What micro-ATX or mini-ITX cases should we get in next? Working on sourcing some more! We also have more ATX on the way! Watch our Lian Li A3-mATX case review (we liked this one also): kzitem.info/news/bejne/kahv36mhgJFqeIY And our Antec Flux Pro ATX case review for a new chart-topper in thermals: kzitem.info/news/bejne/qqeC36WLnYN_lpw
@natsfan7
Күн бұрын
Ncase M2?
@j00st91
Күн бұрын
How about looking at the M2? It’s cheaper than the M1 Evo and has a LOT of config possibilities, both with AIOs and air cooled designs. Personally I chose an air-cooled one myself.
@Tony72495
Күн бұрын
FormD T1
@estrheagen4160
Күн бұрын
Some classic tower-style mATX cases, with ATX power supplies, horizontal GPU mounts and generally front to back airflow capability. Chimney style cases (like the A3 or the Asus AP201) are nice, but not what we imagine when we think of a case. I'd also like to see more discussion of air-cooled builds. Water is obviously more performant, especially in a restricted space such as an ITX case, but it's a significant added expense. Though I guess ITX in general is an added expense for objectively reduced practicality, and a cost-conscious build will just go with an mATX or ATX case.
@magnusnilsson9792
Күн бұрын
Montech XR?
@MrNside
Күн бұрын
The wood likely split because of the metal backing plate, not despite it. Metal and wood expand and contract at different rates and for different reasons (metal: temperature, wood: humidity). Fully adhering metal to wood in this fashion will run such a risk, especially if the production process doesn't monitor the wood moisture levels, or if any part of the processing after the wood and metal are affixed has extreme temperatures or humidity levels. That includes shipping. Looking at that split, what likely happened was just a localized moist spot in the wood when it was adhered to the metal. Then as the wood shrank as water dissipated and normalized, the metal held it in place when it was slightly expanded like a sponge. The "crack" is a split along the grain in an obvious weak spot. The metal would help protect against impacts, flexing, etc. But the glue or even the metal itself isn't strong enough to keep wood from expanding or contracting with water/humidity.
@GamersNexus
Күн бұрын
Awesome comment and very educational! Saw another like this. We obviously don't know a lot about woods and how wood behaves, but all of this makes complete logical sense. Thanks for posting.
@jasontstein
Күн бұрын
As a woodworker, I was immediately suspicious of the attached metal. Different expansion rates are bad for any parts.
@Guru_1092
Күн бұрын
Just pop sone color matched wood putty in there snd pretend it doesn't exist 😉
@Dracossaint
Күн бұрын
@@GamersNexusTo give ya an idea how wood in general behaves. Wood is a sponge. In time it will dry and contract, moisture causes expansion. some sponges have bigger gaps, while some are tightly weaved together. (Soft wood and hardwood respectively) Pine is soft wood, oak is hard wood and it usually falls in between those. To name machining properties, soft wood is easier to sculpt, but more spectacular failures. Hardwood is more flexible, but harder to machine. Also more likely to have a sheer break tho, like over hardened metal.
@kanrakucheese
Күн бұрын
Even different metals expand and contract at different rates and for different reasons. This is widely exploited with bimetallic strips (and occasionally strips of other materials like paper) to create extremely cheap (though only mostly accurate and only good for a relatively narrow range: The kind you'd see as secondary outputs on a cheap clock) temperature and humidity sensors by just sticking two thin sheets of dissimilar materials together and letting them do their thing and using the movements to move a dial.
@USSMariner
Күн бұрын
If Fractal makes a new version of the Pop, I would absolutely be on board with you covering that. Absolutely love mine.
@GamersNexus
Күн бұрын
The Pop did well in testing! Good price, too.
@blockbertus
Күн бұрын
The Pop is amazing. I got the magenta one for my mom, because I wanted to move the PC from the floor up to the desk and it should look nice. It also has a 5 1/4" slot which she still needs and the magenta fits her favorite colors. It was also very nice to build in and the RGB fans (locked to magenta) are a nice touch as well.
@steaksoldier
Күн бұрын
Asked my partner to find a case they liked, they picked the white pop air rgb. Loved building in it so much I bough one for me almost a year later and I'm about to rebuild my rig in it after my new cable mods get here.
@ffwast
Күн бұрын
For some reason it's the only case I know of to use that common sense drive bay placement and is always discounted so it must have sold poorly. There's something wrong with people I tell you.
@ZeroHourProductions407
Күн бұрын
As is, the pop XL is about the only thing I can really look at for my next main PC builds, entirely because it's the first since the Phanteks enthoo pro that has room for an open loop _and_ retains support to slot in an optical drive.
@slpwrm
Күн бұрын
A lot of positive reviews recently, awesome
@GamersNexus
Күн бұрын
It's nice to reset. Although our next 2 are extremely critical, so...
@jazzochannel
Күн бұрын
@@GamersNexus I don't watch this channel, Steve, because of sugar-coated, always-positive content. I think you know that better than any of your viewers.
@turtalel8053
Күн бұрын
@@jazzochannel 10/10 ragebait gj edit: oh no, I completely misread the comment, my bad :(
@andyderp6473
Күн бұрын
@@turtalel8053 got me also in the first half but 3 rereads it made sense.
@ffwast
Күн бұрын
"Nature is healing"
@jazzochannel
Күн бұрын
Can we take a moment to appreciate how GN still interacts with _what feels like_ the majority of their comments, just as if it was 2008 and youtube was still young an innocent?
@fVNzO
Күн бұрын
nice try.
@GamersNexus
Күн бұрын
hahaha, not sure if response bait, but I'll take it because I do like engaging with comments for discussion. That said, definitely not the majority! I'd never leave my chair!
@francescoatria1086
Күн бұрын
@@GamersNexus that is an easly solvable issue: hire someone that uses a wheelchair (I use one myself so i don't not mean to be offensive in any way)
@LordDragox412
Күн бұрын
@@GamersNexus Bait comments: Who are you? GN: I... am Steeeve!
@michaeloscar956
Күн бұрын
*young and innocent
@complete-mayhem-x64
Күн бұрын
Greg here, you didn't test to see if the Terra could fit into the Era 2. Testing isn't complete!
@vongdong10
Күн бұрын
Fractal seems to be the leader of the case manufacturers. Their old define cases were all business but now they're making art with innovation.
@DctrGizmo
Күн бұрын
They're making artistic cases by sacrificing airflow.
@Wzrd100
Күн бұрын
Benis
@sean8102
Күн бұрын
Need a new case and can't wait to get a torrent
@Scarlet_Soul
23 сағат бұрын
@@DctrGizmoThey swing back and forth. From the Torrent line to the Era 2
@BOLOYOO
22 сағат бұрын
@@DctrGizmo They are making just full variety of products. You can buy Fractal case focused on airflow easily and even more than that, it's still top 3 on the market.
@Elyse-t6v
22 сағат бұрын
The animations are great for this video, massively appreciate all the effort that went in to that
@Real_MisterSir
Күн бұрын
GN soon: "So to properly illustrate our testing of the new PS5 Pro, we've created this airflow simulation so you can truly understand where your marketing certified 8K smooth fps are evaporating from"
@GamersNexus
Күн бұрын
hahahaha
@poliwharaslah965
Күн бұрын
I read this in steve style.. hahaha..
@manuholoable
Күн бұрын
@@poliwharaslah965 Thanks Steve.
@eternalbleedingheart
22 сағат бұрын
Instead of airflow arrows, it's dollars
@kazefw3834
14 сағат бұрын
I hate that I can hear this in Steve's voice 😂
@ResumedPausing
Күн бұрын
Love the airflow animations!
@markphilpot8734
16 сағат бұрын
Still the most in-depth reviews on KZitem. Steve and his crew are top notch and don’t take any shortcuts or leave out details others just don’t have. This is the channel to watch for serious computer builders. 👍🏻
@kaaona123
Күн бұрын
If the fastening of a wooden part to a rigid, non-organic material does not have room for wood movement it will be the chief cause of cracking/splitting. The wood will want to expand and contract but it will not have the room or flexibility to do so. Are the holes used to fasten the wood to the metal ovals (instead of circles) that are also perpendicular to the grain direction? If it's some kind of adhesive, it should be the kind that has high 'gumminess' after curing to maybe let the wood move on its own a bit. That would be borderline but mostly fine. But, I'm guessing what happened here happened because the wood is thin and fixed in-place at the same time. I would hazard a guess that a 20% thicker wood panel would have less of a chance of cracking. Since PC cases heat up and cool down regularly and rapidly, and the wood is fixed to what is a very thermally conductive and rigid material, I would prefer slightly thicker wood, and maybe mechanical fasteners that have room for movement.
@GamersNexus
Күн бұрын
This is an awesome comment with good insights and thoughts. Thanks for sharing. Makes a lot of sense.
@kaaona123
Күн бұрын
@@GamersNexus I believe I found another desing flaw but without seeing it in person I can't speak definitively. Even though you referred to them as cross-bars I think they have the grain running in the same direction with the rest of the panel and it looks like they have created the look of a cross-bar by going over it with a router pass. I don't think that part is adding anything to its structure, in fact I think one of the reasons the crack happened there was because they have created what is called short grain. Which is the number one thing you want to avoid in woodworking in terms of resistance to movement and outer forces, such as blows or dragging furniture.
@WIImotionmasher
Күн бұрын
sounds like they should just cut oval holes instead of circle holes for the screws. Having the length of the ovals pointed across the grain (perpendicular)? That sounds simple enough, I hope they consider it. Maybe also increasing the top tolerances to account for a bit of expansion.
@AlbertScoot
15 сағат бұрын
I've worked a lot with wood paneling and yeah this is probably what happened, a solution is to loosen the bolts enough so the wood can push itself around. That may not be possible though, depending on how tight the tolerances are and if the glue holding it is too strong.
@kazefw3834
14 сағат бұрын
Rubber grommets on the fastening holes should maybe solve this issue
@marktackman2886
Күн бұрын
Fractal reviews make me feel good.
@jazzochannel
Күн бұрын
Fractal products make me proud and renew my faith in humanity. no joke.
@RayneAngelus
Күн бұрын
The good thing about fan disconfigurations is that they can often be corrected for by moving the fans around, including just flipping them over.
@Grimmwoldds
23 сағат бұрын
Only problem here is Fractal doesn't make the power supply or it's fan, and really has to use that bottom chassis fan as an intake due to the case configuration. The best solution would be to take the power supply apart and reverse the fan(push fan on the chassis feeding the PSU, PSU fan exhausting air out the side of the case). The problem is that 1)you have to open up the power supply 2)the fan might not be reversable depending on the mounting and internal power wiring.
@RayneAngelus
19 сағат бұрын
@@Grimmwoldds Obviously I don't have the case in front of me to check this, but couldn't you mount fans as intakes up top in place of a radiator and flip the bottom ones to exhaust like on the Terra case?
@Vertrixz
Күн бұрын
really looking forward to the Lancool 217 review when the case drops. they said on twitter it'll drop late q3 early q4, so hopefully before end of October
@GamersNexus
Күн бұрын
We'll be working on the Lancool cases soon!
@Guru_1092
Күн бұрын
Greg getting put on blast lmao.
@DarioCastellarin
23 сағат бұрын
"Screwlessly" is my new favourite word.
@AustinFerguson
Күн бұрын
Just built out my Ncase M2 and it has been a wonderful case in my use and setup. Currently Asrock a620, 7800x3d, Asus 3060 Ti (thanks steve), arctic cool II, seasonic focus 750, and 2 fans on bottom of case with the optional corner leg kit and its been running great.
@TenchiFreak5
21 сағат бұрын
Not for nothing but a quick throwaway bit showing what GPUs fit in SFF cases is an extremely helpful bit of info, Gregs or not. Gives much more reference than just going off of Tech Powerup specs sheets vs the stats pages on case websites/manuals.
@JohnAlzayat
Күн бұрын
I love these case reviews, they make my life so much easier when I get asked what cases people should get at the differing price and size points.
@Grimsace
Күн бұрын
8:30 Unironically, having a slide with just cards you know will fit, even if it's for a second or two could be useful. While I'm not certain, I suspect some cards and cases can have weird compatibility issues even if the dimensions technically say it should fit when comparing the case and graphics card.
@kazefw3834
14 сағат бұрын
Like having a random jutted section for the aesthetic that the dimensions didn't account for
@SpaceOrphan
Күн бұрын
Good job keeping manufacturers in line. True hero in the PC market.
@scherge
Күн бұрын
Those air flow animations are super helpful. Please keep making them.
@Khalifa_K
Күн бұрын
5 minute gang here. Also Fractal always makes great cases. Good to see they are still doing well.
@jazzochannel
Күн бұрын
same. or "word"
@eQui253
Күн бұрын
U did see the review , yes ?
@stennan
Күн бұрын
Fractal are great, though I am somewhat biased as they are from my home town. I was thinking of cutting up a newspaper and pasting it together into a friendly letter asking them for a mATX/mITX Fractal North... But perhaps I'll give them some more time to cook?
@eQui253
Күн бұрын
@@stennan I love fractal.. I use one rn and I am very happy with it. But regarding cases I would judge every case itself and not the brand. For example.. I wouldn't buy this one.
@KevPez-IS
Күн бұрын
GN needs to make a “GREG” shirt. No context, only Greg
@thelegendaryklobb2879
18 сағат бұрын
"Don't be a Greg"
@Makerr8
Күн бұрын
14:00 Wood expands and contracts quite a bit in that direction and is pretty easy to crack along with the grain. Typically, when you get pieces that small, its better to have the surface wood be a veneer over a more stable plywood base.
@spambot7110
19 сағат бұрын
yeah but then the edges would show the plywood, ruining the illusion. you could veneer the outside edges fine, but to cover all the inner surfaces of the slots would require an impossibly tight bend radius (and a bunch of extremely fiddly manual work and ridiculously complex clamping). if u painted the inside of the slots black, i feel like that would look pretty good, but also, the kind of people who pay extra money to have wood on their case are weird about that sort of thing so i'm guessing that wouldn't work out well.
@choggi
16 сағат бұрын
Maybe not black paint, but a real dark stain would hide the plywood decently.
@markryan6110
Күн бұрын
I'd love to see a review of the ncase m2! Both the perforated and flat front versions. They seem leagues better than the m1 evo.
@notfunny3397
Күн бұрын
Some of the extremely small mini itx cases would be amazing I think Iirc there were a few cases that were 3.6, 3.9, 4.1 and a few more under 6litres Obviously cooler and PSU choices are very limited but would love to see some tests and your thorough analysis Usually the KZitem videos showcasing these show only the positive aspects, and a lot of them are sponsored.
@blahorgaslisk7763
Күн бұрын
Those really small cases are neat, but not particularly functional or easy to work with. I know there's a market for them, but if I have to build it I would prefer something I can actually get my hand into when mounting components. I remember working with the Iwill dual processor SFF, the ZMAXdp. While a SFF when it was released 2004 it is probably considered too big today at 222 x 210 x 350 millimeters. That turns it into a 16 liter machine and it was a pretty compact build as the parts including the motherboard and CPU cooling were a bespoke design for this machine. And yet it was not really that easy to work inside, and I did that a lot as the company I worked for sold them.
@christianaltamura
15 сағат бұрын
Man I would love a tower 200 review, I remember you guys showed a quick showcase of it and I have been waiting for a full vid ever since
@BrianM216
18 сағат бұрын
I would like to add that Fractal has excellent customer service. I scratched the side panel on my North case and they replaced it for free, no questions asked.
@elektronischermeister
Күн бұрын
I think high air flow cases are a niche for a very few, most of the DIY PC builds do not uses excessively high TDP components that absolutely needs a HAF PC case. Computer cases should be functional and aesthetically pleasing, like this one, it is great to see this kind of innovation.
@robertmajors1737
Күн бұрын
The case looks fine, I just wish they would've made it compatible with matx boards at that size. It's not in what I consider to be itx size range, so not worth the tradeoffs you make for using an itx board. Id like to see you guys review the Ncase M2, it's smaller than this case, and allows the use of matx boards.
@alexhndr
Күн бұрын
"Greg", you dont want the smoke. Just ask ASUS and EKWB..
@seliparjepun3909
13 сағат бұрын
"Greg not like us,Greg not like us" - Steve
@some-replies
Күн бұрын
I genuinely want more wood on cases. Ditch as much plastic as you can and go wood and metal.
@PanderingSlats
Күн бұрын
I'm genuinely curious and excited to see where PC case industrial design goes for balancing 20th century wood accents against modernist sleek minimalism, namely because I really like both but can't choose between one or the other lol
@Marauder-q2v
21 сағат бұрын
hopefully fractal has an all metal lid as just an option.
@EffectualPoet
15 сағат бұрын
Nah, wood is not durable.
@prestup324
Күн бұрын
Would like to see the new NCase M2, certainly looks better than the M1.
@Cynyr
18 сағат бұрын
I had a mini ITX build back in 2010, where the PSU and CPU cooler fans fought. i very carefully opened the PSU and flipped the fan direction. It made a huge difference. The clearance between the CPU fan and the PSU was about 1-2mm.
@NoFailer
Күн бұрын
5:04 You missed the opportunity to say "Ractal" instead 😂
@hxwltheone
Күн бұрын
gotta love the airflow animation. We need more animation like this for skippers like myself
@timkey87
23 сағат бұрын
When he said it's $200 I was lil skeptical but after watching review I believe its fair considering quality, design, and top notch engineering. Money isn't a main concern for ITX builders anyways
@user-tz7jj7bl6q
17 сағат бұрын
I did some trickery to my case. It’s a phanteks p350x mid. Pretty basic. But I have a cpu section (top front fan is intake, top rear is exhaust). And a gpu section (front top is ex, front bottom is intake) and have channeling inside case with cardboard to channel air in two separate sections. The thermals are insane. Like great insane. I did this prior to the guy that 3d printed his sections like an adult in a really cool video showing how case design should be done. I did it with cardboard. And would do it this way first and then print sections… but never did it. I’ve had my case this way for 3 years, maybe 4 years… no fires yet!!! Hahaha… do have a 4090 in it too… I do have the pc at eye level next to tv just in case… thermals are 5-7c lower than they were without the channeling. And it was a fun and creative thing to do. It’s very cool, and has some really cool features I never intended it to have. Like some integration between the cpu section exhaust fans (one top rear, one rear standard) that can actually suck air through the gpu section the way I cardboarded the gpu. You’d have to see photos to understand it… and the intake on the gpu section is in a way forcing air though the gpu even when the fans are off with the combo of the cpu exhaust fans.. not the prettiest looking setup it could be but I’m a function over form kinda person. So it works for me…
@Kraaketaer
21 сағат бұрын
Love to see you keep up the ITX case reviews! A note about the wood: it's pretty obvious that this would crack, if I'm understanding what they did right. It looks like they glued the entire wooden panel, or at least the outer edges, to the metal frame. This is a recipe for cracked wood, and is exactly the opposite of what you want to do to avoid cracking. Any solid piece of wood (as opposed to laminated, plywood, particle board, etc.) will expand and contract with humidity and temperature changes. This is entirely unavoidable, and the effects are especially noticeable on thinner panels, and I'd expect all the cutouts to just make this even more so. What they'd want to do to avoid cracking is to mount the wood loosely, in a way that doesn't restrict its movement more than what is necessary. This is how wooden tabletops are mounted, for example - with mounting mechanisms that allow for wood movement, as otherwise the tension from expansion and contraction will warp and crack it. I hope I'm wrong about how this is mounted, but if not, Fractal is going to have to replace *a lot* of these panels.
@MGThePro
Күн бұрын
With that color it looks like a modern day SGI workstation
@Snusious
18 сағат бұрын
Animations popping off these latest videos! Awesome job as always.
@georgesomething
9 сағат бұрын
There have already been a couple comments explaining why the backing plate in current configuration contributes to wood cracking. As an addendum to them, the easiest fix for this is making the screw holes in the metal as slots and not tightening the screws completely, allowing the wood to move freely across the backing plate. Also hard to determine if the wood has been treated with something through camera though, the sheen makes me think that there should be a finish applied but it could also just be polished untreated wood. If there is no finish applied to wood, that will also contribute to increased wood movement. Wood is alive, whenever I make new wood constructions, thinking about how the movement of wood will affect them is crucial for a good outcome. Wood movement is strong enough to self disassemble whatever is made from it when that is not taken into consideration.
@ivocunha3362
Күн бұрын
Hey Steve! Where are the fan testing videos? It’s been a couple of years, and I was really excited for them
@FrancisFjordCupola
Күн бұрын
Got the Era 1. Love the case. It was simply never meant for insanely hot hardware. I wanted (and did) put electrically frugal hardware in it and it's never a problem. I can see several improvements #2 made. It doesn't look a lot bigger, but I hope we don't get the eternal size/feature creep of ever bigger stuff.
@MacchiDola
Күн бұрын
I'm watching all your case reviews because I"m looking for a new case and you keep uploading new case videos!! hahaha keep up the excellent content :)
@draggonhedd
23 сағат бұрын
i think the part i appreciate most about it is the vibrant teal color.. i'd like to see more of that.
@SHINYREDBULLETS
Күн бұрын
Nice to see manufacturers coming out with some decent gear recently!! :) Also, I'd love to see GN build a PC based off surveys ('pick from these cases,' 'pick from these processors & mobos,' etc) and see how that system would hold up to standard tests in comparison to expectations/costs/whats available from SIs, etc!
@FunkyTwn
Күн бұрын
Really digging the "3D Airflow Animations". It's very helpful and every case review should have it. I still want you to test the side fans on the North/XL as exhaust rather than intake.
@kyleolson8977
Күн бұрын
If that's real wood, that frame will not prevent the wood from cracking. Instead, it is more likely to cause the wood to crack. Wood moves; it expands and contracts, particularly with seasonal or locational changes in heat and moisture. You cannot lock it into place to keep it from cracking. If the wood expands, something has to move or break. This is a common problem woodworkers face when attaching tabletops. You must attach it in a way so that it can move. You can screw the wood into the frame, but not directly. It should be done so on pivoting pieces. Or you can put it in slots that allow movement. With such a small piece you might not usually worry as much about movement, but the strips so little movement will matter. The right answer might be "You can't ventilate through a piece of wood with such thin strips and expect it not to break so stop trying" and put a veneer on instead.
@davidsentanu7836
Күн бұрын
How do they do wood panels on some expensive cars? Cars get humid and dry and hot and cold all the time.
@maskharat
Күн бұрын
For tabletops, you just insert a steel or aluminium u-profile against the grain. That will stop movement, or rather redirect it to where you want it, are okay with it moving. Would work here too. Just keep a bump/profile on the stabilizing layer under the wood and cut the wood accordingly. That would direct the movement to the sides and would keep the critical center portion stable. For tabletops, 2 profiles in the outer thirds is enough to allow you to screw the feet into the wood directly, since most movement will then be in the center of the tabletop. That problem has been solved for centuries...
@MuShinnen
Күн бұрын
@@davidsentanu7836Not nearly the same actually. Wood in automotive applications is sealed and treated with the expectation of that much exposure.
@thegamergg200O
Күн бұрын
for the psu fan airflow problem, there is a easy but risky fix: Open the psu, and flip the fan so it sucks it out, thus following a correct airflow according to the case design.
@WayFastWhitey02
16 сағат бұрын
I wish they would build the North in that color, looks beautiful!
@rferradini
8 сағат бұрын
Would be good to see a review of the Thermaltake Tower 200! I'm considering that for my first build and I've seen other reviews but I would love one from you guys, still the most thorough and in-depth content I can find 👍👍👍
@darkkingastos4369
Күн бұрын
Fun fact if wood absorbs water it expands and nothing can prevent this. The metal backing will help keep it from bowing and give it a frame to help prevent damage from outside forces but it will not stop it from expanding if it absorbs water it may in fact cause it to break if it expands and is glued to the metal...NHLA certified hardwood lumber grader here.
@realiesOne
Күн бұрын
for $200 i'd go with a formd t1 - it would be cool to see a gn review on it
@MalachiConstant1980
Күн бұрын
Wood moves. Period. If you try to stabilize it, it will still move, just indifferent ways. The internal tensions of wood wanting to move will cause it to break if it is not allowed to move. I can't imagine wood being in a place where extremely hot air is exiting the case is the best idea. It looks good, though.
@BowlOfSomething
Күн бұрын
Wow, mechanically, this is amazing
@Fin1nishingMove
Күн бұрын
XD. More gimmicks on a case = "exceptional mechanically". Ooga booga. Message to manufacturers: just add more gimmicks to your case and omit dust filters if you want high grades from GamersNexus (if that's worth something to you).
@lgolem09l
Күн бұрын
Ports at the bottom, genius idea for cases on top of desktops. But would even work in my use case, which is the case sitting on the floor in the living room besides by TV stand. The Torrent is currently perfect for that, as it is even the same height as my stand. Ports at the bottom would allow for cable connected controllers like the dual sense to have less force on the cable. But I really hope fractal makes a case especially designed for the living room next.
@FiveFiveZeroTwo
23 сағат бұрын
22:22 That orientation looks quite nice!
@wooviee
18 сағат бұрын
The Sliger S620 would be a great comparison case, as it's a very big ITX case.
@akosv96
23 сағат бұрын
This is proof why I love ITX. Just enough challange to research build, but it is such an amazing thibg when it's done. This looks gorgeous yet easy to disassemble and clean. I wish it had a cheap version with metal top for 150$ or something.
@JHawke1
Күн бұрын
One test I'd like to see is how easy it is for you to actually make a build in this thing. Not sure how you'd judge it, but it'd be nice to see footage of any difficulties you might have so I as a potential customer can assess whether or not it's worth the bother.
@TwiztedHarlequin
Күн бұрын
Dang, that is a pretty nice looking case. Fractal is really on their game, just recently got myself an Fractal North XL in black with mesh side and I absolutely love it. Thanks to GM by the way, the tests done here got me to buy that case.
@GamersNexus
Күн бұрын
Glad the testing helps! We have a ton coming up over the next month too. Lots of case launches.
@aardvarkairsoft1660
5 сағат бұрын
Lian li q58 is a pretty slept on itx case with pretty good compromise between having tempered glass and airflow
@hungryyelly
9 сағат бұрын
Good to see Fractal design put a bit more thought into the build and design of the era 2. Quite a lot of people in the SFF community really disliked the era 1 because it was basically a really expensive hotbox. Form over function especially for an itx case can be really bad for the components. That PSU orientation / mount kind of makes sense though. Most people recommend a negative pressure setup for a sandwich case so cool air is forced through the sides and exhausted out the top / bottom. Overall good review as always GN.
@spambot7110
18 сағат бұрын
honestly given all the issues around PSU integration, i'm surprised more high-end cases don't do their own PSU and power wiring for flexibility. using either custom cable channels or laminating a PCB onto the motherboard tray, they could have a single off-the-shelf 12V PSU, not bound by the ATX mechanical spec, and then distribute the DC/DC convertors and breakout connectors around the case right where they're needed. basically, a modular PSU but at a case level, where the power connectors are located right next to the actual components they're for, so you just need a short jumper to hook up a part. you could have some really cute integrations for things like drive cages as well, where the cages have a simple passive "backplane" board, that exposes the SATA connectors at some convenient spot and plugs into the case's power distribution when mounted. since the power distribution is integrated into the case's mechanical design, you could also just put fan headers right next to each of the spots a fan can be mounted, and just have a little socket somewhere central for your fan hub to plug into.
@Didymuss1
19 сағат бұрын
I'm enjoying that you're back on case testing, especially with the smaller cases, and I like the look of this case. Given the smaller nature of this case and the PSU-on-intake action, I was wondering what you thought about the HD Plex PSUs, which are thinner and shorter but longer than SFX PSUs. Not necessarily for this case specifically, but in general since they seem like a cool little alternative.
@sunsinger970
13 сағат бұрын
Fractal design just calmly strolled to being an industry leader.
@poomplanichaya
Күн бұрын
Now I wish you guy review Formd T1 v2.1
@2mo2time
20 сағат бұрын
Wow fractal is running the itx and design game
@Jonathan-Roden
Күн бұрын
this is typically the kind of case where a 100% passive power supply would fit (cooling wise)
@kazefw3834
14 сағат бұрын
Thank you Steve, now back to you Steve
@jodgey4
17 сағат бұрын
Thank you for the itx reviews!
@styledstrike
Күн бұрын
Oh I like how it describes where the product came from now
@WIImotionmasher
Күн бұрын
Nice 3D animations, I'm amazed you guys find the time to do that stuff. Though I'm sure you'd say you almost don't lol I've attempted 3D modelling very briefly and it scrambles my mind.
@cc0767
Күн бұрын
Since you made that great flow animation recently, maybe add ITX designs competing by size instead of thermals/noise like you do for ATX. Beeing able to visualize how big a case is next to another might help people who actually want a specific form factor.
@bleack8701
2 сағат бұрын
Thank you Greg! Always providing great content
@ZanaGBYT
23 сағат бұрын
As for suggestions for a case, it appears that there's a new case from NCASE, the M2. it seems to be a bit larger than the M1 Evo, and from afar it looks like it could be a dream to build on given you can put many components in there. but nobody has done exhaustive thermals/noise data on it to my knowledge.
@ironmanjohnny232
23 сағат бұрын
I've been waiting for that lian li 217 case. Hope they release it soon
@zec1740
Күн бұрын
this might be my new favorite case
@lawrencelikaiso
22 сағат бұрын
Solution to the PSU fan issue: 1. mount the fan to an exhaust configuration on the PSU 2. remove the fan and the fan shroud to allow only the case intake fan to cool the PSU
@AlbertScoot
15 сағат бұрын
Other than the lack of more holes in the case shell it sounds like it has all the good parts of the usual itx case and its own share of downsides, like all itx cases have.
@watercannonscollaboration2281
18 сағат бұрын
You could say this review is off to a cracking start Also RIP Lian Li Q58, probably would’ve gave this case a good run for its money back when it was still sold
@cozmium
19 сағат бұрын
I really think as an industry there needs to be more support and incentive for people to make their own cables via kits for example, if they are serious about case building and/or are in the industry of building, or just enthusiastic about neatness. I've made my own cables for well over a 15 years just so i don't have to have 2 or 3 'spare' connectors if i'm only connecting one thing. In compact builds like this, you could probably cut the cable space in half from what i've seen.
@jwest88
16 сағат бұрын
That quick disassembly is actually really cool. I need to upgrade my gpu so think I'll be on my define r5 for a good while longer. The air pop is the one I had my eye on since I still use an optical drive from time to time.
@someanonymouskid7043
23 сағат бұрын
Fractal and Antec are on a tear!
@Cynyr
18 сағат бұрын
I want to see Steve do a build in the Velkase Velka 5 without the instructions, ideally live.
@jacktherupert
23 сағат бұрын
Would love to see the Silverstone Sugo 17, thinking about building it next.
@SteveBerube
15 сағат бұрын
just to nitpick Fractal should put plastic washers for the spine screw so that it won't scratch the paint...very tempted to get one for my next build
@baronvonschnellenstein2811
16 сағат бұрын
Excellent! I've been hanging out for the test results on this case 🍻
@jakefriday
12 сағат бұрын
I'm a Fractal stan just because i've had terrible experiences with other case makers in customer service while I've had great experiences with Fractal. I realize not everyone might not have this experience but I'm on the Fractal boat until something stupid happens which makes me question the common sense of the company as other case makers have made me do.
@thegamingjackhammer6472
8 сағат бұрын
NR200P Max V2 review, WE NEEDS IT
@ufukpolat3480
Күн бұрын
Kudos to Fractal, the first iteration wasn't well received by majority of reviews and consumers, they seem to have fixed their issues. Edit: n/m thermals are still not good.
@greevous
10 сағат бұрын
To fix the power supply issue, open the psu and flip the fan so it does not fight the bottom intake fan.
@del669
Күн бұрын
would love to see how this compares against fractal ridge in thermals
@lukeperryglover
Күн бұрын
The walkthrough for Greg haha
@Interbert
Күн бұрын
When the Thermaltake Travel PC TR100 is on the market!
@tokkra
Күн бұрын
I think the Lian Li Q58 is the most similar case in term of volume and internal arrangement.
@brianzjones
17 сағат бұрын
"I'm not a wood expert." You don't gotta lie to kick it, Steve.... -bZj
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