Wouldn't an LL connection make more sense for access off of the disconnect box to the spa?
@Citizen16603
2 жыл бұрын
That’s kinda lame. As the homeowner, I would have wanted a LL. Easy to get one unless you’re at a remote install.
@kidR0BOT
2 жыл бұрын
@@Citizen16603 how many electricians know of LL’s and LR’s let alone homeowners
@SpringRubber
2 жыл бұрын
@@kidR0BOT I bet you are right. As an oldish DIYer who once worked the retail aisles in the electric dept, my intuition is telling me LL, LB, LR refer to orientation of the box cover to the lugs, i.e. Left, Back, Right.
@electricianron_New_Jersey
Жыл бұрын
@@Citizen16603 the only person that even notices that stuff is the electrician.
@robertgregory2618
Жыл бұрын
@@kidR0BOT Most....
@jimfrydenlund27
6 күн бұрын
This is a great video and I think you are the most detailed electrician I have found. I am very grateful that you made this video. Thank you!
@mikedewan7011
11 ай бұрын
This was a great video. As a professional electrician myself, but mostly commercial/industrial background, this was easily the best video I came across showing wiring a hot tub. Specifically I was looking at wiring methods at the hot tub itself, comparing Teck90 (Canada), to PVC, seal tite, I can't tell you how fun this video was to watch. I watched it on double speed it was awesome. You are very detail oriented and have great vocabulary. There is no way I could explain out loud what I'm doing, as I'm doing it the way that you do.
@bobbysmith9803
Жыл бұрын
I loved this video because it seems like you take your work way to serious “as do I” this has to be one of the best videos on KZitem thank you so much!!!
@jisla2
2 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful. So much learnt and so much safety tips in every single step from a professional. Thanks for making such a channel. 🙏
@innovationwebdesign6631
10 ай бұрын
I'm very impressed with the hot tub wiring installation you completed - it's outstanding. On the other hand, the existing wiring in the house could improve cable management; it's not as tidy and well-arranged as your work.
@frankmilenkovic4993
Жыл бұрын
Super impressive. Not the installation, but the confidence to upload this. Looks like a kijiji job. You can do better, quote accordingly 👍
@jr42a1
Жыл бұрын
Those big hammerdrills can do a number on a guys head when they "lock up" right before penetration or in cement with rebar. Ive told many a guy that and then they learn !! Actually, you get a quick lockup on the bit a lotta times right before penetration on a layer. When you feel that (and sometimes hear) i always back off hard on pressure and let the drill spin so the bit doesnt bite and throw you. Sometimes I even run the hammerdrill fast in reverse so that it doesnt bite and throw you on the final stroke on a layer. YOU ARE ON POINT !!
@mike93lx
2 жыл бұрын
Glue on the NM jacket, stripping the NM jacket leaving unlabeled wires, NM outside when you can transition to THWN indoors, running wire in an incomplete conduit, an LB that is the wrong choice for the application? I've enjoyed a lot of your videos, but this is not a good example of what should be done
@patdowsakul4564
2 жыл бұрын
After watching your video, I'm ready to install my new bullfrog Hot Tub, Thank you and great video :)
@justinjohnson3556
11 ай бұрын
Great video and great quality! I enjoyed watching this all the way through. Thank you for the helpful content. I highly recommend it!
@kevinlott9626
2 жыл бұрын
Joel... Great reminder concerning PVC expanding and contracting. An a retired owner of a landscaping company, I had many instances from other companies where glued joints failed because the pipes weren't properly "climatized". Here in Oregon, fluctuations in the winter and summer can be quite frustrating for the inexperienced greenhorn. 🙂
@ranger178
2 жыл бұрын
I made the mistake of buying pvc gutters and they had rubber seals to let gutter slide in and out at each 10-foot piece into a fixed bracket. you had to pick how far into bracket each end was depending on temperature. but the seals would tear and wear out so it leaked at each section, and you could not caulk it
@davegeorge7094
Жыл бұрын
@@ranger178 The great thermal PVC expansion is news to me too. I'm here to learn.
@chaseohara4781
Жыл бұрын
That panel, though... The romex zip tied together as it swung across the huge gap to the wall there just made me wince.
@gerard143
2 жыл бұрын
This has to be the best how to video I have ever seen. Nice job. Crazy good video. This installer could also be a phenomenal training class instructor/teacher.
@jsn1080
2 ай бұрын
My thoughts as well.
@BenPeryam
4 ай бұрын
Great instructional video. Thanks!
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
46:22 You should have ditched the LB and gotten an LL. The conduit running down the wall of the house looks janky to me, too. The connection on the box is much farther from the wall surface than the LB going into the house. Bringing that LB off of the house (with some conduit that I'd want through the brick anyways) would have looked nicer. I don't know for sure whether it's really a problem, but I don't like the stress/bend on the PVC beneath the hot-tub, either. Either dig the trench straight, or put the appropriate bends into the conduit. But, that's me.
@Silky_boi
Жыл бұрын
Cool video and great work, I work in hvac so I know what it’s like dealing with thick wires in small boxes 😫, I always get fatter disconnects just for that reason.
@cbarr0288
2 жыл бұрын
The attention to detail is phenomenal these are some tips and techniques only a pro would know.
@JohnThomas-lq5qp
Жыл бұрын
Great that people got out of their way to produce so many DIY vidios but entire vidio should be code compliant. Not only dangerous but sure johnny homeowner that flunks an inspection because he followed a flawed vidio. I've been a sparky for over 50 years and went to over a hundred continuing education classes and read two separate code questions of the day and still learning and trying to keep up with the over thousand code changes every three years when the newest NEC book comes out.
@richardevon6410
Жыл бұрын
Nobody explains this stuff better than you, Joel. Nobody!
@matthewpalmer5150
Жыл бұрын
You CAN put romex in a conduit, but NOT in this scenario, code prohibits it from in conduit in wet locations, which means, not outdoor.
@leonardhorsford6327
Жыл бұрын
Also prohibited to strip romex and use as he is whether outside or not.
@Kevin-wj4ed
Жыл бұрын
Even if the , conducters inside the romex is thhn 2?
@danharvey464
Жыл бұрын
Who cares
@trp2413
9 ай бұрын
You can use NM in conduit but it has to be derated more often than not soooooo is it economical?
@roshanmahavithanage6312
7 ай бұрын
Romex in conduit for few feet is fine and since it's above ground it's ok for heat disapation. Thwn is used for the actual run.
@mathman0101
2 жыл бұрын
Joel the content is just superb you are the man. Nice tip on drilling large holes with a smaller drill - in the UK it’s called stitch drilling, or you could use a core drill. I like the Marx man pen a lot for location positioning and drill anchors identification.
@mikehill4940
2 жыл бұрын
Good video. I would hate to post my work and have people nit pick on it. We have local codes that don't allow us to use romex to a Hot Tub Disconnect. They require insulated ground from the indoor panel. We pipe and pull everything. That was a strange GFCI cover you had there. Never seen one. We also are required to use expandable covers. We do a hot tub almost everyday. That's about 1500 for us. But maybe I should take another look at our prices. About 5-6 hours for 1 guy. My local also won't let us fill the conduit like that. They count all conductors by the largest size so you would have had 5 #6 by our local standards. As if code isn't bad enough they have to locally make it worse. I would have put a 50 amp CH on the inside. Not sure why you didn't since everything was sized for it. Good stuff. Keep up the good work. Got to be a pain having someone video and edit these things for you. Respect.
@mikehill4940
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricProAcademy I'm in St. Louis. I own a company a lot like yours called Accurate Electric.
@gregrivera8520
11 ай бұрын
very nice job. however, the camera guy was a bit shaky while trying to get the closeup.
@anthonyjenningssupportstaf1325
7 күн бұрын
doesn't the disconnect need to be 10 feet away from the hot tub?
@JohnThomas-lq5qp
2 жыл бұрын
Was told that you can no longer install 2 of the same size grounded conductors in the same terminal. No such thing as a Neutral in the NEC. If approved you can install two same side ground wires in a terminal.
@JohnThomas-lq5qp
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricProAcademy Was told about the no go for 2 grounded conductors under one screw at an IAEI continuing education class a few years ago. Makes sense. If somebody wanted to remove one grounded wire and the other white conductor feed say a multi wire circuit you could easier burn everything out one of the two energized circuits from over voltage if you loose the grounded conductor connection even for a second. Now with AFCI protection required for just about every residential circuit multi wire circuits will no longer be used.
@davegeorge7094
Жыл бұрын
Looks like plumber forgot that standing copper pipe will freeze. haha
@0blivioniox864
Жыл бұрын
Knowledgeable. Detail oriented. Intelligent. Critical thinker. This is the kind of guy I would want on any project. Thank you for sharing your best practices and everything else. There needs to be more of you out there.
@leesummers6979
Ай бұрын
As long as you don't want a code compliant install.
@talipucp
3 күн бұрын
😮😮😮😮@@leesummers6979
@wizard3z868
2 жыл бұрын
i must be old fashoined but you ever heard of duct seal great to lay a bead around all couplings and fill voids in structure and a bead around the sides and most of the box on the outside. you want to leave a little gap at the bottem just in case some water gets behind it can drain out
@craigslaunwhite579
2 жыл бұрын
I imagine that an LR or LL conduit body fitting would have been preferable over the common LB that was fitted in this situation. Totally understandable though. Gota work with what you got. An LR conduit body would have allowed for the TW wire to be pulled
@donl1410
2 жыл бұрын
Well, an LL should have been used for the branch circuit to the spa. I really don't agree, [you have to work with what you have.] The correct conduit body should have been accounted for on the initial material take-off, as nearly everthing else was. If it was overlooked then a trip to the supply house to get the correct part should have been made. Cost of doing business.
@illestofdemall13
2 жыл бұрын
@@donl1410 I see someone who posts their electrical installations on IG and they use LBs for every scenario. It is really annoying to my OCD.
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
@@illestofdemall13 I think anything other than an LB looks weird, but it isn't always the right one for the job.
@bcb6634
Жыл бұрын
It looked like your conduit was white pvc water pipe which is an absolute wrong product and would fail inspection. But when I looked closely at the pipe printing I saw it said conduit on it. I always thought electrical conduit was gray.
@itstimetounlearn
25 күн бұрын
Can someone explain the purpose of installing the 20amp GFCI outlet as well?
@DadooshRP
Жыл бұрын
you could use an LL instead of LB to have more space to pull the wire :)
@matthewbheck
Жыл бұрын
At 3:45… shouldn’t the ground be a minimum of a #8 in accordance with 680.43 E (3) to facilitate proper bonding?
@lukehanlon3179
Жыл бұрын
NM cable is not code compliant because it has a #10 ground. Better to run a raceway that you can pull the #8 equipment ground from the main panel in the house to the terminals / bonding bar on the hot tub I know this because I did the same thing first time in wired a hot tub 🤷♂️
@cprfenom
7 ай бұрын
Wouldn't running a dedicated circuit through an enclosure that is occupied by another circuit be counter intuitive.
@kimberleeellison2882
Жыл бұрын
what a mess on that panel wires are all over the place nothing stapled down , would never pass code.
@donl1410
2 жыл бұрын
I said to myself I would no longer comment on these videos because I use the NEC as a general guide for an electrical installation. With local amendments acknowledged, which was clearly mentioned to me by the author. But this installation looks a little sketchy: Clearance from spa to electrical equipment; bonding; future access to the branch circuit spa wiring through the LB conduit body (will a serviceman be able to remove that LB cover with a screw driver?); stripping the jacket from the wiring of the NM cable. PVC conduit is a means of mechanical protection for NM cable. The individual wires are, in themselves not listed to be installed in a conduit or system. NEC 310.8; 1:01:22 - Code language was added in the 2002 NEC 408.41 prohibiting more than one grounded conductor per terminal. Prior to that it was a UL listing (UL67) enforced by 110.3(B) and 110.14(A). Not saying that you would do this.
@donl1410
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricProAcademy Thanks for that. Looks handy.
@donl1410
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricProAcademy Thanks for the kind reply and clarification on your local permissions. Not meaning to beat a dead horse. But I was also looking at metalic objects requiring bonding within 5 feet or the inside walls of the tub as article 680.26(B)(7) outlines. The camera can distort or not offer an actual account of acctually being on the job. I'm sure you would have made certain that metalic unassociated disconnects and meter base were outside the 5 foot bonding requirement. Keep up the videos!
@wirenut57
Жыл бұрын
There is no way I could run nmb outside. Also conduit has to be 18" or less to avoid having to derate. 40 year CA contractor. You seem like you are doing a good job just watch those details.
@atease3464
Жыл бұрын
Love the positive attitude, the humbleness, and the eagerness to teach.
@chrisr897
6 ай бұрын
I have detached garage with ~125’ underground 1.25” PVC with sheathed 14/2 and 12/2 romex I want to replace with a 60-100a sub. I tried to run a fish and it came back wet so there is water in it. Any way to know if it’s broken or not? Fish and borscope didn’t get far with the romex still in. PS it has an electrical inspection sticker…and the detached building doesn’t have its own ground rod…
@dwightrivera3281
2 жыл бұрын
wow what a amazing video
@darrylelambert2484
11 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm trying to remove the 4 electrical wire going to my hot tub. I'm getting a new hot tube delivered. Is there a technique to remove the wires? I can't budge them. Thanks!
@BallawdeQuincewold
2 жыл бұрын
This is the most thorough electrical content ever. Keep it up, man!
@Tim_Gravy
10 ай бұрын
Could you not go straight up into the lugs behind the breaker vs going up and over and bending it for your 6/3 from house? Or does code require the bend so less chance for them to pull out
@sedona1234566
2 жыл бұрын
what about for the 6' clearance rule? Romex in a wet location? Was the EGC a #10? Never would pass in my area.
@JohnThomas-lq5qp
2 жыл бұрын
Must be in some hick dukes of Hazzard backward location.
@mvernarp6984
Жыл бұрын
permits, codes , inspectors , not so much a waste money and time but they are a waste of money and time. just easy money for someone to make and they did not do anything to earn it. half of them do not even inspect anything, i enjoyed the video very informational
@johndegeorge5587
4 ай бұрын
Do you need to run.a green wire for grounding the tub or can you use the bare copper wire that comes with the 3 conductor cable?
@oldgoldtopgoldtop6039
Жыл бұрын
Notice you used 6/3 rather than 8/3 from a 40 amp breaker to your 50A shut off. Could you have used the 8/3 instead?
@user-qd7dk3su2t
Жыл бұрын
Believe that was because the NMB used is chosen from the 60 degree table (334.80). I would have used #8 CU THWN and run it all the way from basement panel to tub in PVC. Much easier to deal with and bend in the GFCI disconnect box too.
@abrohs57
Жыл бұрын
Why couldn't you land the wires straight into the bottom of the lugs on the hot tub disconnect instead of bending them around to the top?
@JoeCartright
2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Would this need to be equipotentially bonded given the distance to the house and fences? If so, where would you connect the bonding wire?
@illestofdemall13
2 жыл бұрын
Like someone else said, should've used an LL so the cover was facing forward instead of to the left where it can't be opened or used properly.
@fordmustang5856
Жыл бұрын
What's the reason for a 110v receptacle, when the hot tub is 220v?
@AllthingsJimThorpePA
9 ай бұрын
Love the detailed explanations. Best electrician on youtube.
@movvado2000
Жыл бұрын
You used #6 awg wire for the exterior Could I get away with #8awn on 40 amps 2 pumps. 20 feet in Minnesota?
@Critical_Path
2 жыл бұрын
wow, this is some superb content. Thanks for sharing! Subscribed
@jwoodbutchernailit967
2 жыл бұрын
Joe ever tried a dry line to cut PVC....... Turkey baster haha brother the baby snot sucker thingys work assume also it's what I use if you have a chance try one out . Are you Jefferson ? Or Joe ? Sorry if I have used the wrong name . Caleb received a real professional installation wonder if he tipped you if not he should have. Be safe Sincerely: Johnny G. R.
@bman6502
2 жыл бұрын
Your ongoing commentary during your work is fantastic for us DIY guys.. I love the little insights you give, especially the one about connecting two whites in the panel to same slot.. making sure the other breaker is off…
@adamdavis2788
Жыл бұрын
As a sparky in the uk it’s interesting to see the difference in American to uk electrics One thing just to add as we have to drill through brick/concrete a lot if you can’t get one of the larger hammer drills you can use smaller drill bits and work your way up ie 10mm,20mm,25mm,30mm the larger the drill bit the smaller the increments. Also even with the larger drills I would recommend doing a smaller pre drill before so your 100% in the right place and it also goes a lot quicker
@georgemartinez8093
2 жыл бұрын
I just moved to a new home and brought my spa with me. The spa requires a 50 amp gfci at the disconnect box. I have a detached shed/shop with a subpanel that is fed by a 60 amp from the main. There are currently 3 15 amp breakers that runs a 5000 btu window unit a few lights and some 110 outlets. Would it be to much to Install the 50 amp breakers feed the gfci disconnect for the spa?
@AlphaGMale
Жыл бұрын
Amazing Video! Just what I needed. Who makes the GFCI weatherproof cover that you are using for the service outlet? Didn't see it in the recommended products. SUBSCRIBED!
@psyfertech
2 жыл бұрын
i love that part 18" deep.... NOT CABLE INSTALLER DEPTH... lmaooo so damn true
@darienredsox1878
Жыл бұрын
So true. Most cable installers in my neck of the woods are hacks. Most of them are driving minivans with temporary plates from out of state, sometimes even expired. When a sidewalk on a street near me was replaced, they chopped a good number of peoples cable because it was not deep enough. One time I even had to report a cable tech to the power company because I saw him looking inside there equipment on the street to try to get a cable to a house.
@jeffbozyra3035
Жыл бұрын
If 12/2 Romex isn’t rated for wet locations and if it’s in conduit that is exterior considered as a wet location wouldn’t that compromise the 12/2 romex paper and everything?
@kevindugan8247
Жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but I don't think you can use a disconnect as raceway and pass through to feed your GFCI.
@georgewright2010
5 ай бұрын
Agreed, I can see a home owner thinking the disconnect turns off the GFI.
@itstimetounlearn
27 күн бұрын
@@georgewright2010 I can see a homeowner thinking two holes in his house for two wires is one too many when both wires can fit thru one hole.
@bobbyboywonder12
4 ай бұрын
Hi
@CarlosCamacho-mi8yw
2 жыл бұрын
Why you used a 15A GFCI in a 20A circuit?
@jimmichaels5058
Жыл бұрын
at 1:01:30 If you have a neutral terminal rated for 2 neutral conductors under 1 terminal... There is no such thing, The panel UL listing does not allow it and it has been Explicitly banned in the NEC since 2002. However, Grounding wires can be doubled and sometimes tripled when they go into a Neutral Bar and this can lead to confusion. Neutrals CANNOT be doubled!
@ShawnBotAdventures
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! I feel like I know everything I need to do this for my own hot tub tomorrow. Appreciate the thorough explanations.
@mos8541
2 жыл бұрын
do you think putting a small piece or patch of 10mil tape over those lugs as a backup safety for the possible unexpected movement of the bare ground? just a thought. i saw during the second ground term. as you were cutting get DAMN CLOSE to the lug for just a moment in time
@that1electrician
Жыл бұрын
Why not just move the ground bar further up dude. Or get a box that has them up top so it's not blocking your KO. That's lame.
@JohnThomas-lq5qp
2 жыл бұрын
Did I miss it. Did he seal the wires where they entered building as required by NEC to prevent condensation building up.
@LennyHowell
2 жыл бұрын
was this even inspected?
@chaseohara4781
Жыл бұрын
You mentioned terminal covers for the main lugs as a common feature in newer panels, and I always found it fascinating that US panels are built like that because Canadian panels actually require a physically separate section for the main lugs so that there's no ability to accidentally touch the always energized incoming cables. Makes it so much safer to work in the panel, especially when you're able to turn off the main breaker.
@JohnThomas-lq5qp
Жыл бұрын
Absolute brilliant that Canada required separate section for main circuit breaker. Can not understand how clown Candian produced DIY shows constantly show dangerous practice of installing panels side ways. If somebody turns any of the top row circuit breakers off handles are in dangerous up while off position. If something was to hit that breaker circuit would be energized. Yes you are supposed to install LOTO on circuit that you are working on but homeowners never do. At the very least these clown shows must show a disclaimer stating that practice is not legal in the USA.
@chaseohara4781
Жыл бұрын
@@JohnThomas-lq5qp I'm not sure when the code changed in Canada, but it used to be perfectly legal to install a panel sideways here. My parents had their house rewired in the early 80s, and their breaker panel was installed that way and passed inspection. It's absolutely a terrible practice and definitely illegal now, but I think it's common to see because it used to be a very normal thing to do.
@89Ayten
2 жыл бұрын
If it's convenient consider drilling as many holes as you can in the mortar, versus brick. Brick can't be repaired, only replaced. The mortar is designed to expand and contract and it's less dusty.
@ToddPagel-t6b
Жыл бұрын
That was an AMAZING tutorial! Best educational one I have ever seen for us non-electricians. If you were in my area, I would hire you in a heartbeat! Thanks.
@D...........33
2 жыл бұрын
In the UK we would use SWA cable 👍. better job and will not get water in it.👍👍👍
@brianw612
2 жыл бұрын
I understand a GFCI breaker is required for the tub. Is it necessary or required to have two breakers, inside and outside? Could a GFCI be used in the main panel and a simple disconnect be outside?
@ScotFjeldsted-zx8qs
Жыл бұрын
Great video and detail. On question about the ground wiring. If the spa wire is # 6 don't you need a #8 ground. You said in the video the ground was a #10. Also, doesn't the ground wire need to be insulated for a spa? Looked like it was only insulated ground wire between the disconnect and the spa, the rest was bare.
@larrybrellenthin4247
11 ай бұрын
I agree with insulated all the way to main panel. Also #8 would have been ok for the whole run.
@FISHINGisApassionFL
6 ай бұрын
Number 10 wire for ground is plenty. You can use a #6 ground for a 200amp service. Ground wire going to panel does not have to be insulated. Only problem I see with this installation was not using an LL for the #12 romex. And installing a 15 amp gfci on a 20 amp breaker
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
Take your time, probe the hole, and get a feel, boys!
@Poor.and.Bruised.of.Spirit
7 ай бұрын
Location of that Spa is in violation of electrical code. That spa can not be that close to the meterbase, main dissconnect, spa maintenance disconnect or general use receptacle. Also, 12/2 NM cable is for dry use locations. Not for pulling through conduit. Also your conduit fill, 3/4" PVC with three #6, #10 ground and one 12/2 MN cable. Use a 'LL' not a 'LB' next to that disconnect. You screwed the next service tech who has to come work on that. Also, it has been code since 2002 not to double tap neutrals. So dont tell people that they can do that. 408.21 Grounded Conductor Terminations. Each grounded conductor shall terminate within the panelboard in an individual terminal that is not also used for another conductor. 680.13 Maintenance Disconnecting Means One or more means to simultaneously disconnect all ungrounded conductors shall be provided for all utilization equipment other than lighting. Each means shall be readily accessible and within sight from its equipment and shall be located not less than 1.5 m (5 ft) horizontally from the inside walls of a pool, spa, fountain, or hot tub unless separated from the open water by a permanently installed barrier that provides a 1.5 m (5 ft) reach path or greater. This horizontal distance shall be measured from the water's edge along the shortest path required to reach the disconnect.
@georgenewman1798
Жыл бұрын
Joel, Love your videos, many young apprentice look up to you. With that said we all learn from each other and as a professional It is unacceptable knowingly do something that isn’t correct just because you don’t have the correct materials I do have a couple of concerns I was disappointed that you did not use a LL The next guy that comes along will surly try to trash your Reputation. Romex not permitted in wet location as you stated all exterior conduits are considered wet locations. You May want to consider using UF cable in this application Spa installation The Big violation that stands out is. yes a disconnect is required but the type that you use is a key factor: In a residential application the code does allow a exception for single family dwellings for the use of Romex when used as a Branch circuit requiring a non fused or pull out disconnect requiring Gfci protection in the main panel. With the Gfci in the outside disconnect the wiring method between the main panel and the o.s disconnect is now no longer a branch circuit by definition. A is now considered a feeder and all feeder for pool pool equipment panel boards are required to have a insulated E.G conductor
@ElectricProAcademy
Жыл бұрын
Wow so interesting. Could you reference a couple codes for my review? Always learning!
@FrancisWong
2 жыл бұрын
Loving the content, your attention to detail and ethos! Might have to schedule a consult on my electrical plans here in Oakland, CA - 200A service upgrade, adding second meter and subpanel for ADU - wish Jefferson Electric were in the Bay Area!
@kidR0BOT
2 жыл бұрын
Line side wire was a little short lol and that disconnect is an awful design. Been there done that and having a little extra length for your line would’ve been helpful. I’m sure you’re well aware of it lol
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
Shoulda gone in on the bottom on those disconnect line lugs.
@rogerwhiting9310
Жыл бұрын
If it's fused at 40 amps...why not use #8 copper?
@dungeonviper2606
Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the 40amp breaker at the main panel, and a 50amp breaker in the sub panel. Don't they have to be the same or the sub panel be smaller than the main feed?
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter which is smaller as long as one of them is correctly sized for the load and operating characteristics (e.g. wire gauge) .
@dungeonviper2606
Жыл бұрын
@@jovetj But wouldn't installing a 50amp breaker in the sub panel be pointless since the 40amp breaker in the main panel would trip before the load can draw 50amps? I will watch the video again; maybe I missed something.
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
@@dungeonviper2606 It's not pointless because it came with the disconnect enclosure. The 50A breaker's job is not to serve as overload protection for the circuit. It's merely to be there to be shut off or reset. Like fuses, basic circuit breakers protect against two types of dysfunction: overload, and short circuit. The 40A breaker on the main panel protects against those since it's the lowest rated.
@dungeonviper2606
Жыл бұрын
@@jovetj So it's just an On/Off switch... Sorry for all the questions, I am just really trying to understand and that one had me confused...
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
@@dungeonviper2606 Yup. It's a disconnect (on/off switch, or pull block) that the Code says is required. It just happens to be a circuit breaker. But, it's also a GFCI, which is also required (somewhere). No need to apologize, we're all learners here and I'm no expert either!
@b-rad7381
4 ай бұрын
Great vid! Lots of good, embedded pro tips. However, I would have used THWN-2 for the entire installation based on 300-9. Really enjoy your channel and content.
@randymay8396
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Curious question ? Does your local code allow you to use a disconnect as a cable raceway? 12/2 through the Hot tub disconnect?
@that1electrician
Жыл бұрын
I don't think there's any problem with that...running 240 together with 120 is fine and won't hurt anything. Any difference of more than 300V is when you have to separate I believe. Class 1, 2 and 3 circuits. Running 120 or 240 with 24VDC? No way Jose.
@jesseestrada4290
2 жыл бұрын
Nice work man, it took me 2 days to watch the whole thing though, I love to watch electrical installations because that's what I do, if you don't mind me asking how much did you charge for this work? I'm guessing like $3k ?
@rodelmark689
2 жыл бұрын
What???? Its $3k???? Here in Philippines I installed alot of that..with same specifications as followed to our electrical code but i only charged 5k pesos equal only about 100$ 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
@jesseestrada4290
2 жыл бұрын
@@rodelmark689 Holy crap that's to low ! I charge $100 US dollars just to show up to the job site... lol Also u're economy is stable not like in the USA, you can do much there with $100, here in USA $100 is nothing, take care.!
@rodelmark689
2 жыл бұрын
@@jesseestrada4290 nope daily rate here are 700-800pesos.. its just this people i installed with are my very old costumer way back when im just a beginner some of them been calling me since i was 20 and now im 35.. its just i love my job/costumers/ they're like a family to me hehe
@jesseestrada4290
2 жыл бұрын
@@rodelmark689 I charge my friends and family the same, maybe a little discount like $10 bucks off that's it, business is business bro, everything is so expensive, travel time for gas and if need to go to the supply store I'll charge extra...lol
@rodelmark689
2 жыл бұрын
@@jesseestrada4290 may its the same, only the currency are not same.. biggest project i got so far are the wye delta and Forward reverse switches with plc control.. that what i charge alot around $10k labor only.. aside from that are common house repair/renovation/construction that usually i charge at low rate bcuz of our tariffs stated in our local service provider.. but mostly high pay are 500amp to ~amp categorized as large load or industrial works😁👌
@tony2hotty
2 жыл бұрын
Quick Question - Should a hot tub be filled before or after inspection?
@tony2hotty
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricProAcademy thank you for the quick reply. Much appreciated!
@rochellehanson9001
2 ай бұрын
Just curious why the amp of the spa panel is 50 but the Double-Pole Circuit Breaker is 40. Do these not need to match?
@johnyunits7134
Жыл бұрын
where is your osha shield on an open live panel and you should have bought an LR for your 3/4 in pvc......just saying....good job
@MarcGyverIt
6 ай бұрын
If you don't know what all of that is, you have no business touching it. Labels are bad lol
@bobbyboywonder12
4 ай бұрын
Is this not a violation of 680.10 regarding the trenching of wiring horizontally of 5’?
@gabrielpadilla3470
7 ай бұрын
Is the dedicated 20amp receptacle code required with the hot tub epectrical installation? Or is that just an extra convenience?
@mikem1283
2 жыл бұрын
Why a 40a breaker for a 50a disconnect🤔?
@craigslaunwhite579
2 жыл бұрын
I saw that as well. This ensures the breaker inside will trip when there is a overloaded or overcurrent circuit. A gfci is much more sensitive so a 50 amp is preferred. Although it would be code compliant with A 40 amp gfci.
@mikem1283
2 жыл бұрын
@@craigslaunwhite579 can't do that here in canada...
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
The smallest-rated circuit breaker is the over-current device. The 50 amp disconnect is just a glorified GFCI.
@mikem1283
Жыл бұрын
@@jovetj Not code
@MarcGyverIt
6 ай бұрын
hundreds of feet of extension cord? 50' is still half of just 100' lol
@Rizz264
5 ай бұрын
Why was the breaker at the panel a 40 amp while the breaker at the disconnect was a gfci 50 amp
@thg705
18 күн бұрын
Great walk-thru and install. The only hitch I see is the use of the wrong connector body (junction box) for the hot tub circuit. That box is not accessible; should have used an LL. Wouldn't pass inspection in our jurisdiction.
@ElectricProAcademy
16 күн бұрын
Good eye. You're absolutely right.
@breyerpest
7 ай бұрын
Can I use 6/3 UF-B from the spa panel to a 240v 48amp spa?
@b-rad7381
4 ай бұрын
Since there is a different circuit running through the hot tub disconnect to feed the 120V receptacle, then according to 321.8(A)(4) a warning label should be affixed to the disconnect: "Warning Label: A warning label complying with Section 110.21(B) must be applied to the enclosure to identify the closest disconnecting means for any feed-through conductors." Cheers!
@Muscle5OH
7 ай бұрын
Nice guy, but this vid could've been a whole lot shorter.
@electricianslife1984
Жыл бұрын
I know of someone who broke their arm with one of those hammer drills 🔨
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