I spend about a good 70% of my time anticipating the good Dr's introduction, and the other 30% ready for the battle report! 😆
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
maybe at one point I will forget the battle report and just do a half an hour intro rant!
@JJR_01
3 ай бұрын
@@DrBlaxillhear hear!
@Christian_Girl120
3 ай бұрын
@@DrBlaxill EXCELLENT! You can rant to us anytime you feel the need to blow off steam! LOL! 🤣🤣🤣
@lucasgawayn
3 ай бұрын
Welcome back Doctor!
@Streetsam
3 ай бұрын
Great!
@skeith1543
3 ай бұрын
those lines are really gross on the tabletop.
@owl800
3 ай бұрын
Its always great to see your beautiful Chaos army in a battle report!
@federicoronchi725
3 ай бұрын
not sure it's the kind of content you are into doing, but i would find very intresting to have a video of yours where you talk about how you would go to realistically (by realistically i mean without stripping the core and building a new system) fix the old world to a point where it could start to develop a more healthy and balanced meta.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
I think a video like that is coming, but not quite yet. I need to get up to perhaps 100 competitive games (I'm at c.50) before I think I'd have a view on that that I think would be credible. I suspect I could make suggestions to fix 50% of the problems with OW that would not disrupt the game's sovereignty. But for the other 50% many of my changes would I suspect amount to bringing back 8th ed through the back door. So I think the core of such a manifesto would be, as you say, 'realism'. Which is both about mechanics, but also about something that might be accepted by the more critical/open to modding part of the community.
@markysgeeklab8783
3 ай бұрын
It would be good to first set out what the intentions are & what limitations have been self imposed to avoid a wholesale re-write/new game. I think making traditional infantry blocks a viable competative option (without reinstating step up) would be one of the outcomes I'd like. Another would be to end monster supremacy without making them competativley feeble. A 3rd would be making war machines more effective without making them oppressive (even though I didn't think they were oppressive in 8th - evidenced by dwarves being a middle of the table army).
@Ultr4l0f
3 ай бұрын
@@markysgeeklab8783a fourth for me would be how much better high level mages are. More spells, higher cast rolls, higher dispell rolls AND a larger dispell range? For not very many points. With lowel level "scroll caddies" carrying dispelscrolls gone, lvl4 mages just feel mandatory.
@johncreek3145
3 ай бұрын
Love the narration, I hope you find an elegant way of outmaneuvering the meta !
@earnestwanderer2471
3 ай бұрын
Again, I feel these batreps are very valuable in showing the “problem areas” of TOW. We probably have the linehammer phenomenon simply because the people play testing were “gentle people” who chose not to exploit rules loopholes to the Max.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
I agree, although I can't for the life of me see how they missed this one. They took away all of the advantages of ranking up (supporting attack, step up, minimising frontage, steadfast, rank bonus +3) and then decided to also actively *incentivise* going in lines! This is fine if you really like lines- but nobody does! I agree that the game could have done with harder playtesting from for example from the 9th Age crowd who knew how to break warhammer. I don't think they are as interested in making a comeptitively playable game as they were with 8th ed - and it does show (for good and bad).
@loicgaillard2606
3 ай бұрын
True. Old world is a really well balanced game if you play it as it is intended to be: as a gentleman.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
@@loicgaillard2606 Indeed. The rub of the problem is that, in 8th ed, they made a game robust enough that it could be played at a hard competitive level by strangers. With that cat out of the bag, it's a challenge for a creature of that new world to go back to a game that requires one to be a gentleman. It's not entirely a bad thing of course, but it takes some getting used to.
@22bodach
3 ай бұрын
When uve had that long day with the kids the house and life in general. U sit down with a few mins to ursel put ur headphones in hook up the Bluetooth and click youtube hoping there's anything at all worth watching. Dr Blaxill pops up relax punks it entertainment central
@Swrdfshtrmbns
3 ай бұрын
He’s back punks! 😎
@SDKFZ259
3 ай бұрын
17:15 I think you may decide to use Swiftstride after rolling the flee.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
Mmmm good point. That makes it better indeed
@Jimmyjazz1414
3 ай бұрын
I dont think it works that way
@erichung4737
3 ай бұрын
@@Jimmyjazz1414rule says: “may choose to add a d6 to the result” - I can’t have a result if I don’t roll first right?
@Jimmyjazz1414
3 ай бұрын
@@erichung4737 i must say, you sound pretty convincing 😅
@erichung4737
3 ай бұрын
Cheers mate❤
@loranthewise
3 ай бұрын
I'm always impressed by your banners. They're really cool!
@NisGaarde
3 ай бұрын
They really need to address the Fighting Rank rule. It's just a little comical with these flying lines. Doesn't feel very Warhammer.
@luis2864
3 ай бұрын
Love your videos. Was missing it. The Old World… 😪 I don’t know. Not doing well the past 2 tournaments with my empire army. In fact, I’m doing terribly bad 😂 About the game… i don’t know. I’ve been waiting for it so many years and now its back i don’t know how to feel about it after playing 6-10 games. I guess I’ll take a rest. Thanks for the video Dr.! Excellent as always.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
I think a lot of empire players have been feeling it from what I hear and the stats I see!
@Jimmyjazz1414
3 ай бұрын
Start you list with 3 great cannons and work it from there 😅 In my opinion, empire is a solid B tier faction, can win against anyone My dark elves on the other hand 😩 Although, i still prefer a weak army to the 8th edition edgecringe tbh, so i shouldn't whine
@Jewus19
3 ай бұрын
empire is strong, but very shoehorned. half of the list is trash, half is pretty decent. wizards, engineers, warmachines, knights and demigryph knights make for a very good army. all the other units are sadly quite sup par.
@Ultr4l0f
3 ай бұрын
Stats does point to Empire being low tier. But then you can factor that in! Every win is in a sense more valuable, since you fought up hill.
@nonsenselistener618
3 ай бұрын
Empire is strong, just forget your 8th Ed setup. Avoid Infantry, go for Cav-Linehammer, 3 Cannons, Lord on Griffon, Magic, Pistolier-darts, you'll be fine.
@harryhoudini4365
3 ай бұрын
99% of battle reports lose my attention pretty fast but you manage to keep it engaging, also respect the triple arachnarok
@DecrepitGaming
3 ай бұрын
Disgusting O&G army Doc lol. But if it works in a tourney situation then I guess it's valid. I'm glad that you have avoided the temptation of the Chaos Lord on Dragon, but maybe we should see this scary fellow in a future batrep where you can demonstrate it's lethality. Great to see the Chaos Knights put up a good fight and I think the Chaos warrior line was fair considering the opposition. Your Lord doing a runner was the nails in your coffin though. I hope your working on your next old world content. Love your channel.
@KingPashPlays
3 ай бұрын
20:35 I presume at this stage you were in the flank of the Spider Riders and overran into the Squig Hoppers, correct? It's hard to tell from the pictures and your description but that's the only way I can imagine you ended up closing the door so much, because if you had charged the Hoppers alone, you wouldn't align to them, as they are Skirmishers. It's an odd positioning situation and i'd have needed to see it from a different angle in order to confirm it. I don't know why he didn't just charge it with all three spiders. They'd have gone through that unit in one turn (if he hadn't run off the board to three Terror tests first) but I guess hindsight is different. Interesting (& disappointing) to see how the game can be abused.
@TheTarturo
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, that meta reminds me of 6th and 7th. And not in a good way. Gonna have do houserule it, as we like to do in Germany.
@ellesse3862
3 ай бұрын
That was entertaining, always a pleasure to stare at images of well painted eyecandy and who in their right mind doesn't love fun narration, bonus. Not sure about the monster army, I think they devoured the goblins on the way to the battle .. also not sure about those bloody long lines but thats the rules and the loopholes and I know you enjoy pushing mechanics to see which wheel falls off the wagon train. Bonkers wheel and amusing, I bet those warriors at the far end were knackered and cursing those at the other end placing dainty fairy steps while the gang caught up. Good luck with the tournament.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
They got a work out for sure. Some of the guys that started on the far right moved perhaps 80 inches in the game
@subedai
3 ай бұрын
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer a ruleset that somehow tries to emulate what a fantasy themed medieval battle might look and play out like.
@idiotproofdalek
3 ай бұрын
It boggles my mind that anyone would try and play this game competitively.
@MartyrDK
3 ай бұрын
Only thing I would change for the gobbos was to remove the shaggoth & squigs. And add 2 units of night goblins with 3x fanatic in each unit :D.
@user-ko3tv7jl2r
3 ай бұрын
Love the third ed style of that Chaos force. Beautiful. Is the Dr heading to BOYL this year?
@poxous3854
3 ай бұрын
You get to see the flee roll before you decide to swift stride or not.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
Quite right. I doubt I'll make that mistake again!
@thomascoutts9242
3 ай бұрын
Literally was just wondering when the next battle report was on the cards….
@chawinski
Ай бұрын
Loved the bat rep. Great stuff as always!
@Alextremo-1
3 ай бұрын
You cannot carry more than 100 points in magic items with the Lord of Chaos. ogre blade 65, Paymaster's coin 25, Potion of toughness 20, favor 5, total 115
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
Guilty as charged! Actually, I don't think I had the coin and the potion in this game. I'd been cycling between them in the four games we played, forgot which when describing the army after the event (neither were relevant!)
@danielsegal4427
3 ай бұрын
Cheese armies did exist in warhammer fantasy as well
@josephjustice4553
3 ай бұрын
F**k Linehammer and Monsterhammer…😉
@richardpagel6959
3 ай бұрын
Can't wait for some battle reports from the tournament!
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
Alas I'm officiating not playing! (I really wish I was playing!). However I will do a video from the tournament, a walkaround probably.
@Omalley69
3 ай бұрын
Goblin list sounds illigal, 2k list ? Arachna is 310, so no room for a 200 point giant. Squig herd requires a night gob char ...? Loving your vids still🎉
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
It was an earlier game we played I had on file so there could well be a few mistakes. We were also assuming marching column circumvents frenzy and impetuous, but as they explained in a recent FAQ, it does not...
@Marlerc11
3 ай бұрын
@@DrBlaxill yeah, that change is probably good. I think all war beast should be impetuous if we're being honest. I hate those screening pooches whether they are in vamps, chaos warriors, or beasts of chaos armies.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
@@Marlerc11 Yes, I agree it's a good change, although I would much prefer impetuous was contingent on leadership rather than a flat roll, because would enable a player to mitigate some of its downside through smarter play. Yes, I can see that argument on war beasts. the dogs are pretty hot. Only problem with them is that they don't reliably block terror causers as they can't use general's leadership.
@bat33.12
3 ай бұрын
Those chaos warrior punks look pretty but can they fight? It seems they can, but not as well as they manoeuvre around the table in a crazy line dance and frenzy of squig bashing. I must admit this full competitive Old World gaming doesn't look the same as WHFB of old and is almost as confusing as that AoS no frontage game where everyone runs in every direction at once. Does the good Dr Blaxhill have any idea how these rules anomalies and general weirdness of ToW will be corrected? Will it just stay as it is or if GW can't or won't look at the rules will it take the community of players to come up with an agreed set of changes?
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
Well, *I* agree with you here. The more competitive you go with OW the less like proper Warhammer it looks or feels. Single models, 360 degree skirmishers with super speed who can see/go anywhere, magic that feels like firing guns, and lines. However I don't think most OW players think these things are a problem. Or that if they do think so, that they are mostly confined to competitive play which is so niche that it isn't worth rewriting rules for. So there's definitely a limit to how much GW will change or the community would accept. One has to accept the last point to some extent. OW is one edition of this great game. I think it's one of the weaker ones in the family, but we must respect its sovereignty, even though some of the changes make me roll my eyes!
@Marlerc11
3 ай бұрын
That free wheel on the line was wild haha
@Jimmyjazz1414
3 ай бұрын
And illegal 😅
@Marlerc11
3 ай бұрын
@@Jimmyjazz1414 Are you going to just state that it's illegal without even stating why? I looked it up and from what I saw it is legal. "Flank and Rear Charges"and "Resolving Uncertainties" page 127 states, "Sometimes, a charging unit will straddle two arcs. In such cases, count how many models in the front rank of the charging unit lie within each arc. If there are more models in one arc, the unit is considered to be in that arc."
@Marlerc11
3 ай бұрын
@@Jimmyjazz1414 the way that this would be Illegal is that if alignment to the enemy unit after the charge counted as a "maneuver" in which no model can move double their movement. I'm not sure if it's clear enough to make a call on though
@Jimmyjazz1414
3 ай бұрын
@@Marlerc11 the illegal part is the 30' movement, since universal movement rule is "no more that twice the movement"
@Marlerc11
3 ай бұрын
@@Jimmyjazz1414 I think we responded to each other at the same time, but what I was saying is it's not a universal movement rule. It's that you can't move double your movement in a maneuver. I could see that the Free Wheel that you get to align to the enemy at the end of a charge is a maneuver but it's not clear so I wouldn't say that it's outright illegal. And for clarity's sake, I don't think that this should be allowed and I doubt that Luke thinks it should be allowed either. He stated in the past that he tries to find find ways to break the game so that they can be addressed.
@Mr._A685
3 ай бұрын
I could be way off but if this is a 2k game how did the goblin player have a giant 200pt + spider 310pt? Appreciate the report thia format is very wasy to digest and i Appreciate it takes significantly longer to edit and produce than the longer form stuff
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
Yes, this was one of several mistakes in the game, it would be a 10 point overspend in rare.
@damonburgess9631
3 ай бұрын
What a treat indeed!
@matteodefrancesco1213
3 ай бұрын
Manoeuvres: During its movement, a unit may perform one of the following manoeuvres (note that no model may move more than double its Movement characteristic)
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
Yes. But not charging. There, it's a free for all!
@TheVigilante2000
3 ай бұрын
I love the meta, so I can IGNORE it.
@jonnycanning4516
3 ай бұрын
Get in!
@punchyMiddleEarth
3 ай бұрын
Forgot to use your Mark of Undivided re-roll on your General??!
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
I think I might have done! I think we have established my general fleeing was wrong now on three counts: 1.) He can reroll it as you say. I may have done this at the time and failed, I don't recall 2.) He causes fear so counts terror as fear 3.) His swiftstride can be declared after he's seen the flee distance.
@Cynidecia
3 ай бұрын
LO! PUNKS REPORT IN!
@AM-uw3gp
3 ай бұрын
Nice one punk
@andrewrockwell1282
3 ай бұрын
The battle standards are great. If you know who is carrying them you don't even need to be able to see the models to know what is coming for you.
@TheFriendlyEnglishman
3 ай бұрын
Despite presumable being totally mad?! This guy is entertaining for sure.
@davideallegra8022
3 ай бұрын
Si ma stai calmo 😂
@HallBr3gg
3 ай бұрын
More pls!
@Jimmyjazz1414
3 ай бұрын
Free movement still has to follow the universal rule of no more than double your movement, so you can't fully wheel, its a disturbed charge Linehammer is not that good when you apply that rule, and it's very clear (at least to me) that you have to apply it
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
That rule applies only to movement. You can charge more than double your movement. There isn't a penalty for a movement 4' troop charging 9' or 10' if they roll a 5 or 6 on their charge.
@Jimmyjazz1414
3 ай бұрын
@@DrBlaxilltrue, dice movements are exempt from the rule (as is marching column) the wheel after the charge is not a charge move, it is a free maneuver move! Love your battlereports regardless ❤
@Marlerc11
3 ай бұрын
@@Jimmyjazz1414 hello again, here's a weird scenario. My opponent puts his guys roughly9 inches away (but with a slight tilt so we're not perpendicular) from my frenzied unit that has movement 4. I roll my charge and get a 4 and a 5, go the shortest distance possible, but when I go to align it would cause me to "free wheel" maybe half an inch. Since I moved 9 already would I not be permitted the .5" wheel for the unit that I had to charge with? Seems a little sad to me haha
@Jimmyjazz1414
3 ай бұрын
@@Marlerc11 i personally don't count the charge when counting movement, so lets say you have a 9 inch charge but is not enough to align even when not trying to maximize, you get a free wheel but that free wheel cant be more than double your movement I feel that this way the game works good and also gives more opportunities to maximize but doesnt allow wheel abuse when being in a big line formation I don't know if its the right way to play but then again i dont play in tournaments, i find most tournament players pricks tbh, i have a group of friends that we play regurarly (have more than 50 games of old world) So far, we have a very good success rate interpreting somewhat vague rules when FAQ drop (i think the only rule we didnt play right was that we combined armor on ridden monsters but then again i think that gw just wanted to rewrite the rule without admitting it 😅)but then again we dont care to bend a rule if it doesnt feel organic to the game or add our own rules if we feel they are needed, its different from tournament play for sure
@Marlerc11
3 ай бұрын
@@Jimmyjazz1414 I also haven't played in a tournament and have a pretty chill group of guys I play with. The FAQ you were referring to has me confused because it basically says fast cavalry Cannot "pivot" after a turn they made a full march because it would cause some to go farther than 2x their movement. In the original rules, it makes it seem like the unit can't move double their movement during a (single?) maneuver. Then the FAQ kind of debunks that with their answer of "you can't move more than double your movement (unless there is an obvious exception)" and they go on to lost 2 such as marching columns and dice rolls affected movement. ....Are these the only exceptions or just some examples???? What does "Free wheel" really even mean???? ..…...Anyways, back to the FAQ question, The problem is that a pivot as in "quick turn" for fast cav is not a maneuver in the sense that it isn't listed under the maneuvers and is usually something that happens for free. So all this to say, the FAQ has often left me with more questions than answers. Will it affect me in my games? Probably not. Do I enjoy contemplating rules questions too much? Probably so
@Streetsam
3 ай бұрын
Great!
@sarahkearns2695
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for shouting out my gaming accessories store, very appreciated 😁
@AnHourOfWolves
3 ай бұрын
If that general didn't flee, it would have been a route for the goblins!
@XandersArcaneStudy
3 ай бұрын
Great video! Always appreciate your work. :)
@Ulf-Womanslayer
3 ай бұрын
Nice vid. Where did the ruined temple come from?
@kerel995
3 ай бұрын
Fak yeaaahahahaaaaa Muaahaha!!!! Jeeez been a long wait
@jacobhouseman7448
3 ай бұрын
I know I’m a bit late to the party but I just wanted to say this was a fantastic battle report. Great narration and a terrific sense of pace-thanks for posting.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
thanks!
@stevenkennedy4130
3 ай бұрын
My my! Look at all those lines!!
@strigoi_guhlqueen8355
3 ай бұрын
So many spiders. I like it.
@scepteredisle
3 ай бұрын
About ruddy time mate
@xLAZY666
3 ай бұрын
love the banners
@JulienBourjault
3 ай бұрын
Nice to see you back. About swiftstride, you played it wrong at your disadvantage. You can roll first the 2 dice for charge/flee movement then decide to add the swiftstride dice to the result 😉 Otherwise, been playing around 30 games and the game exceeds my initial expectations. As for competitive play, it’s too early to say, but there are few combos and good play that will help…👍
@Ultr4l0f
3 ай бұрын
I was wondering about when to roll. Its not very clearly stated when to roll it. It doesnt say to choose before, or you may choose to roll after. It FEELS like it should be that you roll at the same time.
@JulienBourjault
3 ай бұрын
@@Ultr4l0f i just quote the rule: « when it makes a Charge, Flee or Pursuit roll, may apply a +D6 modifier to the result. » a charge is 2d6, then you may apply a d6 modifier. Quite clear to me 😉
@Infernal_Puppet
3 ай бұрын
Should have taken a line of forsaken smh my head.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
Forsaken are good on short lines of 5 or 6. They have multiple attacks so don't suit a mega line that often, and the open order reform also easier to use with a short line. Love your username!
@Jimmyjazz1414
3 ай бұрын
FINALLY!!!!!
@poxous3854
3 ай бұрын
7X3=21"
@AlexanderHansson-ou2uh
3 ай бұрын
I'm slightly confused over the General's flee discussion. I haven't played so much yet, but I'm pretty confident the rules state that you choose your charge response after all charges have been declared. So you wouldn't have to choose wether to flee or stand, swiftstride, not swiftstride, until all the charges have been declared, thus maybe, making the decision easier over the other spiders' choices. Also, you only get to choose once, and you won't flee again right? Since you can only ever flee once / turn?
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
True, but this was a terror test! Weirdly, that happens immediately rather than at the end, allowing you to pushed by a subsequent charge like in 8th Ed. Has I voluntarily fled you are quite right I'd have picked a different spider which wouldbt have risked it, but my opponent deliberately declared that one first to force the terror test on me from the most inconvenient target
@AlexanderHansson-ou2uh
3 ай бұрын
@@DrBlaxill Ahh, must've missed that! Figured it felt like a basic error, and no one else was posting :P Yeah the bloody Terror tests. Anyways, really enjoyed the battle report, it's probably the first one I've seen that's been good. Not just two random lads full of random antics pushing random units from a random army list towards each other.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
@@AlexanderHansson-ou2uh The interplay of 'you declare charge' then 'I declare response' from charge to charge was a lovely little game within a game in 8th and the order you declared charges in was thus sometimes pivotal. It is (with the exception of terror) another thing I wish they'd kept in OW rather than this 'everyone declare' approach which slices away a dimension of play. But, unlike some of the changes, I can see an upside to this one (simplicity).
@nonsenselistener618
3 ай бұрын
@@DrBlaxill You only Flee once per phase, so if your first Flee had not taken you beyond the dragon ogres, a second charge would NOT have resulted in a second Flee. Instead you stay and risk being charged while fleeing, and hence killed.
@nonsenselistener618
3 ай бұрын
@DrBlaxill Page 133 The Limits of Endurance rule says a unit can only Flee once per phase, any additional Flee moves are set to 0"
@Skarloc10
3 ай бұрын
I do understand you guys are testing the new ruleset under a competetive setting but I can´t watch battlereports with those stupid line-formations, I had to stop. It is too visually unpleasing for me to watch, I´d rather watch a less competetive battlereport of a more classic look. No offence intended.
@DrBlaxill
3 ай бұрын
I completely agree about how it looks. I've been pretty outspoke about linehammer (I coined the term!) and it's something I'm looking to try to change (alongside some other things about the game). But I think the best way of doing this is through exploring them, rather than hiding them.
@ClockworkArcanaUK
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the effusive promotion of our curios, Dr. Blaxill, and we hope Marmaduke kept an eye on your armies while you were out on the town! 𓂀
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