My problem is the Kamui thing. When Obito reaches for Gojo, he can put his hand into the other dimension. This will ignore the infinity the same as Limbo. He can then bring his hand back while already touching Gojo and suck him up. I think Obito falling against Konan isn't a valid counter, because any instant that he isn't phasing, he'll be in this dimension and affected by gravity. Also, any small part of his body not phasing will also make him fall. Obito falling while his body is in a different dimension would just be inconsistent with his ability, so this seems more likely to me.
@MalikJenkinsPrude
6 ай бұрын
Purple doesn’t have existence erasure. Sukuna tanked the attack twice. Toji also wasn’t wiped from existence but was made into a donut, and Hanami survived a Purple as well.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
He tanked the explosion, not a direct hit. The part of Toji that was hit was erased. We’re not sure what part of Hanami was actually hit. I made sure to leave a note on there explaining this and then the editors comment on how it’s virtual mass, not imaginary mass, specifically for this comment.
@videlltheassassin
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Sukuna definitely tanked it at least once it's how he lost his hand
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@videlltheassassin he tanked the explosion, not a direct hit
@DiepreyeMoses
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesthen what happened to the direct hit? I’m pretty sure it just erases you and sukuna tanked a 200% hollow purple with his hands.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@DiepreyeMoses Gojo can either launch it as a projectile or detonate it, and he chose to detonate it because Sukuna could probably dodge it. A direct hit should lead to existence erasure of whatever it hits
@DiepreyeMoses
6 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure hollow purple doesn’t work like truth seeker orbs, those orbs also affects the spiritual plain thus reanimations can’t regenerate we saw Minato also lost his arms in the spiritual Plain after Madara cut them off. There’s no way purple works like that, purple is just like atomic dismantling Justus and we saw madara regenerate from atomic dismantling Justus.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
That’s a fair point
@starslight-x3o
6 ай бұрын
No it's mass erasure, which, by extension, should mean existence erasure.
@DiepreyeMoses
6 ай бұрын
@@starslight-x3oI’m pretty sure spirits don’t have mass.
@starslight-x3o
6 ай бұрын
@@DiepreyeMoses Madara isn't a "spirit" because for the Impure World Reanimation to work, you have to use a sacrifice which will be the foundation for the reanimation's body. Meaning that since there's a sacrifice (human), he has mass by extension.
@DiepreyeMoses
6 ай бұрын
@@starslight-x3othe body he resides in isn’t a living being and it does have mass but the soul in the body doesn’t have mass and you can’t stop a reanimated person because you can’t destroy the soul of that person and if you can’t destroy the soul the person the body will regenerate infinitely. That’s why they resulted to sealing reanimations, So you’re wrong the soul doesn’t have mass, if purple can really destroy souls then toji wouldn’t have been able to come back as he did. It’s different for truth seeker orb’s though it destroys both the body and soul, if you lose an arm physically you’d also lose an arm spiritually
@J0kerz_Editz
6 ай бұрын
Gojo fans getting outta hand🤣🤣🤣
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Which part was wrong?
@sageoverheaven
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesThey never answer this 💀
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@sageoverheaven bro that’s WHAT I’M SAYINGGGGG
@sageoverheaven
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves People really be thinking infinity is a joke because JJK itself has enough counter-hax to make bypassing it look *plausible* for many other, less detailed power systems.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@sageoverheaven I 100% agree with you
@DiepreyeMoses
6 ай бұрын
You’re clearly biased. If the inverted spear of heaven could go through infinity without being slowed down then why would the truth seeker orbs would slow down? And I’m pretty sure inverted spear of heaven is physical. And also limbo one shots GOJO what’s stopping Madara from punching off gojo’s head and GOJO can’t see or react to GOJO so it’s pretty GG.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
ISOH is stated to cause active techniques to be forcefully canceled. Because Gojo’s technique is used to manipulate the space around him, once the ISOH enters that space, it forcefully cancels the technique. It’s more of a hax-based effect. The TSOs, on the other hand, nullify ninjutsu by touching the ninjutsu itself. It would be like saying the TSOs can nullify Kamui, but we know that’s not the case. Essentially what I’m getting at is the types of nullification attributed to the ISOH and TSOs are inherently different. I agree with Limbo one tapping him. That’s why I said Rinnegan Madara and Juubidara get the W.
@JVSJ11
3 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves wouldn't ISOH and kisames sword samahada do the exact same thing if we're equalizing chakra and CE. samahada would just "eat" through infinity
@sageofthickcalves
3 ай бұрын
@@JVSJ11 no because ISOH cancels cursed techniques, it doesn’t actual tear through or absorb them
@DiepreyeMoses
Ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves bro nullifying means canceling (Nullification is the act of cancelling something. ) And also TSO can’t nullify kamui because it doesn’t come in contact with kamui…… kamui rips a hole in space what TSO is coming in contact with is the Open hope in space not kamui…… but TSO can come in contact with The infinite barrier created by GOJO and nullify it….. You’re coming in contact with infinity Barrier once you try to touch GOJO… Kamui is totally different from how infinity Barrier works…… so TSO would act differently to both abilities….. if you try to touch obito while kamui is activated you aren’t coming in contact with kamui but rather an empty space so TSO can’t cancel kamui due to that….. but trying to touch GOJO you’d come in contact with infinity barrier and TSO can nullify it….
@ajayimoses2495
25 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves At the end of the day though Infinity is still made up of cursed energy Which is just going to get erased on contact by the TSO which can actually erase energy
@SalmanulFarisi101
6 ай бұрын
Itachi One Shots along with anyone with Genjutsu 🙌
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
It’s stopped by infinity or countered by RCT imo
@kenw4574
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesRCT I can somewhat buy, but Infinity is definitely not stopping a Genjutsu, since it messes with your senses directly without any speed or mass to slow down, exactly like how Hanami saves Jogo from Gojo/bypassing infinity by using their flowers to remove Gojo’s aggression.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@kenw4574 Genjutsu works via transferring chakra into the target’s brain (with sharingan genjutsu it’s through the eyes), so you’d have to explain how the chakra transfer happens if it’s not traveling through space. I don’t think Hanami’s illusions actually affected Gojo in the way most people do. I think he literally is just a goofy character in front of his students and Hanami is able to hide his presence well, so he was distracted, but I don’t think it proves RCT wouldn’t be able to counter genjutsu
@thefakebriskeh
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves chakra ignores physicality so it passes through the infinity. both hanami and jogos intangible attacks worked on him
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@thefakebriskeh Fire isn’t physical. Gojo’s infinity blocked Jogo’s fire. What attacks are you referring to?
@tmylm.qursey
6 ай бұрын
i like how unbiased you are in this video and actually explain some of the fights in depth and theyre abilities
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@Joey-Jdi
6 ай бұрын
Unbiased is wild
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@Joey-Jdi let’s hear it
@czms922
5 ай бұрын
@@Joey-Jdihe’s a Naruto content creator, but because Naruto characters aren’t winning then he’s biased
@Joey-Jdi
5 ай бұрын
I dont think you understand where gojo truly scales. JJK is not a strong verse. Black clover alone scales past manga jjk in the first 50 chapters scaling wise. Both sakuna an gojo are NOT powerhouses at all outside of their own verse@@czms922
@montyx2333
6 ай бұрын
I find the scaling of Obito to be extremely disingenuous and kamui would most certainly counter infinity in some capacity. Not even mentioning the fact that Kamui can BFR Gojo
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Obito cannot touch Gojo. He HAS to touch Gojo in order to warp him away. Even if he didn’t have to, Gojo counters with teleportation, just like Minato
@headcrap6152
Ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves gojo needs to hold both hands to use it, and if he gets sucked into kamui he cant get out, kamui is a sealed dimension he cant get out, its the same as the prison realm, he got trapped inside and he could not get out of it. even minato cant get out in the whole naruto show no has ever been able to teleport to the kamui dimension or out of it, it has only been obito ms. why would obito try to suck minato in? he already knew he could teleport, but he also knew he cant get out, thats why he tries to do it again when he escapes the first time, apparently he did not suck fast and hard enough that time. his biggest fumble
@ajayimoses2495
25 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Nope he really doesn’t have to actually Obito can use kamui within close range for opponents much slower than himself Like fuu was
@sageofthickcalves
25 күн бұрын
@@ajayimoses2495 true, but Gojo isn’t that much slower
@ajayimoses2495
22 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Nah gojo is realistically 2 blitz tiers below obito at all times 😂 But even I play advocate gojo would just stand there with infinity active and get absolutely bfred
@jotaktessier7108
5 ай бұрын
Im a gojo fan but this men is shaming me
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
💀
@i.q.1979
6 ай бұрын
What makes you think Gojo's physical stats are close to or on par with Rinnegan Obito, or even Madara?
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
I scaled him physically to Kakashi because his low end and high end lines of scaling are almost identical to Kakashi’s. Since war arc Kakashi is relative to war arc Obito physically, I scaled Gojo to him. However, I did make the point that alive Rinnegan Madara scales above war arc Kakashi so I scaled Gojo below him
@i.q.1979
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Okay. I agree. Two more questions. 1. Where does Gojo HIMSELF scale in the Narutoverse. I mean his physical stats. 2. Are Rinnegan Obito's physical stats relative or equal to reanimated Madara? I'm thinking 'Yes'. Mostly because of the Hashirama cells.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@i.q.1979 1: Depends on if you take high end or low end interpretations. On the low end, he’s roughly lighting speed (1/3 light speed), on the high end (I think the correct side) he’s slightly FTL. 2: I’d say yeah. Edo Madara scales a bit lower than his alive Rinnegan counterpart, so I think that’s fair
@headcrap6152
Ай бұрын
the insane man obito laying on the ground waited for kakashi to stab him because he knew kakashi would stop, he tells him you could have killed me when he you were punching a separate part of my body while amped by kurama and he was inside of the kamui dimension, he meant it then not right now, also how in the hell dose that make obito slower than Kakashi and also faster than madara? this mans logic works in mysteries ways. not the pleasant ones lol
@AaronRocha-bq9oz
20 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesIk im late but i wanted to say that gojo would be able to scale up to kakashi when he first unlocked kamui like you said the creator of jjk said that gojo is not as strong as kakashi because kamui is just like Amaterasu is spawns directly on to you
@mcsquigg37
Ай бұрын
I know you did it out of simplicity, but the real debate here is Gojo’s physicals compared to the Naruto verse. A majority of peeps would conclude that any JJK character gets blitzed by medium to higher end Naruto threats, so to ignore that completely by making Gojo relative to every version of Kakashi is both smart and also avoiding lolol
@sageofthickcalves
Ай бұрын
@@mcsquigg37 yeah his high end scaling gets him to FTL, though, so there is scaling you can use to get him to those levels
@mcsquigg37
Ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves I’ve read the arguments and I think it’s highballing pretty strongly. Even then, base Naruto characters are on that level and Gojo has to amp himself with Blue to get to that level if you’re highballing him extremely. For the most part the verses aren’t comparable
@sageofthickcalves
Ай бұрын
@@mcsquigg37 I mean…Gojo can easily get up to FTL without high balling. You just have to say that Kashimo’s electromagnetic wave attacks travel at relativistic speeds, like they would in real life, and then back scale Gojo above those since a fatigued Sukuna scales above them. It is a high end interpretation, but that’s different than a high ball.
@emssasukeisunderrated7946
6 ай бұрын
Great video as always and like usual (haha) there are points I disagree with. It is important to note especially for the vs. battles later in the series you're scaling his physicals to Kakashi. While part 1, unless using the highest interpretation, Kakashi and Gojo in the physicals should be pretty much the same. It's a lot of battles so of course there's some where I just have to disagree with. First is Hollow Purple being existence erasure is a whole can of worms and isn't even a definitive which sucks given the apparent mistranslations of JJK in general even by reputable sources such as Viz (I haven't done any self translations or anything). But regardless, the speed of this attack (assuming we correlate the speed of an attack to the user which in JJK isn't necessarily the case and neither is a person's durability equal or greater than there AP or DC like in Naruto) would not hit those who are just a whole tier ahead of Kakashi or even greater Orochimaru and Edo Hokage: Bringer of infinite darkness would work on Gojo given how the jutsu works. There's nothing to really say it wouldn't. Orochimaru is faster than this Gojo with Kakashi physicals and likewise the edo Hokage will keep regenerating even from getting hit with hollow purple. Itachi & Kisame: Yata Mirror would deflect hollow purple whether it's existence erasure or not. Truth seeker orbs which nullify all jutsu and can damage (or even arguably erase if imbued with yin-yang release) the soul and is a higher form of particle style, can leave a hole in Sasuke's susano'o hand but Sasuke can still use susano'o and the hole in his hand restored the next time he uses susano'o. These truth seeker orbs are on a whole different level than Yata Mirror which is even above particle style. To say tsukuyomi wouldn't work is just head canon considering that tsukuyomi is no ordinary genjutsu. There's no anti-feat to the fact if they lock eyes and Tsukuyomi is casted, they are done for. Nowhere is it stated for MS & greater genjutsu especially that of tsukuyomi that chakra needs to be travelled. Even then, it's a reach to say that it can be detected quick enough. Not to mention there's many subtle genjutsu that would be effective on Gojo as illusions are shown to be effective on him. Not necessarily viable win cons as I'm sure he'd detect it but Tsukuyomi is FOR SURE one. And RCT won't matter necessarily due to how Tsukuyomi works as it's more to do with breaking someone's will. Itachi at this point also has Shisui's stronger kotoamatsukami eye which would be overkill and I believe he won't need Obito: Obito DOES NOT need to touch someone to bring them into the kamui dimension. It's shown in the anime and manga version of his fight against Fu and Torune (chapter 475). They just need to be close. I don't think Gojo is able to touch Obito here so it's either win Obito or just draw Pain: Pain's chibaku tensei and large shinra tensei are beyond the physical capacity of Pain arc Kakashi or Gojo and his abilities. Blue isn't necessarily like Chibaku tensei but I get where you're going with it. These jutsu also work in terms of negating any of Gojo's attacks Edo Madara & Rinnegan Obito: First Obito is not getting blitzed, the panel and scene in anime shows that Kakashi entering the dimension is able to land on his feet and go towards Obito while Obito lands on his back and sees Kakashi coming. Obito and Madara should both scale beyond Kakashi (not massively but still a pretty sizeable gap) in speed considering both can fight against KCM2 Naruto and Mastered KCM version with Madara still holding back. Hollow purple again is not really existence erasure and regardless all of his attacks can get absorbed or negated by Madara & Obito via basic six paths rinnegan jutsu which both know. Izanagi like in Orange Mask Obito's case would work to create a diversion too. Alive Madara: Limbo completely bypasses infinity. It also would not be able to be detected by the Six Eyes. He would also get speed blitzed and get no diff considering ONE limbo clone could simultaneously no diff all 9 bijuu including KCM2 Naruto and Gaara and later Sasuke. If you think that Unlimited Void could be flexed out, then Madara is certainly far beyond this Gojo (with war arc Kakashi's physicals) in power. The gap is VERY wide. Wider than Juubito cause alive Madara with a rinnegan is stronger than Juubito. There's also the fact that you could argue that limbo can break him out the domain expansion or any clone Juubito: Assuming cursed energy and chakra are same here, truth seeker orb would 1) bypass infinity considering it could even damage a limbo clone 2) nullify all ninjutsu and 3) deal more significant damage than any attack Gojo has. Gojo is not capable of reacting to, attacking or tanking any damage from Juubito. He still has the rinnegan too. Also, the truth seeker orbs and Juubi provide greater regeneration than what RCT has been shown and similar to Alive Madara, domain expansion won't work. You could argue that Obito just traps Gojo in a barrier to stop him from teleporting. Obito is also not losing any chakra Juubidara: Even worse than Juubito and Alive Madara. This is no diff at all Kaguya: Absolutely no diff. She's just no diffing purple Sasuke: Absolutely no diff either. Chibaku tensei regardless but ESPECIALLY with Sasuke cause post six paths Sasuke's chibaku tensei it uses the variant of Six Paths Chibaku Tensei. The target themselves become the core. Even if you're near Sasuke's level of power or greater (Fused Momo) he can trap you in the chibaku tensei. Also rinnegan genjutsu that can counter INFINITE TSUKUYOMI should work on Gojo and Gojo is too slow and weak to even fatigue this Sasuke. Amenotejikara also has no counter
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
I appreciate you bro! I’ll go over this on a live at some point this week 🤙🏼
@AlanJia8
5 ай бұрын
I find simply assuming that Gojo scales to every Kakashi a bit of a leap
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I just did it to keep things simple because their low and high ends of scaling are similar
@eddieboston6540
5 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesno kakashi low end is higher then gojo higher end. Kakashi can keep up with kcm2 Naruto in the Obito fight that already faster then anyone in jjk The power difference is wild jjk being city level/mountain level vs large star/low end solar system war arc.
@Joey-Jdi
6 ай бұрын
Jjk gets solod by black clover's charmy and her cotton sheep alone . Jjk is not a strong verse
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
I don’t read black clover so idk
@ilovesteakandfries
13 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalveshe is unfortunately correct
@SilasMichaels
6 ай бұрын
SUPER excited to watch this. Don’t have 40 minutes right now, but I’ll listen to it on my drive to work 🙏🏼
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
🫡
@cjcj4861
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesno it does not matter where you scale Naruto villains Gojo is going to kill them all because you putting him in the Naruto world where Naruto fight his antagonists villains then yeah Gojo's going to kill them big fucking difference why what is the point of doing this video in the first place so what
@cjcj4861
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalveshey jackass curse Energy njjk Naruto chakra they're not the same what is the point if you trying to say they're similar when you're not you need to get your facts straight before you provide them point blank. This video makes no fucking sense whatsoever none absolutely nothing the level of bias is going to be in this video is going to be absolutely insane we already know you're going to have a Naruto villain when and Destroy Gojo I seen a lot of bias power scalers do this shit
@cjcj4861
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalveslet me stop you right there if you seen Gojo six eyes technique ability allow him to have every advantage over every fight then that means he beats almost everybody in Naruto I'm not even joking or trolling when I'm saying this I'm dead-ass serious I'm not even being a jjk fanboy I'm no fan boy I'm the guy who speaks the real truth and the honest truth common sense that's who I am what is the point of making this video in the first place stupid
@cjcj4861
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalveslook here I like the demon brothers and Naruto they may be cool and all that but they got defeated by Kakashi in part 1 of Naruto Zabuza and Haku they also my favorite characters but they're going to lose by Gojo's hands so you got those two right thank you at least somebody have common sense 1 + 1 equals 2
@thatguy9687
6 ай бұрын
In my opinion I believe that amaterasu works like a gun but the bullet is instantly in the desired target. The raikage did not dodge amaterasu, he dodged sasuke. He moved out of the area sasuke spawn it in cause he is significantly faster than sasuke, the amaterasu then moved to the next target in his vision. Rather than to say he dodged amaterasu, he reacted to its activation. But I see where you're coming from.
@thatguy9687
6 ай бұрын
Also I gotta point out that obitos kamui doesn't necessarily need touch to work, it's range is just smaller than kakashis. When he tried to teleport minato he grabbed him to make sure he doesn't "run away" you can see that the part of minato being pulled in was not the part he was holding on to. The case with kakashi is that he was literally thrown at obito as a projectile. Thus he grabbed him. There's no real proof that kamui ever needs contact, obito just does it cause his range is ass and he doesn't want the target to run.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
So if you go back and look at the panels, in the first panel we see the Amaterasu in front of a solid Raikage, then the next panel we see the Amaterasu in front of his after image. After this, it travels back toward the samurai who was behind Ay. So we know FOR SURE that Ay was physically behind the Amaterasu at first and THEN moved out of the way. Here’s the chapter (panels start bottom of pg. 12): www.mangapill.com/chapters/3070-10463000/naruto-digital-colored-comics-chapter-463
@thatguy9687
6 ай бұрын
@sageofthickcalves to me it looks like it was spawning on him but moved to the next target in the vision. I see what you mean tho. I'm probably wrong ig.
@thatguy9687
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves what about the kamui?
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@thatguy9687 the offensive, long range Kamui COULD work, as long as he can be perception blitzed with it
@daddyGbaby
6 ай бұрын
kisame sword doesnt have to hit you to absorb your chakra if it even grazes your aura like what we see with kid naruto and bee its gets absorbed. so unless his infinitiy barrier surrounds his aura as well gojo would have all his energy absorbed with one swing as kisame would not need to bypass his infnitity to absorb his chakra and samehada can absorb v2 cloak level of chakra in one go.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Gojo’s infinity isn’t a barrier
@eddieboston6540
5 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesis it a curse ability thought so kisame absorb it under a equal power system
@8CDBeach8
6 ай бұрын
If we’re treating CE like Chakra and infinity is a curse technique would Samehada not be able to eat through it?
@8CDBeach8
6 ай бұрын
Also you understand Kamui wouldn’t require Obito to travel and touch Gojo conventionally. If Tobi just becomes solid once again, returning to the normal dimension, he could grab Gojo. And saying Kakashi was on par with Tobi is willlld. Infinity wouldn’t effect Tobi while he’s on another plane of existence still passively moving forward in a world where the CE of infinity isn’t actively
@8CDBeach8
6 ай бұрын
Also we know illusions work on Gojo because Hanami got him when they came to save Jogo. We also know things like sound based attacks are effective, and on top of that he has to program infinity to pick up on certain things meaning techniques with a ratio he couldn’t prepare for should be able to make contact
@8CDBeach8
6 ай бұрын
Infinity is a technique using Limitless to expand space infinitely. It’s Gojo using his cursed energy to manipulate space. Abilities that absorb CE should be able to absorb it.
@8CDBeach8
6 ай бұрын
Also we skipped a couple Edo fights like Nagato who should be able to absorb infinity but even if for some reason we say he can’t, he would definitely be able to absorb red, blue, and purple. Which would only fuel Nagato and drain Gojo. And then even if we say Domain Expansion. 1 it’s an Edo so that’s debatable on the amount of damage it would do. And 2 it’s still a cursed technique with CE so it should be absorbable. Speaking ooof Alive Madara with the Rinnegan has the ability to absorb techniques as well
@8CDBeach8
6 ай бұрын
No shot…no shooooot is Juubito running out of juice before Gojo💀
@CometsFlame
6 ай бұрын
id agrue he cant stop chakra, with the fact that chakra is far less tangiable than air, and gojo can stop a poison cloud automatically and same with the Totsuka blade, furthermore id say a Tsukiyomi is a def win since he could make gojo live his whole life in a pico second just like he did with girl he liked.
@CometsFlame
6 ай бұрын
id argue kisame can do alot mroe here as well with just his sword that can cut through chakra meaning it could cut through gojo's infinity
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
If he can stop cursed energy, he should be able to stop chakra since they’re equalized. Totsuka Blade has to move and is made of spiritual energy, which is effectively what cursed energy is, so it should be able to be stopped. Tsukuyomi’s chakra is either stopped by infinity or Gojo’s brain is automatically repaired by RCT. Since Gojo’s infinity isn’t a barrier, but instead, space manipulation. If you argue Kisame can cut through that, you’d have to argue he can cut through Kamui and FTG. Doesn’t make sense, right?
@potheadraccoon8536
6 ай бұрын
the glaze is unreal lmfao@@sageofthickcalves
@CometsFlame
6 ай бұрын
@sageofthickcalves first off wasn't the damage to the brain that killed her she lived an entire life then died from it because her brain believed so also you can t keep all of gojos mechanics for his eyes and not the others from naruto, toji was able to cut through infinity despite it being " space mainpulation" it clearly had an area of effect barrier. if toji sword got through then so would kisames, as we have seen with samehada, it can infact cut through jutsu like with the fire ball,we have not seen it interact with ftg or kamui, but both are space and time technique not just a space technique
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@potheadraccoon8536 which part do you disagree with and why?
@elijahgrennan9429
6 ай бұрын
Tsukayomi doesn’t work like regular genjutsu though it doesn’t effect the chakra flow of other people but effects them directly
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
He still has to inject his chakra into them, though
@YoungShonen
5 ай бұрын
So many assumptions for gojo so he can win😂 professionally bias
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
What assumptions did I make that were unfair?
@YoungShonen
5 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves a base assumption is assuming six eyes is on the same level of perception as the sharingan without evidence to back it up
@YoungShonen
5 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves and direct misinformation on gojo’s abilities the fan book has an entire page going over infinity just plan proving what you said wrong about it
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
@@YoungShonen I broke down why it gives him enhanced perception and allows him to see the flow of cursed energy, much like the sharingan allows for enhanced perception and the ability to see chakra. Where was I wrong?
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
@@YoungShonen how specifically was my breakdown of limitless incorrect?
@yamamotogotbodied1606
6 ай бұрын
Super interesting concept for the Gojo scaling and great video! Just came from the Sukuna vs Akatsuski vid, so I thought Gojo was gonna scale to Sukuna but this is definitely more interesting.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! 🙏🏼
@user-cb9tj8gn3b
6 ай бұрын
Another gojo fan,what can i sqy(and no i hate naruto and still i think this is cap)
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
I’d love to hear what exactly you disagreed with 🙏🏼
@Mrjakokos
5 ай бұрын
Sasuke lights himself up with amaterasu and uses amenotejikara to transfer it to Gojo, gg
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
Amaterasu remains on whatever it’s touching
@eddieboston6540
5 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesyea gojo until he dies
@DiepreyeMoses
Ай бұрын
Bro you’re wrong on multiple parts….. GOJO is no where near the speed of masked OBITO… and only reason it seem like kakashi blitz obito was because obito landed on his back meanwhile kakashi landed on his feet while being prepared to strike obito immediately, meaning obito was not expecting that attack and he also wasn’t in the right position to avoid the attack…… And also did you forget about kamui by obito, it’s clearly evident kamui would bypass infinity, sukuna has shown us that /. Obito has shown taking people into the kamui dimension even without touching them and obito could just walk through infinity and then touch GOJO and get him into the kamui dimension….. Kamui added with masked obito speed is really overkill….. we saw obito keeping up with kmc2 Naruto and might guy with ease….. the same kmc2 Naruto that kakashi mistakes for Minato due to how fast Naruto moved and deflected those incoming bijuu bombs….. With the current stage in JJK manga it’s clear nobody is FLT+ every character is literally keeping up with sukuna😂 and landing blows on him and those characters are nothing close to FLT if sukuna was truly FTL he would have no trouble blitzing the likes of Yujis brother… maki…. YUTA….. YUJI…. Miguel….. and TODO….. Using a single manga panel to say sukuna is FLT therefore GOJO is FLT is really wrong…. Naruto has proven multiple times that they’re FLT in speed and it has been stated even in the Manga and anime but JJK has never pointed out that a character is FLT…. You’re really high balling GOJO and low balling Naruto characters….. Saying GOJO stands a chance against one eyed rennegan Madara ( not jubidara) is clearly a joke….. Madara was able to knock out all tailed beast with one limbo attack that’s more than enough strength to put a hole through GOJO’s head…..given that yuji was able to punch a hole through sukuna and sukuna had shown more durability feats than GOJO… And limbo is clearly bypassing infinity….. limbo exists and at the same time doesn’t exist meaning you can’t touch, perceive, or see limbo clones… unlesss you’re Sasuke or Naruto even Sasuke that could see limbo couldn’t interact with them…. Let’s not forget that Madara was so strong he one shot every character he came against and absorbed all tailed beast…. He stabbed Sasuke through the heart and that Sasuke was clearly leagues above kakashi that you’re scaling GOJO to…. Tbh I like your videos but sometimes you highball a character too much while low balling another character..
@bishopdaking717
5 ай бұрын
If you are equalizing energy then chakra fatigue isn’t an option for anyone with the rinnegan, like Obito & Sasuke. Even if you say they can’t absorb the neutral limitless All CE attacks can b absorbed including Domains. So gojo doesn’t really have any win cons against Kaguya, Sasuke, Obito, Madara & Nagato.
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
Well, with his domain, while it can be absorbed, they’d have to consciously absorb it. If their brain is fried from unlimited void, that’s not happening. But yeah for Kaguya that should work because UV shouldn’t really affect her. Same with Juubi Madara I would assume
@eddieboston6540
5 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesgojo would dies before he gets the chance to use it dude slow as hell in Naruto verse
@Arcadia_warlic
6 ай бұрын
Orochimaru's Edo Tensei are not disabled with his death, that is never suggested. Hiruzen himself notes he has to deal with the binding instead. Questionable if Purple would be enough to negate Edo Tensei as Truth Seeking Orbs only gained that property after having Yin-Yang Release applied unto them and Sukuna managed to physically withstand one being shot at him, so Purple might more so just crush the Edo Tensei into paste before they are restored. Tsunade did not cancel out the genjutsu, it just restored the damage. If Kakashi had a regeneration technique running, genjutsu would disrupt it since it affected the flow of his chakra which is needed to use the technique (if the energies are equalized, then the genjutsu would do similar damage to his abilities). Even if not, Itachi can kill with Tsukuyomi, so there is nothing to regenerate from. Alternatively, Itachi can trick Gojo into firing an attack at himself (not certain how a Purple would interact with Infinity) like how he did with Deidara, if the genjutsu actually connected. Gojo also is directly shown not to be immune to illusions since the field of flowers illusion affected him for a time which would be far less impactful than Tsukuyomi. Amaterasu is directly said to appear at the user's focal point. It seems that A moved out of the way of where Sasuke was looking so the focal point changed to the samurai behind him. Similarly, it spawned on Obito's staff when he brought it out in front of himself when he saw it being built up by Sasuke. Kisame can provide Itachi essentially infinite stamina through Samehada as it could restore him after getting his ribcage torn open. Kisame can flood the battlefield and even if the water does not reach Gojo he will not be able to fire attacks out since the infinite space goes both ways. He will essentially be stuck in his own bubble unless he releases the infinity. Kamui has warped people away before without touching them, such as Konan or Fū, and since Kamui warps space-time, it might bypass the Infinity altogether. Izanami might work in theory, if Obito elects to use it. Obito can also pull out the Uchiha Gunbai from Kamui and use it to reflect Red or Purple back and Gojo, and I am not certain how that would interact with Infinity. The Infinity makes space betwixt himself and whatever the offending entity is. Attractive and repulsion is not really an entity it can interact with, since it is not like he is making infinite space betwixt himself and the ground. He was even worrying about poison gas getting through and noting he would need to work on it (unconfirmed if he did). I think blast wave might be beyond its ability to "comprehend". Chibaku Tensei can overpower weaker attacks than itself as even B's bijūdama was insufficient to overcome it on its own. Purple may be too weak if it does not actually erase from reality (see above). Dōjutsu cannot track the Six Paths of Pain. Not Kakashi's Sharingan or any of the Byakugan could do so, and both can track the flow of chakra otherwise. The chakra is wirelessly transmitted through the receivers at an ever changing frequency such that the only way for it to be tracked is via the receivers themselves. Fū's scale powder reflects regular light which Infinity likely would not be able to block, which would blind Gojo, letting Obito close the distance and warp Gojo away via Kamui without making contact. Madara might also be able to reflect purple with the Uchiha Gunbai if he has it on hand. Gojo is less likely to start up with his strongest attack whilst Madara has used Limbo fairly casually against the likes of Sasuke. Depending on how exactly a domain is formed Madara might also be able to absorb it with Gakidō. Obito could just send Gojo into space or destroy the planet they are standing on which would suffocate Gojo, and Gojo has no real way of stopping him due to the power differential. Also a theoretical possibility for weaker characters but it becomes most obvious here. If Sasuke's Shinra Tensei hits Gojo it might just kill him on the spot. Sasuke can also fire out multiple Chibaku Tensei which Gojo might not be able to stop in time before he is sealed, and even if he can break out of a seal, during that time Sasuke can start draining chakra from the Chibaku Tensei, ultimately fatiguing Gojo. If Gojo tries firing Purple at them, whilst it is already questionable if they would even be strong enough, Sasuke can just absorb them, cancel them out with his own techniques, or at least redirect them. Sending Gojo into space is also another option.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
- Itachi’s interaction with Kabuto seems to imply that only Kabuto’s version of Edo isn’t undone by death. - Sukuna survived the explosion, not a direct hit. - Yeah I said RCT would instantly restore him from the affects of the genjutsu. Tsukuyomi is basically instant, so it would be as if he was never hit. But I do think it’s stopped by infinity regardless. As far as the flower illusion, I don’t think that’s a good example of Gojo’s infinity being bypassed by cursed energy. I think he’s just a silly character and that’s what was shown there. - We literally see Amaterasu appear in front of Ay, he moves out of the way, and it moves and hits the samurai. I put the scans on screen brother. - Kisame’s nearly infinite stamina will eventually wear down. Gojo’s won’t. Gojo can escape the bubble via teleportation. - Teleportation still counters Kamui regardless. Izanagi doesn’t do anything because it’s not going to eliminate Gojo’s defenses. The Gunbai would be interesting if we knew purple bypasses infinity. - Yeah I think the Deva path’s abilities should “work”, but they’re still countered by teleportation. As far as poison, he says he’s working on it, but obviously it’s unconfirmed if he’s mastered it. Even if he hasn’t, we saw Hakari’s RCT counter toxins. - Even if purple can’t destroy the CT core, teleportation counters. - The six eyes give Gojo the ability to see kilometers away, so I think he’d probably sense Nagato regardless. - Yeah I agree Limbo would be used first - Obito destroying the planet is a win con, but not necessarily in character. He can’t send him into space without touching him, though. - Yeah Sasuke doesn’t show that he has shinra tensei though, so I’m not really sure about that one. CT is countered via teleportation. How does Sasuke send him to space?
@Arcadia_warlic
6 ай бұрын
Kabuto is describing the Edo Tensei in general. Summons are generally not tied to the user. Enma did not immediately vanish when Hiruzen died. Obito threatened to bring the world to an end when he clashed his world-breaking sword against Naruto and Sasuke. Chibaku Tensei is a more advanced form of Tendō than Shinra Tensei is.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@Arcadia_warlic Kabuto specifically says his version of the jutsu won’t be stopped even if he dies. Since Itachi believes killing him should undo the Edo tensei, I think it’s fair to assume Orochimaru’s version prior to the war arc had that limitation in place. If you don’t think so, that’s ok. Equal interpretations. Yeah Obito could just start destroying the planet (can’t do it in one shot, but he could definitely do it given time), but this is in character. Once his mind is steadied, he won’t actually do that because it goes against his goals. Unstable Juubito loses via DE, so I don’t think Juubito has valid win cons in character. Chibaku tensei is still able to be countered by teleportation.
@Arcadia_warlic
6 ай бұрын
He did not just say his jutsu. He said it is the ultimate advantage of the Edo Tensei itself, not that he somehow changed the jutsu. To be able to use Chibaku Tensei is to be able to use Shinra Tensei. Sasuke can also counter teleportation by teleporting Gojo into the gravity sphere itself which, even if Gojo breaks out of, will start sapping his chakra. Alternatively he can teleport chakra rods into Gojo's body like he did to Madara which will paralyze him.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@Arcadia_warlic Page 16 Kabuto says “THIS Edo tensei jutsu will not come undone even if you kill me”. Itachi responds by saying things aren’t always as you wish, because his plan was to kill Kabuto to undo the jutsu. That’s simply not true. Chibaku tensei and shinra tensei are two separate jutsu. They’re never stated to be the same or even variants of one another. I do lean in the direction of Sasuke being able to use it, at least as an adult, but it’s never shown or stated. Sasuke’s aminotejikara allows for him to switch places with things. He can’t just force Gojo to teleport into the gravity sphere. Even if Gojo gets caught in it, it likely wouldn’t touch him. He also can’t teleport chakra rods into Gojo. He’s never shown the ability to just make chakra rods appear in someone’s body.
@nwk1626
6 ай бұрын
This is the best i’ve heard anyone explain gojos abilities HOLDON THO sage kabuto claps 👀
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! 🙏🏼 I kept Sage Kabuto out for a reason 👀 Gojo vs Kabuto video coming soon 🔥
@thefakebriskeh
6 ай бұрын
lmfao gojos stats dont even get him above city level hebi sasuke negging
@The__Deadman
5 ай бұрын
@@thefakebriskeh Lol right. Gojo is heavily wanked here. Saying that Orochimaru is weaker than him is crazy. Oro scales much higher, is more versatile with crazy regen. The only thing Gojo has is his hax defense. Orochimaru can't touch him but Gojo can't do anything either, there's nothing Orochimaru can't dodge with the big speed gap or regen from. Orochimaru is much more powerful, just no hax to bypass infinity. Itachi negs Gojo, no way he said Gojo beats Kisame and Itachi lol
@chance2110
6 ай бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the manga directly refers to hollow purple as imaginary mass.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
At 18:35 you can see an editor statement showing why it’s a mistranslation and actually means “virtual mass”
@chance2110
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Ok thanks
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@chance2110 🫡
@marikuami6840
6 ай бұрын
i still think that time travel arc ment more then we think..along with that jashin arc
@Friendly_G
3 ай бұрын
Gojo at the point of kakashis scaling in part 1 is NOT touching orochimaru 😂. Honestly orochi is running and gojo and not going to able to keep up even with tp
@sageofthickcalves
3 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t matter because Orochimaru has no way around infinity
@Friendly_G
3 ай бұрын
@sageofthickcalves Never said orochi is winning. I'm saying Gojo is not touching orochi meaning orochi would have to flee 😑. Orochi fleeing means gojo therefore wins
@momotheone9700
6 ай бұрын
Tbh this is some hard CAP
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Let’s hear that explanation Momo
@jag-hw7wd
3 ай бұрын
Itachi's Tsukuyomi and other Genjutsu would be able to bypass Gojo's Infinity because it has to be able to perceive it as a threat (i.e. something that can damage him if it hits him). This is shown on multiple occasions to be the case as when he first starts developing Infinity into a passive barrier (yes, I said barrier) where Geto throws an eraser at Gojo while Shoko throws a pen. The pen gets stopped by Infinity while the eraser bounces off Gojo, but does no damage. Another example is how Hanami affects Gojo with Jujutsu to take away his killer intent momentarily. Yet another example is when Utahime tries to throw water onto Gojo, he has to weave a hand sign to make sure Infinity doesn't let it get through. There are a few others, but I think you get the point. If something that Gojo/Infinity doesn't deem an attack threatening to his well being, it will get through unless Gojo actively doesn't allow it to get through. A beam of chakra that has no mass wouldn't pose any threat to Gojo, so therefore Tsukuyomi and Itachi's other Genjutsu would go through. Tsukuyomi and likely his other Genjutsu scales above light speed due the databook statement and is consistent with Itachi's combat speed, so Gojo would not be able to react to it since I don't believe any of the light speed JJK scaling (I've heard all the arguments and they haven't changed my mind). I'm not going to make an argument against the RCT healing brain damage because I could go either way on that, but I don't think it matters since Tsukuyomi would at the very least give Itachi an opening to mind control Gojo into dropping Infinity and then Amaterasu or Totsuka Blade GG. Kisame would also be able to bypass Infinity through Samehada. Not only would Infinity have to be made out of cursed energy because it is a cursed technique, it also quite obviously a barrier as shown when Toji clearly pierces through it with the Inverted Spear of Heaven. Orange Mask Obito would probably just phase through Gojo's Infinity and then unphase when he's already in contact with Gojo or he could Genjutsu mind control Gojo into taking down Infinity since he was able to do it to Yagura. White Mask can also absorb Infinity via Preta Path based on the Kisame point. Pain would be able to absorb Infinity via the Preta Path as previously established by Kisame. You could maybe make an argument that Gojo could tank a regular Shinra Tensei from Pain, but I refuse to believe that he would be able to tank a full power Chaotic Shinra Tensei and not get blown to smithereens, especially since it would be focused on only Gojo rather than having to go through all of the buildings and structures of Konoha which is likely why so many people survived it. He would end up like the end of the Sukuna fight, at the very least. Edo Madara could be able to win via a similar mind control Genjutsu GG as Itachi, but that one I'm not so sure on because I don't think Madara is as good at Genjutsu as Itachi. I honestly don't know what you were thinking for Jubito because Truth Seeking Orbs would obviously nullify Infinity. It's simple, Inverted Spear of Heaven is a physical object that nullifies all Cursed Techniques and it got through Infinity. Truth Seeking Orbs are also physical objects that nullify all Ninjutsu which we are equalizing as Cursed Techniques, so therefore it has to be able to bypass Infinity. Sasuke wins via Genjutsu or Shinra Tensei GG because he scales far above both Itachi and Pain in those aspects at this point.
@MATI640
4 ай бұрын
IMO truth seeking orbs >>>>>> hollow purple
@sageofthickcalves
4 ай бұрын
Yeah probably. I’ve changed my stance on that
@Kinglionoflocs
6 ай бұрын
Gojo stamps all the villains is a crazy feat
@kenjiyst1352
6 ай бұрын
I have an idea for how Sasuke might win against Gojo. He could wait for Gojo to launch Hollow Purple at him, wait till the last second before it hits, and switch places with Gojo. In theory Hollow Purple should negate infinity (I think??) and hit Gojo.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
That is a solid theory, but I’m pretty positive Gojo didn’t have his infinity active at that point in the fight vs Sukuna. We see Mahoraga adapt to it, and then Sukuna and Azure both land blows on him right before the hollow purple is launched. Because if this, I don’t think it was active. So you could just argue it would still be stopped by infinity, but you could also argue that because it affects space as well that it could affect it. It’s unclear.
@starslight-x3o
6 ай бұрын
Sasuke would likely use Amenotejikara earlier in the fight, allowing Gojo to see it's capabilities are, and then, to be 100% safe, he would unleash a 0.2 second DE and then launch Hollow Purple, ensuring a victory.
@potheadraccoon8536
6 ай бұрын
why would sasuke use a technique against someone who is inferior to him in every stat right out of the gate sasuke isnt stupid he only uses that jutsu when he starts getting dominated (especially since its a chakra heavy jutsu)case and point sasuke vs momo and kinshiki @@starslight-x3o
@helixsol7171
6 ай бұрын
Couldn't Samehada absorb the cursed energy generating the Limitless? Edit: You showed a panel of Kisame using a jutsu that absorbs the chakra of an intercepting attack in order to bolster its own power at the same time you say Kisame is going to easily go down. On top of that, my Samehada question applies again, what prevents them from just absorbing Gojo's attacks? Double Edit: Does it matter if the Limitless is a barrier or not if it still requires cursed energy to work?
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Great questions. - Samehada could likely absorb any CE it comes in contact with. However, in the same way that a Kamui portal isn’t “made of” chakra, infinity isn’t “made of” CE. They both use chakra/CE to manipulate the space itself, but there’s no chakra/CE in the space. Therefore, there’s nothing there for samehada to absorb. - Again, infinity can’t be absorbed, but you could argue maybe red could. In terms of blue and purple, though, I’m not sure because of how they work. - Yes it matters because saying infinity can be absorbed is just like saying Kamui or FTG can. It logically doesn’t make sense because there’s nothing to absorb.
@ajayimoses2495
25 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Kamui’s only relationship with chakra is in the depletion aspect it strains on the user itself Other than that it’s simply a tear in the fabric of space Limitless on the other hand is CE constantly applying the laws of relative infinity no CE = no Infinity no chakra at the point of warping =/= no kamui
@raoufdali1049
6 ай бұрын
For Madara VS Gojo I do agree with you that Limbo bypass Infinity completely they existe outside the real plan of existance and the interaction with Limbo is only one directional The Limbo affect the real world but the opposite is impossible So the Limbo clones are win conditions for Madara that Gojo can't counter Even he shouldn't be able to detect them only the Rinnegan was able to see them
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
100% agree
@raoufdali1049
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves can you please confirme somthing for me please Between all the Magnet Release users only Garra has the automatic defense all the others have to manually defend themselves
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@raoufdali1049 his automatic defense isn’t magnet release. It’s his mother’s chakra controlling the sand to defend him
@raoufdali1049
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves so I was right about it being unique to him thank you
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@raoufdali1049 100%
@Hcjeiwjc
Ай бұрын
Chakra absorbing could work with verse equilization since technically infinity is brought to existance using cursed energy. You could also speed blitz it by moving faster than the rate at which gojo divided the space but that's just a theory
@sageofthickcalves
Ай бұрын
@@Hcjeiwjc do you think Kamui can be absorbed?
@Hcjeiwjc
Ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves It depends. It could absorb the chakra maintaining the portal to destroy it but if the portal fully formed doesn't require chakra then there's a chacne it won't be able to be absorbed
@sageofthickcalves
Ай бұрын
@@Hcjeiwjc the problem is there’s no evidence that the CE, or chakra for Naruto, is actually existing in that space. The Kamui portal can be opened using chakra without chakra from the MS actually physically being in the space the Kamui portal is forming in. Same with limitless. The CE can be in his brain, but still affecting the space around him. It’s not ever described as a wall of CE or anything like that.
@Hcjeiwjc
Ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Isn’t it though. The way infinity works is that Gojo divided the space using limitless which is done by cursed energy. Infinity can’t be maintained without it since if there’s no energy he can’t divide the space.
@sageofthickcalves
Ай бұрын
@@Hcjeiwjc again, he could be affecting the space without his CE actually entering the space itself, much like Kamui could be affecting the space it’s targeting without actually existing in said space
@agahuseynov7608
6 ай бұрын
First TG and now Sage I love the gojo vids 🔥
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
TG/Sage collab on JJK coming soon 🙏🏼
@SeeZer0
3 ай бұрын
16:15 Ameterasu “spawns” on top of the opponent but if your fast enough you can perceive/ dodge it Ay is close or even on light speed level while gojo is only lighting speed (due to upscaling from hakari vs kashimo)
@SeeZer0
3 ай бұрын
And also the way Itachi and Sasukes are different Itachis “spawns” instantly while sasukes can travel and be controlled which it would actually be negated by infinity
@sageofthickcalves
3 ай бұрын
I detail in the video how we see it move
@dirge44
3 ай бұрын
@sageofthickcalves I'm pretty sure ay was aim dodging, it's always shown to simply appear on opponents when we see it from a side ways perspective as when he was trying to tag Sasuke with it, we don't see traveling through the air as it should be. Also Sasuke should be able to cloak himself in amatarasu and form a blade made out of it where he is, and simply switch places with gojo and gojo would be engulfed in flames
@sageofthickcalves
3 ай бұрын
@@dirge44 we can see it appearing in front of Ay. It’s only aim dodging if he moves before it reaches the spot he’s in
@SatorisYT
6 ай бұрын
Out of fear of JJK manga spoilers that I haven't heard yet, I'll refrain from watching the video for now, but the intro is dope!
@SatorisYT
6 ай бұрын
Fuelling the algorithm
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much bro! Honestly, there aren’t many spoilers of note here. Some abilities, but no real plot points are spoiled
@SatorisYT
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Alright, that's good to hear. I'll put it on then!
@lowkeycolors
6 ай бұрын
The goat is back
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
🫡
@luluex3
Ай бұрын
Itachi's Tsukuyomi functions differently depending on whether or not Itachi is trying to kill with it (see: the difference between how Kakashi reacted to Tsukuyomi and how Izumi reacted). So, if Tsukuyomi hits, RCT might not do anything to help Gojo depending on if Itachi is trying to kill Gojo.
@luluex3
Ай бұрын
Also, should infinity be considered a barrier? By that I mean, are the things that infinity stops touching *nothing* or are they touching a barrier? Because multiple people, including Jogo, have literally stated touching *something*, even if that something isn't Gojo. Also also, Obito has NEVER been shown being exhausted and running low on either stamina or chakra. There's literally nothing to substantiate the idea that Gojo could outlast Obito in any respect. Gojo has been shown to be exhausted in his fight with Sukuna, who Obito is blatantly superior to. Obito, on the other hand, like I've already mentioned, there's literally never been a scene or statement of Obito being exhausted of either his chakra or stamina.
@luluex3
Ай бұрын
Also, I get that Infinity is super broken, but can we stop acting like RCT is some perfect get out of jail free card when in reality it's a weaker, less efficient version of the 100 Healings? I mean, there's a reason Gojo's dead and Tsunade's not. Reverse Curse Technique just isn't that op, and if something instantly kills him (Tsukuyomi), RCT isn't going to help him. Again, there's a reason Gojo is dead.
@DiepreyeMoses
Ай бұрын
@@luluex3thanks man you understand Naruto…… RCT isn’t broken….. even Madara has better regenerative abilities than the entirety of JJK. YUTA died cut in half GOJO dies cut in half, Madara completely regenerates half of his body twice… from nothing….
@jason15212
6 ай бұрын
So the different level of strength of the genjustu doesn’t matter vs gojo at all?
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Probably not. The chakra is likely stopped by infinity, but even if it isn’t, RCT should instantly repair his brain from the affects, effectively breaking him out of it and restoring him to normal.
@bongaloyiso6152
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesThat does work with that logic gojo needs to actively select when its ce based and chakra is not physical unless stated otherwise ce is .
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@bongaloyiso6152 there’s nothing stating the CE he stops has to be physical. He stops Jogo’s fire and fire isn’t a physical object
@whoizray_
6 ай бұрын
let’s goo some jjk vs naruto ‼️
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
More to come 🙏🏼
@marcus7984
6 ай бұрын
Orochimaru'a blood is poison and it could hit Gojo, if he trys rip Orochimaru's head off here
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Where is it stated that his blood is poison? I know it is in his white snake form, but I don’t think that’s stated normally
@bongaloyiso6152
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesIn the manga due to being white snake he releases poisonous vapor
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@bongaloyiso6152 yeah that’s only in the white snake form, though. Also, I don’t think his blood would get on Gojo because of infinity
@ajayimoses2495
25 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Nope As soon as domain expansion goes off gojo loses his CT So 😂 He gets possessed by orochimaru unfortunately
@JacksonBriggs-ji7rz
6 ай бұрын
The GOAT back again 🙏🏼
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
🫡
@cringewyrm
6 ай бұрын
I'd love more jjk power scaling 💯💯
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@cringewyrm Kashimo vs Minato w/ Virhtue coming this month 🤙🏼
@levighoul1710
3 ай бұрын
Miguels whip was able to affect gojos ce, this opens win cons you deflected in the vid. Also sealing jutsu is massively overlooked you could seal gojo very similarity to how kenjaku did it. Also gojo cant just purple everyone considering how hanami could avoid it, sukuna survived AND healed from it (also shown deflecting it), and toji died from missing a hole in chest rather than just being hit with purple and "erased". Just because gojo can see ce and ct doesn't mean he can nullify or heal from genjutsu. Sharingan users can be put in genjutsu its just requires mastery and skill something gojo would lack even in kakashis position. Itachi wasnt trying to kill kakashi and the damage was severe to put him down until tsunade came. Gojos infinity would not be able to save him from infinite tsukiyomi or even shisuis genjutsu since it explicitly doesnt even make the user aware they're under genjutsu.
@extremelyvividcardgames7890
24 күн бұрын
Purple wouldn't have erasure on the level of a TSO. If that was the case then when Toji revived during Shibuya he would have a massive hole and would be missing an arm. When Minato got hit with TSOs the soul portion of both his arms got erased, you can see when the edo tensei was released and his soul went back to the pure lands.
@sageofthickcalves
24 күн бұрын
@@extremelyvividcardgames7890 TSOs don’t destroy the soul. They nullify ninjutsu. The reason why Minato’s arm didn’t come back isn’t because the arm part of his soul was erased, it’s because the TSOs negate the regeneration ability of Edo. Pages 3-5: www.mangapill.com/chapters/3070-10642000/naruto-digital-colored-comics-chapter-642 Also, on the page you’re referring to (page 22) we just see Minato break apart into paper and then disappear. We don’t actually see his soul leave his body with no arms. www.mangapill.com/chapters/3070-10691000/naruto-digital-colored-comics-chapter-691
@extremelyvividcardgames7890
24 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves the body around the soul disintegrates, but the soul itself still hasn't got arms. The anime does the exact same thing, you see the soul leaving the host body and the arms aren't there when he's ascending.
@sageofthickcalves
24 күн бұрын
@@extremelyvividcardgames7890 the manga never shows the soul by itself. The anime isn’t canon
@nickeayres6295
6 ай бұрын
I am curious on what do you think if Infinity can block limbo clones? Also i do still agree it wont just wondering how that would go then
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
If it could block Limbo, Madara probably uses Infinite Tsukuyomi and it’s likely GG. Gojo is stated to manipulate space on an atomic level, so subatomic particles like photons would likely get through
@L0g8008
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Photons get through? Light fang gg
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@L0g8008 should be a gg, yeah. You could argue aim dodge, though
@erdodimate9017
5 ай бұрын
White mask obito reacted to kcm 2 naruto kakashi guy and bee ,but he's slower than Gojo
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
I scaled Gojo directly to Kakashi, who blitzes Obito in chapter 629
@luluex3
Ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves wouldn't that make Kakashi faster than KCM2 Naruto considering White Mask Obito consistently reacts to that Naruto?
@sageofthickcalves
Ай бұрын
@@luluex3 KCM2 Naruto is physically > WM Obito, so no
@starslight-x3o
6 ай бұрын
Gojo is a pretty interesting character to scale, mainly because of the fact that you can't use the argument "Well the weaker character can beat him, which means the stronger character can as well." Which is exactly while I think that Gojo would lose to Juubidara strictly because of the Limbo Clones, but would beat Kaguya even though she's stronger than Madara. Sending him to the lava dimension won't matter, he can fly. The ice in the ice dimension would be hard countered by Infinity, and sending him to the dimension that Sasuke went to would end in a stalemate, unless you think Gojo can teleport within dimensions. Infinite Tsukuyomi won't work due to it being a genjutsu, which is ineffective against Gojo, Truth-Seeking Balls won't work due to either Infinity or constant RCT. Meanwhile, Gojo has a couple of win conditions against Kaguya. Purple & Domain Expansion to be specific. Now, the argument of countering DE with speed can be effective, but only if you use a standard DE. However, Gojo can unleash a non-barrier, 0.2 second DE that can very temporarily paralyze Kaguya, at least enough for him to charge a 200% Hollow Purple which, once fired at her, would erase her from existence due to Purple's Mass-Erasing capabilites.
@numberhunter62
6 ай бұрын
The fact that Mahito exists in JJK and his thing is Soul Manipulation anyone who can actually damage him has the ability to bypass the Edo-Tensei regen.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
That’s a fair point 🤔
@mathewrivera6947
6 ай бұрын
no, try again, that's not a thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@mathewrivera6947 why not? Damaging the soul would damage Edo
@sageoverheaven
6 ай бұрын
@@mathewrivera6947 Yes it is lmao.
@mathewrivera6947
6 ай бұрын
@@sageoverheaven no... it isnt, watch the god damn show
@nobody5066
6 ай бұрын
Just like obito Gojo's infinity breaks when he touches someone. If gojo does touch obito and obito can react in Time. He could teleport gojo to the kamui dimension and leave there to die. 🤔
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
That’s not technically true. He can deactivate it to touch someone, but he can “touch someone” without actually touching them. When he’s juggling Jogo with punches, his infinity is still active.
@monkiyaz
6 ай бұрын
Amenotejikara could probably tag Gojo if he swaps one of Gojo’s attacks or simply something Gojo’s holding.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Potentially, but Gojo doesn’t typically hold anything and his infinity should stop any of his attacks aside from blue
@monkiyaz
6 ай бұрын
Sept his mask
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@monkiyaz he doesn’t hold it, he just pulls it down. We’ve never seen Sasuke swap places with someone’s clothes, though, so that doesn’t seem like a possibility
@monkiyaz
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Unless Gojo’s planning on fighting Sasuke butt naked, his clothes are still an option.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@monkiyaz Prove he can swap places with clothes people are wearing. If he could, we should’ve seen something similar to that by now
@ajayimoses2495
25 күн бұрын
Infinity couldn’t stop hanami’s pollen cursed energy from slowing gojo down Definitely not stopping something as complicated as an ephemeral or tsukuyomi Or even an amaterasu which spawns on target
@sageofthickcalves
25 күн бұрын
@@ajayimoses2495 1: Hanami’s pollen creates an illusion in real life, not by injecting CE into the target’s brain 2: Gojo says infinity blocks cursed energy 3. Amaterasu does not spawn directly on the target. We see this when Ay dodges it, but we can see part of the Amaterasu in FRONT of his real body.
@MayoTheNnaise
6 ай бұрын
nah, sasuke has a win condition
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
What is it?
@MayoTheNnaise
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves heavenly hand power. in the manga sasuke teleported behind naruto with no truth seeker orb to exploit (unlike in the anime). so to me all he would need is a sword and need to goat gojo to simply come forward and with the air on gojo he'd technically get him self stabbed, juubidara style. if not that than gojo's clothes.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@MayoTheNnaise Infinity would stop the sword from touching him. We see him stop a bunch of blades in Hidden Inventory and as he walks they move out of his way
@nwk1626
6 ай бұрын
@@MayoTheNnaisei woulda said he covers himself with amaterasu and trades places with gojo
@abigtubofsarcasm9070
6 ай бұрын
With that late game scaling hmmm
@xrim1139
6 ай бұрын
Your editing seems to be on a whole new level great job!
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Been in the lab through January so I can bring you guys the best content possible 🫡
@prsoppo4575
Ай бұрын
😐🫤😑😤👎👎👎
@ajayimoses2495
25 күн бұрын
Gojo only a avoids Amaterasu if he can blitz out of itachi’s line of sight when activated AKA blitzing itachi Which we know is impossible
@sageofthickcalves
25 күн бұрын
Amaterasu moves through space, so it would be stopped by limitless. I’m pretty sure I put the panels that prove that on screen
@ajayimoses2495
22 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves That’s just inherently wrong at its roots 😂 If you believe that, then sure But it’s obvious it spawns on the focal point of the user
@sageofthickcalves
22 күн бұрын
@@ajayimoses2495 Bottom of page 12, you can see it spawn in front of Ay, Ay moves, and the Amaterasu is in front of his afterimage, but multiple sprawling tendrils coming off of the Amaterasu are still IN FRONT of Ay’s main body. It’s clear as day. There’s no way that can happen unless it spawns IN FRONT of him. www.mangapill.com/chapters/3070-10463000/naruto-digital-colored-comics-chapter-463
@lukeoofed1677
Күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesmanga chapter 390 pg 3 literally states “one needs only to sight one’s target, and the black flames will come to life right on point.” This clearly means that Amaterasu spawns and doesn’t travel.
@sageofthickcalves
Күн бұрын
@@lukeoofed1677 it spawns in front of the user and travels toward them. Do I need to link the chapters?
@SmugAmerican
6 ай бұрын
New flavor of the week shonen. Stan Lee said it best, thats up to the writer at the time. This is all guessing.
@mechamanw668
Ай бұрын
I geel like tso should break through. Them being physical isn't enough explanation for me since the inverted spear and Miguel's whip could get through as well
@sageofthickcalves
Ай бұрын
Yeah the issue is those cursed tools actually force the stoppage of CT usage. TSOs don’t work that way
@JVSJ11
3 ай бұрын
Kisames sword literally eats chakra. If we're equalizing chakra and cursed energy them samahada neutralizes infinity eventually
@iftekharahmad2423
5 ай бұрын
The speed and strength gap is too high for Gojo. And totsuka blade will work and seal gojo. Gojo stops at Itachi. Itachi neg btw.
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
Scaled him to Kakashi physically at the different points in the story we discussed, and Kakashi should be in the same physical tier as these characters. Also, how does Totsuka Blade work against infinity?
@iftekharahmad2423
5 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves It's a spiritual sealing weapon and it far surpasses sealing tool like prison realm. And it will by pass infinity. I would argue most of the strong sealing jutsu in Naruto will work on Gojo.
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
@@iftekharahmad2423 you didn’t answer how it bypasses infinity
@iftekharahmad2423
5 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves it's a spiritual weapon! Wasn't it clear enough.
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
@@iftekharahmad2423 what does that have to do with anything? It travels through space, can be seen, and is made up of spiritual energy, which is 1/2 the equation that makes up chakra. Being a spirit weapon doesn’t inherently make it capable of bypassing infinity
@nobody5066
6 ай бұрын
Please do more 🙏 crossverse vs battles 🥺, I've subscribed can't wait to see future vids 😍
@owensilva9224
6 ай бұрын
Purple is not existence erasure as far as I know.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
It’s 50/50, depends on your interpretation. I think because the actual translation is “virtual mass” (like Yuki’s black hole), and not “imaginary mass”, paired with the fact that it’s literally the combination of two opposing “infinite” mathematical principles (convergence and divergence), it should be.
@The__Deadman
5 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Sukuna basically blocked 200% purple, there is no way it's existence erasure.
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
@@The__Deadman he used domain amplification to lessen the effects. Also, I don’t think it’s existence erasure, but it is mass erasure. It’s likened to Yuki’s black hole technique, which is mass erasure.
@quazell88
4 ай бұрын
So my question is shouldn’t gojo be able to see limbo since it’s a ability and six eyes can see thru it
@sageofthickcalves
4 ай бұрын
If you take the statement of him being able to see through all techniques, you could argue that. It’s just tough because it’s a separate dimension. We see in JJK that there are barriers he can’t see through, so I don’t think he’d be able to see across dimensions. Even if he could, infinity shouldn’t be able to stop Limbo.
@Jsipki265
6 ай бұрын
My resort to the genjutsu is that could be small enough to penetrate the infinity also we see with hanami mind hax that gojo was affected by it even with rct.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
So there are a couple things here I think a lot of people miss. Gojo is stated to he able to control his limitless on an atomic level, so the only things that could slip through his limitless would have to be sub-atomic (like photons or electrons). So you’d have to prove the genjutsu chakra passing through would work that way. Secondly, I don’t think Gojo was affected by Hanami’s flowers in any significant way. I think it’s in character for him to be silly around his students and he literally saw flowers and acted as he would if he randomly saw flowers pop up outside of battle. So yeah I don’t think that’s evidence of him getting hit by mind hax tbh.
@Jsipki265
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves that’s what I meant if you can prove chakra is smaller than what gojo can process. I understand thinking bc gojo was nonchalant about the curse spirits the hax didn’t work, but we have no evidence for this especially since he was trying to get info out of jogo.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@Jsipki265 Yeah it’s just impossible to prove that chakra “particles” (I guess lol) would be smaller than atoms. And yeah the claim that he was affected by Hanami is equally as valid as the claim that he wasn’t, so it’s a non-argument, which is why I chose to leave it out tbh
@Jsipki265
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves I mean wouldn’t say impossible since we have a few jutsu’s that uses protons light darui’s jutsu and madara’s light fang so definitely not impossible.
@Jsipki265
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves I mean if it’s equal interpretation then I think it should’ve been mentioned especially in a crossverse.
@mattmcwhirt4146
6 ай бұрын
A Video about gojo but still made it about kakashi😂 (any character than scales above massively faster than light speed can one shot gojo or characters with greater hax) Ay created an after image due to being faster than the amatuasu but I understand you thinking that amatuasu travels a distance instead of appearing on a target.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
I only used the Kakashi scaling because their upper and lower tiers of scaling are the same. Also, how does someone one shot him if they can’t get past infinity? You cannot bypass infinity with physical speed. Ay does create an after image, which you see in the panel AFTER you see the Amaterasu in front of him.
@mattmcwhirt4146
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves You can get past the automaticity of infinity by being massively faster, the Same way flying raijin lvl 2 beat obitos kamui which is suppose to be automatic. I’m just trolling about kakashi bc I know he’s your favorite character.
@owensilva9224
6 ай бұрын
@sageofthickcalves you can bypass infinity if you have infinite speed or higher speed
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@mattmcwhirt4146 Haha I figured you were trolling about Kakashi 🤣 I was like bro I know I’m a Kakashi guy but I PROMISE that wasn’t my goal 💀 As far as blitzing infinity, I don’t agree with that interpretation for two reasons. First, Kamui’s passive defense drops when Obito materializes to grab an opponent. So, to argue for the same thing, you’d have to argue Gojo would drop his infinity and THEN get blitzed, which isn’t in character for him. Second, TG’s Gojo vs the Hokage video he just dropped did a great job of covering this, but essentially the anime makes it seem like a timer blitz whereas the manga doesn’t. In the manga, when Minato teleports to his kunai, his rasengan is already on Obito. Since we know he moved through a sub-space when using FTG, what likely happened is he changed his physical position in the sub-space so that when he reappeared with the kunai his rasengan was already on Obito. So yeah I don’t ascribe to the Kamui timer blitz, and even if you do, you’d have to argue Gojo drops his infinity at some point, which isn’t in character.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@owensilva9224 infinite or irrelevant speed should be able to bypass, yes, because they would ignore distance. Nobody in Naruto has that without teleportation, though. TG covered Minato’s and potentially Tobirama’s win conditions over Gojo in his Gojo vs the Hokage video, based on that.
@themegacactus
Ай бұрын
Unlimited void is infinite amount of infinite information Gojo uses reverse cursed technique on his brain to constantly keep limitless up Purple is not difnitivly exsitnce ereasure Highball intrepretation of gojo speed should be infinite due to him moving around in a place where time doesnt exist (prison realm) ps not to sound mean but i think that saying domain expansion is infinite info vs infinite amounts of infinite info is important
@sageofthickcalves
Ай бұрын
@@themegacactus yeah I made this video 5 months ago
@nickeayres6295
6 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie im surprised the people who think madara and obito scale to large star or higher isnt blowing up the comment section. No i dont think they are at best imo madara is planetary. Also love the vid man
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
I appreciate you bro! 🫡
@potheadraccoon8536
6 ай бұрын
madara would solo the jjk verse
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@potheadraccoon8536 I agree, as long as he has Limbo
@nickeayres6295
6 ай бұрын
@potheadraccoon8536 oh I agree jjk simply does not scale high enough imo. Now if we are talking equal stats i don't think many verse could take on jjk due to the weird haxs
@ajayimoses2495
25 күн бұрын
Oh yeah and sammehada would just absorb the energy making up limitless easily and leave gojo open for a bit
@sageofthickcalves
25 күн бұрын
Limitless isn’t a walk of CE that can be cut through
@ajayimoses2495
22 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Cursed techniques are inherently Modified cursed energy If the CE can be nullified for example with inverted spear of heaven or chakra absorption Then it’s easily able to be bypassed Even other techniques like Domain Amps can bypass it
@nobody5066
6 ай бұрын
Great vid but You also missed tayuya from the sound 4, who has sound based genjutsu. You also missed tobirama has his darkness genjutsu.
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
The problem with sound based genjutsu is you’d have to argue cursed speech would work against him, and it’s never implied or shown to be. Plus, sound-based genjutsu is just sound waved imbued with chakra, which he’d be able to see and react to, since he’s MASSIVELY above the speed of sound. As far as bringer of darkness, you still have to inject your chakra into the opponent, which isn’t possible with Gojo’s infinity and six eyes. Even if you assume they would land, Gojo’s passive RCT on his brain is a hard counter to all genjutsu.
@mathewrivera6947
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesand how is flooding him with chakra impossible cuz of six eyes? literally doesnt work like that🤣🤣🤣
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@mathewrivera6947 I said it’s impossible because of his infinity AND six eyes. This is explained in the video, but it’s because he can see the flow of CE, and in cross-verse you equalize power systems so CE = chakra. So, he’d be able to see the chakra flowing from the opponent to himself and it would be stopped by infinity. We know for a fact he can stop CE, so there’s no reason he wouldn’t be able to stop chakra.
@XKIRA376
6 ай бұрын
Gojo gets Bodied by top tiers. And genjutsu should work for the most part, already said he can’t see through illusions and genjustsu isn’t causing physical damage to his brain nor should rct be illusion negation. Madara and Obito can simply bypass infinity. Kaguya would bfr. Pain negates, outspeeds. Itachi Rots his Brain. Kisame bypasses. Boruto villains are overkill. Gojo is weak stat wise cross verse and gets bodied when characters have a work around to infinity. Yea and villains stronger than pain bodies. Willing to debate on this topic cause y’all gojo fans hate hearing he loses😂 Chakra not bypassing infinity when Hanami CE CSM affect his senses is blasphemy
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Genjutsu illusions and Hanami’s illusions function differently. Genjutsu works by chakra being directly poured into the opponent, meaning the chakra travels some distance from the caster to Gojo. The illusions produced by genjutsu, however, are entirely in the affected person’s mind. Hanami’s illusions are actually visible manifestations. They’re “illusions” in the sense that they’re not actually plants, but more like holograms of plants. However, they do appear in the real visible world, and it has nothing to do with CE traveling from the caster to the target. So what you and others have done when comparing the two is use a false equivalency.
@XKIRA376
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves I mean fair but u can also argue chakra not really having travel time with genjutsu or that ur not really having any physical properties should work. Staring at itachis eyes immediately puts u in tsukyomi, beings don’t even have time to react before it works. So arguments that it manefests within its target should be valid. Also chakra is spiritual so saying infinity blocks out all properties including aspatial is nlf until proven. Chakra can materialize but in its pure state it isn’t physical. Jirayah even said that u can cast genjutsu by controlling ur opponent chakra flow, he said this to kid Naruto, this is evident as the only way to prevent this is for ur opponent to stop there own individual chakra flow. My point is that there are many arguments for genjutsu to work
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@XKIRA376 the argument that chakra doesn’t travel would be unprovable, but your best bet. I’d even argue the way sharingan genjutsu is described leans towards the idea that the chakra does travel, but it’s not a provable claim either way. The argument that it wouldn’t be stopped because it’s not physical doesn’t work, since fire isn’t physical and Gojo blocks that.
@XKIRA376
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves how does sharingan disprove anything? And I have more than 1 argument for chakra
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@XKIRA376 The Itachi shinden novels talk about how the sharingan’s genjutsu works by “pouring” chakra from the sharingan into the opponent. The Japanese word used for pouring implies movement from one source to another, and Itachi even implies a passage of time
@iamdavidreardon
6 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@lazairance
6 ай бұрын
People keep bringing up « imaginary mass » while virtual mass would be more accurate to say. Other wise W video
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Yeah I even put the virtual mass editor comment in the video for people 🤣 Oh well haha. Thank you so much!
@SatorisYT
6 ай бұрын
Fuelling the algorithm
@___________0Z0X
4 ай бұрын
Does Sasuke’s renigan ability only work on inanimate objects and himself? Because if he can swap places with other people, then that’s his way around limitless.
@sageofthickcalves
4 ай бұрын
He can swap places with people, but it wouldn’t matter
@___________0Z0X
4 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves i’m not sure I agree, couldn’t Sasuke put Amaterasu right were he’s standing and then switch places with Gojo? Then Sasuke could just absorb the flames that on his body, but Gojo wouldn’t be able to do the same. It’s weird for sure, but I feel like it might be possible.
@___________0Z0X
4 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves also thank you for replying and clearing this up for me. I really appreciate it man.
@sageofthickcalves
4 ай бұрын
@@___________0Z0X yeah it could potentially work. I’m just not convinced that Gojo wouldn’t be able to remove it with Blue
@sageofthickcalves
4 ай бұрын
@@___________0Z0X no problem brother!
@lancejac6250
6 ай бұрын
Why cant sasuke drop him into another dimension? Vary uniformed take
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
He can’t do the dimension shifting like Kaguya, and he can’t grab him and throw him into another dimension, so he’d have to open a portal, run inside of it, swap places via aminotejikara, and then close the portal. The problem with that, though, is Gojo could likely teleport back before Sasuke closed the portal.
@bongaloyiso6152
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves that is not how it works . U clearly dont understand sasukes abilities
@lancejac6250
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves that's not how it works
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@bongaloyiso6152 what was I wrong on?
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@lancejac6250 explain
@qtindavis433
8 күн бұрын
amaterasu only missed ay bc his after image is still there when it appeared on that spot. when the image faded. sasukes line of sight goes all the way back to the samurai. it appears on whats reflected on the Iris
@sageofthickcalves
8 күн бұрын
You can see Ay’s real body and his after image on label together, with the outside part of the Amaterasu IN FRONT of his arm.
@qtindavis433
7 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves the amaterasu is in the same spot on his after images chest, the same place it would be if his real body didnt move. even in the description it says how it appears. the amaterasu appearing in front makes no sense. when itachi was trying to burn sasuke as he was flying it was appearing where sasuke was and when it missed it went further out onto the forest. if there was travel time obito would have dodged it too, but he wasnt able to react. it appears on the target
@sageofthickcalves
7 күн бұрын
@@qtindavis433 Chapter 463 Page 12, bottom left panel, you can see Ay’s physical body AND after image in the same panel, with the Amaterasu IN FRONT of his arm: www.mangapill.com/chapters/3070-10463000/naruto-digital-colored-comics-chapter-463 Chapter 390 Page 10 you can see the Amaterasu chasing Sasuke, not spawning ON him: www.mangapill.com/chapters/3070-10390000/naruto-digital-colored-comics-chapter-390 Do I need more examples to show you that the Amaterasu travels and doesn’t actually spawn on the target instantly?
@qtindavis433
7 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves i never said it spawns on the target instantly, there is a delay, but it is spawning on the target, sasuke is clearly moving faster than itachis able to look.
@sageofthickcalves
7 күн бұрын
@@qtindavis433 You said it spawns on the target. I showed you two examples of it traveling to the target. Itachi had no issues perceiving Sasuke that entire fight until he’s literally blind 💀 Again, the Amaterasu is clearly spawning IN FRONT OF Ay, since we can see it in front of his real arm in the link I shared. This means it would spawn IN FRONT OF GOJO, and, thus, never reach him.
@val0liveira
5 ай бұрын
Doesn’t can Pain Tendon, WM Obito, Any version of Madara $ Juubidara absorb the blue, red and purple by Gojo? And Nagato is a chakra tank, why do you think that he would be chakra fatigue first than Gojo? Kisame can absorb Gojo’s “chakra”.
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
I’m not sure something like blue or purple could be absorbed because of how they function, but red can be. Kisame could use samehada to cut through and absorb red, but if you’re referring to infinity, that’s not how it works. It’s not a physical barrier
@val0liveira
5 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvesi’m referring to absorv CE (Chakra)
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
@@val0liveira like from his projectile attacks? I would agree. From infinity or his body? I disagree
@val0liveira
5 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves Not from infinity but from his body, and his projectiles
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
@@val0liveira Samehada would have to touch his body to absorb his chakra from his body, and that’s never happening. It could probably handle red, though.
@quazell88
4 ай бұрын
Ok so
@brobladeroblox3100
6 ай бұрын
What attack is hitting orange obito
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Potentially blue. It could reverse the Kamui warping
@brobladeroblox3100
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves cant he tank that also he's extremely fast and whenever he becomes intangible his body is no longer in the same dimension as the attack
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@brobladeroblox3100 yeah probably, but he’d fatigue before Gojo does and doesn’t have any viable win cons vs Gojo
@brobladeroblox3100
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves he can speed blitz him beyond his perception or put him in kamui
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@brobladeroblox3100 he can’t speed blitz him because his infinity is always active, and he can’t put him in Kamui because he a) can’t get close enough to do it and b) even if he could, Gojo can teleport
@cassiedean974
6 ай бұрын
🔥
@zachm56gaming30
2 ай бұрын
Could someone just bypass limitless by being way faster than goji like what toji did?
@sageofthickcalves
2 ай бұрын
No because Gojo didn’t have it working automatically at that point. Also, Toji didn’t bypass it with speed. He waited for Gojo to stop using it the first time and then canceled it with the inverted spear of heaven the second time
@Pain-106
6 ай бұрын
I have a doubt 🤔🤔 if chakra /curse energy is equal than Kisame can able to absorb that right?? Obito can kamui someone even without touching we can see it when torune vs obito fight. And Byakugan can't see Obito's spawning place and his chakra when he is intangible but i sure Gojo wins..
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
No because it’s not a barrier. It’s space-time manipulation. It would be like saying he can absorb FTG or Kamui
@Pain-106
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves ohh yes 😅😅😅😅. I don't finished the video i am watching.... And commenting soooo. Now i am at pain vs Gojo..
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@Pain-106 you’re good! Lmk what you think
@yamamotogotbodied1606
6 ай бұрын
What Kakashi is scaling directly to Orange Mask Obito?
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
War Arc Kakashi scales to War Arc Obito. In chapter 629 (pages 8 and 9) we get confirmation that Kakashi a) is able to perception blitz Obito b) has been holding back against him and c) had multiple chances to kill him, including in the moment referenced. I’ll drop a link, but keep in mind that Kakashi was aiming for Obito’s head, so removing the seal isn’t an argument here. Kakashi straight up blitzed him. www.mangapill.com/chapters/3070-10629000/naruto-digital-colored-comics-chapter-629
@FW.INK.
29 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalvessorry but im confused, in those times kakashi couldve “killed” obito it was only because obito had let him knowing kakashi couldnt bring himself to actually do it. So if obito did indeed know kakashi would never kill him, why would he need to try and dodge/stop the attack?
@sageofthickcalves
29 күн бұрын
@@FW.INK. no we get a flashback to when Kakashi punched him in the gut after being warped into the Kamui dimension, so Obito wasn’t lying
@jotaktessier7108
5 ай бұрын
Bro might as well say gojo solo dbz or rimuru
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
Nah those universes have characters who can easily get past infinity via hax or hax resistance
@braxtonhouse294
5 ай бұрын
My only disagreements here are your scaling chakra to cursed energy i agree but wouldnt that make his infinity basicly a kakigenkai, meaning sauske with rinigan would be able to replicate it like he does with ice realese and wouldnt truth seekers nulify it.
@bongaloyiso6152
6 ай бұрын
Dude if we talking shear power , chakra or ce volume gojo is not in conversation with any kage lvl let alone elite jounin. You are very disingenuous with your scaling by the way I though you were on the right track for a minute there
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
I appreciate the comments! Just a couple of things here: That first claim is impossible to prove. It’s outright stated that he can’t run out of cursed energy, due to his volume and efficiency. So even if he has lower volume than some of these guys, his efficiency covers up for it if they can’t bypass infinity. As far as his scaling, I scaled him to Kakashi because on the lowest end of his scaling Gojo is lightning speed and on the highest end he’s slightly FTL. Outside of DMS, that’s EXACTLY what Kakashi’s scaling low and high are.
@tylerkincaid4614
6 ай бұрын
Gojo is alive in Cuba
@nwk1626
6 ай бұрын
i can vouch ^
@ajharris2690
Ай бұрын
wai why does the chakra abzorbing effect not work on gojos infinity it shouId work since the ce in intermingIed withing neutraI because if is wasn't the ct negation wouIdn't work with the isoh
@sageofthickcalves
Ай бұрын
Because he’s not forming a wall of CE. He’s using his CE to manipulate space. So there would be nothing to absorb. It’s like saying they could absorb shinra tensei.
@ajharris2690
Ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves then how did the isoh work did it just negate the concept of space
@sageofthickcalves
Ай бұрын
@@ajharris2690 no it forces the stoppage of CTs, so once it entered the space that Gojo was manipulating, it forced the CT to stop working.
@akiraman7664
6 ай бұрын
Cap
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
Explain
@akiraman7664
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves gojo's infinity can't detect genjutsu cause the chakra coming from itach's eyes doesn't have physical properties i don't think infinity can detect something like that the same waye it can't stop light or air so what I'm saying is that infinity can't stop anything that has no physical properties so gojo can't stop genjutsu
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@akiraman7664 Gojo outright states it detects things by their cursed energy, which isn’t always physical either. So I think it should be able to stop chakra. Even if you don’t ascribe to this, his RCT constantly refreshing his brain would essentially instantly recover his brain from the affects of genjutsu
@akiraman7664
6 ай бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves yeah but itachi can keep gojo in tsukuyomi for years on end just three days in tsukuyomi hospitalised kakashi itachi can basically keep gojo in tsukuyomi for 70 years as he did to izumi uchiha gojo can't use rct for that long + you didn't use itach's strongest form his edo tensei form and he can also use izanami don't forget that
@sageofthickcalves
6 ай бұрын
@@akiraman7664 RCT either instantly breaks him out or completely heals his brain as soon as the tsukuyomi is done, assuming the chakra from Itachi’s eye Can even reach him
@erdodimate9017
5 ай бұрын
Sasuke amenotejikara bro You didn't mention that,Sasuke looks at gojo and than chidori Or teleports him into amaterasu
@sageofthickcalves
5 ай бұрын
Amenotejikara won’t really do anything unless you argue he can leave him in another dimension, but that would he tough because Gojo could teleport before the portal closes. I also doubt he could teleport him into an Amaterasu without baiting him into dropping limitless.
@luluex3
Ай бұрын
probably because that doesn't actually address Infinity.
@RohitNikam-ps2zj
Күн бұрын
How will gojo kill orochimaru...
@sageofthickcalves
Күн бұрын
@@RohitNikam-ps2zj Hollow Purple
@RohitNikam-ps2zj
Күн бұрын
So at the beginning u said that u will be matching the the cursed energy to chakara...so don't u think that zabuza and all the other villain s can get passed his infinity cause zabuza has a literal cursed blade which absorbs the energy from the opponent and same goes for orochimaru,kisame,itachi all of there weapons are either made of chakara or imbued with chakara which is cursed energy..and we know that the weapon with cursed energy can by pass infinity and I don't think gojo is immune to genjutsu cause the genjutsu panal u showed was only applicable for MS sharingan based genjutsu there are lot of other ways to put genjutsu u only talk about what gojo has but I personally don't think he can win against zabuza and haku , orochimaru, or any one after that like for kisame I think kisame wins due to speed,strenght and his blade which can absorb the infinity upon contact...
@RohitNikam-ps2zj
Күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves brother hollow purple is no where near orochimarus speed and knowing orochimaru he will definitely dodge it....and not to forget the orochimaru has Kusanagi sword which is chakara based weapon and chakara=cursed energy and we know that cursed energy weapons can bypass infinity.....
@RohitNikam-ps2zj
Күн бұрын
😂😂😂I can literally debunk his each and every argument after the zabuza......
@sageofthickcalves
Күн бұрын
@@RohitNikam-ps2zj limitless doesn’t produce a wall of CE. It’s not a barrier.
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