as a newbie researching which shingles are the best for durability. the only thing ive noticed is the utter Inconsistancy in reviews and peoples feedback... whatever the shingle manufacturer, you will find some that give it top ratings and others that say its aweful and badmouth it... this makes determining the truth about their quality Very difficult to say the least!
@deadmeatpuppet666
2 жыл бұрын
I removed 18 year old owens corning 3 tab that lost 90% of the granulars. I am bias as my wife has worked at Lowes for 10 years. GAF shingles are always in stock. Installed Gaf NShadow pewter. Used tyvek 200 underlayment doubled on a 2/12 pitch on an addition I had to completely rebuild and the rest of my roof I used one layer under the GAF. I am not a pro roofer but I swung enough hammers when I was a teenage working on construction sites and still work on things for people all the time , so I have plenty of expertise in the construction trade. I looked into the Owen's shingles and found out Gaf has the best tar rating and holds up so much better than owens in high winds. I know there are better shingles, Atlas has a good line that i wished was in the budget but if you install the Gaf correctly and use the proper underlayment then for the buck, it makes the most sense. Just my two cents. Peace.
@trishkirby
2 жыл бұрын
are you comparing a 3 tab to architectural shingle? Seems like apples to oranges.
@CarlosAoide
Ай бұрын
Right now GAF wind rating is 110 mph while OC is 130mph
@jaga72
3 жыл бұрын
22 years in roofing....GAF is not a premium product, but they do ALOT OF MARKETING when they should focus on making their product better than other better cheaper brands
@sciencelabvideosl7558
2 жыл бұрын
Which product do you like?
@bottanoog9545
Жыл бұрын
as a painting contractor it sounds exactly how many of us feel about Benjamin Moore...quality has really gone down on interior products....switched totally to Sherwin Wiliams
@buckshot5896
9 ай бұрын
I’m an electrician and have never seen painters use anything but sherwinn Williams.
@skip741x3
3 ай бұрын
Brother ,when I was talking with a roofer about GAF, he said Much the same thing... and they market their warranty, this reels in customers when the shingle itself is not all that well made, there are many better ones
@rickibrown9090
2 жыл бұрын
You could have just have gotten a bad batch of GAF.I have gone through an Owen's Corning plant when I was working Minneapolis in about 2000.It was awesome to see how shingles are made.GAF bought out ELK and they only made Architectural Shingles.They built one of the most advanced shingle plants in California. I normally use GAF HDZ Shingles.They are rated for 150 mph winds if installed properly. By the way I have been told if you use 3tab shingles for hips and ridges then you void their warranty. You are supposed to use Timbertex hip and ridge shingles.Sure they cost more but they are quicker to install and look better.They make your roofs stand out against the competition. Just figure the increase in cost and charge a little bit more.A good friend who has been roofing for many years told me to use Timberline shingles for starters,since they are about 39 inches long.If you use 3 foot starter shingles you will save a little bit on materials and labor however eventually the Kee ways will line up and water will leak.I live in New Orleans and have done Roofing,Seamless Gutters, Siding and Patio Covers for 30 years.After Katrina us local contractors did Beaucoup repairs of roofs,Siding you name it.Some Storm Chaser Contractors do quality work but not all of them.Home Owners here are leery of out of town contractors after a storm.They mostly want to do business with reputable local Contractors. I'm not hating on storm chasers cause is still a free country(at least for now) and if you want to come down and sell jobs that's your business. I don't care what the competition is doing,I focus on what I need to do each day,deal with problems that come up and work 7 days a week.I'm a workaholic and love selling jobs,getting jobs installed and going to the Bank.And the last part is my favorite. Good luck guys eat,sleep and roof!
@mikepeterson443
10 ай бұрын
High definition? What's next 4K?
@aaronlanglois1962
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on where you are. Im in Canada the rubber stuff it breaks and cracks during installation we toss more than installing.
@D4x4Bronc
Жыл бұрын
New vs new this is accurate what other yt roofers are saying.
@carlsmith4767
Жыл бұрын
The HD doesn't stand for heavy duty it stands for high definition., meaning in different time of the day your roof will have more shadow lines.
@JR-kk6ce
10 ай бұрын
I'm convinced Home Depot buys factory rejects and sells them at full price. Has anyone taken a recent look at the lumber in Home Depot? It is definayely below average quality.
@CBBC435
Жыл бұрын
Owens Corning may be new to your market but in the US the name goes back to the 1800s.
@johnedwards785
Ай бұрын
Owens Corning began in 1936, while it is GAF that goes back to the 1800's specifically 1886. Factual data look it up!
@skip741x3
3 ай бұрын
A followup to my original comment: I had a chance to compare in hand, some full shingles...looked at malarky, certainteed and for the 1st time ever, GAF... as far as flexibility, the malarky vista blow both of the others away, same with granule retention..certainteed compared to gaf are the thickest of the 3, still reasonably flexible, better granule retention than GAF...the worst by a large margin in terms of quality of construction...by this I mean ,they were thin, shed granules and had a flexibility so poor that if you did try to roll one up, it would crack to bits....certainteed rolled up fairly well, some damage.. malarky vista, you cou roll up and unroll seeing practically no damage at all.. Owens corning, never held one in hand but better than GAF? I wouldnt doubt it
@JUSTCUROIUS
10 ай бұрын
Any roofer that's had to repair a owens corning roof knows how well they hold. Gaf is ok but are poorly made. Asphalt shingles are the cheapest option out there. No asphalt shingle lasts 50yrs in our area period. 20yrs +/-5yrs depending on conditions is what you get. America is one of the only countries that prefer to put the cheapest option on their homes for some reason.
@user-ye6on6cz9y
9 ай бұрын
look up the cost of metal and slate... my slate roof has lasted over 100 years but now needs a replacement, probably would cost me 50k instead of 20k for owens asphalt!
@JUSTCUROIUS
9 ай бұрын
@@user-ye6on6cz9y true. 50k for 100yrs or 20k for 30yrs that's 40k for 60yrs 60k for 90yrs then 10k prorated. Which was the better deal? Qwens corning ain't bad for an asphalt shingle. Higher end iko isn't either. I like their tech better because that reinforcement is on the bottom side instead of the top side.
@therynes
8 ай бұрын
IKO Dynasty all the way!!!
@drewnagy7282
2 жыл бұрын
Guy doesn’t know what he is talking about. You don’t want a stiff shingle on your roof. It will age much faster and lose granular, which OC is know for. Next time don’t use the cheapest products possible. GAF HDZ is the best asphalt 30 year Laminate on the market.
@MrMuchachos75
8 ай бұрын
Your nuts. The gaf shingle has been discontinued several times and a large class action lawsuit to boot. They don’t last. Now they put a test shingle out there, the hdz to see if it sticks. Look up gaf class action lawsuit
@nicholaskoval5647
2 жыл бұрын
You are so wrong when it comes to shingle quality and installation.
@anneharo001
2 жыл бұрын
No
@user-wf7ky3cd6r
4 ай бұрын
Owens Corning is not new😂 they invented the fiberglass matting used in EVERY SINGLE ASPHALT SHINGLE, every brand that is not Owens Corning when it comes to asphalt shingles is just a cheaper generic brand
@steverussell1321
Жыл бұрын
LOL
@baltazargaspar8233
Ай бұрын
Terrible comparison Owen’s Corning destroys Gaf compare Gaf and BP shingles in that level where they belong. OC shingles are the top dog when it comes to oxidized asphalt shingles. The king of all shingles is Malarkey shingles best engineered, long lasting and not oxidized
@ivtec845
3 жыл бұрын
Owens corning shingles have been around Just as long lol o.c is good you want really good shingles get atleast. If you got the n.s not the hdz you got a 30yr gaf shingle not a 50yr
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