Wow I failed math class lmfao. 140m monthly users opening discord once a day = 4.2b page views per month (140m * 30) = $1,507,800 a year. I need some sleep I think lol. Also a couple more reasons why people don't like the font. - Inconsistent spacing - Hard to read if dyslexic
@tanmay8952
Жыл бұрын
nice
@blikthepro972
Жыл бұрын
nobody in their right mind would pay a million a year for a font, it couldnt make more sense for them to change it honestly
@redvortex_p
Жыл бұрын
also because its SOO FRICKING THINNNN
@Fila998
Жыл бұрын
Pls unban me from ur discord server i have a family and 3 kids
@rinat69
Жыл бұрын
skill issue
@j100j
Жыл бұрын
Would've been nice if discord had let you import your own fonts and just switched to an open source one.
@v01d_r34l1ty
Жыл бұрын
Sites like ProtonMail used to allow custom themes in their entirety. Used to be a really common feature of websites 5-10 years ago. However, this feature has been removed from sites since. I think the primary part of it is a Cyber Security concern and another part is a development concern and the last part is a licensing concern. When it comes to Discord, would it make more sense to have a "1 size fits all" or let users customize and have to lend support when they need help customizing, documenting everything, worrying about scams and hacks, etc.? Especially being a multi-national corporation with each country having various different consumer protection laws and copyright and licensing laws, it's probably just more effort than they'd like, which is why they're not as worried about banning BetterDiscord users like they are with self-bot users; one is just customizing (fulfilling a feature they can't or won't implement) while the other is using the service in a way that's against its intended usage.
@theairaccumulator7144
Жыл бұрын
@@v01d_r34l1ty If it's a font file the user imports from their computer is that any different from using a font in any other program? They don't have to license it since it isn't shipped with their product.
@v01d_r34l1ty
Жыл бұрын
@@theairaccumulator7144 Don’t forget Discord is mostly web based. So while Electron may have this capability, if you want to save any user settings across devices, or port it anywhere else other than Electron, you would have to completely rewrite the same functionality. Browsers can render any system font so long as it’s properly installed, but good luck getting a list of fonts from the device. No super easy ways of seeing whether the font exists or not before trying to import it when it comes to CSS. This is from a design perspective, don’t know the explicit problems that would arise, these are only the implicit ones.
@KCrouch-t2o
Жыл бұрын
@@v01d_r34l1ty just put a cute frontend on css injection or something
@alex15095
Жыл бұрын
@@v01d_r34l1ty They could just import the fonts from Google Fonts or something, as do many webapps that let the user pick fonts.
@DanielMemeSmith
Жыл бұрын
It makes more sense to make a font a one-time fee than a continuous one. But hey, Discord could have picked a free/one-time fee font to be safe from the start instead of having to first make us acquainted with the old font and then changing it out of nowhere.
@heetman12
Жыл бұрын
dont give them ideas
@Dyanosis
Жыл бұрын
How does making a font a "one-time fee" make more sense? I'd love to hear that logic. Let's hear why it's a bad idea for business - people are going to see your font A LOT. Especially if, like the website suggests, you get a lot of traffic to your site/place of business. The more people that see your font, the more people that might want to use/adopt/support your font. It's really no different than saying "I think subscriptions to Twitch should be a one-time, never pay again so I can watch all the vods and never see ads, fee". It just doesn't make sense from a business point of view. Just because you CAN use something, doesn't mean they want you to continue to being able to use it. Plus, your idea is more like "why didn't they just put a creative license on it" (which I'm sure they probably have in addition to the price). Your idea, from a User standpoint, is great. Your idea, from a Business standpoint, sucks.
@pollo7889
Жыл бұрын
@@Dyanosis twitch example makes no sense. how subscriptions would be one-time payment?
@gonzalolog
Жыл бұрын
@@pollo7889 fonts are subscription based too...
@DanielMemeSmith
Жыл бұрын
@@Dyanosis I'm just saying that putting a monthly price tag on a font sounds ridiculous to me. I didn't mean to shame the business for its money-making decisions. Buying fonts is the same as buying art, since both are visual pieces. Can you imagine paying for a painting in your house every month?
@Tomi.762
Жыл бұрын
Im mostly indifferent to the font change, however the font has these annoying size jumps for certain letters that make it harder to read.
@ENZO542_
Жыл бұрын
I didn't even noticed it lol
@SwitchyWitch_
Жыл бұрын
most visible in words like Violet it's as if someone's doing the MoCKinG tYpiNG and it's just, why
@Beautiful_Twisted_Fantasy
Жыл бұрын
Pfp moment
@Jamesthe1
Жыл бұрын
The lowercase g is even misaligned
@Kuwaiifu
Жыл бұрын
@@ENZO542_ BRO SAME- like i cant notice the difference- everyone kept talking abt it that i just... couldn't comprehend wtf was going on like the difference in the beginning video... i cant find any difference-
@alex15095
Жыл бұрын
They should really just allow setting any system font. There's no reason not to have this feature. It's also a pretty critical accessibility feature considering certain fonts work better than others for some people with dyslexia.
@noxxyy
Жыл бұрын
if they ever do that they'll end up trying to make it a nitro thing i swear
@njbrx
Жыл бұрын
@@noxxyy definitely
@fallendawn2846
Жыл бұрын
the reason better discord is against discord TOS is just so that in the event that there's a harmful plugin or theme someone installs, discord won't be considered accountable and they'll be able to say "well we told you not to use it but you did it anyways"
@HyperrealisticLuigi
Жыл бұрын
they could easily just make it not against tos but state they dont cover it
@fallendawn2846
Жыл бұрын
@@HyperrealisticLuigi they could but this is the more reliable way a discord dev has stated they won't ban people for it, it's just that this also covers any and all external clients, that way they don't have to add a whole clause about 'these specific ones are allowed' and have to update it when someone wants to use a new one
@LiEnby
Жыл бұрын
um, css file cant run code **
@LiEnby
Жыл бұрын
@xuellont i dont really think theres anything better discord does that u couldnt get by just opening ctrl + shift + i and pasting code in there lol
@fallendawn2846
Жыл бұрын
@@LiEnby people are creative
@JohnnyHikesSW
Жыл бұрын
I just want the option to use Helvetica tbh, it wouldn’t cost them anything and Helvetica is one of the most readable fonts thanks to the large letters (relative to font size, Helvetica has less wasted space compared to “custom” fonts)
@diasstebanak
Жыл бұрын
Same. Helvetica is also very stylish
@sharanoth
Жыл бұрын
HELVETICA STANDURRR
@APotatoCommuter
Жыл бұрын
@@sharanoth IS THAT REFERENCING WHAT I THINK IT'S REFERENCING
@cqgod
Жыл бұрын
I'd disagree it's great on apple and stuff for example I wouldn't mind if google and youutube also use it but discord is mainly a dark themed website and i can't explain it because english my second language but i just like the old font :)
@diasstebanak
Жыл бұрын
@@cqgod helvetica doesn't change the alphabet and it looks identical to roboto and arial
@dominic.h.3363
Жыл бұрын
The new font is GIVING me the effect of astigmatism! I haven't had a single issue with ClearType in 20+ years though. All my fonts are buttery smooth, and the majority of my GUI is scaled back to ~80%, because I can read 9pt typefaces just fine where 12 is the norm on a screen with abysmal pixel density no less (34" 2560x1080). So if I am dissatisfied with this font change... oh boy.
@frieriwa
Жыл бұрын
the way you type makes me want to reset my life
@SurmenianSoldier
Жыл бұрын
@@frieriwa it's fine wdym
@falloutnerdo
Жыл бұрын
@@frieriwa lmaoooo fr
@dominic.h.3363
Жыл бұрын
@@frieriwa It's called using proper English. So yea, do a reset and go back to school.
@Benzene.
Жыл бұрын
typical discord mod
@smolmuffin
Жыл бұрын
When Discord removed light theme for a day as a "joke" and took off the dark side bar option for it on mobile (forever) and took months to readd it for desktop I knew Discord did not truly care for accessibility. Now I will say they do try their best at times and there is better options now than in the past but stuff like this can be a massive accessibility issue for some. Give us an option for fonts don't throw changes at us without any way to tweak things naively.
@coouragee
Жыл бұрын
My issue with the new font is that I have text anti-aliasing disabled (for performance) and usually have zoom set 1 level out too. The old font worked pretty well with that, but the new one reacts awfully to it and is kinda just unreadable
@RST
Жыл бұрын
this exactly sounds like they didn't go through the process of "font hinting"
@sznio
Жыл бұрын
disabling font AA doesn't really improve performance much anymore. It's not 1999.
@coouragee
Жыл бұрын
@@sznio maybe not, but I still wanna squeeze as much performance out of my cheap set up
@coouragee
Жыл бұрын
@@joebidenofficialpotus it's a Windows setting universal to all displayed texts. Search for "Adjust the appearance" into your Windows search bar, deselect "Smooth the edges of screen fonts" and then Apply
@KrazyCouch2
Жыл бұрын
I prefer the new font for a couple of reasons but I do think it would be cool to be able to choose your own font nonetheless.
@Certurix
Жыл бұрын
still don't know why they didnt created a switch to choose between the old and the new font.
@LeonASDEVEL
Жыл бұрын
@@Certurix cause then theyd still have to pay to use that old font
@MJGTMKME123_Official
Жыл бұрын
Bro same
@AsdQwertySlashio
Жыл бұрын
seme
@bluzzard
Жыл бұрын
Customizable applications are great but it is not viable for big companies and in my and many other ux/ui designers opinions it is just unnecessary
@Liggliluff
Жыл бұрын
There's another benefit of the new font: more letters are supported People chat in more than just English. Whitney supports some extended Latin letters, but GG Sans supports many more extended Latin letters. I'm honestly surprised they did this, because in some areas they wear binders. They for example force the "MMM D, YYYY" format for all languages when it only makes sense for US English. So them even adding Á is surprising to me, but they even added Ħ which is used in Maltese. But they can't for some reason just fix the date issue.
@ncb0_
Жыл бұрын
whitney supported cyrillic and greek scripts which gg sans doesnt sadly 😭
@D0Samp
Жыл бұрын
Also they defined exactly one Japanese letter in their font which now looks off to native speakers, namely the one the /shrug command emits in ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@actuallyel8936
Жыл бұрын
imagine the shitstorm if discord made their own font WITHOUT extended letters though. it has an international community. they probably wanted to cover their backs
@Liggliluff
Жыл бұрын
@@ncb0_ That I completely forgot to check, that is terrible. Although I guess it's also good: system font for the whole script. But I guess I praised them too early, they have barely more letters added.
@Liggliluff
Жыл бұрын
@@actuallyel8936 As mentioned in my comment, in many parts of the UI, they force the US MDY format for all languages, where it makes no sense. They also force all languages to have a one/other plural system (even though that data is part of CLDR that they're using), and only allows for translations to be different if the English words are different, and requires the same translations for when English happens to use the same spelling in different contexts.
@Techsplosion
Жыл бұрын
gotta love the ‘cult plans’ folder that he casually dismisses xD
@Jintenzo
Жыл бұрын
The old one is slightly better i guess, but the difference is so small that i need to constantly switch between them to notice, i honestly thought it just hadn't rolled out to me yet.
@sergeantheavyass3471
Жыл бұрын
Same
@luucy025
Жыл бұрын
The new discord font could be used by eye doctors as a test for astigmatism lmao No one notices it but damn I don't notice it either...because I can't read it anymore
@dolliiefied
Жыл бұрын
@@luucy025 yea same 😭
@alvesvaren
Жыл бұрын
I'm on linux, idk if it just has better font rendering or something but I can't see anything wrong with the font. It looks a little different but I prefer it over the old font, a little bit cleaner and clearer
@suchys_tv
Жыл бұрын
@@atsizbalik I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
@vexvesper
Жыл бұрын
@@suchys_tv xD oh shut up lol -a linux user
@mafinalmessagechangedaworl7131
Жыл бұрын
@@atsizbalik na don’t worry he has linux
@azyaln
Жыл бұрын
@@atsizbalik Cleartype makes font look different on windows.
@OmegaRC59
Жыл бұрын
@@atsizbalik Windows' cleartype font rendering makes things look a lot different, and fonts kind of need to be expressly designed to use it otherwise they're gonna look like ass. Windows literally changes the text color at the edges to make it appear sharper which absolutely kills how this new font looks, so I'm not surprised that Linux, which doesn't do this, looks better
@dominikdoom
Жыл бұрын
I generally like the letter shapes of the new font and they are very clear on my WQHD monitor, I just feel like they are a little bit too thin. Something in-between the bold and normal font weight with marginally more letter spacing for readability would work better imo.
@thegammakat
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the thinness and tightly packed letters (aka the kerning) are mostly what make it hard to read.
@Arcangel0723
Жыл бұрын
@@thegammakat thinness is also called "weight". So kerning and weight!
@akiyamaakeo
Жыл бұрын
Custom fonts would be nice. I like the new font because it just looks appealing to me, But some people might not like it, So instead discord can make a couple different fonts and allow players to choose from them, And also allow users to insert their own.
@JACKHARRINGTON
Жыл бұрын
i'd use comic sans
@PleomaxProductions
Жыл бұрын
Yeah its gonna be locked behind nitro tho because discord
@akiyamaakeo
Жыл бұрын
@@PleomaxProductions Of course.
@akiyamaakeo
Жыл бұрын
@@JACKHARRINGTON Honestly, Same.
@Splash滴
Жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, I love the new font. I think just having an option to switch between the two should've been added.
@Stridsvagn69420
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Discord could've used the system's native font (it's very, very easy to implement, especially with Electron basically just being Chrome and thus Discord being a web app) or go with a royalty free one that doesn't suck. I mean, that's literally what I do. Either get the users preferred font or go with a unified but royalty-free one.
@redvortex_p
Жыл бұрын
Actually yeah cause `system-font` is like a 'variable' so technically they wouldnt be actually using any font because the OS will set it to whatever the os font is
@Liggliluff
Жыл бұрын
Roboto for Android and Segue for Windows, I like that. Those fonts look good and are often the default in a lot of software already.
@lootria
Жыл бұрын
2:45 correction, if youre on mobile you get aliucord or enmity and make a custom theme which only changes the font, and youre good to go i downloaded betterdiscord for this yesterday and i KNEW i could have it changed back, i was just waiting for this video to drop lmao
@ryph0bic
Жыл бұрын
I actually like the look of the font, especially since I and l are distinguishable now, but as you mentioned it is harder to read for people who have eye-related ailments. I am very light sensitive and prone to headaches, and the new font has caused me to have more migraines now within just a few days compared to the previous few weeks (since it is more spaced out and i keep my font size large it's a lot brighter than before) tl;dr the font is cute and has a couple pros but hurts my eyes way more than the previous font
@MattJames2211
Жыл бұрын
Seeing it change when you turned the theme on made me realise that they aren't actually that different
@sergeantheavyass3471
Жыл бұрын
I can hardly even see any difference
@RaydonRn
Жыл бұрын
@@sergeantheavyass3471 same everyone is just overreacting
@AShatteredDragonsSpirit
Жыл бұрын
@@RaydonRn Me and many others can literally barely read the new font, I'm unsure how that's "overreacting"? Maybe it's nothing to you, but even a slight font change can become an accessibility issue to others.
@RaydonRn
Жыл бұрын
@@AShatteredDragonsSpirit Yeah you are right, I tried zooming out and I can see how it can be an issue for others. I don't even know when they changed the font because I literally couldn't tell haha
@Liggliluff
Жыл бұрын
@@RaydonRn Because they have to pay for the old font
@CubyChrisAnimations
Жыл бұрын
Ah, I knew it! Also there's so many things that aren't aligned, it's incredible. Especially with the big W. The middle of it is lower than the sides, but it's not lowered to align with non-capitalized letters, it's just lowered some random amount. I really like that the small L's are actually L's and not just lines though.
@vibaj16
Жыл бұрын
Bruh I hate those lowercase L's, that's the first thing I noticed about the new font. Luckily, the font hasn't changed for me on desktop yet.
@minneelyyyy
Жыл бұрын
I notice the new font a lot more than most people probably do because I use discord a bit zoomed in. I just cannot stand reading super small text so I have discord zoomed in a few ticks. when its that zoomed in it really isnt that bad.
@TheOtherCiphbruh
Жыл бұрын
The best (but probably the only) reason for me to _like_ the new Discord font is because it actually supports Vietnamese-specific characters to the fullest. The old font used on my iOS client looks extremely horrifying in Vietnamese because it does not support Vietnamese and has to use Helvetica as a substitute. The same happens on Android if I remember correctly; I have to check on that. Though, here is a better idea for Discord: How about just improve the old font instead of just… replace it entirely? Discord just needs to add Latin Extended Addition characters, *but they didn’t!*
@ranpo_edogawa
Жыл бұрын
the sad trade off with the new font is that it doesn't support greek and cyrillic letters like the old one did sadly. i have no idea why they strove to make other languages more accessible to discord and didnt bother remaking letters that the old one supported as well.
@TheOtherCiphbruh
Жыл бұрын
@@ranpo_edogawa That's why I added my last point. Instead of improving the existing font, they decided to change it even though no-one asked for it. I'm completely fine with the new font, but regardless, that change was unnecessary and, as you pointed out, already caused uncalled-for problem.
@IAmCymepka
Жыл бұрын
Old Discord font is kinda classic - like Segoe UI on Windows or Choco Cooky on One UI. It would be a shame to lose them.
@firalia
Жыл бұрын
Nah, Discord changes their fonts all the time. The last one isn't classic, it's just one of many, and people hated on it when it came out as well (tho for aesthetic reasons, not accessibility)
@connorvexonian3093
Жыл бұрын
I noticed it the second it was installed because my server's channels were all goofed up. In my opinion, I am just so used to the old font that the new font was like a stab in the eyes, not hating, just would not rather force myself to get used to something that I can easily fix
@eternal1967
Жыл бұрын
As a discord server owner. I admit that old style was better than new one, it made so dull. Many of my followers are leaving even though my server is free to use with all the things that i added to my members.. Even I'm also loosing interest to be with discord because of it. Great video bro, i hope this video reach the Discord devs
@St4rg4zedd
Жыл бұрын
With a astigmatism, and partial dyslexia you are legendary for making this tutorial
@helloyanis
Жыл бұрын
To those of you using Canary, you can use BetterDiscord with a manual Install and there's a tutorial for that on their website
@firalia
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have astigmatism, and the font is so bad that I literally had to swap to light mode just to stop my eyes from straining because the weight in dark mode is so bad. I get what they were going for, and I don't completely hate the font itself, but it needed waaay more time in development. I cannot believe this passed QA. Honestly, they just need to let us use custom fonts already. I was using Replugged before Discord overhauled their code and it had to be remade, so I've been off modded Discord for a while waiting for that. However, this font change pushed me to go back to BetterDiscord and reinstall my old theme, even with all BD's bulkiness and crashes.
@stevoglitchyfishy2689
Жыл бұрын
As a dyslexic person this font is horrible for me, it’s so bad that I can’t spell words right as I’m typing my message out, I send stuff like “it s thwoing off my spelling” Thanks for showing that better discord trick!
@BuiHieuDong
Жыл бұрын
Me who didn't even realize about the fact that they changed the font: Sometimes my genius, it's just almost frightening!
@StarexPlode
Жыл бұрын
d
@FictionalArtist_
Жыл бұрын
shutyobishahzup!
@SomeRandomPiggo
Жыл бұрын
shut
@Someone72663
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, its really frightening to see you bring up some non-existant genius of yours...it almost reminds me of schizophrenia.
@sealy009
Жыл бұрын
never seen a smart person named dong
@SoMNoMW
Жыл бұрын
The only thing that's really glaring about the font for me is how it's ever so slightly thinner and the proportions are different
@user-cdf9fk2rqa
Жыл бұрын
the problem with this font is that it doesnt go well with other languages (like japanese and chinese for example) the alphabet and the numbers looks out of place also at one point only the character ツ looked different which they fixed it thankfully...
@gamejitzu
Жыл бұрын
Worked for me, thanks By the way, for anyone who might not have known, if there's no option to Save As "css", you can type ".css" at the end of the file name yourself (before hitting save). It'll automatically turn into a .css . I might be an idiot but I didn't know you could do that until now
@gamejitzu
Жыл бұрын
weird, it looks like Discord reverted my changes? The Better Discord tab in the settings is gone and the old font is back... It's back after redownloading, but that's strange... Hope it doesn't wipe again
@ImmaPhoenix
Жыл бұрын
tbf, I think the new font looks decent, it is definitely underrated and I'm not sure why people hate it, I never noticed it after the change till I actually looked at the integers and realized I had the new font not to mention most people with dyslexia I know can read the font a bit better
@epixerty
Жыл бұрын
i understand why they hate it and i dislike it too, but I'm not that pissed off to literally download something to change the font
@spykillergames8402
Жыл бұрын
yea i dont mind the new font
@dnielxxx
Жыл бұрын
they do localized our custom glyphs so that it wont be broken as the old font so i find it okay too.
@Julienraptor01
Жыл бұрын
For me this is an accessibility problem, i have reading problems and i just can't read discord anymore due to this...
@epixerty
Жыл бұрын
@@Julienraptor01 just press Ctrl + to make the text bigger, and Ctrl - to make it smaller
@Glazed_Donut7172
Жыл бұрын
I have an astigmatism and that first picture is literally so accurate- half the time I'm using the computer I'm squinting trying to read stuff properly ;-;
@Jamesthe1
Жыл бұрын
Now understanding the math behind this, they could have used other services entirely with free licenses. Google Fonts provides a vast array of royalty-free fonts. DaFont does this too. Font Squirrel is a trusted platform for free fonts. They could have done 5-10 minutes of research (in fact they probably did), and even settled on Roboto, a fairly simple and clean font with a wide array of characters supported. But we know how CEOs are with ideas.
@叵
Жыл бұрын
As a type designer, I also felt a little annoyed by the amount of contrast caused by the weight, metrics and ClearType rendering flags...
@Phantom-no4tr
Жыл бұрын
the amount of times this man had to install better discord is crazy
@ale_isanodd1
Жыл бұрын
as someone with astigmatism i can literally read the old discord font just fine
@gooblinzgoob
Жыл бұрын
I personally prefer the font, but it should be an option to change it to whatever font you want.
@NFSCsapat
Жыл бұрын
Latom a videoban a magyar zaszlos reactot, ti vagytok a legjobbak
@jinjindiaries
Жыл бұрын
I came on discord after a short break just to be 'welcomed' by the new font. I mean I only hate it because now I had to increase the font size to properly read the text. (I use glasses/spectacles on a regular basis) and with the new font I'm still (a little) struggling. It's good they created a new font but yea..😶
@mabs9503
Жыл бұрын
Not sure I'm ready to install a whole 3rd party Discord client but the ClearText calibration helped. Thanks.
@Joanyan
Жыл бұрын
if there are people that have a hard time reading normal fonts i recommend trying something like comic sans or similar, i use comic code rn but having a font where every letter is drawn independently making it easier to read
@PokeNebula
Жыл бұрын
agreed
@jan_Sanku
Жыл бұрын
thank you for actually warning viewers about better discord and ToS. sadly you're probably the only one who does that.
@reys44
Жыл бұрын
Thank you father i despised this font 🙏
@werdylp
Жыл бұрын
when discord changed font in 2021, I hated it, because it looked so cartoon-like and really different, but this change is so little that if they wouldn't tell me, I would probably not notice
@multigrandmarquis
Жыл бұрын
I didn't like the font at first, but it grew on me once I saw how it looked in all caps. Honestly, even though it sucks that it's not optional, it's much better than the forced color changes from a whole back. Very glad they added a way to revert that.
@owenknowles3796
Жыл бұрын
I have astigmatism, I didn't pay much attention to the font change and I was really confused as to why my eyes suddenly couldn't focus well on Discord
@Sam-zw2kp
Жыл бұрын
Why don't they just use a free font? It's not like it has some very unique look to it
@BlastoiseVeteran
Жыл бұрын
id suggest using openasar in place of betterdiscord, it's quite lightweight and still allows for theming. great video as always though, love your stuff.
@skellyboy0292
Жыл бұрын
at first i didn't notice because i use a theme that changes it, but when i disabled to see what it looks like i actually found myself surprised, it's a pretty decent looking font, reminds me of a remix of the classic old arial which i love and use for everything. i was ready to make some changes but they nailed it with this one tbh
@rowdy8814
Жыл бұрын
Hell nah
@RST
Жыл бұрын
I think the main issue is font weight as well as font hinting, because disabling ClearType and hard restarting discord doesn't fix anything other than the standard color fringing of ClearType.
@dyln2000
Жыл бұрын
I do actually like the font. It’s a better change than the logo redesign
@doomjunyu_
Жыл бұрын
same
@vadsxwred5539
Жыл бұрын
bait
@re57k
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I actually kind of like it too. Though I completely understand why some people prefer Whitney over gg sans. IMO discord should've used an open-source font instead of making a new one. Another option they could do is create manually hinted version so that the text remains legible at small sizes. Or they could also redesign it so that it more closely resembles Whitney / humanist sans-serif in general, since those types of fonts are well known for their legibility.
@Austinfdp
Жыл бұрын
@@vadsxwred5539 cry
@renanz69
Жыл бұрын
thats really good, i didn't liked gg sans, it's better to still be able to use whitney font
@Bcarr122391
Жыл бұрын
The change is so subtle, that I'm pretty sure nobody would have noticed the change if they didn't announce it... people only hate this font change because everyone else hates it. I don't remember the last time I saw a post on r/discord where people liked changes, and so many changes are posted there.
@nankinink
Жыл бұрын
nah, I opened discord and noticed right away after the update. never visited reddit. The font is kinda bad. Even though that this issue was me only, i guess not
@Trava715
Жыл бұрын
noticed it immediately, it's so bad that it triggers my fight or flight response. like, it's actually uncomfortable to read with astigmatism.
@flyingtentacle7631
Жыл бұрын
I've been wondering wtf happened to discord even though nobody else seemed to have noticed a font change. Turns out that this font change broke some themes (clearvision) and made them default to some totally wild, actually terrible serif font. Seeing the difference between the two Discord actually switched to looks so minor compared to what I was seeing. Regardless though, this method worked to fix my issue as well. In your existing better discord theme; You just have to add the two "--font" lines somewhere in the root curly brackets and then all the @ stuff after the curly bracket for root.
@Redhotsmasher
Жыл бұрын
So if they needed a font they can use for free, why reinvent the wheel instead of using some existing free option such as the fantastically readable Roboto?
@BlooHoots
Жыл бұрын
feels nice actually understanding the css code this time
@JrockProject1
Жыл бұрын
I don’t mind the new font, looks nice. But I get the desire to change it freely. Should be a simple toggle
@onlygoodperson
Жыл бұрын
But then again, they'll have to pay for it
@JrockProject1
Жыл бұрын
@@onlygoodperson a feature like that would take 2 minutes to implement
@onlygoodperson
Жыл бұрын
@@JrockProject1 did you watch the whole video? They have to pay around $50k a year to use the previous font because its owned by another company so adding a toggle would pretty much defeat the point of adding a new font.
@Legitti
Жыл бұрын
Already has themed Discord so didn't even know this was a thing.
@Despafrfr
Жыл бұрын
Roblox & Discord community have a thing in common - crying and collapsing whenever a change happens
@hutek4202
Жыл бұрын
But the font is ugly though it's pure ass 😭
@wrekt97
Жыл бұрын
This man downloaded better discord over a hundred times, bless his efforts
@arkfish
Жыл бұрын
I don't mind the new font. It's a lot more readable (the lowercase Ls can actually be differentiated from capital Is) and works well with my screen size
@CameronVarley
Жыл бұрын
"Worst case Ontario" just want to make sure I heard that right lol 😆
@ChariTT
Жыл бұрын
If you want the old font on Mobile, you can just use Bluecord. I love it
@danielisgamer
Жыл бұрын
Is that like an APK file or a mod?
@viktoriaborn3472
Жыл бұрын
Or Aliucord but im not sure there is a plugin for that
@ChariTT
Жыл бұрын
It is an apk and I think it is open source or something. I've never had problems with it and it has more options than the play store version
@TheChaoticWolf
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use bluecord. Apparently it steals login tokens.
@darkfir3.
Жыл бұрын
@@TheChaoticWolf ive been using it for 2 years now, i THINK its safe. If u really wanna be extra safe, just use 2fa
@SryFool
Жыл бұрын
as someone using better discord for 2 years, i can say its annoying that sometimes it just doesnt want to work and random crashed if u use plugins
@taykiraro2318
Жыл бұрын
looks basically the same
@jesternightlight
Жыл бұрын
I have dyslexia and THANK YOU SO MUCH for this video.
@Xiphonix
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion it looks good, It just fits the discord vibe. I don't know why people hate it. It's even easier for the eyes BUT I respect that others have a different point of view! And It's just a font it's not a big deal anyways (before you comment about the size or not being able to see it, both fonts have the same thickness..)
@Julienraptor01
Жыл бұрын
Bro i have reading problems and i just can't read discord anymore due to this... For me this is more than just a look problem it's an accessibility one
@striderwhiston9897
Жыл бұрын
It's much harder for the eyes, especially for people with astigmatism or dyslexia
@DolanTehDukkehYT
Жыл бұрын
If it was bolder it would be better
@static_not_here
Жыл бұрын
your really a drop in a sea bro, this new font is ass and i have to squint my eyes to see it
@yourdemiseishere
Жыл бұрын
It's just a lot cleaner, slim.
@ihavenoideadanny
Жыл бұрын
"how do i get the old font" "you need betterdiscord" "well shit"
@TheVoidMachineSystem
Жыл бұрын
I will mention, on mobile, only for Android, there is Bluecord. You can change the font to whatever fonts you put into its fonts folder.
@theairaccumulator7144
Жыл бұрын
Aliucord
@PainDoesStuffsWORLD
Жыл бұрын
🙏
@lambdaspecialist_source
Жыл бұрын
I was kinda weirded out when I saw that something was wrong with the font, definitely turning that off
@24kingofcards
Жыл бұрын
honestly this was a good change; the previous font had ambiguity with uppercase i and lowercase L (eg on youtube it's Il)
@Totally_Bonkers
Жыл бұрын
imagine some sort of font editor, where you could add custom images for each letter OR use preset fonts (perhaps having independent fonts for every single letter? So like, g could be gg sans and o could be comic sans and stuff like that)
@SweeperFilms
Жыл бұрын
i cant really notice the font
@simonw.1223
Жыл бұрын
Yeah just slight changes I think.
@Kumlejo
Жыл бұрын
3:09 “it’s not actual words” Latin: am I a joke to you?
@ロマンス音楽
Жыл бұрын
it really wasnt that serious of a change
@flyinnleaf
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I wondered why I see different when I read Discord. 😄😂
@lilyaster2911
Жыл бұрын
Is so fun hearing everyone getting mad about Discord, because i like the new font tbh
@dewdropdaisy
Жыл бұрын
I genuinely hate the new font. I’m autistic and visually impaired and good god when I tell you I had a meltdown when my Discord updated. BetterDiscord just does not show the themes/plugins tabs anymore and I’ve been using it for a year now. I have a very handy dyslexia theme that I unfortunately got accustomed to that does not work anymore. The font is so difficult to read it gives me headaches. I don’t know what’s wrong with BD. I uninstalled it, reinstalled it, repaired it, the only thing I didn’t do was delete discord itself and try it. It shows the BD changelog but nothing else.
@epics-rag953
Жыл бұрын
"If you are on mobile or whatever" Me: yesss speak "Sucks to suck"
@deg3309
Жыл бұрын
4:08 "Fuck terfs" "What is terfs" "Meow" "??" peak discord right here
@krisnava2110
Жыл бұрын
A bunch of troons sperging out.
@QuackZack
Жыл бұрын
I legit thought my discord was corrupted or something when I saw the new text, it was a silent update. I got no notification. That said, I'm okay with the new font, thought might want to go back to BetterDiscord but it has broken for me (regular client btw) the past few months. Also pretty sure an update broken most of the plugins, that's great.
@enderprism
Жыл бұрын
I'm on GNU/Linux and the font looks perfectly fine here, that's why I was a bit confused when I saw the video title.
@Popotato7777
Жыл бұрын
I have a lot of myopia, astigmatism and nigtasmus, so i do kinda see it deepfried/distorted. But so far i can live with it.
@_Backpack_
Жыл бұрын
I actually don't mind the new font, but I think people should be able to choose which font, since a lot of people probably don't like it
@lizzard96
Жыл бұрын
don't have any vision issues afaik but I'm super prone to getting headaches (especially migraines) and just smth abt that new font makes my head hurt if I look at it for more than a few minutes :')
@JoelLinus
Жыл бұрын
This update destroyed my server aesthetic, because foreign fonts have now gotten bigger.
@AsleepForever
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, my eyes hurt so bad looking at this font
@Numerosity
Жыл бұрын
Discord seems to have forgotten the golden rule: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
@_lun4r_
Жыл бұрын
1:13 It is broken, but if you use the manual method on the BD website, it'll work. I even have a thing that's just a "double-click to run and you get BD"
@Kingstnn
Жыл бұрын
Nobody’s gonna talk about the file on his computer named “Cult Plans”
@takeeto9894
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't figure out why gg sans was so hard to read, I have astigmatism and this just explained it
@k680B
Жыл бұрын
i'll be honest, i expected this outrage on the new font it's like pretty much every time youtube changes it's look, people get mad, and after a month or 2 everyone gets used to it and forgets that there even was a change and for the first time, i wasn't a part of this outrage, sure, font looked weird at first, but not bad, so i gave it a chance, and now it feels as normal as if it was always there and regardless of discord's reasons, people want things to get better, but hate change, so the only way to make things better is to force changes and let them sink in
@CupidGTag
Жыл бұрын
i have an astigmatism and that demonstration was great
@ZincoDrone
Жыл бұрын
I’m just glad I only have a astigmatism in one eye that isn’t terrible so as long as I wear my glasses (which I already do while using my computer) I have no issues as of now.
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