From a chemistry perspective: Add some water to your sample so you can stir (as quickly as possible) while slowly adding the peroxide (H2O2) to it. Most likely some manganese (or similar) acting as a catalyst to decompose the peroxide to oxygen and water (2 H2O2 ---> 2 H2O + O2). Most of the oxygen that is released (~165 grams from a liter of 35% hydrogen peroxide) is just being released into the air. By stiring your sample and adding the peroxide slowly, you will get a far more efficient reaction.
@chancebutler6472
2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@markthomas4083
Жыл бұрын
Very useful tip Mr. Anthony. Thank you sir.
@Metal_Master_YT
Жыл бұрын
I was going to comment this...
@FhumulaniKhorommbi
4 ай бұрын
I like you work
@FhumulaniKhorommbi
4 ай бұрын
I need help I have minerals at my house all over
@EastBayFlipper
Жыл бұрын
When dealing with hydrogen sulphide gas, there are a couple of factors 1. Use a fume hood. This stuff is no joke 2. If you stop smelling the H2S, RUN!!! H2S in higher concentrations will shut down your ability to detect it. I grew up near a heavy water plant 😉
@dirtyminerapparel
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure how I didn’t find this channel before but I love it! It’s like watching my kids do a STEM project but with gold!
@TheGayestPersononYouTube
3 жыл бұрын
Just as a tip if you do this with peroxide in the future, some oxides (namely manganese dioxide) will catalytically break down the peroxide so you may never get it to stop fizzing depending on the sample. Also, adding HCl to the peroxide might start dissolving the free gold into solution as the H2O2 is strong enough to oxidize the gold for the HCl to dissolve like nitric acid is in aqua regia. Love your channel, man!
@TechGorilla1987
3 жыл бұрын
Where the heck have you been, man!?! I enjoy your content.
@TheRolemodel1337
3 жыл бұрын
nice to see you here :D
@mbmmllc
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@johnwedow2117
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir . 23 years ago my Daughter and I camped in Montaana pre Grizz . We found gold pandemic recently returned there and am exploring the source . I spent 5 weeks this past summer 20 MI in dodging Grizz and tons of Moose . So it's back at it after melt off . I appreciate that I am a fit 71 year guy . Cheers.
@mikeconnery4652
Жыл бұрын
Great video. First put the 50 grams into a jar, then add 4 parts muratic acid to 1 part nitric acid. This fluid should be heated past 150* f for a few minutes You should get a bright yellow fluid. Add pure water and drain the fluid only out.
@WheezinGeezerTV
3 жыл бұрын
I watch tons of gold mining, recovery, and reviews. So to be added at this point is tough because I want my feeds to have more than just gold recovery videos. However, what it takes to get added is good solid information and techniques. And you deliver both. And doing a failing experiment is one of them. I'm sure a lot of prospectors try these tricks and you've proven that it might not be worth the trouble. I don't know, I was impressed with the video and procedures used, and comparison techniques. So for those reasons I have no other choice but to add you to the subscriptions. Well done. I look forward to more.
@B0NGSHEAD
Жыл бұрын
Refining with Sodium Bisulphate It was considered that the silver as well as the base metals might be removed by some preliminary treatment. Nitric acid was ineffective on the retorted gold tried; sulphuric acid had little effect, but on testing with bisulphate of sodium it was found that base metals were removed or oxidised, and that silver sulphate formed The retorted gold was heated in porcelain or dense fireclay pots to a dull red heat for some time, generally as long as sulphur dioxide was evolved. The fused pyrosulphate was then poured out, and the cake drained as completely as possible. These were afterwards washed with hot water until the silver sulphate had been removed. The cake of melted pyrosulphate was also dissolved, and the silver present in the solution precipitated on iron, or by other well-known means. The gold could now be smelted, and invariably would be found to be much purer than when smelted by older methods. The silver and base metals were also removed at a fraction of the cost required by the chlorine method. The results obtained, however, were variable; one sample would be purified from about 80 to 96 per cent., yet another would only be increased by five or six per cent. The cause of this variation seemed to be that when coarse gold is amalgamated the mercury only affects the outer crust, so that on retorting there would be left pieces of gold porous on the outside, but unaltered within. In order to determine whether the gold and silver, if amalgamated in a fine state of division and then retorted would part, 80 grains of gold and 20 grains of silver were taken and amalgamated. The amalgam was retorted, and the resulting gold was of pale yellow colour. This was treated by boiling with strong sulphuric acid, which removed part of the silver; it was afterwards treated by fusion with sodium bisulphate, which removed more. The gold remaining was then washed with water, and after the silver sulphate had been removed the metal was weighed and parted. It was found to consist of: Gold, 97.2; silver, 2.8. It is, therefore, a difficult matter to remove the whole of the silver, even when finely divided originally by this treatment: It might be stated here, although detailed reference will be made to it later on, that by using phosphoric acid with sulphate of sodium as a solvent that the retorted gold made in the same way was raised to: 99.2 gold. 0.8 silver.
@michaelwalker4456
3 жыл бұрын
I tried this a while ago. You need to add 90% acetic acid to break the oxide layer you built on the surface of the sulfides. The reaction will continue over and over till nothing is left to oxidize. The reaction is a exothermic one that boils over, the bubbles cool it and it reheats as the next layer oxidizes. This is paracetic acid. Acetic and hydrogen peroxide. You can add salt to it as well.
@playerzero2236
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch for these refining videos without complex chemicals. Can't tell you how much that helps my operation capabilities.
@kevinfreeman3098
3 жыл бұрын
Use jet dry, you have gold suspended in/on the water, helps break the surface tension to let it fall to the bottom.
@Alrik.
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice experiment, thank you for sharing! There's lots of gold (panning) channels on KZitem and I always wonder how much gold theh throw out in their sulfides. I'd love to see more experiments like this!
@Alondro77
3 жыл бұрын
Adding HCl with the peroxide will dissolve the gold as well. Might be useful to make a concentrate of gold chloride solution and leave all the silicates behind.
@chosen1one930
2 жыл бұрын
You need morw than Hcl And Peroxide, you need heat, a lot plus stirring AND a vast amount of Peroxide. The ratio can be 1:5 when all said and done. Its cheaper to just use nitric acid since you can dissolve 4 troy ounces in 300ml HCL plus 15ml Nitric
@mwilson14
3 жыл бұрын
The H2O2 is mostly decomposing via catalytic in that process. It is best to roast with potassium nitrate.
@Askjeffwilliams
3 жыл бұрын
really good experiment Jason.....great explanation of the process ....love how you are pushing the envelope...we smashed that like button and we are Subscribed and hit the Bell icon so we don't miss anything ...... good job sonny Jim.
@mbmmllc
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@micheleshaw4280
3 жыл бұрын
Ive learned alot fro u 2 jeff but mostly on ancient aliens talk about food for tbe "BRAIN" yummy😋😉🙃🙂thanks guys
@TechGorilla1987
3 жыл бұрын
So you know what I'm gonna' say?!?!?
@micheleshaw4280
3 жыл бұрын
@@TechGorilla1987 not all the time lol
@micheleshaw4280
3 жыл бұрын
Jus on the days u allow me too
@mehurtmyfinger
3 жыл бұрын
Gday mate. You probably dissolved some gold into the H2O2. Add a piece of copper into the H2O2, and see if any black metal cements onto it, to recover any that has been dissolved
@whynotdean8966
3 жыл бұрын
Gold oxide isn't water soluble.
@mehurtmyfinger
3 жыл бұрын
@@whynotdean8966 he's using H2O2. making it extremely soluble in presence of tap water, which contains chlorine, unless it was tank water he used.
@whynotdean8966
3 жыл бұрын
@@mehurtmyfinger H2O2 just oxidizes it. I seriously doubt the tiny amount of chlorine in tap water would dissolve anything at all. There's a reason you need a lot of very concentrated acid to dissolve gold normally.
@garrisonkoby3448
3 жыл бұрын
wouldnt a stannous chloride test be the best way to quickly check ?
@swatbaer
3 жыл бұрын
@@garrisonkoby3448 yes stannous chloride should be used on all solutions PERIOD. Unless you want to lose values. Is he aware of testing precious metal wastes?
@Navschannel3908
3 жыл бұрын
Hate to tell you, but if you had added HCL to the h2o2 (Hydrogen Peroxide) it will create a weak version of aqua regia, and start dissolving the gold and other precious metals... and basically, not a good plan. If you add an air hose into the crucible with just atmospheric air being pumped in, it will during the smelt oxidize all the sulfides, and you can actually turn the gas off in the furnace and it will continue to heat, as the air and sulfides combust... crazy stuff, I know, but a huge bit of fun to watch .
@garrisonkoby3448
3 жыл бұрын
could you pump oxygen down there? using a tiny medical tank/regulator, a bubbler to prevent blowback then down threw a high pressure stainless steel braided hose.? I happen to have these random items, But I am under strict rules not to blow the house up with my projects. lol , thank you!!
@Navschannel3908
3 жыл бұрын
@@garrisonkoby3448 atmospheric air is absolutely preferable, pure O2 in this case would be an extreme option, and blowing up your house might not happen, however, the smelt would in all likelihood super heat, at least into the 3000 degrees F... Using braided stainless, is good, the idea is to not and consumable metals to the smelt... stainless, is a great choice. I use atmospheric air from a 35 lb air compressor, and a regulator value to add the air...
@mariodibenedetto4160
4 ай бұрын
U r so correct I'm surprised he didn't know
@mikebrown0262
3 жыл бұрын
Safety tip, a filtered mask does not protect against H2S gas. The only protection from H2S is a supplied air respirator.
@xephael3485
3 жыл бұрын
Respirator does to a point
@scrappydoo7887
3 жыл бұрын
@@xephael3485 to a point isnt being protected though is it lol
@xephael3485
3 жыл бұрын
@@scrappydoo7887 The point I was talking about is the level H2S you're exposed to. They don't make acid gas & organic vapor respirator filters that specifically filter hydrogen sulfide for no reason... Mike brown is wrong in saying they don't protect against H2S gas, because they do.
@scrappydoo7887
3 жыл бұрын
@@xephael3485 and if i hadn't made you clarify your point people would be thinking that all respirators provide protection "to a point"
@xephael3485
3 жыл бұрын
@@scrappydoo7887 just like bullet proof vests provide protection to a point... Nothing wrong with thinking that.
@TomokosEnterprize
3 жыл бұрын
Dean here. I am a pourer of SM's and as I do torch work on friends plaser I am thinking this may be my salvation for all that come to me with bits and pieces of their hard worked for beautise they worked so hard for. Thankx bud. Drug store peroxide is plenty and easy on the wallet eh. later on I see that more needs to go into this project but anything is better than quicksilver eh !
@TheMilwaukieDan
3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Jason. I learned so much. I’ll watch it a few more times with notes. You are incredible.
@flashpointrecycling
3 жыл бұрын
The balance of the weight is probably dissolved in the liquid that you decanted.
@ataali4279
3 жыл бұрын
You can use aqua regia . Its use for for gold . 1/4 nitric 3/4 hcl = let gold be liquid . Then use smp acid then you get gold Powder
@Cjohn31
3 жыл бұрын
Learned that on streetips channel
@TechGorilla1987
3 жыл бұрын
Much of the 'smoke' is steam BTW. H2O2 is what the original rocket pack used. Over a platinum catalyst I believe.
@MrMackievelli
3 жыл бұрын
There is likely plenty of hydrogen sulfide which would be a side product of the reaction.
@jbizzbuildsmanstuff9932
3 жыл бұрын
It was silver and peroxide for rockets
@barnowlboxes35
2 жыл бұрын
Can the H202 be recovered from tne steam to be used as fuel for my car? I have a hydrogen unit installed now.
@whynotdean8966
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it really seems like some mineral is catalytically breaking down the H2O2. I'm betting most of your peroxide is getting wasted before it gets to react with the sulfides unfortunately. Very cool experiment though!
@embuscadosmetais
2 жыл бұрын
Mas não é esse o propósito de redução?
@jonathansonnier3078
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome education brother thank you for doing and sharing unsuccessful melts too I have learned a lot from binge watching your videos 😂
@GSProspecting
3 жыл бұрын
Great work fam. Cool indeed. Gold squad out!!!
@MrD308
3 жыл бұрын
Another very informative video Jason. Thanks for taking the time showing us these processes.
@ToddDunning
3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Jason. You cut right through it and come up with the goods every time, and explain it really well.
@joshuajackson6442
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really enjoyed this video. It would be interesting to see a video including a solution of H2O2 + HCL.
@whynotdean8966
3 жыл бұрын
It could potentially start dissolving the gold instead of releasing it.
@frantiseklaluch6605
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Jason, these videos are the best school of metalurgy... No theory beats the reality...
@1607rosie
2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos . It's like I'm sitting in a mining class.
@HellBent069
2 жыл бұрын
What about roasting and then using a bit of h202 to really top off the process? Just 1 cycle of h202 will oxidize alot of un roasted sulfides
@jorojinnomad549
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason... from Jason.. (Jorojin Nomad) .... love your work and experiments..
@tinabenham7731
2 жыл бұрын
Dang!! You sure are a smart one.. need more people like you in this world.. love watching your videos.. 😊 stay safe, happy, n healthy. 👍
@TKs3DPrints
3 жыл бұрын
think i would have used the pan to extract the gold from the sample. then snuffed the gold up. then i would have then used the peroxide on what was left. any gold after that would prove that the peroxide works or not. might be worth running a 100grm sample
@paulcoover9197
3 жыл бұрын
My crazy idea is to float out the fines in the foam like they do floating platinum ore. I have always heard that if you get any oil. your fines will float away. not the 100 fines--the 200 fines and even smaller. Aussie Bloke Prospecting uses a vibrator and slows his sluice and the angle is 11 inches of run to 1 inch of rise. It may be that a heavily conditioned shampoo or just conditioner? who knows. Keep up the good work. And Thank you.
@benderrodriguez142
Жыл бұрын
If you add water before the peroxide it will allow you to use less. Going with the straight 35% peroxide a lot is getting wasted to thermal decomp as opposed to oxidizing the sulfur compounds. Or do it with the gold pan in an ice bath to slow manage the heat.
@freedomwarriorsunited9712
2 жыл бұрын
Just started watching your videos over the past few days and I’m hooked. Love watching pure research 🧐 being performed through commonsensical researchers outside of the constraints of the learned indoctrinated system. Love it!!
@jackalexander1144
3 жыл бұрын
Peroxide violently reacts and breaks down with silver and some other metals. I'm not sure this process is wise. But that being said every experiment is a learning opportunity
@petterandersson7429
3 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting to see a 100g roasted sample as a control.
@idontknowmyfirstname69
3 жыл бұрын
What's going on there is a decomposition reaction. The sulfides and sulfates do oxidize, but mainly they trigger an energetic decomposition of the peroxide into water and ionic oxygen. So the released gasses are a combination of water vapor, molecular oxygen, and sulphur dioxide. Its not much but i still would do something like this under ventilation. Honestly you're lucky your sulfates and sulfide concentrations are low. That strong of peroxide mixed with pure sulphur salts will violently decompose, think of a hot steam explosion in your face, along with the gasses taking very hot peroxide with it. One thing worse than strong peroxide... Is hot strong peroxide... A lot worse. I love your videos man keep making em... Its my dream kinda work but where i live i have to do my mining from ewaste, since ohio is lacking in gold deposits. Be safe
@idontknowmyfirstname69
3 жыл бұрын
Also dont have hot peroxide around gold. That strong doesnt need to get very hot to oxidize the finer pieces of gold. Might be good if you do this to save your liquid waste and test with stannous chloride to be sure you didn't inadvertently put some of your gold into solution
@misccomments9752
3 жыл бұрын
What about that famous Ohio Marcasite? Hard to believe no gold is in there. Have you comprehensively tested for it?
@lonpearson2134
3 жыл бұрын
Surprised it didn’t melt the pan. Good experiment.
@michaeloppenheimer2582
3 жыл бұрын
You know your chemistry man !!
@johnramirez5032
3 жыл бұрын
Knowledge and perseverance is key to success and you have both. You lab methods are both scientific and intresting. How ever i dont think you determined recovered gold content of each sample. More refined steps could get you the answer if you hadnt mixed the slag?
@frontiervirtcharter
Жыл бұрын
HCL plus peroxide is useful for a later step in the refining process - the peroxide has the same oxidizing effect as nitric does in aqua regia.
@scrapman502
Жыл бұрын
Strong Peroxide and HCl mixed together will dissolve the gold as well as oxidize the sulfides. It will certainly dissolve copper. If you mix these chemicals together, don't discard the fluid afterwards, it will have gold in it!
@budzag
5 ай бұрын
Could you then just let the liquid evaporate out and smelt every thing left behind?
@frontiervirtcharter
5 ай бұрын
@@budzag Look up a youtuber named Sreetips - he specializes in refining scrap gold and silver. But his methods would also be good for extracting pure gold and pure silver from the buttons that come from the cupel. If it hasn't already been done I'd love to see a collab with him and Jason to see how much 24K can be extracted from a couple of buttons from Jason's mine. Or a collab with him and Dan Hurd ..
@abbasal-hamdanitrq5307
3 жыл бұрын
Best Channel in Gold Exploration My greetings to you 👍
@arifisher4447
23 күн бұрын
I’m no scientist by any means, but my intuition suggests that any of these reactions should be done in a glass beaker. Probably purer results and prolonged life of your pan :)
@joeestes8114
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting a guy on KZitem named streetips does alot of refining gold and precious metals. Thanks for sharing! I subscribed
@Cjohn31
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a sub of streetips, very smart dude
@DeadJDona
3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting though to see iron smelting with and without h2o2
@jennodine
2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the wicked witch melting. I was wondering if you would melt your pan. Neat.
@pafischer
9 ай бұрын
Have you thought about putting the sulfide laden gold in a dry, O2 rich environment? Would it even work? I'm thinking you can put it in a glass vessel with one gas input and one gas output. The output would need a water trap to keep the O2 in the vessel. Then you could use a solar panel to generate some DC current and use the current to split distilled water into hydrogen and oxygen. Vent the oxygen into the vessel and vent the hydrogen into the atmosphere. The oxygen would build up in the vessel and hopefully react with the sulfides. You could try it first with some bottled oxygen to see if it causes a chemical reaction with the sulfides.
@ericdemeo5249
Жыл бұрын
Like the video, a good control experiment would to pan down a pan full of sample. Recover as much gold as possible. Then that same sample dry and put peroxide on it like you did, however if there’s gold it works if there is no more gold than you could identify that was left when you panned it down the 1st time it didn’t work. Great video appreciate the work you put into it. Awesome
@joshp6061
3 жыл бұрын
Hydrogen peroxide also oxidizes iron, it’s a big contributor to stainless steel rust. It’s possible you were just eating away at the gold pan itself. I would use a plastic or glass vessel to perform the reaction next time. Also the smoke your were getting was probably just steam from the peroxide boiling from the heat of the reaction. You could probably use half as much and get the same result from adding smaller portions at a time
@Algoldprospecting
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. What happens if you have platinum or other precious metal in there would it be in the gold or would they seperate?
@johnmahoney8285
Жыл бұрын
Curious as well. Lmk if u found an answer
@Seeds-Of-The-Wayside
3 жыл бұрын
There must be a lot of germs in that sand with all that fizzing!
@Eyes0penNoFear
3 жыл бұрын
I can feel the stinging from here.
@mikeconnery4652
Жыл бұрын
Then to the filtered bright yellow fluid add stump out by the spoonful until it turns brown. Then rinse and melt.
@bobgontarek6207
2 жыл бұрын
Jason, as always awesome videos. Very informative! I wish I could join you in your experiments and learn what you know!!
@joshua.snyder
3 жыл бұрын
That is one old pulverizer. Amazing how long they hold up.
@beckttbeck8450
2 жыл бұрын
hey the thing you should mention is that the process takes a little time, the longer it soaks the more it dissolves into the peroxide.... then if you bubble so2 gas into the gold peroxide solution or boil the peroxide off then wash it it will re solidify the gold into a powder. oh and that peroxide is very strong I don't know if you need it 35 percent i have seen sreetips on you tube do it with 3 percent and i have also. It takes longer though.
@yossarianmnichols9641
2 жыл бұрын
excellent tutorial, you learn more from failure than you do from success
@benlee4940
3 жыл бұрын
Might be worth experimenting with dissolved oxygen to oxidise the sulphides... 4 x 5 Gallon buckets with aquarium pumps. 50g of ore in each and some water. one with no air as a control, one with just air, one with some lye and one with some acid, probably sulphuric acid, but it might be worth using Hydrochloric acid, and seeing if anything cements out on copper afterwards. Leave them for a week then do the same process you used in this video to see if it has any affect. Temperature will have an affect, so as a minimum just note down what the temperature was when you did it, or try another set of buckets somewhere warmer than your shop if you can. If it works, it's certainly cheaper than peroxide. Probably won't be as good or fast as roasting, but might be worth experimenting. From what I've read about using Hydrogen peroxide, it's mainly for cyanide leaching where they add oxygen, the peroxide is used to bring the yield back up from the increased oxygen consumption caused by the sulphides. It's also used with HCl to dissolve the gold, as others have said, this avoids using Cyanide leaching.
@MrAllan9
3 жыл бұрын
My favorite gold recovery videos.👍
@sparky6086
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe using Hydrogen Peroxide in tandem with Hydrochloric Acid, as you say, some have suggested, would make this technique work much better, where it was cost effective?
@izysly1462
3 жыл бұрын
I would precipitate the decanted fluid ,or just evaporate it down to recover gold values.
@mfree80286
2 жыл бұрын
Your gold there is likely superfine powder that was stripped physically from the ore by the peroxide getting underneath and decomposing, popping it off. Which means it's good to see it, but the yield ultimately would have been similar anyways. You must have a little manganese in your ore, that H2O2 catalyzed extremely quickly... but that also means it all decomposed without doing much chemically.
@jimmyfish632
Жыл бұрын
I’m sure it’s been said but the bubbling reaction will never stop and one treatment will probably do it. The oxygen from the peroxide is released by iron oxide catalytically
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof
Жыл бұрын
Hydrochloric and peroxide will put it into solution as Gold chloride that said I would suggest you try that because I don't know about the soft lights but that peroxide kind of expensive to be going through it as fast as you are on a meager 50 g which doesn't seem to be that cost-effective
@walkthroughguru
3 жыл бұрын
If you add Hcl and the H2O2 you will disolve gold likely
@ipoint01
2 жыл бұрын
It's HCl and HNO3, mixed together that creates Aqua Regia which is capable of dissolving gold
@ricksimpson8048
2 жыл бұрын
Yep it will definitely dissolve any gold cause when you mix those you basically have (Aqua Regina)
@hondosmith3172
5 ай бұрын
Not without nitric acid
@walkthroughguru
5 ай бұрын
@@hondosmith3172 doesn't work like that. Any strong oxodizer mixed with hcl will disolve gold. You can even disolve gold using nitrate salts like potasium nitrate or sodium nitrate ect... mixed with hcl.
@hondosmith3172
5 ай бұрын
@@walkthroughguru cool, I really am just beginning to learn this stuff
@johncos1068
3 жыл бұрын
Good experiment. Would have been cool to have 3 samples, no treatment, hydrogen peroxide treatment, and roast. Would also love to see a leach with sodium cyanide. Not sure if that is possible or not?
@jasonvoth2427
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man I live in concrete just east of you and I appreciate this video big time man help me out a lot in my situation
@jcoop3660
3 жыл бұрын
Some of the black sand is fe04....black iron oxide. Heating before peroxide would likely make more red n brown w less black left.
@harlandbiggs5635
3 жыл бұрын
This was fun to watch! Thanks for the tips!
@myriahjasmine1341
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you mixed vinegar with the peroxide and clean bottled water (not tap). Maybe a 1:1:1 ratio. 1 part vinegar, 1 part water, and 1part H202. I have a cleaning recipe of vinegar and peroxide and water in a spray bottle and it works great. Vinegar is acidic and the water could just dilute it a bit but also I have realized that hydrogen peroxide does react differently and have different reaction when it's mixed with water. Clean bottled water.
@mariodibenedetto4160
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video, bleach, vinegar,,140 degree,2 hours dissolve gold,then use zinc powder.
@shawnsmith9512
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you are doing much besides catalytic decomposition of the h2o2. You might be breaking up the particles some. I don’t know of any reactions that would take place without a acid(base) catalyst of some type. I am glad that you have some respect for the 35% peroxide. It’s got almost enough energy in it to turn all the water to steam in an instant and increase in volume 12000x. You can build yourself a jetpack and run it with what you have left. FYI silver is a great decomp catalyst.
@williampendergrass186
3 жыл бұрын
It would have been interesting to see how much gold you got from panning the H2O2 vs the control 50gm.
@mbmmllc
3 жыл бұрын
good idea!
@thereforeayam
3 жыл бұрын
I knew a guy that knew con artist stuff. He used to keep a big jar 1/3 full of acid. He'd throw bits of discarded computer chips, etc, in there because it "got the gold out".
@walterrusiat8386
2 жыл бұрын
Just make my day, nice video. Question: Can Hydro Peroxide burn dry sand gold..
@wbwillie
2 жыл бұрын
holy crap, that's a hell of a reaction
@johnnysilverado3234
12 күн бұрын
Hi Jason. This is a topic that I’m constantly working on. In the old days, especially in Australia they pre treated the ore by roasting it before crushing, what are your thoughts on this for the smaller scale miners working hard rock such as myself?
@AU-Hunt
6 ай бұрын
Watching this and a notification came up for a new one 💪😏 keepem comin ..love the content
@richardhoffman9729
3 жыл бұрын
Could some of the gold be in solution with the decanted liquid?
@edwardcoleman8745
3 жыл бұрын
Don't the dust that is flying away have gold Dust in it ?
@ManMountainMetals
3 жыл бұрын
@@reverendtfg6802 Maybe because gold is so heavy it would have to be literally microscopic to be lofted into the air, perhaps?
@ManMountainMetals
3 жыл бұрын
@@reverendtfg6802 Trace amounts not economically viable for recovery.
@comptegoogle511
11 ай бұрын
KNO3 is water soluble. That would be more cost-effective as an oxidizer at room temperature.
@dewardtaylor4192
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time Jason it was a great video
@paulcoover9197
3 жыл бұрын
Platinum will never stop bubbling
@ministryofmetals2462
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not expert but if theres a chemical reaction occuring (hence the bubbling) it will not last forever*
@wayne-oo
3 жыл бұрын
Great experiment !
@inthenightandy4616
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Found the mat explanation very helpful.
@mbmmllc
3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@tommodern1
Жыл бұрын
So are you saying that if you smelt with iron you can get a precious metal bead without using lead and cupellation process? If youre using iron do you have to reach 2700* F?
@r0cketplumber
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure even well-reacted metal oxides will still catalyze peroxide, just a bit less than the sulfides. I know from personal experience that 90% peroxide is much more enthusiastic in its reactions and once mixed with pain old dirt, keeps going until the concentration is very low, particularly when hot. To get a more accurate check of the sample mass, I think you should have boiled away the used peroxide that carried away some fines, and added them back into the sample. That probably would have brought it back up close to 50 grams.
@williamscoggin1509
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure but on the side of caution I would not let that vapor get on your skin it could do some irritation. I would stand up wind all the reaction is happening. Also want another point we were cleaning grease off the concrete floors of an old shop once and poured muriatic acid on the concrete to eat the grease out where they used to work on tractors in the vapors arrested anything that had iron content and wasn't painted anywhere it was located in the shop. Might be something you might want to try on this if you haven't already. The only thing I know for sure is you don't mix bleach with hydrogen peroxide because it immediately gives off sulfuric acid gas and you had to leave immediately.
@XtreeM_FaiL
Жыл бұрын
Vapor is just oxygen and water. "The only thing I know for sure is you don't mix bleach with hydrogen peroxide because it immediately gives off sulfuric acid gas" And where does the sulfur comes from? NaClO + H2O2 I see no S anywhere
@frankzahn7773
3 жыл бұрын
What would happen if you put lead as a collector? Would the lead collect the free gold that was in the gold pan?
@embuscadosmetais
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic your videos, I have a question, would it be interesting to burn the ore before soaking it in H2O2?
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof
2 жыл бұрын
Milling it may have done as much as the peroxide and I wonder if you were to Mill it out much finer if that would make a much easier job of it
@briancummings1206
2 жыл бұрын
Might be interesting to see if sprinkling the matrix into the solution vs pouring the solution into the matrix would use less of the solution, or perhaps remove more of the sulfates?
@jimmy7144
Ай бұрын
I use at least 12.5% in my gold sand and black sand and crushed ore but I roast it all first and let it cool down and the fry the hell out of all my material but I let it sit in peroxide for at least five hours. I get a better yield by at least 25% by doing it this way.
@matthewwilson5128
Жыл бұрын
Now you've got me wondering if a water electrolysis chamber might not work on oxidizing away sulfides with time and agitation. I can imagine the free oxygen ions combining rather well but I am not sure what effect the free hydrogen ions would have on the concentrates.
@Yamcha27
2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, have you ever used potassium permanganate for extracting metals?
@geoffc1694
3 жыл бұрын
The sulfides oxidise to elemental sulfur and sulfates dropping the gold as they do. Nitric acid + hydrogen peroxide might be a better combination but may dissolve gold which then recements out as the potential drops
@dumpbear0
3 жыл бұрын
You can buy H2O2 from hair salons or hair salon supply stores at 40% & 50% by volume and it’s cheaper but be sure to get the liquid not the cream. I use it for bleaching skulls for European mounts.
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