Good video ... while flour Gold is the most difficult to recover, it is also the easiest to locate.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video.
@pattaylor4407
4 жыл бұрын
I get that what you’re saying about the black sand is that when the black sand and the gold particles are the same size, the gold, being heavier stays behind, while the black sand which is lighter, is swept away. Right? This was a real fun video to watch!
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
yes.
@paulconnell2385
4 жыл бұрын
Well done with extreme fines!!!
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@washingtonbeachmining7736
4 жыл бұрын
Nice Job Chris you did it. It is a challenge to get this gold out of the beach sand and that is why it is some of the hardest stuff to catch.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
It was a crazy amount of work and if I were handling this stuff all the time, I'd develop a more efficient system to process it. The smallness is bad enough, bu the flatness of the flakes causes them to stick to everything. Anyway, thanks for the challenge. I look forward to chatting with you about Nevada placers.
@washingtonbeachmining7736
4 жыл бұрын
Yes it sticks to anything, and other commenters say why i don't heat it up in a pan and dry it out. They just don't get it. I go with clean gold from snuffer bottle to the vial, drain excess water from vial with a Q tip and apply a slight breeze from a small fan into the vial. Drys overnight for me and i don't loose any gold.
@alistairclark6814
9 ай бұрын
I love using the blue bowl! Thanks for the info on it!
@ChrisRalph
9 ай бұрын
The blue bowl is a handy tool.
@HDshovelEd
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a bit more info on prospecting Chris, Been enjoying reading the book of your when I have free time... There is a LOT to take in for sure.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video.
@jamest.5001
7 ай бұрын
I also thought possibly using a sheet of sand paper. With a hole in it. Glued to the bottom of the bowl. Something fine depending on the gold. 2000 grit to ,5000 grit maybe 10,000grit , so the tiny peaks and valleys can hold the gold in place and the water can get under the Lighter "stuff" hopefully much faster!
@ChrisRalph
7 ай бұрын
Pretty much all sandpaper is put on some form of paper. In time the paper will fall apart.
@markopittman2833
4 жыл бұрын
been saving mine just for this during the winter , so i will be looking up your video then. thanks ahead of time chris.-hangtown mark
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video.
@rockman8358
3 жыл бұрын
I don't waste time with a magnet and I don't use a bowl. I crush the black sand with ceramic plates. Both gold and PGM are malleable while the brittle minerals get crushed. I don't pan. Once the material is fine enough I carefully decant. I have found diamond, platinum and gold. Interestingly I have also found Lots of native copper as well.
@ChrisRalph
3 жыл бұрын
OK.
@karenuntz6514
4 жыл бұрын
Would have enjoyed this better if the camera shots were closer.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
I'll think of that next time. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@karenuntz6514
4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRalph Thank you for responding. Really enjoy your vids. Just a beginner in GA, where we have a lot of mica to mess with. Gold colored mica! And lots of garnet sand. 😎
@karenuntz6514
4 жыл бұрын
I'm also finding tiny silver slivers. Not sure what that is.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Mica is light and will wash off easily when panning. When you have panned down to the black sand, the mica will be gone. Garnets will remain with the black sand.
@karenuntz6514
4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRalph Thank you! ❤
@jamest.5001
7 ай бұрын
I think a pulsed electromagnet could be used with or without the blue bowl, with a low frequency pulse, 1Hz or so. That only last 1/100 -1/10 of a second or something. The pulse could create just enough of a disturbance in the mixture to help the bowl to do it's thing ! So fast of pulse , nothing sticks to the magnet !
@ChrisRalph
7 ай бұрын
Do some testing and see if it works.
@BrokerBarbara119
4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the Desert Fox spiral wheel would go a little faster than the a Blue Bowel?
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Its much better for coarser gold. It would go faster but only get about half the gold in this super fine stuff.
@BrokerBarbara119
4 жыл бұрын
Chris Ralph, Professional Prospector So having both in the recovery arsenal would be important if one doesn't have a penchant for hours of panning. I'm a new sub and I'm enjoying your videos!
@GOWIN8109837
3 жыл бұрын
Blue Bowl 👌
@ChrisRalph
3 жыл бұрын
I like my blue bowl for fine gold recovery.
@richardrobertson1331
7 ай бұрын
When you dumped the gold from the blue bowl into the gold pan, you observed gold was "sticking" to the glass bottle's wall. Why didn't you use a surface detergent earlier because my problem with fine black sand and fine gold is those two continue to somewhat stick together. But will it stop the surface tension bond completely? So, did you re-process your black sand to see if any more fine gold could be recovered from it? Additionally, when you are removing black sand with a magnet, using a black colored gold pan the color black certainly helps to identify the fine gold particles, but it maybe hides some of the fine black sand. What color would be best? I was very interested in your work with this fine gold/black sand sample. Thanks for making this important video. We all have some very fine black sand and gold dust to deal with, I'm sure. If a prospector doesn't think he has gold dust, maybe he should re-test his black sand after watching this video.
@ChrisRalph
7 ай бұрын
Sticking to a solid smooth wall (like the glass) is different than repelling water and floating on the surface. I did use some detergent - I like to not use a lot so I don't generate bubbles. I also did go through it again and there wasn't much - just a trace.
@eugenetswong
4 жыл бұрын
Instead of using Jet Dry, I used old mouth wash. I didn't want to waste it by flushing it down the toilet, so I used it, and it helped. I noticed that it moved differently in the water, too. [Edit : grammar]
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I hope it worked for you.
@vk2ktm
2 жыл бұрын
is it the alcohol (metholated spirits) concentration? I remember from my geology unity that they use alcohol to change (and measure) the wetability of a soil. if window cleaner works well, then it is likely that it is alcohol that makes the difference. Your thoughts?
@jeffreyfarrington4299
11 ай бұрын
Yes definitely recycle your mouthwash- i repackaged mine and sell it at the used mouthwash trading post ! ( but not because im crazy )
@eugenetswong
11 ай бұрын
@@jeffreyfarrington4299"old", not "used"; come on people. I'm gross, but I'm not going to ask people to spit mouth wash on their gold pans.
@eugenetswong
11 ай бұрын
@@vk2ktmI didn't realize that you asked a question. I honestly don't know what chemical will do the trick. I assume that there is a soapy substance that helps. The problem will alcohol is that it will evaporate. I think that mouth wash has something else to it.
@lestersnoderly1579
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this valuable resource and information. I had been told by other prospectors that the “Blue Bowl” was a waste of time because it took a very long time to get the material. However, after reviewing your methodology and key setup information, I am planning on getting that system. You also mentioned and showed me the use of magnets to aid in further separation of magnetic material. What strength of magnets should I look to procure for doing this? All I currently have is a mechanics magnet on a telescoping rod for recovering small nuts and bolts, that is what I currently using to separate out magnetic material from dried concentrate. Your method of panning is very unique and it helps me to see the value of patience and practice. Thank you so much for this great lesson and knowledge.
@ChrisRalph
Жыл бұрын
describing the strength of magnets as a general thing is not easy. I would say your bolt picker is weak to medium at most. If you have 50 pounds of cons to work every week (like from a commercial operation), you dont want a blue bowl, but if you have just a few pounds it is great.
@lestersnoderly1579
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRalph What kind of concentrator would you recommend?
@ChrisRalph
Жыл бұрын
If you are a commercial operation,spend 10 grand and get a shaker table.
@Smithsgold
4 жыл бұрын
another good video !!!!!!
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hope you are staying dry and that you still have power. Its raining up here. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@Smithsgold
4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRalph I'm in the valley so our power hasn't been off and no rain here it's dry dry dry !!!!!! maybe we might get some rain next week
@709badwolf
4 жыл бұрын
great information! thanks! 👍
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video.
@vk2ktm
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I'll ever be that good - Methinks you just showed us the pinnacle of panning skills, and it is an eye opener. I'd be excited if I got a 10th of what you recovered from that sample :)
@ChrisRalph
2 жыл бұрын
It takes practice.
@jk-76
4 жыл бұрын
I use water to classify. It washes way more fine gold into the finest mesh.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
OK.
@jasonrahui6788
4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate .... I enjoyed learning from you about this ...... we got plenty of black sand beaches in New Zealand to try this on....
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video.
@goldprounlimited1750
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for sharing!!
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video.
@rexhavoc5643
4 жыл бұрын
Barite. That nasty white non-magnetic is barite in my part of the world. The tiny crystals lock togther like concrete in the pan. Great work as always Chris! Hope to get your book for Christmas :)
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video.
@anvilandmore9909
4 жыл бұрын
Going to try with Alabama super fine gold. I'll update.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Good luck, and I hope you find some nice yellow.
@russsherwood5978
4 жыл бұрын
thats the problem i,m haveing, beach sand w/ black sand,, been thinking bout a long tom miller table to do this on the beach,,,. be blessed and safe
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
@whiterockwp6934
4 жыл бұрын
Future video suggestion; "Diving/Sniping for Gold" ... I noticed there's a few guys who are having some recent success diving/sniping for Gold - they are just using hands tools to snipe the Gold out of bedrock crevices (without the use of a Dredge) ... I guess the reason they are having some success, is they are reaching crevices in the channel that have never seen human hands before ... while the bedrock crevices along the river bank above low water have generally been picked out multiple times.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Good idea. I definitely plan on doing some sniping videos, but the locations where I would do that are at the beginning of winter and the water will be ice cold. I am going to wait to do some sniping videos until next year when the weather warms. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@markselten4985
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Chris. I enjoy these sorts of challenges. Isn't the blue bowl great.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
@benben9851
2 жыл бұрын
In general, are high elevation, active volcanic areas common areas to find gold? Too simple of a question, I know. I'm still new and learning. The area is famous for its geothermal properties. I was thinking maybe the heat pushes nuggets to the surface, then trickles down to the river beds. Thank you 🙏
@ChrisRalph
2 жыл бұрын
In general, active volcanic areas are terrible places to find gold. Gold veins are formed deep in the earth.
@pattaylor4407
4 жыл бұрын
If you think a good miller table ( which one would that be), is more effective that the blue bowl, would you please demonstrate its use in an upcoming video, please? Thank you!
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
I dont own a miller table, but they do work. I'm not an equipment dealer.
@georgesenda1952
4 жыл бұрын
How do you which beach sands might have gold ? Also, there is a very long creek here in Martinez, Ca. that flows from the hills out to the Bay and then up towards Benicia. I wondered why that creek and this area seems to have no gold, while a relative few miles away, gold is found in creeks and rivers. I do enjoy your videos but I tend to skip forward at times to the final results. Once we get a car again, I will save up for MY 4x4 and even my girlfriend wants to go look for gold. One thing no one has covered that I have seen. Whether you find flakes or nuggets or gold in sand, what percentage will a dealer take out when you go to sell it ? If we found one ounce of gold and assuming they take out 10%, it would pay my rent for 6 months. I live in senior housing owned by my county. $247 a month. My silver is worth a lot more. I started buying silver at $5 an ounce 12-15 years ago.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Not every state has gold not every creek not every ravine.
@ericendicott6133
4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy learning from you. I live near the Snake River below hells canyon. We have alot of ultra fine flour gold and black sand everywhere. Definitely have decided to get a blue bowl. What do you think about Miller tables ?
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
The blue bowl worked, but honestly, I think a good miller table would be better than the blue bowl for this stuff. I dont own a miller table or I'd have used one in this video. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@SunTzuLao
4 жыл бұрын
I think I have a gallon jug of black sand from the south shore of lake Ontario. I've found some gemstones, mostly just Garnet and olivine. Going to try the thing you showed in the video, I doubt I'll find anything, but I mostly just like sitting on the beach 😆
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like fun. Glad you enjoyed the video
@normedias659
3 жыл бұрын
Great video,I have some questions if to sale a black sand🙏we have a black sand here..
@ChrisRalph
3 жыл бұрын
Gold is valuable. Black sand with no gold is not valuable.
@justindixon4564
4 жыл бұрын
I got about 20 specs from a pan of a black layer of sand on our local beach. So now i have about 100 kilo of black sand in my shed. I will pan it all it if we go into lockdown. So i am looking for a more efficient way.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
set up a recirculating sluice to process it. Then pan the concentrates.
@justindixon4564
4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRalph thanks
@scottl3739
4 жыл бұрын
Get a gold cube,or gold hog multi slice to process it to something pannable or Just smelt it with a flux ,sand and all...you will eventually need to smelt as gold fever worsen's 🤣🤣 it's a very expensive hobby 😁,you better off buying a welder that can weld aluminum and making all your own equipment as that's the direction I'm going after thousands spent 🤣🤣🤣🤣 if I'm being honest 😂 good luck hopefully your family and friends can get together with your hobbies! Take care ✌️👍👍
@Vean440
3 жыл бұрын
You tricked me that into thinking I got bad headphones, hearing you only on left earpiece for some unknown reason.
@ChrisRalph
3 жыл бұрын
you know its only that way for some users.
@philipandrew1626
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRalph you can mix your audio to be both right and left channels.
@nhragold1922
4 жыл бұрын
So I was reading some stuff, and apparently you can actually get gold from the black sand if you grind it . Apparently some values are really rich. I was going to try some
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Only rarely does grinding yield enough gold to make it worth the time. Glad you enjoyed the video
@nhragold1922
4 жыл бұрын
I suppose I won't bother then lol. Thanks for sharing
@cushionofair
4 жыл бұрын
You can get gold and other platinum group elements from magnetite buy microwave smelting look up John Milewski .
@armangazeryan8541
3 жыл бұрын
How about using aquaregia to extract gold out of black sand? Wil it work?
@ChrisRalph
3 жыл бұрын
Bad idea. It will dissolve the iron of the black sand first.
@armangazeryan8541
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRalph nitric acid first resolve the black sand and after that aquaregia to get the gold?
@jeffbaker2740
2 ай бұрын
I didn't see anything in the Blue bowl
@ChrisRalph
2 ай бұрын
OK.
@angelahales8775
2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking for some help to get some in person training so I can start up my businesses. Hoping u can help me
@ChrisRalph
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I have so very many commitments already that I cannot offer training or consulting services. Best of luck to you.
@miketurany2082
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!! Ya better get some water in that sample bag son to get ALL THE GOLD OUT and yes.... You're gonna get wet( ask jeff Williams).
@ChrisRalph
2 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@maxstephens815
4 жыл бұрын
Same deal. I hear your adds, your technical parts, your add on the book but nothing else!
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Good luck to you!
@mrjferg1975
3 жыл бұрын
Can I send you some black sand from southeast Mississippi? I have found a lot of super fine gold here. I'd like to see if it actually is gold. Thank you.
@ChrisRalph
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry. I get many, many requests for personal help.
@forzastella1
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, great videos thanks for sharing your experience. I have a question, if I have a small bag of concentrate (300 grams) which contains gold, silver, copper, and smaller amounts of platinum and palladium, is there a similar simple method of separating all of these? Platinum has the highest SG of 21 which is close to the SG of gold which is 19, so I assume that these two minerals would be together at the end of the blue bucket, but the other minerals although lower than the SG of gold also have a relatively high SG. I assume it would be more difficult since silver, platinum, and palladium are similar in colour, but If you have any method for separating these minerals when they are found together in black sand I would be interested to hear your method. Thank you
@ChrisRalph
3 жыл бұрын
depends on the form the minerals are in. Gold and platinum will be in the heaviest fraction at the end.
@forzastella1
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRalph they are in finely crushed form, between 1 mm - 50 microns in size
@vk2ktm
2 жыл бұрын
@@forzastella1 does it make sense to extract the gold and platinum, then repeat the process with the tailings? the logic seems to be that you can extract the lighter from the heavier.
@metalblack4697
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@ChrisRalph
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it.
@tc8533
3 жыл бұрын
I wish you would have given close up views instead of trying to rely on your verbal description. I struggle with refining my black sand at this stage and am sure I loose gold!
@ChrisRalph
3 жыл бұрын
Well, if I do that again maybe I will.
@MrAttaYt
3 жыл бұрын
video is not clearly for thinkig .There should be video clear and every thing names should be clear thanks by deewana
@ChrisRalph
3 жыл бұрын
you comment is vague and unclear.
@mkme2358
3 жыл бұрын
I think some people use mercury to do the process that you did... not environmental. If that mercury comes in contact with the gold... won't it harm the wearer of the gold?
@ChrisRalph
3 жыл бұрын
The gold - mercury alloy mix is heated, driving away the mercury. Therefore the final gold product has no mercury - but the mercury often leaks into the environment.
@armiyaumuhammad7282
4 ай бұрын
Hello 😂
@ChrisRalph
4 ай бұрын
Greetings.
@georgesenda1952
4 жыл бұрын
Book is too expensive for someone on low income who seeks to pan gold. $20 would have been reasonable.
@ChrisRalph
4 жыл бұрын
Watching videos is free.
@georgesenda1952
4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRalph yes, but there are places were wi fi and the internet do not reach. books are a reference that work everywhere. Of course, you could publish it on a cd set or pdf that one could read on a dvd player or laptop Or Ipad. All of which I have acquired over some 20 years.
@ahealthierkirk2558
4 жыл бұрын
@@georgesenda1952 you can download youtube videos to watch anytime
@thethoughtmaster
4 жыл бұрын
Why not talk how your right channel sound is annoying, it is no wonder you got downvotes. We do not want a video where someone put gold in the black sand, we want to see you get gold from natural black sand.
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