Hopium tank completely full we're ready to 12-0 the rest of the tournament
@teraformerr
4 ай бұрын
Good luck emperors
@G2LoL
4 ай бұрын
@@teraformerr ❤
@Pankaj13Das
4 ай бұрын
LDR
@teraformerr
4 ай бұрын
YEEEES I KNEW YOU COULD DO IT
@turnermarius4471
4 ай бұрын
@@teraformerr G2 believers , G2 army
@szabel.
4 ай бұрын
thank god for Chronicler for actually being the one of the only analysts on the desk offering legit analysis in some of these series, the amount of meme quotes and one-liners half of these clowns go for EVERY game
@ParallelZuVega
4 ай бұрын
"I‘M NOT LOCKED IN HERE WITH YOU - YOU‘RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME"
@saintlotus93
4 ай бұрын
Im just here to listen to Thorin flame Noah for losing to Yeon.
@Jose-cr3zn
4 ай бұрын
Yeon has been really good for awhile now just been slept on by a lot of people and Thorin is right Noah has been exposed. A lot of European ADs get exposed though it's why Hans Sama didn't do well in NA it's the weakest position in the region even worse than top imo.
@PeoplePleaser578
4 ай бұрын
@@Jose-cr3zn Firstly Yeon is trash. Secondly European ADs are generally pretty decent. Hans didnt do well in NA because TL were a dumpster fire org and team.
@jiloujensen2498
4 ай бұрын
ADs in EU are actually good, we just did not send the bests. Hans is top 3 but Ice and Carzzy outperformed him. We may not find again Perkz/Rekkles but Yeon beating Noah does not mean anything.
@radekhruby142
4 ай бұрын
@@Jose-cr3zn He is better than he was, but for international scene he is mega trash
@cenekromanowski3604
4 ай бұрын
Funny how Yeon started to be decent right as Core turned back into a world-class support....@@Jose-cr3zn
@F0rtysxity
4 ай бұрын
NA so deep NRG didn't even make it to MSI. Let's go!
@ftu2021
4 ай бұрын
NA is the most competitive region where any team can win while LCK and LPL are pretty much locked top heavy
@PeoplePleaser578
4 ай бұрын
@@ftu2021 Only because most of the teams are garbage and will run it randomly.
@Vipsy.
4 ай бұрын
Monte talking about Bel'Veth is 100% spot on. Everyone tunneling on Hans' item choices while they had a champion in the jungle literally more useless than a cannon minion in these teamfights.
@Pyrrha_Nikos
4 ай бұрын
The champ got turbo fucked in the lvl 1, and BelVeth is a minion from behind. That's why a Xin Zhao or Viego would have been better picks there, even if they want to go for the lvl 1 invade. The champs are useful even if that lvl 1 goes poorly
@PeoplePleaser578
4 ай бұрын
Belveth got turbofucked at level 1 and then cant do anything. Hans not building LDR whilst being the main frontline killer on his team and being gifted a 4 kill lead from the start of the game is omega troll... like literally if he had built LDR, the entire game changes because he could actually deal with Ksante.
@casualrider983
4 ай бұрын
they legit sacked belveth for bot lane. Bel dies at grubs and its over. Jinx WAS the one to carry that game. Nobody kills ksante but him. Cope
@asay636
4 ай бұрын
Cannon minion catching strays
@Drdakr12
4 ай бұрын
Faker was 2nd best mid in lck during spring split, so it would be hard to argue he wasnt top 5 during spring split. He is having bad tournament but that doesnt remove his spring split but if you ask thorin he is just bad because he isnt as good as the number 1 and 2 mid laners in the world he quite possible could have been 3rd this spring. Thorin's blind hate just too much.
@GamesCourier
4 ай бұрын
Because Thorin measures him to the Faker Goat. Faker isn't that player anymore, he's still freaking good and one of the best in the world, just not the undisputed best anymore
@beamer_boi
4 ай бұрын
i mean he was better than zeka, shoemaker, and bdd… is that really that impressive?
@LiveErrors
4 ай бұрын
Now now, Xiaohou was actually a big Mechanical carry for a good period, his corgi was game winning, his Taliyah was game breaking, his Zoe was really dangerous. That era was just overshadowed by Uzi then being subbed in . Cool was also a big Mechanical carry, even post season 4, he was cracked his last two seasons
@trevorsanso32
4 ай бұрын
"Faker is the Korean APA" 💀💀☠☠
@mysticaldevotion863
4 ай бұрын
this sounds so crazy on so many levels. I almost died laughing
@Drdakr12
4 ай бұрын
its just the thorin faker hate cauze he is on knights D.
@Drdakr12
4 ай бұрын
Thorin agrees with monte's take about faker after calling him korean apa lol
@NoradNoxtus
4 ай бұрын
Based and Real
@johnkiin219
4 ай бұрын
Career wise no, but at the moment yeah he is looking like korean APA.
@trevorsanso32
4 ай бұрын
Yes Lyric was amazing!!!!!!!!!!
@spartanvinc
4 ай бұрын
Ye Caedrel would reference lck and lpl all the time as he was casting lec.
@asay636
4 ай бұрын
APA and Yeon won Worlds you heard it here first
@bv3365
4 ай бұрын
Mate...
@klone57
4 ай бұрын
Yall are killing it with the new sponsors!
@BBxx2000xxBBCAN
4 ай бұрын
Bindu the Mystic here. I'm mysticking right now with the machine elves. D&D rulebook 1.5 --- TRDL; I'm salty right now, do you have an open couch session around 12 to 2 PM Central time? Consult the aboriginal Asians to work that out and get back to me. Thank you in advance and also TY to Kobe for the Allyoop. When is the freeze pipe coming back? Need to give one to Rand so she can smoke the pipe for creativity so I won't get banned from X like Twitter. TY again x 2.
@theburden9920
4 ай бұрын
and finally we got our wish!!!! GENG vs BLG lets goooo Knight vs Chovy Banger
@bravepotatoe7513
4 ай бұрын
Maybe I have the wrong read but T1 banned naut everytime they picked senna tham which was on red side so maybe they were scared of the naut first pick and keria can actually play it but i'm not sure his naut def didn't look that good last time I saw it
@Tristfulosrs
4 ай бұрын
Thorin the kinda guy to talk the most shit ever then act like na fans didn’t have the right to talk shit back after destroying fnc haha
@Zed-ch9fg
4 ай бұрын
this. eu fans always cry about na talking shit after talking mad shit about na. can't take it but love to dish it out. it fits his friend group as well. dom and ls are the exact same as thorin. manchildren who cry whenever someone shittalks them, but made careers off of shittalking other people.
@saephon3988
4 ай бұрын
Objectively and in theory should it be noteworthy that the LCS 1st seed beat the LEC 2nd seed? Of course not. But this is lolesports we're talking about. There is nothing noteworthy about NA, seeding is often handled poorly by Riot, and an LCS team will never win Worlds - whereas an LEC team has had the opportunity to do so twice, and continues to lord that over NA fans' heads. So yes, Team Liquid dumpstering Fnatic in 2024, the year of our Lord, is memorable and worthy of gloating. Have at it NA fans - but try to go easy on EU fans a bit. They're not used to misery and defeat as much as us, so they're a little bit shocked and sensitive right now.
@evilkingster
4 ай бұрын
has had that opportunity one of those times by beating an NA team lol, only to get absolutely fisted both times. EU peak is still slightly better than NA and doesn't matter compare to lck/lpl
@agronnak
4 ай бұрын
@@evilkingsteryeah, "slightly".
@peterwilliams3838
4 ай бұрын
I’m just here to watch Thorin run laps around talking about NA winning something.
@Tristfulosrs
4 ай бұрын
Ya it’s so cringe he’s such a baby
@jonbell71
4 ай бұрын
The real dream for milky way is Lng with scout
@bobbychang2523
4 ай бұрын
Damn, after trashing TL for the entire season, Thorin is now super butt-hurt lol
@Tristfulosrs
4 ай бұрын
Yep thorin hates when na wins
@abemand1233
4 ай бұрын
You guys dont have ears??? He said it was pretty funny TL beat fnc.. I think thoorin hates fnc more then TL
@abemand1233
4 ай бұрын
@advancedapathy1531 this is just sour.. did u watch the games tl vs t1? Wasnt TL lossing winable games?? Ofc he said the 4 korean thing, that was TL whole branding when they made this team
@BlackDeathBlade
4 ай бұрын
As much as Faker's champion pool has been exposed from getting targetted, I think Keria's decline in his overall gameplay might be a more long term problem for T1. It may look like Faker is the weakest player given how much he's been running it down, but he's also arguably their highest impact player. The other players on the roster aren't exactly deep in their champ pools in this meta either. Coming into MSI, I actually think Faker was the best player in T1 this season. My favorite player on the roster, Gumayusi, while consistent hasn't exactly been peaking and his champions are mostly standard pairings with Keria. Zeus seems to just be TF, K'sante, and Zac with varying results. Oner while decent mostly wants to play Xin Zhao. And then there's Keria.... Like Faker, you expect him to have a champion ocean, but the mechanical spark that he had isn't there right now and having a wider champion pool with less impact is worse than having a strong core champion pool but more limited options. Like why ban Keria if his impact is barely there. Let's ban Faker because we know he's the biggest threat if given his good champs.
@Cornincarnate
4 ай бұрын
For some reason everybody refuses to admit that Keria is a massively streaky player. This is hardly the first tournament where he looks WAY worse than expectations.
@ronlanders7354
4 ай бұрын
Keria has been playing well. He saved t1 many times this msi in skirmishes.
@christheophilus7154
4 ай бұрын
@Cornincarnate keria when he isn't playing adcs is beatable delight and mickyx, and On were outplaying him. Also On has gotten better with adc support picks so i don't think it'll be a keria exclusive strength for very long.
@unicorn2921
4 ай бұрын
THORIN YOU ARE TOOOOXXXXXXIIIIIIIICCCCCCC....EU lost, get over it....
@g07h4xf00
4 ай бұрын
Is babbel better than Duolingo?
@BBxx2000xxBBCAN
4 ай бұрын
Bindu again, Roccat Grab Girl says what's up. She's in a good mood now finally accepting the Sega Dolphin genre, cause I won't budge on N64 Golden Threads. Before I go back mysticking collecting pimp points. I'm going to gamble on the games. Do you think Queen Broken Blade's simp and rumored BF from Nat-Cofee will run it down more than Grande's last 3 albums? I checked out her discography but need a Shaman in your couch now, but the machine elves D&D rulebook 2.0 can fuck with it, 'tis is life but like lee sinn it's the rule if you hit the Q. I'm banned right now and bored cause in our world I took the 2nd Q and Truck Guard said it did 200% damage or something?!?! I'm thinking of giving up on the game now cause I'm so triggered. TRDL; I'm very salty and now bitter so scratch last post and I'm open for a couch session till 3:23 PM Central. TY x3. Back to shaman shit grinding on trying to battle Danielle Van der Cun..... Trickster using my magic stick unlike humid. Loki, pun intended: The Church Of Chocy was founded on it.
@bivmike
4 ай бұрын
Lmao Monty burns DL and promotes products this man is a goat lol.
@Zed-ch9fg
4 ай бұрын
also a loser.
@Reizenry
4 ай бұрын
another good content! please create more! we love this, also love the ads talks you guys have, hope to see more of it, you guys rock as always!~
@Reizenry
4 ай бұрын
and it's TRUE, as a caedrel fans we know that he grind it well~!
@Drdakr12
4 ай бұрын
Thorin must not know what GOAT means, A T stands for all time, not right now. Chovy and knight are definately better right now. Although to be honest the fact that both of them are here makes it harder for either of them to take this title because they are so competitive with each other. At his peak faker felt peerless. You can make the argument to have chovy or knight now shadowbox vintage faker but its not reliable because so amny things have changed so much fundamental knowledge has been passed along players things that pro players used to complete and drop draws are now being executed by bronze players. You cannot realistically shadowbox from such different eras in the game so you have to compare them in their eras of dominance. Peak is important in GoAT conversation but duration and longevity is also a factor.
@LyraBelacqua-wd5bd
4 ай бұрын
Love you both and have listened to SI for years, but come on guys, “why isn’t everyone losing on purpose for losers bracket advantage” is such a strawman, who would ever admit in an interview they threw a game, and nobody can play to lose a bo5 without it being obvious - which again would lead to them being banned. Respect you both but that was a dumb take.
@christophercalderon5204
4 ай бұрын
This is the funniest show on the internet.
@Courty765
4 ай бұрын
I mean saying T1 shouldnt be given 3rd in tier lists because they havent delivered is abit sus, they have made the past 2 worlds finals and were 3rd at MSI in 2023 and 2nd at MSI 2022 The one you should be arguing about is GenG who were ranked 1st on most tier list going into all the international events and haven't made a single finals, 4th at MSI 2023, 3-4 at worlds 2022, and 5-8 at Worlds 2024, maybe instead of saying T1 don't deserve the 3rd rank they should be asking why the first seed from LCK gets a number 1 or two spot.
@BlackDeathBlade
4 ай бұрын
I think the funny fact about T1's resume is that 2023 statistically was the 2nd best team of the year behind JDG. Gen G should be questioned more for sure as #1 LCK seed 2 years in a row was considered frontrunners both times but the international factor gets handwaved every single time. Even LCK watchers don't trust Gen G (more like Chovy teams really), because of the demons of the past.
@PeoplePleaser578
4 ай бұрын
So T1 should just be no.1 in tier lists at every international tournament because of history... not because of how they are actually playing right now.
@Courty765
4 ай бұрын
@@PeoplePleaser578 have zero clue how you came to this conclusion. all i was doing was highlight the fact that T1 has delivered on the ranking of 3rd at the previous international events and GenG haven't. thorin comment was we should look at T1 3rd ranking when his comment should be why GenG has always been 1st or 2nd and have never delivered. T1 were pretty constantly ranked 3rd coming into the current MSI, if they beat TL they will at worse be 4th or could get 3rd. but i dont think they have a chance at 1st or 2nd
@Lip836
4 ай бұрын
G2 losses the final VS BLG :D
@999dawnfm
4 ай бұрын
doublelift is a clown but i think he just loves to double down on his trolling just cause of everyone getting triggered but it doesn’t even come off as trolling and just idiot behavior
@FireEatingNinja
4 ай бұрын
The best SK Telecom commercial would be T1 getting DDOS'd mid-scrim, so Faker pulls out his "TMBrand Telecom Relevant Phone" and turns on his hotspot, the boys all connect, they win the game. Thumbs up at screen.
@alexanderanderson6584
4 ай бұрын
Didn’t Faker say in a press conference or interview after the BLG match that he’s still dealing with his wrist injury? I don’t think anyone could play A Sol while dealing with that
@ShoorfLonelyLokly
4 ай бұрын
What? A Sol is dirt cheap mechanically.
@milkman2266
4 ай бұрын
Really sad that doublelift has become a total lolcow now
@ShoorfLonelyLokly
4 ай бұрын
Always was, people grew up.
@Zed-ch9fg
4 ай бұрын
I mean that's what thorin is as well.
@nikitamarynich1794
4 ай бұрын
Thorin gigachad
@bigwig8657
4 ай бұрын
NA vs EU is so funny because it's historically a tier 2 region vs a tier 2.5 region. At least in Dota NA vs EU both regions have won TIs and the beef is like 30% of leagues. It reminds me of the meme with the 3rd place guy popping champagne.
@alexandernaydenov7539
4 ай бұрын
in dota eu dominates everyone cause in dota you need more brain room to decide what to do and improve also has more macro strategies than league ever has
@casualrider983
4 ай бұрын
thorin going on a 20-minute rant about NA to start off the episode is precisely why we Americans shit talk EU. It's fun, hilarious when you get a reaction. These EU guys care so much about this shit like its their life. Most angry fucks I've ever seen online are EU league fans and it's entertaining as shit lmao
@ronlanders7354
4 ай бұрын
@@casualrider983 lol facts 😂
@ShoorfLonelyLokly
4 ай бұрын
@@alexandernaydenov7539Explain to me how is it possible for a macro heavy game to be stalled to 90 minutes and end up in some dumb 5 man stealth backdoor?
@alexandernaydenov7539
4 ай бұрын
@@ShoorfLonelyLokly cause eu > everyone in dota my explain in strategy eu > asians
@williamvargas2981
4 ай бұрын
I think it's time to call Worlds 2023 what it really was for T1: a fluke.
@Snootz86
4 ай бұрын
I mean JDG were the best team in the world in 2023.. wasn't even close.. next is probably blg..and then geng.. the meta was perfect for T1 Also what's crazy is that the other 4 players turn into bots when faker is not on the team.. or pressured
BO3 is not countable Asian Team like best every lane except mid
@yigitkazanoglu1549
4 ай бұрын
zeus kanavi ruler keria ?
@Casualplayer1306
4 ай бұрын
@@yigitkazanoglu1549 lol just said you have double standard. If Asian line up is not "countable" so is that HLE line up when Chovy lose bo1 look like countable for you ?
@yigitkazanoglu1549
4 ай бұрын
@@Casualplayer1306 not hle is drx Doran- pyosik-chovy-deft-keria vs 369-karsa-knight-jackey-yuyanjia
@Casualplayer1306
4 ай бұрын
@@yigitkazanoglu1549 ah yes my bad , but i should remind you deft got health problem right before lck playoff that made him play like shit entire playoff and half of next year
@DominickRoselli
4 ай бұрын
I have arrived to listen to Thorin and Monte whine about how TL vs FNC is not indicative of NA being better than EU. EDIT: Yep, knew it. Not even 5 minutes.
@agronnak
4 ай бұрын
Well, NA isn't better than EU.
@SuperAwesomeRoboSpy
4 ай бұрын
you wasted your time listening to a video with the only purpose of wanting to get mad at it. lol
@OMAR-vk9pi
4 ай бұрын
@@agronnakNA slapped EU in the last bo5 including g2 so yes na is better now
@cyrisbarrett8948
4 ай бұрын
NA wouldn’t consistently beat G2. We are not better overall than EU. I think we definitely have the potential to be better but once the consistency is there we can say that.
@nc_aravindan
4 ай бұрын
Going by that same logic, PCS > NA. Just like how their 1st seed beat NA 2nd seed.
@TheIronMan728
4 ай бұрын
NRG got lucky that day G2 is and will always be better
@ardyn3177
4 ай бұрын
LPL = plumber region thats why t1 got so lucky in 2023 worlds, imagine if they faced caps smh
@axel6382
4 ай бұрын
Caps is by default miles ahead of faker rn because even if caps' mages were only on par with fakers level atm, he still can whip out the melee mids too which faker clearly cant atm.
@evilkingster
4 ай бұрын
lol default miles ahead and yet still couldnt beat faker
@unemployed_clown
4 ай бұрын
@@evilkingster evil kingster :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D that must be the cringiest name ever. edit: I'm not kidding. I dare you to beat him.
@ninjacatgaming7453
4 ай бұрын
@@evilkingster he raped faker in that series
@axel6382
4 ай бұрын
@@evilkingster Even the biggest faker glazers should not be able to look at his performance this tournament and think he is anywhere near the top 5 mids, this is just sad to read 💀
@aser885
4 ай бұрын
T1 should have tried to get Peanut. They need a different jungler to do well consistently. T1 have never won in standard metas, Won LCK in COVID meta, Won Worlds with random ranged support meta switch in worlds playoffs. Keria can't play normal champs and Zeus can't play normal Top champs. But their jungler just isn't stable enough to get this roster consistent good play.
@trevorsanso32
4 ай бұрын
"See guys I told you G2 were top 8 in the world!!!! They....lost to T1 and beat some crappy minor region team.....see!!"
@trevorsanso32
4 ай бұрын
Conversely I wonder if PSG taking BLG to 5 games makes them a top 8 team as well 🙄🙄
@ardyn3177
4 ай бұрын
yea if g2 can't beat a crippled t1? idk if they can beat the lpl
@turnermarius4471
4 ай бұрын
top 4❤
@ardyn3177
4 ай бұрын
@@turnermarius4471 props to them hans sama beats the allegations
@Cornincarnate
4 ай бұрын
Lel
@williamvargas2981
4 ай бұрын
T1 stans will always find a way to cope after every T1 loss. They're now claiming that MSI is irrelevant and LCK is only practice for Worlds 😂😂😂
@Zed-ch9fg
4 ай бұрын
they're not wrong tho. t1 got 2nd place 2022 and won worlds 2023. why the fk are you shittalking them you absolute fkin random?
@panaitandrei6288
4 ай бұрын
Is actually mindblowing that these guys hate on t1 because they didnt win more international titles. Like wtf??? JDG made one final in The Last 2 years( witch they won) GEN G NEVER made a final and t1 made 4 and won 1(Worlds 2023). No words...
@mrbubbles188
4 ай бұрын
did you listen to literally anything they said? T1 have the spending power to literally get the best Koreans in every single role if they wanted. nobody else in lck can do that. when you don't do that and then lose to fucking DRX in world finals then yeah its a fucking disappointment. use your brain
@nikitamarynich1794
4 ай бұрын
The difference is that GenG smacked T1 for 2.5 years and took all domestic titles.
@Ghostweaver
4 ай бұрын
You're comparing a team that's been together for over 2 years now (and has allowed different GenG rosters to take almost every domestic final) to multiple teams that are only together for one year and all peak higher than T1. 2023 JDG, 2024 BLG, 2024 GenG would all be racking up international titles if the orgs could afford to keep those teams together for 2+ years, yet it's somehow GenG that has won 4 consecutive LCK titles directly against T1. T1 has only won 1 international and 1 LCK in the entire time they've been together. Depending on what LPL teams make it to worlds, T1 might not even be top 4 at world's this year (power rankings, not final standings, bad format at world's for rankings) and yet somehow it's hating on them to say they've underperformed expectations, when in reality saying they underperformed means we agree they SHOULD have won a lot more. It's literally saying they could have been the best team of all time but failed to execute, it's not an insult it's just the results
@panaitandrei6288
4 ай бұрын
@@mrbubbles188 and did u ever heard about a roaster of t1 thet costed them 16 milion or whatever the amount of money JDG spent last year? They have 3 rookies from the academy and keria. And u people say faker got lucky in his career and that is the reason why he won almost 20 trophies and ofc he was lucky last year bcs he won worlds. They didnt humiliate lpl 11-1. IT WAS ALL LUCK.
@prestoiidx
4 ай бұрын
So basically, what you're really saying is T1 only was able to win during metas that suited them
@meekee1
4 ай бұрын
here we go another podcast where you shit on faker for hours just because u get triggered by random's people comments on the internet("t1 fans"), and the rest of it is insulting everybody for the tiniest reasons; it's not that funny anymore
@og_ktg
4 ай бұрын
I know TL isn't gonna win shit but what gives me hope for this team is that they've continued to improve, particularly Yeon. He was pretty terrible last year. This year, he stepped up a lot during regular season, then even more in playoffs, and then again so far at MSI. He's shown that he can learn new champions pretty quickly. I think that growth is really promising and I think the team really can do something with Yeon long term. APA I'm not sold on unless he massively improves the champion pool, but hey. If someone in LCS can actually properly play Lucian Nami, that's a huge draft advantage. Whereas I think this trip massively hurts Flyquest and their confidence going forward, I think it will have done the opposite for TL. I think summer will just come down to TL vs C9.
@casualrider983
4 ай бұрын
I’m not a fan of any region or team, I am just a fan of whoever is playing the best League of Legends in the world. And right now, that just happens to be Team Liquid.
@Pankaj13Das
4 ай бұрын
Grab your beers and popcorns, and when Thorin says, "The joke is" - take a sip.
@LetsPlayBojangles
4 ай бұрын
The trash talk for NA is now just that the 6th best NA team is still > EU
@turnermarius4471
4 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@turnermarius4471
4 ай бұрын
@Cornincarnate
4 ай бұрын
@@turnermarius4471why? We aren’t the ones who lost
@nuf4052
4 ай бұрын
@@Cornincarnate well at least our second seed didn't get stomped by a minor region :D
@Cornincarnate
4 ай бұрын
@@nuf4052 True. Lost to NA which is even worse
@slothking1014
4 ай бұрын
Tbh if the level 1 on game 5 between g2 and t1 goes the other way i think it would have been a complete different story
@zohairkhan5755
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think G2 is getting overhyped here. They had a close series against an underperforming Faker and a T1 that seems a bit lost. I’m expecting TOP to 3-1 or 3-0 them. Creme’s even low performance will be enough to neutralize Caps and JL/Meiko are going to do work in the bot lane. Teams that do creative things to win matches have a hard time going very far in long tournaments because cheese and weird angles get figured out pretty quickly. If they do make it work though, big props to their coaching staff and the players for their flexibility.
@imgreen2563
4 ай бұрын
@@zohairkhan5755Your analysis is nonsensical, Creme has a "low performance" yet can "neutralise Caps" something that Faker (playing better than Creme right now) was struggling to do? Jackylove/Meiko will do the work, we need to look at the top side however, BB/Yike/Caps all look extremely strong.
@slothking1014
4 ай бұрын
@zohairkhan5755 tbh I was making the opposite point D: I think if the level one works out, they have a big chance of winning that game. I completely disagree with your reasoning on tes vs. g2, but funnily enough, I also believe that tes will 3-1 g2. My predicton is that the top side will get ahead significantly, but not enough to put jkl and meiko in the dirt and come mid game tes botlane is going to blow up g2 (to my disappointment since I am a eu baby 😢)
@alexandernaydenov7539
4 ай бұрын
@@zohairkhan5755cringe t1 fanboy over here
@lehends5683
4 ай бұрын
Your take is based on something so weak like a building on sand that it does not even warrant a counter argument @@zohairkhan5755
@THEkullerpuller
4 ай бұрын
So is KC just speedrunning becoming the new TSM by signing Canna? They have already thrown one very good coach and one of the most talented players ever under the bus to protect their franchise players, they have no money but are signing way-past-their-prime imports, have cultivated one of the most unhinged fanbases in Europe, have an unlikable owner who's way to involved with the roster despite obviously lacking the knowledge and constantly complain about things being unfair (in their case it's 'racism', with TSM it was import rules). The only part they are missing is the one where TSM was at least pretty successful in their domestic tier 1 league for a few years.
@radekhruby142
4 ай бұрын
. TSM had crazy success before. KC is just the worst org LEC has ever seen
@THEkullerpuller
4 ай бұрын
that's why I said the only part KC is missing is the domestic success TSM has had in the beginning. They just skipped all that and only looked at the last years of TSM 😄
@radekhruby142
4 ай бұрын
@@THEkullerpuller TSM were toxic whole way tho :D
@THEkullerpuller
4 ай бұрын
@@radekhruby142 true 😄 but KC has that part down perfectly 😄 they even have their own Reginald and a franchise player with way too much sway in the organization despite being a mediocre player at best 😄
@radekhruby142
4 ай бұрын
@@THEkullerpuller Bjerg was not mediocre bro
@lnsatiate
4 ай бұрын
I bet on TL to beat FNC, those odds were too juicy
@szabel.
4 ай бұрын
it is so tough to see the narratives be crowbarred in this MSI, even Dagda was doing it a bit with some BLG points, but Drakos and Jatt seem to be the biggest narrative enjoyers
@appleinator8065
4 ай бұрын
I love that esports has answered what happened to the Ship of Theseus
@Militantmind
4 ай бұрын
The way Thorin shits his pants over a couple rando's opinions on league e-sports is getting old.
@Shreddasaurus
4 ай бұрын
Dom and him do this shit all the time. "Everyone says/said this!!" ,literally one dude did.
@Runningitsendingit
4 ай бұрын
And we all still watch it lol.
@Protomango
4 ай бұрын
@@Shreddasaurus The problem is this "one dude" that said it, instantly has 10,000 people who will parrot the idea, ironic or otherwise
@Zed-ch9fg
4 ай бұрын
@@Protomango any proof or did that come out of your ass?
@humanoid8344
4 ай бұрын
disagree I love it
@Monotheist137
4 ай бұрын
Once Gen g locked Ashe I was worried Lehends dont play Ashe in lck he tried once, but did not work out, but man his Ashe against TES was clean. Gen g vs BLG is like Khabib vs Conor hype at this point.
@trevorsanso32
4 ай бұрын
I don't even like T1 but holy hell this T1 hate is ridiculous
@Zed-ch9fg
4 ай бұрын
they got triggered by 1 t1 fan so now they hate them with their gut. literal manchild behavior.
@trevorsanso32
4 ай бұрын
gonna be hilarious when g2 gets clapped by TES
@turnermarius4471
4 ай бұрын
yes
@Depporas
4 ай бұрын
@Shreddasaurus
4 ай бұрын
TES has always been shit, they looked awful in playoffs. Now they got clapped by G2 😂
@Zed-ch9fg
4 ай бұрын
@@Depporas
@Depporas
4 ай бұрын
@@Zed-ch9fg Can't read anything about T1 in this thread u virgin
@harukoiiwajima
4 ай бұрын
keep glazing g2 lmao, can't wait top esports wrecked them , g2 is a team that gets lucky once every 5 years and monte/thorin loves gawk gawk and glaze g2.
@jonaskordik9418
4 ай бұрын
Yea. Personally I despise and hate G2. I also hate how EU casters especially Medic and Vedius always go mega overboard when EU teams are playing and they do something good In the game, but when the other team does something good they don't hype it up as much or at all
@turnermarius4471
4 ай бұрын
hahaha
@hdkonvick6299
4 ай бұрын
TES so trash they can only beat NA 1st seed
@ShoorfLonelyLokly
4 ай бұрын
You okay there?
@turnermarius4471
4 ай бұрын
@@hdkonvick6299 Cope more, G2 didn't let them breath remember what DK did to g2 2021 they learn from the best. Cry me an entire ocean.
@bexclue3007
4 ай бұрын
Chovy vs Knight is tge most forced (Knight)fan driven rivalry/comparison ever. It's not a thing. Last season, Ruler - who arguably had the strongest ADC season ever - was the superstar of JDG. This season Bin is the superstar of BLG and Elk+On - who were the best botlane in the world in spring - were the consistent carries. I had a good chuckle when the broadcast switched from the featured matchup being "Chovy vs Knight" to being "Chovy vs Bin" in the grand finals. I think that says enough about Knight.
@cottoneyedpho6478
4 ай бұрын
This episode aged like milk. Preface this with I am a fan of the show and not flaming. But every single point you made against T1 they seemingly disproved in the G2 lower bracket game. It's like khoma was listening and rangled the kids to play standard and "keria you are playing naut, get over it".
@JustinSainer
4 ай бұрын
I used to watch this show every week. It just has become so tiresome listening to the flaming of NA or T1 or how stupid the viewers are. Its hard to listen to, cant finish.
@ShoorfLonelyLokly
4 ай бұрын
Take a break for a few months or a year, their content almost didn't change, youre just fed up.
@Zed-ch9fg
4 ай бұрын
@@ShoorfLonelyLokly that's the problem. they're still yapping about the same shit and beating the same dead horse. old dogs can't learn new tricks. that's why their twitter following and this show's viewership has stagnated for the past 5 years.
@Ryan-si1yj
4 ай бұрын
AZIR CORKI NIGHTMARE WORLD HAHAHAHAHAAH
@1372AT
4 ай бұрын
Hey im a t1 fans and agree with most of your takes, but making almost every final that this roster has played in, I dont know if thats ever happened in league has to account for something, LCK 1st, msi 2nd, lck 2nd, worlds 2nd, lck 2nd msi 3rd lck 2nd worlds 1st and now lck 2nd. Like People call t1 a meta team but this amount of consistency is insane and the clutch factor was missing.
@Drdakr12
4 ай бұрын
Its their definition of winning everything which they only hold T1 to those standards, but overall if you take the aggregate placement through multiple tournaments and seasonal splits they consistently place higher than any other team. Yes the meta has to be hit them right to be the best but that is the case for any team that wins. If you take the top LPL and top LCK teams over the past 3 years. Yes they have had different rosters but looking at the top teams here are the results from the last 3 years going from ( spring 2024, worlds 2023, summer 2023, msi 2023, spring 2023, worlds 2022, summer 2022, msi 2022, spring 2022, worlds 2021 ( BLG: 1st, 3rd-4th, 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, DNQ, 9th-10th, DNQ, 7th-8th; DNQ; JDG: 3rd, 3rd-4th, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd-4th, 1st, 4th, DNQ, DNQ; EDG: 16th, 5th-6th, 3rd, DNQ, 3rd, 5th-8th, 3rd, DNQ, 7th-8th, 1st; LNG: 7th-8th, 5th-8th, 2nd, DNQ, 5th-6th, DNQ, 4th, DNQ, 5th-6th, 12th-13th; RNG: 14th, DNQ, 9th-10th, DNQ, 7th-8th, 5th-8th, 5th-6th, 1st, 1st, 5th-8th; GEN G: 1st, 5th-8th, 1st, 4th, 1st, 3rd-4th, 1st, DNQ, 2nd, 3rd-4th; T1: 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 1st, 3rd-4th; DK: 4th, 9th-11th, 5th, DNQ, 5th, 5th-8th, 4th, DNQ, 3rd, 2nd. ) JDG and GEN G have more 1st but also have lower placements at same tournaments compared to T1.
@Drdakr12
4 ай бұрын
T1 isn't hands down the best but they are certainly in the conversation with JDG and GEN G over this time period.
@1372AT
4 ай бұрын
@@Drdakr12 true also the fact that this roster has stayed for together longer makes them have more oppurtunities, but i would not say geng becsause even though thexy won every lck the internationals were horrible, even if u say 4th msi, quarter and semis worlds 23 and 22, i think t1 was more consistent
@TonyLee-fm2fy
4 ай бұрын
I hope you guys are wrong I don’t think we have seen APA and Yeon’s ceilings yet Sure, we have all seen a dozen challenger players bomb out, but APA and Yeon look to be steadily improving I mean hell, they are playing with two world champions and an LCK veteran… surely they would have to learn some great stuff just through osmosis… T1 is probably going to shit stomp TL, but I love to see these two carries improving
@SkyKing41
4 ай бұрын
We EU fans just dubbed TL as LCK 5th/6th seed with GAPA/YAPA since they beat Fnatic and also their is big gap between our LEC 1st seed and 2nd seed not to take anything from fnatic they did good and got 2nd seed afterall but reality is we are just run by a 1 team region or 1 man region for those who dont know.
@frostyaces4103
4 ай бұрын
2:48:30 I'd say only losing one bo5 and getting eliminated is a pretty shit feeling after literally every other team also lost a bo5 and was still in the tourney I like how it's "we gotta have the 2 best teams in the finals" how about making sure the best team wins? Monte constantly says its not an advantage to lose, no one is saying it is (at least, not intelligent people). The problem is you're taking away the advantage of NOT losing- idk if he noticed, the losers bracket team isn't affected by this
@evanfelch7689
4 ай бұрын
Faker just trying to get to lose bracket because it's a buff to play more games going thru lower bracket. Upper bracket gets you less practice. (This is sarcasm.)
@NoMomICatntPause
4 ай бұрын
@50:45 are you not also describing g2 but praising them instead
@anthonypeluso3775
4 ай бұрын
I think it's weird that with lane swaps returning you don't see any of these top lanes aren't helping accelerate their junglers
@JohnTCampbell1986
4 ай бұрын
I agree that "GOAT is all about looking at plays with name plates off and seeing which is best". The problem with that is I dont think Faker wins that. I think nameplates off, Chovy or Knight has to get it. Faker gets it purely on titles and intangibles, but Chovy and Knight have shown individual skill gaps against their peers that I think excede what Faker was doing in season 3. Which I think is even more impressive than what faker was doing in season 3, because as point out, the overall level is the highest it's ever been, and they keep consistantly doing it while Faker hasn't been able to since season 7. And more importantly, has Faker, at any point in time during the most competitive years of LoL, been the best individual player in the world? There's definitely been times when Chovy and Knight haven't, I think for large parts of 2023 Ruler had a very good shout for that title, but Faker hasn't come close. Also regarding "expoerts/people in the scene generally dont have omegahot takes cos other experts would dogpile them" I saw Doublelift literally say that dumpstering Faker in game 1 would be the highlight of MSI winner (probably soon to be 2x MSI winner) and multiple times LPL winner Knight's entire career. Also that FNC are better than top, predominantly from a bot gap.
@PassivesAbseits
4 ай бұрын
To answer the "Has Faker, at any point in time during the most competitive years of LoL, been the best individual player in the world?" Question: Yes he has. That was from Summer Season 5 to Worlds Season 7. Right until the moment, when Rulers Varus Ult hit him... When he reached 3 straight Worlds finals and the gap between Faker and the rest was just... well, let me explain: There was this completly broken Champ in Season 5 named reworked Ryze. Everyone played it and looked good on it... well, except Faker, who didn't care. Then Riot nerfed it into the ground. They literally gave that champ the Yuumi treatment and said "Don't play it!". It had like a 42 % Winrate in Solo Que on that Worlds Patch. And that was exactly the moment, Faker decided to play this champ (and G4, a Wildcard team, picked it against Faker,). He went 5W-0L and picked it in the finals in a Lulu mid meta. No one else touched it. Faker then gets a solo kill in a 1vs2 against the RoxTigers. Think about that for a second: He could pick the arguably worst champion on the patch, that didn't fit into the meta at all and that noone else even looked at in the Worlds Final and he dominated on it. Just look for "Faker Ryze highlights Worlds 2015" and remember, that nobody back then understood, how Faker dealt that much damage on this champ. The other players had 4 weeks to practise the pick, after Faker had shown it early, but no one managed to pick it up. Oh and in 2016, he won MSI, IEM, Worlds and one of 2 LCK Splits. The year after the Ryze gap was even more succesfull. Then he dragged 4 corpses to the Worlds Final on Galio in 2017. And then he got hit by the Varus ult and never recovered...
@belesir8847
4 ай бұрын
It's pretty arguable that Faker was the best player in the world during 2023 Worlds, or 2022 LCK Spring where he had an even better split than Chovy.
@boredindividual
4 ай бұрын
Love it when Thorin is says out of pocket shit
@SmoochChess
4 ай бұрын
YAPA THE EU MIDLANERS DADDY
@alexandernaydenov7539
4 ай бұрын
cope harder
@casualrider983
4 ай бұрын
YAPTAIN AMERICA o7
@LiveErrors
4 ай бұрын
Yeon > Yapa
@newrudo
4 ай бұрын
Chovy vs.Knight giving some Jiren vs. Goku energy.
@Jose-cr3zn
4 ай бұрын
TL vs G2 will happen at MSI just watch
@NinjaScorpio
4 ай бұрын
5:24 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 W
@reysolo3672
4 ай бұрын
❤❤❤ 1:41:58
@Andrew-re8by
4 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ Thorin is insufferable
@falconforcex
4 ай бұрын
Lol you still engage
@Andrew-re8by
4 ай бұрын
@@falconforcex tried to listen, couldn’t make it past 5 minutes lol
@vrollroll
4 ай бұрын
Then leave bro. We dont wanna see your lame ass letting the world know how much you hate Thorin 🤡🤡
@nc_aravindan
4 ай бұрын
No one asked you to click the video
@Andrew-re8by
4 ай бұрын
@@nc_aravindan yes usually you have to click the video in order for the video to play
@giannidavies3594
4 ай бұрын
Right now you can say Caps is 2nd / 3rd best mid at the tournament. If he performs vs creme tomorrow it will go a long way
@Leeacademy2024
4 ай бұрын
1. Chovy 2. Knight>=caps 3. Creme 4. APA 5. Faker. Sad but true
@theburden9920
4 ай бұрын
@@Leeacademy2024 what sad about the list?
@simone-fz9hl
4 ай бұрын
@@Leeacademy2024 thorin fans are the most delusional people you cna find
@PeoplePleaser578
4 ай бұрын
@@Leeacademy2024 1. Chovy. 2. Knight 3. Caps = Faker (Both have had some good and some bad) 4. Creme 5. YAPA
@Leeacademy2024
4 ай бұрын
@simone-fz9hl faker at 5 is a bit dramatic but his inability to play Tristana Aurelion sol and corki literally put him bottom of the barrel for this meta
@CrushedByBasilLeaf
4 ай бұрын
Love seeing Thorin mald trying to say that NA isn't as good as EU. In the past 3 years only 4 western teams have made it to quarters, C9 (2021) Mad (2021) Rouge (2022) NRG (2023). Both regions suck EU fans need to get over it
@mihya5954
4 ай бұрын
Historically EU has been superior to NA in any way possible. MSI title, 2 worlds Finals, better head to head. Yes, both regions are trash compared to the asians, but there still isnt any valid Point to say that NA isnt even more trash
@CrushedByBasilLeaf
4 ай бұрын
@mihya5954 I didn't say historically. I said right for 3 years in a row both regions were roughly the same.
@ShoorfLonelyLokly
4 ай бұрын
If EU is a one team region why does this TL win suddenly count. It doesn't beause of the Narrative that NA fans are now trying to rewrite to look better. Unless TL beat T1 and G2.
@8dolfonrunescape
4 ай бұрын
TES would 3-0 speedrun G2.
@GamesCourier
4 ай бұрын
The good thing is: we'll find it out
@jacob2808
4 ай бұрын
cope
@mkamihate6725
4 ай бұрын
Either way should be a banger
@victorrusu1913
4 ай бұрын
@@jacob2808 what cope? g2 are underdogs...
@turnermarius4471
4 ай бұрын
Hmm i will remind u tomorrow. Little sunshine./
@dwil0311
4 ай бұрын
2:45:00 Outside of Knight and Chovy, what non-Western Mid laner would anyone be threatened by. I'm sorry, but outside of Knight and Chovy, all the top midlaners are Westerners. And even Caps is in the same conversation as Knight and Chovy. Caps, Jensen, APA, and Humanoid would all be above Faker and Creme.
@MrBahki
4 ай бұрын
CTE?
@dwil0311
4 ай бұрын
@@MrBahki Thank you for proving my point. You can’t name one Asian midlander outside of those two who people are threatened by.
@samzaiko2851
4 ай бұрын
@@dwil0311 Showmaker and bdd? Apa and Jensen are ass sadly and could never see them above faker or creme. In an hour we will see faker stomp apa
@dwil0311
4 ай бұрын
@@samzaiko2851 Interesting, considering we just watched APA be the better midlaner versus faker.
@Zed-ch9fg
4 ай бұрын
@@dwil0311 when the fk did that happen??? oh when t1 dumpstered tl?
@VexOoo-x7y
4 ай бұрын
2 silver players who don't understand the game
@OMAR-vk9pi
4 ай бұрын
@@MrDespisedIconsomething you’ve never made it to
@StillKeepOnLosing
4 ай бұрын
Thooorin just cant let it go that his Lebron aka Choke'vy keeps joining all these Superteams and cant win Worlds.
@StillKeepOnLosing
4 ай бұрын
Thoorin aka ESPN keeps making excuses for Lebron aka Choke'vy. Sad
@StillKeepOnLosing
4 ай бұрын
@@MrDespisedIcon Haha. Yea. Thoorin sure loves to ride the 2 LeBrons sacks.
Пікірлер: 290