Just because safety isn't the primary goal of the exploration itself, doesn't mean it's ok to be overlooked...
@infrasleep
Күн бұрын
Hagen is an arrogant "I can't do wrong" billionaire, His statement seems more of a face saver for himself ("I wasn't a total ignorant idiot for getting in that thing and fluked it by coming out alive. Of course I assessed the risks") than saying anything about how Rush's "submersible" should never have taken anyone (bar Rush) to the Titanic.
@RevanHorner
Күн бұрын
Damaging the wreckage is absolutely abhorrent. This is a gravesite, and a world historic site. Unbelievable
@davedammitt7691
Күн бұрын
Oh, stop it. The thing is deteriorating so fast now that it'll be gone in 50 years. What they should do is bring everything that they can get off of the thing up to shore so at least it'll be in museums for future people to see you rather than gone forever.
@whateverwhatever5715
Күн бұрын
Titanic isn't a grave site per se , the human remains at those depths in the ocean are crushed by the water pressure and temperatures at those depths ..most of what can be salvaged from the debris field has been done for several years now , most scientists have agreed there is not much more to learn from Titanic and the wreckage is becoming more unstable making it more difficult
@Duzzies-101
Күн бұрын
@@whateverwhatever5715human bodies don't get crushed by water pressure unless you're talking about a submersible implosion. Our bodies are mostly made of water and water doesn't crush water. It's the air in our lungs that water pressure crushes, and sustaining air in deep water is what we need this technology for. The reason why fish and other animals can survive at those depths is because they don't have air inside them, they don't notice the pressure.
@mortalclown3812
Күн бұрын
Stockton Rush was a monster.
@mrnice111
Күн бұрын
I'm amazed the Titan had enough room for this guy's ego and Stockton Rush's ego.
@jdaniel3068
Күн бұрын
Hagan should face investigation himself for his arrogance at damaging the Titanic wreckage.
@hddroughnex8786
Күн бұрын
"We weren't going there for safety...." - Clearly.
@siitan83
Күн бұрын
one does not go to mount everest because its safe... they go to see if they can survive it .. and many cant
@hddroughnex8786
20 сағат бұрын
@@siitan83 Ohhh, look out! Here comes Aristotle with the prolific wisdom, here to educate the ignorant youtube masses! 1. I'm referring to the complete lack of any safety measures being taken or industry protocols and standards being followed by Oceangate, specifically illustrated by the witness's statement. 2. I'm not referring to the general thrill and adventure from attempting dangerous endeavors but even so, when attempting these types of activities you're supposed to take safety precautions and not take unnecessary risks so you DO survive. A great example of this is the pilot who did a massive skydive with no parachute. kzitem.info/news/bejne/woZ5xZxvj5-dq6wsi=v78qjpmP6tRTBMcz It was extremely dangerous but ask yourself this: Did he have a net to catch him, or was he just leaping out of a plane with no parachute to a certain death just "to see if he could survive"? He clearly took the necessary safety precautions after assessing the risks, which Oceangate did NOT do.
@MichaelPetrone-ng5yx
20 сағат бұрын
@@siitan83 With all the recent revelation why didn't anyone warn those victims that the CEO was a nut -
@hddroughnex8786
20 сағат бұрын
@@siitan83 Look out, here comes Aristotle (aka @siitan83) with the prolific wisdom, here to educate the ignorant youtube masses! 1. I'm referring to the complete lack of safety measures and deviations from industry protocols by Oceangate, illustrated by the witness's statement. 2. I'm not referring to the thrill and adventure from attempting dangerous endeavors. Even so, when attempting dangerous activities you should definitely take safety precautions, follow protocols, and not take unnecessary risks so you DO survive. A perfect example of this is the pilot who did a massive skydive with no parachute. kzitem.info/news/bejne/woZ5xZxvj5-dq6wsi=v78qjpmP6tRTBMcz This is obviously extremely dangerous, so ask yourself this: Did he have a net to catch him, or did he just leap out of a plane while hoping for the best, then plummeting to certain death? He clearly had the safety measures in place after assessing the risk, which Oceangate did NOT do.
@hddroughnex8786
20 сағат бұрын
@@siitan83 @siitan83 Look out, here comes Aristotle with the prolific wisdom, here to educate the ignorant youtube masses! 1. I'm referring to the complete lack of safety measures and deviations from industry protocols by Oceangate, illustrated by the witness's statement. 2. I'm not referring to the thrill and adventure from attempting dangerous endeavors. Even so, when attempting dangerous activities you should definitely take safety precautions, follow protocols, and not take unnecessary risks so you DO survive. A perfect example of this is the pilot who did a massive skydive with no parachute. kzitem.info/news/bejne/woZ5xZxvj5-dq6wsi=v78qjpmP6tRTBMcz This is obviously extremely dangerous, so ask yourself this: Did he have a net to catch him, or did he just leap out of a plane while hoping for the best, then plummeting to certain death? He clearly had the safety measure in place after assessing the risk, which Oceangate did NOT do.
@jeffbridges8681
Күн бұрын
I'm a daredevil myself. There is no comparison between doing something for an adrenaline rush, which is heavily regulated like sky diving, and diving in a poorly made sub. That's not the same thing. Him glorifying 'it wasn't meant to be safe' - that's ridiculous. The thrill you get from these activities does not come from danger, but the perception of danger instead. Where things are actually very safe.
@davedammitt7691
Күн бұрын
@@jeffbridges8681 it's no different than climbing Mount Everest or doing underwater cave exploration. The sad part is that he took naive, trusting passengers with him.
@jeffbridges8681
Күн бұрын
@@davedammitt7691it is very different when you do all you can to mitigate risks and any risks are fully disclosed to those embarking. To knowingly ignore the guy who gives safety warnings and then sack him removes any legitimacy from this being an adventurous activity like climbing everest. This becomes a scam.
@stephenjones8928
4 сағат бұрын
I suspect all the professional stunt people out there would agree wholeheartedly. The whole project could be described as reckless. Its guiding tone: bravado.
@jeffbridges8681
4 сағат бұрын
@@davedammitt7691 it's completely different when you focus on innovating and get carried away and end up doing something that is normally pretty safe dangerously simply because you want to be known as a maverick.
@IAmNumber4000
Күн бұрын
Think this guy learned anything about rule breaking? Lol
@Inyourhideyhole
Күн бұрын
Riiight lmfao 💀😂
@blitzmom2674
16 сағат бұрын
except Rush was telling potential passengers it was safer than crossing the street.
@Ticklestein
Күн бұрын
Anne deserves to sit at the anchor desk. Elegant look and clear voice.
@fanatamon
Күн бұрын
That minute would have felt like yrs screw that.
@zapfanzapfan
18 сағат бұрын
Wow, he is even worse than Stockton himself.
@davedammitt7691
Күн бұрын
Mr Hagan is right. Anyone that went down there thinking that it wasn't dangerous, was delusional. It's no different than putting civilians in one of spacex's flights to the moon. You hope to come back okay, but nobody should be shocked if you don't.
@britishrocklovingyank3491
Күн бұрын
Except there is a long history of dives that deep going safely. This wasn't a case of danger while having a vessel that is designed for the mission. This was a garbage sub that was incapable of doing what was supposed to be done. What you and Hagan think is adventure is suicide.
@davedammitt7691
Күн бұрын
@@britishrocklovingyank3491 Yeah, and there was a long history of space flights going successfully to before the Columbia and the Challenger. And those weren't junkyard vehicles at all. They were designed and built by supposedly some of the best engineers on the planet, no budget restraints, and decades of testing data to depend on.
@halomultiplayermoments
Күн бұрын
It’s massively different and your comment is uneducated at best. Space x have tested extensively. Oceangate where taking a maverick approach to safety. Space x don’t do that.
@halomultiplayermoments
Күн бұрын
@@davedammitt7691the two nasa incidents you mentioned both have one factor in common. Taking a shallow approach to safety. Many said the challenger should never have launched in such cold weather this was highlighted at the time but those in charge pushed for the launch. The Columbia was known to have had wing damage. NASA could have inspected the wing whilst in space it chose not to and re entered the atmosphere knowing something could happen and it did. All 3 incidents (titan included) demonstrate a lack of concern for safety.
@davedammitt7691
Күн бұрын
@@halomultiplayermoments point taken. And we know that space travel and deep ocean travel are risking dangerous, because humans are involved, and humans want to push deadlines, meet budgets, etcetera etcetera. Doesn't matter how much money was put into it how brilliant the engineers are, there are always risks in new ways of doing things. Would you have taken the first or second flight on the Concorde? If so, and it crashed, your family or whoever shouldn't be all upset.... It was an obvious risk that you chose to take. Luckily, the Concorde never crashed, but taking an early flight on that was certainly much much much much much more risky than taking a flight on a 747
@Tom-zy6ke
Күн бұрын
Oceangate was all about money, image, prestige and speed (time is money). Safety is expensive and time consuming so it was ignored and 5 people paid with their lives. We already know enough about material science that we didn't need 5 deaths to teach us how NOT to make a manned submersible
@joeshittheragman6252
Күн бұрын
"Tragedy" more like Criminal Negligence
@siitan83
Күн бұрын
its like climbing the mount everest.. one does not go and do it because its safe.... they go and see if they can survive it... and many cant
@vmarsfiles
Күн бұрын
Why they kept going to it is crazy....in a experimental craft
@mortalclown3812
Күн бұрын
The fact that it was hit by lightning and allowed to keep making dives is just one of Rush's criminally idiotic moves.
@kate2create738
11 сағат бұрын
So what are the chances that Titanic’s deterioration was escalated by Rush’s poor piloting skills?
@coldspring624
Күн бұрын
way to butcher a story
@jesusfirst3426
Күн бұрын
I remember when the titan imploded last year.. prayers to the families of those killed.
@wazzazone
Күн бұрын
Cowboy for sure.
@mercoid
12 сағат бұрын
It was HARROWING
@ralphfigaro4485
7 сағат бұрын
specialist or passenger ?
@ForestRogers
4 сағат бұрын
I’d say tourist.
@katiefeldmann3846
50 минут бұрын
Because it was an uncertified vessel no "passengers" would be allowed to dive. Stockton had a workaround call those passengers/tourists mission specialists. This absolved Oceangate of doing the rigorous testing to gain the certification as a passenger submersible.
@dr.darkroom
Күн бұрын
Making waves? Shit news company. Not to mention there's a voice constantly speaking in the background.
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