Thanks for this! I'm about to use Richlite for the first time for a fretboard. Your videos on the matter are very helpful!
@TexasToastGuitars
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Ryan glad you are enjoying the videos
@dionfred8855
4 жыл бұрын
It was the content that drew me to your channel as I build my first guitar but it’s the humor and attitude that keeps me coming back ,thank you and your team for all the excellent trade tips but mostly thank you for the distraction during these concerning times ( I build airplanes for a living and the tool you are using is referred to as a push-pull gauge ).
@andreaskunze8558
3 жыл бұрын
That was great!! Thanks a lot for testing and sharing!! Its really helpful
@budandbean1
7 жыл бұрын
Pretty damn impressive example of gluing ritchlite. Thank for the test.
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man, I don't know how much information is out there about this kinda thing. My other Richlite videos were pretty well received so I thought I would see if I could build on that.
@lubomirmazal9693
7 ай бұрын
Thanks very educational. I am curious about contraction/ expansion properties , stability of joint when applied to different type of woood / guitar tops aso….
@jvin248
7 жыл бұрын
Good run at testing the Richlite! Hammer impact as you've seen imparts a much larger force than pushing alone. Good job keeping all the pieces the same size and loads there. Improvement would be trying an arbor press with a load cell/scale of some sort. The other option would be to glue down your 1inch wide strip over a slot and position a dual action truss rod under it and crank the truss rod to either its failure or fracture of the richlite and glue, might even put a torque wrench on the truss rod to get a reading where it goes wrong. Your impact test broke off material before the adhesive bond fractured so that is a good reveal.
@beardoe6874
7 жыл бұрын
A shear test where you try to twist off the tab would be interesting. You could use a torque wrench with a Crow's foot adapter to have some sort of calibration. It would be interesting to see a similar test of Rosewood with the joint prepared in the normal way with the normal adhesive. That would show us if it's a stronger alternative or questionable.
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have torque wrench, that is a great idea Daniel. I think I have some rosewood bits laying around. Maybe I'll do another round with other woods.
@burp1914
7 жыл бұрын
Your going to need a bigger wrench. Clamp it in a vise, put a cheater pipe over the sample and hang weights on it. Maybe a hammer and wood block test on the 1x1 samples
@void870
3 жыл бұрын
You should try to make a neck completely out of richlite
@TexasToastGuitars
3 жыл бұрын
You should try to build a house completely out of ebony
@kozz1963
7 жыл бұрын
turn the board upside down where the cuts in the richlite are facing the floor and try the a.d.a. gauge again
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
A few people have recommended that I'll try it and see what happens
@texastoastchris
7 жыл бұрын
Didn't you make me throw that "scrap" maple away the other day? Did you dig it out of the wood bin? ;)
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
That sounds like something I would try to do... but you never listen to me about throwing things away... or cutting them in half.
@bobbybob3679
6 жыл бұрын
It was almost pointless but it did show that richlite sticks really well!!. Obviously if u didn't have fret slots cut into your richlite the test might have worked better as they broke at that point and also if you disability pressure guage thing was pushed from the bottom 👍
@dionfred8855
4 жыл бұрын
Lol please don’t ever stop making these videos.
@TexasToastGuitars
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dion
@georgescarlett2320
6 жыл бұрын
I agree with Chris Woods, Seems it would make more sense to try to 'Lift' the Richlite off, rather than press down? In actual use, would one would be more interested in weather they came OFF, or DOWN! Just sayin' Gb bg
@TexasToastGuitars
6 жыл бұрын
I hear ya... I ended up tossing that test board away because I got tired of tripping over it (figuratively speaking). We did push on the pieces sticking out with the ADA gauge the other direction and they all held fine. Of course, it is kind of a moot point since I don't make fretboards that overhang the neck 2 inches. I really wanted to shoot at them wiht my Tac-Ord Remington 700 but I don't have lots of time to go to the range these days. Oh well.
@jefferywarburton2116
4 жыл бұрын
to test this proper you need a y shape stick, a goat, and a three quarter moon. oh man i almost forgot you gotta remove your left shoe first!
@bigvelvetdog
7 жыл бұрын
Try prying them up and see how much force it takes to pop them off.
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
That is a good idea though I don't know how to measure that force, I don't think it would really need to be measured but someone would say I did it wrong hahaha
@bigvelvetdog
7 жыл бұрын
don't worry about measuring it... your opinion is good enough for me. I used epoxy on these every time I build with them which has only been a few times so far. Because I was too chicken to use Tightbond. LOL
@dougdeeper2537
7 жыл бұрын
Soak it in a solution similar to human sweat, then perform the test again. Might have interesting results. : )
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug, can you imagine haw big a container of human type sweat I would need? I'd have to hang around at gyms to collect it all. In the plus column... yoga pants!
@michaelmurray8295
3 жыл бұрын
I press down pretty hard when I bend that b string... I'd probably twist that board right off the neck.
@TexasToastGuitars
3 жыл бұрын
YIKES!
@krustybuzzard2477
7 жыл бұрын
Push on the richlite again but turn the board over so your trying to peal it off. But than again I'd use what ever holds it well enough but is easy to remove for repair purposes.probably wood glue pva.
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
I could do that but as soon as I thought about the 308 Winchester test I lost interest in all the others hahaha
@krustybuzzard2477
7 жыл бұрын
Texas Toast Guitars yea I would too.lmao
@rellikguitars7237
7 жыл бұрын
Hey Mat I've been laying down a deck out back this last week and have been using composite decking boards. This stuff is easy to work with but hard on tools. My drills and saw blades have all lost edges real quick and require constant sharpening. As I am about to embark on making a couple of guitars, I am wondering how you have found the Richlite on tools. Cheers ( how are the Mosrites going ? )
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
Hey Homes, You are right, the Richlite isn't as tool friendly as say maple or even hickory hahaha I have burned a couple router bits working with it and my radial arm saw that I use for fretting labors a little as well. The Mosrites (Toastrites?) are still moving forward, I have to get all of them caught up before I do more videos. I'm going to have Monkey do lots of sanding and binding this weekend and se if we can make some forward progress. It's funny, as much as people say they like those the Daily Drivers are getting more attention and people are throwing more money at them. Stay cool
@XGCPolaris
7 жыл бұрын
So richlite is basically like plywood made from paper? Does it have any moisture issues? What about fretting it, anything special you have to do to it? Fretboard removal or refretting issues? Thanks for the videos Matt.
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
If you are just tuning in here are three other videos I made about Richlite.... kzitem.info/news/bejne/yqqKnqN-gYZkg5w kzitem.info/news/bejne/km6cyGR_rn-kZG0 kzitem.info/news/bejne/xpCYloaJhZxeqWU
@XGCPolaris
7 жыл бұрын
Texas Toast Guitars Very informative. Are you currently selling Richlite fretboards or will you? In a month or two I'll be needing a maple-ish fretboard with stainless or EVO frets. Slowly building 2 guitars, one for me and one for my son. Sadly my tools get destroyed by stainless. The guy gave you permission to sell them, I saw the video...
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
You know, I had considered this but ultimately this was not a path I decided to go down. I am still a fan of Richlte but only use it if a customer asks for it or wants a jet black fretboard. We do not use stainless steel frets for a number of reasons I know they are really popular but they are rough on tools.
@jeetray11
3 жыл бұрын
One builder recommended Gorilla Glue (not sure what that one's composition is) over everything else. I myself want to use hide glue or just Titebond wood glue. If richlite is so much like wood. Why shouldn't I. Comments?
@TexasToastGuitars
3 жыл бұрын
Titbond worked as well as any others provided you scuff the Richlite
@jeetray11
3 жыл бұрын
@@TexasToastGuitars have you tried Titebond Hide glue? Or just the Titebond yellow glue?
@5hredder
7 жыл бұрын
haha, I USE SUPER GLUE FOR EVERYTHING..... i really do, i tried gorrila wood glue for a fretboard, and it delaminated because i touched the guitar with a wet hand 2 days later(maybe the 10pounds per square inch of clamping pressure was too much, but both the fretboard, and the neck were straight, and the glue was supposed to be water resistant...it was out in the texas heat though too when i was working with it.)... i also use epoxy, and that is good. however, wood glue is rubbery and i can peel it off of bare wood after it dries... even when sanded to 80 grit. superglue is great because for most things, i can clamp with my hands, and it only takes about 10 minutes(i still clamp crucial wood joints with actual clamps, i just work really fast). heck, i don't even know why i keep wood glue... wood glue is for the birds, or atleast the stuff i have because it can be used as a peel coat for painting.
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what wood glue you are using but it sounds very different from what I have used since the 80's. There is certainly no peeling it off of wood, metal or my shop floor. Titebond makes a line of instant CA glue for wood if you are interested... www.titebond.com/instant_bond.aspx
@5hredder
7 жыл бұрын
cool, it seems like CA glue doesn't vary much durability wise regardless of the seller, but the viscosities and dry times will vary. i tried refilling a gorrila CA glue bottle with harbor frieght CA once, which worked pretty well, but the stuff dries faster, so it is harder to clamp when applied... i was suprised when i tried gluing together a small project, and it bonded too fast... i couldnt even slide the pieces to align them, which isn't really what i wanted for that particular application. i havent tried titebond CA glue yet, but loctite CA glue and gorilla CA glue tends to have a longer dry time. the main factor that goes into my CA selection process though is i like a good bottle. if it can seal properly, then i can work with it. i hate only having hardened glue when i need it. by the way, the wood glue i have(i dont use it, it is terrible) is gorrila wood glue... the other glues are great, and the main foam stuff is amazing when it is needed, but the wood glue is not. i think i will buy some titebond 3 next time i am at lowes or something and try it, but idk. conceptually, even if it works really really well, it is still a rubbery glue, which has a slower speed of sound, so i don't really wanna use it for luthiery work; it is way cheaper than super glue though.
@5hredder
7 жыл бұрын
i just looked at the link, and i cannot find a seller... i found a few listings on amazon, but none of the department stores carry it, and even the titebond store page on amazon lists it as currently unavailable... oh well.
@agdtec
6 жыл бұрын
How about being able to remove the fretboard for a repair? I have seen videos where the fretboard is heated to do a repair. can the fretboard be heated or steamed? or will that damage the Rchlite? As rich light is a manufactured product and not wood how well does it do under those conditions? And no I am not bashing the product like some who say Richlite if Formica and if it gets wet it falls apart just lick a countertop. In my house growing up, we had Formica and that lasted for 20 plus years. we did not leave puddles of water on the countertop we dried up the moister after cleaning. Also, I don't think the rest of the guitar would fair well submerged underwater. I actuall want to know if tradition reparrs will work or will the Richlte need to be replaced if a truss rod needs to be replaced.
@TexasToastGuitars
6 жыл бұрын
Hard to say, I am the last person you would want to ask about repairs. I will occasionally do some for friends but I hate it. There are other guys who have forgoten more about guitar repair in the last few minutes than I will ever know. If I had to guess (and I do) I would bet that the Richlite is pretty decent to work with for repairs. I understand that it is pretty much moisture resistant. You should give Sergio a call, I saw him at the NAMM show walking around, he is a good guy and can probably give you better answers then I can. Let me know
@agdtec
6 жыл бұрын
That's cool. I don't build yet but I have worked on guitars since the 80s I have leveled frets and refretted so you other video got my attention regarding Richlite. Would you happen to have Sergio's last name and the company's number?
@TexasToastGuitars
6 жыл бұрын
sergei@richlite.com
@TexasToastGuitars
6 жыл бұрын
I just got an email from him the other day I have been sick so I still need to get back with him. Tell him I said hello
@whynotme5926
7 жыл бұрын
Are you going to put your tele bridges and other parts on your website,for sale?
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
We will probably put that stuff up on the website as soon as we get things back from chrome... it takes a really long time to get things back from chrome. EPA regulations (or something like that). Anyway we send all our stuff to Nashville to a place called Advanced Plating, it turn out killer and is worth the wait. I'll be putting up a Daily Driver page on www.textoastguitars.com here in the next few weeks and updating thing as they come in. We just did the initial finish work on these guitars so stay tuned for an update video.
@whynotme5926
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@grazioso58
6 жыл бұрын
which wood glue was the first test strip done with? and second - the one with 80 abrasion?
@TexasToastGuitars
6 жыл бұрын
The only wood glue I use is original TiteBond... Before anyone asks it's not because I have done all kinds of testing or think all the other glues are junk. It's all I have ever used and I am traditional to a fault. I'm sure there are lots of other great wood glues.
@grazioso58
6 жыл бұрын
tx for quick reply, i am considering the material for my next batch
@5hredder
7 жыл бұрын
why do almost all small builders build teles? is it because the bodies are super easy to carve? or is it because everyone just wants teles?
@TexasToastGuitars
7 жыл бұрын
Both those statements are correct. They are far and away the easiest model guitar we make right now. They have also weathered the test of time and are still really cool (of course guitar players are very... traditional). I love the way a classic slab body looks and sounds, especially with a SD Quarter Pounder in the bridge. That combination will ride heard on a Les Paul if you run them both through a 50 watt Marshall.
@5hredder
7 жыл бұрын
yeah, there is nothing wrong with the design. however, i find it harder to build complete necks i make than the bodies... i suppose that it is only because the only way i can level something with my current tool set is by usig sand paper with a straight beam... i bet i could make 20 tele bodies in a day though with my 3.75 hp triton router, a template, my jig saw, and a buttload of finishing oil... it takes all day to make one of my proto bodies, because it requires a ton of sanding and prep work before it can be finished due to the large 40 grit valleys that my barbaric carving process makes, in addition to the intracate electric pathways that have to be drilled and routed...i am really slow at neck carving though, because although i use a grinder for the bulk work, i have to use leveling beams to sand, and a razor blade to even out/fix the neck shape after the rough cuts are made... i hand slot frets and i hand crown them with a harbor frieght triangle file because i havent had the budget for nice files. so, i see why you build them, and i suppose that if you are having no issue selling your guitars, then it is perfect.
@qrstw
7 жыл бұрын
You call that piece of maple scrap? I could make 3 violin necks out of it[
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