The Cleveland chipper I bought after seeing the chipper videos may be the biggest weapon in my bag in 35+ years! Unreal results! Point and shoot! Love it.
@johnnysplibsplab
2 жыл бұрын
Would love a indoor/outdoor wedge video. Especially covering half/3quarter/full distances. Great channel (best golf one by a million miles)
@billt888
2 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos. Power lofts, shafts low kick high kick , A shafts senior or regular, forged hollow-body clubs , 3 or 4 wood ,wedges steel or graphite just a few ideas.
@massey8
2 жыл бұрын
Mark I 100% agree with everything you’ve said here. I was fit for irons about 3 years ago and nothing was mentioned regarding the difference between indoors and outdoors. The issue I see is that I don’t see any services in the north west that offer this unbiased, teaching and fitting lessons. So as a consumer I don’t believe we have enough options (or certainly I’ve not seen them advertised in the north west).
@ohiomoto
2 жыл бұрын
I had a gap test years ago and put a note on my phone to help me with clubbing. I've been missing greens short ever since!!
@johnwallace520
2 жыл бұрын
I was recently fitted for my Mizuno 225's. I don't tend to rely on the figures I see indoor at the fitting. I hit my own clubs to get a base line and then hit various head and shaft options and could compare the results, feel etc between my original clubs and the new ones I was testing. On the course, I have a pretty good idea of how far I can hit my irons and I do, quite often go one club stronger as you recommend Mark. We Deserve Better. Off the mats at the driving range I often hit up to 10yds longer once I am in to the groove but I know that is very hard to replicate on the course.
@billm4149
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please; do show the wedge testing. Really appreciate the education!
@MarkCrossfield
2 жыл бұрын
On it. 👍👍
@waynetrinier4654
2 жыл бұрын
Never been fitted but I did take lessons indoors a few years ago. When spring finally rolled around the difference between mats and turf results were shocking.
@canyonaro
2 жыл бұрын
I despise mats and always have. Practicing on ranges with mats will also screw up your swing.
@DominickArchitects
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Such good information. I love that you are challenging the accepted marketing hype and focusing on what's best for golfers. Keep up the good work.
@MarkCrossfield
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick someone has to on planter YT silly videos.
@MarkCrossfield
2 жыл бұрын
Planet
@peterblain421
2 жыл бұрын
Great video got my set of p790 custom fitted. I think your 100%right on distances
@jamesdenny5078
2 жыл бұрын
Ive got a set of Taylormade P790s with Dynamic Gold X100 shafts. What i tend to notice is, if you go out onto the course on bare lies or hardpan type lies where the course is firm, dry and bouncy, the clubs feel terrible and perform badly. And this HAS to be because you hit the ball low on the clubface in a way you never would from either a lush lie or tee peg, OR crucially from the perfect surface of a soft mat. Im not complaining as my distances are fine. I played a round on monday and hit the ball plenty far enough. 6 iron goes 185, 7 iron right around 170, and an 8 iron can be a nice 155-160 club, so thats fine. But it IS noticeable now performance does suffer across different strikes on the face.
@loudhayler
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and advice Mr Crossfield. I needed some new irons. I went to a large retailer to try to spend an hour on the range (over a few sessions) with each of my short listed clubs to get a proper feel for them prior to any fitting. They literally laughed at me.. "that's the worst possible way to do it...you need to get fitted... we can do it now...". I. did not go ahead but found a fitting centre. Had a one off fitting session of an hour and a quarter. Rapid process of whittling down all the irons on offer. Minimal time for me to get a feel for them both physically and mentally. It was a huge waste of money. I was sold the most expensive irons, which I then got rid of after a year.
@trentdavis9216
2 жыл бұрын
I started golfing at the end of last summer (July) and purchased Sim 2 Max irons off the rack..bought into the distance, “forgiveness”, wanting Taylormade because a lot of people rave about the brand, and wasn’t properly fitted. This was such a waste of money unfortunately…not being properly fitted and just buying clubs off the rack. I got a lot better over the fall and am currently at a 12.1 handicap. My goal is to be single digits before the end of the year. I was properly fitted and went with Titleist T200s and hit them like a dream. Getting fitted outside is so important! The feel, how the club looks, and how confident you are to make the next golf shot makes such a big difference. Thanks for such an educational video, love everything you put out!
@michaelreilly5888
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have had five iron sets fitted in the past dozen years but have focused more on a consistent pattern, as a fitting outcome rather than distance, look at setup, spin, and feel (in approximately that order of importance). I am also more concerned about gapping within the set and the potential for any random hot spots one may encounter in some irons. For this reason, I am carful to select the range of products to be considered and try not to listen much to the fitters comments about distance improvement options available. I have changed to graphite shafts during the last dozen or so years due to my ever-increasing age (73) and the quality of graphite shafts. The result is that I have gained a little distance my irons without losing quality of strike and consistency.
@BuffaloNickel9
2 жыл бұрын
What are the heaviest graphite shafts out there, just out of curiosity? I'd be open to graphite but I absolutely can't have anything that's less than 110 or 105. I don't think they make any graphite that heavy? huh
@minno234
Жыл бұрын
5 sets in 12 years? Did you finally find some you liked?
@michaelreilly5888
Жыл бұрын
@@minno234 Of course! Some worked out well and some not so much. I am currently gaming a set of PING i210s that I was fitted for in mid-2019. They have been solid. Nonetheless, they are getting a bit long in the tooth so I'll likely trade them in for a new set of fitted irons later this spring.
@bradscoble7078
2 жыл бұрын
I watched this video yesterday. I thought good info but I’m not buying new irons. But I let that indoor outdoor soak in. I knew my indoor numbers to be a number. But I applied the club difference idea and shot the lowest round ever today. Your channel has so much actual golf help in it. Thank you for putting this content out for free. You and lockey thank you thank you
@iantowers7476
2 жыл бұрын
Got fit for T100s' 2 years ago. Tried numerous clubs before hand and decided on model I wanted based on feel and looks. The fitting just focused on finding the right shaft, again based on feel
@cburton12387
2 жыл бұрын
I've said this before but..... This is your best video to date..I've watched you for YEARS and this is just fantastic content. You and Coach together is magic
@ANtA585
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. It would be great to see the difference with the wedge. WE DESERVE BETTER
@bennycase8473
2 жыл бұрын
We deserve better! Thanks Mark!
@barryemery16
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ve had 3 custom fits for irons, all of them Ping and have been happy with all 3 sets. I’m 6’2” and have 1/4” longer than standard and white dot (3 deg upright). I really can’t see me ever moving away from Ping as a manufacturer, Love the G series as they are so forgiving. I must admit, the same PGA Pro has fitted my irons each time and has always offered other manufacturers irons for me to try, however, I did get the chance to play at Karsten Lakes, Gainsborough, and had my irons checked by Ping and they were spot on so have trusted the clubs and Pro ever since.
@edwinlambley2801
2 жыл бұрын
Ping are so on top of the game. I have been to Gainsborough a few times for fitting and every time they are bang on. After sales for checking loft/lie second to none. No marketing crap they just make very very good clubs.
@davidfinn9828
2 жыл бұрын
Have to agree ping make the best irons always spot on on speck , have had callaway ,taylormade and both sets were not as per speck , have my own loft and lie machine so could tweek them , but the ping blueprint were spot on speck 👍
@canyonaro
2 жыл бұрын
I don't currently play them but their reputation is earned. I have all my clubs checked for loft & lie and they're NEVER right from anyone other than Ping. Most are close but it's not unusual to have one or two clubs way out. I had a gapping problem with new PXGs that turned out to be caused by the eight iron being 2 degrees weaker than spec. 🤬
@jeffcalhoun796
2 жыл бұрын
Mark I’ve done this same kind of testing just on the driving range, the one closest to me has you hitting on mats, however, you can walk 3 feet forward and drop your ball on fairway cut grass. I’ll hit 5 shots with my 7 iron on the mat, then 5 shots on the grass, and my average carry is 10-13 yards shorter on the grass. So, knowing this, when I do warmups before play, I’ll always hit my last few shots with the clubs I want to warm up with on the grass, so I have a better idea of my carry distances for that round. Good stuff!!
@stevecernuto740
2 жыл бұрын
Makes me feel better about my recent fit. The fitter explained the the spin would be higher and distance would be less outside. I use my experience from playing to determine my club’s distance.
@peterreed4827
2 жыл бұрын
Gladly I have watched your videos for years, so when I got fitted i just tested for feel and looks (what suited my eye etc) knowing that a loft is a loft and my speed is my speed. Ended up with Srixon Z585. "WE DESERVE BETTER"
@rightsidebend
2 жыл бұрын
Easily the best information / knowledge out of all the tube golfers. Great job chaps.
@SoapyD
2 жыл бұрын
Best video ever! I have been telling people this forever. I have buddies that get fitted for driver and hit it 300 yards indoors and can’t hit it 260 outdoors.
@rufussthoo4083
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, definitely would like to see how the wedge differs in-door and out. Am curious too if there is more or less difference in longer clubs like a 4 iron. Also, what do different soles do - wide vs narrow, V-sole vs not, pre-worn leading edge vs 'sharp' leading edge, etc. There's 5 more videos for you Mark 😉😄
@marymckenna5524
2 жыл бұрын
I did not know this and am VERY happy to learn it. Eventually will get fitted and will keep this in mind.
@stephenfletcher7649
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark and Coach in Oz most of the golf companies do fitting days out doors, giving you a chance to try different clubs shafts at the same time. When I had my fitting @ 66 in 2016 I was looking to get a set of ap2’s. But ended up with Ap1’s as the dispersion was much more controllable for me. As an 18 handicap golfer it made more confident that their recommendations for me ap1 was correct. The fitting also used track man so I could see both results data and what I saw in flight and distances. Thanks for all your content keep it up..Fletch from down under.
@scuddermead
2 жыл бұрын
This was a very good segment! Thanks for doing it. Personally, as I'm an older player, I have a very slow swing speed and it's sometimes embarrassing how short I am on some shots. It really is a big difference off the mat vs. off the grass!
@guyr7351
2 жыл бұрын
There is another issue few mention, off mats your slightly heavy shots / poorer strikes can still show a decent result where on grass it might only go 50 yards or less. Never mind impact transmitted into fingers when playing off mats
@torlefborsting471
2 жыл бұрын
I have always accepted that knowing yourself, your game, and your tendencies is the most important part of deciding about equipment. I have only been professionally fitted once and have subsequently “fitted” myself based on what i know about my game on the course. I still use those original fitted clubs from time to time but they work for me because i have paid attention to my tendencies and don’t expect miracles. I love that you address this constantly. Golfers cannot hear about this enough. Big fan!!!
@davidm7031
2 жыл бұрын
Great Video…. I was on a GC2 indoor recently spinning a 7 iron at around 3500. The following weekend my first approach was a 6 iron that stopped 2ft from the pitch mark on a dry green!! I also think I’m shallower indoors as I don’t want to hit the ground whereas on the course I often take decent divots. The more of these videos I watch, the more I believe fittings really need to be looked at.
@zt2790
2 жыл бұрын
We deserve better. Great video sir! I've experienced this first hand when I was fit at a "premier" fitting location...indoors. Paid a ridiculous premium for the set. 2 years later when it was time to replace the irons, I went to my local golf shop, took 4 different demo 7-irons, and spent 3 hours on course, testing them in real situations. Saved hundreds, and was much more confident with the purchase. Would LOVE to see wedges! Cheers
@samfowler9018
2 жыл бұрын
As a fitter myself I totally agree with pretty much everything mark has laid out. The classic semi chunk off a mat that flies 20 yards past a normal shot is a very real thing. In my view irons should pretty much never be fit for distance. There’s a reason you get 8 of them in a set. You should be fitting for consistency of strike, trajectory and dispersion.
@paulmoger8961
2 жыл бұрын
I never thought about that last sentence you just stated, which makes perfect sense. Cheers!
@Crgx22r7
2 жыл бұрын
Love the video, and I'd love to see the wedge one! I spent more time this off season indoors on simulators then ever before and dialed in my distances quite a bit, but I'm definitely finding that as a rule of thumb, I basically always need to go at least 1 club higher outside then I'd think.
@guyr7351
2 жыл бұрын
I think this is because off mats slightly miss hit shots go better. A heavy shot on grass / soft ground goes no where.
@keithburton2791
2 жыл бұрын
I have just had an iron fitting at silvermere. I can say it was an excellent experience they made me hit my own clubs and then gave me a range of alternative clubs to cross-reference against my own. Very good experience. Bad news is waiting 2 months to get the new clubs.
@robbiles
2 жыл бұрын
We Deserve Better. I'm soon to go and get fit for a new set of irons. Will definitely have this info in the back of my mind while doing so.
@james123j1
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on in your analysis, plus many fittings use wet range balls which spin even less and therefore go even further…
@suntzuvii1154
2 жыл бұрын
Good vid! So glad, that after one of your older videos, some 2 years back, I got myself fitted for how the club feels and swings, and not for distance ^^
@johnkapinos3221
2 жыл бұрын
I agree that indoor vs outdoor performance will vary but would you agree that the indoor fitting with GC4 will provide value in comparing performance of different clubs you’re testing against your current club? If the spin, launch and distance are all off by 5% from outdoor it will still show you which club is giving best relative distance and dispersion. Perhaps the club fitting should come with that disclaimer.
@johnpker69
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the wedge video, I have had a golf coach for about 6 months and have recently asked them to help me with some gapping issues around the 200 yard mark. He instantly brought us to outdoor range and started working there. It is really appreciated when people who know golf help and teach instead of selling.
@prestondaniel5932
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark and Coach Lockey! Great insights. We deserve better.
@alanduncan9204
2 жыл бұрын
34 Degree 7 iron when I tested in the shop. I was getting 170+yds even out to 179 with bit of roll. On the course on a lush wet lie it will go max 155 and be very lucky to go further at all because the spin is much higher and it will stick on a wet green.
@rhize797
2 жыл бұрын
The moisture actually takes spin away so it is most likely the delivery causing more spin. Temperature, humidity and altitude also make a significant difference.A lot of the time people don't respect a headwind if it's less than 5 mph but that will still take off around a half club/club of distance and obviously if the delivery causes more spin then it will exaggerate it. If the launch monitor set to 500ft above sea level then that will make the ball go about 10-15% further through the air than if you play at sea level.
@jezswallow9801
2 жыл бұрын
Ive thought it but you've just uncovered what my gut feeling was! Great Vlog 😁
@seanconnors7639
2 жыл бұрын
We deserve better! Love to see you do the entire bag and what is the difference between indoor and outdoor numbers Also, how much does teeing up help in terms of numbers
@WilliamWright-hf8ob
2 жыл бұрын
I always hated hitting indoors so I haven't for probably 10 years , I found it almost useless for testing clubs .You get a altered sense of sound , feel , turf interaction and distances caused by the reduced spin rates . I think where the indoor hitting helps is keeping your golf muscles in shape over the winter with the snow on the ground ( I'm in Canada ) and working on swing changes and not much else . I agree that if your testing drivers its going to compare them head to head just fine indoors but Its always better outdoors to see how wind effects flight etc . Love the videos Mr. Mark , nice job !!!!
@richardllewellyn2633
2 жыл бұрын
This makes perfect sense now. Years ago got custom fit for some Orka irons and they were a club different on the course to the fit
@averynichols8035
2 жыл бұрын
I'm ready for some new clubs. I need to update my set. Cheers guys!
@TomH001
2 жыл бұрын
I've had a custom fitting and was trying out the Taylormade P730's , Indoor I was hitting the 6-iron 185 meters ... It was about a club difference from my "normal" . I like that you mentioned the human element to golf , because intention and feel really does influence people in different ways... I now game the Titleist 718MB's and I love being able to hit different speeds and heights / shapes , even though they would have never come out as the longest or the best fit in an indoor fitting
@robwigginton4846
2 жыл бұрын
Having a fitting on Monday am newish to golf so very informative. Thanks
@MattSwanson
2 жыл бұрын
Really grateful for this! I've started playing (at least) a club longer when I actually play than what my "numbers" tell me from mats, and never really understood why I was CONSTANTLY so much shorter than I was off what my Swing Caddie (and that's not even a "fancy" GC Quad) was telling me. For about the first month, it hurt my feelings that I was suddenly "shorter" in real life, lol - and then I started scoring better and was like, well....who cares if my 7-iron only goes 170 instead of 180 IF IT LANDS ME ON THE GREEN?! :) Great stuff, Mark. Thanks again!
@andrewgmilne
2 жыл бұрын
Great Video - What you say around gap testing is so true. I did a gap test and had it printed out to have with me when I play so that I can confirm distances before playing. BUT as you say there is such a difference in REAL LIFE that it is difficult to use in actual play. This season I have bought the Garmin CT10’s and am planing to use there stats to build a different picture - just need to get my watch back from Garmin after a battery problem…. So much to think about!
@kellydorsey4238
2 жыл бұрын
Great video Mark, we do deserve better. I have been fitted for every club but one in my bag. I used to get a free fitting each year at Golftec (where I was taking lessons, inside with launch monitors) and at my local range (outside). I would start with my coach inside and then go to the outside fitting and see if it held true. I had to ignore the distance and look at dispersion and shot shape to make the decision. I did buy the irons that were recommended inside and out, but stayed with my existing driver because there really wasn't a difference with the new driver outside.
@kleijnda
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I have a different problem with an inside studio; for some reason I find it very difficult to swing consistently. It must be something auditory/visually, I feel cramped inside a studio and lose my sense of time and place inside.
@jonathanthomason7896
2 жыл бұрын
We deserve better. That's the cleanest I've ever seen your 8 iron brah.
@Cornish_Maid
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had fittings, but your right, it’s a sales process, no explanation of difference in distance. PS, I hit further outdoors compared to in a Simulator.
@ThorinOakenshieldGSD2023
2 жыл бұрын
Yes had my irons custom fit. High handicapper went with Ping G425, expect for wedges which are Cleaveland CBX2.
@lancesedevie548
2 жыл бұрын
Totally bought a Cleveland chipper because of your videos. If it makes the game easier I’ll try it.
@samogborne4313
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I’ve got a deep pile hitting mat in my home simulator set up and I get really high spin on my irons and find I’m almost a club longer off of grass, so the opposite of what you are seeing
@simonsaunders1730
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve bought and sold a lot of secondhand clubs - normally for a wee profit - however, found my favourites now. So not fitted, but a lot of on course testing and great real-world gapping.
@kevinmcarthur2389
2 жыл бұрын
I bought in 2020 and now play Mizuno 921 Forged, fitted on just hitting a 7 iron, never again all my yard gaps are all over the place. Just like you mentioned we focus on the distance and really not the average carry. I wish I had kept my Adams CMBs knew them inside out.
@BSKTCreation
2 жыл бұрын
The first thing I said to the fitter on my current set was "I don't care about hitting long, I need accuracy." Right away this put the fitter in a different mindset, instead of offering sets based on distance we spoke mostly on sets that give better grouping, gapping, shot shape, spin etc. I also tried to limit my effort in each shot during the fit as to not blow out the numbers. Was my fit perfect? Not even close, I made a lot of errors looking back at it, but I think I did a fair job considering my experience levels at getting fit. Next time I hope to do a better job.
@jakelindsay6251
2 жыл бұрын
Flightscope has something called the Environmental Optimizer which allows us to change altitude, humidity, wind speed and direction, and temperature. It's an improvement but still not perfect as you demonstrated. There's rarely a flat lie. Indoor turf is not the same as real grass. And there's a very big difference between trying to hit targets than just whacking ball after ball after ball and deleting shots in order to create a narrative. As always, excellent video, Mark and Coach.
@jjwong3
2 жыл бұрын
I have heard of this but don’t really know how each club changes from indoors to outdoor. Yes, please show how wedges and others change. Great video!
@keith1817
2 жыл бұрын
I had a fitting for my mizuno irons a few years ago and the fitter did say that there would be a difference in the numbers indoor/outdoors. But I was fortunate that the fitter was a former colleague and had played with me a few times and knew where my numbers outdoors already were.
@alankasjan6488
2 жыл бұрын
My current irons I had fitted outside, now I can only find fitters that are inside only. After seeing this I'm staying with my current irons. Thinking about this issue, maybe the only way around this is to take my current irons to the fitting and compare results, which is difficult today with the new irons and their stronger lofts. Love to see woods and hybrids on another video.
@johnshaw2858
2 жыл бұрын
I have been for a fitting. I used it to try lots of different irons. After getting the irons I then gapped them myself with the use of a GC quad. I feel if you are a good player it is not an issue. I think before you go you should go for a few lessons to make sure your swing is as best as it can be.
@chrisbeeler4139
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I’ve been fitted at a couple facilities iron wise. Each time it has come down to a different shaft, my swing varies from day to day. I’m a 10hc.
@graemefinlayson2032
2 жыл бұрын
Great advice. Take one of your current clubs to the fitting. Hit it first AND last. Hit the new clubs in between. See if they can better your existing equipment. (bet they don't!) Better to go to a fitting at your course and compare there.
@varthdader12
2 жыл бұрын
@Mark Crossfield Would be interested to see hybrids or even fairway woods contrasting between indoor/real world spin and distance. Thinking of fitting gaps like Coach mentioned at the high end of the bag and getting that dialed in just using indoor data versus what translates to the course. Love the channel! Cheers
@shaynesvenson8628
2 жыл бұрын
Wow never figured the stats would be so different, a great insight to the facts, thanks Mark and Lochy
@ashtonbarrell2839
2 жыл бұрын
We deserve better! Never been custom fit, high handicap lefty playing a set of ping I3 blades i picked up used many years ago.
@brianmccool9728
2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video!! We deserve better!
@gregbarthjr9621
2 жыл бұрын
"We deserve better" Another great Video Mark. Keep up the great work
@jmac2744
2 жыл бұрын
I was fitted for PXG irons last year. The fitter had me bring my clubs which I hit first after warming up. We recorded the data then I hit the PXG irons. He told me he would not try to sell me anything that did not outperform my old clubs. This was my first ever fitting and would recommend this approach for all your future fittings.
@MartijnMoretEU
2 жыл бұрын
Just had my first fitting, play just above 100. Was nervous, but happy with the results
@neilwicks5709
2 жыл бұрын
I had a fitting last year and was given good advise. the problem I now see is when pro shop only stock certain brands. Although I like my Pings, after trying Callaway and srixon I will keep trying other brands over the next few years before purchasing my next set and checking if they are suitable to my current game.
@peterknappe6144
2 жыл бұрын
Did not know about this and was not told this during my fitting. But I do agree that driver seems closer indoor versus outdoor versus irons.
@uwrossl
2 жыл бұрын
I got my first full fitting a couple years ago. Fitting was outdoors on grass with True Spec. Only way to do it if you can. Nothing during my iron fitting was about distance...it was all about dispersion and consistency. I'd be surprised if the majority of fitting outlets are selling irons solely based off distance. Might happen more with driver fittings where distance is seen as paramount but even my driver fitting came down to a combination of distance and dispersion. I had no surprises when my clubs came in and got them to the course other than the fact that my game massively improved and I had a club in the bag for every distance and every shot that came up. Maybe it's because my fitting was outdoors off grass. I know it made a big difference on what irons and wedges I got fit into based off turf interaction.
@jerrystoopack72
2 жыл бұрын
Love the reality check this presentation gives us. Just as a follow up to the fitting question- can the equipment be tweaked to maximize the results and thereby influence the choice of products? I was fortunate a few years ago to find an honest fitter and wound up purchasing a set of Wilson D350 irons. All I heard from anybody was "nobody plays Wilson anymore!!" But they work for me. Still, as other commenters have said, age, swing speed, fitness affect whatever equipment's results. Really liked the video- more, more, more.
@markboreham5258
2 жыл бұрын
You guys just have way to much fun!!
@industrialpalletworx3548
2 жыл бұрын
I love this video Mark. I find myself at times wondering how it's possible my clubhead speed is that of the PGA Tour yet my distances are near what you see other KZitemrs reach. It has left me scratching my head and wondering what am I missing or doing wrong. This video definitely shed some light on that fact. I have my gapping and distances established outside on my Mevo. I verify them with my laser range finder. When I practice at the range I'm always shooting distances to verify how far I'm hitting particular clubs. This is a simple warm up routine that I use and can be done relatively quickly before going to play. I've never been fit before, I have a hard time justifying the amount of money needed to purchase a custom fit set. I do understand based on my speed and distances that I'm sure I would most certainly benefit. I currently play Mizuno JPX919 irons in a Dynamic Gold 105 S300 shaft. After loads of video I do think these shafts are too soft. As I'm in the delivery phase of the swing I have a huge amount of shaft lag and a significant amount of unloading of the shaft after impact. This can most certainly indicate a miss left as I'm a right hander.
@BorthwickCraig
2 жыл бұрын
We deserve better, I just don’t know where to get that from? I am a new golfer, started in October last year and bought my irons 2nd hand off golf bidder(Callaway X20). I went for lessons regularly at the start and now once a month. My handicap is 24 and I have said to myself once I get to an 18 I can get new fitted irons but watching this I feel I will just be taken advantage of.
@IntrepidGolfers
2 жыл бұрын
I got fitted for a set of irons 3 years back and my biggest regret was not going with my own feel for shaft. Instead I was recommended c taper lite 110g. I lost my swing completely. I ended up adding tungsten powder 10g down the shaft to make them playable for me. I have switched to an old set of mp32s and I just love them. When I got fitted for a driver the guy said your mishits are going the same distance as if that was a positive.. I mean I personally prefer my miss hits to be short and not deeper into the trouble.
@stephencostello5296
2 жыл бұрын
You just described exactly what happened to me at a custom fit and my disappointment when I got on the course! Feel like I was mugged now!
@Matthew-88
2 жыл бұрын
I just had a custom fit for a new set of irons. My coach fitted me and i focused on look and feel. Great video very interesting
@iantowers7476
2 жыл бұрын
Would be very interested to see the wedge version. I did a wedge matrix indoors and found that from 100yds in I am so more accurate now
@philreid6581
2 жыл бұрын
We deserve better!! Yes please to wedge video comparison 👍
@damianhandley8851
2 жыл бұрын
To see the difference in wedges inside to outside would be so useful ,👍
@joshleech8146
2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to keep saying this: Crossfield is the absolute best content for true golfers. A friend of mine asked why others had more subscribers. My answer was that more people shop at Walmart than Nordstrom. Does that mean Walmart is better quality?
@rodgalilee7946
2 жыл бұрын
"We deserve better " a great video thanks
@leslondon2170
3 ай бұрын
So honest u guys. Many thx Always great content
@crishi7459
2 жыл бұрын
I use a Fiberbuilt mat in my sim & my distances translate perfectly to the course. I don't take my LM to the course but spin seems very close as well.
@orthoagnostic3364
2 жыл бұрын
we deserve better sir... I find it so difficult to hit in a bay into a screen and feel as though I am in anyway approaching my swing on a course... waiting for that GC Quad price to come down to the price of courtside lakers tix...
@Athon08
2 жыл бұрын
Mark you said it at the end I was thinking about Driver. I think the only fitting that will be just about spot on indoor vs outdoor would be driver because no interaction with the ground
@johnnywestall-eyre4860
2 жыл бұрын
Great video again Mark and Coach Yes I’ve been fit for my Cobra F9s, bought em cos I could hit them straight! Never rely on a bloke I just met to give me data, Arccos is my friend on gapping and fitting. Cheers boys
@billwallenstein3387
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I’ve known this for years. I see 10 or 12 yds more indoors with a monitor than I really carry on real grass on the golf course. It’s extremely important to know your real carry numbers.
@scottlang7130
2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy this video came up today. I literally just left an indoor trackman facility and was worried how extremely low my backspin numbers looked. Like my 9 iron was spinning around 6000ish. But if I’m like you, and gain about 2,000 rpm outdoors. That changes everything
@davidallen3490
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am definitely interested in learning how wedges perform indoor v. outdoor.
@robbob1436
2 жыл бұрын
I DEFO didnt know this. Makes sense and will make me look at club sales differently 4 Sure Thanks
@scottamolinari
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I've been wondering about this forever. I was like, geez, how are these numbers a thing watching videos of indoor club tests (irons). Are newer irons that much better? I never went and got a new set because of it (and in Germany, I don't have a club fitter in my area where I live, maybe a good things???). So, I just left the question in my head and keep on using my older irons This video answers that open question (to a point). Thanks again.
@davidtallon428
2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. Based on this is it worth always hitting your current clubs first to give you a bench mark in that environment in a fitting, rather than comparing to your remembered gaming numbers?
@paulmoger8961
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Take your current, équivalent club(s) to the one(s) you want to buy and compare like for like, in the same conditions. The data should be reliable in that case I would expect.
@canyonaro
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulmoger8961 I did this in a PXG fitting and the distance numbers for my gamer were reasonably close (within 2-3 yards). They use Trackman, which tracks the ball over a longer distance. I think GCQuad gives up some "final result" accuracy for what it gains in club data over Trackman.
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