOT increase the payload or towing capability of a vehicle.
@danielkampfhenkel7993
3 ай бұрын
@@nathanlewis3462they do decrease felt tongue weight allowing you to be able to tow max trailer weight for that vehicle. GVWR is GVWR, you’re correct. I own a RAM and yes their payload sucks in comparison, but I still love it.
@alars2847
3 ай бұрын
Same thing for Ford. 11,000 tow capability. However, assuming 10% tongue weight, 1100 lbs from 1284 lbs= 184 lbs for a driver and nothing else. That means that if Andre or Nathan were to tow this Ford at max tow capacity, neither one could legally drive it!
@edkruzel
3 ай бұрын
Which is best comes down to reliability. What recalls are out in the first year? What percent of each brand had catastrophic failures in the first year? Looks are subjective, differences in 0-60 by seconds don't matter, towing differences of hundreds of pounds are minimal. We pay an outrageous, ridiculous, over-inflated price tag on vehicles that will beat my needs, not meet. Who purchases a vehicle without knowing if it will tow or haul to your needs? I want to know if I do the maintenance that my investment should run until the wheels fall off.
@johnnydangerously7186
3 ай бұрын
Question should be "Who builds the most affordable pickup truck"
@marcharris4176
3 ай бұрын
That video would be short. None of them
@michaelf3158
3 ай бұрын
Why does Andre always have to correct people and make them look stupid? He’s always gotta be right and has to one up people.
@jl4091
3 ай бұрын
I know a guy that does durability tests.
@MariuszChr
3 ай бұрын
Whistling Diesel?
@cantbsdave
3 ай бұрын
yeah give these trucks to Whistling Diesel haha
@jonhasdirtymaxagulari3062
3 ай бұрын
WD :)
@ryanarnold4790
13 күн бұрын
Always a good show guys
@qdog494
3 ай бұрын
To me the Fords lead the way with certain tech/features that swayed me. The pro power and scales are awesome.
@kristoferbrown8007
3 ай бұрын
Agreed. Ford leads in meaningful innovation, so they get my business. I don't remember the last time GM released a new capability that wowed me. Unless you are a V8 purest, I do not get the appeal.
@erics9754
2 ай бұрын
Ram for the win but you know TFL loves their Fords they always have and always will pick Ford I think Ford sponsors them so I guess I can understand that. What I do is pick the opposite of what these guys say and my 2016 Ram has never let me down but my best friend's Ford F-150 is always in the shop glad I did not believe these guys when they said Ford did you notice the shifty look in their eyes like when someone is lying lol. I bought the truck because these guys said Ford was better so I knew the Ram had to be better since it was their second pick always go with their second pick because that is the best truck. If you want tow capacity buy a real truck a 1 ton if you want a smooth-riding vehicle capable of towing the family boat with a beautiful interior and exterior buy a Ram. I am not biased and I have owned Ford's Lincolns Chevys Buicks Dodges Oldsmobile. GMC which made a great truck in 2009 -2014 in the Silverado GMC I mean that was my best truck beat the Ram and Ford for reliability no frills work truck was a beast.
@sts3427
3 ай бұрын
You guys do great videos, that being said your average Joe can't afford these. Sad
@Jeremy5speed
2 ай бұрын
I’m an average Joe and I have a 23 Lariat power boost, pretty much identically equipped and love it.
@cjsaint09
3 ай бұрын
I have a '21 Platinum Powerboost and had my fuel pump replaced a few months ago. The dealer gave me a '23 Lariat as a loaner with these same seats, and they were definitely stiff and not anywhere as comfortable as the seats in mine.
@HemiJB91
3 ай бұрын
No shit, you have a platinum. Platinum seats are different to the rest.
@cjsaint09
3 ай бұрын
@@HemiJB91 Yea no shit, that was exactly my point. I commented about the seats they said were uncomfortable in the Lariat and said I noticed the same. Thanks for letting me know that my seats are different 👍
@HemiJB91
3 ай бұрын
@@cjsaint09 welcome 🤡
@sportsmanbeast32
2 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same they should have compared a platinum to the others. I have a lariat myself and although I find it pretty comfy I’ve been inside a king ranch before and the seats were better. I think the Ford seats are up there with Rams if you compare the top trims. GM seats are super stiff
@GRAFHC
3 ай бұрын
Simple: GMC for looks (both exterior and interior). Ford for doing truck stuff. RAM for cruising. It all depends on what you want. Realistically, most truck owners (myself included) just use these things as daily drivers and rarely "need" their functionality. So it comes down to do you want the best looking, or the best driving?
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