Fractal didn't take the case to production-but they did the next best things, and released the 3D files so you could build your own! Check it out here: www.fractal-design.com/north-pi-3d-files/ A video on the 3D print will come soon over on Level2Jeff :)
@mattybbg6850
3 ай бұрын
Make it fractal!
@webfleet1
3 ай бұрын
Yesssss I wantttt itttttt 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@AerialWaviator
3 ай бұрын
This phrase could work on a Jeff-T too. (a punny slogan)
@jonathanzj620
3 ай бұрын
Shut up and take my money
@joonasfi
3 ай бұрын
Make it fractal!
@sillydillybar
3 ай бұрын
I would buy a raspberry pi just for this
@Kitteh.B
3 ай бұрын
I clicked this video fully intending to click an affiliate link to buy the Baby North. Fractal, my wallet is already open. Make it happen, please!
@Lumilan
3 ай бұрын
SERIOUSLY! I already have a North case, and would actually drop $70 if this was a real product!
@VistasSrinagarun
3 ай бұрын
it doesn't happen often that a case has made me want to buy a computer..... OMG Fractal
@johnjurmu5669
3 ай бұрын
Wood grain, expect a review on LGR too
@DonaldMcdowel
3 ай бұрын
Gamers Nexus covered this, I really wanted it but they said they didnt want to sell it. How can they tease us....
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
Exactly, I think if enough of us keep asking... maybe it could happen!
@ssl3546
3 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling It would be so cheap to make at scale - injection mold two clamshell pieces, the wood pieces could just snap into place. The profit margins would be insane and the potential volumes crazy - there have been 61 million raspberry pis sold to date.
@dakoderii4221
3 ай бұрын
@@ssl3546 There are 3D printers galore. There is profit to be made. Someone will be incentivized to do it. It is worth investing their time into if so many people want one. Major business opportunity.
@bestworks7574
3 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling You can find my idea of this design for free on printables. Thanks for the teardown, maybe I will try to modify my design accordingly.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
@@bestworks7574 I saw it! Looks great, and a few tweaks and the thing would be an amazing DIY alternative (still would love to see Fractal make a production version of Baby North with their nice wood finish and all).
@JohnPernock
3 ай бұрын
You got me so excited since I have pi's and I have the regular north case. I was immediately looking for a link like - 'Shut Up and Take My Money'
@BlackHoleForge
3 ай бұрын
On the serious side, a real-time clock shouldn't be something that's "also included", like an add-on piece, it should be one of the bare minimums like Ethernet.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
To be fair, the Pi itself now has an RTC built in, just needs a battery plugged in for it. It'd be cool if they had a little slot so you could pop on a 1632 battery cell or something, but at least they have a JST header now. It's a weird size though.
@BlackHoleForge
3 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling I agree it is a little weird. I can understand why they don't have a cr2032, because of how big it is, but at least there is a header.
@OriNachum
3 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerlingwhy do we need to commit to a battery if usually (not always, I know), we have internet and can sync? Internet support has far greater value, so that’s a must for the main series, and missing on Zero series. (Only WiFi makes sense as it is smaller) It’s interesting what they could pop in if they skipped Ethernet, but I don’t think a battery is the best alternative
@treahblade
3 ай бұрын
@@OriNachum I agree I have used PI's since the original B and I have never really needed a RTC on the pi. Having a software clock works just fine and having it go out and sync with a internet time server has never been an issue.. Its nice there is a header but I am unsure what the real point of such a thing is.
@headerahelix
2 ай бұрын
@@OriNachumRedundancy. Most people won't need it, some will.
@CoffeeOnRails
3 ай бұрын
If fractal brings the baby north to market I’d not only buy it but also a north to replace my current case.
@NearCry91
3 ай бұрын
🌲/5 actually works, atleast in Finnish. Spruce is "kuusi" and six is also "kuusi". So you read that as "six out of five".
@Dygear
3 ай бұрын
"Would / Wood out of Five." LMAO. Great pun.
@programmablefox
3 ай бұрын
i need something FRACTAL for my pi
@aaron_ente8489
2 ай бұрын
They uploaded files to 3D print the case 😊😊
@MichaelKlements
3 ай бұрын
That Fractal Design case is fantastic, I love the wood accents and the feet to match the full size version. Hopefully they’re listening and get them into production! I appreciate the mention too!
@user-iu1yk8kg8s
2 ай бұрын
@MichaelKlements I'm awaiting your video where you have printed it!!!
@MarcusTheDorkus
3 ай бұрын
OMG THE BABY NORTH IS SO CUTE. Please, Fractal we *need* this!
@MartinHiggs84
3 ай бұрын
Fractal case looks great 👍 I'd buy one 😊 if could mount nvme hat
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
Most of the top HATs would fit okay. A bottom HAT would make it too tall for the port holes, but could be hacked in. I think if they took this to production they could figure out some solutions (and maybe re-orient the Pi for a little easier use of things like the power button?).
@MartinHiggs84
3 ай бұрын
@JeffGeerling Depending on stand-offs available they could leave room underneath so holes line up or have a board there. I don't have a Pi 5 yet is external power button still an option?.
@Tomydirium
3 ай бұрын
I'd wait for your review nevertheless 😅
@MartinHiggs84
3 ай бұрын
I may drive to the raspberry pi store tomorrow 😬
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
@@MartinHiggs84 Yeah; the problem is the baked-in holes cut into the top and back for ports on the Pi-you'd have to re-cut those somehow so the Pi would fit with a HAT underneath (HAB?). The power button can be run through GPIO, but the physical power button traces go to a couple through-hole pads so you'd have to solder to it or use a good POGO pin to get good contact for an external power button.
@AgentAsteriski
3 ай бұрын
Come on, Fractal, the people are trying to speak...
@mojoxerspootykat594
3 ай бұрын
I have the Pironman. Love all the features that come with it for the price - IceTower cooler, NVMe hat, breakout board to move the HDMI connectors to the rear of the case AND make them full sized, the mentioned RTC battery and OLED display, plus the obvious RGB speed fans, and last but not least, it adds an easy to use power button. It's not super cheap, but I think it's a pretty good value when you add up all the included bits. Bonus points for looking old school gamer-y!
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
Yeah; it's not the 'every budget' case, but it is nice, and if you add up the price of all the individual parts (and don't want to 3D print your own thing), it's not a bad value.
@ScottJThornton
22 күн бұрын
I received mine last week and assembled it right away. I originally bought a CanaKit that was fine, but I wanted to switch to an NVMe SSD, so the Pironman appealed to me. It’s been a long time since I rolled my own desktop, and this one was fun and visually appealing. Well worth the money to me. Note that you can save about $15 if you have a 5V 5A power supply already.
@asm2750
3 ай бұрын
Baby North with the Pironman port configuration would be perfect.
@walrusbyte263
3 ай бұрын
I've got the adult version of the Fractal North case for my gaming PC. Happy with it so far!
@randaldavis8976
3 ай бұрын
I built one a year ago, happy but it was a bit tight in places. Also wished I had thought of my dvd burner needs for backup
@walrusbyte263
3 ай бұрын
@@randaldavis8976 I kinda miss my old computer's SD card slot a bit too, but it hasn't been too bad without it
@randaldavis8976
3 ай бұрын
@@walrusbyte263 I think my card reader is an accessory, but data backup is important
@hellterminator
3 ай бұрын
Hey, the Pi 5 case _actually working_ is a huge upgrade from the Pi 4 case which overheated the Pi even at idle. It's like this time, someone actually tried using it for 20 minutes before greenlighting mass production (or maybe not and they just got lucky).
@jonevansauthor
3 ай бұрын
Wait, they printed a box, but they're not selling it? I mean, they printed the actual cardboard box for one, but won't sell it? It's crazy.
@ronbaer67
3 ай бұрын
WOOD
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
🪵
@An.Individual
3 ай бұрын
Any news on the Compute Module 5? I am hoping for SATA ports as I want to build a NAS using 3.5" HDDs
@gustavrsh
3 ай бұрын
Jeff, I'm using the GeekPi Metal Case, I paid $22.80 on amazon for it, comes with the official heatsink/fan and supports their line of nvme hats. Looks great and sturdy.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
I saw that one while searching for taller cases, looks like a solid case!
@ernestgalvan9037
3 ай бұрын
Geekworm also makes cases that accept their HAT’s and Bases. I have the 580 case and the X1002 Bottom MVMe base.
@bakrtech7727
3 ай бұрын
"NOT me the pie " 😂😂😂
@yesterdaybread9712
3 ай бұрын
fractal go go go! just remember to price it resonably so its accessable
@MillerWissen
3 ай бұрын
Absolutely would buy this case, fractal needs to get on it.
@NeaLx86
3 ай бұрын
how dare you insult saltines
@Flauscheloni
3 ай бұрын
I don’t own a pi, I have no real interest in pi, and I only clicked because of that fractal case… I would definitely buy this case and a pi and then figure out what to do with it, if it becomes available. Good lord this thing is cute. I do own a regular size north and fell in love with it the instant I saw it. It replaced my first pc case I bought, lo and behold, a fractal define s. And I just moved my system into a fractal terra recently. I’m a bit of a fractal fan, it seems….
@marcolebdech
2 ай бұрын
I am thrilled that they released it to public like this. It probably wouldn't be viable to manufacture these being as is. I can also imagine being it a topic at a four-hour-long meeting (in tandem with another 4-hour-one to decide a name). That is just a not-far-from-the-truth joke based on my observation working in a tech company. But oh boy, I will print myself one, maybe even two! Finally a worthy case for a PI.
@rahulskumar3062
2 ай бұрын
Hey, you have RTL-SDR connected to one of your PIs in the rack. Make a video sometime about how to set-up a pi with rtl sdr and remotely operate it. Also share your experience about your setup and what do you use it for.
@CheapSushi
3 ай бұрын
The tiny Fractal case made me actually want to get a Raspberry Pi; never had one before.
@Luno2137
29 күн бұрын
Hi, just wanted to ask, where did you get the acrylic stand from? I bought the active cooler for my rpi 5 and I need something to hold it in place nicely.
@romayojr
3 ай бұрын
you had us in the first half not gonna lie 6:42
@TheShortStory
3 ай бұрын
I have an excellent pi4 case: red aluminum that works as a fantastic heat sink. And I don’t like adding waste to the planet. But if they made this Fractal case I would deeply struggle not to buy it
@bzuidgeest
3 ай бұрын
Is it "no effort November" already??? No wait, this isn't technology connections...
@awatson16
3 ай бұрын
Oh as someone already using the matching case for my main desktop, the fractal would be the excuse i needed to finally get my first pi 🤣
@zk_6312
3 ай бұрын
Well, if you did not need real wood, you could 3d print it using wood filament. That case does look really nice though. Too bad they don't sell one.
@venilc
3 ай бұрын
I don't even own a raspberry pi, but I was willing to buy it. Do it, Fractal!
@Vipervire
3 ай бұрын
It's so cute! Fractal, I'd buy three for a cluster
@originalmagneto
3 ай бұрын
Can you make an updated miniNAS video focusing on cases for such a solution? 😬
@tommythorn
3 ай бұрын
I have the OG North and would buy the Fractal case (and get a Pi 5 to fit in it). I'd love to see more beautiful cases and the more wood the better.
@PepijndeVos
3 ай бұрын
My PoE Pi is indeed sitting on just a bottom tray because I couldn't find a way to combine a pi + heatsink + PoE + case
@AIC_onyt
3 ай бұрын
that sponsor segue was so rough, you should ask linus for a smoother one. smooth like this Segway to our sponsor: Squarespace
@samiraperi467
3 ай бұрын
The word is "segue".
@clifffton
3 ай бұрын
Might want to look up the spelling. It isn't Segway, it is segue.
@asphere8
3 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of the Flirc case for my Pis. Easy, quick assembly and keeps the thing cool under high load.
@bonaventura_AKA_ben
3 ай бұрын
I too have a weakness for these cute lil cases. Cue the Fry take my money meme. BTW how cool is it to simply walk into a Micro Center and buy a PI, just about any PI? I hope my local mc stocks more pimorni hats. Gotta get more hats
@SpaceDoodle2008
3 ай бұрын
How many pis do you run?
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
In 'production', right now 7. It goes up and down a little month to month, but I have about 10 other Pis I use for review testing, experiments, or temporary projects. Right now I have one temp Pi on my Ender 3 S1 to work on Klipper, another on my desk testing a couple router HATs with 2.5 Gbps Ethernet, and another Pi running some weird PCIe tests.
@Wazaarbazaar
3 ай бұрын
An average off Pi.. 3.14!?
@UnderEu
3 ай бұрын
Yes
@kevinpitts3548
3 ай бұрын
I would get into the raspberry family if I could get the baby north
@armisis
3 ай бұрын
I got my pironman 5 case irs brilliant and has a control web page! I am now waiting on my second one. 😂
@marzvrover
3 ай бұрын
me with a pi and esp32 wired together with no case or backing for years 😅
@Ox4d
3 ай бұрын
Regarding the V3 m.2: mine didn’t work out of the box, had to install the argon stuff to then tinker on the bootloader from there. Now it works like a charm. Used the argon one m.2 for pi 4 and the upgrade to nvme on the pi 5 is great
@keyboard_g
3 ай бұрын
Rubber baby bumper Fractals.
@JohnPMiller
3 ай бұрын
I'm a big Fractal fan, even bigger than their 140mm models.😉
@TinTalon
3 ай бұрын
I emailed as well a couple weeks ago. They asked me if I was interested in them possible making it that I could email their development dept. I did! Multiple times. lol. The Pironman 5 is the best case in my opinion. All of SunFounder cases are a cut above. The Argon40 cases are a very close 2nd. Excellent quality. But just glad there are so many options available for your use case either purchasing or printing or crafting. :). Great video Jeff. Thanks
@realandrewhatfield
3 ай бұрын
14 seconds ago - How much would you pay for that Fractal case?! I bet Red Shirt Jeff runs his Pi's naked.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
😳
@okra3000
3 ай бұрын
Do you have any audio (mic and speaker) solutions for the raspberry pi 5❓ I'm trying to build a smart speaker similar to Alexa.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
I would email Pimoroni and ask; it seems like a natural fit and modifying their Pirate Radio product slightly, they could have a perfect mic and speaker hat
@user-be3mk6cg4c
3 ай бұрын
Come on Fractal, can we at least have the .stl? I got a North that needs a mini
@thebeast7590
3 ай бұрын
right its almost the perfect hight to be a gpu sag support in my north xl it would be north-ception and i would love it sm
@user-be3mk6cg4c
2 ай бұрын
@@thebeast7590 I hope you have started this project now :D
@user-be3mk6cg4c
Ай бұрын
Well this aged well
@thebeast7590
Ай бұрын
@@user-be3mk6cg4c right but good on them im printing one soon glad they know we want it
@kevinsteinman8967
3 ай бұрын
Like someone else said, where is the "Take My Money Link".
@ingusmant
3 ай бұрын
What's the point when you can 3D print an entire rpi case with whatever design and specs you need in one go? Try doing that for even an SFF PC without cutting it into a bunch of posts that will never fit properly.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
True, though not everyone has a 3D printer, and also some filaments aren't well suited for every Pi situation. Usually PLA is fine but some people would need PETG or ABS and can't easily print that to the same standard as a manufactured case.
@PMFG
3 ай бұрын
Really thought it was going to be a 3.14/5 😅
@treahblade
3 ай бұрын
I also have that nvme base board on my pi5 and i also am just running it bare like you have in your rack there Jeff. I really do wish there was some case for the thing that would fit as I do not have a 3d printer to print me off one. I have considered making one from acrylic and some wood though so that fractal case is a good inspiration.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
I think Pineboards is working on a case that will be compatible with the Pimoroni board and all of Pineboards' bottom boards too. Hopefully they can start selling it and/or publish some files for it soon!
@Em4gdn1m
3 ай бұрын
Complain about the Pironman's $80 price tag, but then want Fractal to make one? Pretty sure they aren't selling it for any less than that.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
Less complain, more mention it strongly since some people think anything Pi-related is cheap, and I don't want them to get sticker shock when they see it!
@MikeHarris1984
3 ай бұрын
That appears to be 3D printed with a hot iron finish to smooth it out... I hope they upload the STL files!!! I want to print one with my resin printer, and then i'll make the wood inserts!!!
@MikeHarris1984
3 ай бұрын
I have an anycubic Mono SE (this is my favorite printer of all times!!! The layers, you cant even see. I print figures and stuff and it looks like an injected molded plastic. I also have an Anycubic Max3, and that one even with higher resolution and MUCH bigger bed size, its so much slower and the layer lines show up, so requires sanding and stuff to finish items. But a Pi5 case, I can print on my Mono SE... I may design one and the build and sell some on Etsy or something.... going to play with the design a bit and see if I can come up with a printed version of it!
@computersales
3 ай бұрын
Thought it was hotdogs on front of the case for a second.
@grayspirit5779
3 ай бұрын
I want the fractal case, even when i dont have a pi for it.
@Genesis8934
3 ай бұрын
Ever tried sub/near-zero pi cooling? I can't remember if I've seen anyone do it, even LTT lol
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
Good question, and no not yet-I do have plans, but have run into a few snags. I have a Peltier setup but not good enough for freezing temps.
@scoops2016
3 ай бұрын
I noticed your RTL-SDR good to see you are still tinkering with HAM stuff.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
Still a total noob at radio but learning more every week!
@zadtheinhaler
3 ай бұрын
Fractal definitely needs to pull the trigger on that case, it is SO DOPE.
@fins5150
2 ай бұрын
My Argon M2 is chugging along just fine!
@fred290e
2 ай бұрын
I totally want that Pironman 5 case. It's not that bad for $79.99. Im going to order one.
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
I have one to test, just got it last week! I will probably post about it on Level2Jeff.
@custekdr
3 ай бұрын
What happened to the Axzez Interceptor Carrier Boards? As ways out of stock.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
I would email them and ask-they have been working on a revision I think, at least I had asked them about that a couple months ago when I made my last video. They had stock then but they may be retooling or waiting on another production batch to come back.
@Its-Just-Zip
3 ай бұрын
For fractal if they are reading: I wood.
@nathanholtzclaw
3 ай бұрын
Fractal Design I know you're watching this. I already own two FD North cases. I would happily buy a third if it gave me an excuse to find some stupid use for a Raspberry PI
@Rick-vm8bl
3 ай бұрын
Curious to know what the huge metal usb stick with antenna is at 7:00, kinda looks a bit like a dvb tuner?
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
It's an RTL-SDR v3, great for certain frequencies tuning different signals... testing with ADS-B and terrestrial radio right now.
@alangreenwell1848
2 ай бұрын
There is a 3D printable one on printables.
@EDATEC
3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for testing EDATEC's fanless cooling cases of Raspberry Pi 5! We are committed to the use of Raspberry Pi in industrial applications and will continue to do more with Raspberry Pi!
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
I'm glad you have so many enclosures-I have yet to test a couple of the touchscreen ones, but I have plans for those as well :)
@EDATEC
2 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling WOW, that's a good news! We're looking forward to seeing that!!
@MSThalamus-gj9oi
3 ай бұрын
The official case does cool better if you leave the lid off. I've taken to gluing window screen material to the underside of the inner top to keep crud from falling in. It looks fine (none of my Pis are visible typically anyway) and the fan doesn't have to work nearly as hard.
@buhizkewl7105
3 ай бұрын
T-shirt with a pic of Jeff chewing peanut butter Pi plz
@nikobellic570
3 ай бұрын
Thing i like about the official case is it's plastic so it doesn't get hot to touch like the passive, metal ones do. It also comes in all black
@adamharcourt7696
3 ай бұрын
The pimoroni NVMe base can fit as a hat in the official pi 5 case if you use 20mm standoffs. I’ve been running one as a mini plex server for months.
@ronaldhofman1726
3 ай бұрын
Metal casings are bad for wifi , i have a neo 5 , better use cabled network.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
True; some of the metal cases (like those from EDATEC) either have openings or plastic 'windows' in that area of the case to let signal pass through. They still attenuate the signal a bit, though, so if you need built-in WiFi, a plastic case may be the best option (or a tray :)
@Marbeary
3 ай бұрын
All of the tech tubers that went to review fractal booth in computex were already begging fractal to sell this. It would be great for audiophiles for a DAC.
@skoog7091
3 ай бұрын
I know one at fractal. My lobbing operation is on full speed as we speak
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
Take my energy!
@ZoeDowney
3 ай бұрын
only issue I have with the Argon case is that it doesn't port out the composite video from the 3.5mm jack, and I'm using that with my Pi 4 on a CRT as a retro console
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
Yeah; it would be nice if a case broke out the analog video output too. It's not used by everyone, but for those who do use it, it's invaluable.
@ZoeDowney
3 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling if only... honestly, I'd kill for an S-Video hat more than anything else lol
@superhalo117
3 ай бұрын
Just saw the Fractal case on Printables if anyone wants to make their own.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I know at least two people are working on designs-that one's already good, but needs some tweaking to make it look just so :)
@Warlock_UK
3 ай бұрын
My official pi case is basically totally unused now that I have an nvme mount under it. I'd love a case, I'm in the same situation with my Pimoroni NVMe Base. It's just sat on feet.
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
Pineboards mentioned they might introduce their own bottom-board-compatible case soon
@Warlock_UK
3 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling Ah nice, cheers Jeff!
@makermatthew
3 ай бұрын
Jeff, where do you get those thin ethernet cables (seen at 4:00)? They are neat!
@JeffGeerling
3 ай бұрын
Monoprice slimline Ethernet cables, good for general use!
@4bSix86f61
3 ай бұрын
The PI case was meant for a pi server
@Atom224
3 ай бұрын
I love my Fractal Define R6. Fractal is simply the best computer case manufacturer, period.
@pjforde1978
2 ай бұрын
How do they connect two Noctua fans to a board that only has one PWM fan port?
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
I believe they had some sort of adapter that I unfortunately did not get in the box. I will probably fabricate something (the fans are also 12V, Pi only outputs 5V).
@PiDsPagePrototypes
3 ай бұрын
The woodgrain,... OMG yes please! And the one direct after would look great as an office PC replacement.
@zoey101dogwablog
3 ай бұрын
I have been DYING for a case like this for YEARS!
@leonkernan
3 ай бұрын
I spent way too much on my 1u rack mounting for my Pi’s, it’s going to have to last forever!
@jasondads9509
3 ай бұрын
have the north, i want the baby north too
@Vicshade
3 ай бұрын
I have the pironman 5 case but it cost less because I was on some kind of mailing list. I like that they put all the plug ins coming out the back unlike the 4 version. The case isn’t necessary but it’s kind of cool to play with.
@honestgoat
2 ай бұрын
You can get much better value to performance SBC's and Mini PC's now. And then their is the 2nd hand tiny/mini/micro market. You can get fully fledged VSFF PC's for half the price of a Pi with a case, card, and PSU. And they're twice as powerful. And x86 is so much more compatible. Personally I think R Pi's are a ripoff now. Especially outside the US or the EU. I believe their day has come and gone.
@IngwiePhoenix
3 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff - do you still have the Milk-V Mars? I have been curious to see which RasPi accessoires fit it. The Mars is super cheap and the JH7110 is nearing full kernel upstream support - could even happen this year! 6.11 will even bring PCIe. So it would be awesome to hear what fits on this thing and what does not. Thanks!
@milescarter7803
3 ай бұрын
You are making me want to dust off my H110STX motherboard with the scale accurate GT730 x8 GPU in a PCIe to M.2 adapter. And print one of these cases a little bigger.
@Lokaminiac
3 ай бұрын
Minolta camera?! omg.... wondering how many people know...that's the great grandfather of today's all Sony A7x digital cameras. Those were the days...
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