Always good to see Dr. rivers doing gun surgery on one of his guns! The good news is the surgery was successful!
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
LOL!
@edwardabrams4972
Жыл бұрын
I had the same thing happen on my Winchester 30 years ago after letting my brother in law borrow my 270 and he took it hunting on the coast and it rained for days! I took it to a gunsmith who was a master wood worker and he fixed the stick but it took him months to repair then bed the stock again and it shot as good as the day I bought it new! Great video as always my friend! I have 2 mausers in shop right now getting new Boyd’s stocks and looking for to shooting them as you are on your rifle!
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
I hope they turn out great!
@leeadams5941
Жыл бұрын
Very good video, precise and to the point. Well explained and understandable. Now, let's see it shoot. Very glad Ms. River is doing well, have a great week and God Bless
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Lee!
@robertbessette8592
Жыл бұрын
Tom this a very good video on bedding. If I could just say one thing it would be to just slide the follower spring out of the floor plate so it is not in your way.the bedding was just exactly like the factory stock you must have been very pleased. So happy to hear your wife is mending well and will be keeping her in my prayers. Be safe and live free. Have a joyous new year tom
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert, and I was thinking the same thing on the follower spring but this one had a really big indent mark in it and it didn't want to come loose for anything. So I finally just left it on there.
@bentaylor216
Жыл бұрын
It's lovely to see a 7x57 in good hands. I love shooting mine (especially as it was left to me by my father in law). Thanks for another informative video. Love the channel.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed Ben. I don't think there's a better cartridge out there for just normal deer hunting than the 7x57?
@russellkeeling4387
Жыл бұрын
I also am a fan of the 7x57. I now own two custom rifles in that caliber though I had one stamped .275 Rigby. The two largest elk I've harvested in my lifetime where taken with my 7x57.
@russellkeeling4387
Жыл бұрын
I very much enjoy your down to earth direction and explanations.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Russell
@jstrunck
Жыл бұрын
Looks great! I can’t wait to see the range results!
@CB-ck6ze
Жыл бұрын
I just bedded a Remington 700 last month. It was my first try and turned out pretty good! I went back and forth on what release agent I was going to use. Multiple people suggested Hornady One Shot case lube. I already had it on the bench, and it worked great! It laid a nice smooth coat. I used grey Marine Tex with modeling clay to plug all my holes.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
I've heard One Shot works great also. And I've also heard that the Marine Tex is about as good as it gets for bedding epoxy?
@CB-ck6ze
Жыл бұрын
I have nothing to compare the Marine Tex to, but it was very easy to work with. I got the little 2oz kit, so the epoxy/hardener ratio wasn’t something I had to worry about getting right(you just use it all). Very good consistency. I bedded the front, sides and tang area of the action and it stayed right where I wanted it. Easily cleaned up what oozed out with some alcohol and Q-tips. I’m thinking about using JB weld on a cheaper rifle to see how that does in comparison.
@alanmeyers3957
10 ай бұрын
@@CB-ck6zejb works but it has a tendency to flow out, keep that in mind if you try it.
@tomsimpson5295
10 ай бұрын
Just ran across this video and thought I would mention this for the record: Around 1990 or so, I glassed a then-new pushfeed M70 varmint in .223 into its factory walnut for a customer using methodology similar to what is demonstrated here, including the tape on the front of the recoil lug, two thicknesses IIRC. Problem was, this particular receiver had a nasty backwards bevel on the rear face of the recoil lug so that even with the tape on the front, it still developed a mechanical lock. I was using Marine-Tex, which has no appreciable give to it once fully cured. Destroyed the stock getting the action back out and had to buy the guy a brand-new stock. So, be advised that on some M70 receivers, you may have to make a pass on the back face of the recoil lug with an end mill or such to square it up lest you suffer my fate...
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that Tom! It is interesting the stuff we can run into. On this one the barrel was still touching the on the forend after I removed the tape and put it back together. I think what happened was the stock had a bow in it and the pressure on the reciever was great enough that it flexed the forend and took the bow out but then when I removed the tape the wood just flexed back into place touching the barrel? Thankfully I didn't have to explain that to a customer or replace his stock!
@glockky1
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. My model 70 stainless featherweight in 270 should be here next week. Love them Winchester rifles. Keep up the great work.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TherealBartcephus
Жыл бұрын
Another great video, and again very informative and using terminology that us regular folks can understand, thank you sir!
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you liked it Bartcephus!
@wizardofahhhs759
Ай бұрын
The Winchester Model 70 is the greatest deer rifle ever made.
@BigT27295
Жыл бұрын
Great job Mr. River. Hard to beat a 7x57.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Big T!
@dantyack1059
Жыл бұрын
First off.. I love your videos and the range days and the guests and guns that you work with on your channel.. I am a mechanic by trade but i have been a “hobby gunsmith “ for the past 30 years or so.. the first rifle I built for myself was a 03/A3 that i put in a tang safety ruger 77 stock and it looked and shot awesome! Then a mauser 98 that i re-barreled to a .270 winchester and bedded it into a short action remington synthetic stock which became my go-to hunting rifle for over 10 years.. anyway.. I have bedded a lot of rifles in the past 30 or so years and several steps I do a lot like you.. but.. If I were to bed that winchester model 70 I would use a long stud as the front action screw without tightening it in the stock at all then i would use a stud to plug that rear blind hole and have a makeshift way to tighten it down in the stock (a remington ADL trigger guard works good for this)with some kind of nut-spacer setup…. then with the rear action screw (stud) tightened to have the action correctly seated in the stock use your black tape to tape the barrel in place exactly where you wrapped the tape around the barrel to center it in the stock.. then let it dry.. this way the front of the action will “ float” and when the bedding compound dries it will come out perfect…you have to do it a bit different for pillars but this type of simple bedding usually has great results.. …you don’t want to do anything that puts the barrel or action in a bind so no tape or clamps on the action at all and no tension from the front action screw (just a long stud to keep the hole clear and straight) at all when setting up..
@rossthompson2471
2 ай бұрын
Nice step by step vid!
@brianlee6849
Жыл бұрын
Very nice 👍. I'm patiently waiting for the range session. I like the 7x57 or 275 Rigby. I think I like the 275 Rigby name better. It's still a very relevant cartridge at 131 years old and the grandfather to many cartridges that we still shoot today. Thank you 👍
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
And if this one shoots half as good as it did when it was new I'll be ecstatic with it. This rifle was a real tack drive until the old stock started warping. And I have to say I think 275 Rigby sounds better also!
@brianlee6849
Жыл бұрын
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving Nice 👍. Good luck with it.
@Darryl792
Жыл бұрын
Good video. I've always wondered how glass bedding was done. Very interesting. 🙂
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it DK.
@freddyvice8822
Жыл бұрын
Your videos are great
@cbsbass4142
Жыл бұрын
I think I'm gonna go to an upper extreme and load some 175 gr Grand Slams (mainly because I found a supply nobody else wanted) for mine to see how they'll group. Not going back to the range though until I got a warm day. Best I've done lately is waiting on a .222 barrel from Shaw for a build, and got some propane to start annealing my brass with a torch. Brass is so hard to find in some calibers, I have little choice. Everyone here has been under the weather with flu. Will look forward to your range trip.
@chipsterb4946
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: roll pins are intended to be one-time use items. I did not know this for a long time but it makes sense once you think about it. This may not be as important for that trigger housing roll pin as it is for the gas block or ejector roll pins in an AR but it’s worth considering IMHO.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
11 ай бұрын
I recently heard that same thing about roll pins. I'm sure it won't matter for this but I agree it could for some application.
@cervus-venator
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom, this is really going to help me with my upcoming 2023 project. I'm kind of in a quandary however. I'm changing a synthetic stock rifle over to a nice wood stock. The current synthetic stock has been bedded and free floated. I shot the rifle for the first time last week and it is very accurate so now I have some trepidation of "Change" due to the old saying of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". What I'm thinking is that I can always go back to the original synthetic stock if I need to and that I should be able to fit the new stock just as well as the original so long as it isn't warped. I don't think it is as it looks really good. As always, thanks for the information!! Glad to hear the wife is doing well also. 🙏🏼for her speedy recovery.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Your thinking sounds good to me Cervus, you can always go back to the synthetic.
@mickeymouse9654
Жыл бұрын
Nice job! I can't wait to see the groups! 😃👍
@MrGuitars8
11 ай бұрын
I would love to do that to mine also . I am blessed that my barrel is already Freefloated also .
@russellparrish5745
Жыл бұрын
Glad Mrs. River's surgery went well. God bless
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Russell!
@roddecker1900
Жыл бұрын
Here's hoping I see good groups . Allways get thru your program with somthing gained.enjoy 70 too 🦬🦬🦬🐎
@ejsocci2630
Жыл бұрын
Awesome and I enjoy watching your videos.
@brokespoke5424
Жыл бұрын
I love this channel.
@kilekinney253
Жыл бұрын
glad you said there are many ways to bed a stock I like pillar bedding
@HikeHuntHaul
7 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing.
@tomlarue654
Жыл бұрын
Anxious to see the upcoming range video. Best wishes to you and your wife.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom, and I'm anxious as well!
@kencurtis508
6 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing.
@k9six185
7 ай бұрын
Just picked up a 1974 model 70 in 30.06….and I plan on bedding it
@michaelwilson9986
Жыл бұрын
Ah Yes the ol 7x57..my favorite although so is the 1 been using more often than not n its being is largely due to the 7x57. The ol 06. Looking fwd to see how yours dose at the range
@apriliaguy4life198
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@tomcumby9045
6 ай бұрын
good show very good explainng
@308guy8
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see how it shoots
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
I can't either!
@leonharris1329
Жыл бұрын
Tom are you ok missed you
@freddyvice8822
Жыл бұрын
Robert please do a video on pillow and glass bedding a Sako 75 and 85 thanks
@dukeman7595
Жыл бұрын
Is the barrel free floating back to the action? Enjoyed this video, so much I subscribed. Looking forward to watching many more.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
11 ай бұрын
It's really close to the action with about 1/8 of an inch touching the barrel.
@louiskiser9989
5 ай бұрын
Prayers for Mrs Rivers
@dantyack1059
Жыл бұрын
thanks for producing a basic video on a fairly simple process that does a lot to improve the accuracy of a rifle! with that being said i have a couple questions and possibly a couple suggestions on your process…. do you have an e-mail address to communicate on? i didn’t know if you wanted me to make suggestions in the comments..
@sandybarnett7502
Жыл бұрын
Tom, I use JBweld and vaseline
@keithbelz2952
Жыл бұрын
I use mink oil for leather as a release agent, and yup jb weld two part epoxy
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
The JB definitely works great. And I've also heard the Hornady One Shot Lube works great to as a release agent.
@ArkansasBadBoy
Жыл бұрын
This is actually the most cost-effective combo. Little trick I do is to use a syringe for applying the JB Weld. I also spray some Remoil on everything coated with Vaseline just before dropping the action into the stock and it works remarkably well in making sure nothing sticks.
@dalanwanbdiska6542
Жыл бұрын
I have my norinco jw 105 im thinking of bedding. Its already freefloated . I think it could use a bedding job. So it stays in the middle of the stock. No sides touc hing
@djl0fne
2 ай бұрын
What torque value did u use for the action screws ?
@jaybailleaux630
Жыл бұрын
I bed much like you do. One thing I do is use old action screws with the heads cut off and cut a slot in them wit a hack saw so I can use a flat tip screw driver . I screw them into the action to use as guide pins when placing the barreled action into the stock. I rarely have to drill out action screw holes in the stock. I put one layer of tape on the screws and coat with shoe wax. I also coat the screw holes in the stock with wax.. After epoxy is cured I normally am abel to unscrew them if not I turn the rifle upside down and hammer with a punch. It releases the barreled action from the stock. I get a well fitted centered bedding job that is as stress free as humanly possible.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea with the old action screws.
@tannerrogers5043
4 ай бұрын
What’s the drill bit size for the rear action screw hole ?
@wilmamcdermott3065
Жыл бұрын
Mine was glass bedded from the factory
@wilmamcdermott3065
Жыл бұрын
Have a 7mm mauser in a brno butter knife
@endutubecensorship
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, could you use wood clamps on the front and rear instead of the bottom metal/action screws?
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you could with a 2 point bedding like this. My guess is the tape or tubing was used for bedding the entire action? And everyone just kept using it. I just hate to change from how things were always done until I understand exactly why they were done that way and I don't know exactly why yet on this. But that is my guess.
@endutubecensorship
Жыл бұрын
@@TomRiverSimpleLivingThanks for your reply Tom! I agree, no reason to change unless you understand why. The concern is epoxy getting into threads/lug recesses and if someone can avoid using action screws it might prevent complications.
@jeffmurphy9987
5 ай бұрын
Question why put tape on the recoil lug I thought that was a big reason for bedding is to have the lug tight as possible.
@robertboyd3863
2 ай бұрын
All I have watched , done as he did.
@billemshoff9335
Жыл бұрын
I need some black dye like that, Where did you get it or what is the name? Can I get it at the craft store or hardware store? Great video.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Bill, you should be able to get some from a craft store no problem, but I ordered mine from Amazon.
@jimguthrie1583
Жыл бұрын
What type of dye did you use with your epoxy? Wondering if I can use a drop of brown leather dye with my acra glass.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Jim, I just bought some black dye from Amazon but a lot of the kits now are coming with brown and black including the acraglass now. But as to how leather die would work I have no idea?
@scottscheuerman6170
Жыл бұрын
Hey Tom where did you get your stud’s for your model 70
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
Жыл бұрын
Scott I'm pretty sure I got them from Midway USA and if it wasn't from them then it was Brownells. I use both and I get mixed up on what I bought where!
@highdesertutah
Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t putting tape on the recoil lug leave a gap and defeat the purpose of bedding in that area? Can you go without tape on the lug and just make sure you have it well lubed?
@user-me3er7lm1o
7 ай бұрын
Actually Tom did it correctly. Picture the action recoil lug sitting in the recoil keyway of the stock. The rifle fires, the action/barrel move rearward. The stock wants to remain stationary. The recoil lug rear surface needs to be tight up against the rear of the stock’s recoil keyway so it doesn’t hammer the stock’s keyway and damage it. The space created by the tape on the front surface of the recoil lug, once its removed, provides clearance so the recoil lug won’t chip or shave the bedding epoxy upon assembly and disassembly. Another way to look at this is from the scope mounting perspective. Every scope manufacturer instructs the owner to push the scope forward until the front of the recoil cross pin contacts the front of the picatinny rail slot. Again, the rifle fires. The action/barrel moves rearward. The scope wants to remain stationary. The front of the recoil cross pin will contact the front of the Picatinny rail slot. If the clearance was at the front it would allow the cross pin to hammer the front of the Pic rail slot.
@zacg5822
26 күн бұрын
Just bought a new one, the bedding was terrible, looks like they took a grinder to it to remove the access, the barrel rubbed hard against the left side of the stock with a quarter inch gap on the right. Terrible craftsmanship. Had better quality out of budget rifles
@freddyvice8822
Жыл бұрын
Sorry Tom I got your name wrong
@dextercampbell942
11 ай бұрын
What year? Totally useless.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
11 ай бұрын
2013, and why useless?
@robertboyd3863
2 ай бұрын
Are you some kind of an idiot ?
@tonysambar
Жыл бұрын
Electrical tape works best on the recoil lug and normally doesn't come off.👍
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