Jimmy Greaves -- the greatest natural goalscorer England ever produced. Gary Newbon -- Bellend.
@swinetrek
5 жыл бұрын
Nah, Brian Clough was better
@bitTorrenter
5 жыл бұрын
@@swinetrek The better bellend?
@matthewcrawford7308
3 жыл бұрын
Brian Clough Banned Newbon from the city ground for taking the piss out of Forest.
@MrYFlyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@swinetrek which division?
@trojanx2006
4 жыл бұрын
Greavsie.. what a player.. that look he gives Newbon at the end says it all.
@ThefightingCelt
8 жыл бұрын
Patronising on Newbons part to think that Jimmy Greaves somehow wasn't aware that it was 1983 when Jimmy was referring to Big Brother from George Owells novel , 1984 .
@melancholiac
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Newbon was so quick with the sneering snobbery he missed the fact that Jimmy had already said 1984 and cited Big Brother earlier. Berk. 'Re the headbutt, a scrap is one thing but McMahon ending a fellow pro's career with a dangerous tackle is beyond the pale.
@seanreillyireland
11 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Gary Newbon regrets this. We all take time to grow up and realise we are just not that important - but Gary seriously comes across as thinking himself a superior class to one of the worlds greatest strikers of all time. I shudder to think how condescending he would have been to us guys here... sad.
@pipster1891
3 жыл бұрын
You think Jimmy Greaves is right on this point? That video evidence should never be used?
@nicklay3012
3 жыл бұрын
@@pipster1891 it wasn't that Greavsie's POV was correct (but then bear in mind this was 1983 and the idea of television evidence would have been a very alien concept here), but more so that Newbon started being condescending towards Jimmy about getting his literature knowledge wrong. I am sure, and would hope, Newbon regrets this. He was a great ringside reporter at ITV broadcast boxing, but this clip was not his finest hour.
@davidholgate123
3 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. I remember me and my dad thinking he was incredibly arrogant back in the day when watching boxing and the way he treated people sometimes.
@nicklay3012
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidholgate123 Actually, come to think of it his interviewing technique at boxing was quite aggressive (even more than Garry Richardson) and often antagonising. I was probably thinking more of Reg Gutteridge the boxing commentator, as being sound at his job. The way he carried on talking loudly over Greavsie's perfectly valid arguments here was cringeworthy. Jimmy was a legend, knew his football, and a thoroughly decent and humble man, and didn't deserve such rudeness and condescension. And the school masterly "we're not going to agree on this" could have been taken as "you should be agreeing with me on this".
@vastariner
4 жыл бұрын
The context of this is a Villa-Blues derby in 1983 when Blues' Noel Blake stuck the nut on Villa's Steve McMahon after the final whistle, and Newbon sent the footage to the Football League demanding they take action. What Newbon did not do is ask the League to take action against McMahon, who, earlier in the match, put a two-footed studs up foul on Kevan Broadhurst which ended his career. Which is why Blake took his revenge afterwards. McMahon was not so hurt that he could not flee to the Villa dressing room when he saw Mick Harford coming for him as well.
@johnmcdonald8567
4 жыл бұрын
Villa fan agreeing. You're right 👍
@elainekerslake6865
3 жыл бұрын
Those were the days. Graham Rix slagged off Blake and took a slap from Blake who then got sent off at Highbury. All Part of the game but no diving around .
@jamiew1664
2 жыл бұрын
your spot on, after reading your comment i looked up that incident on youtube and the tackle and the headbutt are both there.
@VanderlyndenJengold
2 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/tGaCnqmepIlqhno Highlights. Pretty violent match on a slightly damp pitch. Blake also missed a penalty.
@kasimsultonfan
2 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm concerned , you could take a petrol tanker down Villa Park, open the taps, put a match to the place & film every second and I still wouldn't see it as evidence of any wrongdoing.
@nicklay3012
2 жыл бұрын
"On the evidence of television?", "Nah, nah, come on Gah..." Incredulity and calm dismissiveness are sometimes the only way to come back at a Know All. Well done, Jimmy, for standing your ground but not rising to the shout bait.
@johnsullivan2652
2 жыл бұрын
How prophetic were Jimmy's words because look what's happened, exactly what he spoke about.
@nicklay3012
3 жыл бұрын
I used to love the way Greavsie's voice would go up half an octave when he was annoyed. There was a similar occasion, to around 1 minute in during this clip, that he got really upset at a veteran Jimmy Case (42 y-o at the time) getting a second bookable offence for time wasting for Brighton at Leicester "that is!!...that is an embarrassment to football!!". Maybe that is also on YT? More to the point, I used to really love watching Greavsie on the telly. Really good chap, was Jimmy. RIP, Sir.
@easyTaff
9 жыл бұрын
Greavsie knows his stuff
@23clownshoes
3 жыл бұрын
This is why FA never likes Jim.. The Man is a Legend of the game who saw back then where this once great game was going.
@paulbloom8847
3 жыл бұрын
James Peter Greaves a TRUE legend and a more natural goalscorer than anybody else who has ever played the game
@maratonlegendelenemirei3352
3 жыл бұрын
Brian Cloughs record is pretty good, 250 odd goals in only 270 odd appearances.
@StonyStevenson75
Жыл бұрын
@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 All but one of Clough's 251 goals in 274 apps for Middlesbrough and Sunderland were in the 2nd division. Greaves 357 goals in 516 1st division games is still the record.
@dhollsynthmusic
13 жыл бұрын
very interesting point-of-view from Jimmy there: "the TV cameras are only there as guests of the club (and therefore should not meddle)". I think Sepp Blatter agrees.
@anthonybailey1966
9 жыл бұрын
MrAvalanche64 They were really called the Solihull Barons,who were an Ice Hockey team...I think Gary Newbon ran the team at the time of this clip....Greaves just called them the Solihull Newbons for devilment!
@JasonC1782
10 жыл бұрын
If anybody's interested, this "discussion" is about Birmingham's Noel Blake being called up before the FA for headbutting Villa's Steve McMahon after Central provided them with a tape of the incident - which the referee didn't see at the time. Blake was duly banned and fined and Blues manager Ron Saunders duly banned Central's cameras from St Andrews.
@pars4245
8 жыл бұрын
Tx for letting me know. I was wondering what it was all about.
@1258-Eckhart
3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with Greavsey on this.
@divinity176
2 жыл бұрын
What, you just ignore reality because you don't like how it came to light?
@WELLBRAN
4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy was spot on there
@jamesbomd3503
2 жыл бұрын
The only TV football pundit who could naturally connect with children making football entertaining not boring
@gregod806
3 жыл бұрын
Good on you James. Plus you are a legend and he's not even a bellend.
@LimaLima95
2 жыл бұрын
Jim said 1984 and then '1983, only a few months left.' Newbon still tried to be condescending and then admitted Jimmy was right.
@matthewwright7831
3 жыл бұрын
Newborn trying to mock Gresvsie on literature and looking like Samantha Fox's left one
@LKeet6
13 жыл бұрын
jimmy greaves looking smart and talking about 1984!? interesting.
@Steaks652
3 жыл бұрын
Newbon was always a tedious plonker.
@stephent9677
3 жыл бұрын
RIP Jimmy
@callithowiseeit5806
6 жыл бұрын
Greavsie knew
@lukas_jay243
Жыл бұрын
Top stuff Jim. Look at the state of media now.
@Welshgr81
13 жыл бұрын
Was Jimmy Greaves bringing up ice hockey there,the solihull newbons v nottingham panthers,big punch up,Yeah baby.
@angsta
13 жыл бұрын
Go arrrnnnn Jim!!!
@shanekelley7682
3 жыл бұрын
Was it the battle of St Andrews they were on about? Vs Villa?
@darren2514fv
Жыл бұрын
Star Soccer and the reason for the move to London and On The Ball for Jimmy Greaves was the end of regional coverage on ITV
@superman00001
2 жыл бұрын
What an absolute legend of the game. There will never be another Gary Newbon.
@whyte244
3 жыл бұрын
look what it has lead to VAR
@garychapman4294
8 жыл бұрын
Jim looks very trim
@williamdiffin28
2 ай бұрын
Newbon's absolutely right of course, and it's always against the laws of the game for a player to headbutt someone no matter what he did to provoke it, even if he got away with a career-ending tackle on the player's team-mate earlier in the match. Newbon sending Central TV footage of the headbutt to the FA is just an early example of VAR in action. But it's 1983. No VAR here. And it's Jimmy Greaves, the greatest goal-scoring talent that England ever cultivated. No one gives a shit what Newbon says. Shit on the Villa.
@richardsharpe2966
7 жыл бұрын
What were Jimmy Greaves and Gary Newbond arguing about would like to know please
@gavinreid8937
6 жыл бұрын
Wow, in a roundabout way, . A football player having a bet & hoping we never get VAR ,this WAS 35 years ago!
@robertroyfellows
12 жыл бұрын
Newbon = Horrible little toad
@bitTorrenter
5 жыл бұрын
Reminds a little of James O'Brien.
@davidlalor9464
3 жыл бұрын
Thats a insult to a toad . Gory nnborn is terrible and a total fraud of a sports presenter .
@ArchieFatcackie
2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy was certainly not well pleased with Newbon there.
@smith077906
10 жыл бұрын
who was right in this?
@ChrisMeerkat
4 жыл бұрын
Top bin Jimmy!
@simonpearn479
4 жыл бұрын
Well Saint. What exactly were they referring to?
@Nexxus79
3 жыл бұрын
Villa v Birmingham in October 1983, when Central TV reported a Villa player to the FA for a headbutt that the referee didn't see.
@tonyska
2 жыл бұрын
Central News Sport was class when these pair were on air...
@MrAvalanche64
13 жыл бұрын
Who on earth are the Solihull Newbons??
@mkbuddy
3 жыл бұрын
RIP Jimmy Greaves
@WELLBRAN
3 жыл бұрын
Now..tv owns football.. lock stock and barrel
@stevenmorley1639
3 жыл бұрын
Gary Newbon ...the Times over the years he put his T.V foot right in it......
@markhayes4149
3 жыл бұрын
This is Big Brother 1983.......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Revelian1982
Жыл бұрын
What was this about?
@kisbie
13 жыл бұрын
@MrScoopy19 They're still guests - in the same way that children think of Santa Claus as a 'guest'.
@sageonion533
2 жыл бұрын
And then along came Sky Sports and rightly F'd it all up 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@peterpeterxxo
11 жыл бұрын
are they gary's rent boys ?.
@RastafarianRussian
13 жыл бұрын
The Guardian also brought me here
@shafiq1537
3 жыл бұрын
newbon was nice to me when i met him but like greavisie too
@SirPeter6464
3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Greaves threw one punch on a football field. It missed.
@tomthomassony8607
2 жыл бұрын
And in 2022 if Jimmy Greaves (RIP) had farted walking down the high street, some numpty would have recorded it on their smartphone and it would go viral within 24 hours.
@1980redkremlin
13 жыл бұрын
@squiremarr me too!
@Dead-Ball-Situation
12 жыл бұрын
Whilst i am watching this, for all of Sky Sport's faults at least they recruit pundits with personalities. The BBC is the capital of dull.
@raftonpounder6696
3 жыл бұрын
That was ITV. The BBC wouldn’t employ crap like Newbon.
@SirPeter6464
3 жыл бұрын
There has never been a time where TV evidence hasn't been used. Not in my lifetime. Footballers used the excuse of distraction and the final whistle for cheap shots. Never seen a footballer try anything with a bloke who was their size or bigger. Fair play to rugby players who could take it and give it. Footballers are not that brave.
@peterpeterxxo
11 жыл бұрын
he was told..never to go to full spastic..but he did..he went full spastic.
@youweechube
10 жыл бұрын
Gary Newbon was right
@dannylewington2605
7 жыл бұрын
youweechube shut up you fuckwit
@ppuh6tfrz646
3 жыл бұрын
I love Jimmy Greaves but he was wrong here. Newbon was right.
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