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@pimscrypt
3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched Kobra Kai yet, but after everything I’ve heard about the show I’m really glad that it’s one of the rare cases where a continuation of an old 80s property does something that actually justifies its existence - apart from just being commodification of nostalgia. The original film seems to be a very good piece of media to dissect in retrospect, in regards to how it portrays masculinity. I’m glad that the showrunners thought the same, and made something that a lot of could learn from.
@ronburgundy244
3 жыл бұрын
I don't want to be that guy but the Cobra has a C not a K.
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly no one was more surprised than me that the show ended up having messages about the perils of violence etc. I 100% would never have even watched the show if I hadn't accidentally caught some of it while my bf (the actual Karate Kid fan in our house) was watching. It completely snuck up on me.
@Sithishe
2 жыл бұрын
@@PixelaDay Kobra Kai hasnt ended, newest season that released about a month ago is amazing, and they also made some crazy plottwist cleavehanger for the future season. So Kobra Kai (as a show) truly never dies. Still being the best franchise continuation, because it shows respect to source material, and to the fans of source material. Also redemption arc of Hawk is the best, going from bullied kid, to a bully, to a redeemed champion.
@bebewallaby2175
2 жыл бұрын
I know this is from a year ago but this video is the first... well anything really, that I've seen that actually defines toxic masculinity as something more than just delusional arrogance, which can be seen in females also like the stereotypical Karens. Thank you for talking about the differences on men and women and how they handle friendships. I've heard or heard mention of a lot of extreme modern feminists talk about how men and women are equal mentally and biologically, which is both untrue and goes against the original feminism movement. As someone born in the early 2000's the most I've seen about the 70's, 80's, and 90's is just the nostalgia filled media about those times, so hearing you talk about from a different perspective was rather enlightening to me. Thanks for the wonderful video I'll be sure to check out more of yours. Edit: Also I just found your channel from Adam Millard's video on fishing mini-games.
@PixelaDay
2 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend Pop Culture Detective - he’s got a vid on toxic masculinity that is straight-forward, enlightening and very common sense. Actually all his stuff is!
@luisbo3
2 жыл бұрын
This was amazing, youre criminally underrated
@kanalkucker14
Жыл бұрын
A really great video, Kat!!!
@MattyStoked
3 жыл бұрын
This came out so great. Some great ideas and something which is obviously working its way into writer's circles and (hopefully) the zeitgeist in general. Really great video, Kat!
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt! 😊
@pimacs
2 жыл бұрын
I finished Cobra Kai recently and was searching for a video about the representation of masculinity in it. Thanks for the very nice video!
@PixelaDay
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear I could fill a niche 😊 Thanks for your comments!
@Darkfry
3 жыл бұрын
Super glad you went for this video in the end, amazing job! Talk about whatever you like, the videos will be great either way
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
Aw thanks Dark 😁
@caseykoons
3 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel, it's now on my top five.
@iamerror
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I had similar feelings about Johnny when watching Cobra Kai. He's like toxic masculinity in a redeemable vessel.
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
OK I just saw this comment but thank you! God I love Johnny's character so much.
@subprogram32
3 жыл бұрын
Finally got round to watching this! I haven't watched either of these shows, or indeed tv in general this last year, but your video deffo demonstrated the value of these shows to me, and the cool stuff they do with going beyond just pandering to the desire for 80's nostalgia. After all, isn't confronting the problematic aspects of 80's gender roles, and the effect 80's society had on people, in some ways more truly faithful than unconflicted nostalgia stories? It lets people know at least a bit how the 80's truly were, for better and for worse. And I think that can stick with people far longer than lighter, less self-examining stories can. Another great video of yours, very well done! :D
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 I agree and I really think both shows perfectly walk that line between nostalgia and critique. Check em out some time!
@Arcadology
3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! It’s a shame we won’t get to see how GLOW ultimately resolves but the analysis of it was fantastic.
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you liked it!
@Scottpie47
2 жыл бұрын
This was really exceptional, great work!
@BrettLamb
3 жыл бұрын
This is such a wonderful video essay…thank you!
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
No, thank you! 😊
@NunSuperior
3 жыл бұрын
Holy cats this was fantastic! PATREONED! I'm a kid of the 80's who literally grew up in the location depicted in these shows. It was great to see them turn the nostalgia around on itself, not just use it as a plot point. Stranger Things should take note. It's a shame GLOW was cancelled. Too soon. And yes, AIDS screwed up that decade not unlike COVID is doing now.
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! I'm so glad you liked it :) I agree about Stranger Things, I thought it did do some clever things with tropes/expectations in season 1, but then it seemed to get lazy in seasons 2 and 3. Bit of a shame.
@eirianrobotto
Ай бұрын
I love neon. Anyways, i enjoyed this video.
@thedrellum
3 жыл бұрын
This was a great episode.
@Proctor_Conley
2 жыл бұрын
This was great! Thank you!
@PixelaDay
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! 🤗
@somethingventured3
3 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, is Cobra Kai good??
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
Oh shit it might be!!
@tymotekaitis3872
3 жыл бұрын
It is:)
@ivsndripz5202
3 жыл бұрын
When he means by treat them like crap he means by ignoring them. Not actually hurting them. This makes them follow you around and when they usually o that they have a interest in you.
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
I believe you may have confused women with dogs
@ivsndripz5202
3 жыл бұрын
I never expected you to reply
@ivsndripz5202
3 жыл бұрын
@@PixelaDay just notice that he is giving him advice to his school crush not his co worker :/. And yes I know what your gonna say,” he is gonna take that to heart, and use it on all the other women he meets”.
@ZedAmadeus
2 жыл бұрын
@@ivsndripz5202 Bro. I can't even rn xD I mean, you're... a caricature-- the perfect example of someone who says their not sexist, because they believe their gross musings about the behaviour of women are some... inarguable truth people are too scared to talk about nowadays, that we've _all become too PC to call a spade a spade!_
@ivsndripz5202
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZedAmadeus give me rent.
@LiveHedgehog
3 жыл бұрын
You're twisting the timeline and scenes of Cobra Kai a bit to fit the message you want to send. To someone who hasn't seen it, they won't realise. But I've watched it a few times now and you're being very facetious here. The standout bit is when you attribute Johnny's change of attitude to the school fight, when really it happens an entire season earlier (after his 'macho' students unfairly attack his own son in a tournament). It's also made clear in S2E1 that he doesn't like the 'No Mercy' line, and in episode 7 he kicks Kreese out after he sees what a bad influence Kreese was being on the kids.
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
Your criticisms of my video seem to be that I showed one scene to demonstrate a point when there were other, earlier scenes I also could have shown. I mean, character arcs take place across multiple seasons, so...OK?
@LiveHedgehog
3 жыл бұрын
@@PixelaDay No, my criticisms are that you misrepresent everything and put scenes in the wrong context in order to stretch to your predetermined point. I've noticed you seem to disregard what people say in their comments if they're not immediately positive - stop that.
@brutallyhonest123
3 жыл бұрын
@@LiveHedgehog thank you for trying to inject some reality into the conversation.
@gilgamesh310
3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with a few things here. Gender roles can be good and bad, but a lot of them are there for survival purposes since cavemen times. While I can see why it would be bad how Johnny talks about women at first, the fact is most women do like bad boys or the equivalent and won’t go for the weaker, less assertive kind. Obviously there’s exceptions but the more ‘alpha’ kind are what caused the species to flourish throughout the ages and is still important to a degree. I can say from my own experiences, that being nice only gets you so far. Secondly, being hard and headstrong, is necessary to fight wars and defend against attackers. It’s less relevant now obviously, but if a war comes, it’s definitely no place for softies. Ive attacked on the street, it won’t do you much good either. You can’t show mercy or you’re fucked. I’ve listened to war stories from veterans and they’ve talked about how the weaker kind were driven mad during Vietnam and such. Some even killed themselves during boot camp because the drill instructors were too hard on them. So that tagline for the dojo in Cobra Kai does make sense under certain circumstances. With Crease, I think there’s a whole other discussion that could be had on how he never managed to leave what he learned in the army behind. Something else common among vets, is that they end up going back to war because they can’t stand how regular people constantly complain about trivial stuff and need to go back and experience the stuff that really matters. But that’s a while different topic. In any case, I liked the video and you did a good job of pointing out the character arc Johnny went through and what makes him such a compelling character. I haven’t seen Glow, so I can’t really comment much about that but I did think some of the comparisons were interesting.
@PixelaDay
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments. Of course I think the “most women like bad boys” is red pill nonsense and a rather insulting view to take of women. And what you miss in the war example is that Vietnam was an unnecessary war, as were most of the wars the US has gotten itself into - exactly because of the macho arrogance of the military (which Kreese represents). If we value violence we only perpetuate it. You might not agree with this message, but it is pretty clearly the core message of the show.
@gilgamesh310
3 жыл бұрын
@@PixelaDay You may think that but general accounts show it to be pretty true. I don't want it to be true, but it is what it is. Regarding the Vietnam war, you're completely wrong regarding the military. It's the politicians that were the arrogant assholes, not the military. This applies to most wars the US was involved with. There were 18 and 19 year old boys conscripted in that war that wanted to be anywhere else, but they struggled through the situations they were put in it anyway and faced their fears and perils. It's perfectly logical to judge the politics of the time, or indeed now, but I don't take kindly to people judging the soldiers placed in positions none of us will have to face. That said, I do still agree with some other points you made. I haven't watched Glow, but I definitely don't think women need to have children or fulfill several of the gender roles you mentioned. I don't even like children. I'm definitely no Stefan Molyneux follower. I just don't like seeing masculinity be undermined, when there's a lot of good to come from it.
@Arcadology
3 жыл бұрын
@@LiveHedgehog hey so, why don’t you just get the fuck off her channel instead of being a condescending prick. There is my advice.
@brutallyhonest123
3 жыл бұрын
@@PixelaDay you can’t explain away an argument for natural selection with a Matrix reference.
@ZedAmadeus
2 жыл бұрын
@@LiveHedgehog I love how assertive and confident you are when you're correcting women about what most women like. :D
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