I think people are missing the point. Warframes dont need a rework only when they are bad. Warframes need a rework when they have 0 identity. Frost atm isnt bad. Hes boring, hes dated and his abilities have no synergy between them. Hes also very 1-dimensional, meaning he only has 1 way to build. Either u go biting frost and Icy avalance or you are unable to play on high levels. Its also sad that on a warframe called frost cold damage needs to be avoided while on the contrary ember absolutely loves heat damage. With the proposed changes I didnt want to just make him good but give him the cold based warframe identity he is missing aswell as allowing him to have variety in his builds like other frames do
@maxinea.sakaki4151
2 ай бұрын
Ember is also in the need a rework wagon
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
@@maxinea.sakaki4151 not at all imo, but a buff would be welcome on her 2
@ChaothicCanine
2 ай бұрын
Why Frost? why not Nyx?
@maxinea.sakaki4151
2 ай бұрын
@@ChaothicCanine or Valkyr or Loki
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
@@maxinea.sakaki4151 just because frost needs a rework does not mean others dont.. nyx has more of an identity than frost does and I would only really rework her 4 and buff the rest of her kit. Valkyr's whole kit is also dated as hell and is in desperate need of a rework for sure. Loki is fine in terms of kit, he could use a buff or 2 but in general its the game's direction thats really gating him, not his kit. He can work even in this meta and thats just shows how robust his whole kit is
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
MY FACE WHEN PABLO IS LITERALLY REWORKING FROST A DAY AFTER THIS VIDEO AND MAKES FROST PASSIVE SIMILAR TO EMBER PASSIVE
@daSora_1
2 ай бұрын
Bro is a master in yapology 😭
@ultimatewill5283
2 ай бұрын
W
@raphaellfms
2 ай бұрын
What are some other inside news that you have for us?
@Wooskii1
2 ай бұрын
7:30 and you're already gone too far lol. Frost will have 6 seconds invincibility, then overgaurd, then an overgaurd gate, then (over) shield with adaptation, then a shield gate, all while enemies are AoE armor stripped, frozen, and debuffed/ vulnerable with a spike in CC + CD on top... I love it lol.
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
Do be too much lol but it's just suggestions. Frost needs a huge rework tho.
@allgamebeija
2 ай бұрын
@@Huh-0.1 Would it tho? Inaros and Hydroid got reworks and.. well, do you actually see any Hydroids even after?
@Wooskii1
2 ай бұрын
@@allgamebeija Well, I would play Frost regardless cause I already do after his augment. The only thing that bugs me is his energy economy isn't great., but I still need to do some build tweaks.
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
@@allgamebeija If you think about it both inaros and hydroid's reworks are just... "we added armor strip"
@nguyenhuyduc9151
2 ай бұрын
I@@allgamebeija im pretty sure i see hydroid far more than frost.
@maxinea.sakaki4151
2 ай бұрын
That aged real fast lmao
@nopayoff3552
2 ай бұрын
Frost: The Augment Frame
@clevelandgeorge8226
2 ай бұрын
"you are in no need of protectng the objective, for five years now" 😂 i totally agree. With the kind of Warframes we're getting you could protect and destroy at the same time.
@WithBryN
2 ай бұрын
As a frost main this is a little overkill in my personal opinion after playing frost for about 3 years now all he needs is better survivability and a few augments being built into his kit. For example, biting frost should just be his passive with the new cold status update all of his abilities including ice wave will be able to freeze making him have extremely high weapon dps potential, ice wave impendence should be built into ice wave this means after freezing the enemies for a set duration you will also slow them continuously after making this an extremely powerful cc ability without changing the ability drastically, as for snow globe I've had this idea for a while and i feel like it would flow so much better with frost's kit whilst not changing the core aspect of him too much - I think that you should be able to pick up snow globe and walk around with it like an artic eximus however you're teammates should be able to shoot in and out of it so as to not hinder you're teammates gameplay, they should also buff how much health the globe has or make it so that you gain a set amount of overgaurd when you pick up the globe also the globe should NOT scale of range because having a big snow globe is not wanted by a single frost main. Finally, freeze is honestly an ability that's up in the air it can get reworked into what you suggested in the video or kept the same as it's just a free helminth slot.
@besabaftw
2 ай бұрын
What about if snow globe could be picked up by frost but it shrinks when he does, like with volt and his electric shield? Seems reasonable
@WithBryN
2 ай бұрын
@@besabaftw wait that is actually a really good idea yeah that would solve the range problem and if u stand on an objective with it you'd be able to have two layers of globes ontop of it great idea
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
As a non-frost main you are welcome
@xanthacanthus
2 ай бұрын
I love having a mandatory augment for survivability and another mandatory augment to have a good passive and needing high efficiency and duration and range and decent strength so my armor strip works
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
I love shit gara
@eliarossetti6724
2 ай бұрын
💀
@jq2762
2 ай бұрын
That moment when he got reworked after this vid came out
@WithBryN
2 ай бұрын
He don't even need anything special just making biting frost and icy avalanche built into his kit without needing augments would push him up into a top tier warframe.
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
That was not the point. The point is that his kit is extremely outdated and it needs changes. Frost is boring
@quodsto
2 ай бұрын
This frame boring ahh hell 😭 💀
@itsKimi
2 ай бұрын
he don't. just use augments.
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
Omw to put 500 augments on outdated gara wannabe just to make it somehow usable.
@divine65
2 ай бұрын
your brain needs augments
@WithBryN
2 ай бұрын
That's the problem augments are supposed to be optional mods that add more variety for builds however for frost. Biting frost and icy avalanche are mandatory u can't make a build without the two augments and if you do you get significantly worse performance from the warframe itself as a frost main I think most of his augments should be part of his base kit the ones (biting frost should be his passive ice wave impendence should be built in as well as icy avalanche). This would actually save up mod slots on frost allowing him to make much more versatile build without solely relying on augments
@PhasmalForge
2 ай бұрын
all i saw from this video was that you want Frost to be a combination of other warframes, in other words you want frost to be a rip off of others.
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
Imo u should try the game warframe and play all characters and THEN repeat your comment.
@PhasmalForge
2 ай бұрын
@@Huh-0.1 you assume i dont play the game , when i do and have for years
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
@@PhasmalForge If you did then you would know that most frames have similar abilities. No i don't assume that u don't play the game. U just don't play the game.
@PhasmalForge
2 ай бұрын
@@Huh-0.1 thats funny asf , cause ive been playing the game for years. To assume someone doesnt play a game just to piss them off is just childish behaviour.
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
@@PhasmalForge You know what's even funnier tho? Playing the game for "years" and not knowing most frames work the same. Truely a comedy moment. I love 70yo people that don't know anything.
@proximityclockworkx1572
2 ай бұрын
Frost's biggest issue is that he has only his 4 to rely on in SP cuz all his other abilities are super useless. Even then, you need augments just to not die, and his 4 consumes a lot of energy while also very slow to cast, which is very bad cuz you are basically forced to use Primed Flow (but even with that, his energy reserves are pitiful for such a cast heavy frame) and at least 1 casting speed shard if not 2. Need also blues for energy max and red for strength so you hit the full strip treshold easier. I could go on and on, but I won't. I'm just happy that more people talk about Frost and how he needs a rework. People shat on Inaros all day everyday cuz he has "no abilities". But refuse to give a shit when Frost has Avalanche and that's it. People who say Frost is fine are part of the problem. I don't want to rely on augments because the base abilities suck.
@traineryvar7123
2 ай бұрын
I have 2 cast speed tauforged 1 blue tau for energy and the others for power strenght Copium overload
@BlariWF
2 ай бұрын
Made a build for him about 2 months ago and bro is insane? Worst part about him is the energy economy since he needs 2 augments. I think he's fine
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
How is he insane if he does same exact thing other frame does but...worse (gara (noway))
@macmuffinz1641
2 ай бұрын
@@Huh-0.1seems like you just discovered the concept of "meta" lmao Frost is just good how he is, but I guess people like you and this shituger gotta cry about stuff all the time for.. reasons ? Anyway
@divine65
2 ай бұрын
hes shit, so is what is in ur cranium
@Darthmufin
2 ай бұрын
@@Huh-0.1 I didn't realize gara instantly freezes all enemies in a room, armor strips them, gives everyone overguard, and then lets you one shot them with anything. Good to know!
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
@@Darthmufin ...come on dude
@HolyCarp0
2 ай бұрын
i enjoyed using frosts 4 for full armor strip in 40 meters range and his biting frost augment that makes him literally a crit delay + vital sense and more, too bad it takes so many mods for the range to be bearable you dont have space for energy regen, more strength (for nourish or the +100% cold damage augment), more range or even tankiness, but still fun for me due to having to look out for enemies and energy consumption to survive
@Akszew
2 ай бұрын
chroma needs a rework maybe
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@arne6319
2 ай бұрын
Make biting frost augment his passive alrdy improves him a lot, make snow glow scale like rhinos iron skin or smth and give him better range so u dont have to mod so much for range thats all he needs
@JayDee-vq5rf
2 ай бұрын
Every time I see a player consider a frames augments, It just feels like copium. Why are we just overlooking the fact that augments shouldn't exist and take up valuable capacity? Just delete them and put a check box for all the ones you want to apply or removing excluding no overlapping options.
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
Maybe not all but...some? that i could agree, like cathode current or molecular fission. Some augments are just straight up mandatory to play...and augments are supposed to be OPTIONAL. DE moment tbh. Why change ability if u can add cope augment instead fr.
@deuterium2718
2 ай бұрын
taveuni man do need some love and "identity", just i guess not top of my theoretical priority list, and yeah im on the "he's actually kinda so strong its boring" side of the argument, its just not boring in the way dante is boring, at least dante can put most of his kit to good use in every mission and has at least some build variety, frost is just cast 4 to invalid anything not CC immune, and make anything CC immune have to 1v1 you while they're reduced to the strength of a coughing baby. I call him Taveuni man for a reason, it's the only place i regularly see him, it's the only place i regularly play him, and i don't have fun, the frost player doesn't have fun, you bring him out for a chore. also kinda in the biting frost disliker gang, but it does get a bit more useful at higher levels and with murmur i guess, anything that's actually vulnerable to it is armor stripped vs a guy who regularly just runs toxin, heat or gas, the red numbers are cool, but it's just cruel and unusual punishment by that point.
@joonashannila8751
2 ай бұрын
No does not need a rework. Frost is in a better place, than he has ever been before. You do realize he can fully armor strip enemies in tens of meters with just 167% strength? Even Eximus, Acolytes and other special enemies. Biting Frost gives additive crit chance to some, flat crit chance to some.. And double calculated crit chance to some weapons. He can generate Overguard. He can shield gate. He ca do True Damage. Just because you have no gotten properly into Frost, and played him enough.. Does not mean he is a bad frame, and needs a rework. It simply means you do not know this frame enough to say yet. Frost is an extremely solid frame. You simply do not know this frame, and his workings well enough. Did you know Frost can make Stahlta, Angstrum, Gammacor or Gorgon for example do red crits? Highly doubt it. Frost is an extremely solid well balanced frame. He does not need a rework on anything. He can stand his own at any content we have in the game currently, without putting any helminths on him. He has survivability, damage & support. Also you are aware Cold damage is being reworked? Frost DOES NOT have only one way to build him. Frost can take out level cap enemeis even with his Snow Globe.
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
Why do you want frost to stay dated. Why do you not want our warframes to be more interesting and more fun to play? Why are you okay with DE band aid fixing warframes by slapping an augment onto them and calling it a day. Frost is in a good spot, but hes boring as shit. He has 0 identity, he has 0 ability synergies and he is extremely unfun to play on higher levels + he is 1 dimensional. In a game where garuda, gauss and nova exist frost is in desperate need of a rework
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
You are also saying this to me as if im some clueless mofo and i have 5k hours in the game and i said exactly what his current kit does including his augments step by step. "Did you know he can do this, highly doubt it" ye bro im just saying all this out of my ass
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
"Frost DOES NOT have only one way to build him" proof? Send me your builds without having at least 2 or 3 augments(band-aids) in them. Thanks.
@8bitmemorylane166
2 ай бұрын
Naah bro, he's fine
@ho2voglia3di1un7quasson
2 ай бұрын
Guess what? they are gonna change his 3th like you said (they advertised it in the stream). Sorry for bad english
@magiickarma4460
2 ай бұрын
Moug if you make a top 10 warframe list I may or may not donate $30
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
Well I have planned a tier list anyways for the forseeable future
@divine65
2 ай бұрын
fr
@pinktr_ee
2 ай бұрын
didn't they just change him in the next update lol
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
Yes, literally 22 hours after this video was uploaded
@StillbornGravity
2 ай бұрын
frost is one of my main frames, he's OP as is. anyone who cant use him to lvl 9999 is more of a playstyle/skill issue.
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
yea thats why hes getting reworked..
@StillbornGravity
2 ай бұрын
@@WispGraxx armor strip, over shields, broken synergies, true dmg, ppl just complained enough to get him buffed. Notice I said buffed, not reworked as you claim. big difference between the two. they fixed his status to be a true cold which it should of been, and fixed his dumb passive. He won't be getting a rework cuz DE knows he's strong, but they want to pander to their audience.
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
@@StillbornGravity i think you should go and read the changes, its a rework. You cant freeze enemies anymore unless they are already cold procced by any sources. He has a new passive and 2 out of his 4 abilities also work completely differently than how they did before. He will have an identity now and the "spam 4 to play" playstyle will finally be replaced with something more active
@Huh-0.1
2 ай бұрын
Frost players try to make a comment without coping challenge tbh.
@StillbornGravity
2 ай бұрын
@@Huh-0.1 frost is OP, a buff is nice,he will be more OP. but de said themselves, its a buff not a rework, regardless of what u want to call it. i am legendary 4, founder, with 17k hours in the game, when de says its a buff, not a rework, its a buff. I'm just trying to cope with idiots like u that makes claims with nothing to back them up. you're prolly just a low MR new player of the week, trying to understand words that rebecca says, instead of just listening.
@fromretroville
2 ай бұрын
put all the augments into the base kit and then make new augments 5head
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
Actually care about your game and make a new kit for an old character that needs it noway
@shlimdidly4968
2 ай бұрын
u probs should see my frost
@WispGraxx
2 ай бұрын
Why
@shlimdidly4968
2 ай бұрын
Actually I've re thought my comment and even tho I've only seen the 1st few seconds I know exactly where Ur going with this
@shlimdidly4968
2 ай бұрын
He Def's could use one I'm guessing Ur about to talk about how he's just 4 spam and the rest of his abilities are memes tho I'd say bubble is kinda o.p it's nothing compared to 4 and macro spamming max efficiency godmode abilities isn't exactly a fun gameplay
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