There’s a video on this site where someone points out a good few anecdotes of people conquering depression by playing souls likes. An odd concept on a surface level, but with the story of most of them being “the world sucks and there’s not much to do about it, so carve your own niche into this rotten husk and roll with the punches”, combined with the satisfaction of when you do git gud and make a name for yourself, it’s practically hard coded to make you prove that you’re as worthy a person as anyone else. “Sure, the house needs repairs that we don’t have the cash for, but I whooped Malenia through Sisyphean determination, we’ll deal with it”. They said it a bunch in those forums, and it’s a good phrase to keep in mind: don’t you dare go hollow.
@milhaus924
2 ай бұрын
Bloodborne did that for me probably saved my life
@neja2633
2 ай бұрын
Having written a thesis, partly bout that topic, I'd certainly agree on videogames having quite an interesting influence on society and a person itself. Though I suppose there's quite a lot of research to be done, the connection of videogames and people are hard to deny, I liked your summary👍🏼
@caitycat66
2 ай бұрын
I think Writing on Games did a video like that a few years back.
@biasedjonny
2 ай бұрын
I agree 100% dude
@Ahrpigi
2 ай бұрын
I can think of 3: "Dark Souls helped me cope with (self harm)" by Writing On Games "When we all go Hollow" by Constant diversion "Don't you dare go Hollow" by Indie Bytes
@Noizzed
Ай бұрын
Some people complain that in Souls games, they don't understand why they're fighting certain bosses or who they are. They believe bosses should have an introduction. However, lore-wise, you're a nobody facing someone far more important than you and nobody owes you a explanation.
@jbark678
Ай бұрын
In Souls games, ignorance is often a boss in and of itself. Observation, reading, and experimentation damage said boss.
@moosiemoose1337
5 күн бұрын
The real problem is our character's motivations. Why does my character want to become elden lord?
@Noizzed
5 күн бұрын
@@moosiemoose1337 There's many ways one could become Elden Lord, the reason is up to you. You may seek power, or may seek justice, order, freedom, etc. You may become lord of the Frenzied Flame instead, and burn the world. You assume the role of a Tarnished, who seeks to become lord. This is your role, and as such you are expected to play as this.
@TheRealNova99
3 күн бұрын
Can we all take a second to appreciate just what a fantastic point this really is? If you think about the worlds in those games as real, living (dying) worlds, then this makes perfect sense.
@MothFable
Ай бұрын
The best thing about souls games is that while everything is dark and cruel and brutal there are still people you find who rage against this idea, regardless of the outcome. People like solaire who suffer defeat and failure and a loss of all they believe only to continue on and help in a fight that is not their responsibility, and even the ways other players interact matter too. When you see messages and bloodstains next to a cliff you know someone did a spot of trolling. Players will mark hidden walls or warn you of enemies or just say something silly, hell just entering a boss arena and seeing messages and knowing all of those are there because people beat this boss gives you hope, and seeing so many people not only celebrate their victory but rate other peoples celebrations positively gives the impression of a community celebrating together even if they can’t see each other. And finding random summon signs or players who beat a boss but choose to stay behind to help out others stuck on that boss, the chaos invaders can bring whether they harm or just hang out. The most brilliant things of the games aren’t the dark world or interesting stories but the fact that the community is so tight knit. And I think radahn is one of the most interesting examples of this, because while his fall is sad the way he dies is almost hopeful. Radahns close friend invites others to fight radahn in a festival to put him out of his misery, in the process bringing others closer together. He creates joy even in sorrow, and that is what’s so magnificent about Miyazaki’s worlds.
@Mita_Art
Ай бұрын
7:16 "You... Are... Nothing."... Yet... You persevere and overcome.
@dipwad7459
26 күн бұрын
“There remains a foothold out of this mire, now climb” -darkest dungeon 2
@whorcares123
2 ай бұрын
One game you should consider checking out if you enjoy games with worlds that do not care about the player and its characters is Fear and Hunger and its sequel.
@MK-vi2cm
2 ай бұрын
I clicked this video expecting to see Fear and Hunger. Surprised it's not
@burymeinjhenny918
2 ай бұрын
Ur so right 🤝
@Dioramos
Ай бұрын
Darkest Dungeon too then
@MedievalFantasyTV
Ай бұрын
I think F&H is slightly different. The world cares about wrecking you in perverted ways. Much like real life, IMO...
@jimijenkins2548
18 күн бұрын
@@MedievalFantasyTV Reminds me of how, in Lovecraft's stories, Nyarlathotep is the most dangerous god. Not because he's the most powerful, but because he is fascinated with tricking humans, unlike the others who ignore humans.
@RepellentJeff
Ай бұрын
To compound on your section on Fallout: The Vaults didn’t ‘devolve’ into social experiments. The vast majority of them were planned to be just that from the beginning by Vault-Tec and what would later become The Enclave. “The truth is, the game was rigged from the start.”
@WraithReaper09
Ай бұрын
Exactly. They didn't devolve, they were designed.
@teratoma.
28 күн бұрын
fear and hunger and cruelty squad are top tier examples of this
@Despresso-ht6ce
2 ай бұрын
0:30 triggered my ptsd, loved that bug :(
@tiagocosmos
2 ай бұрын
The Miracle in Blasphemous is not a being, it's a force. Think of it another aspect of that reality such as gravity, that came to be bc of the High Wills' machinations. it's not a character, or even necessarily sentient, just an eternal curse that works like a twisted, all-knowing djinn, granting wishes in horrible ways, or cursing people outright.
@InternetHydra
Ай бұрын
17:03 The Forever Winter will probably be up your alley then. It’s getting a lot of attention for embracing such a premise.
@BurningWaterpark
Ай бұрын
17:02 this is kind of the premise for "the forever winter". A game that's coming soon
@ubnubmaster
2 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Not only is the level of polish surprising for a channel this small. But you’re also an incredible writer and have a great understanding of atmosphere. It’s clear a great deal of time went into your selection of music for this and it pays off, keep up the great work
@qwertydavid8070
2 ай бұрын
The "grim spectacle of survival" line at the start of the vid was such a powerful hook, got me instantly invested. He's a very good writer!
@phillipmitchell2254
2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah new gaming-related essay channel, instant sub.
@lilyrainne3233
2 ай бұрын
I love how well-researched this is. I can see how much effort was put into writing this script and saying it to the audience in a way that evokes emotion. Not a lot of people can manage to do that, but you're talented at this. Hoping to see more video analysis and deep dives from you soon! You have another fan now.
@kostasgalanis4589
2 ай бұрын
I love the fact you used the signalis ost that much , that game needs more attention and its ost is haunting
@aaronatkinson177
2 ай бұрын
Yeah I think the world of signalis is also a great fit for this topic as well as you are literally playing though fragments of a dying person's mind 😢
@rattled6732
2 ай бұрын
One nitpick. The pale king didn’t try to control the radiance at first, only as its influence became apparent and the infection emerged did he try to contain her
@vaskouchiha2071
2 ай бұрын
not me finishg a snnuy video and searching for something else to watch while eating just to go back to snnuy without realizing. Great video tho im really excited for the next one ^^
@MylesJacobSwie
4 күн бұрын
Okay so it is Snnuy. I thought I was going crazy, but his voice was too similar
@lekalex6052
Ай бұрын
Your soothing voice talking about these horrendous worlds is both hypnotising and terrifying. Great job !
@umtrain1730
Ай бұрын
Saw your Dredge video, and I got to say the quality of your channel is superb. Definitely deserve to blow up, keep it going man!
@jjc7951
2 ай бұрын
Bloodborne is way more miserable than ER
@TheKnightCrafter123
Ай бұрын
i mean…it isnt shocking that a horror souls game is more miserable than fantasy RPG that aims for color, beauty, and adventure
@capolean2902
Ай бұрын
i don’t think no game is far more miserable than each other when it comes to the souls series, they’re all equally miserable.
@nicolaskunstler281
2 ай бұрын
Wait... Sunny?
@arthurgvargas
2 ай бұрын
I think so
@BriamGzz
2 ай бұрын
It it's the sun man ♥
@teachingtotechcareer
Ай бұрын
i was like wait what sounds exactly like him
@hvnghesibuonnha
2 ай бұрын
You improve a lot with this video! Keep up the good work Mr. Sun Man!
@zorroxemo
Ай бұрын
I was so confused when I clicked on this video and heared snuuys voice
@SpyroX.I
2 ай бұрын
I'll get back to the vid after i play Hollow Knight :P. I think Rain World also fits into the narrative
@LamarjorieQueen
Ай бұрын
Finally, rain world AND hollow knight enjoyer.
@sapkowskichan
2 ай бұрын
nier: replicant and nier: automata perfectly show a dying world. they're fantastic games, definitely worth checking out!!
@greenhydra10
Ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention Little Nightmares, especially considering you mentioned Inside. The Nowhere fits the bill perfectly.
@jmkillerclone
Ай бұрын
I dont play LoR that much anymore so I'm thrilled to see you're branching out - great stuff!
@generalseal6948
28 күн бұрын
i think rainworld is a good example of a cruel hopeless world it takes place in a super violent ecosystem where even non predatory animals will sometimes want to kill you and the world itself is on a decline and there is no clear sign that anything will get better even after the saint ending
@lollezzo
2 ай бұрын
gotta say, really cool video! personally i never really thought of the hollow knight setting that way, and... its actually pretty damn accurate! cant wait to see what is up next!
@hellabisys
2 ай бұрын
Play Rain World :>
@sylvestrits7683
2 ай бұрын
If you choose to meddle in the affairs of passing gods
@HoldMeForever
2 ай бұрын
Wawa 🙀🐌
@hughquigley5337
18 күн бұрын
I LOVED this video. Criminally underrated, in my humble opinion. I had to skip the parts about Dark Souls and Inside, but more than anything else this video made me want to try Blasphemous. Outstanding job with this video, Cosmic Hour. If you see this, what made you want to make this video? Was it a life experience or a particular game/moment within a game? Maybe you said why in the video, but I forgot.
@baitposter
2 ай бұрын
The game called Below (by Capybara games) embodies this concept by design. The Forever Winter soon will, too.
@bobby-derkle
2 ай бұрын
man you are getting better & better with every video I wanna know what's next
@exmozii3107
2 ай бұрын
im surprised you didnt mention kenshi, amazing game.
@vazzeg
Ай бұрын
I was surprised, especially after you said that games don't have to have a happy ending to be meaningful, that you didn't mention SOMA. That's a game that utterly annihiliates your soul throughout, twists it one last time during the ending, and yet it is still one of the most beautiful game narratives ever created. You should play it, if you haven't already.
@LadyLibris
Ай бұрын
Your ideas, writing and editing just gets better and better with each video. I'm so excited for this channel
@JoriamRamos
2 ай бұрын
Hey, amazing collection of worlds, thanks for taking me on that journey :)
@MemoryMori
2 ай бұрын
Two games you could insert too: NieR Automata Ender Lilies (try it....its like Hollow Knight, just smaller...)
@Ayawokayy
5 күн бұрын
off topic kinda but Spiderman ps4 has such a overwhelming end game it feels so hopeless when the sinister six jumps you, breaks your ribs, releases an airborne bio weapon, a giant prison break, aunt may dying, and your father figure/inspiration becoming evil and hurting people just made everything feel so hopeless
@justushagenbauer5337
29 күн бұрын
Laika: Aged through Blood has a very cruel and hopeless world in a wartorn country where the natives have to fight of a facist, colonizing empire ( A war that has lasted 600+ years).
@HellWriter
Ай бұрын
Once an escape from reality become realization of reality
@injamamulhaque166
13 күн бұрын
Your content is deep and well written and presented keep going you deserve way more subscribers
@purpletrauma
Ай бұрын
Stumbled on your video after this, like lots of people probably did, and I'm pretty into it. You have a niche, and it's one I like more than the usual meme, indie hit, or AAA title niche most gaming accounts seem to do. At least, most that have any chance of being found the way I did you. Not quite the same niche I have in my favorites (quieter games more about the experience than the thrill; Inner Space, Everything, Proteus, TOEM, A Short Hike) but I can relate to being more focused on the details and experience of the game over the gameplay itself.
@danielschewtschuk5427
2 ай бұрын
Hey Snnuy, I have some advice or maybe just a opinion, but I really would like to share my thought with your Videos. First of all, you are doing a great job, and we all love more Snnuy Content, but in my humble opinion, there is room for improvement. Try to use your voice in different ways. What I mean by that is: You have a nice voice, and a good pronounciation but you could for example try to talk more silently and calmer or emphasize on certain key-words in your script or certain words with weight to them. I could also imagine, leaving some little spare time between sentences or blocks, could leave a more swaying feel to your telling. Whats also a very nice extra, is sound design. I really like the music you put under your voice, and I think you could also consider putting in some fx-sounds (maybe from the actual game if possible) to also build an even more in-depth audio experience for all of us. I really just want to share my thoughts so please, dont feel pressured by any of this at all :D its my humble opinion and maybe it inspires you to try out some of that. Thanks for reading and the good work, keep it up! :D
@NoirGamingLoR
2 ай бұрын
About Nacimiento, in Blasphemous 2 there is a little more lore to him.
@Lost_In_Neverwhere
2 ай бұрын
Well, I just got Hollow Knight on my Switch, so this is a nice surprise ❤
@LukasNaessens
2 ай бұрын
I think Lies of P is also a good example of this I think
@noobartist6009
Ай бұрын
The first Fear and Hunger game really encapsulates this I would say.
@onesunnyday9308
Ай бұрын
Another one I recall is BioShock. The radio interviews showing people before their transformations into violent and deranged splicers. Little sisters who show how innocents are used to breed profit. Big Daddies groaning painfully inside their suits. The entire city is festered with ruin and blood. It’s reeking of corruption, with great buildings and art-deco styles rusted and shattered after a catastrophe
@dragomaster2422
Ай бұрын
This video always makes me shiver when I watch the different cruel worlds
@gaefugg
2 ай бұрын
KENSHI KENSHI KENSHI
@yitam8375
2 ай бұрын
2:10 made me feel grateful with so much relief
@fabiobravo329
Ай бұрын
You forgot Tyranny's Iron age cold law and Signalis' East Germany on steroids
@_victorhhugo
2 ай бұрын
your writing is great! Keep it up!
@stupiedboii8824
Ай бұрын
I believe that Bloodborne and Elden Ring are almost perfect foils to each other. Different side of the same coin type thing. Elden Ring has large themes of gold and glory, where your character, and many characters you run into in the game, are searching for the glory of becoming the Elden Lord. However Bloodborne is Darkness and Despair. In it your character is simply trying to survive the night and tries to put an end to horrors that take place in that world. You want no glory, you seek no status, all you want is peace
@catalinaplaza7909
Ай бұрын
This video made me realize the type of games I like. There is also Little Nightmares, game play is very similar to Inside, and the world building is very intriguing
@tokiwartuthe
Ай бұрын
The soulsborne games are masters of obscure stories and the harsh worlds you inhabit....some of the best games I've ever played
@sleepymilk4599
Күн бұрын
I love this channel so much
@whorcares123
2 ай бұрын
"2 minutes ago" Guess I know what I am doing for the next 27 minutes
@aaronatkinson177
2 ай бұрын
The soul series is a very great example of this topic 👏 👍
@kingalex947
Ай бұрын
If you havent looked into it armoured core 6 has a pretty grang, grim universe, its also from software ☀️
@rockyvern2216
Ай бұрын
Oh shit you used World of goo's ost in your video. Insane sountrack
@boopsnoopdoop0119
26 күн бұрын
Love your channel!
@anonomusperson
2 ай бұрын
in your first hollow knight exsample, it also drives them into a murderous frenzy!
@Beeyo176
2 ай бұрын
The Signalis music is such a vibe
@slaaneshi
Ай бұрын
love the video but i feel as if you could've pulled from more references, dead space for example has a notably cruel universe (since i guess its not on one singular world), frostpunk is another great example of the harshness and fatality of the environment, green hell as well even though its mostly confined to one island, regardless, video was great, i just think that when people do think of cruel worlds that soulsborne and soulslikes are some of the most obvious examples ^_^
@jurtheorc8117
Ай бұрын
I wonder if Zenozoik from the Zeno Clash series can count for this type of world. It's not a hopeless world as such, but there is only one singular city full of freaks and monsters, there is no law, written language or even currency, technological aptitude is minimal, and the world both in- and outside the city requires you to be able to fight to survive. Zenozoik is very violent, organization is difficult, there are groups of people who willingly choose to go insane, and Zeno Clash 2 introduces the rise of a separate species who are learning societal concepts such as religion, a caste system and racial prejudice much faster. Compared to that species, the Zenos are much closer to cavemen or neanderthals. And that's only a side plot in 2: The end of Zeno Clash 1 has a creature trying to civilize the Zenos by way of introducing a jail and a group of enforcers, which has led to many people becoming an enforcer not out of a sense or even grasp of morality, but for self-servitude. Their presence did lead to the worst of the worst leaving the city... but are now *themselves* getting organized as a tribe of marauders with a brutal initiation rite of chopping off their own feet. Many normal Zenos are trying to leave the city to try and make their own town near the coast, but yet *another* group of folks steals their idea and their supplies as well. Zenozoik is a fascinating world full of color, creativity and bizarreness, but it's not one where you can really permit yourself to be soft.
@antipiece
Ай бұрын
please make more content! loving your videos man
@VforVictorYT
Ай бұрын
snnuy I presume, nice to find this channel, big fan of your other content
@RandomGuythe1st
2 ай бұрын
Ever heard of fear and hunger?
@riffz6065
8 күн бұрын
Fear & Hunger not on this list is a crime. It's like berserk but you're a side character.
@fernandomalpica1870
Ай бұрын
The scarlet rot, the miracke and the Radiance got nothin' on the Blight from Ender Lilies and what it did to the kingdoms of the Land's end, the fact that ya didn't named it is a shame.
@V1lkas
Ай бұрын
17:47 i hear depeche mode here
@SirMelyinovsky
Ай бұрын
Nice video, one game it reminded me of was definately Rain World
@-Vaizo-
Ай бұрын
You should check out rain world it really gives the "cruel world" type of vibe better then most games i played
@sebastiangrebe8276
Ай бұрын
Very nice video. I take a well written Dystopia over a Cookiecutter MMO/Extractionshooter any day
@hugh7619
Ай бұрын
Is this the pink region connoisseur?!?!?!
@brittanybecker170
Ай бұрын
I must be old but Nosgoth sound be on this list. Legacy of Kain built one of the most terrible places you could find yourself.
@Piggeth
2 ай бұрын
Pathologic 1 and 2 are the kings of cruel games
@Mark-xh8md
24 күн бұрын
Honestly, the world of Dishonored is up there among the worst possible worlds in fiction. W40K is worse, sure. But Dishonored is a close second.
@botondzoltannagy8849
2 ай бұрын
If i got a penny for every thumbnail that had the words: You are nothing I would be rich.
@wesleycolvin7158
Ай бұрын
I'm surprised Scorn isn't on this list.
@jbear3478
18 күн бұрын
Scorn is another level of what the fuck
@thesorrow4664
Ай бұрын
Where the Forever Winter heads at?!!
@burymeinjhenny918
2 ай бұрын
You should add fear and hunger !!
@bdura2021
2 ай бұрын
Rain World may be relevant, at least for Survivor's campaign
@all-aroundhelper
2 ай бұрын
I would suggest both Cogmind and Library of Ruina as both simply have a setting where one is not that welcome.
@user-eq8bp7fu7d
Ай бұрын
Absolute travesty that Rain World, the undisputed king of games with cruel worlds, is not a part of this video.
@blothsear7289
25 күн бұрын
I think Rain world definitely does this well.
@mrsauceman6825
Ай бұрын
Kenshi should be here also
@DyceLOR
2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah its that time again 🍿👀
@VAJASuxisvili
5 күн бұрын
Rain world enterd the chat
@zwiebeldogs
2 ай бұрын
Why is League if Legends not here
@HersgoryJigurda
2 ай бұрын
That's freaking Snnuy
@LittleJoeT
Ай бұрын
Do you make legends of runeterra videos by any chance?
@aaronatkinson177
2 ай бұрын
The little nightmares world is also very cruel 💔 😢
@Phoebus780
22 күн бұрын
Kenshi
@slushisimcambi2521
2 ай бұрын
Best boy dropped another banger
@maxhanspleb6624
Ай бұрын
Wait... Snuuy is that you? 😅
@ioanvalentinpavlov605
Ай бұрын
Gothic 1 world should have been here .
@Tooinsecuretousemyrealname
Ай бұрын
“Hopeless setting” Looks inside Hope ??????
@powerbeard5653
22 күн бұрын
real life is my least favorite game in this genre. turns out cruel worlds are a lot less enjoyable when you're one of the side characters getting tortured
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