This is what happens if you don’t dress up for the awards show folks.
@kilokilo9034
4 жыл бұрын
eggshi it said dressed to impress not wear a tux for the Grammys
@ryanschaff123
4 жыл бұрын
kilo Kilo a plain t shirt and jeans is your idea of “dressing to impress”!?’ Dirty homeless fuck.
@michaelmartin3026
5 жыл бұрын
Dude has spot on perspective on his mistake.. refreshing to hear, old fashioned taking responsibility for actions! Wow! Good stuff
@crombie92
5 жыл бұрын
That's because everyone already told him how such a douche he was for posting that...
@rullmourn1142
Жыл бұрын
HES A LIAR.
@esquire9445
5 жыл бұрын
Seems he is intelligent enough to know how to handle it... No excuses, own it. Good for him, I think highly of him for how he is handling this.
@donmac-ee1402
5 жыл бұрын
shut yo a** up
@b3ostonBCS
5 жыл бұрын
Seems intelligent 🤔🤔, only a Harvard alum who's a classical piano player haha.. non the less I like how he handled it too a lot of people all of a sudden would say F barstool they suck anyways. Oh well Prez wasn't happy with him for a long while.
@SolidMikeP
4 жыл бұрын
Esquire he fooled you
@willcox5539
4 жыл бұрын
Francis burner account
@TheNTMG
3 жыл бұрын
He a dork
@837301
4 жыл бұрын
When he said “it’s just something I wrote to show that I had come to work that day” all of Buzzfeed felt that.
@837301
3 жыл бұрын
Tucker Stafford ~ Lol, good one. I too, thoroughly enjoy the ‘things & stuff’ they write about at Buzzfeed. 🤣
@dash4800
3 жыл бұрын
@Tucker Stafford lol, thats hilarious
@Anation7
3 жыл бұрын
@Tucker Stafford I'm from the future to tell you you're dumb
@TSJ99
3 жыл бұрын
@Tucker Stafford You actually typed that, yikes
@FantasyTeamAdvisors
3 жыл бұрын
@Tucker Stafford Yes Agreed. I need to know which I am: A Dildo, or a vibrator quiz. Such fantastic work.
@catapillargirl2021
5 жыл бұрын
“You sound unemployed.” 🤣
@paperchaser4176
4 жыл бұрын
Haha that shit had me dying
@nof6015
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@zacharyp7511
5 жыл бұрын
“I’m doin good man you sound unemployed” 😂😂😂
@thediddler
5 жыл бұрын
Theo. You're a breath of fresh air.
@donmac-ee1402
5 жыл бұрын
punctuation error^
@krusher181
5 жыл бұрын
Francis, I feel like you really GOONED this one UP. Love ya, bud. Kinda wish you were still there to do FRONNIE DOES... sad.
@mandyg5444
3 жыл бұрын
I miss Francis. 😔
@bigEsmall
5 жыл бұрын
Francis can rub me the wrong way sometimes, no dark arts, but he certainly has handled this well or at least appeared to. Hes always been a super funny dude, really enjoyed what he brought to the stool. No doubt he'll find success on his new path.
@PandaGoblin10K
Жыл бұрын
This comment aged perfectly😂
@tombergstrand1417
5 жыл бұрын
The Call Her Daddy girls murder my ears every time they're on.
@MrCarlover1
5 жыл бұрын
why listen then
@Baboonery_
4 жыл бұрын
@@RRRRobbbb honestly she looks stiff and plastic as fuck - but yes the Fa pp en ing was glorious
@Baboonery_
4 жыл бұрын
@@RRRRobbbb honestly she looks stiff and plastic as fuck - but yes the Fa pp en ing was glorious
@adolfocastillo6254
4 жыл бұрын
Still the biggest thing at barstool 🤷🏻♂️
@GetBenched2010
3 жыл бұрын
@@adolfocastillo6254 Only because Dave constantly shoves them down his audience's throats. Anyone can get big numbers when their every move is on the site's front page and are clickbait to the 100,000th power.
@nappi20
5 жыл бұрын
Francis is insanely talented and it sucks to see him get fired, wish him the best of luck in his future
@McBrizza
5 жыл бұрын
Talented how? He’s not funny. He’s basically a red headed Brendan Schaub.
@TheDjci
5 жыл бұрын
Lol talented...
@Plexx33
5 жыл бұрын
"Sunday, Game of Thrones Day, Im excited Im excited Im excited Im excited" Yeah, so talented....
@krusher181
5 жыл бұрын
McBrizza What? Have you seen his bits with Donnie in China? He’s more than Shaub lol
@bandito818
5 жыл бұрын
Seems like this guy really understood his mistake and accepted the consequences, good for him. Hope he moves forward with his new found growth and finds success elsewhere. Glad to hear his side of the situation that was just awful for everyone
@warwick9413
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly big props to Francis for this, I was never the biggest fan of him. But after hearing him talk about this I seriously respect him.
@sea8278
5 жыл бұрын
5:00 Alyssa Milano, she just won't shut up all the time 😄
@liamjordan7186
5 жыл бұрын
Brendan looks like he drives a lowered 2001 honda civic, with a spoiler and revs it as he passes 18 year olds.
@harleyzeth
5 жыл бұрын
Brendan looks like he has alarms set for when certain minors turn 18
@LGRW313
5 жыл бұрын
"V-tec baby"
@DARKSTAR13SPENCER
5 жыл бұрын
@kalle kanin still very accurate
@donmac-ee1402
5 жыл бұрын
so do yo momma
@LGRW313
5 жыл бұрын
Don Mac-ee found the angry ricer
@extremeuzer3
5 жыл бұрын
Damn, I was at the Boston show where you performed with Francis and my man was electric
@CIARUNSITE
5 жыл бұрын
He's actually capable of writing unlike the other Barstool bloggers so naturally he had to go.
@LiterallyGod
5 жыл бұрын
Francis has the spirit of an old woman who’s been missing her dead husband
@Brandon-tk2rw
5 жыл бұрын
Naw he sounds fake af
@mvpandrew93
5 жыл бұрын
@@Brandon-tk2rw Dumbass
@big_kj8841
4 жыл бұрын
Brandon Wells how tf does he sound fake 💀 u sound dumb af
@mikedup5399
4 жыл бұрын
That’s funny....& he sounds genuine and sullen. This wasn’t an upbeat conversation or topic. When ever it went a bit off course his voice and temperament remained the same.
@nobodyaskedforthis.359
5 жыл бұрын
Good on ya Theo. Right or wrong that dude would never be Able to tell his side without you
@mikekennedy304
5 жыл бұрын
Even Alyssa Milano.... i dunno, what has she even done? She just doesn’t shut up all the time Hahaha
@houbrew5834
5 жыл бұрын
Such a breath of fresh air to hear someone just own up to their mistake instead of blaming others.
@andrewbreeden4027
5 жыл бұрын
Sad to see him go :(
@J-B-P
4 жыл бұрын
Very admirable response on his part.
@diddlez2
5 жыл бұрын
Only guy on the team who knew how to blog or even write.
@gregdodge8632
5 жыл бұрын
he owned up to it and took responsibility! Good luck Francis...
@funky_monk_2420
5 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of Barstool or anything, but thanks for looking out for a fellow comedian and giving him an opportunity to share his story as well as just listening to him and having the conversation. Now tell esteemed actor / anthrax challenge test gerbil Gianni Paolo to book Norm Macdonald
@logana4610
5 жыл бұрын
Pres was still pissed he didn’t dress up for the Dunkin Awards and felt Francis was there to leech off of barstools audience. This was the final straw.
@DSMIAJack
5 жыл бұрын
It’s because he quit...did you see how hurt he was when willie and large claimed themselves a duo and then he got scolded at the awards show and the roethlisberger deal where he said Harvard. I almost guarantee it was a mutual decision
@MahaneyMedia
5 жыл бұрын
Dude has a Harvard degree. I think he’ll be just fine.
@mattsub9659
5 жыл бұрын
Connor Mahaney he literally has millions of dollars he’ll be more than fine
@seeboone2434
4 жыл бұрын
Matt Sub wdym he has millions
@MahaneyMedia
4 жыл бұрын
seeboone idk if he himself has millions but his parents are very well off
@seeboone2434
4 жыл бұрын
Connor M ah okay
@altfiwithleighlommen310
4 жыл бұрын
Yes but education doesn't buy common sense. The topic shouldn't have been touched.
@cjlive5182
5 жыл бұрын
He must not be living check-to-check
@cully4021
2 жыл бұрын
FRancis is back at barstool!
@kelly3957
5 жыл бұрын
My opinion of Francis has actually become more positive after all of this and his reaction
@mikehatley9393
5 жыл бұрын
Can’t read headlines frances, you actually need to read the stories.
@TomTomLo1
Жыл бұрын
Francis you are awesome. How can I watch your special? Its called Bad Guy right? where can i pay to dl it?
@MLFlagg
5 жыл бұрын
I’m not a big Francis fan but without question when it comes to talent at Barstool he’s top 3.
@MLFlagg
5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Mcpheron oh even Dave was making fun of him, the guy who fired him. There isn’t barstool employee power rankings, what I’m saying is there are a lot of employees at barstool that literally have no talent (even Dave says that) but have a job. Francis is extremely talented (even Dave says that) and in my opinion one of the most talented behind Big Cat and Dave
@MLFlagg
5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Mcpheron I’m aware, all I’m saying is that I believe Francis is talented, more so than many other barstool content creators, he’s a true comedian. You disagree in saying he’s not top 10 and that’s fine. I’m not talking about who’s a more valuable asset to the chernin group
@megleigh8973
5 жыл бұрын
I was at the Wilbur for the Boston show and Francis was a great performer! Stay up brother Gang Gang 👊✌💞
@igotchaBOO
5 жыл бұрын
Wow Barstool firing someone for that??? They have gone SO SOFT.
@richardpoplis6777
2 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE a good guy Francis.. it was not done in negative way.... you will sutvive
@DaveDuva
5 жыл бұрын
Should of dressed up for the award show....
@mwilliamshs
5 жыл бұрын
No such thing as should of It's should have
@krusher181
5 жыл бұрын
Should of went to skool. It’s clearly “Should of”
@brendanbloomberg3283
4 жыл бұрын
@@krusher181 kleerly
@scottfergusonart
5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how you can be writing about something for a website, and your research is reading headlines??
@LF-ci7sp
5 жыл бұрын
its a comedy website, so the goal of any given article is to be funny, not necessarily well researched or well informed, sometimes ignorant takes can be humorous as long as you realize youre not reading something meant to be taken serious. in this case obviously it was a huge error, francis had a niche where he liked to toe the line in covering material that was morbid or controversial, and it ultimately burned him unfortunately.
@timodjav8214
4 жыл бұрын
Barstool has no credibility for research they’re purely satire like the onion and just post their bias on any current event.
@liammckillop341
5 жыл бұрын
Francis sounds like Owen Wilson
@Hicks43
5 жыл бұрын
Liam McKillop dude thank you I have been trying to figure out for so long who he reminded me of
@davidhansen4328
5 жыл бұрын
Wow
@ReverseApacheMaster
5 жыл бұрын
No. Owen Wilson has that nasally drawn-out drawl. Francis‘s vocal doppelgänger is Dane Cook.
@boon9778
5 жыл бұрын
This guys is hilarious Support this comic
@Rasputin.Bogard
5 жыл бұрын
Why is losing the ability for you to look after yourself a fair punishment for an accidental but with hindsight ill-advised piece. Who here would think losing your job, literally having to go home to tell your family that your job is gone and your family is now probably under financial risk (at least), is fair for a mistake at work? Absolutely crazy.
@jamesthen1nja
5 жыл бұрын
He made a mistake that could potentially make others lose their livelihood.
@MCaul21
5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesthen1nja it was one of many mistakes he made it was just the final stray they're not talking about a few days before this he got in deep shit with Dave over something else
@ML-kx9gz
5 жыл бұрын
lighten up francis
@MrStevie63
5 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget they fired him for abusing the companies platform to promote his own
@CarryYourAsh
5 жыл бұрын
Somebody has been on reddit too long. Francis didn’t force them to film his special and invest in him. He’s talented, they invested in him, and it didn’t work out.
@FizzyCape
5 жыл бұрын
Todd Stoothoff Dave has said himself that he felt like Francis cares more about his own shit than the company
@Elite2Gamer21
5 жыл бұрын
Bobby Sacramento I would too, barstool seems to be just about topped off in its success and a comedian like Francis could likely do better alone if he makes the right moves and the right jokes.
@PrivatelyHanging
4 жыл бұрын
@@Elite2Gamer21 topped off? Well this didn't age well did it 😂😂😂 $432 million dollar deal with Penn National Gaming
@ariesradke6193
3 жыл бұрын
whenever the police says something like they don’t suspect foul play that usually means they dead.
@austinbrown2498
3 жыл бұрын
No it doesn’t lmao
@elise9717
5 жыл бұрын
I hate to see people lose their jobs but he’ll be fine and I’m just glad I don’t have to see him on barstool anymore
@AlexGamblinBahret
5 жыл бұрын
I’m just glad this clarifies this had nothing to do with the “ go 2” awards
@krusher181
5 жыл бұрын
What was that?
@TheBeerdifulBeerReviews
5 жыл бұрын
90% of Barstool blogs are tone def and heartless , Francis just pissed on the wrong person.
@Gmoney2dope
5 жыл бұрын
should have dressed up
@rayj8510
5 жыл бұрын
It’sok -- He definitely should’ve dressed up
@chrisberry3146
5 жыл бұрын
Barstools loss imo. Francis will make it without them
@mvpandrew93
5 жыл бұрын
As will the stool
@wheelInmotion430
5 жыл бұрын
@@mvpandrew93 Only difference is Francis gets to keep his soul, Barstool sold out long ago.
@Zara_Brown
5 жыл бұрын
Cancel culture is so rushed and jumps the gun so quickly these days rather than actually care to understand
@wordinflesh1
5 жыл бұрын
Funny that we don't know if you're talking about barstool or Francis. Both were careless and rushed to do something
@MrBLAA
5 жыл бұрын
He was also self promoting... just the straw that broke the back
@mvpandrew93
5 жыл бұрын
@harvey weinstein nah one is illegal the other is perfectly safe unless made unsafe. Don't be a dumbass
@MCaul21
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrBLAA agreed I've been expecting him to be fired for a while. He didn't fit well at barstool.
@JacaboBlanco
5 жыл бұрын
Barstool got rid of Francis for more than just this. This was just the perfect excuse. See the awards ceremony . Dave Portnoy is about to purge half the office lol
@ylliberishaj3253
5 жыл бұрын
Props for him owning up to it
@GraysonAB
5 жыл бұрын
as much as I love Francis, I believe this was simply just the straw the broke the camels back. hes been on a slippery slope at Barstool for quite some time. if not this incident, it wouldve been something else.
@klassky17kingklassky81
5 жыл бұрын
Andre Gray incident it’s a joke bud don’t take it so hard it won’t turn into a cock for you.
@seanthornton9539
5 жыл бұрын
Klassky17 Girth Vader corny reply weirdo
@Mrbone009
5 жыл бұрын
also, who names a kid Francis? This guy sounds sooo Francis
@levijackson3797
5 жыл бұрын
My granny is named Francis. Granny Franny. LA makes men pussys. I love theo but this is just a dumb conversation.
@mcappello30
5 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, barstool wouldn’t have given a care. They’re changing
@landonic81
5 жыл бұрын
It's all about advertisers. They won't spend $$$ with you if you're to edgy
@AlexGamblinBahret
5 жыл бұрын
Not dressing up made Dave furious... but also great content... but understanding the brain of trying to be a billion dollar company you can’t blame business for business in this world we live in today . Wish Francis the best. #LiveandLearn
@ColbyONE
Жыл бұрын
Can learn a lot from this guy.
@Gus_Chiggins
5 жыл бұрын
Francis isn’t a a jerk, made a mistake.
@costantini09
5 жыл бұрын
Barstool put Francis back on
@shewdoh5249
5 жыл бұрын
nah
@louismccall
5 жыл бұрын
His explanation is beyond reasonable. But stating what he “should not have touched upon” is his error. All you can do is touch the subject and then go from there, steering clear is the demise of comedy.
@07coco
5 жыл бұрын
All my worlds colliding fuck the internet is small
@hankpayne5864
5 жыл бұрын
He got fired because he is lazy and doesn't care. He had it coming.
@levijackson3797
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. A guy did't do his job and got fired. Seems like a good guy just like so many are. Not sure what the point is here
@TK-oe1xm
5 жыл бұрын
To make him look better being able to come forward in supporting their decision. Admitting fault. Speaking well on Barstool even though he admits he was lazy, dumb, and deservedly shifty shit work.
@benmc9657
5 жыл бұрын
I LIKE THAT SHIRT BROTHER GANG GANG
@ElkinsEric
3 жыл бұрын
Came here after I saw Francis on Matt and Shane’s Secret Podcast....where my dawgs at?!? Turns out smart Harvard dudes can be funny too....
@gooberthoreau
3 жыл бұрын
So Dave was basically 100% right about Francis.
@AlexGamblinBahret
5 жыл бұрын
Barstool has a fine line between funny and not okay...
@MrAhuraMazda
5 жыл бұрын
*comedy is a fine line between funny and not ok
@metallic480
5 жыл бұрын
I don’t really understand why he was fired though. I originally thought he was mocking the missing girl, but it wasn’t ? Sounds like he was just bringing light to the story and saying that she is a fan and that they will give her merch when she comes back. Plus he deleted it right when things changed and they had reason to think she wasn’t coming back. So, why was he fired?
@bingbillings4455
5 жыл бұрын
Dumb idea to do a blog about a missing girl on a blog that is supposed to be about sports and comedy
@Tx-do9fe
3 жыл бұрын
What if he kidnapped the missing girl
@damonficken3457
5 жыл бұрын
End of the day, Francis is one of my favorite bloggers. But he fucked up. It wasn’t funny and it was a stupid idea and it brought heat to your company. No idea how he thought it would ever ever go over well. I believe he’s sorry and I know it wasn’t malicious. But it was dumb and wrong. Wish him the best, I’ll follow him going forward.
@jaybrus8178
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@splitman1129
2 жыл бұрын
Theo looks both intrigued and completely lost. Kinda like kid rock
@Andrew-mm5qn
5 жыл бұрын
I love Francis but I don’t think that was the soul reason for him getting fired. He said it himself that he was just lazy. It was probably seen by everyone and himself that he didn’t want to be there anymore. That post was bad but it shouldn’t have fired him. They shouldn’t have fired him and gave him that much attention.
@sebastianlicht939
4 жыл бұрын
Frances should have put more effort into the dunkin awards
@The_dude94
5 жыл бұрын
"The ol bowling turkey" wtf?! 😂
@aliciatargaryen
5 жыл бұрын
People really reacted instead of listening to Mr. Ellis
@garykee9117
5 жыл бұрын
Alice Barbiestein seriously have you read the blog he wrote? He basically called her a slut. I’m not one for cancel culture but don’t down play what he did
@landonic81
5 жыл бұрын
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Barstool loses money every year. It's a sinkin ship
@brandonbarton9942
5 жыл бұрын
Nick barstool isn’t going anywhere unfortunately.
@landonic81
5 жыл бұрын
@@brandonbarton9942 They will if they don't make money eventually
@Tke_legend
5 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure they’re valued at over 100m. Have you ever heard of showing loses on paper to avoid taxes? They present their financial statement that way to keep them out of paying too much.
@Bigcarl69
5 жыл бұрын
As a fan of barstool it is nice to see Francis owning some responsibility despite the fact that it just happened to be an untimely mistake. He is a talented writer, and from what I can see a pretty good comedian. Looking forward to what he has to offer soon. Bummer he’s gone from the stoolie world... Thanks for having him on Theo
@buttertoast1146
2 жыл бұрын
Barstool fans are incels
@AdailyJayloss
5 жыл бұрын
So basically he’s saying he didn’t do a lot of research and wrote a typical clickbait article to get views?
@A91367
21 күн бұрын
Pathetic that he had to be fired and had to say thank you and grovel
@volcomchk143
5 жыл бұрын
Francis, BRAVO
@Rivera445
5 жыл бұрын
Firing Francis was not the move. Lame
@Vintageferguson
5 жыл бұрын
Francis you're not a comedian. Signed, any comedian
@connorwilson9949
5 жыл бұрын
Poor franny just made a bad mistake
@beastemeauxde7029
5 жыл бұрын
I also don't like that we hardly ever hear about it when a black girl goes missing.
@thebluefus
5 жыл бұрын
Beaste Meauxde That's your fault and the news you watch. I lived outside detroit for years and the news... well it was depressing. Violence in black communities is ignored and also too common to be headline news.
@beastemeauxde7029
5 жыл бұрын
@@thebluefus that's my fault? Get a life dude. I am decrying the fact that the mainstream media doesn't pay attention to the disappearances of young black girls the same as young white girls. Go back to sleep.
@Koolyococo
4 жыл бұрын
He’s a master manipulator.
@chelseyrae2271
5 жыл бұрын
I'm in Utah & regardless of the article, everyone knew that poor girl was dead. Whoever ok'd the blog to go out (if that's how it works at Barstool) needs to be fired as well. But still, 'cancel culture' should be over & I hope this guys career is still ok.
@lbraddock44
5 жыл бұрын
Chronically Chelsey that’s part of the problem with Barstool is that the editor said that for a portion of the writers they don’t even look over their work and just let them publish it automatically.
@chelseyrae2271
5 жыл бұрын
@@lbraddock44 That's a dumbass way to run any publishing house *smh*
@bbleticia8030
5 жыл бұрын
Michael Chapman yeah sex workers totally deserve to be brutally murdered
@paulsansonetti7410
2 жыл бұрын
they really fired him for this? holy hell
@DH-ij9pe
5 жыл бұрын
He's better off, Barstool sucks.
@gilbertfigueroa9456
5 жыл бұрын
Bad ass sweater bruh
@glasgowblueboxingfan9885
5 жыл бұрын
Never apologize for a joke ever .
@SkumleBones
5 жыл бұрын
kids, this is advice you dont want to listen to LOL
@gatorsback6588
5 жыл бұрын
i.e. whenever you get heat for anything you do or say simply say it was a joke and boom, problem solved.
@SkumleBones
5 жыл бұрын
@Azzury Street Its the time and place for jokes, but ya the first part of your comment its pretty much correct, but I dont think you have dignity if you make a cancer joke at a hospital
@frankastrab9539
5 жыл бұрын
Guy seems to smart to be working at Barstool anyway
@spacejamgoliath
5 жыл бұрын
two*
@SkumleBones
5 жыл бұрын
@@spacejamgoliath You're an idiot LMAO
@jonathanmartin726
5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you’ve heard, but he did go to Harvard.
@SkumleBones
5 жыл бұрын
@Fat Tyson Fury You're also an idiot LOL, "too" is correct, all you had to do was do a google search
@loganbritt1398
5 жыл бұрын
ArmedDarkly fuck Francis
@begs100
5 жыл бұрын
Dude check that name Francis Ellis, might be son of perry
@LunaWolfMXS
5 жыл бұрын
Who are they talking about?
@ryanprivette9015
5 жыл бұрын
Your mom
@keithj73
2 жыл бұрын
He's not an ass at all quite the opposite like all preppy boys im kiddin ah course
@keithj73
2 жыл бұрын
Francisco go on Matt and Shane again $
@Vintageferguson
5 жыл бұрын
Francis seems very smart, remember he is an Ivy League graduate...
@brendanbloomberg3283
5 жыл бұрын
Stupid article....
@adammcrill3262
5 жыл бұрын
They were just looking for a reason to get rid of him. I mean shit, look at the crap that goes on at Barstool.
@TheJumperYT
5 жыл бұрын
Who is the 1 dislike rn
@MrAhuraMazda
5 жыл бұрын
Portnoy
@glasselephant9785
5 жыл бұрын
cN Jumper i am number 53
@officialnothingness6740
5 жыл бұрын
Just realized the Rangers top.. hell ya brother, let me find out you’re a Rangers fan
@krusher181
5 жыл бұрын
Well he issss from Louisiana and they ain’t got a team; probably is.
@rick91146
5 жыл бұрын
Francis, once Dave got upset with your pushing your own "Brand" the writing was on the wall. You were starting to over shadow your employer. Sorry you were too talented to stay employed. This was an excuse to let you go.
@krusher181
5 жыл бұрын
How did he push his own brand? Sorry I’m new to this.
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