As the owner of a 2019 Leaf plus, watching this with great interest.
@MarkSpohr
13 күн бұрын
V2X doesn't need to be as expensive as the current products. Good to see others trying to implement this promising technology.
@cyberoptic5757
13 күн бұрын
Nikki, we've got a granddaughter who will be driving next year, and that's where our 2014 leaf will get even more life. Perfect for local driving, low cost energy. Perfect for local driving only.
@CrissaKentavr
11 күн бұрын
I have several friends who got them recently because their prices got them into their price range. Never having to visit the gas station means for local travel, they're even more convenient!
@wekebu
13 күн бұрын
In May 2023, we purchased 2 Tesla batteries and had them installed for a total of $29,575 before tax rebate. That's 26 kw. Our installer did tell us Nissan would approve but it could be 1-2 years. My 2018 has a 40kw battery. We use the battery backup every night after the sun goes down.
@ArielBatista
13 күн бұрын
I am waiting for the price as we have a very good 2021 Leaf S Plus which my wife loves and will never be getting rid of.
@joelsmith4394
13 күн бұрын
We bought a 2015 Leaf new and put over 160k miles on it so far. We have since bought a longer legged, and more capable EV, but my son still uses the Leaf for his local commute. Careful battery management has helped us retain much of the original range, but that’s still barely adequate to get much of anywhere from our rural home. Sooner or later the Leaf will drop below that minimal usefulness. I am looking forward to products like this being available so that I can just plug it in to our already existing, hybrid PV+battery backup system and roughly double our battery capacity. That would satisfy my compulsion to get every bit of value out of the original purchase (and the resources that went into it) as I can.
@leebiggs2844
13 күн бұрын
Sounds like a good option for old leafs with Chademo, but there were a lot of early leafs without Chademo. The J-1772 only leafs would be best for the Darla the Great option.
@wekebu
13 күн бұрын
Price of the Fermata would be the deciding factor for me.
@DarronBirgenheier
13 күн бұрын
As important as VTH and VTG seem to be, for the future, if nothing else, you'd be helping to educate us about the many ways this will happen, if you choose to connect an old Leaf to your home...
@jamespaul2587
13 күн бұрын
Interesting topic Nikki, thank you for sharing. It would be interesting to see how this compares to V2G systems used in Japan for the LEAF. One advantage to using the LEAF is that it can be recharged at a local station, compared to a stationary battery that needs grid, solar, or wind power to recharge.
@lsh3rd
13 күн бұрын
This is a good answer to multi-day outages for sure.
@Russwig
13 күн бұрын
79... I'll think on it! Keep Evolving Nikki!!!
@Bmeri3
13 күн бұрын
Great video. Can you do a more in depth on this topic? Which vehicles support V2X today and future? Also I’ve seen info that future electric energy prices could fall dramatically. Would love to see a video on that topic, truth versus fiction.
@eTwisted
13 күн бұрын
Sadly the product is 3 phase only, which makes sense given 20kw rating which is basically a 100A service. She is the only person who could call a 100mi range car as being used for long distance. We joined a car share to avoid spending nearly 50% of a long drive charging and looking for working chademo chargers
@michaelbramel5771
13 күн бұрын
Intriguing...with my power company paying less for the excess power my solar panels produce than what I have to pay to get electricity from them, it makes sense for me to have battery storage to get me through the night. That is, it makes sense if you don't take into account the significant cost of setting up battery storage. I have been hoping that bidirectional charging with a V2X vehicle could be a relatively cheap solution (I'd be looking at staying grid-tied, but using the battery every night--not just emergency backup). . It the Fermata E-20 does come in around $11k, that and a used Leaf are probably not going to be a cost-effective solution for me. But I'll be keeping an eye out in this direction.
@johneric98
13 күн бұрын
Good information.
@Richardincancale
13 күн бұрын
Interesting - big you don’t really need 20kW for home backup in most of the world. The MG5 can give 2.5kW which is enough to keep in the lights and fridges, and run a microwave or kettle, for the cost of a custom cable at around 120€.
@theshamrocker
13 күн бұрын
@@Richardincancale USA doesn't have that capability
@Richardincancale
13 күн бұрын
@@theshamrocker Although U.S. doesn’t import MG there are other EVs with V2L at this sort of level like Hyundai Ioniq
@ryanpitts454
13 күн бұрын
What year of MG5 could do this? I’ve the 2021 version.
@Richardincancale
13 күн бұрын
@@ryanpitts454 I have the 2022 version, I think older ones can do V2L as well.
@AdrianMcDaid
12 күн бұрын
But this is not commected to your home to your mains. I believe with chademo it will be.
@BrunoBGarcia79
13 күн бұрын
i have been dreaming of this the last 10 years
@johnwfmak
13 күн бұрын
You should look at a cnet article October 2023, the FE-20 retail price is $11,500
@BenjaminNelsonX
13 күн бұрын
I’ve always thought of Electric Vehicles as just batteries on wheels and that V2H/V2L is just one more great use for them! I once ran my house from my DIY electric motorcycle during a blackout. More recently, I did some experiments drawing power out from my Mitsubishi iMiEV’s CHAdeMO port and converting it to AC with a solar inverter. The setup was actually VERY similar to what Ford came up with for their Vehicle to Home system. CHAdeMO V2H kzitem.info/door/PLmHss3DBZUinCtQhRuwHIYS8kVPXbvtyV 8:45 I just recently got a used Tesla which I fixed up and I’m going to install my own Vehicle to Load setup on it. Vehicle to Load (V2L) Bare Board Testing. #automobile #V2L #EV kzitem.info7NqxkenShvo?feature=share Im glad to see more options starting to come out for V2H/V2L for stock vehicles. I think it’s going to eventually become almost standard on EVs and will be one more reason for people to buy EV instead of ICE.
@teardowndan5364
13 күн бұрын
If you are going to re-wire your service panel to put in V2X capabilities, may as well split your service between essential and non-essential loads to reduce inverter size and automatically shed non-essential loads either by leaving them directly on mains or putting a contactor in-between to disconnect them from backup power when an outage last longer than a few minutes or the battery drops below a given threshold. Also, I wouldn't want to pay registration fees, insurance and lose a whole parking spot in my parking for a car that is only there for the battery.
@rossr6616
13 күн бұрын
you could put the car in non op status forever and pay zero reg fees, though you couldn't store it on the street(for very long). And why insure a parked $3k car?
@rp9674
13 күн бұрын
I'm not sure it's legal to have a non-op vehicle in the driveway where I live, also need both parking spots
@teardowndan5364
13 күн бұрын
@@rossr6616Does your home insurance include loss and civil damages coverage in case of BEV fire? Probably not, so you need car insurance to cover anything going wrong with the BEV even if it is on cinder blocks to make sure nobody can just drive off with it.
@trevorberridge6079
12 күн бұрын
As someone who has happily owned a 2015 24kwh Nissan Leaf for eight years I have always banged on about it being a very early exponent of V2G capability. ChadeMo is seen as old hat, but it's very advanced in some ways. V2G as a (potential) standard feature was a party trick few had ten years ago. Even the mighty Tesla still don't have it in their family cars. I don't know why this significant resource of old Leafs isn't being enabled with V2G already.
@CurtCox
13 күн бұрын
I've been pricing used Leafs for exactly this reason. Switching to remote work has left us with 2 cars that see zero miles of usage on most weeks.
@danielmadar9938
13 күн бұрын
Thanks
@leafnutz2341
13 күн бұрын
This is for commerical use, not residential use. It works with 3 phase power
@simond7582
13 күн бұрын
I have 3 phase at home, it's very common in NZ now.
@MarkLever-e7o
13 күн бұрын
Very interesting
@v2gbob
13 күн бұрын
Go for it! Love that idea of the second car as a urban commuter AND V2B back up! (I would prefer to see something more along the lines of what Prof. Kempton purposed--V2G where you get paid to provide the grid with storage--way back in the 2000, though.)
@ThalassTKynn
13 күн бұрын
I'm more of a tinkerer, so Dala's project is more my style. But I also have a teenaged child who is learning to drive so (in the absence of bike infra haha) a second hand leaf that mostly stays at home is a pretty tempting idea.
@michaelowen6296
13 күн бұрын
One of the best articles you’ve done. Can’t wait to get a system that lets me use my 24Kw Leaf to my home. Michael
@jfrenchws6
13 күн бұрын
Thats a really interesting thought. As long as someone has room to park another vehicle it could be a really good idea.
@StephenMatrese
13 күн бұрын
1:14 Nikki, you KNOW we’re going to be pedantic, it’s nerd 101 🤣
@joelsmith4394
13 күн бұрын
I appreciate the double pivot mechanism I see on the outside hatch of the nest box, seen in the background. That’s clever!
@rui569
13 күн бұрын
Degradation is more a matter of power then capacity. Well, I've learned something today.
@malcolmstreet1
13 күн бұрын
I assume it's to do with increasing internal resistance.
@AdrianMcDaid
12 күн бұрын
This I belive is excellemt idea. In UK you cam get used leaf starting around £2.5k for 24kwh yes you wont havd all that capacity . You coukd just park it up have it connected most of the time buy off peak electic at night use that power during the day. Also push your excess solar into it. In UK we don't need worry about power going off. Very rare.
@imolazhp11
12 күн бұрын
I’m just not sure Nikki, depends on the installed cost. 2014+ Leaves don’t have a way to set a charge limit. Our 2015 has 75%capacity, 24 x .75 = ~18kW, but we try our best to limit charge to 75%, 18kW x .75 = 13.5kW. If this system has a way to limit charge, I’d be interested in getting a quote. This Leaf we have belongs to my husband and he works at home. So if there was a way to have it plugged in all the time but limited to 75% charge, it would works great for us. Except that out utility doesn’t use bi-directional meters. We sell all of our PV production at one rate, $0.09/kW and buy all of the electricity we consume at market rate, usually $0.12/kW. So I’m not sure how we could both hook this up to our PV system to get the tax credit and use it for home backup as the two systems are currently separate systems.
@icereturns7867
13 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure I recommended something very similar to you when I stated you should buy your written off F150 and leave it parked powering your home as a cheap 131kWh home backup system. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@jamespaul2587
13 күн бұрын
Yes, but the cost of that vehicle, even as salvage, would be very high, and she noted it wasn't an affordable option.
@transportevolved
13 күн бұрын
It sold for a lot
@icereturns7867
13 күн бұрын
@@transportevolved Really, wow 😳 who'd ave thunk it. Maybe because it's still rare as a salvage vehicle.
@ericapelz260
13 күн бұрын
I love my 2018 LEAF and this could be a useful addition, depending on cost
@peterengland6153
13 күн бұрын
There are Americans (Marques Brownlee 200kwh per/day consumption) and others (Me 7.5kwh per/day). I average 200-300 watt per hour, if I boil the kettle, turn on toaster, and run microwave all at once it is 3300 watts draw. I have a base MG4 (25,500USD) V2L Lead CCS2 to 16A CEE, 16a CCE socket with 16a RCBO, 16a cable back to consumer unit with 63a change over switch. Cost for that less than $200USD. I have no problems drawing 3500 watts from MG4, others on MG4 forum have done 6600 watts before car tripped out. I have had 3 power cuts in a year, and my MG4 has powered my whole house.
@mongo64071
4 күн бұрын
Sounds good idea for high schooler or commuting college student living at home. Removing a battery from a working car sounds like a dumb idea. It’s always good to have a spare car if you have space. You never know when you are going to need it. Emergency car + emergency power. Win-win
@niccox1738
10 күн бұрын
We are on the Indra V2H trial in the UK, it works really well
@2LegHumanist
12 күн бұрын
My 2015 Nissan Leaf still easily covers my 80km commute with 180k km on the clock. I bought it new and it has more than paid for itself in fuel savings. I had intended tonown it for 5 years, but it just keeps on going.
@libertykrueger1433
10 күн бұрын
You read my mind on this one. My wife was very excited when the F150 Lightning was announced to start at $40k and would have VtH capabilities. That was short lived however with every dealer we talked to initially charging significant premiums over MSRP and then Ford raising prices as well. We ended up spending a good portion of the money we had budgeted on a used 2018 Model 3 instead. Which hasn’t solved the frequent power outages we still have in our area. With the money we have left over, we’d still like to come up with a VtH backup power solution. Unfortunately we had no luck at all getting Fermata Energy to respond to any of our numerous queries. If they do contact you, I will be very interested in how to go about acquiring one. Are there places where they aren’t allowed? Perhaps that’s why they never bothered to answer any of my questions. Anything you can find out would be greatly appreciated.
@rp9674
13 күн бұрын
Nissan should do something. V2 whatever VS a dedicated battery that's always home, I'd rather spend more on the latter to a degree. WISH I had 2 120v on my Bolt, tho I'd need beefy long extendions & a pass thru
@AnonymousFreakYT
13 күн бұрын
The thing is that you have to spend a *LOT* more for a dedicated battery. The big example is the F-150 Lightning. To get home battery system with as much storage as the F-150 Lightning, you'd have to spend more than the cost of the Lightning.
@steffenfrkjr1424
13 күн бұрын
I had plan's for keeping my LEAF to do V2G and work run... but then some one came and wantet to bye.... and there by I got money for batterys for the City El 🙂
@cherrytreepermaculture756
13 күн бұрын
We have an I-MieV with Chademo, that would work as well?
@jamesphillips2285
13 күн бұрын
Yes, but the I-MiEV only has a 16kWh battery.
@cherrytreepermaculture756
13 күн бұрын
@@jamesphillips2285 ok, and the Leaf only has 24.
@cherrytreepermaculture756
13 күн бұрын
@jamesphillips2285 A new model Tesla Powerwall only has 13.5kw.
@BenjaminNelsonX
13 күн бұрын
@@cherrytreepermaculture756 I’ve done it. I did some experiments using the CHADEMO on the iMiEV as a power output. CHAdeMO V2H kzitem.info/door/PLmHss3DBZUinCtQhRuwHIYS8kVPXbvtyV
@AerialWaviator
12 күн бұрын
It really depends needs for how much power and for how long a particular "off-grid" location. Solar generator/backup options can be reasonable economical in the 3 kWh-6 kWh range and come self contained with inverter, so just need to plug devices in. There are off-grid kit systems that include inverter module (DC->AC converter) and have options of adding 3-18 kWh of energy, which can offer up to 10 kW of power. Some offer over 30 kWh, but for most this likely would be wasted capacity. These systems are often designed to be paired with solar pv system. Options even exist that support grid gateway switching, to remove a home from the grid connection, when grid power goes offline (like having a full-home UPS). Not sure if a dedicated EV is best option. It may be OK if a secondary consideration to normal use case. A consideration is not to use more than 1/2 to 3/4 the EV's battery capacity to save a margin should power be out for an extended period. (ie: not become stranded) Hopefully V2L, or V2X is supported with the rollout of SAE J3400 connection standard, so we see more standardized interface hardware produced in higher volume. Not just limited hardware with limited application. (ie: not limited to an EV model, or brand)
@aatheus
13 күн бұрын
If the price is right, and it's relatively easy to install, this could be game changer for folks who want to do V2H and V2G on the cheap (relative to a shiny new PowerWall). I am VERY interested to see what price point they can hit, and what the power transfer capability is. I'd love to get something like your 80A Ford bidirectional system.
@ddeightonuk
13 күн бұрын
Note that is a 3 Phase system, most properties in the UK have only 230v single phase. There is also the issue of islanding. The wallbox does not allow this I believe.
@ourv9603
13 күн бұрын
Stop me if I told you this story already... There is a guy on another channel who has completed himself a nice home in the woods. He has just finished installing all the solar the house will need and was about to start shopping for batteries when he saw an F150 Lightning commercial, you know the one where it shows connecting the truck to your house in a storm. He went down and talked to the dealer and it turns out the lightning was less than he was looking to pay for his battery pack and the Lightning has a bigger battery pack overall. !
@orangetiki
13 күн бұрын
Looking for my first ev and hopefully it will be soon. I was thinking about a leaf, but I but was thinking of a bolt because of the cooling. If this becomes doable it's 100% the leaf
@downix
13 күн бұрын
I want a v2h solution for my Kia Soul EV, so this is of interest to me.
@KSCPMark6742
13 күн бұрын
I'm curious why Nissan's permission is needed for something like that. Isn't it simply a feature of the car (2018 onward) that it is able to supply power? Afaik, earlier version can't to it.
@wekebu
13 күн бұрын
My understanding is that with Nissan's approval it won't void the warranty.
@rossr6616
13 күн бұрын
20kw is a sizeable load and could impact the battery over time
@seabream
12 күн бұрын
I don't know about in North America, but Nissan has had it as a feature in Japan since 2012 with Nissan branded bi-directional chargers for emergency home backup power. Granted, that wasn't adding many cycles since Japan has a pretty reliable grid most of the time in most places. In my manual from 2018, it says that as long as you use CHAdeMO standard compliant equipment, it is allowed, and doesn't void the warranty. I think there was something similar in my 2015 one, but it's been awhile, I'm not sure. Probably it isn't strictly necessary for Fermata to have Nissan certification, but it doesn't hurt for Nissan to offer an official stamp of approval to Fermata's equipment. It's possible that Fermata is announcing it this way for marketing. I haven't read about Nissan doing so for DCbel's equipment, but IIRC, they've been selling their bi-directional charger for something like a year now. Wallbox didn't announce Nissan approval this way, nor did Princeton Power, or Delta if I remember correctly, but they all have sold bi-directional equipment for the LEAF. Granted, not all of that was in North America, and different places have different cultural and business cultures.
@davidgeorge7443
13 күн бұрын
Go for it!
@LazyDog191
13 күн бұрын
It is not hard to ADD an inverter to your EV. I have a 2500 watt inverter mounted under the hood of my 2017 Ionic. It works great. Not alot of power BUT enough for lights, fridge etc. Cost $300 bucks.
@malcolmstreet1
13 күн бұрын
Fermata is 110V only. Since Wallbox dumped the Quasar those of us in 240V markets are SOL for CHAdeMO V2G :-(
@jamesphillips2285
13 күн бұрын
I kind of want to hook my Leaf to an "essential loaf panel". Difficult to find an CHAdeMO system that outputs 240V split single phase, and is waterproof. Home depot generator would be WAY cheaper (but also noisier). As others pointed out: many of the really cheap Leafs don't have the CHAdeMO port. That typically adds about $2000 to the cost.
@Pottery4Life
13 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@ChrisBigBad
7 күн бұрын
Ya. I've always looked at these, knowing that Chademo was designed to do these. Not even that expensive if you compare that to the price of a vehicle. Setec made /makes? them. 6KVA V2H device with 2.5m Chademo cable at EXW price USD 2800 per unit in 2021
@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl
13 күн бұрын
No Energy doesnt get more and more expensive!Prices have fallen a lot from the top in Europe!
@shanefiddle
13 күн бұрын
This is so cooooool!
@contraplano3157
7 күн бұрын
My Zoe Will be a candidate
@ElectraFlarefire
12 күн бұрын
And I immediately got distracted by the Xenia tshirt..
@transportevolved
12 күн бұрын
You know it - Nikki.
@Ryukachoo
13 күн бұрын
Wait... Can this system work if the battery pack + charge circuit are outside the car? Could you get a wrecked leaf for dirt cheap and get 20kwh of home energy storage for like, 6 grand all-in with some work?
@btmonson
13 күн бұрын
Love it!
@mikecarter2737
12 күн бұрын
The Nissan Leafs are cooled through an engineered combination of conductance, radiation, and convection. We have put over 150,000 miles total on every pack size Nissan has provided, driving in the mountains and Central Valley of CA. At temperatures up to 115°F. In 7 years, we have turtled 4 times and turned back due to overheating (Donner Pass) once. Yes, there are things that are hard to do with a Leaf - but when our power failed for 2 days, we just wanted to run the fridge and charge our phones and 5V battery packs. All this whole house and V2G nonsense is for the rich. I am not pleased being told what we can and can't do with our various Leafs. Even our degraded 2016 can handle a 250 mile day trip in summer.
@tokepanduro7302
13 күн бұрын
please try it out. it would be so interesting
@GNiessen
12 күн бұрын
It depends on the cost.
@lsh3rd
13 күн бұрын
It’s a narrow use case, but a use case nevertheless. I still think that most that can afford this system can probably afford a 40KWH car and probably should do that instead. My parents put in a very expensive Generac that might have been less worthwhile than a 2018 LEAF, plus this, minus one of their existing cars.
@brackcycle9056
13 күн бұрын
Why would Dala's answer require the battery out of the car ? Could you not just have a big Frankenstein switch , marked Stay & Go?
@mspalmboy
13 күн бұрын
Nikki is this bidirectional? I assume it's likely to be a bidirectional charger, as well as allowing V2X. Any information is appreciated. Thanks
@Senna007uk
13 күн бұрын
Nikki do you know if this will be available in the UK? Ive been waiting for a V2G charger for my leaf for 8 years since wallbox scrapped chademo on their V2G charger and Indra havent released theirs for sale to the public.
@joshuagies4900
12 күн бұрын
Assuming someone has already asked this... Does the Leaf get recharged from grid power from the same system or does it require a separate charging solution?
@rtfazeberdee3519
13 күн бұрын
You'll need to have it taxed and insured if you want to occasionally used it
@MartinBraun-l5j
12 күн бұрын
Not all Leafs are set up for two way power transfer.
@rossr6616
13 күн бұрын
I imagine other brands will ban this, at least during warranty period. Kind of surprised Nissan would go for this, or is it just for out of warranty Leafs? Leaves?
@lsh3rd
13 күн бұрын
As LEAF is an acronym, it is indeed LEAFs.
@seabream
12 күн бұрын
Nissan has had it in their manual in Canada since at least 2018 that you can use it for bi-directional applications without voiding the warranty (as long as the equipment meets CHAdeMO V2X standards). In their home market, a Nissan branded bi-directional charger has been a dealer option since 2012. Granted, it's a 5kW bi-directional charger, so that's almost no strain on a 30 kWh battery, let alone the largest one they have had at 62 kWh. Like, the "cycle-life" of batteries is not a single number. The type of cycle matters. The C-rate in both directions has a significant effect on the amount of effective aging a given cycle has. The temperature matters. Depth of discharge matters. The type of cycling you would do for emergency home backup or even peak shaving, is so mild compared to the strain of normal driving, and in the case of home backup, so infrequent compared to normal use, that for this purpose Nissan probably looked at it and decided it would have a negligible effect.
@thomasmartin896
12 күн бұрын
I've been trying to buy their F-15 model for over a year. I sent Fermata an email from their website. They wrote back and said they would contact me when they had a V2H EVSE for sale, but no word yet. This seems to be vaporware. Advertised but not available.
@videocanonuser
13 күн бұрын
Lots of interest in this topic but I don’t think it’s a flyer if it’s £5k or more. It’s too expensive for elderly Brits like Me. I have no solar so that would be another expense even if my roof was suitable.
@rossr6616
13 күн бұрын
what are your per kWh residential rates in the UK?
@mastarce
12 күн бұрын
You are concentrating on the cheapest worst battery Leafs. There are plenty of 40/64kwh Leafs which people use daily even as a main car that can use this system even better.
@transportevolved
12 күн бұрын
Yes, but that was the focus: cheaper, second life! - Nikki
@GregHassler
13 күн бұрын
Whatever happened to the Wallbox Quasar? I don't think they ever released the bidirectional charger in the US, did they? Seems that releasing a Chademo product in the US in 2024 may not be ideal.
@malcolmstreet1
13 күн бұрын
Wallbox stopped production of the Quasar without warning at the end of 2022. It was the only 240V V2G solution in full production and nothing has replaced it :-( I'm one of many people who bought Leaf's for V2G on the basis of the Quasar who are very, very p!ssed off :-( At least 110V markets have Fermata.
@seabream
12 күн бұрын
@@malcolmstreet1 As others have mentioned, Fermata's currently only offering 3-phase commercial equipment, so they're not really accessible for residential customers. I'm also waiting for something to make it to full production for North America and stay running. Princeton Power had CHAdeMO offerings in production and for sale in North America years ago, though they were much bulkier than Wallbox's Quasar. I've seen installations. They looked more like the smaller end of DCFC stations, which considering that is what they are, with the addition of being bi-directional, isn't that surprising I suppose. Unfortunately, they went out of business, much to the irritation of their customers. Some of their former staff continued doing support for their equipment, but to my knowledge they aren't developing or marketing products for sale anymore. From what I heard, the hardware was alright, and it could do basic things, but the software for managing it remotely was not as polished and reliable as you would want it to be if you were planning to use it for automatic load shifting, micro-grid applications, or virtual power plant integration, even if you had a technical team trying to run it commercially, let alone as a residential customer. Enphase does have a single phase offering undergoing testing both for CHAdeMO and CCS vehicles. You can find videos of demonstrations on KZitem and read their white paper on their website. Japanese made V2X equipment from multiple companies that are producing for Japanese customers has been imported for residential pilot projects in Canada and elsewhere at 120V (Japan's residential voltage is 100V, but that sort of re-spec isn't difficult). Nissan keeps saying that they're planning to commercialize their own offering internationally (they've offered it as a dealer option in Japan since 2012), but they also keep missing their targets. DCbel, referenced by Nikki at 3:20, is AFAIK actually currently selling residential equipment in limited markets in the US. Their product got UL certified in June 2023. I don't know what their timeline is for rolling out broader availability, but they keep raising money from partners, which is a good sign. I'm happy that they've stated that their equipment is designed to have the charging cable/plug changed out as needed if you get one for a CHAdeMO vehicle and then change to a CCS one, or vice versa. I think it's currently just New York and California, but if you're in one of those places, you could give them a look. Let us know what your experience is like if you do go with them. The big difference between them and Wallbox is that their V2X box is an all in one. It has two MPPTs to connect solar PV strings, and an inverter to convert it to AC. It has a hookup for stationary batteries and will manage them. It is NEMA 3R rated so it can be mounted outside. It's programmable to maximize self consumption of your PV generation if you wish.
@pingnick
13 күн бұрын
Wow yeah IF you don’t need to run ac for a while in particular could work out ok for a while yeah I mean if the🍃can’t accelerate well or even drive at highway speeds then!?
@pingnick
13 күн бұрын
Anyway lots of leafs leased recently in Colorado in particular so lots of supplies available for a while if you want more than just one eventually?
@yewenyi
13 күн бұрын
If a battery only has a life of a limited number of cycles then isn't using those cycles to help with the grid making the life of the car lower?
@seabream
12 күн бұрын
It depends. Honda did a study on the effect of using them for peak shaving and found that, properly managed, it was actually beneficial for the batteries compared to the alternative of just sitting idle. Battery aging is not a simple case of how many times you cycle them. Depth of discharge and charge, rate of charge and discharge, temperature, cycle time, cycle frequency, etc... all make a difference. If you have a system that doesn't abuse the batteries, you can use them without accelerating their aging. Driving, of course, can be a lot more strain on a pack, and you still have very high mileage EVs. This is not to say that they wont degrade over time as an effect of age, they will, it's just that cycling them correctly won't make it meaningfully worse.
@ImpactWench
13 күн бұрын
Uh, is everyone else here a robot?!
@maj429
13 күн бұрын
@@ImpactWench haha right? I swear every video now I have to report them.
@jamespaul2587
13 күн бұрын
Obviously not everyone 😊
@ImpactWench
13 күн бұрын
@@jamespaul2587 👀
@rossr6616
13 күн бұрын
Zoltan say no!
@borodinojoe1850
11 күн бұрын
Why put the charger in the front? Wake up. Harder to fix.
@transportevolved
11 күн бұрын
The charge door on the front is often easier from a parking perspective - Nikki
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