I found this video really amusing, but I’m glad you found a motorcycle you enjoy. I’ve owned both. I would agree the air filter was a nuisance to change.
@ronrobertson59
8 ай бұрын
In the 55 yrs I been riding I've owned eleven Harley's and three real Indians (46, 48, 46). I do all my own work my bikes have been nothing but dependable. If you don't wrench and have access to a machine shop like I did buy Japanese. The only drawback is poor resale value all my all my bikes I sold for more than I paid after yrs of riding them. This guy is correct about leaving your bike bone stock. Im 70 I been looking at a Yamaha for a big ride since the three bikes I have (46 Chief a 72 FLH a 98 FLSTF) aren't road trip bikes. Good video thanks.
@user-bu2en3cl6s
6 ай бұрын
If resale is a consideration when purchasing a motorcycle (ANY motorcycle), you should stay home.
@andygrengs2838
2 жыл бұрын
I went shopping for a new bike in 2008, starting with the Goldwing. At 6'3" I found it would just not fit. Ended up buying a Royal Star Venture exactly like yours and have loved it since.
@jamesbottger5894
3 ай бұрын
You are 100% correct saying the Gold Wing is more difficult to work on. It just is. One thing about rear tire removal. The 2018+ Gold Wings have a single sided swing arm, which makes removal extremely easy. No saddle bag removal is necessary. All that's required is removing the lower portion of the rear fender, and remove the 5 lug nuts holding the rim on. It's that simple. Takes maybe 5 minutes to remove. I'm still laughing at your statement that the Gold Wing has too much power, there is no such thing...also 40-45 MPG is common with the '18+ Wing, which I think is pretty decent...
@wilsonnichols7088
2 жыл бұрын
I am glad you found a motorcycle that is right for you. I own both a gold wing and a eluder GT. There is no such thing as to much power. That's on page one of the man handbook. The air filter change is only 2 hours. Access to the other parts is not important. I have 175 thou miles on mine. Oil change and spark plugs only.
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
thanks for reading and leaving a reply Wilson. Over the decades, I have found that riding well does not necessarily mean riding fast. Technique, dissecting the road, approaching each corner correctly, Setting up each turn to have the highest exit speed, getting on the brakes late as you dare, being in the right gear at the right RPM on the exit, that is actually more important than having access power you can’t use. I find that to be true on the street, and I found to be especially true during my road racing days during which I wonsix road racing championships, and two time national champion.. that was a long time ago, and I’ll be the first one to admit it I am a has been. But, Its better to be a has-been, than a never been.. It wasn’t high horsepower that helped me win those championships.. it was my race craft and experience. I raced 250s and 350s. But most of the time, the time elapsed from start to finish of my races was usually about 20 seconds shorter than the 750 and even the unlimited displacement races.. horsepower did not get them around the track any faster than me on my 250. when you hit the brakes on a 250, you can’t get the speed back as you exit a corner just by pulling the trigger. You have to maintain a higher momentum and get on the brakes a lot later. it’s all about momentum,It’s not all about horsepower. So when you say High horsepower is on page one of the man handbook, I never read that handbook, or needed it
@MrBeracah
Ай бұрын
I agree with all of your comments, usable torque is of far more importance than maximum horsepower. I found the goldwing so boring it was like riding on an armchair, no feel or sense of excitement being on a motorcycle.
@altec19
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing appreciate your input I have an 07 just like that mines galaxy blue/raven had it for almost 10 years absolutely no problems
@gerralstephens2833
2 жыл бұрын
To each his own Brother. Goldwing best bike I ever been on. Period.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
Oh I totally agree gold wings are perfect, no doubt about it. They have the best suspension, they handle better especially at higher speeds,. Great seat, they’re as reliable as a sledgehammer, they are eerily smooth, as long as you’re not over 6 foot tall they are roomy enough, there are millions of trinkets available if you’d like that, they have no common problem areas (except for the four-way flasher control that sticks on, and cost hundreds of dollars to replace).. Gold wings are perfect. They’re as perfect as a Toyota Corolla. They run for hundreds of thousands of miles and nothing breaks. they are a Honda dealership service department’s dream when it comes to service.. no job is too small. There are not many jobs in service on a Goldwing it won’t cost you at least an hour labor which is $125 an hr ,maybe changing the oil and filter you might escape with a labor charge less than an hour labor or a throttle cable adjustment.. but when that mechanic has to start removing all those plastic panels, there are no simple jobs. They are the most complex compact motorcycles not only that I have ever owned, but that I have ever worked on as a mechanic. They make working on a Honda CBX for the Honda CX 500 & 650 turbos seem simple .. I have started all the way through to the finish of changing the topend ,including the camshaft which required pulling the engine on a Honda 350 twins faster than I could change the air filter on a Goldwing. I could pull the engine on a 750 Honda K1, replace the camshaft and the timing chain/timing chain tensioner, button it back up and have that bike running in less time than it took me to change the air filter on the Godwing… i’ve done both jobs.. I did some math. These gold wings are known to go over 200,000 miles 300,000 miles. OK so let’s say you do not do your own air filter changes on your Goldwing. You take it to the dealer every 25,000 miles for an air filter change. Just the labor cost of changing air filters every 25,000 miles for 200,000 miles, is going to cost the owner over $5000 in labor.. not including the cost of the air filters.. that’s just an example of how difficult and expensive it is to own a gold wing and service it.. I know there will be people that say that’s crazy, they could change an air filter in three hours on a Goldwing, but that’s not the way a Honda dealership charges , or any service department, they go buy a thing called the flat rate manual. They open the book and there is a schedule in there that shows how many hours labor to charge for particular jobs on most vehicles. changing the air filter on a gold wing is something like five or six hours labor.. if the dealership service department mechanic can change that air filter in three hours, In the business that’s called beating flat rate, that’s great for the service department and the mechanic, but they’re still gonna charge you what the flat rate manual says to charge. That’s how they make money enough to stay in business.. actually motorcycle dealerships are lucky to break even selling a new motorcycles. They might make a lot of money when bikes come in Brand New and if they sell them within the first 30 or 60 days. They will make a profit on that motorcycle. But the bikes that sit there for over six months or over a year, they’re paying 1% per month interest to the bank. The dealer does not own the bikes on the floor which is called the floorplan. But companies like Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, they will pay the interest on the floor plan for the dealer for the first six months, or if they take a bigger allotment of machines, they will pay that interest for as long as a year, and if they take a lot of bikes that are tough to sell, they will get those bikes at a lower cost, and, The factory will pay for radio ads and billboards if the dealer really takes a big chunk, that’s why you see dealerships far away advertising bikes at very very low prices, which hurts local dealers when faraway dealers to take a big floorplan to get those perks, just wants to unload those machines .. but with most dealers,the money they made on the bikes that sold fast, they loose paying interest on the bikes that have not sold fast. I’ve worked at dealerships that had bikes that sat for four years unsold. I’ve worked for dealerships that would sell a motorcycle like that at a loss because once they get a few years old it’s tough to sell them. A motorcycle that costs $8000 and he’s paying onepercent per month interest on that one machine for four years, that’s $960 a year for four years. I work for a dealership that had a motorcycle like that he ended up selling it for $5000. even though he had been paying interest on it all that time.. but it was four years old. Dealerships will sell motocross bikes pretty close to the cost because those guys are in every monday buying all the parts that they need from the hammering motocross bikes take. They always need tires, chains, sprockets, handlebars, plastic, air filters, pistons, rings, gaskets, clutches, oil, spark plugs, cables, the riders always need pants, boots, armor, gloves, helmets, that’s where you make your money selling parts, not bikes, but if you don’t give the bikes away, you don’t sell parts and accessories. So you have to give the bikes away in order to sell parts, and to have a service department that makes money for you.. you lose money on bikes, selling parts pays for your help, your rent, your utilities, your insurance, and the service department is your golden goose, and gold wings are a service departments dream.. I do all my own work, I can do the work, but I don’t want to work on a goldwing after owning and working on one..And I sure as hell am not gonna pay somebody to work on my machines.. Not only that, I like the feel and the roominess of my royal star venture over the gold wing. Gold wings are so smooth you cannot feel them running, my Venture is not as smooth, but it’s alive and I can feel it, I can feel that it has a pulse. It’s not a paint shaker vibration like some machines, it’s just that you know it’s alive, it’s a living breathing thing. It has adequate power, it’s just as reliable as A Goldwing, there are known for going hundreds of thousands of Miles trouble free and Venture looks like a motor cycle. You can actually see the motor which is the centerpiece of most motorcycles except for the gold wing.. I can’t even see the motor on that motorcycle/ goldwing.. it’s like having a Toyota Corolla. Can’t see the motor on that either. It’s so smooth that it’s boring like a Toyota corolla actually.. it’s like having a Toyota Corolla with a six cylinder engine. It will get you there, everything will work, and it will last for hundreds of thousands of miles. Just don’t Touch that four-way flasher button I guess the difficulty in servicing the Goldwing, and the fact that I was actually bored with it is the reason I went back to the not as perfect , but a snap to service Venture
@frankward8003
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides I could change the air filter in my GL1800 in 2 hours...I do all my own work... sorry, the GL1800 is not as hard to work on as you are making it out to be.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
@@frankward8003 you are correct frank. It wasn’t really that hard to work on my GL 1800, it was not one big job to change the air filter or to get the rear shock absorber off so I could change the spring to match the front fork springs I installed. It wasn’t one big job, it was dozens and dozens of little jobs. to put it in layman’s terms, it’s almost like having to remove the roof on your house to change the furnace in the basementThat’s a bit of an exaggeration but not far from the truth. if you don’t do your own work , you’re going to pay somebody in the dealers service department to do all those little jobs. lets look at it this way - The dealer mechanics can probably change that air filter on the GL 1800 in half the time the flat rate book says the Dealer should charge the customer. If the mechanic can do it in two hours like you say you can, the dealer is still going to shake the customer by the ankles for five hours labor. if you agree to pay someone $10,000 to put a new roof on your house that he figures it’s going to take him two days with four men, and he is able to do it in one day with four men, he’s not gonna charge you half price. I was a flat rate mechanic in four different shops. that’s how I made at least 18 hours pay a day in just seven hours, that’s the way it is for pretty much all mechanics. That’s called beating flat rate.. there were days that I could make 24 hours pay in just seven hours. I got really fast at changing the camshaft in those junk Honda CB 350 twins. I was the specialist at the one dealership I worked at that had seven full-time mechanics. I got all the 350 Honda’s… I could easily do two top ends on those machines in seven hours. and I got paid eight flat rate hours for each one.. The hardest part of that job was scraping the old head gasket off.. that’s assuming that the dealer had all the parts in stock which I hated to box up a motorcycle that the dealer didn’t stock all the parts… all mechanics hate that… but The fact that a mechanic can do a job in less than half the time the flat rate manual says it should take, that doesn’t save the customer any money because the mechanic is fast. The customer is still gonna pay for the time that the flat rate manual says.. it’s a lot like when a dealer pulls out that NADA, or kelly blue book to tell you how worthless your car is, trade-in value when you’re looking to buy a new vehicle. Car dealers go by the book, and service departments go by the flat rate book.. that’s just the way it is.. OK so now that we have established how dealerships charge in the service department of car truck, motorcycle service departments. keep in mind that right now labor is about $125 an hour.. at least that’s what it was last time I checked. So that’s what the person that does not work on their own motorcycle will pay per hour, and the flat rate manual says it’s five hours to change the air filter, labor. so that is $625 labor just to change the air filter on a GL 1800. That’s what people on the Internet are saying they paid, but they didn’t just have the air filter changed, they generally had the oil , Oil filter , Final drive oil, maybe they had the drive shaft splines lubed, at least they should, ECT.. so let’s say you keep your Goldwing for 200,000 miles which everyone says they will do with ease. And I believe that no problem so let’s say the person that doesn’t even change their own air filter , pays the dealer to change it every 25,000 miles on a GL 1800. That’s eight air filter changes in 200,000 miles. Times $625. that is $5000 just for the labor of changing the air filters that’s added on to every oil change for tire change or whatever. $5000.. that is more than I paid for my GL 1800 when I bought it used with 13,000 miles on it. That’s more than I paid for my current royal star venture that I bought with 30,000 miles on it, that’s more than I paid for my current 2019 Kawasaki Z 400 that I bought with 900 miles on it.. that’s how much I sold my 2007 Moto Guzzi Norge for last June, 2021.. that’s more than the cost of my homeowners insurance with $1 million umbrella policy, more than I paid for my ram hemi pick up and my wife’s Honda CRV, my Yamaha royal star venture, and my Kawasaki Z 400 full coverage insurance with $500,000 in liability coverage for the last three years combined.. that’s more than I have probably paid for shoes that I have bought over my entire life. when my wife and I go out to dinner to a place like Applebee’s, with a couple drinks it’s usually around $45 for both of us with a tip. That means my wife and I could have gone out to dinner over 100 times, that’s once a week for two years for the cost of eight air filter changes, just the labor, not counting the air filter.. so looking at it that way, that’s how much the unsuspecting GL 1800 owner is going to pay just to have the air filter changed eight times in 200,000 miles. Sheds a different light on it, doesn’t it? I do not criticize the dealer for charging that much because I myself was a mechanic full-time for two years, part time for I don’t know how many years until I got into sales of new motorcycles for 17 years part time, evenings and weekends January through May.. so I do not fault the dealer for charging that much because after doing the job, the first time I did it which was the last time I did it, A dealer charging $625 is about right..I don’t work for nothing, and I don’t expect anyone else to.. nothing is difficult when you know how to do it. I can do all this workOf course the first time was the hardest, keeping track of all those different size fairing fasteners and keeping track of which ones go exactly where. The only things I can’t do anymore is cylinder boring, or Kawasaki two stroke triple crankshaft rebuilding. I don’t have the jigs. Sometimes I have to go out and buy a new size seal driver when I buy A machine that has different diameter fork tubes when I change seals/bushings. But I can handle pretty much anything else, at least I have up until now, I did all my own tuning and maintenance and engine building when I road raced motorcycles, Winning six championships, and I was national champion two times on machines that i set up , tuned (mostly for altitude, air pressure, even humidity and temperature, there’s a big difference with a motorcycle that has carburetors when you’re at sea level or at 5000 feet above sea level) I learned to keep my machines totally stock, the factory knows more than we do,, so frank, that’s good that you can change your air filter in approximately two hours. By contrast, I could have my air cleaner housing off of my Venture, which doesn’t require moving any parts out of the way, or removing any fairing panels or the gas tank which is actually the gas tank. I could probably have each air cleaner housing off in under 30 seconds.. to put it another way. I could definitely have each air cleaner housing off of my machine while holding my breath.. that’s why I went back to a simple venture from a Goldwing. Because being an ex-mechanic, I have seen what can go wrong. Most motorcycles do not wear out, they are neglected to death. And my machines do not get neglected. But a motorcycle that is difficult to do basic maintenance on, absolutely positively gets neglected. when I bought my GL 1800 from the original owner with only 13,000 miles on it. It was 14 years old. It still had the original tires on it, original air cleaner, he never changed the brake fluid or the clutch fluid, or the final drive fluid, or the coolant.. when I asked him about the air cleaner, he said he never had it done because of the cost, so he kept putting it off year after year after year. it’s like several Ducati owners I know. They have Desmo ( no valve springs) valve systems.. A valve adjustment can cost over $4000 on a Ducati.. so the Ducati owners that I know have never had their valves adjusted, never… not even checked with a feeler gauge.. they can’t do the work themselves because it’s pretty sophisticated, and they won’t pay somebody to do it until something breaks. And that which ought to be done and isn’t ,is more expensive..
@deltabluesdavidraye
Жыл бұрын
The slow speed handling and the looks are horrid on a goldwing.
@deltabluesdavidraye
Жыл бұрын
@@frankward8003 two hours to change a air filter!!!? That is horrible.
@ironroad5549
2 жыл бұрын
I had a 2004 venture wish I still had it that bike was my wife's favorite out of the 22 bikes I've owned .
@fedup7416
2 жыл бұрын
Bought a 2006 Midnight Venture last July, had 17000 kilometers on it,(10,500 miles) one owner. My take on it, Cons.1, imposing size and weight. 2, top heavy and tall for a 30" inseam. 3, seat way to soft, and for me, uncomfortable. 4 cassette player, wtf? 5, fork mounted fairing and wind deflectors, major buffeting in a head wind at highway speeds.6, loud whining noise from square cut gears, wish there was a way to quit the whine. Pros. 1,Love the looks, all that chrome and black paint. 2, Love the motor, lots of power. My research said 98 ftlbs, 99 hp, take it with a grain of salt. It does however go like stink. 3, handling for such a beast is very good, once you learn how to use it. 4, so far, easy to work on, as long as I don't need carbs overhauled,(4 carbs, yikes) 5, I get a steady 50 mpg, our Canadian gallon though, is 1 liter larger than a US gallon. 6, Very comfy for the long rides, I'm fast approaching 74 and can ride all day with no pain,(had the seat modified). Long story short, Great bike for touring, the more I ride it the more I like it. sheesh, I'm all out of breath.
@gabbyhayes1568
2 жыл бұрын
I rode a 2005 Midnight RSV for 10 years. I have to say I agree with everything you said about the RSV. Great bike. I've had the new 2018 Star Transcontinental Venture for two years now (bought it 2019 with 1,550 miles) and it's a much different bike. The RSV loves the revs and the V-4 is quicker than the SVTC, but does not have near the low end torque. Both are great bikes, but I like the ride quality (suspension & handling) of the SVTC much better. It's got all the modern tech (i.e. cruise control, traction control, ABS, navigation, tire pressure monitors, CB, FM, AM, blue tooth, two ride modes, electronic windshield, heated seats, grips, forward assist, reverse, etc.) and is more comfortable.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
@@gabbyhayes1568 The thing I like best about my royal star venture, and all of my 108 motorcycles so far. I paid cash for them. I’m one of those if i don’t have the money you don’t buy it guys.. I pretty much did that by flipping motorcycles. Every time I buy a bike, it’s for sale the next day, not advertised, but if someone wants to buy it, I’ll sell it, and move up to something better
@BigBadLoneWolf
Жыл бұрын
took my carbs off in 10 minutes, i can also balance the carbs without the need to remove the tank
@sprezzatura8755
9 күн бұрын
That's good to know I just bought a 1996 Royal Star base. It's been sitting awhile so I expect I will have to pull the carbs and go through them. It's a good idea anyway, especially with the crappy gas in California.
@territodude
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jody, thanks for getting back to me. I'm with you on the manuals, just didn't take the time to look on ebay at the time so grabbed a Clymer manual for 30. Not as bad as the Haynes, but definitely not as good as the shop manuals like I had for the Buick Parks we owned over the years. Also, this was my first bike and I wasn't certain if I would keep it long, more of a bucket list, thing. Love it after I took care of the things it needed on it to make it run. I get close to 40mpg consistently., re-filling with 2 gallons of non- ethanol at 80 miles or close to that. I did make it sound a little beefier on the exhaust by removing the outer cones in the exhaust and drilling 5 holes, 3/8 " inch evenly spaced into the baffle, sounds better but still could be a bit louder. I've had the royal star about 1.5 years and put about 16k miles on it. without a glitch other than changing the clutch spring, not a bad job. With you on going for the gold but not so much on Pennsylvania having more rattlesnakes than AZ. May want to do some more research on that one. Got my first big lesson while wild boar hunting in the desert between Phx and Tucson having walked upon a rather large and intimidating rattlesnake. Learned how high I could jump. They all laughed back at camp. I'm going to do the bearings pretty soon as well. Have 36k on my royal star, bought it with a little over 20 from a widow of an older guy than me. He didn't take care of it very well, but I didn't buy it to show it off, just to ride and for 2,000 thought it was a great deal. Of course with the smaller 32mm carbs maybe not as fast as some other years but I don't need to go over 100 much. Take care
@robertcurtis3807
Жыл бұрын
I had a used 88 Caviler, a new 01 Sunfire, new 12 Lancer. And minor to no issues. I got a new 18 Volkswagen Passat and nothing but electrical, fuse, and computer issues and other issues. Once with the gasket and the car was new. No more European vehicles for me.
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
that makes two of us. The worst car my wife and I ever had right when we first got married was a brand new VW rabbit. Valve guide seals, electrical issues, the only clutch I ever had to replace in any of our vehicles ever, two clutch cables broke, in traffic.. there was a recall that made the car hesitate and Buck when starting out, that caused the exhaust header to break, they were all breaking because they were on backorder and salvage yards didn’t even have any left. I sold the car to my best friend they just wanted basic transportation to keep his Trans Am out of the salt and snow here in the winter., nobody knew that the antenna on those cars leaked water into the car and kept the floor saturated under the carpeting. My buddy had the car less than two years and it ended up breaking in a half straight down from the windshield because the floor was rusty/week.. that same buddy later became a big fan of BMW convertibles. He has had three of them so far that he buys that are returned leases.. he is a sucker for those warranties they sell you. $155 a month.. radiator sensor failed, not covered The automatic transmission selector arm that you could put into manual mode and shift like it was a standard shift broke, parts on back order, they were all breaking, not covered passenger power seat frame broke, not covered passenger power Window Control Center, Broke , not covered convertible top refused to go up, three dealers could not fix it, not covered, it turned out that the control module was in the lowest part of the trunk, submerged in water because the convertible top leaked my friend over the nine years he had those BMW convertibles paid over $18,000 just for the warranty coverage that did not cover major things his out-of-pocket costs to do the repairs that were not covered was over $12,000.. that’s $30,000 combined for repairs that were not covered and for warranty coverage that wasn’t worth it.. my friend is one of those people that doesn’t even change his own oil in his cars or his motorcycles, but he could make you a rolltop desk from scratch.. my son has a friend that is a BMW dealership mechanic. He loves BMWs. They are always having problems.. I know a guy that was a BMW motorcycle dealer mechanic. When I had my K 1200 LT, I had a question for him so I stopped in to see him at the shop. He had a bike like mine on the lift with the entire back of the bike removed all the way up to the flywheel. I asked him what is going on with this bike. He said the slave cylinder leaked on the clutch ruining it. I said what’s that gonna cost the owner. now this was in 2010, with 2010 prices. he said it’s gonna cost about $4500 to replace the clutch and slave cylinder on that BMW K 1200 LT motorcycle.. I guess here in 2023, that that same job would probably cost $6000 or more here 13 years later.. I agree with you. I ain’t never going out on that German vehicle limb again
@edwardmohr5798
2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2005 Royal Venture Tour Deluxe. Smooth, fast, unique. Of any bike in the same era, it out runs them, hands down.
@brianwhite3771
2 жыл бұрын
I had asked earlier in the post if a Ventura runs and rides as smoothly as a gl1800? My hands go numb if vibration is noticeable. Thanks in advance
@charlessadler1721
2 жыл бұрын
I had a 2008 royal star venture. My wife loved the passenger seat. To me the bike was to top heavy for in town riding, the riding position hurt my back after two hours and the heat off the engine would cook my feet and lower legs. I never got above 38 mpg with it. It was a beautiful bike but I ended up selling it for a bike that I was more comfortable on and that I could ride longer than 2 hours without back pain.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I dig what you’re saying about back pain. Actually the goldwing i bought sold to buy this Venture, it actually hurt my back when I used the Honda backrest. That was surprising. On the flipside of that, the back rest on this Venture I have now is no problem.. my favorite motorcycle out of 108 I’ve had so far, was my Moto Guzzi Norge..My fourth Guzzi since 1979.. I love to go look, I loved the gear ratios wide and well spaced, I loved the motor. It had a pulse, it was alive. It was a little lite,Yeah it had fantastic breaks, I actually had a BS that could be turned off, and if there was a problem with the ABS they automatically reverted to conventional breaks... it would display fault codes on the computer display on the dashboard if anything feels like an oxygen sensor, but nothing ever did fail.. to adjust the valves took about 30 minutes, I didn’t even have to remove the fuel tank.. Bad motorcycle had a soul… it was a 2007, I sold it in 2021 because, I could not ride it for more than two hours. The riding position was just too cramped for my legs… and that is the one unforgivable thing about any vehicle, if you are not comfortable on it, what good is it..
@j0m026
2 жыл бұрын
Had an 89 Venture Royale, Was a fun reliable, and fixible, and fast when it needed to be bike...
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
Your generation of Venture was definitely the fastest. I had an 86. Those machines had 35 mm carburetors, and they turned 12 second quarter mile times. The newer generation called the royal star venture’s have 31 mm carburetors, and they are in a milder state of tune (I think).. I miss not having the center stand the venture royale has.. yes that generation Venture royale you had would run without running with it…
@MrChaiguy
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been researching Yamaha Ventures and I continue to find a recurring theme, and that is everyone who has owned one and sold it, regrets selling it. No matter what bike they replace it with, they regret ever selling it. I think that's quite a testament to the bike.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I am a three time Yamaha Venture repeat buyer.. Now that Honda has announced they will no longer make gold wings, I wonder what’s going to happen to used big touring bike prices. It will be interesting
@mrwhite2628
2 жыл бұрын
It takes 2 hours max to change a GL1800 air filter. Also. You can change the rear shock in an hour and a half if you know what you're doing. The Venture is a good bike. But I would take a 300000 mile wing over any of them. Goldwings are simply better machines.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
Jeff. east is east and all that.. how about this.. you believe me- and i’ll believe you..
@wingandhog
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure of what it takes to remove / replace the rear shock on a GL1800 but I remember hearing Max over At Traxxion Dynamics say they developed a process to remove it in very short order. I believe they can change out the complete front and rear suspension in 3 hours if not mistaken. You can take your bike in and hang out in the waiting room to have this done. When I need to replace suspension stuff on my wing, I will spend the $4k and have them do it. I look at it as an investment since my Wing will hopefully be the last motorcycle I buy. I am 62 On a side note: I bought my first Wing last June. It’s a pristine 08 that only had 26k miles on it and it was methodically cared for. I have a few videos on my channel.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
@@wingandhog traction dynamics will upgrade the shock in three hours for $4000 wow. I did not even spend that much on my venture when I bought it in September 2021.. You are only 62? I wish I was 62 again. I don’t like spending that kind of money on my toys. I have never had loan for a motorcycle.. if I don’t have the cash, I don’t buy it, whether it’s a new truck or a new car for my wife or a motorcycle. And motorcycles are not necessities. They are a luxury toy, a hobby. And when I get bored with something, I sell it.. I actually enjoy working on motorcycles more than riding them it seems. Preventative work, not blowups or crashed bikes. I never buy them.. I collided with a deer at 70 miles an hour on my BMW K 1200 LT. $5500 damage, that was 2010 $5500 damage. Probably would be about $10,000 today. I did not want to do the work. I let the insurance company have it fixed. I didn’t go down, I just coasted to stop with no lights in the dark.. changing the shock on the goldwing i bought, wasn’t one big job, that’s not how I approach maintenance, it was about 70 little jobs just to get the shock absorber off, and the same to get it back on. Take this cover off, take the screws out, remove this bracket, keep track of these bolts, unplug this harness, unplug that harness, take the four bolts out to remove the seat, ECT,
@wingandhog
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides thanks for your input Jody. I pay cash for everything to. I don’t borrow money. Especially for toys. If I can’t afford something, I don’t spend. Glad you were ok after hitting a deer. I lost a close friend a few years ago who hit a cow at night on one of the backroads here in NM. We have a lot of ranch land here. It was a fluke but he didn’t survive it.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
@@wingandhog 1970 a buddy of mine was driving home from school for the weekend to see his girlfriend and he ran into a herd of cows in his Oldsmobile cutlass sideways. He was going to school to be a body man, and he fixed it himself. He was pissed off because it did not even knock one of the cows over.. i’ve actually collided with two deer while riding a motorcycle, 70 miles an hour and 30 miles an hour. I didn’t go down either time, but I’ve also collided with two deer while driving my cars, my wife collided with three deer so far, and my two sons of each collided with one deer.. my wife and I go through 200 pounds of corn for the deer every month. We have as many as 14 here at one time, but at least six a day, the turkeys love it too.. we expect three of the females to have babies any minute. My wife feeds them out of her hand.. deer have completely changed my attitude towards riding motorcycles. One of my favorite times to ride in the summer was when there was a full moon on a clear night. I live about 15 miles north of Pittsburgh, I would head out around 9 PM by myself and ride up to Lake Erie and back.. up interstate 79 during the week, I would have the highway all to myself. I would see deer crossing the road, and I always thought that they could see me because of the headlights.. after my second deer collision while riding motorcycles. I started putting deer whistles on my bikes. I was at my local post office one day , A postal truck driver that drives from post office to post office picking up and dropping off mail saw those whistles on my bike and said they do not work. He said he tried every type of whistle or even the electronic ones, he said if anything, the start of the deer and make them run in the direction they feel safe, which is sometimes across your path to get there. He said he has the record for Pennsylvania postal workers and deer collisions, 16.. So I completely quit riding at night and early morning. There are more deer in this country right now then when Columbus landed here. We’ve eliminated all their predators
@samueljeppsen9785
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you mate!! Had two friends who had a Yamaha 1300 v4 Venture. Both had over 150K miles on them. GREAT bikes!!
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I can tell by your accent That you may see kangaroos from time to time
@samueljeppsen9785
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides...lol...
@paulzumpf3612
2 ай бұрын
If your wing was getting less than 40 mpg, it had a problem. It you lay a GL1800 down carefully in the grass, you can just remove the lug nuts and nothing else to change the rear tire.
@Jodyrides
2 ай бұрын
you might be right about the fact that there may have been a problem with my Goldwing on the getting low 30s for gas mileage. But no codes or warning lights..my plugs came out gray, not black when I changed them and they were all the same color… if there was a problem with the oxygen sensor or the mass airflow sensor, if there is one, the plugs would’ve been black, or even wet.. I put a new air cleaner in first thing, because the original owner told me he had never done that and he was not gonna pay the shop for six hours labor just to change the air cleaner.. I thought that was ridiculous when I heard that, until I did the job myself. Six hours is just about right. A pro mechanic that has done the job. A few times could probably do it in under four hours… I think I could’ve done it in around four hours having done the job once already I did see a video of a guy that put a piece of carpet down and laid his Goldwing 1800 over on its side to get the rear wheel out. That’s fine, but I don’t understand why he had to do that if he had a center stand. I removed that panel between the saddlebags where the license plate is attached, I unbolted the rear wheel, and it rolled right out from between the saddlebags. I thought that was very slick. With the way Honda designed that. On my venture, I have to remove both saddlebags to get the rear axle out and the brake caliper off to remove the wheel. Now it only takes a couple minutes to remove each saddlebag once you have them empty on the venture, four screws hold each bag on, no lights , no wiring, no electric remote control blocks on the venture bags, simple.. but I do have to remove both bags to get the rear wheel off the machine.. and I have to use a scissor, jack that I have videos of him on KZitem to hold the machine up since the venture does not have a center stand. I don’t know why they did that because my first venture had a center stand… My Goldwing was perfect. When I was done, fresh, fork, springs, bushings and seals in the forks, fresh air cleaner, new, spark plugs, flushed the clutch fluid, and the brake fluid, change the coolant, change the final drive oil, change the motor oil and oil filter., changed the rear shock spring to match the fork springs, new OEM vented stock windshield.. I bought all new brake pads for the front and the rear in anticipation of it needing them, but I discovered after I pulled the wheels to put new Dunlop elite four tires on, that the brake pads were fine after 16 years. The machine only had 13 K miles on it when I bought it from the original owner, so I gave the guy I sold it to the two new oil filters I bought for it and the new brake pads that I never used.. I drove past the guy that bought my Goldwing house, and he still has it as of November 2023. I sold it to him in 2021… That was a perfect bike when I sold it. I just didn’t like it.
@robdavis2
5 ай бұрын
I'd love to see an in depth video of you giving a review, of the experience that you had with the BMW.
@Jodyrides
5 ай бұрын
i’ll give you a mini List of just SOME of the reasons I gave up on my BMW after trying for two years to fall in love with it.. keep in mind, I do all my own work. I used to be a motorcycle mechanic at three different dealerships. I’ve always been able to take the little screws and bolts apart, and put things back together with no parts left over… I was my own mechanic when I roadraced motorcycles, winning six championships in eight years, two time national champion, I can tell you, that was not fun.. so I had a Venture 16 years, I bought another venture, had that 4 years, I decided I should have the best sometime in my life so I bought the BMW K 1200 LT Nice ride, gorgeous bike, I didn’t care about the six cd changer in the left saddle bag, I didn’t care about reverse, I never turned the radio on any of my machines with radios or the intercom or the CB …They just need to be able to carry everything I need, weather, protection, and a good seat. The BMW had all the basics I want .. when I parked that machine on the side stand, it would pour oil smoke out the exhaust like a Kawasaki 500 cc two stroke triple when i restarted ..The dealer said that’s normal. Don’t worry about it. The back brakes screamed like metal on metal so badly, that I resisted using the back brake.. it was head turning loud.. I am not going to correct the spelling on the word break or breaks because I am dictating this. I’m not typing it. The windshield on that motorcycle I had to look through because I’m 5 foot 10. I could not look over it. It was the most distorted windshield ever. The dealer said he could get me an aftermarket windshield, but there was no recall on the windshield. It had a security system built-in that was controlled by the key fob. Every time I stopped for gas. I had to dig that key fob out of my pocket and disarm the system so the bike would start. a pain every time I stopped, because I don’t let my keys or key fobs dangle on a key ring, beating the hell out of the dashboard. there were warnings on the Internet to change the clutch fluid and brake fluid at least every two years because the system had electric powered servos that applied brake pressure to the calipers. I was going to do the work myself, but for kicks I asked the dealer while I was there buying an oil filter how much it cost to have the brake fluid flush. This is the 2009 price, $750, plus parts, plus shop materials. , Plus disposal fee, plus tax.. I bought the attachment for the master cylinder, so the system would not be sucked dry by accident while bleeding the brakes. I did the job myself and under 90 minutes the first time for less than $60.. I was going down a country road covered with fly ash on a downhill section. About 100 yards long. I touched the brakes just to get a feel, and I had no breaks, nothing front or rear. The ABS system took over, detected wheel slippage, and it would not give me anything. At the bottom of the hill was a right turn I was not going to make it that speed. So I ran straight through the grass at the bottom and ran into a wire fence around an auto salvage yard to stop on that 900 pound sled with no brakes. i felt lucky only breaking my front fender… that got me thinking. What if I had run out onto a four-lane highway because of the brake system on this machine. that got me thinking about selling it. Later : I was out for an evening ride just before sunset. I was in the middle of nowhere, there was a traffic light about two seconds ahead that had just turned yellow. There was no one waiting at the intersection roads, so I pulled the trigger and got through the intersection before it went to red on the lights. That increased my speed from 50 to 70. About five seconds later, a deer ran right across my path. I hit it right in the ribs with my headlight area. I pulled the clutch in, I did not touch the brakes, I coasted to a stop on the side of the road… I called the police because I needed a police report for the insurance. But they don’t do reports on vehicles that are drivable. So the lady cop gave me her business card with notes on the back and I could call her if I needed someone to verify that it was a deer strike. that impact caused the pop off mirrors to pop off and go straight to China. I never saw them again. They are just mirrors in plastic shrouds. They were not remote controlled, they were not heated. When I saw the estimate, in 2009, those mirrors were $492 each. That’s a piece of glass inside a plastic shroud. it was 14 or 15 years ago, those mirrors are probably $800 apiece now or more.. when I got my machine back from the repair shop. It was just like new, it was just a rotisserie replacement of the fairing and the fairing support and the mirrors and turn signals and headlight bucket etc.. so I’m online reading a review in rider magazine I think it was. Some guy was on a two week ride on a BMW K 1200 LT going back home to Tennessee to visit his parents. He was a writer for the magazine. On that trip, the final drive failed. He had to wait many days for the parts to come in to the BMW dealer that was doing the repairs. because the parts were on backorder due to numerous failures.. there were also pictures on the internet of a BMW GS with another failed final drive, the picture showed the final drive with a chunk missing out of the side of it and the gear lube was in flames. That was a report about final drive failures on BMWs. I brought this up to my dealer and asked if there was a recall. He said no that only happens on machines that are overloaded or pulling a trailer. That turned out to be not true about the overloading or pulling a trailer. That was happening on machines that just a single rider was on many times… Then there was the story of two guys riding in the iron butt rally Together on identical BMWs. That way they only needed to carry one spare part they could fit both machines just in case. One of the spares they were caring was a complete replacement final drive. That thing had to weigh 40 or 50 pounds… but they felt that it was absolutely necessary to carry that. What did they know? so I find myself not using the back brake at slow speeds, I velcrowed my key fob to my dashboard so I didn’t have to keep taking off my gloves to dig out the key fob. Every time I got gas so I could turn off the security system starting the bike. I did not use my side stand because the bike would blow oil all over the place out the exhaust on the restart. And. The second reason I used the center stand instead of the side stand was, every time I got gas, I got down on my knees and shook the back wheel checking the rear final drive bearings.. I never could get it out of my mind how those ABS brakes did not work at all on that slippery surface when I was on those cinders. I have been caught at work many times commuting on motorcycles like I did over 40 years now,and I would come out of work and get caught in the snow sometimes. One time I came out there were 6 inches of snow on the ground. I was on my Honda CB 400 F. I made it home here in hilly pittsburgh. But if I had a BMW with ABS brakes. I would not have made it out of the parking lot at work in the snow.. More and more I was not riding that machine on trips. I would ride one of my other machines and the BMW stayed home in the garage. I decided after all of those changes I had to make to my Riding habits , Owning that machine was a worry, I just didn’t trust it, and that oil filter I bought at the dealer was $26 back in 2009. How much are they today, probably 50 bucks. And by the way, I had three BMW dealerships within an hour of my home back in 2009/2010, all three of them are out of business today. I do not wonder why. that BMW did have a good faring, it had the best seat, thin, and shaped like a horse saddle. That machine was happy on the interstate type roads. But that front end that did not compress while breaking. When you hit the brakes when you hit a bump, that energy goes into the springs.. And the oil in the shock or forks, controls the spring. On that BMW, K 1200 LT with that weird for an end that no other company even attempted to copy, and those grabby electric no feel breaks., and all the weight, I never got comfortable with that machine because of the electric servo powered brakes, I had to not use the back brakes because of the screeching, grinding noise they made. It was Head turning when I would use those brakes. The dealer said he would fix that for $750 by replacing the rotor and pads with aftermarket items. add a bike night gathering, I saw a group of guys riding BMWs. I was talking to three of them that had the same model I had. I told them that I had dropped my machine twice in slow speed parking lots because of the way, the brakes in the front grab in the energy doesn’t go into the fork springs because of the anti-dive system. It just makes the bike a handful, and if you have the bars, turned, you better have strong legs. So I told him yeah I dropped it twice and I haven’t dropped the bike for over 30 years. they started laughing, and said, get used to it, everybody drops them, and they showed me their mirrors. They were telling the truth, everyone of those guys had dropped their K 1200 LT‘s because their mirrors were all scarred up… I had had enough. I didn’t trust the final drive, I didn’t like the brakes, I didn’t like how it smoked oil on the exhaust. If I use the side stand, I didn’t like the price of parts, I didn’t like that I had to buy special tools to do simple jobs like bleed the clutch. I sold it. That was my first and my last BMW.
@Walkercolt1
2 жыл бұрын
I got my Million Mile AMA Medallion last fall and being 67 and 5'9" and 156 lbs., the GoldWing is my choice for SuperSlab coast-to-coast riding. If I'm not just wanting to cover miles as fast as possible, I'll take my 1984 Honda VF1000F Interceptor down the backroad twisties and have some fun and see some stuff, which is how I've racked-up most of my miles is on sport bikes, including my 1964 Honda 305 SuperHawk! Really, I liked the 1200cc 4 cylinder Aspencades better than the behemoth 6 lungers-the -300 lbs weight riding single and 17 inch wheels and tires felt more predictable and stable to ME, and it had more than enough "stuff" to keep me entertained. I've been trying to talk a friend's widow out of his "Crate"..new shock and tires it'd be ready.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
My second motorcycle ever was a 305 super hawk.. my first one was a 305 scrambler. Not the same engine set up in those two machines. The super hawk and the 305 honda dream pistons both went up and down together. The difference between the superhawk and the dream was, the super hawk both pistons fired at the same time when they were both at TDC, the dream engine fired the Pistons 360° apart. The scrambler pistons were 180 apart.. leave it to Honda to get the most out of that design.. but then after those bikes Honda came up with that 350 parallel twin, and that motor was not that good. I was a mechanic at a dealership, and I was asked to be the 350 Honda specialist. Honda sent out a notice to all dealerships, to stock seven top end rebuild kits for every 10 350 Hondas the dealership sells, that engine was a camshaft eater, complicated by the fact that the engine had no oil filter, and all of that debris from the cam chewing into the aluminum bearing housings and destroying the thrust washers, all of that metal kept flowing through the engine with the oil. The aluminum supposedly did not do any damage, but those thrust washers did… did you have to replace the cam’s and do the oil upgrade kit on your VFR 1000 ? did your VFR pour a lot of heat on you? I had a Honda 700 saber with that V4 design. Mine had the CBX optional fairing and bags. That bike roasted me.. I didn’t keep it very long cause of the heat.. I would have guessed that you had done 1,000,000 miles on a BMW twin. Those BMW riders in those days were the ones that put the miles on. Too bad BMWs sure ain’t what they used to be… I never had one of those BMW boxer twins. I went for moto guzzis.. i’ve had four of them since 1979. I’ve always had a Moto Guzzi, one or the other since 1979 up until 2021 when I had a Norge.. how many deer have you hit while riding? I hit 2.. One and 35 miles an hour on my Honda Pacific coast and I was commuting to work on, I had that bike for 24 years. I think the Pacific coast is the most perfect well rounded motorcycle in the universe. it broke my heart to sell it, but it broke my heart more to see you’re just sitting there when I retired. my second year impact was riding my BMW K 1200 LT. That happened at 70 miles an hour. I will never buy another BMW because of the fact they are so flawed. I have a list of what was wrong about that BMW, but I won’t go into everything that list is too long.. but I will say one thing. When I hit that deer at 70 miles an hour right in the ribs broadside, that bike never moved. I just coasted to a stop in the dark with no lights left working.. $5500 damage, that was 2010 dollars… that’s when I quit riding at night.. I used to love to go out at 10 o’clock at night and ride till three or four in the morning by myself. I would have the whole road to myself no matter where I went. Especially when there was a full moon in the summer.. I would see deer but I thought they saw me and would avoid me.. most of my bikes were sport oriented. Yamaha RDs, Kawasaki triples, I especially like the 350 and 400 triples, I always upgraded the shocks and put low bars on those. I had three of the Honda CB 400 F bikes, I had the first year of the Kawasaki 903Z1, Honda CB 750 F withthe. com starwheels RZ 350, Yamaha 550 and 600 Seca, fj 1200, guzzi V11 sport- The most uncomfortable motorcycle in the history of the universe.. I couldn’t ride that machine for more than an hour at a time no matter what upgrades I made to the seat and bars and foot pegs.. especially to my knees which I never had trouble with till I bought that V 11 sport. You move around so much on the sport bikes, but something about that set up was just tough on the knees. I only had that bike for 5200 miles.. I put most of my miles on my first 1986 Venture. 138,000. I didn’t put a lot of miles on any one bike other than that one because I’ve always had three or four street bikes at the same time until I retired. Now I’m down to just two.. my current venture in the videos is my 108th motorcycle so far.That’s mostly because I can’t resist buying a bike and I’m interested in, then I ride it to find out if I like it. Anytime I buy a machine, it’s always for sale, at a slight profit.. Where do you live that you get to put that many miles on motorcycles over the decades? I mean is the grocery store 75 miles away. what tires do you get the best mileage out of, what do you do about a seat? ever been caught in a hailstorm? Ever had a tornado pass while you were riding? I had one cross the road race track during one of my road races. I didn’t see it, but it made the local papers…
@demezon6572
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides : jody, you're The Man
@davebarnessr.5805
2 жыл бұрын
If I ever own a bagger, it would probably be the Star Venture, I do all my own maintenance work too, while I do not have your professional background working on bikes, I am mechanical and try to keep maintenance costs down, especially since I have 2 bikes, I own the complete repair/ tear down manual for both my 2012 Fatboy and my 2002 VStar 1100, Both bought new-ten yrs apart, with the Star set up for more distance two up rides that we take out of state at times, passenger boards, bags luggage etc. while the Fatboy is just a selfish fettish I have always been consumed by since it’s inception in 1990.It was actually the barometer that brought me to The VSTAR yrs earlier when an HD Fatboy was just not affordable at the time. I’m in 20 and 10 yrs respectively. I’m always asked to compare them but they are not comparable beyond 2 wheels. Both Keepers., anyway Great Vlog, I’m always trying to broaden my perspective, your Vlog did just that , Thanks Sir.
@jeffstonecipher1594
2 жыл бұрын
To your comment @ 8:19 about vibrations on Harley's, I can tell you they have come along way in NVH isolation since the old Evo motors. I just rented a 22 Heritage classic with the 114 for 4 days in Arizona. I can tell you there is almost no bad vibrations coming out of that bike save for road feel and some good engine feedback -was a surprisingly very smooth bike otherwise. I own an 08 Road King classic 96ci with a full stage I, very smooth too actually except at idle -as those bike are due to the rubber motor mounts. Before the Road King though I rode an 08 Kawasaki Vulcan Nomad. Honestly that was also a really good bike -very good NVH isolation on that unit, and great floorboards and ergonomic positioning strait out of the box -similar to how you described your Venture. My Road king had to be modified quite a bit to get it personalized for comfort -though its perfectly comfortable now.
@jhackett9482
2 жыл бұрын
I have a heritage 114. It’ very refined compared to older Harleys. I also like bikes with no covers and unnecessary plastic parts. Never got the gold wing thing.
@colinbarrett7431
2 жыл бұрын
I own 2019 Goldwing DCT and 2009 Venture and like both bikes. Goldwing has 5,100 miles on it and is at dealership getting oil and filters changed. They can't duplicate issue where GPS keeps going back to home screen. Frustrating on a $20k bike. Venture is flawless. Road it thru Arches NP and Zion. My wife and I truly enjoyed ourselves. DCT is fun to ride and is quick. I think hp is just right for both bikes. Great video. Keep them coming.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
That’s surprising that a Honda has a glitch. Hondas are pretty much perfect. Goldwings are perfect,It’s just that it’s more time consuming for the mechanic to get at things.. as for gps. I used them every day in my company car, but I never turned them on until I was close to the area I was driving to. I hate hearing the GPS voices telling me which way to go for the first 90% of the ride. I just need to have exact details when I’m almost there.. I have three out of date Garmins.. two of them came on machines when I bought them used. my BMW K 1200 LT, and my 2002 Yamaha royal star venture…I ended up taking them off and putting them in my cupboard, they’re still in there. Don’t use them now that my phone has updated map programs for free. I actually prefer to use paper maps. When you have a big map, you can see where you are, and all the alternative routes, so when I’m just out for a ride with no real destination, I use the paper map to get a general feel for where I’m headed and all the different routes I can take.. like I said I’m surprised you’re having an issue with your Honda GPS. And the dealer can’t duplicate it. i’m not a gadget geek. But in my experience, most of the time, it’s operator problems..
@johnstarkesr3296
2 жыл бұрын
I had a beautiful gl 1500, didn't like it. I done the BMW thing (r1100rt), it was ok, but a low quality crafted commuter bike-had to remove all the plastic for almost everything. I like Yamaha, have a Kawasaki Voyager 1200 right now, I like it....and, you are correct, Japan makes the best motorcycles.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I really like the Kawasaki 1200 Voyager. I think that’s the one I like, I think they were last made in 1992?? four-cylinder, loaded, Turing machine. I found a really clean one of those that didn’t have all kinds of junk on it. I drove about 120 miles to test drive it.. I took it for a ride and fell in love with it by the time I got into fifth gear… I have a little rule I impose upon myself. I never never never do an impulse buy. I always go home and think about it, and sleep on it. If I still want it the next day, then I make an offer. The problem with the Kawasaki voyager was, …it sold that night while i was thinking about it… The one that got away..
@josephzanghi3036
3 ай бұрын
I owned a 1996 gold wing for 16 years, It was a great bike but the cost of maintenance was very high
@Jodyrides
3 ай бұрын
I think the 1500 gold wings or the most beautiful of all the gold wings including the new 2024s.. when I was shopping for a used Goldwing in 2018, I was actually shopping for the 1500 Goldwing. I wanted a wine berry color/cherry red one. They always look like 1 million bucks to me. But the 2002 that I ended up buying showed up on craigslist., with only 13 K miles on it for sale by the original owner. He just lost interest and wanted to buy a 4 x 4 quad for hunting. He had never had anything but the oil changes done to it. So I had my work cut out everything from fork, seals, fork, springs, fork, oil, final drive oil, rear, shocks, spring, tires, clutch and brake fluid, air filter., Spark plugs, cables, lubed, all pivots, greased, and I had to Mouse proof the airbox. When I opened up the air cleaner box, I could see that mice were living in there, that is very common… I actually put a video on KZitem of how I mouse proofed my air box. It’s on KZitem under my other screen name that I started making videos with. But I don’t use that name anymore. The title of the video is three words.” Goldwing made mouseproof”… That’s my yellow gold wing taken apart in that short video showing how to put metal quarter inch screening over the intake trumpets on the airbox.. when I was done, I thought that machine was perfect, except for the four-way flasher module, which was a problem for many many people, when you would push the button in front of your left knee, the you couldn’t turn the four ways off.. I ended up, driving home, almost 100 miles with my four ways on at night. I stopped by the side of the road, call of nature, and I put my four ways on, when I headed back home I couldn’t turn them off, so I had to ride all the way home with my four-way is flashing… when I started doing research online, it turns out that is a common problem with that particular item on the 1800s around that year. That thing ain’t cheap either that unit costs hundreds of dollars used on eBay… I think that module new is over $600, at least it was back in 2018.. other than that, I thought the machine handled very well, had exceptional brakes, it was eerily smooth, it shifted like butter even though the shifter was a bit sloppy, because when I bought the machine, it had aftermarket floorboards on it, which can be a big problem, because, it says, in the owners manual to never put floorboards on a Goldwing. If you have transmission problems on a Goldwing in a year that the manual says not to put floorboards on, they will not cover it under warranty because they told you in the manual not to put the floorboards On… After I put the new fork and shock spring on the bike, so very light on its feet. It rotated like a machine to Weighed half that much… I did find it a bit cramped, it felt like the dashboard was right there in my face, practically, and I couldn’t move back as much as I wanted to, but it really wasn’t a problem. I’m only 5‘11“ tall. But for someone that’s over 6 foot, that would be cramped… The bike was perfect. I really didn’t have any complaints, but the thought of working on it for something serious, like I had to pull the engine and split the cases, or if I had electrical issues with that mass of cables under the engine, cover, and under the seat and going through the right saddlebag to all the lighting in the back, mounted in the trunk, and in all the bodywork and in the saddlebags. There was nothing simple about it. That’s what I Was avoiding, major problems, that I didn’t want to have to sort out on such a complex machine. That’s the only reason I sold it, there was nothing wrong with that bike, it was perfect, as long as I didn’t use the four-way flashers.
@janerikeikeb6297
2 жыл бұрын
I've owned a '89 Venture 1300, and I loved that bike. The sound of that V4, and the feeling when you ride it. It was something special. This summer I bought a '06 GL 1800, since Goldwings always been my favorite. And I love riding it. But I could really like to test the new Star Venture TC.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
Gold wings are perfect. I had one.. they are the smoothest. they are in a category by themselves actually.. it’s actually not an apples to apples fair comparison to compare anything else to a goldwing.. I just didn’t like working on them. Everything is buried or hidden or covered up. I figured it out, but I didn’t enjoyed working on the Goldwing. The one I had, I bought it 16 years old with only 13 K miles on it from the original owner. It still had the original tires on it. Yellow..
@les5386
2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. I had a Gen 1 Venture and 2 Gen 2 Ventures. The Gen 2 is hands down my favorite bike. I've had Electra Glides - great bikes, but the Venture is more comfortable and I like the styling better. I wish I hadn't sold my 08 last summer. I'm looking forward to buying another one.
@yoso585
2 жыл бұрын
The only problem I had and why I sold was it was too top heavy up front for the type of riding I do. If I was to do long distance highway interstate riding, I would have accepted the weight no problem. In fact, would welcome it. Never a power problem on these bikes, just turn the throttle!
@paulmszyco970
2 жыл бұрын
awesome real world review !! i ride a 98 ultra classic, she is a thirsty girl . Gatto Honda had an 09 Venture I regret not buying it. Lets Go Pens !!
@DetVen
2 жыл бұрын
1:40 - I've heard this said as far back as 1979-80, when I was 12 y/o and had my little mini bike with a 6.5hp Tecumseh engine...my friend had Honda Trail 70 that was his older brother's, when he got a Yamaha DT125, but their father was an avid motorcycle rider and had a Goldwing...I recall being in their garage when a prospective buyer came over to look at the father's Goldwing he was selling and I remember the buyer saying almost those exact words, but it was 1979 and I'm certain he said "Japs" make the best motorcycles in the world and of course the father agreed. That always stuck in my mind, so when I was 18 y/o in the Army, just got to my permanent duty station at Fort Ord, California, I took a cab to the Yamaha dealership and bought a FZ750 brand new. All 7 of my motorcycles thru the years have all been Japanese and they all performed and ran great, never a problem with doing standard maintenance. I've had friends with BMWs and Ducatis and they did have trouble with their bikes.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
George thanks for your service. Friends of mine bought their brand new Hondas in Yokohama when they got leave. If they had been on a carrier, they could’ve brought cars back.. The old BMWs that got them they’re great reputation, I believe we’re pretty damn good. Do caddies in those days had problems with their bevel cam drive.. working part time selling motorcycles in the evenings for 17 years at several different shops. The last shop I worked in had a Yamaha FZR 750 - R… The “R”was more or less a street legal production racer. The engine had many different components to the street bike like lighter pistons, skinnier piston rings, very adjustable suspension. You could buy a brand new FZ 750 R for around $7000, but this machine this price was $14,000. It was a 1988 brand new, and it was not selling. The bike to have for production Road racing in those days was the Suzuki GSXR 750.. so the dealer I worked for was paying 1% per month interest on that machine for three years. I believe it was something like $120 a month. He lost his ass on that machine. But the ones that so quickly make up for it so it evens out.. A guy finally was interested in that machine because of how special it was just for street riding. I sold it to him for $8000. The thing that made up his mind though was, he was either going to buy this Yamaha or a Ducati.. The Ducati dealer almost had him convinced until he said “ i’ll even do the first valve adjustment service for only $3000”…
@robcreel4257
2 жыл бұрын
I test rode a bunch of bikes before I got the bike I have now. I like cruisers, so I test rode Harleys and Victory. Then I rode the Royal Star Tour Deluxe. Same bike as the Venture without the fairing. Hook, line, and sinker. Loved that bike. I managed to get a 2009 Royal Star. It had 3400 miles on it, now it has 25,000 on it. I had to replace the fuel pump last year. It took a couple weeks to get it but I finally got it. It did take me the better part of a weekend to remove everything just to get to the fuel pump and replace it and put it back together. But I did it all myself. I've had to replace the rear tire a couple times. I can swap it out in an afternoon.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
That was very low miles. I love finding machines with low miles like that
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
It is June 30, 2022. I just found out that Honda is discontinuing the Goldwing because of the EU emissions standards for the future in Europe, which are actually more stringent than the ones we have here in California. So the gold wing and 19 other motorcycles by the big four are going to be discontinued. they are saying that in Europe, air cooled new motorcycles will not pass that EU air quality regulation requirement either. That spells bad news for Harley Davidson. Unfortunately for Harley, they have moved some of their operation to Germany and Italy and India in Brazil, and I believe China. I thought Harley was one of those strictly born in the USA type companies. Which is fine, but I think this is going to really be a kick in the ball bearings of the Harley company because they have a very limited menu since they dropped the V rod…
@bigwu100
13 күн бұрын
If i were to buy another honda 6 cylinder i would go with the valkorie. None of the plastics to deal with. But no cruise control either. But that sweet 6 cylinder is just perfect for the expressway. Just set on 80 and forget about it. I used to ride my wing at 90 all day. No issues but it was ugly as sin.
@Jodyrides
13 күн бұрын
Gold wings are perfect. I said that in my video comparison. They are perfect. I just found it a little less exciting. a little boring.. maybe it was the color I didn’t like. Mine was banana yellow…
@TheClintmeister
2 жыл бұрын
I feel you on the BMW horrible problems! I got a kawasaki Concours 14 now!
@denvermullins9224
Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching, I also work on my vehicles as much as possible. I bought a used 2000 rsv mm edition. I'll be watching your videos for repair tips.
@altec19
2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking about getting a GL 1800 for the last several years but your video has changed my mind I think I’ll keep her !
@jeffreycash3662
2 жыл бұрын
I'd rethink that idea.
@altec19
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreycash3662 I didn’t know goldwings got such poor fuel economy that’s enough reason for me with fuel cost like they are now my venture averages Around 50 mpg’s
@robdavis2
5 ай бұрын
The thing about getting a gold wing is that you never work on it. Believe me, I own one. It will be the best bike you ever own, the most reliable bike that you ever own, the most comfortable bike that you ever own. And if you do take a wifey or girlfriend with you on trips, they will love it more than any other bike that you ever own. When you get 250,000 mi on it, sell it before you have to do anything to it,and get you another one. And I get 44 mpg on hwy.
@johnhampton5320
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input on your experiences of owning Yamaha Ventures vs Honda Goldwing vs BMW. I still own my 1983 Yamaha Venture. The only problems I've had, are I had to replace my alternator stator and had problems with the unified braking. I disconnected the anti-dive system on the front forks and my brakes work great. Like you, I do my own work and worked as a motorcycle mechanic for Honda and Yamaha shops during my college years.
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
John I was a builder/mechanic at a Yamaha shop part time in the late 70s and early 80s when the Venture V4 came out. I’m pretty sure the excess 1100 came out with a fairing and bags, dark dark blue and it was also called a venture.. yeah the slave cylinder on any motorcycle can fail. I used to carry the seal for the slave cylinder with me at all times. I probably still have it somewhere. But I never had any trouble with the brakes or the slave cylinders on any of my bikes because I always change the brake fluid every year and the clutch fluid.. Actually when I went to change the brake fluid and clutch fluid on my BMW K 1200 LT call me on my first experience with owning a BMW ever.. The Internet was full of warnings to never attempt to change the brake fluid myself because if I get air in the system, the brakes completely shut down in the machine needs to be taken to the dealer and have some thing in the computer reset, only at the BMW dealer. That sounds like something BMW would do, I know a BMW auto mechanic and he tells me that that is pretty much the way the cars are too.. so I was hesitant to change the brake fluid myself. I mean how hard can it be. Well those things have electric pumps on them on the BMW connected to the computer. And the reservoirs are so small, that you can suck one of those reservoirs for the brakes empty in probably less than three seconds because you have to have the key on. I bought the attachment to enlarge the master cylinders brake fluid capacity by about 10 times as much and I had no problem. But, when I called the dealer to ask if they would change my brake fluid. They said, three month wait, and it was $750 labor plus parts plus shop materials plus disposal fee.. I don’t like anybody touching my machines. In fact, I have never had anyone do any of the service on any of my 108 motorcycles so far. That’s counting dirt bikes, trails bikes, motocross bikes, quads, street bikes, race bikes.. as for the 1983 Venture. That was a 1200 cc. The only issues with that machine were, the water pump was upgraded in 1986, I don’t know why. I had a 1986 Venture. It was a 1300 cc engine displacement, it had The Vmax style diaphragm clutch upgrade in 1986, they changed the water pump, they changed the transmission oiling to increase the oil flow onto fifth gear and second gear. They made the saddlebags and trunk larger.. I liked the styling of the 1983 1984 1985 Venture’s better than the 86 through 92 ventures. I also have heard that the early model was actually the fastest one and the smoothest engine. But they did have a problematic second gear. That was common with some Yamaha‘s. All the triples had a bad second gear design also.. and so did the Yamaha FJ 1100.. there was a fix for the transmission at least there was a fix for the FG 1100, it required changing some spacing washers in the transmission for second gear. I did one of those transmission upgrades on a friends fj1100.. if you still have you’re 1983 Venture, you might want to consider changing the fork springs and the shock spring, and installing progressive suspension springs. It’s not a tough job, and you will never need to put air in your system again. I know as those systems age,, they have that on board compressor system, and they tend to develop air leaks.. you also have to change the packet of moisture absorbent for the onboard compressor to get the moisture out of the system.. I liked my 1986 Venture very much. It was all day comfortable. It was a bit warm if the temperature went over 85°. After I upgraded the suspension it handled pretty well. The only trouble I ever had with that machine was, the front brake light switch minded in the front brake perch on the handlebars failed, that made my cruise control stop working and I had no brake light, so I caught it that very day.. easy fix.. I put 138,000 miles on that machine. I picked up a spare engine they became available and I still have that spare engine for the 86 Yamaha venture.. A guy I knew through the shop I worked at had broken his cam chain on his 86 Venture. And the cost to replace the camshaft was more than it would cost to just buy an engine out of a salvage yard complete. So he bought an engine and I put the new engine in his venture. And I ended up with his engine with a broken rear cam chain. He told me he was abusing the bike when The cam chain failed.. I had to block off those vents inside your thighs on my Venture because the heat would leak through those vents on hot days. I would remove the covers I made to put on the inside to prevent the heat from coming out onto my legs when the weather got cool.. to get that battery warning light to go off on the dashboard of the Venture, if you install a 2000 ohm resistor in that line that goes to the battery probe detecting the fluid level, and run that wire with a 2000 0HM resistor to a 12 V source, you will get that light to go out on your dashboard and stop that warning system from telling you that there’s a problem with the battery fluid level.. I had my 86 Yamaha venture royale for16 years. I only sold it because it was getting old. I bought it used in 1988 with 6000 miles on it for $4100. I sold it 16 years later on eBay, for $4500.. I didn’t set the price, the bidding war did.. it still looked like a two year old motorcycle when I sold it. It never sat out overnight, and never sat in the sun, I always parked it on the center stand, I never pressure washed it, I never dropped it.. They are great bikes
@TOURMANBOB
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, tough choice. I have had both a 1985 Venture and a 2003 Gold Wing. Both are great bikes and I would buy either in a heartbeat. The Venture is a better fit if you are over 6 foot tall, and much easier to do maintenance on, but for me, overall, the Wing is the winner. But it's a really close race...
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
goldwings are just about perfect..the gl1800 6 series had a 30 yr run.1988 - 2017..plenty of time to work bugs out,although in the years you & i owned goldwings, they had that little glitch with the 4-way flasher unit, and that assembly alone cost to replace was not cheap..many videos on youtube with different home made fix’s can be found on youtube..my 4-way switch “stuck on” and i could not get the flashers to turn off one day..i rode home 3 hrs with the stuck on flashers flashing..when i finally got home, disassemble the left side of the fairing panel& got to that assembly, i was able to cycle the switch off..searching for the “fix” on youtube.. i was a bit surprized to learn that was a common problem.. --While typing this response, I just went on ebay to see how much those four-way flasher assemblies are selling for..$198.And the part is not OEM Honda they are selling on eBay, and that seller has already sold almost 300 of those units.. so that common problem is still common..So I’m gonna make a wild uneducated guess, and I’m going to guess that if you take your Honda Goldwing to the dealer to have that unit replaced. I’m guessing that’s gonna be around $600 to $800 parts/ labor/shop materials/ disposal fee/ tax.. not a difficult job for the technician. but it’s probably gonna be two or three hours labor at $125 an hour, which is industry standard now,Just have to remove that panel in front of your knee on the left next to your shock absorber preload adjustment panel.. i’m pretty sure the technicians have done it many times and they know exactly how to do it with their eyes closed..by the way on a Venture, the four-way switch is on the right handlebar switch housing .. I also checked for those on eBay. They only had used ones listed today, and many of them, the whole housing cost is anywhere from $12, to $54. that was the cost for the entire switch assembly that also has the Killswitch, all the buttons to control the cruise control, and the four-way flasher switch.. i’m guessing with inflation that the switch alone in that housing if you go to the dealer’s gonna be 50 bucks at the most, even though it looks like it should probably sell for under 20 bucks, after all, it is a simple on off switch.The venture flasher itself was separate standard universal plug-in flasher, $14, not an electronic module on the ventures, just old school proven stuff, probably interchangeable and available at any auto parts store, at least that’s what it looked like to me in the pictures.. that just is not something honda would take lightly..yet- that problem persisted year after year, many GW owners on youtube warn “ never” touch the 4-way flasher push button on goldwings.. now that I think about it, that is a BIG safety issue and maybe they should be recalled by the national highway safety dept..because you only use your four ways/emergency flashers, when you stop somewhere that is not really the safest place sometimes.. four-way flashers are a worldwide recognized signal that there may be an emergency situation you must be made aware of while approaching a vehicle with it’s four ways on.. I remember putting my four ways on in my SAAB sonnet one night back in the 1970s when I came upon three bodies on the road..11:pm..I was the first one on the scene. A carload of young kids, struck a tree--as the car was spinning the bodies were coming out the doors and the car rolled over them as it tumbled. Two of them were brothers. The Ironic part of that was, the driver was not injured.. I blocked both lanes with my car, put my four ways on, told my girlfriend, now my wife, to stay in the car. she was practically screaming..I jumped out of my car with a blanket, and I covered up the first body, I could see he was dead. The driver was babbling in shock” I only had eight beers, I only had eight beers, I only had eight beers..” he kept saying that over and over and over. I grabbed him and screamed at him -“snap out of it and shut up”..tell the police one of the other kids was driving”. ..When the police got there, 5 minutes later,the first thing he told them. That he was driving and he only had eight beers..it was a dark tree lined Road, and my four ways were the only lights approaching cars could see besides the thousands of shattered glass particles scattered across the road, twinkling like diamonds in the glaring headlights… I had already checked the three bodies, one of them was halfway under the car.. No pulse, no blood flowing from the open wounds.. I just got in my car, I turned off the four ways and took my emotionally shattered girlfriend home.. that was one of our first dates and when she went into the house her parents thought I had done something to her.. so I’d say four-way flashers are pretty important… I never touched my goldwing 4 way switch again after i finally got it unstuck at home.. that’s the only “problem “I had with my gold wing and it turned out to be not uncommon.. I can’t say that my first venture was totally without problems. My cruise control was not working one day. I kept riding without it. When I got into a small town, a driver behind me beeped his horn.. I pulled over, and he stopped beside me to tell me that my brake lights were not working. The lightbulb went off in my head, that’s why my cruise control is not working. It turned out that the little front brake light switch in the front brake handlebar perch .. the wires to that switch were melted at the switch.. the switch probably just stuck on internally, the spring or plastic mechanism failed..I think it cost me under $15 for a new switch at the time, and maybe 10 minutes to replace just using a number two Phillips screwdriver.. simple.. that’s the difference in a nutshell.
@TOURMANBOB
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides Wow, that's quite a story...can't add much to that. I will say the switches on the Wing are not very well made and last about 10 years maximum. It seems the grease Honda used internally hardens over time and once it starts, nothing can help permanently. I had to change both side switches some 10 years ago as well as the left side consule switch on my 2003 (which I still ride today). As I remember, they were about $125 each side back then and I can't remember what the consule switch replacement cost. Once I did that back 10 years ago, they have now started doing the same thing again in 2022. There appear to be two solutions. Rince the switches periodically with contact cleaner and exercise them repeatedly until the grease loosens up and the switch starts to work again. I have kept the problems at bay by periodically "exercising" the switches every time I go out for a ride...reverse, mute and 4 way flasher being the trouble makers. I have found if one sticks on, use a hair dryer and heat up the switch until the grease becomes fluid again, after which "exercise" the switch many times to ensure its still not sticking (at least for a little while anyway) That's about the only defect the Wing has which is pretty much nothing. Back when I was touring a lot (65 years on a bike), I was always afraid of coming out one morning in some small "blink stop" and getting stuck in reverse miles from anywhere. So it was worth the money. However, now that I'm 80, my trips are shorter and only day type trips as my wife is an invalid and I am her primary care provider.. So caution is the order of the day for me. My Venture in 360,000 kms of driving cost me two rear ends and four drive shafts, but the engine itself was like new when I sold it. A person can't go wrong with either bike; however, I had to buy a $1000 seat from Wingsoft to take the drivers seat back 3 inches to fit my legs. Every bike needs some customization to fit the driver but I don't hold that against Honda.
@billgraham4630
Жыл бұрын
I owned a 1981 goldwing loved it they were still motorcycles then not now!
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
You’re right Bill, they’re doing the same thing to cars and trucks.. traction control on my company Jeep one day, I was pulling out of the gas station, there was snow pushed to the sides of the road I was pulling out onto. Only an inch or two. There was a gasoline truck about 100 yards away, so I started to pull out of the gas station slowly. When traction control took over because of the snow under my back wheels, my Jeep stopped accelerating. It just shuttered and was moving about 1 ft./s. That gasoline truck was still coming at about 40 miles an hour.. my front end was on the road, my back wheels were still in the snow on the sides of the road. The truck driver gave me a blast with his horn, I nailed the gas, it didn’t do a thing. I was lucky that day because that truck was able to swerve over into the oncoming lane to go around me.. ever since that day, even when it rained I got into the habit of putting my seatbelt on and turning off the traction control first thing.. it’s a cure for a problem that doesn’t exist just like stability control. Placebos for idiots. I’d like to have been in the committee that decided to put ABS on motorcycles.. on my BMW K 1200 LT with ABS, I was going down a paved road that had gravel on it. When I touched the brakes, I had no breaks at all, nothing front or rear. That downhill section was about 200 or 300 feet long with a 90° turn at the bottom I was not going to make. Luckily I ran into the grass at the bottom of the hill and into a cyclone wire fence around an auto salvage yard to stop.. The only damage was a broken front fender.. I remember one of the magazines complaining about ABS on the Suzuki V Strom 1000. at that time I had a V Strom 1000non-ABS..The complaint was that it could not be turned off so you will actually have brakes when riding on fire roads or muddy dirt roads or slippery surfaces, I’ve ridden home from work several times in the snow on street bikes, once in 6 inches of snow. I made it, but if I had a BS, I would never have even got out of the parking lot at work.. my last Moto Guzzi, Norge, had a BS that I could turn the ABS brakes off at the push of a button, which I often did so I would have conventional brakes.. my BMW did not have that option to turn the ABS off. I suppose they will be installing automatic braking systems on motorcycles that brake all by themselves if you get too close to the car in front of you. Won’t that be fun if that happens while you’re in a corner not expecting the brakes to apply, or in the rain in a corner.. my son helped a friend put brakes on his car here in 2023. After they were done the car would not go over 45 miles an hour. I think it was a Buick..It seems that the car Hass to go to the dealer to have the computer reset after working on brakes, of course there is a fee for that, and you probably have to make an appointment.. and they probably won’t just push the button and you send you on your way because they would be liable if there was something not done correctly on the brake pad install.. no wonder Broncos and pick up trucks in beautiful shape from the 70s and 80s are going for over $100,000 on those television auctions these days. Cars you can understand and work on.. that’s the only reason I sold my perfect Goldwing. The gold wing definitely handles better than a Venture, it had better brakes for sure, it had a smoother engine, it definitely handled better once moving.. but motorcycles just like any other vehicle need to be maintained. Vehicles don’t wear out, they are neglected to death. And if they’re hard to work on, they’re gonna get a lot of neglect. That’s why I went back to a venture when one showed up for sale in such good condition and low miles.. besides, I like motorcycles that you can actually see the engine, which is the centerpiece of any motorcycle. After all they are called motor- cycles.. I don’t know what they’re gonna be called when they have electric motors. A buddy of mine had a Brahma electric motorcycle. That was the brand that has a manual clutch and manual six speed transmission. and that is a weird sensation because, you don’t have to pull the clutch in when you stop, and you don’t have to be in first gear to pull out, you can leave it in sixth gear all day and never touch the clutch lever or the shifter.. my friend took the advice of someone on a blog, and left the key on for a few days to completely drain the battery, in hopes that the battery would take more of a charge and give the motorcycle more range.. at least that’s what the blogger is suggested would happen…that was the worst advice anyone could give and it absolutely killed the lithium ion battery. When he called the factory they actually told him to get that vehicle out of his building because it is in danger of self igniting into flames.. my friend asked the factory engineer he had on the phone how much is a new battery then.. he was told that the battery pack has seven batteries in it, each battery is $6000, times 7 batteries= $42,000 for the battery he needed for his electric motorcycle. He explained that a brand new Brahma is only $21,000 that comes with a battery. The engineer said he doesn’t set the price. My friend ended up selling the bike on eBay for parts .. it looks like that might even be the future of motorcycles, someday. The only problem with someday is- Someday is a day you will never find on any calendar.. 1981 I was selling new motorcycles part-time January through May, those were the good old days before the Harley tariff destroyed the motorcycle market in the United States which still has not recovered from that tariff.. I was selling Yamaha‘s in 1981 but in 1982 I was selling Honda, suzuki, Kawasaki.. my best friend that I worked at my regular daylight job with actually bought a Honda CX 500 turbo from me, $4999.. i’m guessing that your Honda was the interstate that came with full fairing bags and trunk.. there were different options packages on Honda Goldwing‘s then. They didn’t come with the radio in the intercom and CB right out of the crate unless you ordered one of the loaded models.. 1983 is when Yamaha introduced the Venture. That also had an options package, you could buy it without a radio system. But in 86, all the options were standard pretty much.. Those gold wings were bulletproof. Occasionally, owners would install too many Christmas tree lights and blow the alternator or voltage regulator. Very high mileage ones had an issue with wearing the splines on the driveshaft if they didn’t have them greased every couple years.. that was around the time when tubeless tires and water cooling and fuel injection and electronic ignition and color matched fairing bags and trunk, and turbo chargers, and in-line fours, V4’s, in-line six cylinder, triples, upgraded suspensions with single sided swing arms, even engines that ran on the same oil as the transmission had just shown up in the late 70s with Suzuki which then ended up in all Japanese motorcycles. That The only bad design to come out in those days was the 16 inch front wheel on sport bikes.. but that only lasted for a couple years till they got it figured out..that was the golden age of development. When I sold Hondas in 1982. We gave out decks of cards to customers. I have a few of them still today. The reason Honda was giving out decks of cards was, they actually had 52 different models .. A different model on each card..
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
update March 15, 2023 I just watched a video on KZitem about the Goldwing with the automatic or semi automatic transmission. The owner had a clutch failure on his 2020 Goldwing. So he took it to the dealer, I don’t know the specifics but somehow the machine got totaled while in the dealers custody. So the owner ended up buying a Nother brand new Goldwing with that goldwing with the semi automatic or whatever it is transmission. The clutch on that machine also failed. The shocking news is, Honda refuses to Cover the cost of repairs and parts under warranty. Honda claims that the clutch, tires, bulbs, things like that are consumable items, not subject to coverage under warranty.. they repaired the clutch failure and his first Goldwing that was in the shop and got totaled while in the custody of the maintenance department as a goodwill public relations gesture.. that was the answer Honda corporate gave the owner when he asked them why did you cover the first clutch failure and not the second.. according to the owner of the two gold wins with clutch failure, he was doing slow parking lot driving maneuvers which caused the clutch to slip constantly at slow speeds, that is what caused the clutch to burn out both times..
@qwiklok
Жыл бұрын
Completely restored and repainted my 88/90 hybrid maroon/red Roysle. Stunning, gorgeous beautiful machine. classic mint. insane stopping power, comfy, wonderful handling, custom LED lighting lights the hjgheay like a footballfield, all aftermarket options in its day. would never sell it. issues wind buffetting but i think a windshield vent is a solution, valve train engine noise seems a lot, not whisper quiet in this regard, naybe needs fine valve tuning, carb synchronization is tricky, taking off saddlebag covers, , where do you put them, they are not flip outs. CB radio is never used, nor tape deck. But outside of this, a clasic, good looking, sporty, machine.
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
The Second generation, as far as I can figure, is 86 through 91 or 92. That’s when the engines became 1300 cc. 83, 84,85 had a 1200 cc engine. with the 86 models on, they had upgraded water pump, upgraded second gear and oiling forfourth or fifth gear, the top load saddlebags, which are much roomier and easier to load over those clamshell bags.. I have heard that the 1200 engine is smoother and more powerful. I never rode one of those .. but I can tell you that the 83 through 91 ventures were rocket ships compared to the royal star venture‘s. They had much bigger carburetors. And after all, an internal combustion engine is just an air pump. And if you can give it more air, it stands to reason that it can make more power… I was working in the shops in those days. Yamaha had a problem with second gear, failures on many different bikes. The FJ 1100, the Yamaha XS 750 and 850 triples, even the 1200 cc ventures… for that reason, I have always always babied second gear. I do that by not winding first gear up past 3000 or 4000 RPMs, and then slamming into second. If I make sure that I shift quickly to get the dog completely engaged. I also never never rest my foot on the shifter, and I completely remove my foot from the shift lever after every shift.. it’s not just Yamaha that had second gear failures. Second gear is the most susceptible gear to failing I’m just about any motorcycle with a sequential transmission.. Second your failures were not comment back when bikes didn’t make a lot of power, and they didn’t have a lot of weight.. if you watch any of my videos, you will notice that I short shift quickly into second gear. If I want to hot rod along, I don’t do that, until after I am in second gear, then I will wind the tach up starting in second year, not First. There’s too much mass, too much torque, those transmission shafts are spinning too fast to slam them into second gear, and make them stop dead with all of that inertia and torque behind it… carburetor synchronization: every multicarbureted or multi fuel, injected engine, must be approached the same way. After you’ve adjusted the valve clearance is the best time to sync your carbs. Because if you change your valve clearances, you change when the valves open which changes your carb sink. you have to look at a set of carburetors this way, or you will go nuts trying to synchronize the carburetors you have to realize that you have four carburetors, but there are two sets of carburetors at the same time. The two carburetors for the front cylinders, and then the two carburetors for the back cylinders.. you have to do it this way with your vacuum gauges, attached, you synchronize the front two carburetors together. Then forget about them. then you synchronize the two back carburetors together. There are screws on the linkage between the two sets of carburetors/bell cranks.. Bell cranks are so much better than individual cables. You can never get motorcycles with four separate cables going to four different carburetors synchronized perfectly. It can’t be done. The original 1979 Honda, CB 750 with sand cast cases. I could never get those perfect. I would sit there with a fan blowing on the engine, adjusting those cables, then I would blip the throttle, one time, and the gauges would all be all over the place again. so you have adjusted the two front carburetors and you have them both very close. And then you did the two back carburetors by adjusting the Bell crank linkage between the two front and the two rear carburetors.. don’t touch those adjustments again you are done with the front two and the back to carburetors at that point.. there is a third adjustment point in the center of the linkage between the two sets of carburetors. That is the final adjustment point. You cannot adjust that one first you will never get it set correctly. That’s the last thing you touch. You synchronize The front pair of carburetors, to the rear pair of carburetors at that Center, Union of the bell crank linkage. Then you’re done. it’s the same with an in-line for bank of carburetors. You adjust the two carbs on the right linkage first. The screw between the two right carburetors. Then you do the bell crank adjustment linkage adjustment on the two lift carburetors. It’s between the two carburetors. The final adjustment is at the center of the two pairs of carburetors. You are balancing the two right carburetors to the two left carburetors at the center point on that bell crank linkage. It should take you two or three minutes once you realize the sequence of adjustments… sorry for oversimplifying are going on and on about how to do that. You should try it on a cbx six cylinder. You need six vacuum gauges, but it can be done with just three gauges, you synchronize the three right side, carburetors, then you synchronize the three left side carburetors, then was just two gauges. One hooked up to the left Bank one hooked up to the right bank, then you adjust the center adjustment on the bell crank linkage… I use mercury gauge is called carb sticks.. The next time you see a walk behind, push, lawnmower, sitting out for the trash, get the gas tank off of it. That way, you can remove your fuel tank to get at the carburetors , and you can supply fuel for the carb sync with a small quart size fuel tank.. while you’re at it, throw in a new set of NGK spark plugs. Don’t buy them on eBay, they will probably be counterfeit spark plugs. Buy them at your dealer or you can get them at advance auto parts. They stock them. Don’t forget to blow the dirt away from the base of the spark plug before you take it out of each cylinder to keep that dirt out of there… while you’re at advance, auto getting spark plugs, get a tube of silicone, grease, clean and coat, your spark, plug wires from the coil, all the way down to the boot to waterproof it, and help preserve it. Those spark plug wires are in a very hostile hot environment. They’re constantly getting baked. while you’re at the carburetors, pull out on the choke lever and put white lithium grease on those four brass rods, then open up the enriching circuit when you pull the choke lever. That’s not actually a choke.. that is what is known as an enriching circuit. Those four rods that come up out of the float bowl, merely open up another passage for gasoline to be sucked into the carburetor for start up… I like to have minimum throttle cable play at the twist grip.. just so it’s snapshot when you let go is the only thing I worry about. A sloppy throttle cable makes for sloppy downshifts… Ask for your transmission. There is no place on any motorcycle that is tougher on oil van the transmission. Once you feel that it is more difficult to shift, or it’s tougher to find neutral. That’s the first signs that your oil is worn out. Your shift drum is having trouble rotating, your shift forks are not sliding on the drum like they used to if the oil is old and worn and here’s the Key point, the oil is sheared.. The molecules in the oil have been pulverized by the gears meshing under power.. motorcycle oil has higher levels of zinc and phosphorus, which gives the oil a high film strength to resist years shearing through the oil to make metal to metal contact. Car oil does not have the increased levels of zinc and phosphorus. You must use motorcycle or oil made for motorcycles. I use just whatever is on sale by the gallon on eBay from Honda, Yamaha, suzuki, Kawasaki. I don’t insist on full synthetic oil. If it’s good enough for those guys, it’s good enough for me.
@qwiklok
Жыл бұрын
@jodyfresnack4758 Thanks for the information. I could not find the oil I wanted, so I looked into the manual, and it said 10w40. so I used pennzoil platinum Euro full synthetic, Same as for my 03VW Passat. excellent specs. Shifting is lighting fast, and the engine runs well. But I was wondering about the gears you mentioned. When I go to Winnipeg next week, maybe get some Yamalube and replace it for a quiet valve train noise. naybe missing some adjustments somewhere. 2bd gear is never a problem on the 90 motor I wonder if a valve shim kit is available anywhere. I changed fork oil to ATF, and wow, what an improvenent. Night and day better.. Still a bit of stiction and looking into better no friction seals, but handling is excellent otherwise.
@mikelavelle5019
2 жыл бұрын
It took me about 5 hours for air filter on my 2003 GL1800... But I also put in a ECM. I just bought the car tire and front tire but have not done it yet.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah mike. Goldwings are perfect. But they’re Tough to work on.. five or six hours labor charge to buy a Honda dealership to change the air filter I thought was ridiculous until I did the job myself. And to tell you the truth, charging the customer forfive or six hours labor is fair. I don’t work for nothing, and I don’t expect them to work for nothing.. funny thing. I always found it easier to work on someone else’s bike than my own bikes.. it took me over six hours to change the air cleaner the first time I ever tried it on my Goldwing, but now that I’ve done it. I could probably do it in about five hours,, especially now that I know to keep all of those screws in order that must be removed when removing the large engine cover that looks like a gas tank I hope you mouse proofed your air cleaner intake trumpets.. I have a video under my other screen name from my old phone showing how to mouse proof the trumpets. The title of the video is three words Goldwing made mouseproof that’s my yellow gold wing that I show the mouse bedding I found in the original air cleaner of that motorcycle that was in that machine since new 16 years earlier.. my Goldwing was a 2002. I bought it from the original owner with 13 K miles on it in 2018. It still had the original tires on it too.. I suppose it was one of those impulse buys.
@benjaminharriel6965
11 ай бұрын
I totally agree. I have a 2008 Goldwing. This is my 5th one. Absolutely enjoy riding it but maintenance is a bear! Booooo! The HD I had and the Vulcan much easier to maintain. Thanks so much for sharing.😊
@Jodyrides
11 ай бұрын
you are the first goldwing rider to agree with me about how difficult the gold wings are to work on. They are better than the Venture’s. They are smoother, more powerful, I think the brakes are more powerful, they handle better. They are more refined, that they are a bear to work on. That is the only reason I pulled the plug on owning my perfect Goldwing. Anxiety about having a problem with it. Just like Jay Leno, and the reason he does not own any Ferraris at all. I put a video on KZitem here last month. It’s the only one I have of riding my GL 1800. It was then that I got my first GoPro camera that my kids bought me. I might add the camera to my helmet and turned it on. And that was the video that I have on KZitem now of my yellow 2002, GL 1800 .. I spotted it one day sitting in a driveway for sale in my travels. I had just sold my BMW K 1200 LT, because I experienced what really happens with a motorcycle that has ABS brakes.--- Nothing. You have no brakes at all once that ABS takes over. my last Moto Guzzi had ABS brakes, the difference was, you can push a button to turn the ABS off for those times when you are on mud, gravel, wet grass, snow, which I have had to ride home from work several times in surprise, snowstorms, once in 6 inches of snow. I made it home, lots of wheelspin, but, I would not have made it out of the parking lot at work If my machine had ABS brakes.. Anyway, that’s why I bought a 16-year-old Goldwing with only 13 K miles on it that had never had any major maintenance done to it. Because it did not have ABS brakes.
@echoglen8649
3 ай бұрын
I'm looking at a Royal Star with 75,000 miles on it, very nice shape. I'm hoping it has a lot of life left in it.
@Jodyrides
3 ай бұрын
motorcycles, cars, houses, don’t wear out, they are neglected to death. Check the service records, smell the oil, stick your nose down there, where you put the oil in the engine and smell it. If it smells like gasoline, pass on that one, take the bike for a ride, at least an hour. Get the bike in second gear, leave it in 2nd.. hit the gas and let off Excelerator and let off completely. You are checking to see if it jumps out of gear. Second gear is the gear that is going to fail first on most motorcycles. And if it jumps out of gear when you do that, pass on that bike.. these bikes, do not idle smoothly until they are warmed up. They actually have heaters on each carburetor. Electric heaters.. Make sure you get the owners manual because it will show you things like, it has a 6 gallon gas tank, it shows you the three locations for fuses in the owners manual. Make sure all of the lights work, including all the dashboard lights. 75,000 miles sounds like a lot of miles to everybody. You have to keep in mind that if you keep that bike for 20 or 30,000 miles, it’s going to have over 100,000 miles on it which may make it hard to sell. Look closely at all the fasteners bolts and screws on the engine to see if it looks like it had been apart.. look for case ceiling to be oozing out around the head/cylinder joint and where the cylinders meet the engine cases. Check the title to see if it has a reconstructed or salvaged title. If the bike has been painted, it has probably been crashed, make sure one key operates every lock on that bike. if you have any questions, I might know the answer. Good luck, let me know if you buy it. These machines are not as smooth as a Goldwing, but you can get at every major component on this machine without removing cubic yards of plastic. That’s what I like about them. They are so serviceable.
@echoglen8649
3 ай бұрын
@@Jodyrides, thank you very much for that!
@westho7314
2 жыл бұрын
$9 & change a gallon out here in Death Valley, havent seen $4 a gallon since Y2K, price of riding in paradise i guess. i loved my '78/9 goldwing, was still a standard bike back then, got 300k miles out of it. 999cc and still only got 40mpg on the best day.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
Nine dollars a gallon for gasoline? Is death Valley in California? i dont know, i am in another country - pennsylvania..
@westho7314
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides Sure is
@riding2nowhere
Жыл бұрын
I got a 2004 Yamaha Royal Star Venture 1300 best bike ever. Better than HD which I owned one time. Yamaha!!
@sterileeasteregg
2 жыл бұрын
Got a 99 garage kept royal star for 2000$ had 1750 miles on original owner. I have been riding close to 20 years mainly vintage bikes and yamaha has never let me down but the royal star is a whole different bike I mainly ride 2up with my wife and it's so comfortable and just eats up the miles find a low milage garage kept golding for 2000$ without issues it's gonna be difficult at best
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
let’s look at it this way as far as maintenance if you do not do your own work. To simplify things, let’s just look at the cost of labor just to change the air cleaner on a Goldwing GL 1800.. no matter how quickly the mechanic at your Honda dealer can change the air cleaner, the cost to the customer is determined by the flat rate manual. If the mechanic can do the job in three hours, the dealer is still going to charge the customer five hours labor. at $125 an hour labor rate, that is $625 -just the labor for changing the air filter.. I have done the job myself according to the Honda service manual, and it is not a fast job. It is time consuming. actually I feel the $625 is not unfair. I don’t work for nothing, I don’t expect anyone else to.. pretty much everyone knows that gold wings have the reputation of lasting for more than 200,000 or even 300,000 miles with basic maintenance.. OK so let’s say you have your local friendly dealer change just your air filter every 25,000 miles on your Goldwing for the first 200,000 miles. That is just changing the air filter. That is eight air filter changes.. The cost of labor alone to change the air filter on a GL 1800 / 8 times in 200,000 miles is $5000. that’s a lot of money -to me anyway -just for changing eight air filters. let’s look at the money this way.. when my wife and I go out to dinner, nothing special, let’s say to Applebee’s. It’s generally around $45 including drinks and tip.. $5000 would pay for my wife and I to go out to dinner at Applebees more than 100 times. that’s dinner at Applebee’s once a week for two years.. I install and balance my own motorcycle tires. $5000 would pay for more than 16 sets of tires for my Venture.. $5000 is more than I paid for my Venture used. It’s more than I paid for my 2019 Kawasaki Z 400 . $5000 is probably more than I have spent on all the shoes I have bought in my lifetime.. even with gasoline at five dollars a gallon, $5000 worth of gasoline would finance me to cover 240,000 miles on my Venture.. you get the picture. The irony is, that does not include the price of the air filters, the tax, the disposal fee, or shop materials.. sounds ridiculous doesn’t it? it is.!!!! in the video I made a mistake ( not my 1st) - I said that it wasn’t tough changing the fork springs in the Venture. I meant to say in the Goldwing. I have not as of this video changed the front fork springs in the venture.. I may never have to because, Yamaha uses air suspension to assist the springs… I also say again that the gold wings are perfect. They handle better, they have better brakes, they have the smoothest engine, but they just dont turn me on.. I tried to make that marriage work for two years with the gold wing. I wanted it to work. but I like the roominess of the Venture more. You can stretch your legs, you can get your feet closer together because the engine is narrow. I like floorboards, and the floorboards are not in the way when you go to put your feet down, the way they were on my gold wing when I bought it it had aftermarket floorboards on it that were in the way because the engine size on the GW takes up space for floorboards.. When I bought my 2002 Goldwing from the original owner. It still had the original tires on it and the original air filter (with mice in it. ) I actually have a video under one of my other screen names. The name of the video is, “Goldwing made mouseproof”..that’s my yellow gold wing in that short video showing mice bedding inside the air cleaner to my GL 1800 Goldwing and just how much stuff I had to remove to get access to the air cleaner….. if you do your own work on your gold wing, it makes you appreciate just how difficult it must have been to design by the Honda engineers to get all that stuff into one package. They are amazing. they are absolutely the most compact complicated vehicle I have ever owned or worked on.. I can do the work, I just don’t want to..
@svanimir666
2 жыл бұрын
one of my dream bikes..venture..its beautiful.i have wildstar 1600 now but i dream about venture
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I think Yamaha nailed the styling on your machine and the stratoliner
@1satisfiedmind
Жыл бұрын
A friend traded his high mile bulletproof, Royal Star for an HD, after a month he regretted that move. I've always liked late '90's Royal Stars, and Valkyries (not Gold Wings)
@MrZipperhead16
2 жыл бұрын
Bought a '97 GL 1500 with 43K on it. K&N air filter for $73. Took 45 minuets to change the air filter INCLUDING the 15 minuet KZitem showing how to do it AND having to take the radio back off to write the date and mileage on the air box top. Yes Gold Wings can be a pain in the ass to work on and expensive IF they break but if you do the maintenance on time, they don't. You do you.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I like the looks of the GL 1500 better than the GL 1800. when I first decided that I wanted to try a Goldwing, I was actually hoping to find a GL 1500, but that GL 1800 I ended up buying only had 13,000 miles on it when I found it. Still have the original tires on it, and unfortunately the original air cleaner even though the motorcycle was 16 yrs old when i found it.. The only thing new on it when I found it for sale was the battery..Obviously , if you could change your air filter in under an hour on your 1500 Goldwing,Honda could have designed access to the air filter on the 1800 to be more user-friendly..
@MrZipperhead16
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides I don't think Honda does ANYTHING easy in the service department. On the positive side, they run forever.
@roberthillman1
2 жыл бұрын
What a great looking bike.
@boenq1908
Жыл бұрын
I am happy you like the venture. I almost bought it but only one thing , it uses the drive belt. Not sure about it when it is older. It is like a timing belt. I ended up getting the 2023 yamaha FJR1300ES. Drive shaft and practice maintenance. Your comment is great and very fair. I am with you on that.
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
just got around to reading, replies, and comments on the Venture/Goldwing comparison I made. you mentioned you don’t trust the belt final drive on the Venture? Venture I’m talking about was the royal star venture with shaft drive. They made that Venture from around 2000 until 2013. It has a V4 engine. The new ventures are called star ventures, and they have an air cold V twin with belt drive. I should have clarified that my video was about the V 4 Venture, with that long time i n production engine, that V4 that they used in the ventures, and the Vmax, and they still use it in the Vmax here in 2023 I agree with you about belt drive. Chain and belt final drives are equal in efficiency. They are both approximately 98% efficient. The best drive shaft systems lose about 15 to 18% of the power between the engine and the ground due to the power, making a right hand turn at the final drive gears. If they make the power change direction 90° twice, as in an in-line 4 with shaft drive, the efficiency drops even further. Not to Forget the burden that massive final drive places on the rear suspension. You will just never ever see a MotoGP bike or a motocross bike with shaft drive that is competitive against machines with chain drive… belts have an Achilles’ heel. They are vulnerable to rocks/stones/pebbles. My riding buddy that I have been riding with just sold his FJR. He went down n weight 11:50 to a Kawasaki Z650. I can’t even get him to try riding my Venture, yet he puts up with sore butt, sore wrists, stiff, shoulders, stiff neck..
@boenq1908
Жыл бұрын
@jodyfresnack4758 that's great explanation. You know more than me on that particular model. FJR is great bike ,the only problem I see is, the manufacturer should consider to add a reverse gear like goldwing, and yamaha venture, it is heavy to push back with 2 feet, it's weight is 650 to 700 lbs depending on the accessories added. Any shaft drive they should make reverse as standard feature. Thanks for your reply
@jerseycowboy1
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful bike. Nice to see a real man's garage haha.
@cashstore1
Ай бұрын
I have used car tires on my Venture for the last 60 thousand miles. I get 20k per tire. Have not had any problems other than you need to add a bunch more air pressure to set the bead.
@Jodyrides
Ай бұрын
I have seen lots of people that go to the dark side. I’m surprised it fits in that skinny swingarm space.. on the Venture in the Vmax, the rear wheel is offset 10 MM to give the tire some room. The rear wheel does not track directly behind the front wheel.. does the car tire fit on the Venture wheel??
@bigwu100
13 күн бұрын
That yamaha is a good looking bike. At this time I'm getting rid of my two bike; Harley electraglide. Honda fury. The thrill is gone.
@Jodyrides
13 күн бұрын
that’s a sign when the thrill is gone, The cure, for that is a new to you bike, it doesn’t have to be brand new,,
@FaithisKey792
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2009. I’ve had it for 3 years now. It has 41k on it. I’m selling it but something tells me I’m making a mistake if I do. I want an Aprilia rs660. But this bike is so confortable. I love the saddle bag storage on the venture. I think is truly well equipped.
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
that’s why you have to have a minimum of two motorcycles. And they have to be completely different types of motorcycles because, if I were to go to Daytona from Pittsburgh, on my Kawasaki, Z 400. After about 500 miles, I would regret leaving my Venture at home all the way to Florida. do you like Aprilia. I like Moto Guzzi‘s. I’ve had four of them. I’ve had one or the other from 1979 until 2021, I continuously owned one of my four motor Guzzi through that time frame along with dozens of other motorcycles. They never let me down, they never cost me more than the cost of tires, brakes oil filters, air filters, a couple cables., never broke down on me, never left me stuck. They handle superbly with nice predictable, slow steering. They feel like they could be hit by a meteor while in the midcorner and it would not knock them off course… there is no way that my last Guzzi, a 1200 GT Norge, is faster than any jab 600. But Japanese motorcycles don’t have a soul. They don’t have a personality. Moto Guzzi‘s have a soul. The Aprilia’s are closer to the Japanese motorcycle. than Moto Guzzi’s are… actually, Aprilia owns Moto Guzzi. They bought them in the mid-2000s, and the first product of that new company was my Moto Guzzi Norge. Which the first thing I noticed was, it had a Japanese perfectly shifting transmission instead of the clunky agricultural shifting transmission of old… My Norge told you how far you’ve gone how far you have to go before you need gas, it had a Clock, thermometer, in fact, a snowflake on the dashboard display would start flashing when the temperature bowl dropped below 35° warning you that elevated surfaces could be frozen.. It had three temperature, heated grips, and electric windshield, single-sided, swingarm, fuel injection, to spark plugs per cylinder, the Bores of the cylinders on Moto Guzzi‘s were chromed back in the 70s because chrome wears like diamonds. It just doesn’t wear route. Then they switched to nicasil which is nickel silicone, carbide, blast it on to the aluminum, and that was the cylinder liner material. They don’t wear out. The crankshafts are designed on the drawing board to last 1,000,000 miles… They are quirky, they are not Japanese perfect, the fender’s don’t always line up perfectly where the bodywork, occasionally there will be a fly wing inbedded in the paint. The only reason I sold my last one was because it seems to have been made for someone under 5 foot eight. It was just cramped after about two or three hours. I thought like a baseball catcher probably feels after a doubleheader.. I never got into the Aprilia, or the MV, Augusta, which is a helicopter manufacturer in Italy also.. they are all beautiful machines, but they sure ain’t Japanese perfect or Japanese fast. And when you go to sell them, you are lucky to get $.50 on the dollar. You never get even with the Kelley blue book value says. It took me almost 3 years to sell my Norge. Most people never even heard of a Moto Guzzi… i’m going through the same thing you are now, the grass is always Greener, until you get there.. you are right, the ventures are so comfortable, and they’re so simple to work on, and they’re so reliable, and they’re so easy to resell, and parts availability is fantastic thanks to eBay. They have been using that engine since 1983, and they are still using it in the Vmax. they’re not great around town, no big bike is, and they’re not great on back roads especially if the back roads are not smooth. No big bike is. That’s why you have to have two motorcycles minimum. One for the highway and long distance, comfort, and the other bike for all the other conditions, like in town, or on hot days when you don’t wanna be behind a fairing, or if you feel like going out on the back roads, and spraining The speed limit with your buddies.. I am always on the lookout for the next bike. Near me is a Kawasaki Vulcan voyager with 15 K miles on it right now. A red 2010. I have to go look at it yet. But I am reading after doing research on KZitem that there is a heat issue with those motorcycles. So bad, that they actually tried to fix the problem by putting an electric fan behind the rear cylinder, pulling the hot air away from the rider… i’m going to go look at it next week, if I can steal it I have to buy it. Then I’ll ride that one and Venture until I decide which one to keep… i’m open to many bikes, I won’t buy an English bike, I’ll never buy another BMW. I don’t like Harleys, and gold wings are way way too difficult to work on to do basic maintenance compared to just about any other motorcycle… what I would really like to have would be a Moto Guzzi 1100 breva . Or a California model. They are not Japanese fast or Japanese perfect but they are as reliable as a sledgehammer., and they have the best sounding exhaust. Listen to my Moto Guzzi Norge in the three videos I have on KZitem. They sound fantastic. that is stock exhaust on my Guzzi Norge in those videos.. you can’t appreciate the sound just listening on a phone unless you have headphones. I watch it on my television with my stereo speakers doing the audio… I rode a buddies Aprilia a couple years ago. It had a very light fly wheel, I kept stalling it because of that… he also has a 250 2 stroke Aprilia, I think it might be a replica. Water cooled... I never rode that, but I did resurrect it for him when it got caught in a flood at his shop. The whole bike was submerged up to the mirrors in freshwater. I basically just pulled the spark plugs out, changed all the fluids, and it started right up spraying water out the expansion chambers for about two or three minutes.. I do know what you’re going through. I go through it constantly. Men are hunters, Forager’s by nature. Constantly searching for the next something…
@FaithisKey792
Жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides Thank you for the feedback. I have been riding for about 18 years now, I started with a Honda cbr 250. From there I went into a Gxsr 600RR, which I enjoy very much for about 3 years. I had a close call on it, a school bus full of kids took me off the road, the driver didn’t see me coming, his left turn had a bling spot, and I guess he did not see the small profile of my bike approaching. I stopped riding for 1 year after that, I got really scared. I sold the bike just thinking what if. A year later, I said to myself, ” I love riding too much, and that others drivers actions are out of my control. I might have been going probably 20 over the speed limit when the bus took me of the road, I had to assume the responsibility as well. That’s where the KTM 390 got in the picture, the reviews where good st the time and it was a newer type of 300cc on the market. I had it for over 2 years. I sold that because it was missing the power, and on the highway I felt like a kite next to trucks. Then I found the bike of my dreams then I thought, a 2015 Gxsr 750RR, which I had for over 7 years. My wife in the last days of the Gxsr 750, on one occasion thought it would be nice to get a coffee, she requested we go on Gxsr. Once there at the parking lot of the Tim Hortons, I asked her, “how was the ride” she replied, “very nice.” That second I said,” I have to get a cruiser motorcycle, she has no idea what confort is on a bike”. She deserves to go out on dinner outings with me in stile, on two wheels 🏍️ 😆. That’s were the Suzuki M109R got into my life. I had that one for 2 years, I wanted the cruiser scenario without lacking the power of the 750 Gxsr . I wanted something in the middle, I was not sure if I was mentally ready to make the transition from sports to touring. The previous owner of the M109r, had installed a lowering kit to the bike. Me being 5’10” tall, and being so used to leaning the bike over it fell very unsafe, I could not lean the bike (m109r)4” without already scraping the foot pegs on the road. On this bike I had a little insistent where, I lost the rear in a turn and by God grace, I ended up sliding for about 40‘ on wet grass, and on a little ditch next to the road. It took me 3 months after my crash to sell that bike, thank God there was no major damage to it. It was only the pain in my chest from the impact, when I bounced off the bike during the lowside and my chest went into the handlebars before I went airborne. My Moto GP race jacket and gear did it’s job. It took the brunt of the crash. I have always felt fully protected on my bikes, I’m dressed to go to a racetrack every time I ride. Back to the present now, my 2009 Yamaha Royal star venture has been in my life for about 3 years. For my wife as a passenger, its confort in two wheels, the saddle bag storage and sound system was amazing at first, since I’ve never had those luxuries on a bike before. I cannot say much about this bike other then people giving me great compliments and fishermen’s thinking, “is this guy for real”. The day I showed up to a fishing spot by my house on the cruiser, with my fishing rods and a large tackle box in the trunk compartment of the bike 😀😀. For the left saddle bag, I have bought a cooler bag that fits perfectly, so that I can maintain my catch 🐠 , on long rides there’s no stress on my back, knees, wrist. It’s the most comfortable I’ve ever been on two wheels. I just finished doing the carburetor kit swap on the bike, this was new territory for me, I’ve never had to deal with a fuel leak from a vent hose in any of my other bikes. They have been all fuel injected, I like to do every repair myself. This one took patience, Faith in God saying you got this, just follow through, once I was waiting on the sideline for 2 months to get parts. The dealer wanted $800 canadian to clean the carbs 🫢😜. I bought the bike from a dealer for 13k taxes in, canadian 2.5 years ago. I’m selling it for $9500. Just to buy an Aprilia, I really like the 2017 Tuono 1100rr used. Now I’m thinking the 2023 Aprilia rs660 new. It’s the same price. When I started looking for a cruiser, the dealer was selling a 2019 gold wing for about $36000, frankly the Yamaha Royal star it’s a better more comfortable bike. It’s well equipped. The Gold-wings to me seem very robotic, no character whatsoever. Even though I have never been on a Goldwing before. They look and feel like an electric car. But For the sake of looking for the next bike, I think I’ll be shooting myself on the foot, if I sell the 09 Yamaha Royal venture. I just want a bike to get the old adrenaline going. That’s is where your advise takes hold of me, having a second bike would be ideal. I don’t know……..we have many bills to deal with for the 🚙’s, 🚤, 🏠, and utilities. I prayed to God once like this, on board the GXSr 750RR on the highway one day, on my way to work. God, you know I have 3 kids and a beautiful wife. Please help me sell this bike. It was 4th gear at 10,000 RPM, I didn’t know the 750RR became a weapon at this revs. I’ve never been one to push my bikes. This was a rush. It was a sensation between, this is amazing and scary. Amazing because the bike (Gxsr 750) is so capable, way more then I’m willing to compromise for. Scary, because if I get use to this much adrenaline I might be in trouble with the 👮♀️ one day, do to speeding. That’s was my rationale. The nail in the head, was when my wife asked to go grab a coffee that afternoon on the Gxsr, then and there, I decided it was time for the cruiser life stile. To now want a Tuono 1100RR is beyond me, is it men seeking for adventure🫡🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️. God bless you and thank so su much for the videos. Ride safe everyone.
@mattsez2879
2 жыл бұрын
Venture looks cooler.....GoldWing lasts longer......guess its all personal priority. My goldwing GL1500 is 30 years old......and id ride it to CA and back today, and i love that confidence in my bike.........but not one single girl will say ooooo......nice bike. btw.....i have not heard good things about the 1800's
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
Gold wings are definitely more refined than ventures. At least they are more refined than the royal star venture. Which was designed in the mid-90s and released in 2009 with a cassette player.. but they built another touring bike around that fabulous reliable as a sledgehammer Yamaha V4 engine that was introduced in 1983, used in the Vmax and the Venture and the Royal star.. I like gold wings, I bought one, I just was disappointed in how difficult they are to do minor maintenance chores compared to the simple venture .. I have nothing against gold wings. I just don’t wanna work on them. And I know quite a few mechanics that won’t work on them. The best mechanic I ever knew that worked in quite a few different dealerships, would not work on a Goldwing.. he said you waste too much time dealing with all that plastic he called it Tupperware.. you are right about the women..Every time I see a hot chick. I tell myself- “she ain’t writing to you cowpuncher”
@BigBadLoneWolf
Жыл бұрын
My Royal star venture is 22 years old and only 29k miles on the clock, both my bikes will need a valve check before the next riding season, the venture will take around 3 hours to do, my VFR 800 vtec will take 2 days to check the valves
@OACSOME
2 жыл бұрын
just changed engine oil, final drive oil, and flushed coolant system last week on my 7’ midnight venture getting it ready for rising season
@rfc490
2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it in one,,"i dont even know where the clutch is on the goldwing"... Because you don't have to 😉
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
You know in all the motorcycles I’ve had over the decades. Even on my road racing machines,Or especially on my Honda Pacific Coast which I commuted on for 24 years. I have never had to do surgery on any of my clutches
@Diap842IV
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides that was a problem area on the Cavalcade. Grabby juddery clutch. Had it worked on at dealer with some improvement but I just put up with it. Probably same layout as original Ventures; clutch under right cover, stator under the left. Took 20 minutes to replace each spark plug. They all have their servicing issues.
@Diap842IV
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides same goes for electronic ignition. The Cavalcade had carburetors but if the battery had an internal short, it could be jump started but would barely run after disconnecting the jumper cable.
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
Well I just learned where are the clutches on the gold wings, at least the newer Goldwing after 2018. The reason I learned this from videos on KZitem that owners of the newer machines clutches are failing, and of course clutches are not covered under warranty. Clutches, bulbs, tires, brake pads, and I think belts are what are known as consumables. I don’t think any manufacturer covers clutches but I was just a little sympathetic for the owner of a Goldwing with a automatic transmission set up. I forget what it’s called. But, this Goldwing on her of a newer Goldwing clutch failed two times. Wanda did replace it the first time, but not the second time in the motorcycle has very low miles.. The reason Honda told him the clutch was failing is. He was practicing slow speed maneuvers in parking lots quite often. The clutch slips in those automatics at very low speed, parking lot speeds in the gold wings, and they are prone to failing when driving slow apparently.. I remember Honda made a CB 750 in the 1970s with an automatic transmission, they also made one in the CM400, Suzuki also made an automatic transmission motorcycle, I believe it was a 300 cc twin based on its GS 400/425/500 motor.. I don’t remember Yamaha or Kawasaki ever making an automatic street bike, I know they all make scooters that are automatic, and Honda had the smaller bikes that were singles, and the best selling motorcycle of all time that’s sold more than 100 million motorcycles The Honda cub is an automatic/semi automatic, they may quads that are semi automatic, Moto Guzzi made the version called a convert which was bulletproof. You could leave it in low all day up to 70 miles an hour, you could leave it in high all day also up to whatever top speed was. It had a different set up with a SACHS torque converter. I have never heard of one of those failing , and I have been a moto guzzi owners club member and I’ve had 4 guzzi’s for just under 300,000 combined miles 1979 to 2021zx but all of mine were standard shift.. come to think of it. I have never had a clutch fill in any motorcycle I ever owned or raced. My race bike that I won six championships on and two national championships still has the original clutch in it. That clutch has well over 200 merciless second gear launches on it.. I understand using the wrong oils, like oils designed for cars with “friction modifier’s “can cause clutch slippage if you put them in some motorcycles.. for getting back to the point. I did see how you change the clutch on the newer goldwing With the semi automatic transmission. I was very surprised to see that you change the clutch from under the engine, almost like just pulling the oil pan and reaching up in there to get to the clutch.. that actually is a relief if, that is also how you change the clutch on the standard non-semi automatic transmission Goldwing. I thought for sure you would have to pull the transmission off of the back of the engine to get to the clutch like on a BMW K bike which happens to be more than $5000 to change the clutch on one of those. I had a K 1200 LT. I had an acquaintance that was a BMW dealership mechanic. I stopped in to ask him a question and he had a K bike up on the lift with the back and off of the machine. And I could see the back of the engine where the clutch is. I asked him what’s up with this. He said the slave cylinder leaked on the clutch. I said what’s that gonna set the owner back. He said $4500. That was the 2010 price. You know it’s over $5000 here in 2023 so my curiosity has been satisfied about possibly changing the clutch on a GL 1800 manual transmission .. it looks like servicing the bands for the valve body on a General Motors automatic transmission in a automobile through the oil pan..Not as bad as I thought it would be
@i94yeh2p
2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I never even would have thought a Yamaha would have something comparable to a Goldwing. Goldwings are the kings of the recliner motorcycle touring market when it comes to performance and dependability, but this Venture is impressive.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
You are right. Gold wings set the standard. I’ve had both. Goldwings are perfect.. my GL 1800 Goldwing was much more modern and advanced than my current venture. It was smoother, faster, the suspension was better, the brakes were very powerful. but I didn’t wanna work on it again. What a pain in the ass working on a gold wing is. Everything practically requires that you remove plastic panels..It’s called a motorcycle and you can’t even see the motor.. it just didn’t seem like a motorcycle to me. It seemed like a car that was missing two wheels.. I just don’t wanna work on them again. They are not mechanic friendly. Not nearly as bad as a BMW were you even have to have special tools to work on them. I mean special tools that only fit that motorcycle.. I had to find out if I was missing something so I bought the BMW, got rid of it …I bought the gold wing. good handling good brakes not as roomy as a venture, but it does handle better than the ventures, it has better brakes than ventures, but Venture has a smoother ride and is much roomier..The Venture was getting long in the tooth when they stopped making them in 2013. So that was 1999, to 2013 for the royal star venture model. But if you think about it, they came out with the 1800 Goldwing in 1988. A friend of mine bought one. And he paid $8888 for it. That’s how it was advertised from a North Carolina dealer. Get an 88 Goldwing for 8888. so that six cylinder Goldwing engine was 1800cc has been around for 30 years.. that’s enough time to have something perfected and it is. They’re perfect.. just not my cup of tea.. I actually find it boring.. like owning a Toyota Corolla. Probably the best car ever made in history of the world. But as boring as my toaster…
@frankward8003
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides In 1988 the Gold Wing was the GL1500...the GL1800 was 2001
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
@@frankward8003 That is correct the 1000 was 1975, then it became an 1100 with the gauges on the tank but no fairing yet, then the interstate changed everything. Then the 1200 , in 1988 was the six cylinder 1800 which had a 29 year run until 2018, which is what we have now. The most refined smoothest most reliable touring bike to date. I always felt that the 1500 Goldwing was the best looking Goldwing ever, still do.. I was actually shopping for a GL 1500 when I found my GL 1800 with only 13,000 miles on it for sale locally.. I never thought the GL 1800 was very good looking compared to the GL 1500. but the 1800 was newer and it had such low miles that I had to bite on that one.. I tried for two years to feel something for that 1800. I just never bonded with it. I thought it was boring and dull. Besides that it was yellow which made it impossible.. I don’t care if yellow is the least involved in accidents color on cars.. I am very anxious to see The new Suzuki version of a gold wing, with air conditioning,and a supercharger, and the paint changes colors electrically…
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
@@frankward8003 I remember when Honda came out with the six cylinder Goldwing in 1988. A coworker flew down to the Carolinas, bought a new Goldwing six cylinder and rode it home to Western Pennsylvania here.. I remember the ad it was advertised here which was much lower than you could buy a gold wing for here in Western Pennsylvania period it went something like this, buy an 88 goldwing for $8888. you are correct, that was the 1500 CC. In my opinion which most doesn’t count for much, I think the 1500 Gold wings were the most beautiful gold wings ever. When I bought my 2002 yellow GL 1800 with only 13,000 miles on it from the original owner, when it was 16 years old, I was actually searching the Internet for a GL 1500 Goldwing at the time, that is the goldwing i bought wanted in that wineberry candy apple red color. But the yellow 1800 I ended up with just happened to come on line the day I started looking. it was pretty much stock/original except for some added on trinkets which I removed and sold on eBay like the floorboards.. and the drivers backrest. I don’t know what it was about that particular set up, but that motorcycle with that Honda accessory backrest hurt my back. Every time I hit a dip or a bump, it was like getting hit in the back by the backrest. I ended up taking it off and selling it on eBay.. I have had the back rests on all three of my ventures and on my BMW, and they worked fine, no issues. But not that GL 1800 backrest for some reason..
@dushysomasundrarajah4599
2 жыл бұрын
I owned 2015 Royal Star Venture and I love it.
@wingandhog
2 жыл бұрын
The Venture is a nice bike, no doubt about it as are most bikes these days. I own a 20 year old Harley Electra Glide and a ‘new to me’ 08 GoldWing GL1800 which I bought last June. To me, both bikes are incredibly easy to wrench on (for standard maintenance items) and dependable. Yeah, the GoldWing air filter replacement is probably the most tedious maintenance item, but if you’re organized and can turn a ratchet and screwdriver, it’s not difficult. Just time consuming. I did mine one month after I bought it. It took me three hours, but I took my time following Cruiseman’s Garage how-to video. Next time, I think I can knock it out in two hours or less. Oil changes take 15 minutes. If I needed to replace suspension, I would take it to Traxxion Dynamics and invest in their complete upgrade. On a side point: I just came back from a road trip to Arizona on my Wing. I tracked my mileage and averaged 43mpg, but to be fair, most of that was open road riding. My twin-cam 88 Harley gets slightly less than that.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I thought Harleys had this scientifically termed “thermal efficiency “as far as gas mileage goes. Meaning, they get very good gas mileage. That’s surprising that Goldwing gets better mileage than your Harley.. as far as taking your bike to traction dynamics. I did the forks on my GL 1800 Goldwing as far as upgrading the springs, changing the bushings and the fork oil and the fork seals. That was pretty straightforward easy stuff, and it was not hard to get the forks off either..But when you upgrade the forks you have to put a matching spring rate shock spring on the machine at the same time.. The GL 1800 I bought was a 2002 with only 13,000 miles on it from the original owner. That bike still had the original16 yr old tires on it, the original brake fluid and clutch fluid, the original air filter filled with mice bedding.. I actually put a video on KZitem under my other screen name with these three words as the title showing the mice bedding and how I mouse proofed my air filter. The title of that video on KZitem is three words- goldwing made mouseproof-That’s my yellow 2002 Goldwing in the video. The original owner of my Goldwing did nothing to it. As a matter of fact I asked him how long the oil had been in it-he said he doesn’t remember..That’s what happens a lot of times. Motorcycles don’t wear out, they are neglected to death. When I got my Goldwing from that guy. The suspension was shot because it was never on the center stand all those years just sitting. It felt like it had flat tires on it The suspension was just dead.. would you happen to know the elevation in the part of Arizona you were riding through? Elevation has a great deal to do with gas mileage. The closer you are to sea level the better your mileage.. there’s more air in the air at sea level. formula One cars that race in Mexico City when they have the event there, lose around 100 hp because Mexico City is more than a mile above sea level.. when it comes to being charged in a Honda dealership for changing the air filter, for those who don’t do their own work, flat rate manual is what they go by as far as charging the customer for the time it takes. And the time is either five or six hours, no matter how quickly the mechanic can do it. The customer gets charged the “flat rate”.. when I was a motorcycle mechanic in three different dealerships. I don’t think there was a single day that I didn’t make at least 12 hours pay in seven hours which is all that I worked, when you are a flat rate mechanic, you only get paid when you’re working on something. If the parts department didn’t stock the basics, you had to put the parts in a box and put that aside and work on something else. Mechanics hate that.. I worked in one shop as a salesman, family owned Yamaha/Kawasaki dealer. They would run out of the basic things like spark plugs and oil filters. They did not want to put any money in parts inventory. Even though companies like Honda and Yamaha will give you a 30/60/90 day list of things to stock. They tell you what parts you’re going to sell every 30 days, every 60 days, and every 90 days.. you better stock the stuff they tell you are on the 30 day list like oil.. with the Internet today and fast shipping and competition. Dealerships have it very tough. from where I live north of Pittsburgh, there were 17 japanese motorcycle dealerships within an hour of me. Now there are only two, and those two are owned by the family, they own the building, and they are in long-term since the 50s or 60s .. Like I told my kids many times when they were growing up, it’s rough out there..
@wingandhog
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides ... I DID see that video with the mouse infested air filter. That's what prompted me to open mine up and check it since i only owned my Wing about a month at that time. The previous owner is an engineer and very methodical in his maintenance process. The air filter was in great shape, but I replaced it anyway since I had everything apart. I am not sure what the elevation is in Phoenix but we passed through a series of mountain passes to get there from Albuquerque. I know each dealership is different. I do my best to stay out of them if I can avoid it. Harley and Honda. I'm not a professional mechanic or even an expert at it but I have learned to do what I can to save those fees
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
@@wingandhog someone that watched my video about the swingarm on the Venture sent me a memo that that is not normal to have end play..Side to side movement at the swingarm pivot, which mine has, somewhere around a 16th “… stuff like that bugs me. I can’t let it go. So I am in the process of taking the bags, pipes, final drive, rear wheel, and finally the swing arm off. I suspect that the original owner did the swingarm Grease job, because my shock linkage was well greased when I took it apart. But I think he didn’t use a torque wrench to torque down the fasteners that the swingarm bearings ride on. I don’t think that is harmful to have a 16th play, but I’m going to rip it apart and go through the motions and the torque sequence, 57 on one side for the stub, then 72 on both nuts..Good time to lube the drive shaft splines, and I’m even gonna change the oil in the shock.. I changed the oil in my 2002 RS Venture shock by removing the Schrader valve in the air hose and letting it drain overnight. Then I replaced the amount of oil I got out of a shock with fresh oil. The oil that came out was black. But after putting fresh oil in, I could feel no difference. I know shock absorber and Fork oil gets cooked. When I road raced.. guys I knew ran endurance races that were five and six and 24 hours. They change the shock oil after each event and the fork oil. It gets hot. So hot you can’t hold your hand on a shock absorber at times.. that cooks the oil.. Anyway, it’s noon and I am going to get after it. I hope to have it done in less than three hours
@josephwhite1098
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought an 89 Venture at the tail end of last season for $2000 when I get home my floats started sticking and it was pouring gasoline on the ground I recently got that fixed and get it all put back together. I noticed the other day it was dripping a little bit of gas on the ground, I have not found the source yet. Weather is not been good enough to even want to mess with it. I plan to ride this bike for the next three seasons then I want to buy the newest 2000s venture I can get my hands on
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
89 ventures i know were the fastest generation 89-90s.. my 86 venture did trickle gas on the ground 2 times… both times, that happened when it was the first start up of the season after sitting for months during the winter. I went back to bike out of the garage, and start it up, and it would cough and choke for a while until the carbs woke up.. I don’t know/or remember if the early 1980s ventures had heaters on the carburetors. I do know that my 2008 royal star venture has heaters. I do not know their function other than, something needs heat , maybe it’s for the initial cold start, I know they don’t have automatic chokes, they don’t even have chokes. They have something called an enriching circuit. When you pull your choke rod out on your venture, you will see A little brass rod that the linkage pulls out all four of them on all four carburetors. That has a rubber plunger like device on the end of those rods. That simply opens up a second passage for gasoline to be drawn into the carburetors, because the fuel does not vaporized when it’s cold, so with carburetors, the enriching circuit dumps a lot more fuel in, that’s why it’s called an enriching circuit, because the fuel is not atomizing or vaporizing as it should until everything warms up. That is actually the most corrosive time for your engine, especially for water cooled engines.. Cold start up.. because, the cylinder walls take a while to warm up ..because they are water cooled, The warm up takes longer. The problem with that is, the incoming fuel condensers on the cylinder walls, just like humidity condenses on a cold glass of iced tea in the summer. That condensed fuel there’s not lubrication, in fact, it tends to wash away lubrication on the cylinder and piston skirt and piston rings.. that’s why you want to warm your engine up before putting stress on it by pulling away. It says that in my owners manual. I know the government wants you to put your car in gear and start driving away after a few seconds with your car, but I’m gonna go with what the engineers at Yamaha say. Warm it up first. But it’s not a good thing to leave the enriching circuit on for a long time.. soon as my machines will run without the choke/enriching circuit on, I turn it off even if I have to gently use a little more throttle to bring the idle up a bit.. as for my 86 Venture discharging raw gas out of one of the overflow tubes under the bike those two times over 16 years of ownership. That went away after the first ride both years that that happened because I checked it closely every time I stopped after that. And it actually became a habit to check.. I got into the habit of always turning the petcock off on any motorcycle I have it has a petcock I bought a half a mile before I get to my driveway just before I park my machines for the winter.. I do that in case one of these floats overflows because the needle and seat may have a speck of crud preventing the fuel from shutting off completely. This can be a big problem especially on motorcycles that have the fuel tank above the engine. I have seen this happen The fuel will trickle from the gas tank into the carburetor that has a bad seat, and sometimes that gasoline leaks into the cylinder of the engine, past the rings, down into the crank case. That destroys the oil. It will not lubricate correctly. I want you to open the engine oil fill screw on your venture and smell it. If you have to stick something down inside there to get a sample of the oil on a pencil or a straw, and smell the oil. If it smells like gas, don’t even start that bike.. in fact, I would buy a gallon of regular cheap oil, run that oil for a while till it gets warm, and drain it, that will rinse some/ not all the crud out.. The only way you can get about 95% of the sludge, grit, gum, soot, acid, Metal particles, and corrosion out of any Engine that has been sitting, is to get that oil up to operating temperature by riding it, not by letting it idle. Motorcycle engines can you take as long as 45 minutes to reach full operating oil temperature. Do you want to have some high flow turbulence going on in that oil pan and through that engine to loosen all of that crud and particles embedded in the crud to get suspended in the detergent of the oil. And when you get home, you wanna let that oil drain overnight.. I always let all my oils drain overnight. One time I got the cap off of a spray paint can, I imagine that’s probably a third of a cup size, maybe 4 ounces… after draining my oil for about 10 minutes. I removed the large pan of oil and I put that spray paint can lid under the bike overnight to see how much extra oil comes out… The next morning. That cap was full and there was a circle about 12 inches in diameter of oil that has spilled on my garage floor. That is how much oil drains overnight.. I’m gonna stop here and I will start another reply because when they get big like this, sometimes they won’t go through on KZitem.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
part two on your venture, 1989, he improved second gear. Second gear is the gear most vulnerable to failure on all motorcycles. Baby second gear. Don’t take your motorcycle up above 3500 RPMs are 4000 RPMs on every shift from 1st to 2nd. That’s a lot of spinning torque . Those little tabs on the sides of the gears are called dogs. They have to slide sideways when you shift and index into holes on the gear beside the gear with the dogs. you want to always let off the gas in a coordinated Rhythm between your right hand, your left hand, and your left foot. So there is no load on the dog when you rotate that shift drum/shift fork/to make that transmission disengage first gear and slide into second gear engagement. I only bring this up because the early Venture’s had a weak second gear..They don’t call transmissions crash boxes for nothing. That is a very violent action that takes place when you shift gears. Letting off the gas slightly on every shift takes the load off of the dog so it can slide easily to disengage from one gear, and the dog on second gear can easily index with the slot on the gear it supposed to mesh with.. your 89 Venture had no common flaw.. The first three years of the 1200 ventures had clutch problem, I don’t know what the exact problem was with the 1200 ventures, but they did change the clutch for 1986, second gear problem, water pump redesign. After that, they were perfect..They gave the 1300 venture engine an updated water pump, second gear, and the diaphragm type clutch used in the Vmax.. your machine has an onboard compressor mounted in the floor of the trunk for the air suspension system. That is supposed to be serviced and have the water absorption decadent material changed periodically or you will have air pump problems/leaks I would suggest buying a set of Progressive brand fork springs and shock spring. They are not that difficult to install, and you should be changing your fork oil anyway, so those fork springs have been under compression with all that weight on it for 33 years.. same for the rear shock spring. They get tired/fatigue. when I installed progressive fork springs and shocks spring on my 86 Venture. It was a completely different motorcycle. The handling was crisp, the suspension compliance over bumps and ripples in the road did not upset the steering or the handling. And, when you put Progressive brand fork springs and shock spring on your machine, you’ll never need air.. The spring rates do you not need air assistance. Actually air is the most archaic low-tech way of increasing spring rate for your suspension on anything. Because as that air chamber compresses, the spring rate increases greatly. It’s not a constant spring rate with air. when you see air valves on dirt bikes on the fork, that is not to put air in, that’s to let air out that builds up from heat.. I would spray that seat on your venture which is probably very dry with lemon pledge and let that soak a bit before you sit on it may be causing it to crack. Never use armor all or any type of protectant on vinyl. It reduces its resistance to ozone.. your machine has a system for monitoring things like oil level, headlight, tail light, side stand, and battery fluid level.. if that battery probe that goes down into one of the acid cells is not in a lead acid battery that you can actually install that in, that warning light is going to be flashing on your dashboard in your face all day. The way to get that light stop flashing is to Solder a 2000ohm resistor onto the wire that goes to the battery probe. then add a piece of wire on the end of the resistor, and connect that to 12 volts.. that will satisfy the circuit and make the battery warning light go out.. but if you do have a lead acid battery in there that you can remove the cap and install that probe, you won’t have to add that resistor to the circuit.. your venture has vents on the insides of your legs around the knee area. Those are to let heat come from under the fuel tank after it goes through the warm radiator on to your legs.Those do not seal very well in hot weather. So for summer use, take those panels off, you can get them off without removing anything else, they just plugg into gromets.. and seal them completely from the inside with tape, don’t use masking tape, once that stuff gets wet, you have to use dynamite to get it off. That will reduce the heat on you a great deal… I change the brake fluid and the clutch fluid in all my machines every year. The clutch on your venture is hydraulic, takes brake fluid, brake fluid absorbs water right through the breather on the master cylinder. Every time you pull the clutch and brake levers, you are pumping air in and out of the breather to equalize the volume. that’s how it gets in there. The problem with getting water in your brake fluid is, it corrodes components on the inside of those master cylinders, the lines, the connections, and all of that corrosion gravitates down to those cylinder of your slave cylinder. So your slave cylinder is cycling through grit/corrosion, and the water will lay in there. It will corrode the slave cylinder piston, it will ruin the slave cylinder seal, and it will leak. When it leaks, it will ruin the belly pan and the paint.Brake fluid destroys paint. I cover my fuel tanks with a large plastic yard leaf bag/plastic bag anytime I am going to change brake fluid or clutch fluid and I cover my gas tank. And I have rags ready to dab up any drips, and no matter how careful I am, there are always drips..You can go to AutoZone and buy a vacuum bleeder pretty cheap. It comes with lots of attachments for different applications. It’s just a hand pump looks like a staple gun. Rather than send all that Credi brake fluid that’s in the reservoir through the system bleeding it manually. I use the vacuum bleeder to suck out all the crudy brake fluid ..Then I will clean the inside of the Reservoir very carefully, and I have a garbage can right beside me, and every paper towel I use inside that master cylinder, I immediately throw it in the garbage. You don’t want to accidentally bump your paint. Then fill the master cylinder with fresh dot 4 brake fluid.. place the lid back on the master cylinder do not pull the lever on the clutch master cylinder or the brake master cylinder with the lid off. Brake fluid will squirt out of there. Now that you have clean fresh brake fluid in the master cylinder, you go down to the bleeder, and attach The vacuum hose to the nipple and draw the old brake fluid out into the little bottle that the vacuum bleeder collects the brake fluid with. You don’t attach the vacuum bleeder directly to the nipple. The vacuum bleeder gets connected to a bottle. It sucks the air out of the bottle, and the bottle sucks the air out of the nipple. That way you don’t contaminate the bleeder gun.. I carried a spare slave cylinder seal with me at all times on my Venture because they were known to fail. It’s a simple job to replace that seal. It’s only about the size of a quarter, and I think there’s only two bolts that hold the lid on the slave cylinder. I was always prepared to do a roadside repair in case my slave cylinder failed.. if that machine you just picked up has been sitting, check the fork tubes in the area where the seals wipe. See if there’s any corrosion there. If there is clean it off with fine steel wool.. it wouldn’t hurt to put a little oil on those four tubes where they meet the dust wiper and the seal for a while to lubricate the seal.. i’m sure your clutch lever and brake lever pivots haven’t seen Greece for years. White lithium grease. There is a brass bushing it will probably show a lot of wear on the front brake lever.. you can clean that up with some very fine sandpaper and re-grease it. those are one of the things that gets neglected. Motorcycles don’t wear out, they are neglected to death.. your machine has 11 locks cylinders on it. I would get a little bottle of graphite lock ease to lubricate all of them. Put a little bit in each lock and work it in with the key.. don’t slam your keys all the way into the bottom of their locks cylinders. Especially the ignition switch. Some ignition switches are like a sandwich with multiple layers, and the bottom layer is just a piece of metal with bend over tabs holding all of those electrical connections together. Slamming your key all the way in sort of opens up that sandwich by pushing the bottom of the ignition switch down and unbending those bend tabs.. good luck with your venture, you have the fastest of the ventures. Yours has 35 mm carburetors and it is in a higher state of tune. The royal star venture in a milder state of tune and I think they only have 32 mm carburetors. The first time I rode my 2002 midnight Venture, I thought there was something wrong with it because it was so slow compared to my 86 Venture. Those early ventures turned in the 12 second quarter mile times at the dragstrip..That was faster than my 1967 GTO
@josephwhite1098
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides Thank you for all the information
@bradbruggeman6745
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides I agree the 1300 Ventures were fast. I had an 88 and got the chance to play with an 1800 wing once. From 0-100 it was dead even. That's saying alot considering 500cc difference and fuel injection compared to carbs. Seems like Yamaha would have used the newer 1700 vmax engine for the newer Ventures? I lost all interest in the Venture when they chose a v twin. I prefer something smoother.
@stephenkir7839
Жыл бұрын
I love my Royal Venture
@FaithisKey792
2 жыл бұрын
Do you think $10k for a 2009 Yamaha like this one, is a good price. it has 38,000 kml on it. I’m in Canada. Right now I have a 2009 M109R. But I still want to have my beautiful wife be more comfortable. I sold my Gxsr750R for the m109r this year. Just so my wife can come on rides with me. I have been riding sports bike for over 10 years. Thank you for this video. God bless you. I really like this bike. I’m 5’10” and my wife is 5’4”.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
LUIS.. I know the prices have gone up up up. You can tell by my videos all the work I’ve done on mine, would you be interested in buying mine. I am in Pittsburgh PA I don’t know where you are. my machine has 31 or 32K miles.. i’ve done every maintenance chore over the last six months that you can think of. Changed all the fluids, lubed the driveshaft splines, change the oil in the shock while I had the swingarm off greased all the bearings and bushings, new tires, cleaned and synchronized the carbs, adjusted the valves, which none of them needed adjusted so I just checked them. They were all within spec. New air filters/oil/spark plugs/final drive oil/motor oil/cleaned and grease the clutch and brake lever pivots/change the brake fluid and the clutch fluid, Inspected and greased the front wheel bearing seals.. I have all the records of the work I have done to the machine. This machine has absolutely zero mechanical issues. Everything works, cruise control, all the lights, I’ve upgraded the horns, I have upgraded the tool kit..I don’t want anything near $10,000 for it like that one for sale near you. If you live far, I will pick you up at the airport, will do the changeover, and you can ride at home. Let me know if you’re interested
@bigwu100
13 күн бұрын
I loved the power of my goldwing but all the plastic is daunting. For that reason I sold it.
@billgraham4630
Жыл бұрын
Bought the 2020 star venture absolutely love it!
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations. I still have never seen one of these machines you just got on the street or in a dealer showroom
@billgraham4630
Жыл бұрын
Show room , went to prince edward Island and back about 4000 km from us performing excellently so comfortable a powerful bike up hill also loaded up no problem !
@FaithisKey792
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I just did a 12 hour shift at work and hearing this ordeal about the gold wing. I think is time for me to go back to work again😴. Ok never a gold wing. I also like to work on my bikes.
@user-bu2en3cl6s
6 ай бұрын
If my wife ever decides she doesn't want to travel with me for weeks at a time on our gl1500, I'll consider buying a Venture... ...then I'll just get on the Valkyrie and forget about that.
@Jodyrides
6 ай бұрын
Don’t you like Longboards?
@billgraham4630
2 жыл бұрын
You are spot on with this comparison !
@Jim-cc3my
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I ride an 01 RS Boulevard and love it. I’ve been thinking of putting a vector batwing fairing and aftermarket hard bags on it. I don’t live far from Pittsburgh and can’t wait for a great weekend for a ride to Benezette.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
Benezette pa..Home of the largest free roaming elk herd east of the Mississippi.. I have panned for gold near there in bradford pa.. that’s where I saw my first rattlesnake. I did not know we had rattlesnakes in Pennsylvania..I also saw my first forest fire in black moshannon national forest near there. I didn’t know we had forest fires in Pennsylvania..It’s dofferent when you get to that area along route 555, 120, it looks like a different planet. At least it did the last time I rode on ry 120 ,not far from Denny’s beer barrel pub, home of the largest hamburger in the world.. that’s also not far from the Pennsylvania Grand Canyon.. I stopped there one day with friends, it was very hot. I just wanted to takeoff my boots and socks and suck my feet in a creek up there. It was August. Even though it was summer, it was hot, and the snow had melted in those mountains months ago,that water in that creek was so cold, I could not put my feet in it.. I never stopped in benezette..What’s cooking in that place?
@Mannix2023
2 жыл бұрын
That’s why I keep ridding my 2001 Kawasaki Voyager 1200 is smooth it has power and very friendly maintenance valves don’t need adjustment it’s shaft drive air filter replacement it takes 10 minutes I love my bike
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I love those Kawasaki voyager’s. I went to buy one, I took it for a test drive, I fell in love with it, but the guy would not budge on the price. So I drove home two hours away, and when I got home, I could not drop it from my mind. I decided to sleep on it. I had trouble sleeping. I called the guy the next day and told him I’ll take it at his price. But it already sold. I believe it was the last year they made them, 2003..
@Mannix2023
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides yep that’s why I not even look at gold wings every time I see one I just think in all the pain and suffering for maintenance plus very costly in just the air filter my voyager have only 39458 original miles and have a very extended new oem parts to keep it running for many years to come . There are there if you want one check the American voyager association from time to time I’ve seen good bikes for sale but remember we all keep our bikes in top. shape good luck 👍
@littlemotorcyclemovies
Жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear about the BMW purchase, I offer you strength and support as you heal.
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
don’t feel sorry for me because I made the mistake of not listening to people that have had K bikes from BMW when they told me they ain’t what they used to be.. I had to try one because i never had a BMW before that.. here are just a few issues I had with that bike, that weird front end that no one other manufacturer has copied. When you hit the brakes on a motorcycle. That energy of the motorcycle rolling at speed has to go somewhere. It goes into the brake rotors as heat, and into the fork springs on a normal telescopic front end…On the BMW, with their TELE, lever front end, the energy doesn’t go into the fork spring. It makes the bike feel extremely heavy if you have the front wheel turned at Low speeds, i’m talking about parking lot speeds. That’s a 900 pound motorcycle. You tap the brakes ,the energy does not go into compressing the front end. It goes into making that thing feel like a wheelbarrow filled with 900 pounds of dirt. As a matter of fact, the handlebars on that bike are a lot like the handlebars on a Rototiller, they are long and awkward for wrestling with that heavy motorcycle that has a front end that does not absorb kinetic energy into the fork springs… that bike is the most awkward motorcycle I have ever ridden at low speeds in parking lots or just pulling into a gas station. I actually pulled about 6 feet away from the gas pump when I would pull into a gas station, so the bike wouldn’t fall on me trapping me between the gas pump and the bike.. it was that awkward when I would park that machine on the side stand , and restart it , it would pour white smoke out the exhaust pipe like the old Kawasaki five hundred triple two strokes did . the dealer said that’s normal I got out of the habit of using the front brakes because of the weird front end, and I consciously had to make the switch over to using just the back brake at low speed in parking lots. The problem with that was, the rear brakes made a head turning screeching noise. The dealer said that’s normal but, I can get rid of the noise if I buy an aftermarket rotor and brake pads, $750.. then there’s the ABS brakes that do not work on gravel. zero brakes..I was going down a paved road that was covered with fly ash and gravel searching for a campground where my friends were waiting. I went down that hill and I tapped the brakes to maintain my speed, I had no brake pressure in the front or rear. I ran into a cyclone fence at the bottom of the hill to stop breaking the front fender.. The windshield was the most distorted windshield I ever sat behind. And that was a problem on that machine because you have to look through it. At the cost of that motorcycle, that windshield should have been as clear as any motorcycle out of India or China at least then there was the issue with the final drives failing. That story was going across the country and around the world in the late 2000s. Even two guys that rode two BMWs in the iron butt rally, they rode BMWs, and they carried a spare final drive. If you know how big and heavy a final drive is, you know what a pain in the butt that was to carry that thing for that distance, but obviously they felt that it was necessary to carry that as a spare. What does that tell you.. I do all my own maintenance. But everything I read on changing the brake and clutch fluid on that machine on the Internet so don’t even think of doing this job yourself because if you get air in the system by accident, the entire breaking system front and rear shuts down and you have to transport the bike to the dealer on a trailer because you won’t have any brakes until the dealer does a computer reset. So I asked the dealer how much it was to do the brake fluid change. Now I change the brake fluid on all my machines every year and it usually takes me less than an hour to do the brakes and the clutch fluid every year. The BMW dealer said that that is a $750 labor charge just to do the brake fluid change, Plus parts, plus shop materials, plus disposal fee, plus tax.. I bought the aftermarket attachment for the master cylinders to increase the capacity of the brake fluid so that the system would not get sucked dry when I turn the key on and crack the bleeder to bleed the brakes.. but the main reason I got rid of that BMW. When I bought that BMW I had already heen riding about 600,000 miles behind bars.But I felt like a beginner on that bike every time I pulled up to a stop sign or a red light or into a gas station. It was just so awkward with that front end, those grabby electric brakes, and that screeching rear break, and then the embarrassment of every time I use the side stand, it poured out white smoke on the restart. for the kind of money that machine cost me, none of those things should have been an issue. They are not good enough, not even close to the japanese .. I should have listened to the BMW riders that I know that said, the BMWs ain’t what they used to be when all they had were the air cooled twins that made them world-famous for reliability and long distance touring.. they were right. I learned the hard way.. It did have a nice highway ride, I thought it was a nice looking ,mine was a black one.. it had a great all day seat, The reverse came in handy with all that weight, I loved the heated seat and heated grips. But it was too flawed.. I just could not get used to it. I tried for two years.. so don’t feel sorry for me. I actually sold it for more than I paid for it two years earlier.. and I bought the bike I should’ve bought in the first place, my first GL 1800 Goldwing.. perfect bike, but the thought of having to do something serious like replace the clutch made me have second thoughts, just trying to change the air cleaner. I could not believe how difficult that was, on the Goldwing, just changing the air cleaner. I thought, if changing the air cleaner is that complex, I sure don’t want to get stuck having to change the transmission or having to pull the engine for some reason. The Goldwing is a perfect motorcycle, but the thought of having to do a serious surgical procedure on it scared me away. And I went right back to a venture, my third venture.. not as smooth as a Goldwing, not as fast as a Goldwing, but I hell of a lot easier to work on, and about 12 miles per gallon better gas mileage with my ventures.. that’s about 70 miles further per tank full of gas, and ventures have a petcock with a reserve position the gold wings do not… ventures and gold wings both are known for going over 200,000 miles.. goldwing i bought is much smoother but I like the much much roomier venture, and I think the Venture has a smooth ride even though the gold wing is a better handling machine, and has more powerful brakes.. they’re both great bikes, it’s just that the venture is a lot simpler. and the Venture actually looks like a motor cycle. The motor is the centerpiece of the machine when you look at it. You can’t even see the engine on a Goldwing, just the valve covers.. I think a motorcycle should look like a motorcycle. I mean I think you really should be able to see the motor on a motor cycle..
@charlestomasino9161
2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree I like my bikes stock
@busterbrown1686
2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2022 Gold Wing DCT tour, and it's the holy grail of bikes for me. WALKING FORWARD/REVERSE, electric windshield, water cooled, hill start assist, key FOB/with electronic locking of the bags trunk and cubby, linked brakes, cruise control, navigation, Carplay/android, smooth 7 speed automatic ( joy in traffic, no thinking just ride) electric shock adjustment, 2 USB connections (phone/music), 4 speakers 45W system I can hear at highway speeds with full face helmet closed, very smooth, the Cadillac of bikes. A big difference to me is a FIXED FAIRING, which handles very high winds on the highway and roads very well. I don't like handle bar fairings anymore.Too much power is ridiculous, there are four riding modes rain, econ, tour and sport. you dial up or down the riding characteristics from slow to blazing scary fast at your finger tips. Cornering is easy with low placement of the in line opposed beastly flat 6 engine. As to the GW being covered up is aerodynamics and wind protection which is great. I'm not a mechanic and don't want to fool with long hours changing the air filter, so yeah I'll pay a lot for some maintenance like the air filter, so are modern cars, a lot of repairs are not doable in your garage,you have to take the bumper off a Cadillac SST to change a headlight. Other maintenance like brakes, tire change I can do, as there are maintenance how to videos on KZitem, like Cruisemans garage. GW DCT is a whole other level to the Venture. Technological advancement is MODERN and on point. How's the heat on your legs riding on a hot summer day ?
@zlatko8288
2 жыл бұрын
Its not a V6 engine
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
Wow that shows how much I don’t know. I did not realize that the new wings have V6 engines..I never really paid any attention to them. i’m gonna have to check that out on the Internet. I can’t believe Honda would abandon that perfect flat six boxer engine.. I know that Suzuki is developing two new ultra touring machines. Midsize, and king-size. And the king-size one I’ve heard may have a V-6.. and one of them is supercharged .. air conditioning that pumps heat / AC through ducts that come out of the vents in front of the rider, and ports where you plug hoses to connect your jacket and helmet behind the seat to have heat or AC pump through the special jacket and helmet available with the machine …I’ve heard about these two machines Suzuki has been working on but the c h i n a virus has delayed their introduction . I’ve also heard that they have paint on these machines that the color can be changed in an instant just by pushing a button. That doesn’t sound like anything I would be interested in buying, but I would like to see it just from a technological point..
@zlatko8288
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides All GL1800s have horizontally oposed six cylinder engines. V6 eniges are different. V engines literally look like letter V when looked from the front or back, hence the name.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
@@zlatko8288 I know what engine layout the Honda Goldwings had since 1988 with that flat six cylinder engine..I had one.. I am aware of the differences between a V and a parallel twin, a flat six, a V5 , an in-line six, a V6, a V4, a 360 crank, a 180 crank, a 120 crank, single crank, a single throw two cylinder crank, 45° V twins, 72° V twins, 120° V engines, 180 degree twins V triples. parallel triples, even radial and V-8 engines in motorcycles which Glenn Curtis had a V8 engine in a motorcycle in 1907, and it did over 136 mph .. Glenn Curtis also invented the V twin engine for motorcycles, because motorcycles generally had a single cylinder engine in a bicycle frame. Glenn saw that a second cylinder could be added to the engine and it would still fit in the bicycle frame. He also developed the two spark plugs per cylinder engine for aviation because biplanes had problems taking off from muddy fields. Glenn added a second spark plug to each cylinder and that gave the power boost the planes needed to takeoff from soggy fields.. SO-when i reacted to what turns out to be false info, when buster brown told me that his 2022 goldwing has a V6 engine..i totally missed that at first in browns comment..Buster Brown sent me a dazzling list of features his 2022 goldwing has..He was obviously very pleased with his 2022 goldwing. And that’s good.i did not pay that close attention to every little feature, because most of the list seemed to be about gps & audio equipment..but as i have mentioned in other vids, i’m not really into audio systems. So I really didn’t read his long long list of features on his 2022 Goldwing…i actually removed the radio cluster from my 1st venture, and left it in my storage cabinate for all 16 years i owned that venture..I’m just not interested in radios,speakers, cbs, intercoms,cd players,blue tooth,ect.. I’m only interested in hearing my engine. Like Dracula said, “what music they make “ I never listen to audio stuff while riding ..so I missed when he included that his 2022 has a V-6 … another comment person pointed that out to me -so-I went back and I did see that in busters list..And I thought, wow,…. that was news to me, and I believed it..that flat 6 boxer engine that they’ve had since 1988 has been around for a long time..that engine is getting long in the tooth..34th year of production.. so I didn’t question that buster told me his Goldwing had a V-6 engine. Sounded reasonable.. understandable. Most people don’t know every technical detail about their engines.. I just went back a little while ago and I see that Buster Brown corrected that false statement. Better late than never.. SO-that’s where I got the bad information. I didn’t know that was false information. I just accepted it because the guy actually owns the motorcycle and if he says it has a V-6 engine, so be it. Who am I to question it..
@busterbrown1686
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides Where does it say V6 ? Typo's happen to everyone, just correct me and move on jack ass.I meant 6 cylinder.
@AFRO_KEEN
Жыл бұрын
I think your mentality comes with maturity because I have the same opinions as you.
@mitcwill
Жыл бұрын
Really like the information on this video. My st1300 is pretty difficult to work on as well
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
thanks Lee.. I almost bought an ST 1300 just before I bought this Venture in 2021. I took it for a test drive on a hot day.. it was surprising how much heat comes off of that radiator on to the rider. Great bike. I know they are as reliable as a sledgehammer from what I read. but before I made a decision, this Venture popped up for sale, and that’s what I wanted, either a venture or a Kawasaki voyager four-cylinder.. I had just sold my gold wing and my Moto Guzzi Norge, which I had for 14 years, my fourth motor Guzzi since 1979. I just wanted a simple easy to service Stretched out rolling La-Z-Boy for an all day compfort ride, so I went for the Venture when it showed up on craigslist… and then I bought a Kawasaki Z 400 for those days when it’s too hot to be behind a fairing..
@arkangelnorthman
9 ай бұрын
THIS IS A CHOICE MAKER FOR ME!! THANKS!!
@eastofthegoodones.1391
Жыл бұрын
Hey, just got a 2001 RSV, it’s in pretty decent shape…but the cruise control isn’t working. I haven’t had a chance to start troubleshooting it yet- but you seem like the guy who might know where I should start looking…any tips would be appreciated. Love your videos, thanks for doing them.
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
Cruise control, not working? Start with the switches on the clutch lever, and the brake light switch on the handlebars and for the rear brake lever… You can test the brake levers just by seeing if they make the tail light/brake light turn on and off.. because touching the clutch lever or the brake lever instantly turns the cruise control off while riding.. keep in mind, and the cruise control will not activate hey so you were at 35 mph or 40 mph minimum.. also, make sure your side stand safety switch is working properly. You can test that by simply starting the bike, pull the clutch in, put it in first gear, then put the side stand down. The engine should shut off instantly… The rocker switch on the dashboard just above the handle, bar clamps, when you switch that to on, does your dashboard indicate that the cruise control is on by lighting up the Cruise control dash lights? have the grips on your machine been replaced? Does the grip on the throttle tube rub up against the switch housing or the bar end weight? The throttle must turn freely and Snap shut, when you let go of the throttle.. there should be very little resistance, caused by an improperly installed grip on the throttle tube.. if everything I mentioned seems OK, try this.. you’re on the highway, turn the switch on below the dashboard that turns the cruise control system on.. If the lights come on the dashboard, indicating the system is energized, you know you don’t have a bad fuse… get up to cruising speed above 50mph in 5th gear.. push the set button on the right handlebar and hold it in for about five seconds. Loosening your grip on the throttle, your machine may slow down about five or even 10 miles an hour before the cruise control takes over and picks up speed… Try that a few times, holding the set button in while in Top Gear above 50 mph… The cruise control on my machine did not want to engage and take over at first when I got the machine. Repeated attempts at holding the button in after I went through my checklist, I could feel that the cruise kept trying to engage, but it would drop out after a few seconds, and the resume amber light on the dashboard would turn on. even this year on the first ride that I got a chance to use the cruise control, my cruise control did not want to engage right away, and then, when it did after a couple attempts, it kept dropping out, and I had to try again a few times, until it finally started working.. I have been able to get my cruise control to work, simply by repeat, tries to hold that set button in, and it finally started working. So I didn’t have to dig any deeper… I have no experience with working on cruise control on any of my machines that had cruise control because they always worked. My first Venture, a 1986, the cruise control stopped working one day.. I pulled up to a red light, and a car pulled up beside me, and the driver told me that my brake light was not working. I instantly realized that is why my cruise control is not working. My handlebar perch mounted brake light switch had melted / failed.. that’s the built-in fail safe design that all cruise control systems have.. Good luck, let me know what happens
@eastofthegoodones.1391
Жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides thank you SO much for taking the time to help..I will let you know what I find- thanks again!
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
@@eastofthegoodones.1391 I just made a video because of your question about your cruise control not working. It is on KZitem now, the title of it is, Yamaha venture cruise control, not working check
@94FireGuy
2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoy your Venture but you are really off about the Wing. The rear tire can be changed on the center stand by removing 5 bolts on the rear and the lug nuts and roll it out the back. The rear shock is out and back in on an hour and the air filter is also under an hour. Like I said glad you enjoy the venture but I enjoy have more storage, better ride, 250-280 mile range (43-45mpg)and reliability
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew what you were talking about And I wish you did
@wilsonnichols7088
Жыл бұрын
Right on. I own both and you are speaking from the same real world experience I have.
@edwinkubena9944
2 жыл бұрын
Always liked these will get one
@Gvictor72
2 жыл бұрын
I love my 1991 venture People don't know how good this bikes are .....
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I know how good they are. I had an 86 Venture for 138,000 trouble-free miles. They had the 35 mm carburetors which were the biggest they ever put on a venture. They had the diaphragm type clutch they put on the Vmax. It had an improved second and fifth gear oiling and spacing over the 19 8384 and 85 ventures.The 91 like the 86 has a center stand... It was the fastest venture. Still the fastest, not that that matters to someone interested in a touring machine. I never cared about how fast mine was. I was interested in the Cadillac ride..91 has grease fittings on the rear suspension linkage..91 head improved brake calipers.. there are a few things that I did to my 86 to improve it that could help the 91 also. take the side panels with those vents off to cover the vents on the inside with something to completely block them off in warm weather because they do not prevent the heat from coming out onto your legs in the hot weather. Covering them on the inside with something to keep the air from going through really helps if you can’t get a battery with a removable cap to insert the battery probe. Just take the wire that has the battery probe, cut the wire and install a 2000 ohm resistor. Connect that resistor to a 12 V power source. That will make that monitor display on the dashboard go out. You will satisfy that circuit.. Progressive fork springs and shock Spring transforms that venture into a much lighter feeling better handling machine instantly. It feels like a brand new lighter machine with new progressive brand fork springs and shock spring. It’s not that tough to do. When you do upgrade the springs which are surely sacked out after all these years, you do not need Air in the suspension anymore which probably leaks anyway. You run zero air in your forks and shock with the upgraded springs. fork springs cost about 120 on eBay, and a rear shock spring was about $90 when I bought them for my Goldwing two years ago Progressive brand springs i bought on ebay.. The only complaint I have about my 86 Venture. The fairing rattled a lot going over bumps. I don’t know what it was because I tried to stop that a few times, but it was always a little bit of a rattle compared to the Royal star ventures that don’t have a lot under the fairing the way the older ones do.. but those older ventures 86 through 91 really didn’t have any flaws..One thing I never forgot about those ventures is, they have 11 lock cylinders.So don’t you dare lose your key
@Gvictor72
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for those tips man!
@gtrs4ever
2 жыл бұрын
Had a couple of bikes with fairings…hated doing maintenance on them, know what you mean. Now own Kawasaki Z900RS.
@mattsez2879
2 жыл бұрын
the shifter shaft on a goldwing turns AND lifts or drops to shift. So a floor board requires a heel toe shifter, and it only turns and has a nasty habit of destroying 4th gear and shift forks
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
Matt, I have had to adjust the PAWL spring to RE- center the spring on the post for the shifting mechanism that rotates the shift drum on most motorcycles. I never heard that type of mechanism action you described as having a turn, lift, and drop motion.. I never worked on a Goldwing shift mechanism, so I don’t know. This is something new to me. Maybe that’s the reason Honda is against using floorboards because you have to use heel toe shifters. to tell you the truth, I see many people clacking their bikes into gear using the entire weight of their leg when they shift from neutral into first gear. That seems brutal to me.. that could be why Honda forbids the use of floorboards.. I do not use the heel portion of my shift lever on my royal star venture. I think that you tend to be a little meat fisted using the entire weight of your leg to rotate the shift drum.. it always makes me cringe when I see people attacking their shifters, especially when the bike isn’t even running. I wanna go up to them and smack them.. they just don’t understand that the transmission is a rotary constant mesh transmission. And that the gears must be rotating for the dogs to engage and disengage.. i’m going to buy a used heel toe shifter on eBay to cut the heel section of the shifter off to see if that will work fine. Because I never use it in consideration of the shift mechanism and the shift drum and the shift forks and the shift shaft.. Have you ever replaced bent shift forks? Burnt shift forks from people who rest their foot on that shift lever? I have. Most people have no conception of how that shift mechanism works or how a constant mesh sequential transmission works.. and I don’t expect them to understand how it works. But I would like to tell them that you don’t need to attack your shifter..
The venture looks classic almost looks like a Harley.
@xnihilo64
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with Japanese bikes; the best! Just wish Suzuki still made a Calvacade of some sort.
@guybowers9094
2 жыл бұрын
I was the first to purchase a Cavalcade here when they first came out and it sure was a nice bike. I too wish they did another one
@Diap842IV
2 жыл бұрын
Bought my 86 Cavalcade LX used in 1988 with 6000 miles. Also had a matching trailer by Bushtec. I kept that bike for over 30 years. Just wasn’t interested in other bikes since it had a smooth quiet ride, yet with some rumble character. Had it restored via nationally known guru in Kansas who got everything back to normal. The end came when I was hit from behind on the Interstate at 90,000 miles. I now ride a Vespa 250 for around town and use a cage for freeways. It’s hard to justify $30,000 for today’s best when aside from fuel injection and a little more precise handling, there’s not much else offered than what I had in the old Suzy for $6k.
@xnihilo64
2 жыл бұрын
@@Diap842IV Love hearing stories like this although a sad ending. A bike like that is like the girl you long ago fell in love with only to lose in the end. The memory keeps her alive. Thanks for sharing.
@guybowers9094
2 жыл бұрын
@@xnihilo64 The Cavalcade was a great bike. Goldwing had the 1200 at that time but this was a 1400 and a very smooth ride. I took a trip to Arkansas from Cali with my wife shortly after getting it and the bike performed flawlessly. Also, with me being 5 6" I could touch the ground comfortably due do miss it
@billgraham4630
2 жыл бұрын
I agree Gold wings now dont look like a motorcycle !
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, which ain’t worth much, I think the most beautiful gold wings ever made were the 1500s. I was actually looking for a 1500 Goldwing when I spotted my yellow GL 1800 on craigslist with only 13 K miles on it. I actually didn’t like the color, Pearl yellow, and as time went on, I never changed my mind about the color. I wish it was black or candy apple red or green or glossy primer gray or burnt orange, or pearl white, but not yellow, I don’t care if it is the most visible color to be seen at night.. those 1500 gold wings just looked like a Cadillac. And they came out with the 1800, it sort of looked like a mid grade Chevy by comparison, at least to me..
@dutchglobetrotter6464
2 жыл бұрын
It's a beauty!
@slmayhugh
2 жыл бұрын
That's why you LEARN to do your own work on the Goldwing...to save cash...would rather have the smooth 6 cyl opposed engine as opposed to a v-twin. Venture was a MUCH better bike when they had the V4 engine!!!
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have to learn. I did the work. The issue is, I don’t wanna do it again. Gold wings are perfect. They are also the most difficult to work on motorcycle I ever worked on. Not so much difficult as time consuming…Even following the honda service manual, there are so many little fasteners, screws, rivets, the screws seem to all be different lengths and you can not mix them up. You have to take them off and put them in order. I have a one car garage with a lot of stuff in it including my 58 mga sports car which I have owned since for decades.. I had to start taking things off in order, and finding places in my game room for all that plastic.. I thought I could do a shortcut to get to the rear shock absorber to remove it to upgrade the spring, I started to remove the right saddlebag. I gave up after half an hour, I discovered there is so much wiring and automatic trunk locking and the tail lights were wired in there in the bags, and the harnesses running through the bag, that I gave up on the thought of removing the right saddle bag. It was also tied into the trunk bodywork. Unbelievable. On the flipside, I could have either saddlebag on my venture off of the bike, I am not kidding completely off the machine in less than two minutes. Using electric nut driver, I could probably have them off in under a minute. It’s only four screws.. The saddlebag example pretty much sums up what it’s like to work on a Goldwing versus just about every other motorcycle out there.. I was a motorcycle mechanic at three different dealerships.. my Goldwing was absolutely the most complex to work on motorcycle I have ever seen.. I know how to take the screws out and the little fasteners and take things apart and put them back together without losing anything or without having parts left over. I don’t have to learn how to do that. That doesn’t mean I want to do it.. Gold wings are perfect. They’re more refined than any .. they’re just a pain in the ass to work on. Been there, done that. And I feel bad for people that have to pay $125 an hour which is standard shop labor rate to do simple jobs that Take an hour or two on just about any other motorcycle, but on the Goldwing, sometimes those same jobs take as long as five or six hours
@slmayhugh
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides Understood Jody...yeah getting down to what you need to work on can be a PITA...but doing your own work, you get to know the bike (as you know) and know that things like torque setting are correct. have a great day!
@whendoigettosayfuck
Ай бұрын
Honda is poor designed crap. Yamaha is designed by people with brains. Honda is designed by low intelligence morons
@MrBeracah
11 сағат бұрын
I disagree with you completely, the fee twin has character and great torque. The flat six is the most boring engine ever made, exactly the opposite to what a motorbike engine should be. IMHO
@MeTubeERG
2 жыл бұрын
Love my Yammies. Smart guy.
@gedborthistle7631
8 ай бұрын
Very good review!!! Thanks . Cheers, Downunder Ged Australia. 😊
@Jodyrides
8 ай бұрын
thanks GED from down under. If I was in your shoes, I would be panning for gold with most of my free time. I understand parts of Australia are littered with gold.. I had no idea Australia was so large. It is actually 1.2% larger than the continental 48 United States, not including Alaska… here in the USA, deer collisions are a factor. I have collided with four deer over the years, not counting, close calls, which number probably around 20. My wife has had three deer collisions, each of my two sons has had one .. two of my collisions or while riding motorcycles. 35 mph on my commute to work on my Honda pacific coast, the second was on my BMW K 1200 LT at 70 mph just after sunset .. I was lucky, I did not go down either time, but I quit riding at night, which used to be my favorite time. Favorite time to go if days ate too hot in the summer. Sometimes I would go out at 9 PM, and I would have all the highways to myself, getting home after 2 AM sometimes.. so, are kangaroos a collision hazard in Australia? I noticed that those overland truck trains have serious front bumpers.. Is that because of kangaroos?
@Manonymous108
2 жыл бұрын
My BMW test drive felt like riding a plastic motorcycle, It felt like there was no weight to it and the torque they said it had was extremely overrated.
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I’ll tell you the most plastic feeling motorcycle I had, that was my 1986 Yamaha venture royale. Over every little bump, there was a lot of rattle plastic noise from that fairing. I pulled the fairing apart one day to try to reduce that rattling, I zip tied a lot wires closer together and try to figure out what the heck is loose. I never did figure it out. But that 1986 Yamaha that I put 138,000 trouble-free miles on did rattle.. at the same time it was the fastest of my ventures. The magazines actually clocked them in the 12 second quarter mile times at the drag strip.. that was a nice bike. The only reason I sold it, is because it was 16 years old…
@sagarthapa3765
Жыл бұрын
YES, modern motorcycles are getting too ridiculous to work on and I hate the fact that Yamaha doesn't make the Venture anymore. Kawasaki Voyager 1700 has the air cleaner on the side and the oil is easy peasy but it lacks the V twin which is fine but still wish Yamaha made a Venture
@bebopclownshow
Жыл бұрын
Great review. Was strongly considering a wing as I’m recently doing a lot of 2 up riding. Have a wee strom rn, was considering a mid 2k r1200rt as well. Had a fjr wasn’t a huge fan, old multi, 1050gs. Venture may be worth a very good look
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
Chris thank you you might get a feel for how a venture is to ride if you watch two of my videos. Very short one is entitled Yamaha RS Venture smooth as Goldwing notice in that video that the two trucks that passed me tires are louder than my Venture is at 60 miles an hour. That is just cruising along on a cold day at 60 The other video it might give you a feel for what it’s like to ride adventure is the longer video. It’s my favorite Venture video entitled Yamaha royal star venture long way home.. It is a relaxed ride on a very windy hilly scenic road just north of me.. no music, no graphics, I don’t even talk much. And I don’t / wont appear in any of my videos .. it’s just about motorcycles, not me..
@bebopclownshow
Жыл бұрын
@@Jodyrides thanks Joey. The one thing I wasn’t crazy about with the FJR was the weight being super high up, not a veteran rider by any means, but does the venture feel manageable for your average weekend rider with some track days mixed in between?
@Jodyrides
Жыл бұрын
@@bebopclownshow Bruce if you thought your FJR was heavy, the Venture probably weighs 250 pounds more.. The weight of your bike disappears once you’re moving. If your bike feels too heavy to move around and awkward, you need to work on your technique for moving bikes around. Make sure you don’t have extreme wrist angles, make sure you are holding the bike straight up and down as possible, don’t get yourself in situations that you have to back the bike out of a parking space, when your bike seemed downhill towards the curb. My BMW, and my gold wing both had reverse. I know that I never use reverse on both of those bikes combined more than 10 times. And mostly that was just to see if it worked. I just over the years had the experience to not get into situations that the bike had to be backed up, uphill to get out of a parking space. I always knew after the first few years to back into a space like that.. The reason the ride of a Goldwing or a venture is so nice is because of the weight.. that wait is your friend once you are moving. Did you ever drive a pick up truck that was empty over a bumpy road, and then you put something in the back with some weight, and you drive over the same road and it rides like a Cadillac. That’s what the weight does. When you go over bumps with a light motorcycle, the whole bike gets thrown in the air. But when you ride over those same bumps on a heavy motorcycle, only the wheels move unless it’s really bumpy. But the bike stays stable and the suspension gets a work out with a heavy bike, with a light bike, the whole bike gets banged around on bumpy roads.. that’s why you have to have two motorcycles at all times. Right now I have a Kawasaki Z 400 for when I just want to go out carving back roads, working the gearbox, picking perfect lines, hitting the Apex, setting up each corner to have the highest exit speed, and then getting to the next corner and setting it up. there is not a motorcycle out there that is a do it all. It’s either a sport bike, A standard which is not a sport bike or a touring bike, a sport touring bike, or a touring bike.. that’s why you gotta have at least two, and they have to be completely different from each other. You can’t have two sport bikes, or you can’t have tutoring bikes, because no matter which one you take out for a long ride, after three or four hours, you will always always wish you had taken the other bike that you left at home that day.. that has happened to me many times. I’ll take the big touring bike, and then I’ll hit some twisties in West Virginia, and I wish I had taken my sport bike that I left at home, or I’ll be on the interstate for a couple hundred miles on my sport bike, and I will miss my touring bike..
@jesper1406
6 ай бұрын
I accept everything you say, but I personally think the Star Ventures of this model are ugly. I dislike the wannabe American style, and to me it's just ugly from any angle. I just stick with my GL1500, and I do my own service as well. I have done a few changes to the way the fairing come apart, to make it a lot easier to do the service. The old GL1500 makes me happy every time I ride it...😊
@Jodyrides
6 ай бұрын
what we have here, is a difference of opinion. It’s an old story. Marilyn Monroe or Jane Russell fender, Stratocaster, or gibson les paul Led Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones nineMM or 357 mag Mesa, boogie, or Marshall Ford or Chevy vanilla or chocolate Fried or baked cocaine or heroin Dunlops or Michelin’s tube or solid state Digital or analog vinyl or CD Harley or Indian .025 Beretta or Walther PPK Fiat 500 or citron CV2 daddario or elixir Boones farm or night train Kinison or Dangerfield brembo or EBC heads or tails everyone has a right to their wrong opinion ..
@c2protect
5 ай бұрын
My 06 Venture Royale and Vmax have been amazing. I ride with a group of guys and they all have "NEWER" Gold Wings, Harleys, BMW. they all trailer theirs everywhere. My wife and I ride ours. Because... IT'S A YAMAHA. I didnt buy it to trailer it. My bikes don't come with trailers. Harleys and BMW should. Since I see them on trailers. Esp going to Sturgis.
@maybe5883
10 ай бұрын
I agree your venture is easier to work on. That said, the new gen Goldwing blows the venture away from a handling mad performance perspective.
@Jodyrides
10 ай бұрын
in my video, I did say “ Gold wings are perfect”.. I do all my own work. I used to be a mechanic at three different motorcycle shops. No one has ever touched any of my dozens and dozens of motorcycles except me. I just don’t like working on something as complex and hard to work on ,buried in plastic like the gold wing. I never experienced that degree of complexity on 2 wheels…. The thought of having to do something like replace the shift forks, or the most common failure in motorcycle transmissions, second gear, gives me chills just to think about having to do that job on a Goldwing.. that’s why I bailed out after two years of getting aquainted with my goldwing once i got a sample of the most complex motorcycle ever made available to the public ..The fear of, “what if” was always a concern.. The whole time I owned my Goldwing, I was resigned to the fact, I actually looked into how I go about this, if something happens to that machine, I’m not gonna be able to fix it in the parking lot of a McDonald’s somewhere using the tool kit. I’m just gonna have to rent a trailer and a car with a trailer hitch to get back home or, carry the title with me, and sell it as is to the nearest Honda dealer and fly home.. which ever is cheaper… as far as handling and performance, that you mentioned goes. I am not going to be out there scraping the floorboards on my Venture, or the foot pegs on my Goldwing. If I’m feeling frisky, I will ride my Kawasaki Z 400 that day.. or whatever smaller bike I have at any given time.. is the Goldwing, more refined, faster, better handling than, my Venture, I’d say yes, it’s not roomier or more comfortable than my Venture, and I happen to like floorboards on my big bikes, now that I have experienced them both.. both of them I like much much better than my BMW K 1200 LT that I had that only had 12,000 miles on it when I bought it.. that was my first BMW, and I ain’t never going out on that bmw limb again. Too flawed of a design in many areas. complex is one thing, but flawed is another thing entirely ..I believe they rushed that to market before it was perfected. bMWs sure ain’t what they used to be.. The Goldwing is more refined than the Venture, there’s no question. I like the 2017 and older gold wings more than I like the new ones. That’s a personal preference. I think the 2017 and older gold wings were more luxurious and roomier. I don’t know what Honda‘s goal was with the newest.goldwings .. it’s almost like they were trying to make a bike that would appeal to both , goldwing fans AND ST 1300 fans..AND- automatic scooter fans- I don’t think it has been appealing to the typical writers of the Goldwing in the ST 1300, because the local cycle trader online has many many automatic gold wings brand new 23s for sale here in October 1923. It’s a little late in the season to be stuck with so many motorcycles that those dealers are gonna have to start paying interest on the loan after a year. The interest is onepercent per month on the balance of the loan. That’s about $200 a month per Goldwing interest after the first year. I feel for those dealers…
@wiiliamholcak5873
2 жыл бұрын
I own the same bike love it I won’t buy anything German over rated and expensive to fix
@Jodyrides
2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean about German cars and motorcycles. I don’t know what happened to them. BMW air cooled twins were the standard. But ever since the introduction of the k100 BMW motorcycle in the early 1980s, they went off a cliff and never came back. The most flawed motorcycle I ever owned was a BMW K 1200 LT look at VW.. The only car I ever had that broken half was a VW rabbit with 72,000 miles on it. The antenna hole in the fender leaked into the cab unknown to us and the floor was wet constantly for years. I sold the car to a friend of mine who just wanted something for transportation. And the car broke and a half right behind the front wheels straight down from the windshield leading edge.. look at the I believe it was over $1 billion fine VW got for making its cars appear to be compliant with pollution standards.. my best friend loves BMW convertibles that he buys when they are returned leases. He buys those extended warranties you see advertised on TV. And they do not cover things that are very expensive like convertible tops that won’t go up, broken seat frame for the driver seat, automatic transmission shift levers that can be put into manual mode so you can follow a shift pattern manually, my friend spent over $10,000 to have those things repaired out of pocket because those car warranties he was buying did not cover those items. And he was paying $151 a month for those warranties.. there was a time when something made in Germany was considered top of the line. That was 40 years ago. Now it’s Japan. The best car ever made is the Toyota corolla, according to a worldwide repair garage owner survey.. I don’t know how the federal government allowed my BMW K 1200 LT motorcycle into the country. Every time I used the side stand to park the bike. When I would restart the bike it would pour white smoke out the exhaust pipe. The dealer said that’s harmless and it’s normal.. that bike had quite a few other flaws with the electric/hydraulic ABS brake system, the flawed front end that no other manufacturer has even attempted to copy the design. The final drive gear set failures left and right, just the awkward top heaviness combined with the no field electric servo pump activated ABS front brakes. Just stopping at a stop sign was nerve-racking. That’s the only motorcycle I have dropped since I started riding in 1968. Never dropped any of my three Yamaha ventures, never dropped my GL 1800 Goldwing, or the dozens of other motorcycles I have owned. I don’t know how BMW motorcycles and stays in business. There were 4 Dealers in the Pittsburgh area at one time, now there are zero
@Simulera
Күн бұрын
Everything you said about your Venture applies to my Moto Guzzi 1400 California Tour. Really, every single item you mentioned in comparison to a GL. I love my California. I think it might be even easier to work on than your Yamaha. I agree completely that you can make a bike so complex and removed from sensation that they are not great at all. And after many BMWs over many years, the newer generation ones have lost all appeal to me for many reasons but primarily the company and the customers are adversaries and that is stupid to agree to pay for. If someone likes them, fine. I’m done with them.
@Jodyrides
Күн бұрын
I have just under 200,000 combined miles on the four moto guzzi Machines I have owned since 1980 1979SP 1000 1980 V 50 ll (The one that had electronic ignition that did not start to advance the timing till the RPMs reached 2000 RPMs. Which is the reason they went back to points in 1981 on the V 50.) A 2004 V 11 sport - The most uncomfortable motorcycle in the history of the entire universe.. I tried a Corbin seat, I drilled the upper triple clamp and put 7/8 inch handlebar perch saddles in the triple clamp and installed Honda CB 400 F super bike bars, I put on a fly screen tiny fairing.. I put on Buell ulysses foot pegs, which lowered the foot pegs about 2 inches, so I wasn’t in that crouch position with my knees bent all the way constantly.. I gave up, there is no way to civilize that machine riding position. only the people that can tell the difference between regular concrete and rebar reinforced concrete can tell the difference in the suspension settings on those Ohlin suspensions..) A 2007 Norge/ 1300 GT.. two valve engine. The nicest most comfortable of all of my Guzy‘s. all of them had one thing in common, those electrical components.. Oil sending unit failures, that is quite a surprise when you’re cruising along on the interstate at 80 miles an hour alone at night, and your oil pressure light comes on. Pull over, check the oil, pull the valve, cover off and start the engine to see if you have oil flow… I had the oil pressure sending unit fell on three of my four Guzy’s. they also overloaded some of their relays. The start relay was a problem on my V 11 sport and my Norge. That really has 8 A of draw on it when you turn the key on before you even touch the starter and it is only a 10 amp relay… those were minor, I’m not gonna call them problems, I’m gonna call them “quirks” , Quirks are problems you have to deal with that aren’t really big problems, but they occur from time to time.. I never had a mechanical breakdown, I never had to replace any engine components, just throttle cables on my SP 1000 because they were looking a bit past it. So I bought new cables which were too long on the cable internals. So I had to cut them and put silver solder ball ends on them myself. You have to use hi silver content, Solder or the ball will pull off. You can’t use just pure lead. I replaced the universal joint in my SP 10402000 miles when I pulled the drive shaft to lube the splines because there was a bit of rust coming out of one of the caps on the U joint, I didn’t want to roadside failure, so I just threw a new one in. Other than that, just gaskets filters tires .. One little tip for you when I was a Honda mechanic at a Honda motorcycle dealership. A bulletin came from Japan about head gaskets and base gaskets and gaskets in general on Hondas. The bulletin told the service departments to buy a can of rust, oleum, silver aluminum paint, a can that you open with a screwdriver and put a brush in, not a spray can any time you are replacing a paper, dry gasket, clean both metal surfaces, get a stick or a screwdriver and scrape the goo paste from the bottom of the paint can without stirring or shaking the can, because the only thing you want is that thick paste at the bottom of the can apply that gout to the dry gasket on both sides and put the gasket in place wet and putting the engine back up. Not only will that gasket not stick to either surface, but you will be able to reuse that gasket over and over.. that is what I have been doing with my Moto Guzzi valve cover gaskets for decades. I still have the rust oleum quart cam of Silver aluminum paint that I bought in 1974. That’s what I use on my valve, cover gaskets, and I have never had to buy a second set. This is good to know on a Guzzi, because every time I pull the plug to drain the oil, I would check the valves, which, as you know, it takes about 30 minutes if that once you have the plugs out.. I really liked my Norge. I thought it was one of the best looking motorcycles on the planet, it handled well, it had all the torque I loved., it was a six speed, I loved the clutch chatter. Single-sided, swingarm, three speed, heated grips, onboard trip, computer, electric windshield, center stand, it was fantastic. But all of my Moto Guzzi.’s seem to be made for someone no taller than 5‘8“. It was just too much of a bend in my leg on all those machines, especially the V 11 sport. After two hours behind bars on my Norge, I needed to get off and take a walk. you are correct about Guzy being even easier to work on Find My Venture to a point.. valve adjustment check on a Gucci. I think it’s around 3500 miles or less, on my Venture it’s every 26,000 miles. And when I checked the valves at 30,000 miles, none of them were out of spec.. right now I have my eyes open always I’m looking for a Quattro..or a breva 1100.. I still have a case of the I ride 10 W 60 motor oil that’s $18 a quart , specified by the owners manual of my Norge.. guzy makes a very dependable machine. They don’t make them to a price, they make them the way they should be made, and raise the price if needed.. One other little thing about them. They can be difficult to resell. Most people never even heard of them. There were three dealers within two hours of my home here in Western Pennsylvania, they’re all gone… So are the BMW dealers that were within an hour of my home, not that I would ever buy another BMW.. one K1200 LT was enough.. I hit a deer at 70 miles an hour on that machine. The machine never moved. $5500 damage, I just coasted to a stop. I still have a mark on my right calf, where the deer hoof whipped around my bike when I hit it right in the rib cage.. that was not my first deer collusion, and not my first deer collision by motorcycle either I don’t ride at night anymore or during rut season in November/December.. I still love moto guzzi . even if they are not Japanese, perfect. One thing about a Guzzi.. that a Japanese motorcycle does not have, and will never have. A moto guzzi has a soul.. they are a living, breathing thing with a pulse. But they are not for everyone. You have to be able to twirl the wrenches to do those little adjustments and chicks… I went to the moto guzzi breva owners rallies in new Cumberland, West Virginia from 1980 open till the virus shut everything down. I was there in 1987 when there were almost 600 Guzy is registered at that rally. I rode down to that site last year in 2023 on memorial day weekend, as usual, and only one other moto guzzi showed up.. that virus from China sure shut that down, along with tons of other things., I found a used Stelvio on the other side of Pittsburgh a few years ago. It looked great in the pictures. But when I got there, it had apparently never been out of the weather, all the plastic and rubber was faded and cracking, all of the non-stainless hardware had rust on it.. it led a neglected, orphan life. I didn’t buy it. that is one thing I have noticed about the motor Guzzi owners more than any other brand. Their motorcycles look like they have been ridden , and many of them look like they have never been washed. They look like rented mules, which is a testimonial for just how durable they are. They are as solid and as reliable as a sledgehammer… they’re not necessarily built for lookin, as much as they are built for ridin..
@Simulera
Күн бұрын
@@Jodyrides Very cool. If you find a lightly used 1400 California Tour give a try. It’s a Guzzi for sure but very changed from the 1100 and, compared to the original police bike models, well, a lot of water under the bridge for sure. Some people don’t seem to like them as much but I think it’s a spectacular air cooled engine with just enough electronics to make it run better. There are the inevitable weirdnesses waiting of course. The new V7 850 (confusing they named it that) is also very sweet. But now they have brought out a 2025 water cooled bike. Inevitable but I can’t help think it’s a little sad. Hopefully it’s wonderful. I was really glad to hear of all that mechanical experience; much more than I have, and thanks for the gasket hint! I hope to never need it and also sort of want to try it simultaneously! Cheers.
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