100% of your money could not re-pay back to our Savior the price He has paid for us! Surrender your life to Him!
@paulrock4816
7 жыл бұрын
Jesus said no one will give without being repaid an hundred fold, I always say...He gave his best, we should always give our best....
@jjohngolden5273
6 жыл бұрын
Amen to that sister, We owe Him our total allegiance and submission.
@rebeccavess7496
5 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@JonathanGrandt
5 жыл бұрын
Sara Meza you do not owe God.
@serujioduarutejr.2275
4 жыл бұрын
👍
@CWJ0725
8 жыл бұрын
One thing for sure: Everything we own belong to God.
@danielwilkinson1024
6 жыл бұрын
J, I know your comment was a year ago, but the idea and mindset of "everything we own belongs to God." is a wrong mindset. If everything we have already belongs to God then that would mean that we have nothing that we can give to God, and in return He cannot Bless anything we try to give to Him. It would be just a returning of what was stolen or borrowed from it's rightful owner.
@benjaminmarker
6 жыл бұрын
Well not really. Everything I own is mine..
@louisanthony266
6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Wilkinson I feel you’re over thinking the quote. ‘God provides’ for us, therefore everything belongs to him. It starts with God, not with us, God has given first. Just like scripture says ‘he first loved us’
@benjaminmarker
6 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't he provide for the starving children around the third world?
@JV-qb5pr
6 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Christensen Please ask GOD, we obviously don't have the answer. Starving children are one of the worst situations on the Earth. Peace.
@MissEnna48
5 жыл бұрын
My father always said this. My mother was so giving of herself and loved to give. Probably why dad reminder her once in a while to take it easy lol But seriously, mom also used to say that the Lord loves a cheerful giver. :) Mom and dad balanced each other out spiritually. I was so blessed. I miss them.
@Lazarusrizing
9 жыл бұрын
"Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." - 2 Corinthians 9:7. Listen carefully to Chan. A lot people tithe because they have the law on their mind which they're mixing with grace. Paul expands on this mixing in the Book of Romans. So we should give out of love, but not out of compulsion as the scripture says. It's pride that keeps many from seeing that. Because it makes them think they are somehow "approved" by God, when you are approved and accepted in Christ because He already did it all.
@SprayTanning2002
9 жыл бұрын
Amen! That's what should be preached in our churches today. Instead they read the scripture written to and for Isreal (Malachi 3:8 and 3:10) Paul made it very clear on how we should give. We are either under the curse of the Law, or we are under Grace. If you choose the law, you better follow it 100% or there is no blessing, only a curse Galations 3,4 and 5 make that very clear. Thanks for speaking the truth.
@tweakmeup1
9 жыл бұрын
Spray Tanning You seemed to be avoiding the Book of Malachi, I wonder why? But you are right, Malachi was written for God's people (The Jews or Israel as you say). In Romans 11, the Apostle Paul explained the gospel to the gentiles, saying that they can be saved by being "grafted in". Do you know what this means? This means that we gentiles should become Jews by heart, when it comes to obedience to God. I commend you for your knowledge of the scripture, and I recommend that you pursue to understand the scriptures even more. Because the wisdom that you will gain from it is greater than any worldly wealth that this world could ever offer. Now "Giving" is just one way to show that we have faith in God, because there are many more gifts, that the spirit gives us. "We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith; if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully." - Apostle Paul (Rom 12:6-8) So if you have the gift of "Giving", Then, give generously because the Lord commends those who gives everything they have to God. (See Mark 12:42-44) Now Galatians (my favorite book in the NT) was written for gentiles that came to believe in the Lord. However, Paul still told them, that "if they continue to live a sinful life, they will not inherit the Kingdom of God". Have you ever wonder why Paul told this to the "Christians" in Galatia? I thought they are already saved by becoming a "Christian". Could it be that, there is more to the Law than meets the eye? As Paul said in Romans 3:31, that "Christians should uphold the Law". So why disregard Malachi? God was just pouring out his heart to His people in this book. Christians, Jew, Israel, Galatians and other gentiles who came to faith; these are all people of God. For in His eyes we are all the same. May you be blessed!
@SprayTanning2002
9 жыл бұрын
@ tweak Thank you for your response. I'm not avoiding Malachi. They seem to be avoiding the Book of Malachi. How many times have you heard them read Malachi 1:1? How many times have you heard them preach what the Tithe was and who was requied to Tithe? The Storehouse being the Church of today? My point is that we are no longer under the Law. If you teach, preach, practice the Tithe, then you should teach, preach and practice the other requirements of the law. How many times have you heard a preacher preach on circumcision? It's mentioned more than the Tithe? It's not only before the law (some say that the Tithe is not part of the law because it was part of the Covenant that Abraham made with Melchizedek, even though Jesus tied it to the law in Matthew 23) What about the Covenant the he made on circumcision in Gen 17? Why do you avoid that? How about Leviticus? I'm sorry, but Jesus made a new agreement (a new Covenant) Human Efforts will not cut it, he's interested in the Heart. That's why Paul said in 2 Corinthians 9:7 That each man should examine his heart and decide what to give, for God loves a cheerful giver. That's what the Good News of Jesus is all about. Many (not all) of the preachers who preach what I refer to as the "Tithe Lie" are the ones who are robbing. On reference to Romans 3, Paul must have contridicted himself when he said in Galations the we are not to be under the curse of the Law, right? Of course not. Read it in its context. I'm sorry, but Tithing is wrong and should not be accepted in the church today. It would be the same as if we attempted an animal sacrifice on Sunday in church. God Bless you as well. Have a Blessed Day.
@tweakmeup1
9 жыл бұрын
Spray Tanning 1 Corinthians 7:19 "Circumcision" is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts. Hebrews 10:1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming-not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same "sacrifices" repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. This 2 scripture clearly puts an end to their respective subjects (Sacrifice and Circumcision). But I have never encountered a scripture that clearly puts an end to tithing, have you? (Please correct me if I am wrong in this. I would really appreciate being corrected!) You say; "Tithing is wrong", but God puts "Tithes and Offerings" in the same context. So if the Tithing is wrong then Offering is wrong too; and so is Giving and so are Church Collections. But the apostles clearly encourages believers to give generously and cheerfully because this is the same character of God when it comes to giving (Romans 12, 1 Cor 16 and 2 Cor 8) and Christians should return the gratitude by faith in actions. The context that "We are no longer under the Law" simply means that we are not supposed to sin any more. Romans 6:14. It doesn't mean that we can just disregard the law because we are not under it. Rather we are to uphold the law because of our faith in Christ (Rom 3). I am myself a volunteer worker of our local church. And I know how helpful those collections are in helping the church to continue its operations in bringing the lost into repentance. This is not to boast, but out of the gratitude in heart and with the guidance that the spirit that leads me, I am able to give more than 10% of my personal income to the church. And if I could give more, I'd love to give more. Because for me Tithes and Offerings (or whatever term people may call it) is not about the money, It's all about the gratitude on what God has done to me. Because I know, I could never ever repay Jesus for saving me. For me, Giving is all about the love for God and the love for the lost. I hope that you have been blessed and I know that you will be. May the peace of the Lord be with you!
@SprayTanning2002
9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input. Even though I will never, ever agree with you. You claim that you have never encountered where scripture says the tithe ended? Like I said before, Paul gave specific instructions on giving. Jesus died on the cross. New Covenant, New Agreement. Have you read any scripture that says Slavery ended? Do you live by ever aspect of the law? You are wasting your time. I am a Christian first and am grateful for the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross do that we don't have to be under the curse of the law. Galatians 3. My father was a Conservative Baptist Preacher who graduated from Dallas Seminary. He was brought up, trained with the Tithe Lie. I'm proud to say that now he knows the truth and gives as Jesus instructed us to give. I'm glad that there are others like the Late Dr J Vernon McGee and Dr Erwin Lutzer from Moody. It's good to see those who are honest and understand that giving comes from the heart and not from a man made effort. I refuse to insult Jesus by tipping him. He paid far to great of price. I give generously with a cheerful heart as I am instructed to do. Jesus said in Matthew 6 that when we give, the Left Hand does not Know what the Right Hand is doing. Nobody except God knows what I give, or ever will. Have a great rest of your week. I pray that will be free from the burden of the law and human efforts. God Bless
@noahsams
8 жыл бұрын
He is NOT against tithing, he is explaining that it is not a COMMAND, but rather something that we do to give thanks to God.
@timeday6420
7 жыл бұрын
its ok if you give 10 percent and its ok if some one else give 2 percent . they are free to give there is no curse and paul never told any body give to show you love GOD HE SAID GOD LOVES A cheer ful giver
@rainywilliams1923
7 жыл бұрын
The Bible does NOT say tithing is something we do to give thanks to God. The Bible tells us to give ourselves to God, not just a measly 10% of the money we make. The Bible does not say whoever gives to this particular church or that particular church gives to God.. It says whoever gives. When we give to the poor, we give to God. MOST of these "so-called" Christian churches give VERY LITTLE to the poor. Do the research, and you'll discover the truth.
@joysingkey28
7 жыл бұрын
I find that the New Testament church is anti tithing intruiging when Jesus Himself says in the New Testament, the Brit Hadashah in Luke 11:42, "...For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone." note "without leaving the others undone." (Referring to the tithe, whose very heart is one of gratitude and understanding of building up the church within our means to provide the practical as well as the spiritual)
@rainywilliams1923
7 жыл бұрын
Jesus was talking to the religious Jewish unbelieving leaders, not Christians. The Jews, before Jesus's resurrection were still living under the law. They were first called Christians in Antioch. This is when the Christian Age began. If you are still living under the law, there are over 600 other Old Testament laws you should be following along with tithing. Don't forget to follow them as well. Today, we are to give according to what God has purposed in our hearts. When we give to the poor we give to Christ. Is your church giving to the poor as it should or is most of the money it receives going elsewhere? Think about it. If it is, good for your church and good for you!! If not, well.....
@joysingkey28
7 жыл бұрын
But he is because Christianity is Messainic Judaism
@christophercobern3630
8 жыл бұрын
He doesn't say no to tithing. He says that tithing is something you don't have to do. Looking at the life of Francis Chan you can see practical tithing lived out in every single aspect of his life. Not a command, but out of love. And he has been blessed because of it. Francis Chan is the real MVP.
@noahsams
8 жыл бұрын
Very well explained Chris.
@queilabrito23
7 жыл бұрын
exactly!
@lopecm331
7 жыл бұрын
Christopher Cobern amen I agree
@johnmurdonicolson8852
7 жыл бұрын
Christopher Cobern 🙏
@davestauffer8672
7 жыл бұрын
Christopher Cobern u are splitting hairs. He does in fact say "no" in that this is the answer when asked must we tithe? But the spirit of your comment is solid. Chan does indeed dispell the notion of a mandate fixed on a number.
@shelterstories
7 жыл бұрын
I started reading my Bible after I retired and saw things no Pastor I had heard seemed to be teaching. Then I discovered Francis Chan, and he was teaching the Bible! Wow! God doesn't want your tithe! He wants YOU! He wants your HEART! Because if he has that, then he has your possessions as well. Zaccheaus didn't offer to TITHE! He offered to make restitution for his gluttony and thievery, and that was a much bigger deal. It showed his heart was totally repentant. Jesus wants us to fall out of love with money, and fall into love with Him and the Kingdom. You can tithe and hate God at the same time. Many people do.
@rosegreen8441
5 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@Milosca47
3 жыл бұрын
AMEN !!!
@selanakao4059
6 жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem with giving but the demanding of tithing and I thank God for this message as a confirmation that agrees with God's spirit within me. I joined my husband over nine years now with the SDA and I am never at peace with the ten percent giving on top of that offering. I am at peace with giving cheerfully how God wants it and the amount every big or small I know without a doubt God delights in it. I enjoy giving not being demanded. As you walk with Him daily, He will show you His ways... it's beautiful and giving will be a pleasure. Thank you for sharing that...I agree. We've been redeemed. Praise the Lord.
@seanfisher8838
8 жыл бұрын
The giving in the New Testament was always to help those in need.
@horace411
5 жыл бұрын
If you can not give money to your church, give your time. Help and volunteer.
@RyanEngelbrecht5
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that does not work. God did not give alternatives in the Bible. If you cannot tithe because you are struggling financially, you are struggling financially because you are not tithing. Not tithing is also known in the Bible as stealing from God, and the book of Revelation describes how thieves will inherit the Lake of Fire.
@AKMDUB
5 жыл бұрын
@@RyanEngelbrecht5 False, that is a poor exegesis of scripture. Stewardship is important, but the tithe that God commanded was never monetary, and it was that way for a reason. Tithing does not somehow bless you financially, if that's the case, why are there so many financially well off non Monetary tithers? The Malachi scripture of robbing God was addressing priest who were actually robbing God, and has zero correlation to the Ekklesia under the New Covenant.
@JuanPablo-ts4vd
5 жыл бұрын
R KegIII the widow gave everything. If she can so can we.
@eavymuturuh3717
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly R Keglll
@eddiesblacksmithingkjv9185
5 жыл бұрын
Giving is a blessing that God has given to us. If u are born again u should want to give it's a privilege. It should make u happy to give.
@marioincerti2167
8 жыл бұрын
Every single person who has commented has a teaching and understanding of scripture. Not to be judged or criticised. Giving. In despite of law and grace, NT or OT doesn't inhibit anyone from having a personal accountability to God. The will of God is simple. Live in a daily relationship with Jesus; love God, love people and share the gospel message for those that are lost so they find Jesus, the Saviour. There is no law or condemnation for those that live being lead by the Holy Spirit. So, even those that steal, destroy in sheep clothing are those left to Jesus to judge. If lead by the Spirit, we all will know what to do. The key is allowing the Holy Spirit take the lead over our flesh; self vs. What does Jesus want me to do. This is more where we battle in life. Get this right, we won't need to worry about if God will bless us if we do or don't. Just live in a daily relationship with Jesus and He will always be blessing you.
@MD-zy7ec
5 жыл бұрын
Actually, if someone is looking for a reason to not give and stumbles on this message by Francis Chan instead... I think that's a good thing.
@doublej1963
10 жыл бұрын
NOW ALLOW ME TO FINISH THIS VIDEO, AFTER THE CHURCH GATHERS ALL OF THIS MONEY, THEY SHOULD DO WHAT THE REAL CHURCH IN THE BOOK OF ACTS DID.......ACTS 4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. THEY DIDN'T GO BUY NICE CARS,HOMES OR JETS!
@felicianothorpe8998
7 жыл бұрын
They didn't use it for church building either.
@BreeziBri1028
7 жыл бұрын
BOOM
@deborahbrown2947
6 жыл бұрын
Yes amen
@vadimnesen8060
6 жыл бұрын
Feliciano Thorpe I agree but where are people to gather nowadays. You have to pay to even have big gatherings outside in some places
@anofritz
5 жыл бұрын
true
@bestillandlearn
9 жыл бұрын
When we first started going to church our our bills had no room for us to give 10%. However the Pastor said that our hearts were in the right place to give joyfully and willingly but also to take care of the needs of our immediate family. So we gave hours to our church in service areas, concession, transportation to others, cleaning, coaching, vbs etc. .....until we got out of some debt that allowed us to give more on the financial side as well.
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+bestillandlearn I think this is a small step in the right direction (away from legalism), but I imagine that if you have an "immediate" family, that you are pretty busy meeting their needs and giving hours of your time to the church is probably leaving you exhausted and compromising your health. Furhtermore, if the other church members are tithing, why should you work for free? Shouldn't the church PAY you, just like they pay the pastor?
@familiabonilla7646
6 жыл бұрын
Good job! Your full of treasure in heaven! And your heart is so beautiful!!
@AravaxElvor
5 жыл бұрын
Good on you! The church probably appreciated that more! And God certainly wouldn’t have had a problem with that! For God loves a cheerful giver!
@rebeccavess7496
5 жыл бұрын
That is good
@astcal
7 жыл бұрын
such a good message! Amen all the way.
@Analisa416
6 жыл бұрын
Thank God for Francis Chan. I have no problem with giving, but have financial strains just lost a job and just got my last check yesterday. I have gone to churches that beat you over the head with Malachi 3. I would feel guilty or get in fear that I wouldn't be blessed. They don't care if you aren't giving joyfully. I was struggling with this, just today and that is what brought me here. I knew if I tithed I wouldn't have enough for food, rent or my electric bill. I know my situation is temporary and God isn't putting me back under a curse because I am not giving money. Jesus paid it ALL He is my Lord, and my God and I will never be under the curse again. God took care of me when I had NOTHING, not one single dime to give him. He blessed me without me tithing. He even took care of me when I was in a dark place and didn't go to church for over a year. He showed his LOVE for me and didn't condemn me or punish me but loved me back to a relationship that includes church but goes far beyond that. I do believe as Christians we are caught up with thinking money is the only thing you can give. I think God would rather have 10% of your day than 10% of your money, which is harder to give...but maybe that's just me.
@genevalivingstone1929
9 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! It's hard for people to see that as new testament Christians we give out of our hearts of gratitude not out of compulsion!!! Forget an amount and give freely!!! Giving is NOT a check box that you feel great because you did it. You give because it's in you to do so!!! Why not give 20% or 40% why not just give to fill the needs of the church!!! Those who have much, much is required!! Those who have nothing to give need to be given to. - I do believe it's just that easy!!! Holy Spirit lead giving!!!
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+Geneva Livingstone Suppose we went along with what you are saying. Be sure to inform your pastor that those who collect the tithes are not allowed to own land or property.
@genevalivingstone1929
8 жыл бұрын
This message response has nothing to do with the message perhaps you should have responded to the first message. We are not bound by old testament laws and rituals. Those things were put in place then. If you are giving freely then what does having property have to do with anything???
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+Geneva Livingstone I assume you are responding to my comment about property. The point is that if you tithe, the person who receives the tithe (the church pastor or whomever) is NOT ALLOWED to own property according to the Bible. Pastors who preach tithing cannot have their cake and eat it too. If they are going to preach tithing, they need to present the whole picture and all the laws associated with tithing. And one of those laws is that the tithe collectors CANNOT own real estate.
@genevalivingstone1929
8 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!!!!
@hacksawridge6390
7 жыл бұрын
tithes and offerings aren't the same. what he is talking about isnt tithes actually but offerings. we give offerings as a symbol of our love but tithes as much as it must also come from a willing heart, is not the same as offerings. let's not confuse ourselves
@JoeRickards
8 жыл бұрын
You are such an inspiration to what a Godly marriage really is Francis and Lisa! Thank you!
@BlackJackKittykat
7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful message.Thanks for sharing.
@annuliokoye8444
9 жыл бұрын
Actually i think a lot of people are so stuck on the word "tithing". All he said was Jesus came and set an example. So in conclusion "Give God your Best". Some of us give 10% and we are like i never have to give again until its time to pay the next 10%. Break the bad habit, Live for God, Live selflessly. "Each one must give according to what he has set in his heart" ....Remember deeds don''t save you, so give all the 10% you want it doesn't mean you have done well in the eyes of God. Give yourself to the lord.
@pommevie1
11 жыл бұрын
"Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it." Malachi 3:10 :) Tithe. Trust God in this, that He will pour out so much blessing on you. Praise God!~* ^.^
@Herrera777
4 жыл бұрын
Amen to that. My wife and I been tithing since 2005 and our lives are totally blessed; both spiritually and financially.
@hgzacklan
9 жыл бұрын
What about the woman who gave her very last penny? Did she give ten percent? No! She gave 100%. God does not want 10% He wants it all!
@michaeladkins1407
8 жыл бұрын
+Howard Zacklan I would willingly offer to help, but for the sake of your comment... Do YOU give 100%? ALL, EVERY penny you have? Do you walk in with $1+ and leave with 0?? I understand the theme you are getting at, but I wanna know your answer... If you have money in your wallet, than don't attack someone else because they don't give every last penny to a church
@hogan1040
7 жыл бұрын
If one actually reads the story of the Widow's Mite in context - you need to start reading at Luke 20 - an entire CHAPTER earlier - to see why Jesus pointed her out. It is all one occurrence. Jesus is being challenged by the Pharisees at the Temple. They are trying to dishonor him in the eyes of the crowds. He refutes every challenges, shames them in turn, and finishes in 20:47 with accusing them of being those "who devour widows’ houses". Don't let the Chapter break throw you. Jesus immediately (Luke 21:1-4) proves his audacious and inflammatory accusation of the Scribes by pointing out how they had manipulated the poor - literally a widow in this case - to give beyond their means to HEROD'S TEMPLE a gold covered monstrosity that lacked both the ark and the presence of God. He is NOT commending the widow's generosity - he is proving his case to the crowd. Which prevents the enraged Scribes and Pharisees - shamed by Jesus in their own power center - from taking their revenge (probably a stoning). This passage has been so abused by Christian Religious Leaders (our modern scribes) to manipulate God's people to give to their religious edifices. They insist on taking it completely out of context so they can make it a "Give till it hurts" illustration rather than what Jesus intended - the opposite. The widow went home to starve with her children. Her last money thrown into a box that the Law states was for the feeding of WIDOWS and ORPHANS! All because a religious system had taught her she could win points with God by giving. Sick, really! If you still need more context, just keep reading! The immediate objection is that it takes money to run a temple complex. Jesus tell them it is going to be destroyed soon anyway. Luke 21:5-6: 5 Then, as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with beautiful stones and donations, He said, 6 “These things which you see-the days will come in which not one stone shall be left upon another that shall not be thrown down.”
@jqvvppdy
7 жыл бұрын
Brian Hogan Amen brother
@NefuSteel
7 жыл бұрын
Brian Hogan been saying this for the longest. Thank you for this. Amen m.
@andreyzagoruyko5390
7 жыл бұрын
WOW, Brother, Thank You! The Lord has use you to open my eyes to the truth of the matter. I will share this on my facebook page if you don't mind and will put your name down. I'll try to find your profile and link it if you have one. Anyways, THANK YOU!
@A-t-r-u-s
6 жыл бұрын
My pastor always says " We don't give to get nor do we got to give but we GET to give!". Very true, I get to give back to God, its not about the amount but the heart.
@johncarloperez13
12 жыл бұрын
I read this one book called "Crazy Love" by FRANCIS CHAN where he encourage everyone to give not only the "10%" but if possible, everything you have and see how God comes through in your life...
@naomia.medina1071
2 жыл бұрын
That's who he is talking about "Francis Chan" but Francis is saying that we need to give if possible more than our 10% and do it for love and loyalty not as obligation. I've been doing this and God has blessed me in so many unimaginable ways. Remember that He is the owner of the world and we as his children is pleased in providing what we need and often times spoils us with what we want. God is so good. I love Him.
@foreverlovegreen8843
8 жыл бұрын
with money without it. give everything you have to GOD.
@Babyboy_Matt
7 жыл бұрын
im crying right now hahahaha
@v.watson708
5 жыл бұрын
The Jesus IN me, loves The Jesus IN you! Francis Chan; keep speaking the TRUTH by and IN God's love.
@foosbiloxi7581
5 жыл бұрын
This is my problem with people who apply this conveniently - they say 100% belongs to God and give 0%.
@CaptainsneakyMk5
11 жыл бұрын
wow this vid has opened my eyes and given me a lot to think and pray about.
@benitocaspo8493
10 жыл бұрын
I give 10% when I can give more I do it.
@JayTheLordIsMySaviorJones
9 жыл бұрын
Amen I'm starting to like this Francis Chan I will definitely start to check out some more of his videos cus he's on point biblically, and that's very rare I hardly ever see it now days. Most people lack testing the spirits and just run with what their told so we have so many followers of men rather than followers of Christ. But this is exactly correct there is NO REQUIREMENT IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THAT SAYS WE HAVE to GIVE OR WE WONT BE BLESSED IF WE DONT. THIS MEANS FREELY GIVE IF ITS IN YOUR HEART. NOT BECAUSE YOUR PASTOR FORCED YOU TO. GREAT VIDEO I CHALLENGE ALL YOU NAY SAYERS TO THIS TRUTH OF GOD TO WATCH this VIDEO AND USE YOUR KJV TO FOLLOW ALONG. AMEN !!!!!
@Cmoni1111
9 жыл бұрын
Amen. Francis Chan is truly one of the last genuine shepherds of the flock.
@no1BIGT
9 жыл бұрын
Celeste D theres plenty genuine. They just don't have his fame.
@989787777778787
7 жыл бұрын
A few of them might be under your nose.
@sanjoserock1
6 жыл бұрын
When did the OT and NT become 2 separate books? Jonathan you are in ERROR but you will continue to miss out until you obey God in the area of stewardship. Tithing is a starting point.....your reluctance to do it reveals your heart. YOU DONT TRUST GOD WITH HIS MONEY!
@sanjoserock1
6 жыл бұрын
Celeste.....you dont get out much do you? This man is dangerous!
@DianaBranch
6 жыл бұрын
this is excellent..and this man has put action behind his words..he gave it all...he left a mega church in sure where money was flowing..but rather chose the simplicity of the GOSPEL...now am I saying all big churches are not in GODS will..no not at all..but this man practices what he preaches thereby giving GLORY TO THE GOD HE PREACHES ABOUT...kudos pastor
@dartin537
11 жыл бұрын
Great message!
@yolandajones6279
9 жыл бұрын
God bless you for this message. I needed to hear this. I keep hearing I am robbing God, but I have been abandoned by an unbeliever, and God understands my poverty! I give where I can, in my time, service, and money where I can, in and out of church!!
@mynameisnobody777
10 жыл бұрын
Michel Biesot With respect, can you please explain where the Bible says that Paul took tithings and offerings? Please be specific. Please substantiate and correlate your examples with reference to how those occasions connect with the Old Testament ordinance that God prescribed. Also, please explain where and when in the Bible that tithing changed from food to money given to apostles? Also, please explain why Paul would say to the Ephesians and Colossians that ALL of the ordinances of the Law had been nailed to the cross, taken out of the way, and why Hebrews 7 says that tithing was abolished, yet you believe tithing is still required. Please explain the source references for your doctrinal opinion here. I am very curious. Thanks.
@angelica21290
11 жыл бұрын
Amen Pastor Chan
@shonniebeenatural
7 жыл бұрын
wow i never saw it put this way before and it is true God looks at the heart and if our prayers are Lord with this money i put in bless it to help others that are down and out asking Lord i wanna be more like you and less like myself and seriously if we are just doing it because its a command and not heartfelt its not worth it ......thanks for this message
@frog9990
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother! I have been preaching this fact for years. Those pastors who have listened, confirmed it by way of the Scriptures and stopped passing the offering plates have discovered that the resources of the church increased. Bottom line: We are to be New Covenant Christians operating under grace (Cheerful givers) and not Old Covenant Jews operating under the law (Tithing). The 89 dislikes on your post are most likely from hirelings that seek to protect their incomes. I challenge them to read the life of George Muller who NEVER made his needs known to any man and ONLY to God. Muller supported and ministered to thousands of orphans.
@RyanEngelbrecht5
5 жыл бұрын
David Hall Jesus was Jewish. The Bible is Jewish. The Gospel is Jewish. Israel is the focus of the Bible. Read Matthew 5:17-19.
@CeCeW51
8 жыл бұрын
I just love Francis Chan. He truly walks what he talks. He is on point here about tithing. I've heard a similar message from a different preacher a long time ago. I'm just really surprised that some churches aren't getting the message. Read your Bible people!
@richrochford7584
8 жыл бұрын
Great video
@BRUTHAWAR
7 жыл бұрын
GREAT MESSAGE!!
@Tomsjamb
10 жыл бұрын
Who ever sews sparingly.sews from the heart! you are to cheerfully give! but first you must give your whole heart to Jesus, then you will receive, but truly giving is from the heart and when you enter into ministry you are to sell all you have give to the poor and then go out into the world. The Holy Spirit will supply all your needs if you trust in him and lean not on your own understanding it is true walking with Jesus will only prove your heart is right or wrong with the Lord.
@Giovanniherrera74
8 жыл бұрын
he's stating the fact that it's not about percentage, it's not about tithing to go to heaven. it's about tithing out of love. tithing so you can be like jesus, help others, give with love etc. tithing is important. it's not only about the money either.
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+GIO “GH1FILMS” HERRERA Tell me where in the BIBLE did Jesus in the NT give away money to the poor? I can't off the top of my head think of any examples. He healed people of problems that were keeping them from working and providing for themselves.
@MrScott22867
8 жыл бұрын
+Sandra Clark , Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21, Paul mentions giving to the poor in 1 Corinthians 13:3 and Galatians 2:10. Jesus also had Judas as his treasurer, who carried the money bag, Do you not think he used that to give to the poor ?
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+Scott Tackett Yes, I suppose he may have, although it is not recorded in Scripture! But I am pretty sure that when he met a poor person he didn't send them to the temple or church to get help. He would have helped them himself. I am all for helping others, I am just against a non-Biblical tithe when we DO NOT have a temple system any longer.
@mrmuchacho2816
7 жыл бұрын
Sandra Clark it cost money to operate a church , utilities , building maintenance, property upkeep, aswell as durable goods such as computers,furniture, etc also if you have a full time minister. Then he and his family need to eat, I do not at all mind tithing , I also give freely to other charitys, so many selfproclaimed christians can not seem to part with their money
@wearesavedbygodsgrac
7 жыл бұрын
Mr Muchacho do you even understand tithing? did you know there was 3 different tithes mentioned? And the Levitical tithe was given to the Levites who weren't allowed to have any inheritance and they even had to give 10% if what they earned. The disciples earned their living off of being fed and housed as they traveled
@dorisspeiginerwheeler7468
8 жыл бұрын
Francis Chan is encouraging the giving of tithes, and offerings based on love, and appreciation not grudgingly, or with feelings of being manipulated. Like all things the Lord encourages us to do, all things we do must be real, love based!
@jojomarie66
12 жыл бұрын
Pastor Chan-YOU'RE SPOT ON RIGHT!! Bless you, may God direct you where you and what you are to do. You're are a devout follower of Gods truth. Bless you! Tithing was never for the Gentiles. If you tithe you are placed back under the Law so you are required to keep all the Law or you are cursed! Give don't tithe, be free for God loves a cheerful giver! Be free!
@Tedthib
10 жыл бұрын
What I get from Chan is that we should be giving much more than a tithe. Its a heart/ sanctification issue- as we become like Christ we enjoy giving more and more. 10% isn't a cap on giving, thank Jesus, we are allowed to give much more! We must be careful not to search the scriptures to find what we want it to say, and be obedient to what it actually says. Great video!
@thenewcortez
10 жыл бұрын
He believes you are not required to give a certain amount. He does not believe we are commanded to give ten percent. He is not against giving,
@TJL-z8p
9 жыл бұрын
I agree. The title on this video needs to be edited.
@murfkuhls3494
6 жыл бұрын
thenewcortez That's not what the bible says.
@Saviiq
6 жыл бұрын
thenewcortez Facts
@murfkuhls3494
6 жыл бұрын
thenewcortez That teaching is wrong. The WHOLE bible is for everyone. When did this " who was he talking to" start.? Malachi 3:8 is for us today.
@mariannehay3410
6 жыл бұрын
Tithe meaning is tenth. The bible commands us to tithe. This guy is wrong!!
@livvytodlivvytodd2379
11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this insight!!! I never understood why God would want us to be hungry, not pay our necessary bills, but give 10% to the church when we just can't afford to. I do give, but I give from my heart what I can. Not what's left over, but what I can!
@sowanabisram1020
6 жыл бұрын
True words God bless you Mr chan
@triciaviloria8510
6 жыл бұрын
Tithing is our responsibility. In Malachi, the Lord said "BRING" our tithes. That is not at all in contrast with what Jesus said "GIVE" according to your hearts' desire. Remember, we csnnot give what is not ours. We give out of the 90% that we own. But the 10% should be brought to the Lord's temple.
@ellisonmarshall5996
4 жыл бұрын
All the verses in the N.T. convey that we should give to take care of other people's needs. Read carefully the Beatitudes in Luke 6. The context is ministering to others, as individuals. Continue on the 1 Corinthians 16: 1-3, II Corinthians, chapters 8 and 9 which all instruct that the context is giving to help others. Giving is good and right but there is no N.T. scripture instructing us to give to a local church. Malachi is written to the Jews, not the church. Hebrews 7: 5 says that the Levitical priests had a "commandment" to receive tithes from their brothers. There is no such commandment in the N.T. Even Abraham did not tithe as we think. Hebrews 7 tells us that he gave his tithe out of the "spoils," not out of everything that he had. AND, he gave voluntarily and only one time that we know of. The N.T. teaches us that giving is good but we give "as unto the Lord" to whomever we choose, especially to those in need. That's the message of Luke 6:38....not what some pastors pronounce to their congregations.
@tommybaker7075
10 жыл бұрын
the whole law system was never meant for us to made righteous, but faith in Christ Jesus!!!! the law was a tutor unitil Christ the Seed of David came on the scene and fulfill the law and to deliver and free us from the bondage of the law. holding one part of the law such as tithing makes us subject to keep the whole law. Jesus asked the pharisees did you not read in the law what David did when he was hungry, how he ate the show bread, which according to law was only for the priest!!! Saints we got to get past this matter its souls needing Christ and we cant save them by the law but only faith in Christ JESUS.
@AmandaWait
10 жыл бұрын
Hallelujah! AMEN!
@tommybaker7075
10 жыл бұрын
Praise God!!!
@blessedfavored658
6 жыл бұрын
Tommy baker : Amen
@David8024667
11 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better, myself. Everything you said is true. And, I like how you put that ...
@MiyagiNariyoshi
7 жыл бұрын
Tithing is a way that I've surrendered a huge stronghold of my life over to God. Money and materialism used to consume me. Tithing was the starting point to God showing me that i can give, even outside of the tithe, even in times when I fell like I can't. I make less money now, but I've never felt more at peace financially in my life.
@LydK443
7 жыл бұрын
I only know you can't out give God.
@AmandaWait
10 жыл бұрын
_When they came to Capernaum, those who collected the double-drachma tax approached Peter and said, "Doesn't your Teacher pay the double-drachma tax?" "Yes," he said. When he went into the house, Jesus spoke to him first, "What do you think, Simon? Who do earthly kings collect tariffs or taxes from? From their sons or from strangers?" "From strangers," he said. " _*_THEN THE SONS ARE FREE_*_ ," Jesus told him_. ~Matthew 17:24-26 :D :D :D _If you are really eager to give, _*_it isn't important how much_*_ you are able to give. God wants you to give what you have, not what you don't have. Of course, I don't mean you should give so much that you suffer from having too little. I only mean that there should be some equality_. ~2 Cor 8:12-13
@Aoraki09Cottage
9 жыл бұрын
Amanda Wait Hi Amanda like the above but remember Luke 12:48 "Much is required of whom much is given" A lot of us should be giving a lot more, cheerfully because Christ first gave it to us and it is our privilege to share what God has given us with others. esp remembering Matt 25 Who ever give to the least of these my (persecuted -implied) brothers, gives it unto me - We could remember those Christians in Iraq & Syria in our prayers & giving.
@AmandaWait
9 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave. I know we are to give. I am not saying we are not to help others. Just because I do not believe in tithing, does not mean I give nothing. I am a Christian under grace and not under the law. I know what the word of God says about giving. But what does the Scripture say? Throw out the slave and her son, for the son of the slave will never inherit with the son of the free woman. Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman. •~Galatians 4:30-31 "But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work. As it is written: “He has dispersed abroad, He has given to the poor; His righteousness endures forever.” Now may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, supply and multiply the seed you have sown and increase the fruits of your righteousness, while you are enriched in everything for all liberality, which causes thanksgiving through us to God. ~•2 Cor 10:6-11 In Acts 15 the Apostles and elders and the *HOLY SPIRIT* decided to lay upon the Gentile converts no greater burden but these necessary things. *Holy Spirit* did not let them list tithing in that letter or many other things that legalists try to yoke us with. "Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.” Acts 15 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you *abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality* . If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell. 30 So when they were sent off, they came to Antioch; and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the letter. 31 When they had read it, they rejoiced over its encouragement. I am free to give as I have decided in my heart to give. Giving and helping is not always money. We bear one another's burdens in many ways. Be like the good Samaritan. Bear one another's burdens and so fulfill the law of Christ. We are a New Covenant people, set free from the law. We keep Jesus' commandments by giving food to the hungry, drink to the thirsty, clothing to the naked or in any other selfless, loving act to another human being, helping those in need and thereby loving Him. Bear one another's burdens and so fulfill the law of Christ. Love fulfills the law. We are not children of the bondwoman (Old Covenant), but we are children of the freewoman.(New Covenant). 2 Corinthians 9:7 You must each make up your own mind as to how much you should give. Don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure. For God loves the person who gives cheerfully. 2 Corinthians 8:12-13 If you are really eager to give, it isn't important how much you are able to give. God wants you to give what you have, not what you don't have. Of course, I don't mean you should give so much that you suffer from having too little. I only mean that there should be some equality. Stand fast and do not be entangled with a yoke of bondage.
@CharlesFarnes
12 жыл бұрын
and that only happens when God changes our heart, as we see how much God has done for us, and want to be like him and give back because of the gratitude we have for him.
@maxwellpowers6652
11 жыл бұрын
WOW!!! THIS GUY IS LEGIT!!!! I started my videos on youtube because I was angry hearing all these pastors command tithing!!! THUMBS WAY UP!!!
@jeffvincent6690
8 жыл бұрын
Bro. Wilkinson (I was told this, if wrong please correct me) never passed an offering plate. He had a poor box in the back. He expected God "to provide for his needs" and surprise surprise, the bills were always met! Imagine that! A pastor believing in t he Word of God! Sad really.
@karydanzine916
8 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yep :-)
@hrngofcr1
5 жыл бұрын
Because some individual gave their money in order for those bills to be paid. Freely give freely you will receive.
@teewoody3780
10 жыл бұрын
It's so sad, so many people are being manipulated by tithing.
@1971AEDWARDS
10 жыл бұрын
They are trying to buy their way into heaven.
@XxYukaaXD
10 жыл бұрын
1971AEDWARDS No. Tithing is not a way tot guarantee a persons way to heaven but to contribute to the church and to help it to grow.
@1971AEDWARDS
10 жыл бұрын
LisaChristianJesus, can U show the scriptures to back that up or commands a Christian to TITHE, not give?
@bucketspree4952
5 жыл бұрын
the great thing about it, is you don't have to tithe to a church to give to God directly helping people who need it (poor, widows, orphans, people in hard times) is "pure and undefiled religion" [James 1:27] I would encourage anyone conflicted about tithing, to pray every day of the week before you tithe, for God to highlight other ways you could be giving, perhaps of your time or other resources.
@LIESSUCK69
11 жыл бұрын
Thank You!!!!!!!!! Finally! Someone reads Malachi instead feeling guilty by a verse ponded into them taken out of context!!! Praise God!
@bebrave9108
7 жыл бұрын
pastor Chan is so balanced. remember, this man has given away nearly all his earthly riches to God. he absolutely gets it
@hopefullsinner3186
7 жыл бұрын
I have been in dept most of my life.. I have only been able to get out of dept when I've been tithing. A coincidence? Personally I don't think so....
@rachelharris4144
4 жыл бұрын
When you give to God, whether it’s 10% or less or more, he will bless you. God looks at the heart. I was taught that tithing 10% is the correct thing to do. However, there were times in my life when I did not have that to give as I needed to feed my family and pay bills. Sometimes I had to rely on God to provide food as I did not have enough money but this taught me Faith and Trust in Him. I gave in other ways as and when I could and God always looked after me. The New Testament says “Freely, freely you have received, freely, freely give”. It is freedom in the area of giving. God wants us to give from our hearts graciously and freely without bondage. I don’t count what I give now. I just ask God ‘How much and where or whom’ he would like me to give. I keep my dialogue open with God as he can tell me anything at any time. ❤️ God is enough for me ❤️
@olayinkashola
4 жыл бұрын
So the money just fell out of heaven ?
@EdwardGFunk
7 жыл бұрын
The guy that posted this video and gave it the title needs to check his heart... Very misleading and could lead thousands of people down the wrong road.
@bucketspree4952
5 жыл бұрын
it's definitely a clickbait title but people that are swayed only by a title of a video instead of listening to the content of the message, are already down the wrong road
@JS-vk9zp
5 жыл бұрын
yes but doesn’t mean the poster of this video should be ok with potentially affirming a lost person’s ill conceived notions about the Truth. I agree that title is garbage.
@CarlosG0m3z
3 жыл бұрын
God blesses a cheerful giver.. i think thats the promise we have if we choose to give, but if we choose not to give its okay as well.
@crunkin1t590
6 жыл бұрын
I believe we should all stop seeking answers from a pastor and read the scripture for ourselves. God will help you dissect the word and give you wisdom the way he sees fit for YOU. Not taking anything away from Francis Chan. He is awesome and has helped me through alot. I just think we should jump into the word as much as we humanly can.
@lauraelizabethbrown
8 жыл бұрын
Ten percent is a recommendation to help you make sure you're giving something to God. It doesn't sound like Francis Chan is against tithing, he's against believing that you are required to tithe. If anything Francis tithes more hardcore than we do!! On one of the books he wrote he set it up so that all of the money (over a million bucks) would go to some charity to further the kingdom. Because he's well known and successful he was worried about becoming a selfish materialistic person so he did this on purpose.
@helenwilliamson8283
6 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why if the New Testament Believers were mostly Gentiles and had never been under the command to tithe why didnt Paul give more teaching on tithing actually I don't think he ever talked on tithing he said to give but he said nothing about tithing. If not tithing would cause New Testament Christians to be cursed with a curse certainly he would have included that in his teachings.
@jeffreybarruga257
8 жыл бұрын
Malachi 3:8 "Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. "But you ask, 'How are we robbing you?' "In tithes and offerings.
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+Jeffrey Barruga Why don't you try reading more than 3 verses at a time. Read the entire book of Malachi and you will see who the LORD was really admonishing. It was not and is not the congregation. It was the Levite priests.
@MrBaz278
8 жыл бұрын
Sandra Clark well said'
@jeffreybarruga257
8 жыл бұрын
Ok...fine...don't pay your tithe. I just put it out there simply because this is the internet and for the most part all my comments will remain anonymous. From my personal experience when i didn't pay my tithe I noticed a certain chain of bad events that I had no control over that costed me money. After a while I had a hunch the reason why was because I did not think paying my tithe was a big deal. Now I've been paying my tithe consistently and I am experiencing the opposite, I have more than enough. But...to each its own, do whatever you want but this I know for sure, when I die I will have to give God an answer. He might ask that, maybe it is a big deal to him, I just don't want to get it wrong seeing that we are only stewards of everything we own it just made sense to me.
@jeffreybarruga257
8 жыл бұрын
+llonden2kx Good for you man....it was my mistake for putting it out there, I was just asking for it. Don't waste your time trying to prove your point the random internet guy here...you know best, but don't speak too soon....where all gonna have to answer to God in the end and he has the final say, not you.
@jeweldolin75
6 жыл бұрын
I love his sermons but I would have to admit I do not agree with this one. Which is okay. But the Lord says in Malachi 3 do not Rob God. He also says that he will bless us with such a blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it. I'll take the blessing :-) My Savior could I have the 10% to help the poor, to run a building. Whatever he wants it for... and then some. We can tithe our time, resources and our gifts in Jesus name ..
@KikoJimenezElPistolero
8 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@calvinwilliams3662
7 жыл бұрын
Kiko Jimenez you're hot
@goersorg
11 жыл бұрын
Joshandbobbi: keep diligently studying the Word of God and the INTENT of the Word. You will get there in the end. GBU in your journey.
@JetnorMartika
9 жыл бұрын
. Tithing is a training tool so to speak that God uses which makes us a more generous giver. "God Loves a generous giver" doesn't He not? What about missions and spreading of the gospel, who is going to pay for that? What about paying the rent on the church and paying the pastor? Tithing is spoken of in the old testament and Jesus did not negate the old testament . We should give God the first fruits of our labor and the first fruits of everything, not because God needs our money, but because we acknowledge that God has given us all things ! Tithing teaches us to be generous people and to reflect the Fathers heart, from whom all blessings come from. I mean we, as Christians, trust the Lord with everlasting life but we have hard time trusting God with our finances. I believe tithing takes our faith in money and rightly puts in God , where it belongs.
@corozaleno21
8 жыл бұрын
Hi. I understand your response, but the fact or truth is: God did not mandate the New Testament church to tithe. By the way, the Christian tithe does not equate to the Biblical Old Testament tithe- fact not folly:).
@foreverlovegreen8843
8 жыл бұрын
please give scriptures and im sure you will give the same scripture these watered down preachers do? will wait!
@frog9990
8 жыл бұрын
+Raven Saint Jesus was speaking to the Nation of Israel in Matthew 23:23: hence, they are operating under the law and Jesus upbraids them for wrongly applying the law. The principle behind tithes was one of over 600 laws given to Israel. Jesus fulfills the law and we have New Covenant now operating under Grace; therefore, "Cheerful Givers".
@achiepalaago
8 жыл бұрын
+Jetnor Martika That's a specious argument which actually sounds very stupid to anyone who actually reads the bible to their understanding and not cursorily. First of all tithing isn't a training tool. Don't make up reasons to justify tithing. Systematic tithing was actually introduced in the Law of Moses. It's sole purpose was to support the Levitical priesthood because they had no inheritance in land. It was God's way of paying the levites and priests who interceded on behalf of the people. Tithes were agrarian or required from only farmers and livestock owners in the holy land. Other occupations and poor people weren't supposed to tithe. There were over 3 different types of tithes and some of them were a means of giving help to the poor, foreigners etc. Also tithes were always food or animals. Money was never used as tithes. Tithing ended when Jesus gave up his ghost on the cross. The moment the veil in the temple was torn into two signifying an end to the old system where everything had to go through the priests. So now we're not under the law. We are under grace. Rom. 6:14. So now we're saved through faith by the grace of God. So now, God expects you to give from your heart and not because the bible says you have to give a specific amount. So back to your point, that's the reason why the bible talks about God loving a cheerful giver. Jesus talks about that in Luke 20-21. So God wants you to give to support his work. The point is, he doesn't have a mandatory amount that you are to give. He just wants us to give happily and willingly and without coercion. Any preacher/pastor who tells you that you're supposed to give a tenth of your income to the church (oh i meant to God), is a LIAR. That's why there is no single mention or teaching on tithing in the new testament. It's just voluntary giving not mandatory. You mentioned first fruits. Well the first fruits offering was when the Israelites brought a portion of the fruits that ripened first as an offering. These were looked on as a pledge of the coming harvest, which would then be tithed. So that wasn't the actual tithe.
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+Jetnor Martika So, does the Bible SAY it is a training tool? No, it never says that. And it is easier to give generously from your heart when the Pastor is NOT making you feel guilty and forced. More importantly, the pastors usually twist Malachi 3:6 into accusing non-tithers of "robbing God", when the fact is that verse was speaking to Levite priests stealing the tithe. Also, don't mix up tithes and offerins, b/c they are different things. And finally, if you look at all the mentions of tithing in the Old Testament, the tithes were always FOOD (crops or livestock) to feed the priests who worked in shifts; the tithe was always paid by Jews, not Gentiles; and the tithe was always paid in the HOLY LAND. Another point is that there is no Temple in Israel that needs a priesthood to oversee it like prior to 70AD. WE are His temple, filled with His Holy Spirit. And in America in the olden days, the Christians who wanted a church building would all chip in to build it and then they would pay the pastor a salary...WAGES. A tithe is not necessary to pay for these expenses. And ONE MORE THING, since you mentioned the church building....No where in the New Testament did the LORD say anything about building a new temple or church buildings for meeting in....they met in each other's houses. Home Church, in other words, not some huge MEGA church where nobody knows each other.
@only1gumpy941
9 жыл бұрын
Tithing was never money in the Bible. So if you want to tithe Biblically tithe you chickens, cowed, corn, ect but not money. The tithe in the Bible was for the Levites because God said they did not get any inheritance. We have no Levites today so their is not need for the tithe. The season you won't hear this preached is pastors want your money.
@JayTheLordIsMySaviorJones
9 жыл бұрын
Amen
@markfowler3377
9 жыл бұрын
You make a good point. Just a question out of interest, no intention to cause any argument I would just really appreciate an opinion. Are church leaders not the modern day Levites? What about Missionaries or people in full time ministries? I also do not like the way pastors hammer on tithing and try to convince people that in ordere for them to be blessed (and its always materil blessing) they HAVE to tithe.. It kind of irritates me. I personally do not tithe a tenth (maybe coz I am a student :)) but I always give whatever I can whenever I can but not to church institutions but to mission orginisations.
@waterssolar5025
9 жыл бұрын
Mark Fowler Hi Mark, Under the New Covenant the believers are the priesthood. The New Covenant never teaches that there is a special class of believer that ministers to God for the "laity" and ministers to the "laity" for God. No where is there a New Covenant command to take what was once given to the levites and give it to the NewTestament "church leaders." All believers must learn to give joyfully, extravagantly, and faithfully to care for orphans and widows and to spread the gospel. True giving is motivated by love and grace and happens in agreement with God's heart. True kingdom giving excludes brow-beating preachers cursing them for not helping them build their religious palaces and Absalomic monuments.
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Fowler In the OT with the tabernacle (tent) and then the first and second temples in Jerusalem, there was a need for folks to run things (perform worship songs/music, make candles and replace curtains when they ran out or wore out, clean up the place, repair the temple when it started falling apart or got damaged, slaughter the animal sacrifices, prepare the food for the priests... the tribe of Levi was assigned those jobs and there were enough Levite men in the right age group (not too young and not too old) that they only had to serve a couple of weeks (not certain about this...I thought it was more like 3 months out of each year) and had plenty of time to do other things to provide for their family. The tithe was FOOD (animals or grains/fruits/veggies) brought in baskets by the families that farmed or ranched; it was never money (although money did exists at that time) because the Levites on duty brought their own clothes and necessiites when thay came to do their duty and just needed food for those 2 weeks.
@joysingkey28
7 жыл бұрын
Well, being an agricultural culture, that was their form of currency. We may not have "Levites" today but we do have people who care for the practical things in your church buildings today much as the Levites were with the furnishings, setting up and taking down of the Tabernacle and all the things that belong to it.
@altriego1
12 жыл бұрын
This is a great perspective on a divisive issue.
@jerryavalos9610
Жыл бұрын
Where your money is you heart is. I tithe not because I have to, but because I choose to. I found I have been blessed even more and teaches me to put money and its value in its proper perspective.
@hansmeisterschulz5941
7 жыл бұрын
Everything that you "think" you own is simply given to you on loan! "What do you have that you have not received?" ANSWER: Absolutely nothing HUh! 1Cor. 4:7
@borikuacoqui
8 жыл бұрын
May the Lord bless everyone...God says that His words are eternal, heaven and earth pass away but His words will NEVER pass away. Also, God is the same yesterday, today and forever, and there is no variation or shadow of turning in Him. May I remind you that the Lord Himself spoke these words to His people through the prophet Malachi 3:3-12...asks man..v3. "Will a man rob God? Yet you have robbed Me! But you say, In what way have we robbed You? In tithes and offerings." Also read story of rich man and Jesus...Jesus giving to "temple tax", by way of Peter fishing for coins. We should give offerings with joy...but let's not kid ourselves, we also NEED to tithe...not for the church or pastor, but in obedience to GOD and His Word.
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+borikuacoqui Why don't you try reading the whole book of Malachi, it's just a few short chapters. You will see that the first 4 or so verses are spoken to the nation of Isreael, but after that, the rest of the book is directed to THEIVING PRIESTS! Any pastor who uses this verst to beat the congregation into tithing submission shoudl be tarred and feathered. It is wicked to twist scripture. Surely a pastor has time to read 4 short chapters (2.5 pages in my Bible)and then stop using that as a tool to induce tithing.
@borikuacoqui
8 жыл бұрын
Beloved sister Sandra, do you believe that the promises in the bible that were for the children of Israel are also yours? If you believe that, like I do, you have to take the whole bible as a teaching, exhortation and a rebuke to our lives if we live unholy in God's eyes. That being said, just like you brought up the issues with "pastors" that are thieves, and yes there are many, it doesn't take away the fact that the verse talks to "man"...meaning mankind, not only the children of Jacob/Israel. BTW...thank you for pointing out that the book of Malachi has only 4 chapters. May the Lord bless you.
@borikuacoqui
8 жыл бұрын
P.S. Just as a side note sister Sandra, your comment came off a little angry, you should also forgive anyone that has also done you wrong, maybe a pastor? I mean,only if you want to make it to heaven. GBY :)
@Kblog777
8 жыл бұрын
+Sandra Clark Your comment here Sandra, kinda contradicts what you said in reply to a comment that I made regarding percentage giving.
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
That is ignorant. Malachi 3 was not speaking to the congregation, but to Levites.
@alexzandr1497
7 жыл бұрын
You give what's in your heart to give
@lisamounts6555
7 жыл бұрын
ever since I'm dedicated my time and life to Gods ways my heart grieves for a family , I feel like lost sheep in this city
@arthurcaputo8997
8 жыл бұрын
While I like Francis Chan for some doctrine, I believe he is incorrect in this. My first years as a Christian were spent in confusion about tithing (which means 10th by the way); what percent? Is it just money or does time, materials, etc count? Can I donate my tithe to worthy causes, in the name of God, and have that count? I now understand that we are to give of our money and give it to your church, 10% - period. So that means first of all that you must be attending a local church regularly - we are commanded to 'not forsake the fellowship of the bretheren' and that means church. Just as the Levites were God's representatives, so is your church. If you feel that giving your money to the church is just making someone else rich or is not being used appropriately, then find another church! If you trust your church leadership, then give them their due - 10%. Even when it hurts. And if people were honest, giving 10% doesn't hurt in most cases - probably greater than 98% - have wasteful expenditures such as CIGARETTES!, Alcohol, starbucks, mcdonalds, how about cell phones or cable TV? These are not 'must haves - necessities' these are luxuries. So be honest with yourself. It's all God's money, he wants a show of faith in returning 10% to Him and He gives you 90%!!! Secondly, He promises that if you sow seed he will return it to you 100-fold! But this comes from the 90%, not the tithe. Give of your wealth and God will return it to you. But be wary of prosperity preachers like Rod Parsely, Bennie Hinn, Kenneth Copeland - pretty much everyone on TBN - these are the wolves in sheep's clothing. These are the false prophets that due damage to God's word and plan for you. Give and you will see the difference it makes in your life and in your walk with the Lord. You can't take it with you. Store up your treasure in heaven.
@frog9990
8 жыл бұрын
+Arthur Caputo If you study Jewish history and the law you will find that they tithed in excess of 20%. And "not forsaking the fellowship..." was written to Jews and Jewish converts who were under pressure to forego meeting openly. I mean, the book is titled "Hebrews". I am a Gentile believer, so my doctrine is found between Romans and Philemon. The passage Mark 10:28-31 (One Hundred Fold) never mentions money although hirelings in the ministry spin it that way. Why? Because they want to protect their wallets. One must read the entire context to grasp the intent of the teaching. Mar 10:28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee. Mar 10:29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, Mar 10:30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. The verse says hundredfold of houses....mothers, fathers, children, land etc. How many do you know who have a hundred houses- a hundred mothers or a hundred children? The gain here is a whole new family. Many homes were opened to God's servants; therefore, many new relationships in the household of God. Houses and lands are the accommodations wherever we go for the sake of the Gospel. We come into the family of God and gain a bigger family. God’s promise of provisions for being in the family is eternal rewards. Our blessings are spiritual, not physical. “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:” (Ephesians 1:3)
@arthurcaputo8997
8 жыл бұрын
+David Hall Thanks David, I too understand that in ancient biblical times the Israelites gave more, the figure I heard was like 30%! That doesn't change the meaning of the word 'tithe - tenth' and I would encourage others to not be bean counters, getting their calculator out to be sure they don't give 11%. I also think that God's promises of returning blessing are valid even applied to money. Also, the whole Bible applies to Christians and not just parts - after all, Paul beautifully explains that we, born-again Christians, are the new spiritual Israel therefore even Hebrews' instruction applies to us including 'not forsaking the fellowship.' Thanks again brother.
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+David Hall The fellowshipping of the saints is not going to church. Going to church is a pagan Catholic teaching so that they can discover all your sins via Confession and then blackmail you and control you. Fellowshipping is spending time with fellow believers and I for one am not going to waste my time being under the authority of a pastor who twists scriptures like Malachi 3 whether it be out of self-preservation or ignorance. A new believer is better off NOT going to church and being warped into that whole -DRESS UP AND LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER concert-atmospher spectator sport called "church". Instead, they should read their Bible and find a Christian mentor and real Christian friends who are spirit filled and led by Him, people whose final authority is not the church creed but the Holy Scriptures.
@memowilliam9889
5 жыл бұрын
You’re deceived. Your church leadership is not the levites. We are all kings and PRIESTS according to the Bible. Regarding tithing: it is 10% according to the OT. However, Jesus taught “freely you have received. Freely you shall give.” Everything you have was received by Jesus. If you have it - regardless of how small. Jesus gave it to you. Additionally Paul writes that God loves a cheerful giver. The law (tithing) puts a burden on a person that they can feel superficially good about but deeply they know that they have something lacking still. Thus, the law doer is required internally to do more. The generous giver gives out of love. He does what he can when he can because he loves the Lord and loves other people as commanded. Lastly, regarding not forsaking the gather together of the saints: The old world church model for a bunch of people to gather at a building (often referred to as “the church” is false and takes away the opportunity for each believer to fulfill the gift and administrations that the Lord has given to them. The church will never grow in real quantity or quality until it stops “going” to church and becomes the church that the Lord called them to be. You’re deceived about leadership, gathering, and tithing.
@edwardbolduc9235
10 жыл бұрын
hits the nail on the head. Tithing is one of the biggest lies in the church today.
@ernestliu1584
10 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily a lie, but a misunderstood concept, and sometimes misapplied.
@edwardbolduc9235
10 жыл бұрын
na its a lie in the dispensation of grace error think of all the churches that have separated because of tithing. also there is no command to tithe or an example of tithing . Paul worked and turn the world upside down never once did he collect tithes
@pixelsage
10 жыл бұрын
Edward Bolduc My original reply means that tithing is entirely Biblical, but is to be understood within its proper context in the old testament. Thus, it is not a lie, just simply a concept that is sometimes misapplied.
@ernestliu1584
10 жыл бұрын
Me = PixelSage, btw.
@edwardbolduc9235
10 жыл бұрын
what I am saying that tithing is not meant for the new testament church. Paul had plenty of chances to say that tithing should continue into the dispensation of grace but not once did he, there is no command to tithe or an example of tithing in the new testament. many of church's have divided over tithing. na Paul worked for a living and turn the world upside down Amen.
@whatdoesjesusteach
7 жыл бұрын
Everyone. I am confused. I am reading 2 Corithians 8:8. It says 'I speak not by commandment, but I am testing the sincerity of your love by the diligence of others'. When I look at verse 7, "as you abound in everything-in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in all diligence, and in your love for us-see that you abound in this grace also". So this tells me in Verse 8, it is referring to "abounding in grace" as not being a command that is was just speaking about in verse 7. There isn't anything related to giving in verses 1-8, so not sure about the correlation to tithing. Since I cannot find a verse stating tithing is optional, can someone tell me where this verse is located? What I do see in tithing that Jesus specifically states, and is shows in two books of the gospel: Matthew 23:23 specifically shows Jesus calling out the pharisees. The verse includes "For you pay tithe...and have neglected the weightier matters of the law...Thee you ought to have done (tithe) WITHOUT leaving the others undone. Right here, he is focusing on the pharisees not having mercy, justice and faith, BUT he includes that tithing should not be left undone. Luke 11:42 is the same story worded slightly different, but the tithing portion is the same. So this is twice so far. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Malachi 3:8-10 specifically says God calls not tithing stealing. Granted this is mentioned in the old testament, however Jesus also states in Matthew 5:17 that He did not come to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it. We can't just say because it is in the old testament, we just ignore it either. But in the new testament, there are two direct references from Jesus Himself not to ignore tithing. How can we ignore that? Am I missing anything? I'd like some comments if you would please. God bless each of you.
@1berealsteve
11 жыл бұрын
you speak much truth!!
@jhbj1953c
9 жыл бұрын
Francis is not wrong. We are no longer under the old testament law. If you believe we are under the law of tithing then we are under the law of everything. All the laws that Jesus died for us to save us from. Grace abounds under the new covenant. Please, if you study the word you will see this. What profit is it for a church leader to say, a "'your not under the law of tithing" They wold lose their money. God's law is now the law of grace and most people give more under grace than the law. that's all
@RichardTonata
9 жыл бұрын
When you get an income, 10% is not yours, but belongs to God. If it was ours we would not be stealing it (Malachi 3:8), you can't steal what's yours, so it's not your money. And in Mathew 23:23 says YOU SHOULD tithe without neglecting the other more important matters, i.e. Justice, mercy, faithfulness. So tithing is a commandment not a choice. My advise to anyone who doesn't believe it's a commandment, please pray earnestly for the light in this regard.. Cos I'm sure you don't want to lose your eternity over such "a not so burdensome" commandment.
@StarTex5
9 жыл бұрын
I am praying for you, show me where we are told to pay tithes to the Church? Anything before Jesus death would not be for the Church because the world had not yet been freed from the law and the Church had not started yet. Anything from the Old Testament is from the old covenant and we are not under the law, we are covered by grace. If you try to hold one law then you must keep the whole law. 2 Corinthians 9:7 “Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver” This also suggests to us to give what God has laid on our hearts. This is Paul speaking to the Church, why didn't he tell them they need to pay tithes and give the Church 10%.? Mathew 23:23 doesn't say what you say it says, your confused. Matthew 23:23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone." Jesus didn't say anything about the tithes other than when they did them they should have done the others but He did call them out for neglecting justice and mercy and faith. Yes we are to give but not under the law but by our hearts. God wants us to give freely. Also notice they did not pay money for their tenth but they did pay Caesar money for taxes. I think we need to study harder and pray harder for I believe there is a lot of brain washing going in this world we live in today.
@tweakmeup1
9 жыл бұрын
StarTex5 No brother, you are the one who is in error. First of all, "tithes" is not under "the law", because Abraham gave his 10th "by faith". But it is also not compulsory, you must do it only by faith, other wise it is useless to God. Now the church in the time of Lord Jesus doesn't require them to pay for rent and other utility expenses, unlike the churches that we have now. This is why God touches the hearts of those who have faith in Him to give to the church to help pay for these facilities. We don't give services in the mountains anymore, we are trying to seek and save the lost, and those who are lost will not go to the mountains anymore just to hear us preach the gospel. So let us give, "if we can", because all your effort to the Lord will not be in vain. God bless you bother.
@StarTex5
9 жыл бұрын
Tweak Tweakker I agree with you brother we should give in faith but not by a commandment. I live by the word not what people think or who is preaching it. 2 Corinthians 9:7 tells us how we are to give. Also Abraham did not give a 10th of his personal goods. Abraham gave a 10th of what he brought back from the war. Hebrew 7:4 says he gave a 10th of the spoils. Abraham was on his way back from the war and stopped in Salem. Abraham lived 160 years and the Bible does not say anything about him ever doing it again. There is nothing in the Bible before the law where God gave a command to pay tithes. The commandment to Tithe is law, all Abraham did was give with a cheerful heart and it happened to be a 10th and really why not when we use 10's more than any other number and pretty easy to know why that is since we have 10 fingers and 10 toes. I know and understand the Church needs funds but God wants us to give in faith and from the heart. I'm a firm believer we must fund God's plan. I have nothing that God didn't give me, it all belongs to Him. We have Churches on every corner I wonder how many really go out with the Gospel and help those around them and how many would shut down if everyone knew they didn't have to pay a tithe. Think about it for a moment, God doesn't want his Churches depending on a commandment from the Old Testament. God doesn't want us being made to do something He wants us to be faithful and trust Him for our needs. Galatians 6:7-9 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. 9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. How can a person soweth to the Spirit if Churches teach God's laws and legalism instead of following Jesus! Many Churches teach God expects us to pay a 10th and if we don't we are not obeying God. That doesn't sound like a Church depending on God to me. How is that setting an example to the flock to live by faith? I know am not perfect and I have error but this isn't one of them. I prayerfully surrender myself to God and ask if He will not let me be misled and I study with a heart that wants to learn truth not legalism. There are many Churches today doing nothing for their community and they are living inside the walls meeting Sundays and Wednesdays and going home. If we lived by the Bible and did as it directs us the Churches in this world would be a place of comfort and rest and God would be honored in all we do. There is a lot of Churches keeping their doors open because they push legalism like tithes on the people and if we trusted God and allow Him to run His Church I have a feeling a lot of them would shut their doors because they are full of lukewarm people. Thanks for the softened words and I do agree with you on a lot of your views just not all of them. May God Bless you in many ways. Praying for His grace to carry us from this world to the next!
@mommyto3gr8ones
9 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with you. When you receive an income, 100% is not yours. Everything is from God, of God, and to God. "For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together" (Colossians 1:16,17) Therefore, tithing is really a heart to heart matter with God and personally between you and Him. “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Matthew 22:36-40 Also, do you really think that not giving 10% is to be given is going to make someone "lose your eternity"?? Where is THAT in scripture?? Confess your need for a savior, believe in your heart, and give your 10% or you won't be saved???? Is that how it goes? Just wondering if I missed something somewhere.
@trellcarson
9 жыл бұрын
Sssssuuwwuup. Thanks for gvin veres.. on it
@mariac6280
4 жыл бұрын
Like I always say to everyone I know. Whatever u do, do it with your heart or else don't do it! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@lindalane5391
6 жыл бұрын
Tithing is about giving God your obedience. Giving it cheerfully to help the church, other people,giving is a blessing to u & others. U r showing God u trust Him with what He has given you. putting him first he says he will give u the desires of your heart.
@brianboisguilbert6985
6 жыл бұрын
Where does Christ say that exactly in the New Testament , that one must show their obedience to God by tithing?
@ALCY2o
8 жыл бұрын
If you Give according to Malachi 3:10 you will get what Galatians 3:10 says
@markmcmanus872
7 жыл бұрын
If we look at who God was speaking to, it's clear he was speaking to the temple priests who were robbing God. That was never directed to the church, nor is the Pastor ever representative of these priests in collecting tithes. The store house is not the church, it was a place where produce was kept. As well if Pastors are biblically a representation of these priests in collecting tithes, the law made it clear that priests could own.. nothing. No land, no house, no cars etc. And of course Galatians was addressing the jews zealous to go back into the law after attaining freedom.
@jessicahamilton3314
7 жыл бұрын
Mark McManus very well said!
@ALCY2o
7 жыл бұрын
Mark McManus Amen what you said, so true!! Pastors these days are blind by this tithe Law.
@kuyapogi1256
6 жыл бұрын
ALCY MEDIA really? So do you make offerings to the temple priests too or are you robbing from God still?
@jieunlee2544
10 жыл бұрын
Giving 10% of my income is something very natural. It is very small portion of what he gave to me.
@AmandaWait
10 жыл бұрын
You can't EVER pay Jesus for what He did for us. It was a gift from Him...FREE.
@marthahubbard9463
4 жыл бұрын
I give out of faith 10% to what is God's anyway. I am far from wealthy but He has provided abundantly to and for me. There was more than made sense when I looked at my finances and how the Lord said "Test me." A banker once told me, never sacrifice your tithing. Best advice I've ever been given.
@pastajason
12 жыл бұрын
I believe that the principle of giving God the best/first is one that goes all throughout the Bible. I absolutely love however, how Francis taught the true issue and concern of God - our hearts. This is a message every believer needs to hear, especially those who tithe and then close their hearts to allowing God to use them through generous lives. Thanks for posting this. Although I would change the title to "the truth about giving" because what he taught goes beyond the tithe.
@abrown6726
9 жыл бұрын
you people need to reread your bible, you are going against God's Words, you are taking away from God's word! you need to get off or away from the pulpit, you are contradicting all that is stated in the bible! And that's not what that is about! You just called God a lie, and we all, at least some of us, know that God can't lie! read the whole 3rd chapter of Malachi, and if you fail to understand it read it again!
@frog9990
8 жыл бұрын
+Arthur Brown All errant teaching is always based upon one verse or a single chapter; hence, is becomes crucial to always remember WHO is speaking and to WHOM is being spoken. Malachi is not doctrine for the New Covenant Church. Let's go back to the introductory verse that defines to WHOM is being spoken. "The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi." (Malachi 1:1) To whom? To Israel, not Gentile believers under grace, but to the Nation of Israel operating under the Law. It is imperative that we "Rightly Divide" the word of truth. You cannot keep the laws that support errant teaching and disregard all of the rest. Christianity is not a cafeteria where one can pick and choose passages to support skewed theology. If you keep one law then you would have to keep the entire law. Are you sacrificing bulls and goats on the altar? It is the law. Do you keep your meat separate from your milk in a different refrigerator? It is the law. For he that offends in one point of the law is guilt of all. Thank you Jesus for grace, because no one could ever keep the law. Probably the most overlooked verse in New Covenant doctrine is: "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15)
@zacharyhoward2909
8 жыл бұрын
+David Hall Well said brother.
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+David Hall Actually only the first chapter of Malach is directed to the people of Israel. Chapters 2, 3 and 4 are directed to the priests, preists who were stealing the tithe. This resulted in their not being any FOOD (not money!) in the storehouse, so the other priests who showed up for their shift just went back home; that was the situation. The congregation/people were tithing but the priests were stealing it. Pastors should NEVER use Malachi 3:6 as justification for tithing or to manipulate people into tithing. That is inexcusable.
@frog9990
8 жыл бұрын
If you believe that Malachi was written to the New Covenant church you are guilty of trying to shove Old Covenant doctrine into the doctrines for the New Covenant church. The Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, etc. have been doing so for years. That is why we are instructed to "Rightly Divide" the Scriptures. Our doctrine begins after the crucifixion. And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
@Giovanniherrera74
8 жыл бұрын
he never said no to tithing.
@sandraclark2922
8 жыл бұрын
+GIO “GH1FILMS” HERRERA You are arguing from ignorance (arguing based on something NOT being there). The purpose of the tithe was to feed the Levites when they were taking their turn at the Temple once each year (for a few weeks or months). Now that we do not have a temple -WE ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT), there is no need -and ne excuse-for a temple or for tithing. Tithing was always food: crops or livestock. An increase in crops and livestock are easy to calculate: you just take out your expenses for the plow and the feed for the oxen and the seed you started with and all your other expenses and that is your INCREASE (another little detail pastors who preach tithing always leave out or gloss over). It was not money. It was never "paid" by Gentiles and it was never "paid" outside the land of Israel. Furthermore, the Levites who collected the tithe were not allowed to own property. Pastors who preach tithing OWN LAND or do their best to do so. How does that align with the WORD? It doesn't.
@jakehess27
8 жыл бұрын
+GIO “GH1FILMS” HERRERA at 0:55 "I don't believe you're required to give a certain amount of your income" Tithing: giving 10% of your income..... Sound like it to me!
@pamelagrace2056
7 жыл бұрын
Teach it Sandra! You are more right on with what tithing was and is still supposed to be today...and absolutely true...the priests were not allowed to own anything and the people were supposed to 'feed' them as they 'fed' the people with God's word and temple duties! Bless you.
@Combat_Pyro
6 жыл бұрын
You were required to tithe of your “produce,” which was grain and livestock if you want to be technical, not money so the church can build a new wing. It was to feed the priests and the widows and fatherless. Show me where the grain offering box is or the corral to donate my livestock in church. I’m not saying “tithing” is not good, IF that’s where you feel blessed and joyous to give, but how maturely the funding is used is of the most importance.
@byronk.4220
6 жыл бұрын
Abraham purposed to give 10% and God didn't command him to do so. If I sow 9%, God will multiply my seed sown. That's new covenant teaching. Paul says if we sow sparingly, we reap sparingly. If we sow bountifully, we reap bountifully. 10% isn't required by God.
@SublimeSati
11 жыл бұрын
Amen. Nailed it.
@soulvibe319
7 жыл бұрын
Give freely as it is given to you.
@leonardyoung2902
7 жыл бұрын
We are not required to pay tithes today but to give cheerfully. Because of the love of money many churches and pastors have not and will never accept this. Instead they preach that persons who don't pay tithes are cursed and are robbing God. A blatant misrepresentation of the scriptures.
@coolestmcse
10 жыл бұрын
If you tithe according to the Law, you have to keep the remaining 612 laws. And YES, tithing is a matter of the law, read Matthew 23:23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier MATTERS OF THE LAW: justice and mercy and faith.
@lusciousphilippa
12 жыл бұрын
I truly believe this too. My husband is a Messianic believer and from what we've learnt, the verses in Malachi were directed at the Levites. Why mainstream pastors use this verse to grow their wealth and are financed by their congregation is not biblical. Why they use the Bible to finance themselves instead of giving all to those in need, bewilders me.
@52RGD
12 жыл бұрын
I like this one.
@davidlange3551
8 жыл бұрын
Jesus said in the New Testament we SHOULD tithe. I think I will follow that advice. Matthew 23:23 (NIV) 23 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former." We are required to give the tithe and be more merciful. Paul is talking about an offering in the passage Francis Chan is referring to. Look at 2 Corinthians 8:19 in the context of the passage. God's word says we are required to give the tithe and offerings. Malachi 3:8 "we rob God in our tithes and offerings". www.fivecommitments.com
@vincentsidelinger8330
8 жыл бұрын
Malachi 3:8 is used to make a Christian feel guilty about NOT tithing 10%. It is mixing Law with Grace. I could give someone my time. I could mow someones lawn at no cost to them. I could visit the orphans and teach them about the gospel of Jesus Christ. I could visit the widows and help them with tasks they can't do just to help them out. I could give a homeless person food, and even possibly a place to stay. Christians are to be cheerful givers. The World says it HAS to be money. God says anything that brings others closer to him is being a cheerful giver. 2 Corinthians 8:19 (KJV) says 19 And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind: Where do you see that Christians are to follow the OLD levite Law?
@davidlange3551
8 жыл бұрын
Mathew 23:23 Jesus said it
@michaelswenson281
8 жыл бұрын
Jesus said it speaking to the Pharisees and teachers of the Law in the context of the old covenant. There is no command given to the New Testament church to tithe. 2 Corinthians 8:19 says nothing whatsoever about tithing, rather a gift given willingly for those in need. Malachi 3:8 is spoken to an entire nation that was disobeying God and violating the terms of the covenant between them and God, the old covenant.
@stjett
8 жыл бұрын
David you need to comprehend what you read better. You like many naïve brother take this scripture out of context. tithing was to Israel for the Levites, and every three year to the orphans, widow, strangers and poor. Never to pastors. mike is dead on. Jesus was telling them what to do under the law. JESUS SAID " MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS OF THE LAW." not more important matter of the gospel or grace or new testament. This one is free: the priest only receive a tenth of tithe not the whole tithe. NUM 18:25-29. wake up
@timeday6420
8 жыл бұрын
look at what JESUS SAID TO THE PAARISIEES 23-23 THEY TITHE SPICES MINT DILL CUMMIN.. THEY DID NOT TITHE MONEY.> GO LOOK IT UP; PLUS JESUS WAS SAYING THEY HAD TO KEEP THE WHOLE LAW OF MOSES NOT JUST THE TITHING ..LIKE SO MANY PASTORS OF TO DAY THEY DONT WANT NOTHING ELSE BUT THE TITHE;;IN TRUTH YOU CANT FIND 1 CONVERT.WHO PAYED TITHES OR WAS TOLD TO TITHE IF YOU LOOK AT ACTS 15 READ THE WHOLE CHAPTER PAUL WOULD CALL THE PASTORS OF TODAY TROUBLE MAKERS... PAUL NEVER EVER EVER QOUTED MALACHI 3.8 OR YELLED YOUR ROBBING GOD AND HE LED MORE PEOPLE TO JESUS THEN ANY 1 ELSE.. BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU READ THE HIS BOOKS HE WIL NEVER SEE ANY 1 TOLD TO TITHE. PERIOD. THE TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL I KNOW YOU WANT TO SAY ABRAHAM TITHE BE FORE MOSES BUT YOU WILL NEVER FIND , ANY WERE DID IT SAY ABRAHAM TITHE HIS OWEN STUFF . AND HE ONLY TITHE 1 TIME THAT CAN BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE . SO IN TRUTH NO NOT 1 NEW CONVERT WAS EVER TOLD TO TITHE AT ANY TIME YOU CANT GIVE ME I VERSE WERE PAUL .,PETER JAMES JOHN OR ANYONY TOLD ANY NEW CONVERT T TITHE BUT TO DAY THE MINUTE YOUR SAVED THEY WANT TO PUT TITHE BURDEN ON YOU AND CAUSE YOU AND YOUR WIFE TO FIGHT AND THEY WOUND WHY WHY SO MANY CHURCH PEOPLE GET DEVORCED BECAUSE OF MONEY BE FREE IN TRUTH YOU PROPLEY NO NOT MUCH ON TITHING YOU AND YOUR CHURCH DOES NOT DO WHAT MOSES SAYS WITH THE TITHE IN THE 3 YEAR IT WAS TO BE GIVEN TO THE POOR WIDOWS STANGERS ORPHANS GO LLOK THIS UP PLUS THE LEVIPRIGHTS WERE TO OWEN NO LAND//BUT TO TODAY PASTOR OWNS BOAT CAR HOUSES PLAINES THEY CRYS FOR MORE
@lyndajanzen5019
9 жыл бұрын
Francis Chan, I usually agree with you, but not this time. Tithing is the way I. Which we show ourselves and the world that we can ALWAYS rely on Jehovah Jireh, God the Provider. Tithing shows our obedience to God by giving back the first fruits to be used for the benefit of others. One of Christ's most beautiful parables was about the widow giving to God her last "mite". Tithing follows Jesus' teaching to TRUST GOD in all things. An off-shoot benefit that arises from such trusting is that even when it looks as though there may not be enough, you find there is always more than you need when you need it. Mr Chan, be blessed to stay firmly entrenched in the Holy Spirit. You have a very good job of furthering the Kingdom. Don't lose your way now.
@bettycat4625
9 жыл бұрын
Lynda, tithing is giving 10%. The widow you mention gave everything she had to live on, so she gave 100%. The rich young ruler kept the commandments (including tithing) but Jesus said to sell all she had and give it to the poor. That's more than 10%. The Pharisees tithed 10% but lacked love, so it didn't matter what they gave. In Acts we see the churches selling and sharing all of their possessions to take care of each other. That's more than 10%. If you read the new testament examples of giving, we see it isn't about the amount we give, it is about being a cheerful giver whose giving is based on love for others. Whether you decide to give 10%, more than 10%, or if you are the one in need and able to give nothing, it doesn't matter. What matters is the heart. That's the difference between the old law and the new. The old law was specific and was for training. But, Jesus' kingdom is spiritual. Now, anger against your brother is the same as murder. Now, lusting is the same as committing adultery. Now, we have a spiritual kingdom instead of a physical nation. Now our responsibility isn't based on laws, but on love. Francis Chan hasn't lost his way, he's simply found Jesus' way.
@Xidcat
9 жыл бұрын
I thought of the same thing, the widow's mite. Surrender everything for Jesus, like what he said to the rich young ruler.
@tameechen6689
9 жыл бұрын
thats not what Francis was saying. I think you totally misunderstood him. He was saying Lynda. He was saying you should give more. have a heart for giving not just give 10% b/c they did in the OT but Christ gave EVERYTHING and that what we need to follow, not the law that says give 10%. I dont get how you missed that?
@NPRAlexHowell
9 жыл бұрын
Xidcat Woe. Well said.
@Lazarusrizing
9 жыл бұрын
"Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." - 2 Corinthians 9:7. Listen carefully to Chan. A lot people tithe because they have the law on their mind which they're mixing with grace. Paul expands on this mixing in the Book of Romans. So we should give out of love, but not out of compulsion as the scripture says. It's pride that keeps many from seeing that. Because it makes them think they are somehow "approved" by God, when you are approved and accepted in Christ because He already did it all.
@Kevin-pe1kj
5 жыл бұрын
I believe tithing is a sign for those who have surrendered their will over to Jesus and his Word just as baptism is a sign.
@linamike172
6 жыл бұрын
Only if you "GIVE" you shall receive. If you don't tithe, you will always face financial crisis all through your life
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