As much as I'm inquisitive and intrigued with Framer's interesting technique of developing websites, Webflow remains the preferable alternative.
@FluxAcademy
Ай бұрын
It's good to review what's out there, periodically
@thebelguinha
Ай бұрын
I really see Framer growing next years and being a strong competitor to Webflow. It's so easier than Webflow to make animations and effects. You feel the website is more polished and well finished in less time spent. Webflow may still be better for more complex projects, but I really see Framer getting to that point at some time.
@FluxAcademy
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. We're hearing a lot of similar reflections to this.
@crisdimarco
Ай бұрын
Hi Ran, hi Matt; I've done two Webflow masterclass courses with Ran, and one Framer course with Matt, and it's a real challenge to decide between the two tools. I am more and more inclined to use Webflow because the approach with which it is used, and the way of creating that you have to use, remains fundamentally the one that respects the HTML and CSS criteria, and from a professional point of view I consider it better. At the same time Framer is fascinating because it allows you to create from scratch sometimes without even using Figma. Quite a dilemma. Congratulations to all of you at Flux Academy because you have been and still are a real resource for me. Greetings from Italy.
@FluxAcademy
Ай бұрын
Thanks Cris!!💜
@calbiecreative3555
Ай бұрын
Webflow for me on this one! You can definitely see the maturity of the platform in how fewer "hacks" were needed to achieve a very high-quality result, even fairly far into the responsive process. That being said, Framer did exceptionally well and it's a much younger player in this part of the market so huge KUDOS to the folks behind that excellent platform. I personally find Webflow to still be a much better platform overall to manage large sites just because of classes alone, never mind the other stuff. Another thing to note is that both Ran and Matt are AWESOME at what they do... I would have probably gotten stuck on the inverted corners and made Webflow look like a complete failure! And Matt's handling of the horizontal scroll showed some seriously sharp thinking in my opinion. High fives all around guys!
@zinzamailer1601
Ай бұрын
If you will specialize in designing landing pages and sales funnels, which one do you prefer with your experience? If you will provide it as a service to customers, which tool is better?
@calbiecreative3555
Ай бұрын
@@zinzamailer1601 Either platform could easily work for landing pages. I typically build informational business websites and not "sales funnels" exactly, but my biggest differentiator when it comes to Webflow is the sheer power under the hood (classes that makes it SUPER easy to make global changes, components, a hugely flexible CMS) and the ease of hooking in custom JS and CSS to overcome most native limitations. Landing pages being just one page, it's not going to be as important to use a tool like Webflow because some of its biggest strengths lie in when websites become much more complex - Framer will easily work just as well if not even better depending on what you need to build. It's not without its frustrations (there are couple major headaches with it, such as its hosting costs especially compared to Framer, and native limitations with CMS collection nesting (only one nested collection per page, with a total max of only 20 CMS collections per page). Overall, one of the common threads with either platform is who's using the tool. Designers that are used to using software like Figma will very quickly find their feet with Framer, while Webflow has a steeper learning curve (which I think is actually one of its benefits) which is a bit more developer-oriented.
@FluxAcademy
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@saiful_islam_munna
Ай бұрын
Framer is quickly becoming a strong competitor to Webflow. It's easier to create animations and polished websites with Framer, saving time. While Webflow handles complex projects better.
@felcastt
Ай бұрын
Exactly.
@chaitanyabidkar3196
Ай бұрын
Love the way no-code is advocated here
@Boulepraline
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video ! Is it possible to have a link to the Figma file to train and try to reproduce it ? Thanks !
@WhiskeyThieves
Ай бұрын
All I have to say about this debate is that Matt has a fantastic mustache and hair
@FluxAcademy
Ай бұрын
Mustach > Webflow + Framer.
@MattBruntonUK
Ай бұрын
You're such a flirt.
@benkleman
Ай бұрын
You should create a design tutorial!
@johanvanwambeke723
22 күн бұрын
For Webflow : Going with a cliping mask would have been the way. They can be responsive depending on hwo you built them.
@moitreegraph9
17 күн бұрын
can ran teach how to build the inverted corner... how to bring an anchor point as svg
@josevillalobos8030
Ай бұрын
guys, Flux Academy rules!
@ytg2468
5 күн бұрын
The competior of framer is figma
@filetmignon9978
Күн бұрын
No. Figma isn't interested in becoming a dev tool. They're a design and prototyping tool, and the best at it
@Waqar_Naqshbandi
Ай бұрын
Can someone tell me how the positioned those inverted corners?
@FluxAcademy
Ай бұрын
Absolute positioning
@Waqar_Naqshbandi
Ай бұрын
@@FluxAcademy Can we please get a tutorial for this 🥺
@jippalippa
Ай бұрын
is framer EASY ENOUGH for a person with no experience? I'd like to build a very simple portfolio website with a few json animations (I'm an animator myself). I tried opening webflow but I was totally overwhelmed. Thanks.
@AmbroseAndreano
Ай бұрын
As someone who has experience with both Webflow and Framer, and who is also part of the Flux community, I’ll answer your question by saying that it’s all a matter of preference in how you enjoy actually building a website. I did not have experience many years ago, and I wandered into Webflow before even using a design tool like Figma. Learning how to build in Webflow first made Framer seem alien because of how different it is. In Webflow you use the interactions panel for animations, and in Framer you use Figma style components which can be nested behind multiple pages. Framer has a canvas and Webflow doesn’t. Framer uses React and Framer Motion, Webflow is more traditional and is easily paired with GSAP. Both are advanced tools with steep learning curves for beginners, not just Webflow. You can learn any of this. Every tool has a learning curve and you of course need to learn the UI of whatever tool you use. If you like coding and have a more text input-based approach to building websites, Webflow will feel more comfortable. If you are more comfortable with design tools using a canvas, Framer is going to be more enjoyable. Most things you can do in both tools, so it all comes down to what you enjoy more.
@FluxAcademy
Ай бұрын
"Every tool has a learning curve..." Exactly. Thanks for the detailed comment Ambrose.
@jippalippa
Ай бұрын
@@AmbroseAndreanoYes, but I was wondering which one made the most sense to learn for an animator with 0 web design experience. Thanks
@AmbroseAndreano
Ай бұрын
@@jippalippa try Framer and see if you’re overwhelmed. If you are, then it’s just the learning curve you don’t like and not the tool.
@wendysanchez13
6 күн бұрын
Yes, I finished my portfolio (from scratch) within 3 days and I have zero Framer knowledge I just watch a few tutorials here in youtube
@MovieFantasy_415
Ай бұрын
can i get the font name that used in hero section (that bold large font)
@angelova.nikoleta.design
Ай бұрын
Yes, Webflow for the win. Lovely breakdown! 🔥So easy to put things together. Framer is still bugging my brain with the dilemma: is it a design tool or a website builder.
@isabellelee7750
Ай бұрын
이걸 보니 웹플로우로 배워야하나 싶다
@JesseHof
Ай бұрын
저도 웹플로우를 써요. 진짜 재밌어요. 아마 미래에 프레이머도 배우고 싶어요
@Jaa_morant
Ай бұрын
Do I need to study these programs? Can’t they offer something that Photoshop can’t?
@michaelomodele1240
Ай бұрын
If you want to go into web development, yes. They're different tools than Photoshop and used for different things.
@FluxAcademy
Ай бұрын
Photoshop is image editing software. Webflow and Framer are visual development tools for creating websites.
@nasimmahamud6304
Ай бұрын
Who want remix link? we want remix link.
@davidcapuzzo
18 күн бұрын
Webflow won
@Kensingtonhawk
Ай бұрын
These are all so easy with elementor lol
@AmbroseAndreano
Ай бұрын
*cracks fingers, opens up Wordpress* Watch me build this in under 2 hours *computer freezes and blows up*
@creativegabe
Ай бұрын
WP eats ass and is outdated bro.
@jenniferl.9947
Ай бұрын
@AmbroseAndreano yeah, that checks out. 😂
@FluxAcademy
Ай бұрын
HAHAHAHA
@Grapfy
Ай бұрын
😂 Wordpress ! 👎🏽
@turaluix
Ай бұрын
So Framer still sucks
@CarlosGomesCabral
Ай бұрын
Not at all. Matt actually accomplished more in these two hours.
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