As a lakers fan I’ve never got over the cp3 trade not happening. This just made me even more mad , I didn’t know this scenario 🤣🤣🤣 thanks Gil 😭😭😭
@240TechGuy
Жыл бұрын
After how CP3 is with the Suns and Clippers, I wonder if CP3 will start drama with other players in the Laker roster at the time. Everywhere he goes, drama seem to follow him.
@murdarichblood7603
Жыл бұрын
Likewise man.
@marquismcghee
Жыл бұрын
@@240TechGuy being on teams that had racist or sexist owners is not Chris Paul's doing... he did nothing to expose or bring drama to those teams
@wzrdhndrixx7089
Жыл бұрын
All I got was they was hating on Kobe and the lakers and blew Chris chance at a ring
@OGdienomyte850
Жыл бұрын
Factual data
@timg2655
Жыл бұрын
Dam bro didn't know it went that deep 😂 7 max caliber players would be hilarious to see together, ultra mega super team
@0mar-777
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@xxtooshiestyxx8756
Жыл бұрын
Fucking Bill Russell Celtics type shit 😂
@MrAlvarez23
Жыл бұрын
Damn this is freaking insane
@camerondrain8166
Жыл бұрын
GILBERT IS LYING. THE LAKERS WOULD NOT HAVE 7 MAX PLAYERS. A MAX CONTRACT BACK THEN WAS 22-24M. IDK WHY HE KEEPS SAYING IT WAS 12M. IN ONE SENTANCE HE SAID KOBE WAS MAKING 24M THEN HE SAID IF THEY GET RID OF HIM THEY'D GET 2 MAX PLAYERS IN RETURN... HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. HALF THE STUFF HE SAYS IS GENIUS AND THE OTHER HALF IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT. LIKE THE ONE TIME HE SAID POWER FOWARDS IN THE 90s WERE 6'4"
@pershon5931
Жыл бұрын
@@camerondrain8166 A power forward was. chuck thats prolly what he said
@skylimitkt
Жыл бұрын
Jeannie Bus said if her brother would have listened and not reported the trade until she got back from meeting with the owners, the trade would have went through.
@cdou1301
Жыл бұрын
Glad she is running things now. Her brother was a hothead
@AndrewEvenstar
Жыл бұрын
damn I've never heard that before and I'm a big time Lakers fan
@marcrose3403
Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewEvenstar yea on all the smoke
@jefferylakes388
Жыл бұрын
Sabotage Jim Buss was so desperate to prove his worth to his dad he screwed up everything! What a punk!
@KK-pm7ud
Жыл бұрын
Her brother has done more to hurt the Lakers than Roman Roy for Waystar.
@jparlay92
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Gil. I was in middle school when this traded got vetoed. I’m a grown man 29 yrs old…Can’t believe it took this long to FULLY UNDERSTAND this whole fiasco 😅
@ParkinLotPimpin816
Жыл бұрын
Being in middle school at 17 yrs old is crazy work
@drestackz1158
Жыл бұрын
Bruh I was in middle schoo when that happen how is u 29 I was like 13
@ginmarshall1527
Жыл бұрын
High school*
@vernonholden262
Жыл бұрын
@@drestackz1158 facts && im 25 😂😂😂😂
@TheNBAHistory
Жыл бұрын
Your math not making sense.
@AstroxVerse
Жыл бұрын
Idc what anyone says , if the trade would've went through , Kobe wouldn't of had to exert himself so much with having more help like cp3 , this would've gave him more longevity to his career and not getting hurt.
@gardybanks6738
Жыл бұрын
So all of a sudden CP3 gonna stay healthy in the playoffs?
@femiadebiyi5451
Жыл бұрын
@@gardybanks6738 Chill😂😂
@emmanuelmondesir
Жыл бұрын
Even if he didn’t you would have Arenas as a back up.
@kobeandgary
Жыл бұрын
@@gardybanks6738 good possibility, as Kobe also helps takes a burden off CP3.
@charliec2966
Жыл бұрын
Not true
@livelifestrong6300
Жыл бұрын
You got an actual former NBA player to speak out in detail about a controversy that has never been spoken out in the public. Not even ESPN could do that. Bravo to you sir. 👏
@Maker004
Жыл бұрын
Take Gilbert arenas with a grain of salt
@ssjasonlopez
Жыл бұрын
No Chill Gil doesn’t care and keeps it real.
@lososmith9087
Жыл бұрын
Hell yea. Gil a treasure
@franklynlindsay2728
Жыл бұрын
Gilbert plays by his own rules march to his own beat. Love this dude.
@feezywg6427
Жыл бұрын
Genie bus did the interview about it
@curtisthompson8687
Жыл бұрын
They didn’t wanna see Kobe at 6 the whole nba narrative would’ve change
@Bloomsburg14
Жыл бұрын
6 7 8 9 10 🤣
@mical2great
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Jordan has made more money for nba than some top players combined
@FBaned
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@tasan215
Жыл бұрын
🎯
@Ackshuallymmm
Жыл бұрын
They removed illegal defense after Lakers pretty much swept everyone in the 2001 playoffs. Lakers would've won 6 straight in the 2000s.
@GabeTheGreat
Жыл бұрын
Mark Cuban said hell nah turn the trade negotiations sliders up 😂😂
@Purlypurlington
Жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@willfrazier8485
Жыл бұрын
yooooo lol
@TheMassiveGamer
Жыл бұрын
Put EVERYTHING on max😂
@Ben-il3oc
Жыл бұрын
Shark tank lol
@Macc504
Жыл бұрын
He got that shark in him 😭😭😭
@efxss5179
Жыл бұрын
Gil is one of my favorite players to listen to. Hes seen every era, played in the league at a high level, had some legendary teammates, and has his own individual classic stories like the bringing a gun into the locker room. lmao happy hes here to share with us.
@edwardnigma4087
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but his reason for bringing the gun… wasn’t it because his teammate wouldn’t pay a gambling bet or something like that? He went from top player in the league, then almost like Antonio Brown in the NFL, did a bunch of crazy shit and poof, out of the league!
@trilla3817
Жыл бұрын
@@edwardnigma4087 yeah he made a ignorant mistake. Luckily he’s doing amazing now !
@edwardnigma4087
Жыл бұрын
@@trilla3817 I’m glad he’s on the right track, maybe someone like him can reach out to Ja Morant and offer some advice.
@AJF4150
Жыл бұрын
He's a BS azz clown 🤡 trying to stay relevant.
@kesea5454
Жыл бұрын
His version of events is probably pretty accurate, but...if there's 1 thing Gilbert gonna do, it's make every story about Gilbert.
@pony999
Жыл бұрын
Wait what? You got Gilbert Arenas on the call?! Nice
@JustCoachMode
Жыл бұрын
These type of collabs and heat check hitting a mill this year
@lemonslrg330
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on landing this interview! Man you've come far, keep up the grind bro
@asolonik77
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately for us Laker fans it was The perfect Storm. The league had literally just taken over the Hornets. Had the trade gone down with any other team there would have been less of a chance that this could have happened but because the commissioner was directly involved in the day-to-day operations of the Hornets every other owner was looking at him and would blame him... Don't forget David Stern was also in the last years of his tenure with the NBA so he knew he couldn't leave Adam Silver with 28 angry owners and a Laker team that would dominate the league for the next 10 years...
@nature-kv3xe
Жыл бұрын
LeBron James got away with these trades and tampering smh
@myronwilborn6561
Жыл бұрын
@@nature-kv3xe lebron is just a player not a Gm or owner, and he’s never been involved with a trade as a player.
@jridge7075
Жыл бұрын
@nature93 you do realize a player can't trade any players lol smh you sound out of touch old man
@SlanditTheBandit
Жыл бұрын
@@myronwilborn6561 you’re lying to yourself
@myronwilborn6561
Жыл бұрын
@@SlanditTheBandit based on what?
@rahaki9624
Жыл бұрын
Not even a Lakers fan, and I always wondered what happened in that trade. Wow, thanks Gil😅. Gil was always there
@cincinnatias
Жыл бұрын
Listening to gilbert; it's always "his truth," instead of maybe 💯% truth
@emmapeel38
Жыл бұрын
@@cincinnatias Yes, he's full of it. I'd heard via a podcast (Paul Shirley) around 2012, that despite Chris Paul having great respect for Kobe, he didn't want to play with him; information that Shirley had heard about. People always get on Stern about blocking that trade, but that's the only logical reason that he would have done so. Even if the NBA owned and were running the Hornets (Pelicans) at that time, didn't mean that they weren't going to allow any trades; especially if it benefited the Hornets. Think about it, they (the NBA) still wound up trading CP3 to the Clippers shortly after, while they were still operating the team. On top of this, it's not like the NBA doesn't have a history of bending over backwards to make something work for the Lakers. Anthony Davis. Shaq. Kareem. Howard. Pau Gasol. Kobe, to an extent, as he didn't want to play for Charlotte in '96, but the Lakers were one of two teams that he wanted to play for.
@Titova-prababa
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Heat Check and Gilbert Arenas for finaly know what actualy happend
@MrAlvarez23
Жыл бұрын
This is great collaboration I like it. Keep it up
@LanceG007
Жыл бұрын
This is not what happened lol Gill is making himself seem more important.Jeanie Buss has already said what actually happened
@ATLMike94
Жыл бұрын
Don't believe Gil with this story. He's making up sh*t
@isiahhadleyisozay5062
Жыл бұрын
Dang so basically if Mark Cuban didn't say something the NBA would have been screwed
@Grievous_
Жыл бұрын
Warriors would’ve still owned them 😂
@Dabherenthere
Жыл бұрын
@@Grievous_ I mean as long as Kobe got his 6th ring…
@Red-xd3fg
Жыл бұрын
@@Grievous_ assuming with the different landscape somehow the warriors would still choose Curry. Butterfly effect my friend
@jaystreet4004
Жыл бұрын
@@Grievous_ you must be on crack.
@stefanjevtic5080
Жыл бұрын
@@Red-xd3fg I totally agree, @Grievous is one of those who do not think thoroughly before saying or writing something
@rainman3216
Жыл бұрын
Heat Check moving up. NICE
@GBamaBoy
Жыл бұрын
Kobe could of won at least 7 or 8 chips if the CP3 trade would of happened. Also, No way Jerry Buss would of let Kobe walked. He was the best Player in the league.
@Rambo20244
Жыл бұрын
not around that time lebron and kd new passed kobe in 2012
@GBamaBoy
Жыл бұрын
@@Rambo20244 passing someone doesn't mean anything when you're still a top 5 Player. Kobe would of had ballers around him. Good luck beating him.
@AuditoryStorytelling
Жыл бұрын
The Lakers were way too committed to Kobe to let him go (at least prior to his Achilles injury). Maybe if he tore his Achilles at that time, it could have happened. But that was 3 years after. The Lakers is a FAMILY owned team, and they treat their players like a family owned team... so with Kobe's committment for 17 years I don't see them getting rid of him. Think about it... in 2010, Lebron had not one a SINGLE title. Why would they drop a proven champion for Lebron, who keeps losing in the east??? Just wouldn't have happened.
@manmann55
Жыл бұрын
I've always heard the rumor that if CP3 went to the lakers, it would give the lakers a huge advantage, but i never understood why until today watching this video. I wasn't even thinking about the potential money the Lakers would have had remaining after the trade. I would love to peek into an alternate timeline where this went through...
@TaybeenTrill248
Жыл бұрын
AS a day, one Laker fan, I would too‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
@AntonioMcGill-v8m
Жыл бұрын
@manmann55 you can still visit that timeline. Just take a ticket @The TVA (Time variant Authority) hand it to Dr Strange and wala...
@melvynsngltn27
Жыл бұрын
@@moralhazard2563nice joke
@Surfword
Жыл бұрын
Truth be told had the NBA let this happen the league would be so different today
@LA562mike
Жыл бұрын
The league is already different
@HoweyJR_
Жыл бұрын
@@LA562mike did you read what he said?
@OVOChatgpt
Жыл бұрын
@@HoweyJR_ lol
@HoweyJR_
Жыл бұрын
@@OVOChatgpt lol
@danielgo3023
Жыл бұрын
Happy to see my fave channel leveling up!
@Lazdontplaythat16
Жыл бұрын
Pau was supposed to go to the rockets with that deal and all the players in the deal that was canceled spoiled the chemistry. That year was so brutal
@cmoney555elcinco
Жыл бұрын
yep
@32MattyB
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@RariShiesty
Жыл бұрын
And we still a had to trade Odom smh
@pedroramirez0824
Жыл бұрын
Yea Pau to Houston,Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Odom we’re going to the hornets plus draft picks. And all the lakers would get was CP, such bullshit it was vetoed cuz the clippers got cp3 for mf eric Gordon and buncha scrubs. Good job David stern
@LanceG007
Жыл бұрын
@@RariShiesty that ruined us
@dskinner8757
Жыл бұрын
Gilbert Arenas is the TK Kirkland of basketball 🏀 😂
@fateendagreat3355
Жыл бұрын
Facts!!!! 😂😂😂
@JohnHernandez-mo5db
Жыл бұрын
im uncultured. please elaborate
@Munir9595
8 ай бұрын
Real nigga comment 😂😂. Damn
@asparapee4213
Жыл бұрын
I love how Gilbert is self aware to where he knew his contract was an absolute albatross.
@murdarichblood7603
Жыл бұрын
😢 When you a die hard Lakers fan hearing this in 2023!!
@Foreign84
Жыл бұрын
Painful lol! Mark cuban is a hoe for that
@bigsnacks2350
Жыл бұрын
Interesting how Cuban called foul play on that and then ends up winning a chip right after....
@virgilconner7884
Жыл бұрын
I heard a conspiracy that mavs won cuz nba owed them from 06 and I’m sure u know what I’m talking Bout. But word of mouf is Cuban was gone expose LeRoids ped use 🤷🏾♂️
@Major.321
Жыл бұрын
Real shit 🤨
@differentsame9402
Жыл бұрын
No this trade happened after the Mavs won the finals
@mikemurray8562
Жыл бұрын
Crazy how so many stories are behind the scenes. Laker nation we can cry again together 😭
@burniek.3259
Жыл бұрын
This truth bomb hurts even more. Thank you Gilbert for clearing it up for us.
@JPDigital24
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@rashan2424
Жыл бұрын
Next mission: Ask Allen Iverson about the time when the refs literally decided they weren't going to call a foul on him
@Gwuapgang
Жыл бұрын
Yessssssirrrr
@willfrazier8485
Жыл бұрын
Since we talking...
@lilt1482
Жыл бұрын
Was that the infamous bucks vs 6ers game
@EtiandroRosa
Жыл бұрын
Yo u in a live with Gilbert?? U leveling in up. Mad respect Bro.
@jmoo876
Жыл бұрын
Mark Cuban didnt want Kobe to surpass MJ. He had nothing to say about Lebron and Durant making super teams. League had it out for Kobe, even gave his mvp to Nash
@tayvonwilson1443
Жыл бұрын
He said Cuban wasn’t worried that they was getting cp3 it’s that they would have enough money to get 3 more players for max deals
@boomshakalaka8567
8 ай бұрын
You sound like those weird Kobe nut-huggers from Insidehoops. Lmfao. That's such a wild take lmfao.
@Romanus-
Жыл бұрын
Great interview Stefan. Good you imagine 5 mvp level players on the same team. That would have been absolutely insane
@LevitheLegend
Жыл бұрын
Would have been ridiculous to see
@MrSheduur
Жыл бұрын
Because it would have never happened. Gilbert is all over the place, but not in reality.
@JOEMCKINLEY3
Жыл бұрын
That’s essentially what ended up happening with the Warriors getting Steph locked in for 4 years $44 million during his breakout and having enough room to sigh KD
@princek6778
Жыл бұрын
They banned it cus they ain’t want Kobe winning 6 or 7
@Hitch_49
Жыл бұрын
Cuban despises the Lakers
@soyllpapi942
Жыл бұрын
He legit just say it was deeper then that. If it had been to any other team just coming off a back to back that was a major market, it's the same story.
@DarkLord_Morty
Жыл бұрын
Lmao cp3 ain't gonna do that for him
@Somewhereafter5
Жыл бұрын
But the let lebron go to the heat NBA didn't like Kobe after the rape charge
@floking8792
Жыл бұрын
Facts!!
@mrvxg4820
Жыл бұрын
Lakers taking care of Kobe at the end got them Lebron. The way they are taking care of Lebron and Klutch will bring them another star when that time comes.
@jqualls7901
Жыл бұрын
no it didn't ‼️🤣💯💯
@xxtooshiestyxx8756
Жыл бұрын
@@jqualls7901 prolly not but no way he go to Lakers if they dog Kobe out towards the end... Kobe/magic was major factors
@michlo3393
Жыл бұрын
@@jqualls7901 Fucking NBA insider over here.
@mentalprograming5365
Жыл бұрын
@@xxtooshiestyxx8756 facts, magic went to lebron house to get him to sign the deal, they even had pics online of lebron and magic with the contract they both touching which i think lakers took down, and kobe was quoted saying he talked to lebron on the phone and gave him his blessings before he signed.. this is why lebron was so mad when magic stepped down and he was so anxious to play in the bubble and bring LA a title after kobe died because the 2 people that brought him to the lakers were no longer around the organization, magic still doesnt go around them like that, he will talk about them very good on espn but he stepped far away
@mcmerry2846
Жыл бұрын
🤡 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@aaronm8552
Жыл бұрын
As a Mav Fan. THANK YOU GIL! without that "incident" we do not get Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood, and DeShawn Stevenson. 2011 Champion Catalyst Players.
@zo62
Жыл бұрын
That was after the title run
@aaronm8552
Жыл бұрын
@@zo62 December 2009 In his new memoir, Tuff Juice: My Journey from the Streets to the NBA, veteran Caron Butler recounted the now-infamous incident between Gilbert Arenas and Javaris Crittenton in December 2009, when the two teammates with the Washington Wizards brought guns into the locker room.
@zo62
Жыл бұрын
@@aaronm8552 oh you were referring to that I was thinking about the trade he was talking about
@DouglasLee9
Жыл бұрын
Hahahha
@nitoshadow
Жыл бұрын
Caron butler was injured he ain’t even really play for us But it was still good to have him on the team
@EnterScreenameHere
Жыл бұрын
Yeah man, the CP trade was something I never got over as a fan
@nikolaininkov
Жыл бұрын
Just imagine a team with Kobe, CP3, Gilbert Arenas and Dwight. Boy that would have been a squad.
@trashboat4020
Жыл бұрын
Gil was washed that's why Orlando was desperate to get rid of his contract
@directedbydon
Жыл бұрын
@@trashboat4020 Also, Dwight blew out his back in LA.
@celticsfan4lyfe33
Жыл бұрын
@@directedbydon also Dwight averages close to 20points and a less workload with cp3 feeding him
@J.A.Z-TheMortal
Жыл бұрын
The Lakers where going to immediately waive Gil and use that 24 million in salary cap space to go after LeBron or KD or Bosh or any other max players. It would have been team USA in LA. We kinda got that in Golden State for 4 years but this would have been even more crazy
@jalenad11
Жыл бұрын
@Directed by Don Dwight's back was already messed up. He just played through it and had the surgery in LA. Because he played through it so long, he had issues again in Houston. Thats the reason I thought James Harden got robbed by Steph for MVP. He played half the season without Dwight.
@wizard932
Жыл бұрын
Kobe would’ve had 6 or 7 but they wanted the bron era to begin
@livefromthemotherland
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@AortizM3
Жыл бұрын
No
@wizard932
Жыл бұрын
@@AortizM3 yes
@justincase9337
Жыл бұрын
He just said they would have had cap room and had a chance to sign Lebron too so your point not valid.
@wizard932
Жыл бұрын
@@justincase9337 what does that have to do with anything. U not even makin sense
@playthatagainbruh394
Жыл бұрын
This is 🧢 Mark Cuban wasnt the one making the fuss it was Dan Gilbert from the Cavs who penned a letter about the trade and how the Lakers would still save while getting CP3 Next 12M (said 24M is 2 max contracts)...The heatles signed a yr before and their contracts were 14.5M with them taking less at the time. Also they wouldnt have signed Lebron because he signed a 4yr deal with miami yr before. There wasnt really a big free agency class like the years before with melo and then amare, bosh, wade, lebron.
@dannybuck4445
Жыл бұрын
Exactly bro this guy telling fairy tales..Straight 🧢
@solomonsebina7946
Жыл бұрын
We are not believing you bruh bruh
@joet5565
Жыл бұрын
Teams could only amnesty their own player too so from the beginning he was making shit up
@ThereWasThisBchFromMinnesota
Жыл бұрын
Bruh you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about and you clearly didn’t pay attention to what Gilbert said at all😂 First of all, there were multiple owners who opposed, and complained about the Chris Paul trade, and Mark Cuban was one of them. You can literally go back and look at the reports from 2011. And Gilbert stated multiple times that he wasn’t talking about the Lakers signing LeBron. He said the Lakers could sign all star caliber help with the money left over. Bruh said it so many times, you gotta be slow in the head
@casualgamer1991
Жыл бұрын
Everyone glossing over your comment. This guy was spitting a ton of cap.
@mont-doggBeats
Жыл бұрын
The league owned the hornets at the time so the owners collectively were literally the ones with the power to block the trade. If Tom benson had owned the team at the time it wouldn’t have mattered what Cuban said. And the trade didn’t send either Odom or Gasol to New Orleans. Odom asked to go to Dallas and Gasol was going to Houston. The hornets were getting all of the rockets role players
@aslan4196
Жыл бұрын
New Orleans would have received Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic, Lamar Odom re-routed for a 1st, future picks. They would have had a fairly competitive team they already had Emeka Okafor, Carl Landry, Jarret Jack, Trevor Ariza, Marco Belinelli. After the Veto NOLA had talks with GSW, they would have received Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson if Chris Paul agreed to an extension.
@mont-doggBeats
Жыл бұрын
@@aslan4196 no it wouldn’t have. They would have been a first round exit at best. Why should the team given up the best player get the role player and not at least Gasol. Lakers fans swear that was great. And yeah Paul vetoed the trade for Curry..that’s why I’m glad they blocked that trade
@Hitch_49
Жыл бұрын
@@mont-doggBeats they still got shit from lac
@mont-doggBeats
Жыл бұрын
@@Hitch_49 true
@ATHTSupply
Жыл бұрын
My advice is to watch Jeanie Buss explain why it didn’t go thru. It’s the more valid reason …. The only reason the other owners were upset was because they didn’t get the opportunity to properly give their own trade packages put together….
@CarlSong
Жыл бұрын
Gonna need some Khan Academy style animations to understand why Lakers would have ended up with so much cash after that trade.
@christianhutchinson4559
Жыл бұрын
The luxury tax was that punitive yet. So Lakers would have just paid it in exchange for top players.
@MrAlvarez23
Жыл бұрын
This is my mind bugging. To my knowledge, it was because Stern and Cuban had been salty because he didn't get Kobe in 07. We didn't know all about all of those players. Imagine having 5-7 Allstars players with the Lakers. WOW. 07 AS WELL they had a traded for Bron straight up for Kobe, but Kobe decided not to go that to that shit hole. His words, lol
@robert2690
Жыл бұрын
Who would? Lebron in that cavs team, I’m surprise they win 60+ games that season.
@camerondrain8166
Жыл бұрын
5-7 ALL SARS WAS NOT HAPPENING. A MAX CONTRACT WAS 20M BACK THEN NOT 12M. IDK WTF GIL IS TALKING ABOUT IN THIS VIDEO
@trysephiroth007
Жыл бұрын
@@camerondrain8166 he just likes to talk
@24djparker
Жыл бұрын
Actually Gil is right in the highest paid player in the league in 06/07 was KG at 21 million in his second to last year of his deal. Guys like Amare, Pierce, TMAC, Vince, and Lebron we’re making less than 15 million. Kobe home self only made 17 that year and it was his 2nd to last year of his deal. Typically NBA deal increase by about 5 - 8 million dollars yearly over the course of the contract so it’s possible to only have a 12-15 million dollar cap hit for a max player back then. Contracts now are just super inflated. The overall salary cap has double since then which is why max contracts are at about 30 mil now(excluding super max deals)
@tomimdawodu6808
Жыл бұрын
Gil probably got SOOOOO MUCH insider news like whats really is going that he can’t go into publicly until some time passes
@hellrello2739
Жыл бұрын
Too bad half of what he says doesn’t make sense or is a flat out lie. The man establishes that 24 is the max then proceeds to say the lakers could clear 24m and add 2 max players.
@rohanrobinson5557
Жыл бұрын
Thanks my G for giving us insight on what goes on in the league. It so great were that guy so no can say shit about your game. More Blessings my brother 🙏
@andrewwolf4963
Жыл бұрын
Gilbert has been and always will be my favorite player lol I’m a Washington fan but he’s given so much entertainment
@jaygoodie7890
Жыл бұрын
They didn't want kobe with 7-8 rings. That's why he had animosity towards shaq. If shaq would of had the mind set of wanting to be the best center he clearly could have in that new style area back in 1996-2006 but nope. Lakers took care of Kobe bc of how they did him not pulling that man off the floor and his goals to get to the playoffs his last 5 seasons. He had to much of a load to carry.
@jamesransom1981
Жыл бұрын
NBA EVEN STIRRED DRAMA TO BREAK THEM UP… That’s apart of the “THEY didn’t want Kobe with 7-8 rings”
@29mailliw
Жыл бұрын
And if they had won 7 rings it's obvious as well the measuring stick would be Kobe instead of Jordan it's as the league is indebted to Jordan and holds that in high regard. It makes sense even with lebron because if lebron had won that many Jordan would be forgotten this has many layers to it
@bosejefferson9731
Жыл бұрын
He just told you that nobody was thinking about Kobe. LOL. Kill the myth already.
@trecomas
Жыл бұрын
Shaq mind set was great. His career would have been over a lot sooner if he worked like kobe. He was getting hit so much that the refs said the game would last 4hrs if they called ever hard foul. HBO max has a great doc on shaq to show why things turned out the way they did.
@anon2414
Жыл бұрын
7-8 lol relax dude...they would have been lucky to even get one...Kobe was old already...and Dwight had back issues...but man for sure maybe one ring
@stefangayden4073
Жыл бұрын
Kobe actually said they were trying to get melo with that extra 24 mil from Denver along with cp3. NBA said no melo went to the knicks cp3 went to the clippers
@silentassassin3800
Жыл бұрын
If cp3 went to la, Kobe probably still playing till his 40. He probably might be alive today.
@HoweyJR_
Жыл бұрын
Na he’s where he belong
@HoweyJR_
Жыл бұрын
@IamGrandMagus what energy? I won’t risk my kids life to get to practice quicker
@pensivepoet3281
Жыл бұрын
@@HoweyJR_he’s where he belongs according to who?
@HoweyJR_
Жыл бұрын
@@pensivepoet3281 the creator of thought. That’s who mf
@akajjdnsnd2118
Жыл бұрын
@@HoweyJR_wtf is you talking bout risking his kids life that’s everyday life for them getting on that helicopter he bought it for a reason that’s like saying if you crash your car you rushed karma gone get you boy
@TheAntdeze
Жыл бұрын
Something not making since about Gils story. The caliber player Kobe was the lakers never was thinking of trading him.
@heshamallah6595
Жыл бұрын
Kobe still went to the Finals three years in a row and went 2 and three what did they stop? LA is always going to be in the mix.🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
@farhantalukder
Жыл бұрын
got no idea if i can believe gilbert man lmao he convincing though
@diegobromfield
Жыл бұрын
I was still mad that this trade didn't go through because that and the couple years that followed (injuries too) robbed Kobe of at least 1 more ring. But I didn't know it was this grand of a scheme. That team with or without Kobe could have potentially repeated. Don't think they'd have won a bunch though because you still had the Warriors coming in the mid and late 2010s, the Cavs & the Heat (since he said Bron was already there). But on paper it would be remarkable.
@melvincarter9640
Жыл бұрын
Dude with that line up the Warriors would not be winning no championship.
@diegobromfield
Жыл бұрын
@@melvincarter9640 With what lineup? He used Bron & Bosh as an example. Those 2 were already in Miami so which other 2 free agent players you'd find that time that would make a better or similar pairing? Howard had a bad back and was never the same player in the years that followed & CP is a pass first PG & Kobe was done after 2013. On paper it looks good but when you really think about it the extreme most they'd have won in the 2010s decade is probably 2. And that is me being generous because 2011 is likely the only genuine shot at making a final. Kobe wouldn't offer much after 2013 due to injuries and there is no equivalent player to that guy at that time on the market. Only LeBron and he wasn't available.
@melvincarter9640
Жыл бұрын
@@diegobromfield either one of those line up would have beaten the Warriors dude. LeBron , Kobe , Howard , Bosh and CP would have blown the doors off the Warriors.
@melvincarter9640
Жыл бұрын
@@diegobromfield I don't think you know what you're talking about. If the Lakers pulled out that trade things would have been a lot different the Warriors had no answer for a team like that. Hell CP was given the Warriors hell when he was with the Rockets, LeBron was in his prime and so was Bosh, as for Kobe he still was putting up work and so was Howard.
@juliog7519
Жыл бұрын
@@diegobromfield Are you stupid? Prime Kobe and Prime CP3 over steph and klay it's not even a debate.
@LevitheLegend
Жыл бұрын
That makes sense because by that logic that Lakers team would have been ridiculously good for years
@Samsonmanase
Жыл бұрын
As a laker this hurts hearing we could’ve won more then those 2/3 😢
@ChargersCity
Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too foreverm
@AngelPerezComedy
Жыл бұрын
Bynum woulda left and idk if CP and Kobe is enough. Gasol is stupid underrated.
@winssports4830
Жыл бұрын
@@AngelPerezComedy Gasol was old by then and wasn't a difference maker. CP3 would've fed Dwight and kept him happy his been known for making bigs look better than they were and Dwight was a beast.
@OVOChatgpt
Жыл бұрын
Thats all Dr. Buss cared about... He was too savy of an owner, and was good at making deals where no one else thought or saw what was possible
@chinoavila9495
Жыл бұрын
Y’all lakers fans already have like 18 chips y’all don’t need no more lol
@maximanocturnotv7551
Жыл бұрын
Gilbert Arenas explaining anything is satisfying😌
@deyeland
Жыл бұрын
This vetoed trade still upsets me. Jim Buss would have been legendary if that move stuck.
@tpro4853
Жыл бұрын
I think the value of the Hornets without CP3 made a difference to the on league on the sale of the team. That has to factor in at least a portion of it too
@SSJQ456
Жыл бұрын
That is a true statement also. And be that as it may, I recall that being the primary justification used as it was an available one 🤔
@tpro4853
Жыл бұрын
@@SSJQ456 I felt like this wasn't said enough when it happened, but I was younger and might not have caught on to it
@SSJQ456
Жыл бұрын
You know....there's actually a 2X whammy from this salivating transaction.....Dynasty and Destruction resulting in Feast and Famine 🫣🫨🤯🙉
@ATHTSupply
Жыл бұрын
According to Jeanie buss the trade was a done deal, the teams value didn’t matter. When the other owners got wind of basically the “secret negotiations”they were upset because they weren’t able to make their own offers.
@Daveyjdigital
Жыл бұрын
People are forgetting the fact that New Orleans pelicans needed a buyer and trading away CP three would hurt the value that’s why it was Vito
@mathmagic10
Жыл бұрын
but he got traded to the clippers anyway shortly after, what are you talking about.
@Tabooza
Жыл бұрын
The Lakers where going to send Odom who was an all-star and Pau Gasol another all star for cp3 wtf u on lol. Please don't tell me the package the clips sent was better. Their was an agenda in place
@brad7566
Жыл бұрын
The NBA rejected the trade because it was "Paul Gasol" instead of Pau Gasol
@carlcampbell1045
Жыл бұрын
The reason The New Orleans Hornets didn't have an owner is because the previous owner was about to file bankruptcy. If he had done that, it would have devalued every franchise in the NBA. The NBA took over the team to prevent that from happening and it was looking to find someone who would buy the team. The NBA thought that by trading Chris Paul, their best player, the value of the team would decrease and it would hurt the franchise values of the other 29 owners. The trade was vetoed so that any potential buyer would have, at least, one superstar. It was all about money for all the teams. For those who understand, it's like real estate. If someone in my neighborhood sells their house for a cheap price, it will hurt the value of my home.
@michaelmohammed9282
Жыл бұрын
Someone who gets it. That trade was awful for NOLA. "Why wouldn't the NBA want Gasol and Odom on their team?" WTF would the NBA do with that?? Gasol needed kobe, a system and would end up declining physically anyway. Odom LITERALLY lost his mind because he was traded and his career imploded. Can everything that Gil is saying be true on the business end, absolutely. But it wasn't some anti-laker conspiracy. If NOLA was privately owned and the GM made that trade, they'd be fired immediately. It was horrible.
@ilgizmamedov2147
Жыл бұрын
Well it was a 3 team trade and it was CP3 to the Lakers. Kevin Martin (avging 23ppg) Odom, Luis scola (avging 18ppg), and a young dragic to the hornets. Pau and a first and 2nd pick to the rockets. The hornets are literally winning this whole trade.
@tellmesomthin12
Жыл бұрын
Then why did Cp get traded to clippers a little bit after that
@Giants4Life
Жыл бұрын
@@ilgizmamedov2147 if you lose the best player in any trade, you automatically lose that trade. That’s how it works.
@rossejera1661
Жыл бұрын
@@tellmesomthin12 man you need to think. Look what they got in return. Bunch of young top picks for cheaps and a future top pick. Better deal than LAL
@dlakerguy
Жыл бұрын
Even if the rest didn't happen the way Arenas is stating. Lakers would have had a still prime Kobe with a prime CP3 and Howard. This easily cost the Lakers and Kobe at least 1 more title. Having those players would have reduced the pressure on Kobe and likely never would have ruptured his achilles which destroyed the last 3 years of his career.
@andrecallender9437
Жыл бұрын
i thought i also remember seeing something about Stern, the league, who were running the New Orleans team at the time and other owners wanting to stick it to Chris Paul who was the NBPA president at the time and obviously got the players more money.
@marby.
Жыл бұрын
Each owner owned 1/29th of the Pelicans at the time. Dan Gilbert and Cuban led the "No" charge. The thing is that this was the first major deal after the lockout, which was all about smaller markets getting their talent poached by bigger markets. I think the timing of it is what did them in ultimately.
@TheMassiveGamer
Жыл бұрын
There were a lot of factors, but the main reason was because the League didn't want to witness the possible reemergence of the Khan Dynasty😂
@franciscojimenez7192
Жыл бұрын
Gilbert is literally talking himself into history at this point.
@eliahfloyd3429
Жыл бұрын
That trade changed Kobe’s career, because we had to settle for Nash who got hurt and Dwight who it seemed didn’t fit. Which caused Kobe to play the most min in the league and try to get to the playoffs thus causing his injury
@pettyjones
Жыл бұрын
You are skipping the front office picking dantoni over Phil Jackson
@melvynsngltn27
Жыл бұрын
Ball hogging
@ralphharris4062
Жыл бұрын
The politics of the NBA were evident when this possible trade could of happened .
@geraldofaldo4905
Жыл бұрын
This gets more painful each time I hear about it again. You think you can get over these things.... 😂😞
@cashondeliver
Жыл бұрын
If they had that many stars kobe probably wouldnt have gotten hurt n played longer
@alexist7245
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mnh9erl688
Жыл бұрын
bro heat check’s interviewing gilbert arenas? bros come a long way, congratulations to you
@Mack_Worlds_Media
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like NBA Live 10 with the trade decline setting off 😭😭
@uxaskhan
Жыл бұрын
What happened is they didn't want the lakers to continue winning titles they wanted to see some variety some mix up in the contention. Unfortunately kobe paid the price could have had 6 or 7 rings. Kobe also paid the price in mvp due to the Colorado incident bc anybody who knows anything know mvp has never went to the best player of most valuable player of the season it went based on politics and an assemblence of those things.
@darkmanx2g
Жыл бұрын
You're way off.
@sibleywarrior07
Жыл бұрын
The only thing I don't necessarily agree on is the 2 max players starting at 12 million. When the Heat got their big 3 I'm pretty sure all three started at 18-20 million the first year of the deals. But, still a CP3, Kobe, LBJ and Dwight would have been terrifying.
@dexterpolk2276
Жыл бұрын
He really wasn't saying they were going to go get lebron and Bosh he was just saying they would have had a lot more money to spend they would have use that money roll players I did here Kobe say one time if the Paul trade would happen it was going to clear up a lot of cap space he didn't go into detail how
@michaelbaez9164
Жыл бұрын
No. They all took less to team up. Bron was at 12-13 million starting and that wasn’t much less than max back then
@sibleywarrior07
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbaez9164 I'm pretty sure he was closer to 15 starting. Maybe 18 is the average I was thinking of.
@jimmyconway6080
Жыл бұрын
LeBron and Bosh signed 6 year $110 million dollar deals. Starting at $14.5 million with a opt out clause after 5 years. Wade took a little less. It’s crazy cause a little more than 10 years after they signed those deals those same max contracts are more than double with 5 years.
@marcusdurant6446
Жыл бұрын
If I see Kobe, Chris Paul & Dwight, I'd gladly take 1-3 million less to create a dynasty easy.
@jamiebell1437
Жыл бұрын
Finally somebody fully explained it… ✊🏾❤️
@eabruin15
Жыл бұрын
Definitely a heartbreaking situation bc Kobe was still top on the league. As a die hard lakers fan I was really angry. This is coming from a guy that can wear lakers jackets 7 days a week and lakers hats.
@TheIdan2108
Жыл бұрын
Bynum pre trade waw amazing
@ThatCreoleMan
Жыл бұрын
He lost me when he said "Do you need Kobe at that point"
@mmmmmmmmmmmmfood
Жыл бұрын
Do you tho? That team winning regardless, it's just next level with kobe on it
@royhobbs5167
Жыл бұрын
That would've been the nastiest team ever. CRAZY talent.
@JosemiPR
Жыл бұрын
Cuban is GOATED for that hahahaha
@wise1beats
Жыл бұрын
Bro, imagine Kobe with 6-8 rings 😭
@jamesfrancois1727
Жыл бұрын
Kobe had his chances. He's been to 7 finals . He just didn't capitalize on his opportunities and end up with a 5-2 finals record. Its noone else fault but his....
@lilt1482
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesfrancois1727 you say that like his record is negative or something his won 5 outta 7 that's damn good if you ask me
@jamesfrancois1727
Жыл бұрын
Sure it's positive, more than 70% winning percentage. He's one of the GOATS. What I am saying is that fans are complaining that David Stern stop Kobe from winning more than 5 ships because he blocked the Chris Paul trade. That's a false narrative because the late great Kobe was in the finals 7 times, it was just unfortunate he didn't win it all. Therefore they need to stop blaming other people if he didn't win more than 5. But he's still in my top 5 above LBJ....
@lamar1990lg
Жыл бұрын
Nba didn't want Kobe to tie or surpass Jordan LeBron was still ringless History was tainted CP3 was projected the next Isiah Thomas that backcourt was scary of Kobe and CP3 they never lost a Allstar Game the NBA also destroyed Jim Buss future legacy Jerry Buss never gave his daughter Jeanie ownership of the team everything was disgusting from that veto!
@davidl242
Жыл бұрын
His math doesn’t make sense at all, 12mil doesn’t get you a Lebron or Bosh unless they want to take the absolute minimum value. If they did get CP and DH, that 24m can get them a few shooters at best. It would have been a dominant team on paper but we saw what the 2012 Lakers were and those trades fcked the Lakers up for a decade.
@yw3178
Жыл бұрын
Go look at their contract in 2010-2011. Lebron and bosh salary was 14.5m while in Miami heat. U think one wouldn’t be tempted to take a 2.5m pay cut to play with cp3 kobe and Howard? So it’s totally possible if they aren’t in the heat already.
@yw3178
Жыл бұрын
The 2012 lakers was a fiasco because most of them were in their last legs and past prime. Now imagine that lakers with 2 more young super stars joining kobe Howard and cp3/Nash lol. And like Gilbert said when kobe contract was over, they have another 24m over. They could fill that void with another young superstar. Lakers would most likely dominate the 2010s.
@davidl242
Жыл бұрын
@@yw3178 they both signed multi year deals north of 110m, i think the math worked out to roughly 18-19 mil per year. Might be a little less early but thats just more cap penalty in later years. On top of that you would need to restructure both Kobe and Howard’s contract otherwise that luxury tax bill will be through the roof.
@Derrickpaul5380
Жыл бұрын
@@yw3178 you forgot that lebron was more worried about his legacy in 2011. Him joining the lakers would destroy that.
@tonybiggs.the.illiest
Жыл бұрын
@@davidl242 nope they all played for 16 million (wade, bron, bosh)..
@emmapeel38
Жыл бұрын
Arenas is making this up. I don't doubt he heard elements of this, but the way he laid it out, he's so full of it. I'm not a Kobe fan, but there's zero chance Kobe would have wanted a team with that many stars on it; he barely wanted the '12 version with Howard, Pau, and Nash.
@glenwilson9533
Жыл бұрын
Good Rain Consulting Firm
@bluntsify
Жыл бұрын
We would have brought kobe back regardless
@NMG_OnTheTrack
Жыл бұрын
Literally!! Idk what dude smoking
@flight_knight_
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a lotta cap from Gilbert
@BlackDotLiving
Жыл бұрын
When David Stern blocked that trade I knew the ENTIRE LEAGUE did not want Kobe to win AT ALL still mad about that trade not happing
@garse70
Жыл бұрын
As a Laker fan, I liked the idea of bringing Paul to LA, but not at the expense of giving up Odom too. Odom was a team player and great defender. He also could play all five positions. He was a key component in winning those two titles. However, if the trade went thru, the Lakers might have 19-20 titles, instead of 17.
@NewBtheonly33
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't even stay sober TRASH TAKE
@extreame7304
Жыл бұрын
Kobe and Paul were going to win rings with Kobe. Hate on Kobe was crazy
@Native722
Жыл бұрын
True True he won nothing with the clippers
@coreygarnett5826
Жыл бұрын
Gilbert is ALWAYS their but NEVER THEIR.
@mcmerry2846
Жыл бұрын
The reason: David Stern wanted to give a ring to LeBron
@yyyl7yl
Жыл бұрын
I knew it was more than da NBA was letting on.. they didn't want a super team! Now that's all we have.. this is a testimony of how GREAT Kobe was! They KNEW not to make that trade, Kobe woulda had rings on rings!
@sportsmoneymusicpodcast
Жыл бұрын
NBA didnt want Kobe to pass MJ 6 titles... they would've won at least 2 together. Shit still pisses me off
@SkyWalka4
Жыл бұрын
They didn’t want Kobe surpassing MJ
@jondough3911
Жыл бұрын
I feel like if this trade would of happened Kobe would still be alive 😢
@cincinnatias
Жыл бұрын
One of the most uneducated things that I have ever read. If it would have rained last week, then henry cavill would still be playing as superman🤦
@Milehigh_
Жыл бұрын
@@cincinnatias lol
@Jaytatum_stepback0
Жыл бұрын
Paul ain’t never getting a ring lol
@Cobratate723
Жыл бұрын
Cap
@omcritzy
Жыл бұрын
Paul And Kobe would be a deadly duo assuming they make the playoffs due to Kobe injuries, hell it might have reduced kobes injuries who knows. Then you add a younger star or a star under 30, Kobe might've had 7 rings
@SMG_Clips
Жыл бұрын
How can a team negotiate a contract without an owner? Story sounds fishy.
@Do2MuchACE
Жыл бұрын
The world need to hear this
@archiebunker2470
Жыл бұрын
Gilbert spreading the love
@Robinhudloom
Жыл бұрын
Non sense, he is saying 2 max for 24 mil lol. Mike conley’s contract that time was 30m a yr. And lebron and bosh signed for 18m a year. This guy want to he relevant.
@robburt1512
Жыл бұрын
They would’ve taken a pay cut to play together obviously if lebron was only making 6 million more he would of been fine making less to play with that team in theory
@ChanGardeningToolPark
Жыл бұрын
@Rob Burt Gil always exaggerates everything. He said with Kobes $24 mil contact they could sign 2 Max players, but for $24 mil, they got 1, kobe? His numbers don't add up, teams didn't have 4 max contracts on a team. Best teams had 2-3 and mediocre benches
@daanishgupta
Жыл бұрын
Not a reach. Conley's contract was bad even back then. It was necessary because small markets could not keep stars.
@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701
Жыл бұрын
@@ChanGardeningToolPark They could have technically done it, i doubt it would have happened though. After the new cba teams would not want to go that far over the cap but before it was not as big of an issue. That cba actually destroyed the last of the "big market/small market" differences. I will however give him some credit for briefly mentioning other GMs and owners involvement in the decision to reject the trade proposal. Most people don't realize it was a league decision and not just David Stern.
@Steamedhams578
Жыл бұрын
Mike Conley 30m a year? Wtf you smoking he was on 8mil a year in 2011 you people just be making up shit
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