Matt, the reason the old wet flies didn't have a long body was that the tiers were holding the hook in their hand to tie it.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
This is a great note George! Thank you!! That makes total sense. I love learning these things from viewers around here. :-)
@gdreilly
Жыл бұрын
@Savage Flies if at any of the fly shows that John Shaner is at, he can tell you more on this. He's big into the old spider flies. You normally find him at the hardy booth. He does a great presentation on them too!
@ruebdogg1
Жыл бұрын
Matt, you are humble and absolutely the best dressed fly fishing channel host!
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha! If I can't be the best fly fisherman on KZitem, I can at least be the best dressed. :-)
@laytonmarvin3790
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic pattern. The spider look is always a performer. Myself, I probably spend 70% of my time swinging soft hackles and emergers. You just can't go wrong, especially on those windy days. Have a wonderful weekend and thank you for sharing.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Layton! Just reading the comments, I think I was in the minority by fishing dry flies 90% of the time! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@MyItalians
Жыл бұрын
Morning Matt. Nice to hear you had fun at the ranch. Meaning fishing. Have a great day.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Appreciate it Nich! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@Jd-yc3gw
Жыл бұрын
Good morning Matt. ☕️time. I like tying wet flies like the one this morning. With little to no moving water I haven’t had an opportunity to fish any yet but I have some ready if the opportunity arises. There is a couple creeks where I’m headed fishing/camping for the next couple weeks so maybe it’s time. Peter’s channel is quite good and I watch it often. He explains things well. Take care Matt and have a great weekend.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it John! Good luck camping. I've got another trip to the Savage coming up this weekend, and then a trip to PA next month, and then my next big trip will be a week in the Adirondacks in September. That's going to be a fun one!
@danielyost9126
Жыл бұрын
I can remember in my earlier years of fly fishing I watched a elderly gentleman fishing a queen of the water catching one fish after another as smoke from his pipe circled his head
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Great memory Daniel! The Queen of the Water... what a fly!
@bigdaddy99929
Жыл бұрын
Don’t be too tough on yourself. We all get stubborn and think we can make the fish take the fly. Nice fly. ThxMatt. Have a fabulous weekend.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Appreciate it Clyde! And thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@kenb4685
Жыл бұрын
Gidday Matt. Nice easy looking fly. Thankyou.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Ken! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@johnnylightning1491
Жыл бұрын
Another nice one Matt, simple and I'll be effective. It's nice fishing when the fish are rising but I think I've read somewhere that 90% of fish's feeding is underwater so wet flies make a whole lot of sense to me. Keep the good stuff coming buddy.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Yep Dave, I've read that same fact many times. It's just hard not to fish dries when you see the bugs in the air and the fish eating on top!
@pc5439
Жыл бұрын
Good looking fly Matt, have a great weekend.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Phil! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@joeduca8582
Жыл бұрын
You should hit a homerun with that wet Matt😊 My personal best brown came a #12 Grouse and Orange. Orange thread body with a hare's ear thorax to prop up the hackle. It made 3 reel screaming 😱 runs , called the wife over to net it. Lost it at the net😢 I used a dry fly hook, standard length shank. It hit as I picked up the line during what I think is called a water haul just after I let it dangle. 😮 hey, where' the bow tie! Yup fishing or swinging wets is fun. Sort of in-between dry and nymph fishing. Maybe you should've fished a dry with a small wet dropper. I gave up on fishing multi fly rigs, 🪰 🪰 🪰, too many knots and tangles. 😅 Have a great weekend, heat wave up here.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Great note Joe! This pattern did fairly well for me on the Gunpowder this past weekend. I forced myself to fish all wets. I took ONE fly box, nothing but patterns like this and a few winged wets in it. I was going to make it work or take another skunk. And believe me, it was hard... watching the bugs in the air and seeing rises all around me! But I stuck with it and landed a handful. Nothing huge, but that's okay. I'll get there. :-)
@joeduca8582
Жыл бұрын
@@SavageFlies A few in the hand is better than none. See ya tomorrow bud.👍
@brianhoover2294
Жыл бұрын
I love the look of, and tying, wet flies. I have been trying to improve my wet fly fishing on the local MD waters as well. Thank you for sharing this pattern.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
You bet Brian! Good luck to you my friend. :-)
@stevetrybalski3082
Жыл бұрын
Good morning Matt, nice simple pattern!! I agree Peter Charles has a great channel, been following him for several years. He is fantastic at answering your questions and helping you out. There is something for everyone. It is great to see tyer promote/ referencing other tyers with great content!! Have a great weekend and tight lines !!
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Ken! And I totally agree about Peter's channel. He's one of the first channels I go to for actually learning tactics. :-)
@edwardmlotkiewicz2343
Жыл бұрын
The Partridge series of flies have always been fish catchers. When I first started flyfishing, my casting left a lot to desire and used wet flies to cover my lousy casting. Always like to watch your videos even though I don't tout fish much. Oh, was up in Maryland and fished the Gunpowder. Low and slow, one small fish all day.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
I'm with you there Ed. I got six with this thing on the Gunpowder this past Saturday. Nothing huge, but it was enough action to keep me out there for several hours. :-)
@colinsummers1302
6 ай бұрын
Heh Matt, about 3 years ago I tried tying/fishing a few wet flies. Watched a couple of video's for some tips and such. Anyway I've been fishing wet/tying wet flies about 75-80% of the time and had pretty good luck with the trout. Great video Sir!
@bobhammond8067
Жыл бұрын
Matt, I have used these flies with good success, in different colors and smaller hook sizes. Thanks for tying an old favorite!!
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
You bet Bob! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@mikemarchacos2532
Жыл бұрын
Hey Matt,,I’ve been swinging wets for over 50 years in the waters of Massachusetts and have caught dozens of fish when others are throwing dry and scratching their heads. The short body comes from the UK where the tying of Spiders is still very popular. I usually fish two wets in size 12 down and across and it never fails. My favorite fly during the Sulpher hatch is a Burlap wet.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Great note Mike! I've tied a burlap nymph and streamer, but now I'm going to add a smaller burlap wet to my box. :-)
@burtonbrocious171
Жыл бұрын
Nice soft hackle Matt used them a lot very effective tks 😊
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Burt! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@oldbones4941
Жыл бұрын
Lovely fly and the dubbed bidy is brilliant, weel tied, thank you so much for showing this.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@marshallbaldwin8960
Жыл бұрын
Nice looking simple pattern. Thanks for sharing this tutorial Sir Matt
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Marshall! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@stephenhegedus6930
Жыл бұрын
Love tying and swinging soft hackles! It amazes how successful soft hackles can be and how many people underestimate using them in all sorts of situations for various species. Very effective stripping them in still water too. Thanks for the video.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Great note Stephen! I have to confess that I've been one to underestimate them for years. But I'm working to change that and elevate my overall fishing game. :-)
@charleshutcheson2506
Жыл бұрын
Matt thanks! Want to see & hear how fishing with these wets goes in your waters.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Charles! It did well for me this past weekend. I got a handful of fish with this thing. Nothing huge, but I'll take small fish over no fish any day. :-)
@glenndotter5065
Жыл бұрын
Sort of like a partridge and orange but a cool variation. My first wet flies were 60 years ago were a Black Gnat, March Brown, and Light Cahill. Tied by Dick Rader of Easton PA. He showed me how to swing them on Shohola Creek on a 3 fly dropper setup. I caught so many trout and I was hooked on swinging wets!
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Great story Glenn! I've got some March Brown wets in my box but you reminded me that I definitely need some black gnats. I see that pattern in almost every book so you know it's stood the test of time!
@jamesvatter5729
Жыл бұрын
Hard to beat the soft hackles. Easy ties and fun to fish.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Yes!! I'm getting over my stubborn dry fly habit and had a pretty good time fishing these wets this weekend. :-)
@markfritch3168
Жыл бұрын
Nice fly and tie. I generally start with nymphs and go to drys later in the day. Spinners when it gets late and just enjoying the river at dusk. I’ve had a handful of days when nothing seemed interested but all is good. Better than work or watching the news eh. Warmest regards my friend
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed Mark! Any day on the water is a good day. It's just more fun when the fish cooperate. :-)
@ybarrajc
Жыл бұрын
That will definitely fish. Thanks for sharing. Have a blessed day my friend.
@castironbakeryedmonton2644
Жыл бұрын
I love these, especially for grayling but I’ve caught other things with this. The variation I learned is Tenkara-style with Shetland Spindrift yarn (so no need for wire) and the partridge.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Great note! I appreciate the tips my friend. :-)
@garyproctor6044
Жыл бұрын
Matt, don't worry about having an oh sh# what was I thinking moment..... it happens to everyone. Swinging traditional wet flies is my starting point on most days. If fishing tandem flies it's a dry and a wet or a wet and a bead head nymph. For our midwest rivers my favorite go to old school wet fly is the Carey Special. Traditional Tiemco or Mustad wet hook in sz 8 to 14, hare's mask or squirrel dubbing body, peacock herl thorax, hackle fiber tail, swept back 3-turn hackle no longer than the hook and tied with rusty/copper or mahagony thread. Leave a long thread tag, wax it, double it, twist up and use as the rib. Thank You for keeping the traditional flies alive and on the menu. Take Care
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Great note Gary! I had a good day fishing wets only this past weekend here on the Gunpowder. Next weekend I'm trying the same thing on the Savage, but I might fish some small soft hackles under an elk hair caddis. Thanks for the tips! And BTW, I've tied the Carey Special, and probably fished it a few times but I can't recall having had much luck with it. I may need to give it another try. :-)
@crowdaddy8355
Жыл бұрын
Great classic fly. Thanks Matt
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Chad! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@toddslichter7831
Жыл бұрын
Partridge and "anything" makes for a great wet fly. I usually tie a wire body, but I will have to start using dubbed bodies more often. Thanks for sharing, Matt. Have a great weekend.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Todd! And yes, those really old school North Country spiders seem to be the same as this but with a super thin thread body. (Or gossamer silk if I recall.)
@brhino1017
Жыл бұрын
Matt your rockin' the suit buddy! Great vid as always.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it man! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@davehall2160
Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous looking fly, Matt I love fishing this type of fly I don't fish them enough, my favorite is the snipe and purple. The feather comes from under the wing, kind of gray in color. I didn't have any snipe feathers, so the next best thing I could think of was a dove feather It worked great on a size 14 Thanks for the video, Matt and I hope you have a great weekend
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Great note Dave! I saw several patterns with a snipe feather for a hackle and was wondering what I could substitute for it. If I recall correctly, a dove is pretty similar to a partridge as well.
@bsaks51
Жыл бұрын
Matt love this pattern. I too want to get better swinging wet flies.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Yep Brian! I tied another wet for tomorrow's video. A Dave Hughes' flymph that I'll give a try on the Savage this weekend. :-)
@TERRYBIGGENDEN
Жыл бұрын
Good to see and hear. I fish what are called old style wet flies as well as nymphs-at least most of the time. I prefer the wets. Rather than just swinging them. I cast a little upstream, let them drift parallel to the shore, then let them swing. It's a wonderful way of fishing and the takes are mostly very definite.Once in a while I get a fish on the drift. Very keen anglers fish wet flies upstream-takes a lot of concentration and much short casting! Good luck and you will have a great time. :-)
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Fishing wets upstream will be a goal of mine after I get a bit more practice fishing wets in general. But I can imagine you've got to be pretty accurate with your casts and very aware of your position and shadows and such. I'll get there. :-)
@TERRYBIGGENDEN
Жыл бұрын
@@SavageFlies I thin the hardest part is retrieving line and keeping a perfect drift. I'm great at it-it works though. Slower currents are easier of course. :-)
@trekman1489
Жыл бұрын
Matt I live the wet flues they are easy to tie with very simple materials on hand. I have tied many of them in different colors (earth tone colors) my favorite is using pea cock herls with copper wire and partridge hackles (any colors) it can be wet or dry flies.
@georgehirsch9152
10 ай бұрын
Cut my fly fishing teeth on spring creeks. There is always a wet fly selection in my day box. In situations like you described, I will often use a dry dropper with a wet on the drop. When you see those light rises this can really work!
@SavageFlies
10 ай бұрын
Great tip George! That's something we don't see a lot of people recommend-- a standard, light weight wet fly as a dropper. But why not? Partridge hackle is so thin, it doesn't always have to be swing. It'll have movement in practically still water.
@joutdoorsmen23
Жыл бұрын
Great job always enjoy your videos
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@FlyTyer1948
Жыл бұрын
I love the Partridge & Hare’s Ear. It’s so effective. Other wet fly favorites are Partridge & Orange or Partridge & Chartreuse, & of course, The Professor. Try those & still get skunked by trout? Soothe your self-esteem & morale with a short pond trip for bass or panfish with those same flies. :-)
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Great idea Bob! I was able to redeem myself this past weekend on the Gunpowder. Albeit only slightly. Half a dozen fish with this thing in about four hours. Nothing huge but it was enough action to keep me interested for a while. :-)
@edherrmann182
Жыл бұрын
Since we’re in sulfer hatch season, a sulfer wet fly works really great. Sean Holtzinger has a really good wet fly pattern he recently posted on his site. I have tied several sulfer patterns I tied and they all work, but Sean’s fly works pretty good and is not that difficult to tie for the beginning fly tyer.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ed! I too watch Sean's channel so will have to check this one out. :-)
@howardmceachern6614
Жыл бұрын
I haven't see this fly for years and years. I am trying like crazy and will give it a shshothis weekend. Thanks, ,Matt. I agree with @ruebdogg1, nice presentation with you and the flies.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Well thank you Howard! I appreciate the kind words my friend. :-)
@MrDADS777
Жыл бұрын
I use wet flies often and find I catch more fish. A yellow pattern works well here for brook trout. When lake fishing I will add weight. I do enjoy the dry fly and watching them being taken but if I don't get any hits on the dry I switch to the pattern you just tied. After watching numerous fly tying channel's I like yours the best and how you go through the steps and history.
@MrDADS777
Жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention my top producer is using peacock hurl, 3 to 4 strands for the body with gold or silver wire, sometimes flash with partridge for hackle or coke de Leon.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Well thank you my friend, I appreciate the kind words! There are lots of great channels out there but I'm kind of a history nerd so I love telling the background on anything I can find out there. Have a great week my friend!
@MrDADS777
Жыл бұрын
@Savage Flies I have watched numerous channels as well. Yours for me is a good one with the history and where it's from, plus you go over materials used and step by step instructions and show mistakes, and how the fly is still fishable. Bonus on how close you zoom in to tying. So many channels just have music, run through it and fly has to be perfect. So good job on everything you do and I do like when you show fishing some of the flies you tie.
@jimgollach6202
Жыл бұрын
99% of my flyfishing is nymphs and wet flies, mostly patterns I made up. I've had many days of more fun on the water than what I deserve, give it a shot Matt, you'll never regret it. By the way, nice fly, it will catch you some fish.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim! I took it out this past weekend on the Gunpowder here in Maryland and it turned out great. No huge fish, but enough small ones for me to get some good practice in. :-)
@neilcox2739
Жыл бұрын
Let us know how swinging wets on the Savage goes Mike!
@TERRYBIGGENDEN
Жыл бұрын
I tie a very simple pattern. it's usually; on a caddis hook or similar. A body of anything. but hare's ear/rabbit is terrific. Ribbed with gold or copper wire, and no tail. The wing is simply once0folded mallard flank feather or similar Longer than the shank. No Hackle. They are virtually tiny streamers-size 14 and 12. They were a treat. :-)
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Outstanding note Terry! I'm trying this. I've been tying all kinds of experiments to fill up my fly box. I did one almost like you describe here but with mink. The guard hairs actually made a pretty cool looking wing.
@mattpesci98
Жыл бұрын
I almost always have a soft hackle or other emerger behind my dry fly when fish are rising. And I probably catch 3/4 of my fish on the emerger.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Great note Matt! I'm trying this tactic next weekend on the Savage. A small, slender Partridge and Orange would weigh next to nothing and could easily be hung off a #14 elk hair caddis. I'm definitely fishing this combo next weekend. :-)
@arthurshupe7411
Жыл бұрын
Thank ‘s Matt. I think everything will eat this fly.
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Arthur! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
@mavrickjohn1
9 ай бұрын
Try tying a Partridge and Hare's Ear in black hare they killed it the last time I was out.
@ogieoglethorpe
6 ай бұрын
This is the ONLY fly I fish. During a hatch I put on a little KINK and fish it as a cripple.
@byronwhitsonwhitson7965
Жыл бұрын
I don't know how you land any fish without any Barb
@АлександрНовиков-ч2в5л
Жыл бұрын
👍💪
@MrJlbarber
Жыл бұрын
Isn't this a soft hackle fly?
@SavageFlies
Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed Jack. All the Partridge "and something" flies are technically soft hackles. As are most sunken flies tied with soft hen feathers instead of stiff rooster hackle. And I guess most upland game birds make for soft hackles as well.
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