Try the artillery hold and rest your hand on your stand. You will see much better results
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi @alexaudit4516, thanks for watching and taking the time to drop me a comment. I tried several holds off camera, all had much the same results. But I do agree, the looser the hold the better. However, that trigger was just to stiff for me. Anyway, from me and the team at theGunLocker, all the very best.
@markhomer5704
Жыл бұрын
100% agree with your evaluation of the rifle , could be quite a few injured animals roaming around the woods after using that particular rifle , in my opinion , a 12fpe rifle SHOULD be checked for accuracy by the RFD / manufacturer / or whatever prior to being sold .. yes , every individual one ... wouldn't take long .. Great review all the same .. loving yer content ..
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
It seems that a large part of the industry is completely skewed and lost common sense as well as quality control.
@johnwebster6360
7 ай бұрын
Have a Gamo Varmint Swarm gen 1 with 3-9-40 gamo scope. 3000 rounds in. Kills squirrels cleanly at 30m bottle caps 15m back garden with RWS H pionts & Super Sports. Great gun for the money.
@theGunLocker
7 ай бұрын
I wish I could say the same...it's not one for me. All the best and thanks for watching. Apologies for the late reply
@edgarmaynard5835
Жыл бұрын
Great review . Think that a fair judgement of that rifle maybe good value for the money , did have the Gamo Maxxin which was not too bad and the stock was a bit different. Look forward to your next review . 👍👍👍
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Edgar! I'm looking for ward to that one as well. If the Hi-Cap is anything to go by, the Puncher Knight should be impressive!? All the best.
@FREE_SPIRIT_WANDERER_71
12 күн бұрын
I recently bought the Gamo whisper sting ( only £60 ) from the father in law and it loves the gamo pro hunters 14.3 grains. The rest of my rifles hate them however the gamo does. I order mine online because like you said “ not all dealers have them in stock “ i did try some BSA gold stars too and hmmmm went well however for the price difference I’ll stick with gamo’s home brand. I can get consistent 1 inch groups from 25 yards. I don’t like the safety either nor a big fan of the plastic trigger and guard but for £60 I can’t really complain. I do think an AO scope helps a lot too.
@gabrielzygmunt1200
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I bought it a year ago and I had the same problem with accuracy. Five pellets in the center and one in the sky, the gun is unpredictable! My old air rifle that I bought around 15 years ago cost me £60 and it still shoot better. The only advantage of this one is power. Till now I was thinking that it is faulty, but it looks like all of them are like that. Unfortunately, with this accuracy, it is only suitable for shooting cans
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi Gabriel, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. It's a shame but it's simply a poorly made rifle in my opinion. All the best and thanks for subscribing.
@briandix216
Жыл бұрын
Hi, just seen nick vendings review of his gamo elite swarm. Also initially had poor accuracy with all pellets. Then a viewer advised him to check the forend stock screws, and yes they were both loose ! Had to remove rubber grip pieces to access them. Screws tightened and instant accuracy as it should be. He also changed trigger adjuster screw with a slightly longer one and was much happier too ! Hope this helps. Ps I too was disappointed to read the gamo doesn't come with open sights. Cheers Brian.
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Regards the forend stock screws...they have absolutely no bearing on accuracy as you can shoot almost all guns out of their stocks...not so for shotguns and semi-automatics. Plus it's a break barrel so again has no bearing on it. And I know of the screw being changed for a longer one but that should have been the responsibility of the manufacturer. Anyway, I do appreciate your comments and please carry on doing so. All the best. Mark.
@ronaldspice8890
Жыл бұрын
@@theGunLocker Sorry but your comment is not correct, if you have loose forestock screws, the action will float in the stock, up down side to side, causing accuracy issues, most good springer shooters know this and always check stock screws/bolts tensions.
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldspice8890 Not all springers have stock bolts/screws on the forend. And the new recoilless Diana is allowed to move.
@ronaldspice8890
Жыл бұрын
@@theGunLocker Yes I am aware of the so called new Diana Airking which is a relaunch of an old idea, even AA produced a recoilless model of the TX200. All I'm trying to point out is if you have a unstable platform that your action sits in, then theres a great chance of point of impact shift.
@BazLisie
Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, fine review as always. I have the Gamo Whisper X Storm .177 (£240) which is the same rifle in a different guise and struggle? Yes. Tightening my hold on the gun helped some but then I had to try not to snatch at the trigger which feels a bit Zen. The hex screws on the stock below the breech need regular tightening and that helps a bit too. And yes, it’s pellet picky. Webley Accupells kind of suit it. At best it groups within about an inch at 25 yards though I’m no Hawkeye but there are inevitable flyers. Since some shots are reasonably accurate the problem is not necessarily barrel quality. My guess is the magazine system. I, like you, seat the pellets with a probe but I doubt they settle in the breech consistently while cocking. The magazines does feel a bit tacky. The gun is fun, packs a punch but a challenge still and may remain inconsistent because of the loading system. Budget is budget. We can but try. £309 gets you a BSA Meteor Super which is another break barrel entirely! Bought the Remington War Hawk on your recommendation and that underlever is really good value for the money (£219). Thanks again for your broadcasts. Baz.
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi Baz, Thank you for your kind remarks and the leap of faith! For the money, The Warhawk is a surprisingly good underlever. Hope you enjoy it! Struggling to say anything good about Gamo at the moment. Anyway, all the best...shoot safe.
@davidcarter7310
10 ай бұрын
I have a 22 C L X different rifle yes but so accurate BSA barrel ! don't like the gas ram system but that's just me ! Good review
@MrRockstar1968
5 ай бұрын
Had the barrel been cleaned of this to see if that made any difference?
@neprevazutul
Ай бұрын
I have the swarm Magnum gen 2 in .22 caliber. Your Bisley grouping at 30 yards is my H&N grouping at 120 meters😊
@MrRockstar1968
Ай бұрын
I don't think the Swarm Magnum is available to the UK due to it been higher power than sub 12 ft'lb. The higher power may be contributing to better accuracy.
@Gold-d9x
3 күн бұрын
You wasted your money you should have bought the magnum pro 1300 feet per second
@MrRockstar1968
2 күн бұрын
@@Gold-d9x If your message was relating to me, then as my previous messages stated "The Gamo Magnum is not available to the UK due to it been higher power than sub 12 ft'lb."
@georgecooke5639
Жыл бұрын
Your findings are a mirror image of what I found with my gamo speedster. These are shockingly bad guns. I now find I’ve got a rifle that never sees light of day. I think it’s more gimmick than function. I also cleaned the barrel throughly and re-leaded. Like you my 77k is a keeper and regular shooter, sadly this isn’t ☹️ I must have put around 1000 pellets down rage with this gun. I actually thought the scope was the problem (parallax error) so changed it with the same result. Such a shame, I really wanted my gamo to work.
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
I honestly believe that some European manufacturers are treating the UK market as second rate and it's not right!
@johnfrancis5673
Жыл бұрын
I think thats' unduly harsh or you have a n unwarranted sense of loyalty & devotion to the 77K. I have the swarm maxim elite (basically the mark 1 version of this) and at 30 metres I get all 10 into a 2 inch group ctc with the main group 4 or 5 of them touching perhaps inside an inch with relatively cheap pellets & the basic scope that came with it & hits hard at 11.4. Now that I'm used to the relatively fast shooting of the swarm it seems painfully slow & unnecessarily long winded loading each single shot from the tin into the breech sometimes fumbling etc. The swarm magazine system added a whole new dimension of excitement & fun to break barrel air rifle shooting for me For example I can hit a can (or similar) at around 25 metres 10 times in around 30 seconds which is less then half the time I can do that with a single shot loaded break barrel.
@georgecooke5639
Жыл бұрын
@@johnfrancis5673 I must admit really like the innovation gamo have brought to the sport with the swarm mechanism. also like you I put my money down and paid for one the Gamo roadster, it was around £300. I still take it out in hope but capability of that gun is restricted to about 20/25 yrds in my opinion. As for being a wedded to the HW77. Yes it’s a great gun, but so is my TX200 & controversially my BSA lightning GRT. The difference with these three rifles is build quality, it’s first class and the accuracy is phenomenal and both the TX and HW are proven but they do come with a larger price tag. To me a good quality springer should be able to keep up with a pcp and I’ll say my Air Arms and HWs can. Personally accuracy is king and a 2” group at 25 is very disappointing from gamo when other springers can tip over a target at 50yrds with ease. Now am I still going to shoot it in hope, yes. The gamo is a budget gun and for the money you get a lot for a starter package. Maybe I got a Friday afternoon gun🤷♂️
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
@@johnfrancis5673 Hi John, thanks for commenting but let's be real about this. A two inch group at that distance is poor and equates to an injured animal that will suffer for a long time! It should be grouping under one inch. All the best.
@ClarkesonTheMarksman
Жыл бұрын
@@theGunLocker I'm not suprised as the UK restriction is pathetic. a sub market. the real market is in the good old US of A
@damiantuttle1348
Жыл бұрын
Well glad I watched the review now , think I'll look at something else, my groupings with a 1.77 BSA Meteor are more consistent than that .
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi @damiantuttle1348...glad it helped! All the best.
@1701enter
25 күн бұрын
I wonder if you and your subscribers are haveing problems because the rifle is so reduced in power? (Sub 12 I believe is the term now?) Here in Spain I have the same rifle (roadster Gen 2 5.5 /.22) I I find it both accurate and powerful with a very good range easily 50 meters but then I have 24 joules and the IGT Piston rather than a spring to back that up! I have also moved on to Norca slugs and find them excellent. I also found the Gamo pellets to be pretty poor especially the lower “practice” ones (So bad was that experience that sometimes the blessed pellet would fall out of the magazine!)
@theGunLocker
25 күн бұрын
I have to say that there is a substantial part of me, that truly believes manufacturers see our sub 12 ft lbs market as a lower class entity and rather than spend time and invest in technology, they simply cobble together products "that will do". And yes, with many of the sub 12 offerings on the market today, I feel that they would perform better at higher power outputs. And I guess that comes down to an increased twist / spin rate at the higher powers which provides more stability in flight. It's liking watching an American Quarterback throwing the ball...accuracy and distance directly correspond to how fast he can throw that ball along with the amount of spin he can impose on it at the start of its flight. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Much appreciated and all the best
@davidbooth60
Жыл бұрын
I Like your vids Very interesting I had the chance to try to get my cousin's gamo whisper sting shooting better I did a 16 different make of pellet test and it shot just like that one until i got to the jsb hades OMG Its brilliant now Blew the bull out every time Wasnt at 30 mtrs Was at about 18mtr Thought I'd let you know Thanks
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi David, thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Glad you like the reviews and that you enjoy shooting. At the end of day that's all that matters. All the best and hope you've subscribed.
@MrRockstar1968
5 ай бұрын
Gamo and BSA triggers are useless. Also to get any reasonable adjustment you need to put in a longer adjusting bolt/screw to achieve a lighter trigger. I also believe the multishot loading mechanism causes issues with loading and accuracy. You can purchase upgrade triggers which are claimed to improve accuracy. I wish Gamo would actually put more effort of care into their manufacturing.
@davidbooth60
Жыл бұрын
Just re watched aar on air with this gun Is it from the same manufacturer 🤔
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi David, yes it is and it's a springer he's shooting.
@MasterControl-MCP
Жыл бұрын
Got one of these on order, I’ll let you know!
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi @masterchief8932, firstly thanks for watching and secondly, I look forward to hearing about it. All the best from me and the team at theGunLocker.
@alanmullock381
Жыл бұрын
Spoiled by the build quality! They could charge more if it was better built🤬
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! And what's more other reviewers have mentioned and praised the fact that it has a BSA barrel and CAT trigger, but I have to say, I'm not impressed.
@krislambert6625
Жыл бұрын
hi,i bought one of these a few months ago from just airguns and to my surprise when i took it apart it was not gas ram,these are spring powered,i also bought the speedster and that is the same. also if you listen closely when he fires the shots you can here the buzz from the spring. alot of websites are advertising these rifles as IGT but i got in touch with pellpax and they got in touch with their gamo rep and he confirmed that they are IGT for the US and EU market but spring for the UK market...no idea why. after writing to a couple of online sellers they now not advertising them as IGT.
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Kris is right... it is a springer! My mistake for not checking and taking the manufacturer at face value.
@Shooting-Up
Жыл бұрын
Great review
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. All the best.
@EnduroQueb
8 ай бұрын
Have ever look at youre scope parallax ???
@theGunLocker
8 ай бұрын
Each an every time I put a scope on a rifle and settle down behind it. All the best and thanks for watching
@a.lame.username.
Жыл бұрын
Mine seems to be much more accurate 🤔
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi Bradley, firstly thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. There's no reason why it wouldn't be. All comes down to tolerances and how well it's put together. All the best and hope you've subscribed.
@pourya7184
Жыл бұрын
Im gonna buy one of these soon.does it worth it? In the video the shots was so accurate so why did u give it a 2.4 out of 5?
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi Pourya, thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. For me, the rifle isn't accurate. The groups were very poor at that distance and the barrel is pellet fussy. Now it is the sub 12ft lbs version that I reviewed, so more power may suit the twist rate of the barrel and improve accuracy, but in the format that I was using, I most definitely would NOT buy it! There are better rifles on the market. To put it into context, using that rifle to shoot vermin or small game would give you a 90% chance of injuring or maiming the animal and not dispatching it quickly and cleanly. Those odds are way too high and bordering on cruelty. Not something I can condone. All the best and hope you've subscribed.
@jokerl1995
6 ай бұрын
go ahead its even better than wh 80
@MrRockstar1968
5 ай бұрын
For a built in silencer 87db is terrible.
@rudolfvocke6577
Жыл бұрын
I had this rifle in .177 with 24 Joule. The accuracy was awful at only 20 meters. To my mind it is crap, My 40 years old HW 30 is quite more accurate and this is a pity.
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you! I still think that Weihrauch make some of the best air rifles. Thanks for watching and hopefully you've subscribed. All the best from me and the team at theGunLocker
@johnfrancis5673
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the 24 joule version ?
@rudolfvocke6577
Жыл бұрын
I got it in Portugal where the legal limit for airguns is 24 joules 😀
@airgungarage9941
11 ай бұрын
I don't own a gamo rifle. But i tried it. It seems gamo pellets work better with it. However, i am not a very big fan of Gamo's accuracy
@theGunLocker
11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't buy one!
@jonasmaraton6909
Жыл бұрын
Wie groß ist die Transfer port Bohrung bei der Original 45 joule 5,5 mm Version?
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jonas, please forgive the late reply. Also, thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Regards your question about the size of the transport port...I honestly do not know. Sorry! All the best.
@IceCold100
Жыл бұрын
What is the best gamo rifle that isnt pcp in your opinion?
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi, in all honesty I haven't shot enough Gamos to give an opinion. I'll let you know as time goes on. All the best and thanks for watching!
@IceCold100
Жыл бұрын
@@theGunLocker thanks for the honesty and reply, all the best
@johnwebster6360
7 ай бұрын
Varmint Swarm see my comment
@MrRockstar1968
5 ай бұрын
I believe you were over generous on the overall score.
@Maxten6
Ай бұрын
Just say you don't like Gamo, 4 comments us overkill 😂
@elito1111
10 ай бұрын
I own the same gamo roadster and it is garbage , it is not accuracy
@theGunLocker
10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't buy one
@alanmullock381
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👌
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Thanks @alanmullock381! All the best.
@gobstoppa1633
8 ай бұрын
if ya carnt shoot shoot free hand without sights ya carnt shoot at all, ya just a trigger puller.
@yojomojo6262
Жыл бұрын
I like the look of the gun but performance at that range is not ideal and the bottom 2 target groupings are wild 🤔
@theGunLocker
Жыл бұрын
Hi Yoko mojo, thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Get where you're coming from with regards the looks...was really disappointed with its performance. Also upset to find that it was a Springer and not a gas ram as stated by Gamo on their website. Just another maker taking advantage of the UK 12 ft lbs to sell us rubbish! Anyway all the best and hope you've subscribed.
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