He was a killer for like a short bit when Lance Stephenson blew in his damn ear but otherwise nah
@Inactious
18 күн бұрын
you are a killer at 40 when you're averaging 25 7 and 8, MJ could never😂
@threadbarephoenix9904
18 күн бұрын
oh he's not wrong. LeBitch HAS become a killer. He killed AD's and Darvin Ham's and so many other supporting players and coaches' careers. Hell, he MIGHT have killed the Fakers by holding Jeannie hostage and forcing her to choose his dumbass no-talent cumstain of a son.
@jessewright8930
5 ай бұрын
It’s been 20+ years how long will it take him to become a killer 😂
@daharambe.
5 ай бұрын
it’s been 21 years you mean 😂
@jessewright8930
5 ай бұрын
@@daharambe. I put 20+
@daharambe.
5 ай бұрын
@@jessewright8930 ooo
@bigphil56
4 ай бұрын
40k says hes a killer 😂
@jessewright8930
4 ай бұрын
@@bigphil56 40k says he been in the league for 21 years with no real injuries averaging 25+. You don’t have to be a killer to be one of the greatest to ever do it. We talking about what we see not just stats.
@masterkong363
4 ай бұрын
LeBron James = 👑 Micheal Jordan = 🐐
@ajjones5504
Жыл бұрын
Gary Payton all OVER the place on the G.O.A.T. conversation 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kurtbertrand9829
Жыл бұрын
The main difference is MJ had a killer mindset from start to finish.
@laamkingent1
Жыл бұрын
Really but Lebron came out of HS and was better than most of the players already in the league
@kurtbertrand9829
Жыл бұрын
@@laamkingent1 The NBA was already soft when Le bron came to league. Jordan had it a lot harder than Le bron did. In todays NBA anybody can have a 30point night in the 80s and 90s you had to earn a 30 point night.
@Bank4Hunnid
Жыл бұрын
@@kurtbertrand9829 soft? Where did you get this understanding from. Detroit Pistons? Indiana Pacers? Boston Celtics.
@kurtbertrand9829
Жыл бұрын
@@Bank4Hunnid Yes soft go and look at NBA 80s and 90s Physical. You don't see this anymore, todays basket ball is soft as bread. Jordan went thru hell with the Detroit Pistons . I don't remember Le Bron going thru this punishment.
@pumpkin9916
Жыл бұрын
The main difference is Lebron was extremely good from start to finish. Age 38: Lebron 30/8.5/7 , 50% FG MJ 22/5/5 , 41% FG (but was a killer, shhh)
@user-kz4dl9qh9n
3 ай бұрын
MJ was a better scorer, defender, and more clutch 🐐
@sebastianro7746
Ай бұрын
Did you mention he didn’t have a left hand😂
@strengthandhonor9334
Ай бұрын
@@sebastianro7746It’s crazy how much better he must be than everyone else if he was able to accomplish what he accomplished with only one hand.
@sebastianro7746
Ай бұрын
@@strengthandhonor9334 yeah because the era was weaker
@strengthandhonor9334
Ай бұрын
@@sebastianro7746BAHAHAHAHAHA. Jordan would average 40 in today’s game.
@sebastianro7746
Ай бұрын
@@strengthandhonor9334 you say that like he can shoot. He went 5/40 in the 3 point contest, that’s your goat😂
@alexwalker1608
4 ай бұрын
"He may have the best take yet!" and then it to turns out he said the same shit we have all heard a thousand times
@kac0404
Жыл бұрын
Jordan.. PERIOD!!!!! Straight up GOAT 🐐
@coach_zachw
Жыл бұрын
MJ is guilty of making the NBA soft .. he got everything called …the pistons were labeled villains & the refs supported Mikes 1st 3 chips…go watch the tape…refs rarely help. Lebron ..I don’t get it . Almost same speed vertical agility ball handling but Bron 6’9 250 MJ 6’6 198😂 common sense Bron is the 🐐 MJ’s era was still so unathletic..honestly
@aaryasharma4940
Жыл бұрын
@@coach_zachw mf you're spamming your comment everywhere, even people getting paid don't show this level of meat riding go get a life
@rdogletree4543
Жыл бұрын
He was 198 in his earlier years, he weighed around 220 after the 1990 playoffs. But getting hammered every time you drive to the basket was ridiculous. There's no hand check now so how did he make the game soft? If the rules didn't change back then there wouldn't be a flagrant 1 or 2 now. LeBron is a bigger and stronger athlete but it's not a game of one on one so it would've likely been Pippen guarding him since he was 6'8 235.
@aaryasharma4940
Жыл бұрын
@@rdogletree4543 yea MJ would destroy Lesoft on offense, Lesoft can't defend him and Scottie locks him down these meat riders prolly get paid for doing this
@braydenlanza6476
Жыл бұрын
@@coach_zachwtf u on
@brandongaspard1738
Жыл бұрын
Jordan=Quality Bron=Quantity
@bradleyowusu9589
Жыл бұрын
Lebron has both
@flux2956
Жыл бұрын
There's no quality in shots. It's either a basket or not. This is not Nba2k kid.
@lmaoidontcare6019
Жыл бұрын
@@flux2956 are you slow? ofc there isn't, he meant there playstyles, their amount of finals wins, and how MJ did more in a shorter amount of time than Lebron did in 20 seasons
@flux2956
Жыл бұрын
@@lmaoidontcare6019 I dont think you know what slow means. Btw, lebron did a lot in a shorter time than mj ever did. You obviously don't know what you're talking about 🤓
@lmaoidontcare6019
Жыл бұрын
@@flux2956 Michael Jordan in fifteen seasons, six rings, five MVPs, 10 scoring titles, Lebron in 19 seasons, 4 rings 4 MVPs
@sloanmartin6512
3 ай бұрын
The fact this is a debate in general is crazy.
@TinyCat1015
5 сағат бұрын
How
@JO-cj2dv
5 ай бұрын
Calling a midlife crisis turning into a killer is just hilarious😂
@Panazoniac
Жыл бұрын
MJ will always be "the Michael Jordan of" basketball.
@BEFREE3
Жыл бұрын
MJ will always have better shoes
@urvanairhorn7156
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@TheRealReal337
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@clawzx1195
Жыл бұрын
@@BEFREE3and a better space jam movie
@BEFREE3
Жыл бұрын
@@clawzx1195 you watched space jam? 🤣
@cellmate1
Жыл бұрын
Gary hates MJ after what Jordan said about him on The Last Dance 😂😂😂
@JS-fw9ot
Жыл бұрын
So he should. Jordan was an arrogant pr*ck who mocked Payton who was actually right when he said he did an okay job guarding him in the finals. Jordan only scored over 30 points once and had 2 other games where he shot 5-19 and 6-19. That's a decent job against someone that averaged 30ppg but Jordan couldn't bring himself to show any respect despite winning the ring and it being 25 years later.
@janirosario5751
Жыл бұрын
He does 😂😂😂
@carlosvillafierte9119
Жыл бұрын
And that MJ denied him of a championship 😂
@LamanchaNegra-zz6wg
Жыл бұрын
you gotta beat tha refs too 🤷🏾♂️
@thechampion9525
Жыл бұрын
Same as Isaiah Thomas 😅 obviously they will talk negative from the goat
@biggrime
6 ай бұрын
The dumbest argument of all time
@faygoyt246
3 ай бұрын
fr.
@zachk5652
Ай бұрын
“Bron is the best all-around player, but Mike is a killer so I have to go with Mike” The cognitive dissonance goes crazy😂😂😂😂😂😂
@nplamad6495
Ай бұрын
Good one but lebron don't give the expectation and worsen his history by illegal play like travel and flop Gifted physical but not mental
@zachk5652
Ай бұрын
@@nplamad6495 MJ quit on his teams twice
@biggrime
Ай бұрын
@@nplamad6495 for me the reason why this argument is dumb because we don't know how LeBron would do back in the nineties. And we don't know how Jordan would do in today's gameplay. We only can compare to what we've seen from them. LeBron and Jordan would play different if they played in different era. We don't know what that would look like
@drakes1515
5 ай бұрын
4 times in NBA history has someone won the scoring title, mvp,won the championship, finals mvp and 1st team all defense in the same year. Jordan did it all 4 times. Hands down the goat!!!
@dorenittamalone4187
4 ай бұрын
Against 9 HOF😭 bron doing this against 21 HOF💯
@jdub2878
4 ай бұрын
Michael was given those accolades because he resuscitated the NBA. Corporations had a vested interest in promoting MJ's greatness. Money driven.
@BaracoObama
4 ай бұрын
@@dorenittamalone4187 lets not talk about bron in the eastern conference
@d-rosejames4553
4 ай бұрын
LeBron is better all around Player and Yeah He the Goat. hehehe Awwwww All Stats ahead of MJ by far. except steals hehehe
@dontadeshun
4 ай бұрын
@@d-rosejames45536 titles in 8 years only played 15 seasons 2 of them he only played 18 games i believe. Mj did more in less time stats don't tell them whole story plus lbj really shots 37% outside of 6ft meaning his shooting percentage is from 65% layups and dunks in a weak defensive era
@waldo-ot6ul
Жыл бұрын
Turning into a killer at 38 ? To late to do that. Mike was ripping hearts out at age 20
@ChanChan-ro7gd
Жыл бұрын
Lebron was a killer at 20 as well
@waldo-ot6ul
Жыл бұрын
@@ChanChan-ro7gd but not bringing the fear Jordan did
@capybara8855
Жыл бұрын
@@ChanChan-ro7gd Lebron was making people shiver, MJ made the world shiver
@lesterking2790
Жыл бұрын
Word 😂
@lesterking2790
Жыл бұрын
Chan Chan 😂🤣💦😂👌🏼
@joeyo5952
8 ай бұрын
He is turning into a killer of teams… His own team 😂
@joebuss8835
6 ай бұрын
This was fkn funny. Ty
@AJ_Editz15
6 ай бұрын
@user-mw8sv9dq6yand got swept by the nuggets last season
@user-kx2rk2qz2e
6 ай бұрын
Turning into that killer😂😂😂 Bro he's been in the league 20yrs already 🤦🏽 The greatest all-around player 🤔 They made the category up to benefit benefit Bron... If that's the case Who was the greatest all around player before Le'Teamshuffler
@Kingjames313
6 ай бұрын
@user-mw8sv9dq6ylmao
@Blk9698
6 ай бұрын
Nah he's a crybaby bum @@user-kx2rk2qz2e
@scottsummers4707
5 ай бұрын
It’s sounds like Gary Payton said a lot words, and said nothing at the same time.
@carlossolrac5359
3 ай бұрын
Seems more like you heard a lot of words and refused to listen. Casuals
@obrianward4190
2 ай бұрын
Let me simplify. He said bron is the greatest all around player ever!!!!!!
@scottsummers4707
2 ай бұрын
@@obrianward4190 that’s not saying he’s the goat though!!!!!
@obrianward4190
2 ай бұрын
@@scottsummers4707 he said it without creating too much controversy for himself. It's called word play
@obrianward4190
2 ай бұрын
@@scottsummers4707 he said it without creating too much controversy for himself. It's called word play!!!!!!
@brentallen15
5 ай бұрын
Whining has to be included in the discussion.
@bibidybop
Жыл бұрын
You’re not becoming that “killer” at 38 years old 😂
@dontrellsloan8337
Жыл бұрын
Really though it only took 20 years 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤭🤭😂😂
@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
Жыл бұрын
@@dontrellsloan8337 Lebron does has a Killer mindset Just not like Kobe an Mike every animal kills different. You don’t go to 10 straight finals an not be a killer or get over 38,000 points
@MaleikRaikwon
Жыл бұрын
A lion anticipates the exact moment, tries to elimate every mistake and possibility of a miscue and then proceeds to rip your heart out and is a vicious killer that we respect. But a Tiger, They’re getting their kill whether you see it coming or not. Bron is that Lion and Jordan and Kobe are the exclusive tigers
@garrettgrimes9656
Жыл бұрын
@@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire one is undefeated in the finals and hae a mvp offensive scoring title mvp and defensive scoring title all within same season. Other is 4-6 in finals..
@bernie906
Жыл бұрын
MJ cries whenever someone talks bad about him. Bron played 20 years at the highest level, being the most scrutinized athlete in US history. He played through the social media age where all the haters are 24/7. Yet he still delivers. If that isn't a killer instinct I don't know what is.
@mazukamba2573
10 ай бұрын
MJ is the GOAT 🐐 PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
@Dogdigger-xy9vk
Ай бұрын
👑💯🥇🐐🏀🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾
@VoldoronGaming
23 күн бұрын
Nope. It’s Larry bird.
@XobeenMasayon
19 күн бұрын
Wake prime LeBron he beats prime Michael
@BigBoiSlim1000
16 күн бұрын
@@XobeenMasayon😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Jakobebeballin
13 күн бұрын
@@VoldoronGaming🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@chadtzygaming
2 ай бұрын
Mj taking it seriously>any version of Bron
@tipigi3570
5 ай бұрын
Sounds like Gary is turning into a politician, and not really answering the question.
@ucruz3
Жыл бұрын
Becoming a killer at the end tail of his career is just damn near impossible 😔😂
@tankwhite.7036
Жыл бұрын
Big lie LeBron has the most game winners in the playoffs with a higher PERCENTAGE.
@nassiglutt6587
Жыл бұрын
@@tankwhite.7036where did that killer go in those 6 final losses😩🤣
@tankwhite.7036
Жыл бұрын
@nassi glutt The same place killer MJ went when Isaiah Thomas Pistons eliminated him 3 straight years from the playoffs. MJ couldn't even make it to the Finals
@nassiglutt6587
Жыл бұрын
@@tankwhite.7036 nah that aint no "finals" lol. Those days are the "young and learning stages' like your idol's early days. TBH Isiah was so embarrassed when he didn't shook hands after they were finally sweeped by the bulls so he retired early at 32, still a prime bull, as hes got too much pride. He can't take a loss again year after year😭🤣
@tankwhite.7036
Жыл бұрын
@@nassiglutt6587 😂😂😂😂😂😂 wtf are you talking about.
@jordanchew9552
Жыл бұрын
He is killing alright, killing those flopping techniques
@HennesseyNCigarz
15 күн бұрын
That man hasn’t flopped in years yall keep bringing that up
@ferdinandbautista4912
2 ай бұрын
Lebron choked again against the Denver Nuggets. His previous GM accused him of quitting in a game. C’mmon, end this GOAT debate. MJ is the GOAT…………….
@dracoaf4489
5 ай бұрын
Micheal Jordan played 15 seasons w 6 rings, LeBron played 21 seasons so far w 4 rings. End of debate
@Monkeybrain760
3 ай бұрын
I didn’t know you win championships by yourself goofy ass comment
@jameskennerly4412
3 ай бұрын
Bill Russell played 13 years 11 rings. End of debate 👀
@courageokojie6849
3 ай бұрын
Their logice is so idiotic@@jameskennerly4412
@faygoyt246
3 ай бұрын
@@jameskennerly4412 but still bill russell isnt the goat. its jordan
@krces1
2 ай бұрын
13 seasons and 35 games(18 games-85 injury and 17 games-95 comeback)
@user-xm6jq8jc6y
10 ай бұрын
It has never been a debate. Jordan is the goat💯
@MrJewlz83
6 ай бұрын
Goat belongs to Kobe
@lapx1
6 ай бұрын
@@MrJewlz83ur delusional. Take ur medicine 😂
@user-xm6jq8jc6y
6 ай бұрын
@@MrJewlz83 How? If Kobe was motivated by Jordan, copied his moves, asked him for advice and still came up short with less titles and played 7 more years in the NBA than Jordan did. Jordan wasn't motivated by anyone, he didn't have any superstar to ask for advice, he's selfmade and he's undefeated in the finals, Kobe lost 2 championships. How many championships would Jordan of won if he had Shaq? U must not know your basketball knowledge son...
@MrJewlz83
5 ай бұрын
@@lapx1 and you need to remember Kobe winning without any hall of famers when shaq left the Lakers..
@MrJewlz83
5 ай бұрын
@@user-xm6jq8jc6y how many hall of famers did Kobe have when he won without Shaq?
@gavinperry8433
Жыл бұрын
Man is 38 and he's " Turning into that killer " ? MJ is the GOAT
@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
Жыл бұрын
Lebron does has a Killer mindset Just not like Kobe an Mike every animal kills different. You don’t go to 10 straight finals an not be a killer or get over 38,000 points
@strifefresh3998
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@coach_zachw
Жыл бұрын
MJ is guilty of making the NBA soft .. he got everything called …the pistons were labeled villains & the refs supported Mikes 1st 3 chips…go watch the tape…refs rarely help. Lebron ..I don’t get it . Almost same speed vertical agility ball handling but Bron 6’9 250 MJ 6’6 198😂 common sense Bron is the 🐐 MJ’s era we’re still so unathletic..honestly
@Seth_Palmer
3 ай бұрын
@@coach_zachwrefs rarely help lebron. Nah. Also the pistons punched & tackled Michael. There’s a reason why his nickname is leActor
@AceParks
3 ай бұрын
Neither one of them can stop each other 😭
@trevanhatch8717
5 ай бұрын
Killers don’t have epic meltdowns in the playoffs. Killers don’t throw teammates under the bus, constantly get coaches fired, and chase around the league for rings like LeBron and KD.
@pucz8215
5 ай бұрын
And now you know way Payton isn’t on tv anymore lol
@theslimeacornyt5172
3 ай бұрын
Yeah man that was retarded
@tiwillis1222
Жыл бұрын
Garry is one of the many Supreme players Michael stopped from getting a ring..
@erakram14
Жыл бұрын
Yeah and get his with young wade and shaq.
@ecnumber1fan
Жыл бұрын
Yup 👍
@pedrogarcia1351
Ай бұрын
Gary was badass no doubt tho...my dawg was Penny Hardaway in the 90s...dem bulls and magic games were the finals before the finals in my eyes back when
@Darryl-no7dp
Ай бұрын
😂@@pedrogarcia1351
@jayrizz1136
28 күн бұрын
Debate over
@fps3693
Жыл бұрын
Mj for life no one has displayed the art of basketball like mj
@johnvanderwesthuizen2283
Жыл бұрын
I salute you in this comment!!!!!!
@johnbills3056
Жыл бұрын
Comparing LeBron to Jordan is just an Insult. There's no universe where LeBron is on the same par as Michael Jordan. LeBron has zero move, Zero.
@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
Жыл бұрын
Lebron does has a Killer mindset Just not like Kobe an Mike every animal kills different. You don’t go to 10 straight finals an not be a killer or get over 38,000 points
@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
Жыл бұрын
@@johnbills3056 You actually right it is a insult to compare Jordan to Lebron because Lebron came into the league with a burden on his shoulders an met the expectations he sign a 100 million dollar deal before playing a NBA game people expected Lebron to be great. Everyone knew Mike was a great player but no one expected him to be the best of the best the face that runs the place. Which gave Mike room to grow an get better.
@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
Жыл бұрын
@@johnvanderwesthuizen2283 Jordan was the underdog that became the man Lebron was just always the man since High school people paid money to see him play in high school 500 to a 1,000 front row seats.
@nubmaat-reiii4564
6 ай бұрын
It's never been a debate.
@southerngunner2614
5 ай бұрын
hes turning into a senior citizen
@SeyiOlotu-zw4uk
4 ай бұрын
Lol yeah!
@petrosnemardos
11 ай бұрын
"Lebron is turning into that killer" means he's not a killer.
@KingKong-ux3gg
7 ай бұрын
So he’s been playing for 21 years and NOW he’s becoming the killer
@Lebronking777
7 ай бұрын
@@KingKong-ux3gg he is a killer just not like Mj or Kobe
@snerdterguson
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, MJ killed his opponents, he never had a playoff series like Bron has had multiple times, where he killed his OWN team
@Ozem_Israel
6 ай бұрын
@@Lebronking777stop the 🧢
@Lebronking777
6 ай бұрын
@@Ozem_Israel your telling me the warriors got KD cuz they liked him? They literally beat him why would the want him bro
@arceus1507
9 ай бұрын
Killers don't flop. MJ is a competitor, he chased wins.
@radzsakape7845
6 ай бұрын
But Mj is the one invented flopping 🤷😂 the teacher and the Master its LeGOAT Thing 💪😁👑🐐
@buzzwilder805
6 ай бұрын
@@radzsakape7845Le Choke 🥱
@cretestlloyd4681
6 ай бұрын
MJ is known for being a killer not flopping🤡@@radzsakape7845
@TeranIcer
6 ай бұрын
Meanwhile THE biggest floppers (T Young, & Harden) who actually got rules changed bcuz of it, goes unnoticed by biased people like u.
@AdamEdn
6 ай бұрын
Do killers quit repeatedly? lol
@Jimfoe77
5 ай бұрын
It took Bron 20 yrs to find that killer instinct 😮
@Marshall._F
5 ай бұрын
Someone said “Gary Payton is hated by nature at this point”💀💀💀
@ericbethea1306
Жыл бұрын
News flash there was never a debate, Jordan the Goat Period in of discussion
@salvadorruiz3692
Жыл бұрын
100
@avrahamgoyenstein5117
Жыл бұрын
Don't get upset when someone says Lebron is the goat. They're obviously too young to have witnessed true greatness.
@ericbethea1306
Жыл бұрын
I don't get upset and I know that and Lebron is great also but everybody can't be Mike lol
@randommthrfkr6568
Жыл бұрын
Its such a fake debate bring forced on us. But if there was a debate, the last dance ended it.
@mrankles7465
Жыл бұрын
@@avrahamgoyenstein5117im 17 years old and even i know Jordan is the GOAT
@JohnnyLightningV10
Жыл бұрын
Payton just mad from Last Dance 🤣🤣🤣
@Tuskegeeflyboi
Жыл бұрын
Payton and Kemp and detlift see but they don’t know about that sonics team
@rudyperez7680
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@bigron945
Жыл бұрын
GARY DID NOT END ANY DEBATES
@blakeharris58
Жыл бұрын
You really think so? Of all the players that could/should be, Payton is dead last.
@oye1996
Жыл бұрын
Real mad....he actually just lost all my respect
@yeloperil
5 ай бұрын
Bruh Gary Payton for all his wisdom has failed to mention that lebron is turning into a career killer if you don’t help him win!
@user-tx4hj6gb3v
Ай бұрын
MICHAEL JORDAN IS THE GOAT 🐐 ❤❤❤❤❤
@doncorleone7940
Жыл бұрын
Lebron trades his team mates like a manager. He's a team mate killer indeed 😂
@Graeberwave
Жыл бұрын
Bro, exactly. The Rockets blew them out by 40 in December. The next day Bron goes to town trading away Isaiah Thomas, D. Rose, and Jefferson! Ridiculous.
@ROBERTWARDLAX
Жыл бұрын
It’s pretty easy to tell which one is better if you look at there stats for the last 15 years that should tell it all😂😂
@Graeberwave
Жыл бұрын
@@ROBERTWARDLAX statsexual
@Graeberwave
Жыл бұрын
@@ROBERTWARDLAX Lebronisha’s mom got f*cked up Delonte West. Take that for data.
@coach_zachw
Жыл бұрын
Mike only went to 6 finals compared to Kobe Lebron & magic.. LEBRON THE GOAT 🐐 AND NOW ITS NOT EVEN A CLOSE DEBATE ANYMORE..Mike’s era were just too unathletic
@themainmanphi1246
11 ай бұрын
Imagine hearing someone say that you're just getting started on being a killer like MJ while you're in year 20 of your career. That means a lot.
@BlindfoldSniper
6 ай бұрын
And now I can't get the thought out my head of Ol' LeBruh on the front porch yelling "Maw, git the gun!"
@LSKing-ly4co
20 күн бұрын
MJ better 🐐🐐🐐 👇
@c1979h
28 күн бұрын
Pre 2000’s players got “They Not Like Us” on repeat.
@Sean-gq6vj
Жыл бұрын
Payton was a lot more adamant about this until Mike laughed at him in the last dance 😂
@df6148
Жыл бұрын
Jordan has elite stealing skills too. People forget what kind of defender he was 🔒.
@thatmadlad5381
8 ай бұрын
That man has 9 All NBA defensive selections (I think all are first team too) and a freakin DPOY
@sliferxxxx
8 ай бұрын
9 1st team all defensive while simultaneously leading the league in scoring. Lebron more versatile my behind.
@coach_zachw
8 ай бұрын
Defending unathletic players who were way shorter too isn’t lockdown 😂
@df6148
8 ай бұрын
@@coach_zachw By the time I’m done educating you on Jordan you’d be walking out of this conversation Enlightened with a New Appreciation for the man. But I don’t even think you deserve that much at this point. 😂
@user-gd6sl7yl7u
8 ай бұрын
@@df6148he a bronsexual
@justicesamuelu2400
2 ай бұрын
Beat the nuggets one time the entire 2024 season 😂😂😂😂 he sure becoming a killer alright
@sportsfantastic361
3 ай бұрын
People act like Jordan hit every shot he ever made lol
@CanYouRepeatTheQuestion
Жыл бұрын
20 years later, he is becoming a killer..lol Yeah, I don’t think it works that way.
@robertmason7553
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Joe Biden.
@dirtyface-capone7622
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a ridiculous take by Gary Payton.
@rdogletree4543
Жыл бұрын
If this was year 5 I would take his word for it but I'm year 20 nah.
@hiruyabebaw7140
Жыл бұрын
20 years of longevity
@pwilson2345
Жыл бұрын
RIGHT‼️This shit is hilarious😂😂😂
@jobeytodd8015
Жыл бұрын
You can't turn into something you aren't. MJ 🐐
@IheartLeDaddy
Жыл бұрын
Nope
@southerncoastproductions7587
Жыл бұрын
@@IheartLeDaddy Yup. Get yo lil ass outta here.
@IheartLeDaddy
Жыл бұрын
@@southerncoastproductions7587 you make toy trains stfu
@southerncoastproductions7587
Жыл бұрын
@@IheartLeDaddy What that gotta do with anything? It still doing better then your content by far. Second of all. Watch yo tone lil guy. I'm better then you. Talentless puppet.
@IheartLeDaddy
Жыл бұрын
@@southerncoastproductions7587 very childish hobby also yo ass ain’t telling no one to watch their tone I know for a fact you living in some comfy ass suburbs somewhere mf
@AustinFreeman-RTR
Ай бұрын
Lebron will never be MJ. Hell, he ain’t even on Kobe’s level.
@drpepper8568
5 ай бұрын
He’s turning into a senior citizen with a losing record in the finals
@TSmitty-ec7ll
8 ай бұрын
Dude said a bunch of nothing
@gregbaxter6162
5 ай бұрын
Agreed, not a bad take but not anything different than what everyone already knows
@HarkoretoDaBone-nf7ff
5 ай бұрын
i swear he said the debate ended.. all of us need to stop talking about it now.
@Crey-yk5yy
5 ай бұрын
Jordan was a CHOKER that's why got his 1st ring at 28 or 29yo.
@anthonyd8997
Жыл бұрын
Jordan plays the killer and Leflop plays the victim 😂👌🏽
@kernregis2342
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
@manfordedens6805
Жыл бұрын
Wilt who oh the guy who dominated against no bodies people who just learned they can dribble and pass at the same time stop it wilt ain't shit and he didn't win shit he was a horrible teammate
@Elias-pt6rv
11 ай бұрын
can't make one shot kido 💀
@thatmadlad5381
8 ай бұрын
bro 💀💀💀
@faitheater8490
5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@BiffsCoffee27272
2 ай бұрын
I think LeBron has proven over and over that he isn't that killer.
@gonzielovesspanish8989
2 ай бұрын
It's all BS calling NBA players killers, that's just weak @ss media guys (and you) calling them that. The toughest guys were not the best basketball players. For ex., Keyon Martin, Ron Artest, Ben & Rasheed Wallace, Latrell Sprewell, Vernon Maxwell, Rick Mahorn, The Karate Guy James Smith or something, at least 2 Boxers Isaiah (young guy) and West, etc. All these guys would destroy both MJ & LeBron on the streets, but nobody really remembers them for their BB skills.
@BiffsCoffee27272
2 ай бұрын
@gonzielovesspanish8989 yea, I don't think the term in reference to sports would mean tough or good at fighting, but would refer to not shrinking from the moment when the game is on the line. But I see your point. It's a stupid term to call an NBA player.
@godzillaepic
2 ай бұрын
Lebron is slowly turning into flop king😂
@SowerOfMustardSeed
Жыл бұрын
The “killer” just got killed 0-4. That’s how great he is.
@ZidaneSteiner
Жыл бұрын
How many times did Jordan make it to the finals with the Wizards?
@chasedownblocks1736
Жыл бұрын
@@ZidaneSteiner How many times did Lebron get swept in the playoffs? MJ had no reason to come back after his second retirement other than missing the game. If an old MJ had a super team like Wade and Bosh, he would have made it to the finals too.
@II2306.
Жыл бұрын
@@chasedownblocks1736mj was not that good on the wizards and you know that
@arealone7863
Жыл бұрын
@@II2306. bro stop you showing you a child ...MJ was in the mvp conversation in Washington and he had them in the playoffs b4 getting hurt in that 1st year and he didn't trade half his team to try to get a bunch of stars to carry him
@arealone7863
Жыл бұрын
@@ZidaneSteiner how many players did Jordan trade for all stars or top players in those 2 years 🤣🤣 man stop
@jeremyrafuse5330
6 ай бұрын
LeBron isn't turning into a killer 😂
@withoutprejudice-ht1sg
7 күн бұрын
20 years in you wanna go mamba mode? Make me a believer.
@dereksanchez7094
2 ай бұрын
MJ is by far the GOAT
@adi_2
Жыл бұрын
Hes turning in to a killer.... Lakers currently under 500.
@CAcutie1978
Жыл бұрын
😂
@Geojr815
Жыл бұрын
Lebron is 100 years old cut him some slack
@eldermendez5831
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@maximillianbruglione6725
Жыл бұрын
Speak on it. Speak on it.
@zackneskov2006
Жыл бұрын
yet hes averaging 30 8 and 7 what else do you expect him to do LOLOL. another broke ass boy that hates his life
@matthewruda596
Жыл бұрын
Stephen A Smith has the best. Everybody respects LeBron, everybody feared Jordan
@BPrice-tn8hz
Жыл бұрын
I’d even argue that not everyone even respects Lebron.
@timraymond7948
Жыл бұрын
Nobody feared mj 🤣🤣🤣
@dyayo79
Жыл бұрын
@@timraymond7948 they all did
@timraymond7948
Жыл бұрын
@@dyayo79 not on athlete feared jordan.. notna single one
@dyayo79
Жыл бұрын
@@timraymond7948 go watch some interviews
@billhorstkamp98
Ай бұрын
I think Gary Payton is right
@Pepsolman
5 ай бұрын
Lol. Lebron killed the debate years ago when he got swept in his first finals appearance. That’s the kind of killer he is.
@justiceknights5827
11 ай бұрын
Took 20 years to start turning into a “killer” and 38yo💀💀
@PHXNKVHXLIC
9 ай бұрын
LeBron James has more playoff buzzer beaters than anyone else in history. While Jordan has more losses than wins without Scottie Pippen and the greatest coach ever helping him lol
@thatmadlad5381
8 ай бұрын
@@PHXNKVHXLICYou just talked about 3 things that help LeBron win when theres a ton of other factors to be included. Pathetic.
@resinfingers3896
7 ай бұрын
@@PHXNKVHXLIC Lmao, you talking about scottie pippen only...how many all stars had Lebron balled with...how many chips he got?😂😂😂
@PHXNKVHXLIC
7 ай бұрын
@@resinfingers3896 if MJ played in todays game, I’m sure he would want to play with good players too lol. And championships are accomplished by a team, this ain’t tennis bro
@bernardfields368
6 ай бұрын
He is an old as serial killer then...smh.
@tyreebond9155
Жыл бұрын
Bron joined teams to chase rings while Jordan stayed with 1 team and Won 6 championships plus hit the game-winning shot for his college championship as a freshman!
@schmittiTV
Жыл бұрын
There is no different if join teams or use your influence to push your team to make trades and signings for players. If mj didn't have such a good influence over his team and basically orders the front office to make those trades mj would have left
@nunyabizwacks6711
Жыл бұрын
and lets not act like that Bulls team wasnt a super-team in those times too because they absolutely were
@bradtdarius
Жыл бұрын
How many titles did MJ win before Phil Jackson came along , and put in the Triangle Offense ? Zero. Finals trips ? Zero. MJ is the best player I've ever seen, but not necessarily the so-called G.O.A.T. Folks generally liked/loved James until he went to Miami...dashing and shattering THEIR expectations of how his career should go. A bigger, stronger player who should play like Jordan. As if his NBA career began in 2010. He followed his own path, and bet on himself. Other than Kobe, no all-time great tried to be the second coming of anyone before them. MJ was more of a " do your part so I can win the game" player, than James, who has been more concerned about bringing a team along, making teammates contribute significantly, to make the team more competitive, Teammates, to James, were, just that...teammates. Jordan's teammates, Scottie Pippen included, were his "supporting cast". Coaching matters, too. All of Jordan's title teams were coached by 2 HoF coaches. James never had that. And, James did more with "slumbum" teams that MJ did. Jordan's first 7 years are very similar to James' 2 Cavalier stints. Until Jordan learned to trust and rely on his teammates, he wasn't getting out of the Eastern Conference Finals. James had the underwhelming Cavs in the Finals after his 5th season. He got more out of less than MJ did. Jordan was a great scorer...guaranteed buckets regardless of defensive pressure..., and a dominant defensive player who had to learn to trust his teammates. James was, and is ,more interested , and better at, empowering his teammates, and had to learn when to be more selfish. He was taught to include teammates when competing. Jordan had to learn, and, be reminded, to do that. It's how you like to see how the game is played. If I wanted to let a guy to do heroics to win, and be content having people look at me as riding his coattails, Jordan's that guy. If I want to win, and feel like I actually helped my team win, I'd pick James. He didn't win as much as MJ, but would be more satisfying to work with;he spread the wealth so that everybody felt they actually did some work in a game.
@hitek9too255
Жыл бұрын
LeBron became a free agent, joined teams and won championships and won Finals MVP on each one. Jordan joined his hand picked Wizards and did nothing.
@tyreebond9155
Жыл бұрын
@@hitek9too255 you're comparing Jordan at age 40 on the wizards, you lost the argument just by bypassing all of his Chicago bulls accomplishments most great players want to play against the competition not join them to Chase rings but LeBron was different!
@rafaelsanchez5170
5 ай бұрын
Well that clock is tickin, them gen z are waiting 😂
@italiswede1
4 ай бұрын
Lebron isn't even a top 20 all time player. He didn't go to college like everyone before him. That's 4 extra years in his prime. He has choked in big moments so many times that I lost count. He forces every team he played for to get rid of everyone he doesn't like. He plays dirty by holding jerseys and flopping. I can't stand the guy.
@plzstopthisplz1309
4 ай бұрын
This has to be the worst take I’ve ever seen on the internet. 20 players greater than Lebron???.
@JowanaBueser
Жыл бұрын
We need to follow-up on the "Lebron is turning into a killer" take from Payton 😂
@miguelramirez8324
5 ай бұрын
20 season and he's just getting there...lol the guy inbounds the ball at the end of games so he doesn't have to shoot free throws 😂😂😂
@rafaelornelas2085
2 ай бұрын
Gary Payton has always been salty just like Isaiah Thomas !! Both are haters of Jordan !! This is a joke 🤣🤣 LeBron is a princess , floppy fake
@KASLtja
Жыл бұрын
TURNING……..TURNING INTO A KILLER!? MJ was a killer his entire career bruh.
@rasepollz5291
Жыл бұрын
THANK U🤣💯💯like COMON why r we even still debating the boy lebron didn’t even reach his 5th ring let alone makin it to his 6th
@user-mm8ur9el9n
Жыл бұрын
That’s it man
@bozokreso5555
Жыл бұрын
@@rasepollz5291 are we really dissing lebron? A man who has been averaing like 25 points for 20 fucking years? Eyo what the fuck?
@popcornsoup5444
Жыл бұрын
@@rasepollz5291Rings dont decide everything if that was true you would be swallowing bill russells tip right now.
@kingdavid1828
Жыл бұрын
@@popcornsoup5444 u right but don’t bring up bill and his easy ass era😂 not even 30 teams. But rings matter for lebron cuz look how many times he’s lost, and mj was 6-0 with 6fmvp most all time
@Niuk-lg3pc
Жыл бұрын
Yep, Gary really "ended the debate" there with the most diplomatic, inconclusive answer possible👍🤦🏻♂️
@frogthug5927
Жыл бұрын
how is it inconclusive when it’s true jordan was able to get more in his career but lebron is a better player accomplishments and skill are different
@tommydashed4205
10 ай бұрын
@@frogthug5927 What exactly is Lebron more skilled at? Passing more does not equal being a better passer. When you're the biggest scoring threat on your team, you shouldn't be giving the clutch shots up to someone else. But he does it because he's not a good shooter. So even if we give passing to Lebron, MJ was an unquestionably better shooter. Similar 3 pt% but Lebron faces wide open 3s all day from people sagging underneath because they'll take a wide open 35% chance over a nearly guaranteed slash to the basket if they don't. MJ was making his with a hand in his face and hand checking.
@AhmadAli-iq4oh
9 ай бұрын
@@tommydashed4205 scoring, defense, shooting, he's more fit...
@emmanuel9574
8 ай бұрын
6 RINGS POOR QUALITIES! COMPETED AGAINST WEAKLINGS WHILE LEBRON DEFEATED THE STRONGEST TEAMS IN THE HISTORY! OKC Durant,westbrook,ibaka,harden SPURS Duncan kawhi parker ginobili GSW Curry thompson iguodala green HEAT Butler adebayo herro iguodala robinson (An Equal game for everyone) MJ's finals opponents are laughable 🤣🤣🤣
@user-gd6sl7yl7u
8 ай бұрын
@@emmanuel9574where's LeBrons double 3peat? And they call fouls out the ass now bro everyone in today's league are sweet just like shaq said and Jordan is more clutch than LeBron if LeBron and Jordan played at the same time LeBron would be on Jordans dunk real a straight poster he did more in a less amount of time than LeBron bc he was better than everyone else #stopthebronsexuals
@ravindutyphoons2425
Ай бұрын
That didn’t end the debate. He played both sides 😂😂
@wenonaman6042
3 ай бұрын
20 years and i still havent seen that. Lol
@Viper83
Жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting to see that killer instinct Payton is talking about 🤣🤣🤣
@jgc792infinitee6
Жыл бұрын
Well you gon be waiting forever
@BPrice-tn8hz
Жыл бұрын
He kills which ever team he is on. We’ve been watching it for years.
@Viper83
Жыл бұрын
@user-dk9wf1pn5z LBJ is great, no doubt about that. But he sucks during clutch moments of the game, especially at the free throw line. we've seen that in every team he's been on
@rdogletree4543
Жыл бұрын
@@Viper83Yeah he's definitely not a great clutch free throw shooter.
@qdontae6
Жыл бұрын
Killers don’t cry over missed calls
@yerpyaboy
Жыл бұрын
LeBron's becoming a killer while not going to the playoffs
@vincepreston9304
Жыл бұрын
Exactly WTF 😕💯👍
@dyayo79
Жыл бұрын
Exactly . What a joke
@D__634
Жыл бұрын
Facts!!!
@carrollreggie66
Жыл бұрын
That has to be a team effort as you can see MJ went nowhere without Scotty Pippin and the rest of the team they put around him
@yerpyaboy
Жыл бұрын
@@carrollreggie66 Scottie pippen never averaged 20 points... Dwyane Wade's the third best shooting guard ever ... Please shut up.. You're just spreading stupidity in the universe
@kellykell8439
2 ай бұрын
If there is an NBA GOAT debate right now it's really only between 3 players who are Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, and Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Even though Bron is top 10, he's not in the top 3 NBA players of all time right now.
@bobinchainz
5 ай бұрын
Lebron ain’t MJ. Time to start looking at new younger players and hype them up to that goat status
@ernestholloway9436
Жыл бұрын
No LJ no killer. MJ wanted your heart.
@Will23081
Жыл бұрын
Your like 12 repeating shit you’ve heard on the internet. I’m 100% sure you’ve never watched a full game from MJ
@nubclub2000
Жыл бұрын
For real. LeBron ain't no fucking killer 😂
@kylinmooney167
Жыл бұрын
@@nubclub2000 who did Mj kill before Scottie? At least Bron made it places and finals with no star help jordan has a losing record without Scottie
@calvinhaskett8712
Жыл бұрын
It's no Debate Gary ..MJ is the G.O.A.T.
@jonny_5750
Жыл бұрын
Cap😊
@joaomattos2422
Жыл бұрын
MJ is the GOAT
@coach_zachw
Жыл бұрын
Mike only went to 6 finals compared to Kobe Lebron & magic.. LEBRON THE GOAT 🐐 AND NOW ITS NOT EVEN A CLOSE DEBATE ANYMORE..Mike’s era were just too unathletic
@calvinhaskett8712
Жыл бұрын
you've lost your mind...@ University of
@jovonbritt
Жыл бұрын
I know yall think jordan the goat and all but it is a debate atleast LeBron number 2# and it's over
@maricuchisdelafuente
4 ай бұрын
Lebron is the best number one pick in nba history next to Kareem
@99potoy
Ай бұрын
LBJ killer? I died 😂😂😂
@Jigganaut80
Жыл бұрын
No one I mean NO ONE has ever been scared to play Lebron
@AFO_AnalyRics
Жыл бұрын
Hilariousness.
@deezylambiv1021
Жыл бұрын
Ask the raptors lol
@bacn_
Жыл бұрын
They have though?
@Jigganaut80
Жыл бұрын
@@bacn_ who?
@IheartLeDaddy
Жыл бұрын
@@Jigganaut80 raptors
@philliphamilton4360
Жыл бұрын
Turning into a killer vs a certified killer speaks for itself.
@thatboymike1732
10 ай бұрын
“Killer” has nothing to do w talent
@antioneoda1000
9 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯.. Jordan didn't need to turn into a killer. He established very early in his career that he was a killer in the game against the Celtics. Even tho he lost, there was no denying that.
@antioneoda1000
9 ай бұрын
@thatboymike1732 You are correct, that's why he said LeBron is the better all around player. But there's an old lesson that maybe you've never learned. You can out work talent. Talent only takes you so far. Mentality takes you to the next level. Having a killer instinct when you're needed the most and delivering every time is more valuable than talent. This is why Jordan and Kobe is revered. Ask yourself this question. You own a business and you have two salesman. One is more talented than the other but the other is more of a go getter who also has talent. Which one do you hire? The one with more talent or the one with more productivity?
@delscott958
Ай бұрын
That was a diplomatic statement by Gary. 😂
@richardjeffersonnarda3616
Ай бұрын
He's actually turning into d opposite direction 😅😅😅
@sgtstudda7873
Жыл бұрын
“Turning into that killer” the man can’t even win games with a stacked team 💀
@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
Жыл бұрын
Lebron does has a Killer mindset Just not like Kobe an Mike every animal kills different. You don’t go to 10 straight finals an not be a killer or get over 38,000 points
@sgtstudda7873
Жыл бұрын
@@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire he’s not a killer.
@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
Жыл бұрын
@@sgtstudda7873 How Just explain an you saying he have a stack but came name all the hall of famers he played with cause the only comes to my mind that was inducted officially was Chris Bosh.
@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
Жыл бұрын
@@sgtstudda7873 Every team Lebron been on he has always been the best player an no player that played with Lebron except D wade had success with Winning a Championship an even after Lebron so stack team where he still had to play at a high level.
@sgtstudda7873
Жыл бұрын
@@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire he’s not a killer. Only MJ and Kobe have had that killer instinct. LaBitch is the king of flopping.
@---kr3zg
Жыл бұрын
He's not turning into a killer he's about to retire in a couple years
@Tuskegeeflyboi
Жыл бұрын
Yep did I here you say stall the CAP 😂
@MaartenTersteege
5 ай бұрын
Mj was not asked to pass the ball, he was was asked to score, and that is exactly what MJ did.
@robertalcala899
4 ай бұрын
Except when he passed it to Steve Kerr cause Michel didn’t feel right about the shot
@carlgreenwood8827
Ай бұрын
😂LeFlop and killer in the same sentence 😂😂
@dagobertotrevino1716
Жыл бұрын
He’s just mad because Jordon said, “ I had no problem with the glove.”
@AmbassadorAusar
Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what this is about!!! Gary knows better than this.
@merloncox4408
Жыл бұрын
DAGoberto Trevino: Michael most definitely did have problems with the "Glove" Jordan was the NBA's poster child, and was able to get away with offensive fouls consistently, especially pushing off. Jordan was also one of the most selfish with the ball for many years. Scottie Pippen was spot on about his teammate. Didn't win a thing until Pippen showed up.
@greezythumb
Жыл бұрын
BINGO!! Him and Zeke are so damn salty.
@greezythumb
Жыл бұрын
@@merloncox4408 It is a team sport, right? So how about we just say there is no greatest basketball player of all time since no one did it by themselves? That includes LeBron who ran around the league chasing Scottie Pippens then calls himself the goat. Jordan didn't run from team to team, calling other players to come join him for a championship run then call himself the greatest. Pippens didn't win a damn thing without Jordan either. But who needed who more? Pippen could have been replaced just like Horace Grant, Cartwright, BJ Armstrong, Paxson , were all replaced. It's ridiculous to think he couldn't be. But Pippen and the Bulls aren't replacing Jordan.
@greezythumb
Жыл бұрын
@@merloncox4408 Back then all the players got away with murder. Just look at how Pistons and Celtics were allowed to knock players around. Refs weren't so quick to call back then as they are now. And no, he didn't have any trouble sending Seattle back home 4-2. Jordan hit 30+ points in two games. Payton hit over 20 points once in the series. I like Gary Payton but he clearly is overrating himself.
@jflack6
Жыл бұрын
Mike all day
@Bubert1
4 ай бұрын
Turning into the killer in year 20 lmaooo
@starn9
Ай бұрын
quitting the league makes you more of a killer than putting in 20 years of pain, making it to the finals 8+yrs in a row winning 4 chips and coming back from 3-0 in the finals against the best dynasty of our times??
@adamjiminez9605
Жыл бұрын
Mike entered the league as a killer
@markoconnor4110
Жыл бұрын
He didn't start till he started weight training to beat the pistons
@henrymoore748
Жыл бұрын
@Mark O'connor look at rookie mike tapes he was a killer for sure. He become a unstoppable killer when he hut the weights tho.
@aaryasharma4940
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@@markoconnor4110 lol MJ was already averaging like 50 against Larry's Celtics in year 3 or 4 meanwhile Lebron had such an easy East for like 60% of his career
@caliwavy8636
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@@markoconnor4110 the weight turned him in the goat ..
@adamjiminez9605
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@@markoconnor4110 Pistons is my team, I seen the entire feud. We’re talking about killer mentality on the court, not weight lifting.
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