Did they buff shaman or is the rework so bad ppl are re rolling outta shaman ?
@strugl3snugle245
3 ай бұрын
@@vaylox09 What rework??
@Levelity
3 ай бұрын
@@vaylox09 They did almost nothing to Shamans.
@diegostrossen6751
3 ай бұрын
What is the issue with shamans? besides button bloat and aoe cap for enha and the boring as hell season 3 elemental tierset overwriting their entire spell rotation with meatballs and storm being unviable?
@Levelity
3 ай бұрын
@@diegostrossen6751 From a PvP perspective we are getting left in the dust by the utility, mobility and defensives other classes are upgrading to. From a PVE perspective they didn't address defensives at all and I'm not sure but how many specs don't get any capstone talents of their class tree. Enhance doesn't choose any of them.
@jayjays_shed2158
3 ай бұрын
The feedback of the spells are underwhelming, obliterates look and feel average and frost strike feels and looks like a wet noodle whip.
@themobster7284
3 ай бұрын
@@jayjays_shed2158 Is bad... Ever since BFA Frost has been trash can, not sure why, but F blizzard... Also f the idiots that say DK is strong.. Hell even Blood is weaker, and UH too.... Seems there wont be justice for DKs specially Frost any time soon...
@yomamapkme
3 ай бұрын
well.... pvp feel very damn slow on the beta so I wouldn't go so far about the class feeling good just yet. We will have to see how they will fix the pvp damage numbers first.
@RaggokOozo
3 ай бұрын
This is very true. DKs are benefitting from high health pools and overall slower TTK. That goes away, and well...
@baorc7015
2 ай бұрын
worst pvp spec for over 10 years, only competitive with tank specializations in rated 3v3s. Lets see what actually happens in TWW season 1
@chaoshunting5659
3 ай бұрын
...riding a horse dosent make our class better. frost needs a total rework. get rid of having to choose between 2h and dw and make that part of the class cosmetic. they cant even balance 2h vs breath and you want to add another build in...
@GalavantGaming
3 ай бұрын
And people mocked me for being a Frost DK for years🤣🤣🤣
@eliotness107
3 ай бұрын
I love the Deathbringer hero talents for PVE, specially for frost and blood spec. Its possible to make a build that makes Blood Plague do massive amounts of danage as blood DK
@baorc7015
2 ай бұрын
imagine a pvp tier list where frost dk is not c tier. We shall see how many nerfs happen 2nd week into the season
@Blood_Ronin
3 ай бұрын
You really need to know what is nerfed vs not in pvp. So much misinformation in this video.
@lh9072
3 ай бұрын
I actually think deathbringer looks cooler with the huge scythes and what not as you attack.
@iridiumvalkyrie9017
3 ай бұрын
Can't have strangulate and asphyxiate anymore booo
@drewwil891
3 ай бұрын
I’ll believe it when I see it!
@Millirawk
3 ай бұрын
This is what is making me come back to WOW finally!!!
@shindigidy2286
3 ай бұрын
only took em an embarrassing amount of time lol
@MrNigro02
3 ай бұрын
Is sustain still a problem?
@Cyl444444
3 ай бұрын
100%
@azeluk
2 ай бұрын
I hate the bos build will riders still fit obliteration?
@ryanmarquez278
3 ай бұрын
Is it any good in mythic plus or just pvp?
@themobster7284
3 ай бұрын
@@ryanmarquez278 Frost is both the worst mele and worst spec in the entire game PvP or pve..
@marekstarzyk9355
3 ай бұрын
Dual wield weaker than 2h ? 😢
@kain1638
3 ай бұрын
frost is back in the same way you said blood dks were a menace in shuffle
@Chiz558
3 ай бұрын
They are a menace lol. I had a blood DK in a 2k mmr shuffle the other day and he went 6-0
@kain1638
3 ай бұрын
@@Chiz558 I just don't trust blizz
@wtbskilllololo
3 ай бұрын
@@kain1638 theres actually few guys that are past 2400 on a few bdks on the soloq Ladder currently even on EU all 4 top BDKs are the same guy xD
@Kipacus
3 ай бұрын
I am taking a big hit of Copium but I hope this is Frosts xpac especially in PvP, because my other main Enhance Shaman ain't looking too hot. Id hate to have to reroll something totally new.
@tingersj
3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to playing my Frost DK but looks like the spec will still be weak in PvP vs Physical damage classes.
@themobster7284
3 ай бұрын
Actually the Frost DK is weak againts everything, since is just so bad, and has low dmg, and low sustain... Back in WOD was amazing in pvp it did wreck even tanks.. These days cant kill even a fly...
@ItsMrDon
3 ай бұрын
shouldent you be going dw with this build?
@Erik1495
3 ай бұрын
I hadnt thought about it before because the gameplay of deathbringer compliments obliteration so good, but you are right lmao visually it is nothing... Specially compared to rider of the apocalypse
@cc66bb44
3 ай бұрын
wait do frost riders spec does enough dps for PVP?
@RaggokOozo
3 ай бұрын
Better than deathbringer, IMO. Deathbringer requires high uptime, Riders don't.
@Shetyre
3 ай бұрын
does Death Strike work differently now or something?
@eugenesternin6039
3 ай бұрын
Also, imagine this kind of rework for shamans....
@SavageInk-yx6sn
2 ай бұрын
Is that horse charger going to be a mount as well? Or it’s only the ability
@Desertsol1
3 ай бұрын
Finaly, our time has come! Have you tried DW as frost in TWW?
@Thanagor779
3 ай бұрын
DK finally not made of paper?? :O
@shindigidy2286
3 ай бұрын
even though im super conflicted who to main as im likely dropping my evoker for warlock and now after playing and seeing the changes with DK maybe it, these new hero talents for them actually make me feel excited for as class which WoW hasn't done for me in ages
@johnathonramirez4190
3 ай бұрын
I feel the same but everytime frost gets that hype Blizz shuts them down just like Shamans. Usually days before or after release.
@dewkong_
3 ай бұрын
I will probably be doing Windwalker main, and Frost DK alt
@julien3703
3 ай бұрын
Hi dk frost is a good dps m+ ? for the new extension or is a trash ?
@navistormrage5057
3 ай бұрын
FINALYYYYYY after 1000 years frost looks good
@froller2
3 ай бұрын
is dnd in aoe still a thing?
@giovannix108
3 ай бұрын
ok time to main dk again hell ya
@aleksavukotic1511
3 ай бұрын
Is dual wield frost viable ?
@ivartheberserker9918
3 ай бұрын
No one wants this
@Arnaud10
3 ай бұрын
@@ivartheberserker9918 i want dual wield. This is the first specialisation who stand out when the death knight come out. and in cata two hands arrival. make me sick
@chaoshunting5659
3 ай бұрын
@@Arnaud10 you could 2h and wrath buddy
@Arnaud10
3 ай бұрын
@@chaoshunting5659 i still prefer dual wield
@Arnaud10
3 ай бұрын
@@chaoshunting5659 i still prefer dual wield
@Daylyfe
3 ай бұрын
The flower is growing🌻it's gonna feel good
@diegost2112
3 ай бұрын
I prefer the deathbringuer talents, i don't like mounted combat and summons, also it feels so dumb for a two handed or DW melee character to attack while mounted. I'd like frost to have access to the San'layn hero talents.
@eugenesternin6039
3 ай бұрын
Does horse work in arena tho?
@Rydiculous
2 ай бұрын
Not the permanent one. That ones only in outdoor zones. The one that lasts 10 seconds or whatever it is works in arena.
@vaylox09
3 ай бұрын
Pvp will always be about who has the most utility and burst damage. So if it's just a sustain damage melee class ppl it won't do well
@Kurnhelios
3 ай бұрын
Not only that, unholy just simply offers more. You have an extra kick, an extra stun, 2 extra healing absorbs, more comp options etc
@stoopidyoutubehandle
3 ай бұрын
I don’t think Frost ever had burst damage issues. It’s not viable because of huge death strike pvp modifier and recent pan-armor silly change. Now frost dk is officially the most easy target to take down. TheWW may change its state but I don’t have high hopes.
@DankMemes-xq2xm
3 ай бұрын
Is DND cleave still a thing?
@Cyl444444
3 ай бұрын
yes , for frost dk , DnD makes your obliterate hit two additional targets . but they have a LOT of other aoe in the new tree to help out during downtime
@DankMemes-xq2xm
3 ай бұрын
@@Cyl444444 ugh
@SlayerDK
3 ай бұрын
We have amazing passive defensive skills, and I also have very strong active defensive skills - as befits a DK,
@coreyros3
3 ай бұрын
PIN FIRST
@tomselby24
3 ай бұрын
does it matter if u go Dual wield anymore i like talent changes so far hero talents meh but the overall redesign looks like we have some counter play coming :D
@Kurnhelios
3 ай бұрын
If we go duel wield we’ll probably do fallen crusader + stoneskin gargoyle (can be used on 1-handers now). We’ll get plenty of razorice stacks through talents so no need to runeforge it
@enzoshink7597
3 ай бұрын
Looks like 1hand will be slightly ahead of 2 hand for both bos and oblit build. But if u are going oblit choose what you have more fun
@chaoshunting5659
3 ай бұрын
dw will allways be ahead of 2h just from balance. nobody wanted another dw build.
@ionlybluffAA
3 ай бұрын
Frost is supposed to be tank spec....
@Kurnhelios
3 ай бұрын
16 years too late on that one bro
@ionlybluffAA
3 ай бұрын
@@fok8810 frost tank > dps
@ionlybluffAA
3 ай бұрын
@@Kurnhelios either way..... unholy is god tier > frost dps anyways... so...
@themobster7284
3 ай бұрын
@@ionlybluffAA UH is also crap.. Also it should be deleted, or reworked entirely, as this is NO DK at all, is actually plate lock with sword, it suck hard to play with this garbage pet class....
@ionlybluffAA
3 ай бұрын
@@themobster7284 explains your hatred.... "too hard to play" LOL sigh...............
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