After reading the comments, this video shouldn't be interpreted as "Everyone should delete Defender", but more for those that don't web browse and are obsessed with performance. Also, I'm tired of folks saying "Defender is good enough". Yes, its better than nothing, but if I were ever to "Break Bad" the first people I'd go after is the windows defender users. For Antivirus Recommendations: Free Alternative: BitDefender Free or Kaspersky Cloud (Not great for privacy though) Paid Alternative: ESET Antivirus ONLY (Affiliate Link: christitus.com/antivirus) With any Antivirus do NOT buy an internet security or anything BUT the Antivirus ONLY!
@richardz6049
2 жыл бұрын
This is clear and sound advice.
@utherlightbringer3868
2 жыл бұрын
How can you advise bitdefender its slower than defender?
@gyzmoduck
2 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy VI as a favorite!!!! You da man and that alone just got my sub!
@moroc333
2 жыл бұрын
Too late, already erased defender alongside system32 ... Because I switched to Linux lol. Don't worry, I think some people just hear what they want to hear in order to be outraged, because this is the Internet. Some are just being tribalistic (someone said you said this just because you are a "Linux fanboy" lmao). Keep up with the good content and thanks for the clarification.
@utherlightbringer3868
2 жыл бұрын
@@moroc333 Linux still needs to "eat much more carbs" to compete with windows its on good direction but not there yet
@trappedcat3615
2 жыл бұрын
Unplugging the PC and destroying the wifi component is the best firewall
@elbmw
2 жыл бұрын
But then you would not have been able to post that advice here...
@Peshyy
2 жыл бұрын
@@elbmw degoogled Android phone with mobile network?
@elbmw
2 жыл бұрын
@@Peshyy No, I don't think so. You still have to use a YT account to post, which means that certain identifiers for your device will be collected by the website, in this case YT, which can then be matched with your account. In the end, there is NO privacy or true anonymity on the internet, if that is what you strive for. If security of your device is what is desired then install an internet security software (I use [paid for] Kaspersky Total Security) and be careful where you visit and what you click on and even then that is no guarantee of security. Unfortunately, that's the reality.
@trappedcat3615
2 жыл бұрын
@@elbmw Joking aside, avoid Electron apps as those have access to your real device. If you are using a browser, use different browsers for different purposes. Tor Browser is best if you need privacy. Brave does enough to reduce cross site tracking. If you have an account then anything you do with that account is tied to you. You want them to have a good fingerprint of your browser so they can protect your account from fraudulent access.
@user-he4ef9br7z
2 жыл бұрын
My wifi chip is connected separately so I can just switch it off and use my computer on "no internet" mode.
@zbarczy
2 жыл бұрын
I remember you said just the opposite in a previous video, something like "don't use anti-virus, it is not necessary, Windows Defender is already protecting you", or something down this line. I may remember wrong, or mix it up and it was yet another tech guru, but I remember someone argued for that. Now what? :)
@ruddock7
2 жыл бұрын
I remember that too!!
@NonnyStrikes
4 ай бұрын
Life of a programmer bro
@linuxninja
2 жыл бұрын
What Chris says about Defender is true for ALL anti-virus software. Has everyone forgotten that Defender is a rename of the anti-virus software MicroSoft acquired? It's just one of many.
@4cps777
2 жыл бұрын
It's probably also one of the best if not the best. (Aside from Linux AVs obviously)
@AR15ORIGINAL
2 жыл бұрын
@@4cps777 You should never install an AV into Linux lol
@jameslee5191
2 жыл бұрын
@@AR15ORIGINAL you're much better off using encrypted file systems.
@im_tem
2 жыл бұрын
@@AR15ORIGINAL haha youre so funny, didnt even consider that it can be used to protect other computers on a network, not the host
@mrkitty777
2 жыл бұрын
Microsoft Defender is original called Microsoft Spynet in 2004, because of conspicuous people Microsoft Spynet was renamed. Microsoft at that time took initiative for things Edward S would say in the early 2010's here are words of wisdom, it's an acronym. M.I.C.R.O.S.O.F.T. Murder Intimidation Corruption Rape Obfuscation Spyware Observation Fear Trauma i am sorry it's this way because what we tend to do is act on what they made us believe that way. I am sorry so sorry 😔
@Yinzzy656
2 жыл бұрын
Defender causes me no issues. So im fine with it.
@DawidFreeman
2 жыл бұрын
Can you make some performance comparison with and without defender ? Just for curiosity sake.
@scpatl4now
2 жыл бұрын
I certainly don't miss having to deal with registry hacks in Windows. I left that behind for Linux in 2005. In tech support we called "scorched earth" "Nuke and Pave"...lol
@DaKingof
2 жыл бұрын
@@parkman29 that would literally defeat the purpose of how linux is structured.
@halikular
2 жыл бұрын
@@DaKingof It would not, and it's called nixos.
@louistournas120
2 жыл бұрын
@@parkman29 What's the point of having a registry? All software store their stuff in it and once you uninstall them, they leave their junk there and it slows down Windows. CPUs have gotten faster so that hides that fact a bit. The registry is a single point of failure and it looks like Windows is not able to recover from it.
@OcteractSG
2 жыл бұрын
@@louistournas120 Programs on Linux also leave behind configuration files in /etc and in ~/.config after you uninstall them. Even when you tell your package manager to purge the program, it does not remove everything. While I like the point about Nix, Nix’s config file is very different from the Windows registry. Sure, both of them exist as files, but on Windows, everything uses the registry constantly. So yes, the system could get slower with more garbage to parse. That is why a tool like Revo Uninstaller is so useful, as it cleans of the registry after uninstalling a program. As for the single point of failure bit, that is just poor design of Windows. Microsoft seems to have no interest in shipping an actually filesystem to users. ReFS is a BTRFS and ZFS competitor that Microsoft created, but only enterprise users can make use of it, and only for plain data drives. I make no attempt to defend Microsoft or Windows-I don’t like this behavior either. However, things are a little more complicated and nuanced than we sometimes give them credit for. From my understanding, “nuke and pave” refers to reinstalling the operating system. I suppose it could refer to getting rid of an antivirus and replacing it with another. The key is to both nuke the thing that’s done and then pave it over with something else.
@louistournas120
2 жыл бұрын
@@OcteractSG I see. I suppose what should be done with these naughty Linux programs that leave behind files in .config and such is that when you install them, they should inform the package manager that during uninstall, it should look for certain files in certain locations and if they are found, they should be deleted. These are always easy to solve if there is the will to solve them. It seems to me that most of the time, the programmers are lazy (The Windows world) or the programmers treat the end user as an administrator (Linux world).
@baddealrage
2 жыл бұрын
Chris, App control and XDR are features of Windows Defender Enterprise, you can control cloud apps, application prevalence and have alert and custom actions trough Cloud App security (Recently renamed to Defender for cloud apps). Thats great that some people talk about these scripts, but in a fully managed Windows Defender Enterprise the registry keys will be locked down and changes will be ignored.
@manthing1467
2 жыл бұрын
Just rolled out MDE, really liking it so far. Moving over from S1.
@eyesofnova
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was about to say this. To elaborate on this, it will send security alerts back to your SIEM. I think this is an example of a sysadmin who may not know how powerful Defender has gotten over the years. Its not an insult towards him, he's on the otherside of the house and isn't focused on that area.
@Sciophobia.
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is definitely true and it’s unfortunate Microsoft doesn’t give consumers this same ability. It still does not score as well as CrowdStrike, Cortex, and GZ in MITRE evaluations. And just overall from experience both of these are more effective solutions to stop ATP ransomware deployed by nation-state actors than Defender for Endpoint.
@diabilliq
2 жыл бұрын
indeed, defender for endpoint gives red teams a run for their money these days. defender is now an umbrella of products, endpoint being 1 of them and cloud apps which you mentioned being another. would be nice if it wasn't locked behind the E5 flavor of M365 to get more people onboarded.
@manthing1467
2 жыл бұрын
@@diabilliq Defender for endpoint P2 license, MS engineer said you can have up to 5 devices per license. However licenses are applied to AAD users.. they are not deducted when I onboard devices.. which is odd....
@Adam_Lyskawa
2 жыл бұрын
I used many AV programs in recent years. All of them (beside the price) have also one common disadvantage. They are intrusive. They show dialogs, windows, messages, alerts when IMO they shouldn't. Also, they have conflicts with other software. Various weird problems that magically disappeared when the AV got disabled. Always some performance hit. So - actually I find the Windows Defender as the least intrusive. I use it not because it's good (I guess it's probably not). I use it because it takes no effort. It's just preinstalled by default, preconfigured, not a single click from me is needed. Then - IT SITS QUIET. Yes, sometimes it causes some system slowdown - especially after downloading a big game from Steam or installing a big program. I can tolerate this. This suboptimal protection is still better than no protection at all. I'm a power user, I don't install just anything on my PC, I don't even open e-mails from unknown senders. Still, any small tool or even a document you download from even a trusted site can contain some malware and it actually happens from time to time. If not Defender then what? My requirement is the program must be FASTER (because the greatest flaw of Defender is slowness) and as QUIET / maintenance free as Defender. The only time I want to see any notification from AV is when a real threat is found.
@MrSephirothJenova
2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough Defender is one of, if not THE best AV for windows. You're doing nothing wrong.
@SafeTrucking
2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. I have a fast CPU, 32GB of RAM and a fast SSD, so I have no problems with anything slowing down. And it doesn't annoy me. And I don't have viruses.
@SensibleChuckle
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrSephirothJenova can you provide data to support that, please?
@T2NWasTaken
2 жыл бұрын
Same, i don't download crack's or open sus mails or weird stuff so defender is fine for me and it's not too intrusive like you said. Imo windows defender is as good as it's pc owner.
@xXRenaxChanXx
2 жыл бұрын
THIS. Also, every other antivirus I've ever tried have been absolute resource hogs. Even the so called "cloud" based ones that claim to be super lightweight.
@bryndal36
2 жыл бұрын
I've had more issues installing third party anti virus software than going without it and using Windows Defender.
@susantompkins8810
2 жыл бұрын
That's because it does nothing... Absolutely sits there giving you the illusion that it's doing something but it is not! I switched to Linux mint 4 years ago, no need to run antivirus always updates for security and I still game as usual.... Life is swell in mint land.
@laughingalien
2 жыл бұрын
@@susantompkins8810 Linux is great. I too use Mint at home. Unfortunately a lot of us are tethered to Window$ for enterprise reasons. A lot of businesses run on Micro$oft. Hopefully - virtualization via the cloud will take care of a lot the desktop problems I see everyday.
@leonidastankiangaming
4 ай бұрын
@@susantompkins8810does Linux still have a power efficiency issue?
@Valenorious
2 жыл бұрын
Let's hope that people importing such a registy file from a random github are smart enough to notice or look for a RunOnce registry key to wget a malware file and auto run it. Registry key-files are not inherrently safer than a batch file that runs a script. They are just to easier enable/undo your changes. The code and files of defender are still on your system.
@daMillenialTrucker
2 жыл бұрын
I don't even know what you said, I just want to disable windows defender
@DizConnected
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this added as an option in The Ultimate Windows Utility. Maybe add a recommended, free, anti-virus to the programs in The Ultimate Windows Utility.
@alanelston2330
2 жыл бұрын
This is another interesting update on your thoughts on Windows Defender, following your video from a month ago, “Why I HATE Windows Defender” Disabling Windows Defender and/ or Enabling it, featured in your early Debloat script utility things, but did not feature in more recent ones. It will be interesting to compare the PowerShell script in those early things with the info in this video and in the other places you referenced. A lot of good insights, heads-up, and learning potential here, IMO.
@normalizedaudio2481
2 жыл бұрын
Registry could be argued as a stronger point of MS Windows.
@dandeson9723
2 жыл бұрын
For me Defender is all I need, I just boot to Windows so i can play Tarkov, 97% of the time I'm using Fedora, never had any problem with it besides one miner that destroyed it few years back.
@rogerm1111
2 жыл бұрын
It is fine, this video his misleading.
@79chrisuk
2 жыл бұрын
I’d always recommend anyone using defender to do so as part of a layered security setup.
@abellius66
2 жыл бұрын
Replacement suggestion for defender?
@hellhound320
2 жыл бұрын
@@abellius66 Maybe malwarebytes but to be honest I wouldn't use any, either use defender or no AV at all, that's my opinion on it.
@archpenguin6646
2 жыл бұрын
@@hellhound320 HAHa yeah! who needs AV in a clone of a VM..... just spin up the same instance over and over ... fresh windows for ever...LOL
@laughingalien
2 жыл бұрын
@@archpenguin6646 Just be sure to prevent your VM from getting to shared drives, of course. If you're like me, you use a component in the VM and then throw it away. I know some bad actors have actually coded to detect a VM and remain dormant (i.e., show zero malicious behavior).
@laughingalien
2 жыл бұрын
@@hellhound320 Yep - allowing any third-party software to hook into your kernel is a bad idea. Organizations sell out during take overs and care zero-day about trusted relationships. Freemium options are the worst.
@AAlchemy
2 жыл бұрын
Also, 365 Microsoft Defender for Endpoint does have all the central management and IT alerting.
@seangraylin
2 жыл бұрын
might be wrong but I think he works as an MSP and that doesn't have multi tenancy support.
@victorytechnology
2 жыл бұрын
@@seangraylin If an MSP has all of their users across their tenants licensed for M365 Business Premium, you get Defender for Business included with that. You can then use Microsoft Lighthouse to view all threats and risks and take many mitigation actions without having to switch between different M365 admin centers.
@seangraylin
2 жыл бұрын
@@victorytechnology I personally haven't used lighthouse but a few of my colleagues have and I think the opinion at the moment is that it is still lacking for now. I'd need to ask why specifically this is as like I said I haven't looked at it myself.
@victorytechnology
2 жыл бұрын
Microsoft Lighthouse is definitely lacking! But it’s getting better every month. It now pretty much includes all the security data that you need across all of your tenants with eligible business premium subscriptions except for vulnerability monitoring and management. You still have to login to the individual tenants security center for that. I suspect that will be coming in future releases. You can even deploy Default security base lines across all of your tenants with it. Although they are not as beefy as the security defaults that you would find in Microsoft endpoint manager.
@seangraylin
2 жыл бұрын
@@victorytechnology Good to hear that it is getting better, it's probably something to look in to a little later for us.
@irbaboon1979
2 жыл бұрын
So given admin rights you can break stuff? What’s next? Rm -r /etc breaks stuff too? Come on…this is just clickbait/flame bait nonsense. Defender is a first line defense and fairly sufficient (and doesn’t shove scare-ware adds in your face) at that when compared to other ‘free’ stuff’. Switch to Linux if you want more freedom or Mac if you’re into that kind of lock-ins. If you’re worried about virus crud you’re in the wrong areas of the internet and it’s your own fault (or you should get more reliable sources for your illegal stuff) :) Windows is not the holy grail, it’s a tool like any OS but your brain is the biggest tool to use: don’t trust anything, don’t install/click random cool sound stuff. You’re not going to saw the handle of your hammer and then nag it’s difficult to hold, are you?
@nesper8
2 жыл бұрын
But the question is "Should you really do this?"
@bobbybologna3029
2 жыл бұрын
Why not? Essentially all antivirus is worthless and defender is just an extortion racket.
@bobbybologna3029
2 жыл бұрын
@@ianwakers Nope. Its all habit. Your AV isnt stopping squat lol And yes they sell certificates for developers to bypass Defender scans, Chris did an entire video on it bud. aw.. he deleted.
@BradleyGibbs
2 жыл бұрын
If you aren't a crayon, it's a good idea
@griffin1366
2 жыл бұрын
For me, yes.
@Chibibowa
2 жыл бұрын
I did. But I deleted (renamed to bak) the wd system folders using linux xD. Same result :D
@michelepiocurci7924
2 жыл бұрын
I'm under the impression windows Group Policy Editor should be way more well known than it is atm.
@StevenKroeger
2 жыл бұрын
It deleted some things I had on a USB..no warning except "Virus found" and then it was empty lost everything on the USB
@rudiwinkelstein2483
2 жыл бұрын
For me, it's Goodby Microsoft -Defender-
@boringusername792
2 жыл бұрын
For me, it's Goodby Microsoft Windows
@AngstG
2 жыл бұрын
yes goodbye microsoft, and good riddence..
@RoadRunner1980
2 жыл бұрын
Wait... didn't you make a video a while ago where you said that Windows Defender is good enough and you don't really need a third party AV?
@BatJeff
2 жыл бұрын
Its wild to me that tech youtubers will say that Defender is great and totally fine to use by itself, and then other ones that say its a waste of space and to get it removed. Who am I supposed to listen to???
@GYTCommnts
2 жыл бұрын
The tests I saw, it depends if Defender is working relying almost totally with online stuff or locally. If you allow all the online stuff, is powerful (less privacy of course), like other AVs, because it's using server databases and a sort of "defense net". If you use it only locally, well... That's when you are totally screwed. Other AVs, with local updates and other detection technologies, respond much better with only local usage than Defender. The tests that I saw was with the same trojans and malware in different AVs with online capabilities on and off, and the results.
@nyft3352
2 жыл бұрын
I get why you would want to disable defender in a performance oriented pc, or some minimal single purpose pc with no internet connectivity... but i wouldnt advice disabling AV software for online gaming like you did, i know it can be annoying and defender is not the best but online games can ave security vulnerabilities, dark souls multiplayer and log4j in minecraft as very recent examples. So yeah, even if theres little reason to worry about an attack the probability is never zero, dont play online games without some level of protection, offline games is ok tho.
@ChrisTitusTech
2 жыл бұрын
This is true, but whenever you are online... there is always a way.
@andrewnorris5415
2 жыл бұрын
He's saying do this and install another better one. Not go without any.
@utherlightbringer3868
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewnorris5415 And be slower than defender, any third party just slows down pc even more than defender.. defender is necessary evil nothing more
@RTBGG
2 жыл бұрын
@@utherlightbringer3868 is this true tho? Is there some current year benchmarking about this?
@utherlightbringer3868
2 жыл бұрын
@@RTBGG Listen if you use any third party av it will be slower its just reality, i tried literally 10 of them, compared to built in even though defender can be annoying others are even worse they are just more a hog than defender.. and if you dont trust me try it by yourself.. best xp is your own xp
@ScorpionCar
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! The Twitter post of all the commands for PowerShell to disable the 13 parts of Windows Defender really helps with performance
@fordgary3000
2 жыл бұрын
I NEVER EVER HAD NO KIND OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE MICROSOFT WINDOWS DEFENDER AT ALL FOLKS.
@wrockd
2 жыл бұрын
Name any Antivirus on the face of the earth which can't be disabled by a program/script with *"Admin Privilege"(Which both of the Scripts that you showed on the screen also required)?* Because that would be a problem in itself for the most part. And if you have real time and heuristics enabled most programs and scripts incorporating these bypasses are detected and blocked. *Bitdefender, Kaspersky, Avast or maybe any other AV under the sun could be disabled in a very same way,* as they also work in the exact same way and require registry keys, policies and files to work instead of running on thin air. Antivirus only protects one from malicious programs through running its hash through a database and sandbox testing it for malicious behaviour beforehand, and stopping low privilege programs from making any crucial modifications (which is effective unless you have a habit of right click and run as admin), And before someone points out that these could be "bypassed", I'm very well aware of that myself, while they aren't exactly as easily bypassable as most people make it out to be, still if you disable those, you won't even be secure from the malicious programs that would get caught by those mechanisms, which is the vast majority. And any security is better than no security. And The "Admin Tools" you mentioned that are provided to "Administrators" are nothing more than fancy wording for Powershell scripts and Regedit scripts I suppose? And Scripts for disabling Defender and UAC aren't really some "forbidden knowledge" only available to the "l337 H4X0R5". Take a look at the source and it would become evident that all the script is doing is disabling those through Microsoft's own provided and well documented APIs, setting policies under GPE and on deleting some stuff on top of that, nothing there that a 7 year old skid with basic shell scripting knowledge can't comprehend. Those scripts have been there for decades with literally almost every other person remotely interested in Antivirus framework having their own iteration built from ground up. *Point being that these have been known for decades but the impact of this on the effectiveness of AVs has been near to none, simply because of its unrealistic prerequisite it requires known as Admin Privileges, if a "Virus Manufacturer" knows that their victim will run the program as admin, they could do much more than just disabling Defender. And these bypass techniques are limited and static and hence they get caught by heuristics anyway.* You can't compare AVs by whether they could be bypassed by a program with "Admin privileges". Because that's a constant which holds true for most if not all AVs out there, while I agree that defender certainly lacks in certain areas, still it is one of the best ones in the "Free" category. Paid ones are a different matter though, in that case Kaspersky is a better choice.
@zetho.270
8 күн бұрын
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@monkeyofwar6818
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I have better chances of just using defender rather than tinkering with this stuff lol
@jo12t
Жыл бұрын
Microsoft should have built in sophisticated checks for changing security settings either by the user or by granting admin privileges and tell the user when those changes happen via another sophisticated change such as a modified BSOD that allows you to to try a revert changes or click “i know”…. Something like that
@cod.liver.failure
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I have a few windows machines that just do a single task (no network connection). Videos like this helps get that performance back.
@ahriman6669
2 жыл бұрын
The question is why would you do that? Any modern security system does disable the Windows Defender (actually windows sees you’ve got another security system and let the other program to take the responsibility) and completely get rid of Windows Defender is actually not really smart even tho you only play Steam games on your machine.
@AztekUR
2 жыл бұрын
Actually defender keeps running on background like a second layer of security
@ahriman6669
2 жыл бұрын
@@AztekUR if we’re talking about newest versions of windows 10-11 I’m kinda sure it does not really run in background. They’re some tasks run in background these have almost no impact in performance of the machine in any way.
@mullewap6670
2 жыл бұрын
What do you think, is the best firewall and anti-virus?
@SuperOtter100
2 жыл бұрын
Also the statement, "Defender will not catch as much Virusses as any other AV product, because it is more widely used" is utter hogwash. Defender reports directly into Microsoft's SOC environment in Azure, and Microsoft has invested probably more than all the other AV vendors combined in Machine Learning and Heuristics, knows their OS code better, and detects vulnerabilities quicker than anyone else on the planet currently. A typical strategy if you're looking to exploit a system / environment is to reverse engineer patches after Patch Tuesday, as reverse engineering a vulneability and attcking unpatched machines is easier trying to get to vulnearbilities by yourself. If I were to write a virus, I would rather target a smaller group / AV products and go undetected, than having to go up against all the compute in the defender backend and risk my code being flagged as suspicious and then shared with the smaller AV vendors. There are security individuals, that know alot more than Chris, that would tell you the same. If you dont want to beleive them, there is a reason why Microsoft has been in the Gartner Magic Quadrant with defender for the past 2 years.
@ryanlea750
2 жыл бұрын
Bravo, on the thumbnail!
@AbdulRafay-vi6hz
2 жыл бұрын
Okay, I get it that window defender is not a good anti-virus if some want to attack they can...but that still raise some other questions if not Window defender then which software or technique should I use to get some kind of protection.
@yoyoyogames9527
2 жыл бұрын
havent used anti virus for years on windows, but if you insist on running suspicious stuff then anything would be better than defender
@TurntableTV
2 жыл бұрын
Most of the protection can be handled by your browser. If you download shady stuff off of the internet you can use software like sandboxie to test it or use a VM. The only scenarios where I would install an antivirus would be there where I don't have control over the machines (be it a multi-user machine or at work).
@DaBrown101
2 жыл бұрын
@@TurntableTV The main thing I've been using is double or triple adblockers like Adblocker Ultimate + uBlock Origin + Adblock Plus. And I've never had any issues with viruses or random things pop up or whatever. I always go to shady websites and click on random things and try to find videos or files or anything I am looking for. Then I can using the Windows Defender and nothing shows up. So now I want to test with no Windows Defender to see how my computer holds up for the next month or so. But you are correct, most issues comes from the browser, and on what people click on. So why not secure the source instead of letting crap enter your pc and then have your defender do the hard work of trying to remove it? Better block all that crap at the source, in the browser!
@pherrakpherran954
2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I do not have to actively deal with all the Windows bloat...
@zakubot8529
10 ай бұрын
just saying it's hard to imagine a 3rd party that knows more about windows vulnerabilities then Microsoft themselfs.
@pitsmcgoo
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't hurt anything Leave it alone.
@iulyxpert
2 жыл бұрын
Defender is the only thing I can't get rid of in windows. But that's not the case anymore, thanks Chris.
@SpartanGR77
11 ай бұрын
Can you explain how to a noob please? Thanks
@iulyxpert
11 ай бұрын
@@SpartanGR77 see description
@Kyouma.
22 күн бұрын
I heard that removing Windows Defender entirely is not a good idea because Update searches for it
@Soupjamjoel
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, wondering how much exposure you've had with EDR? It's hard to see any different AV as more than a lateral move, once seeing those in action. Pretty moot for a home user of course lol.
@flaminbutt
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, are you really saying MS defender is a bad antivirus because it can be disabled by a user with administrative rights?
@logicalfundy
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, virus writers can "get past the gates" and just test against AV. In fact, they can go as far as to use something like VirusTotal and "get past the gates" on most AVs. That's kinda missing the point, though - the effectiveness of a virus isn't really defined by whether or not a virus can be written to bypass AV in the first place, but rather how quickly it can spread before all of the AV vendors update.
@raylopez99
2 жыл бұрын
True, I think all viruses are effective on the zero day.
@kiyoshi6247
2 жыл бұрын
Without internet connection, windows defender is like piss in the wind.
@synchro-dentally1965
2 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking that at some point Microsoft had to downgrade the quality of some unreleased development version of Defender due to it flagging the advertisements being served to the user.
@danuw3lls
2 жыл бұрын
But you told me to use defender..
@digdug8
2 жыл бұрын
Some suggestions for Defender alternatives would be nice...
@BatJeff
2 жыл бұрын
this. literally none in the comments or the video lmao
@bored78612
2 жыл бұрын
@@BatJeff use defender or use a topper paid AV
@BatJeff
2 жыл бұрын
@@bored78612 so your suggestion is just "use defender or use something else"? Lmao
@rootbeer666
2 жыл бұрын
I was using other ways to disable it. In any case, it's not a bad antivirus for anyone who doesn't stray off the beaten path. In my case it was removing files from useful software, and Microsoft didn't even bother to properly implement the restore button for quarantined items detected as "threat", only through command line. For example it was removing IDA, which is an important code forensics tool.
@Melody666
Жыл бұрын
It's much more complicated than that if you're using Windows 11. A lot of those group policies are ignored or just temporary, it's a matter of time before they just revert, or they just straight get ignored completely. It's possible to set those policies successfully and permanently in Windows Server, but not on any client system (yes, including Enterprise, which is absurd). You can still limit defender's CPU usage to 5% and set the default taken actions for detections, so that it ignores everything, and you can also disable certain features of it, like smartscreen, you can change its priority in Image File Execution Options as well (the policy to limit the priority is now ignored, but can still be set). You may think: "well, I'll just erase Windows Defender", and that's where you're wrong. Not only Windows Defender just reinstalls itself if you use Windows 11 but, if it can't reinstall itself, you won't be able to do certain things, like updating, because, apparently, a lot of stuff passes through Windows Defender's filters before "reaching" your computer. The same thing applies to Windows Firewall. There are certain things that needs the Firewall Service to be running, otherwise they'll just think that there's no internet connection. This doesn't mean you can't disable Windows Firewall, it just means that the service of it needs to be running for those things to work properly. A third party application that needs it is Call of Duty: Warzone.
@SpartanGR77
11 ай бұрын
Ive been trying to remove it, so are you saying on Windows 11 home its impossible?
@Melody666
11 ай бұрын
@@SpartanGR77 If you want to remove it without tampering, you may try your luck by upgrading to IoT Enterprise and checking whether the "Disable Windows Defender" policy gets ignored. If it does, try installing ClamWin or any third party antivirus and run it once and reboot, then check whether it's still ignored. This trick works on IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (which is based on Windows 10 21H2, though). No idea if this will work on 11 IoT.
@jaylittlegm
2 жыл бұрын
I don't like Windows. Not sure why anybody does. But man your hate fest for Windows Defender is really idiotic. Seriously. Every single flaw you've pointed out here is applicable to any other legit anti-virus package you can install on Windows. Do better Chris.
@Anonymous4045
2 жыл бұрын
The entire antivirus market is a scam, even more so than VPNs. The public as a whole isn't very knowledgeable about cybersecurity and will just get anything branded as 'secure'
@nakedeye44
2 жыл бұрын
one of the things I learnt through out the years is: programs that come built in with a system are the best for the good work of that system, maybe other 3ed party programs are much better, but I rely on the built in because they are programed by the same company behind the system. so, no i won't get rid of defender, I use it and every week I download Kaspersky removal tool and scan my system then delete it.
@apreviousseagle836
2 жыл бұрын
Windows Defender is OUTSTANDING at detecting "hacktools" that are meant to register Microsoft software with "yoink" KMS servers, lol
@chiefdenis
2 жыл бұрын
Can testify, its INCREDIBLE at that job
@apreviousseagle836
2 жыл бұрын
@@chiefdenis Oh, "those" viruses they will NEVER let slip ;-)
@speedymemes8127
2 жыл бұрын
Well not for nothing, a lot of the commands used to disable Defender could easily be turned into a security alert itself. At home, I can definitely see how dangerous this can be but when it comes to enterprise Defender is basically becoming a defacto standard in the industry and these kinds of tactics could easily be caught with proper monitoring or logging. Also, not for nothing but any other AV also could easily be targeted using similar techniques. It's certainly an issue though, especially for home users lacking any active monitoring, so thank you for raising awareness!
@Wombat86dkdk
5 ай бұрын
If you install another antivirus doesnt Windows Defender automatically go away? (Stop actively running)
@gofrancis
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I find Windows Defender MUCH BETTER than some paid versions of Anti-Virus.
@Nomad-qm3zf
2 жыл бұрын
Windows defender is still the best anti virus software available for windows. You can do things to add to it, but if anything were your ONLY anti virus software, it's the best one and it's free.
@Toon1810
2 жыл бұрын
I agree.... What are the options Chris...???
@anonymousalexander6005
2 жыл бұрын
@@Toon1810 Chris is becoming more and more of a paid shill unfortunately, whether intentionally or not. What can you expect from just a sys admin, he cannot be the end all for OS and user space related advice. PC Security Channel does some benchmarks but he’s not even remotely all encompassing
@garethhall1476
2 жыл бұрын
I agree too, sits in the background, doesn't slow your machine down, doesn't miss a hell of a lot either, not sure why it has such a bad rap.
@Jurmeh
2 жыл бұрын
Today the question is what causes more problems, the antivirus or the virus? Most commercial antivirus programs pester the user non-stop with some questions, pop up dialogs and want to sell you more protection and so on, as if the user only has a computer to deal with the antivirus program. At the same time, they detect a lot of false positives for completely legitimate programs that have nothing to do with viruses. Of all the antivirus programs, I would say that Windows defender is still the most useful and no-nag, maybe not the best, but which antivirus is the best? I might also recommend NOD32.
@sephiroth7818
2 жыл бұрын
So instead of only letting Microsoft view your files on your PC, you want to add a third party to access your files also?
@andrewnorris5415
2 жыл бұрын
The far greater threat is hackers. And they go after Defender more because most people use it. Nothing is risk free - it is about minimizing it on balance.
@SnowyRVulpix
2 жыл бұрын
Objectively speaking, Windows Defender is good enough. The only way you can get better is switch to Linux or MacOS
@MostlyRCSlovakia
2 жыл бұрын
You can also easily add a Excluded folder to defender, copy the payload there and boom, no detection. Defender is really easy to trick by malware..
@mathiasdeweerdt1400
Жыл бұрын
You would need to be administrator to do so.
@yumri4
2 жыл бұрын
His advice with github and unknown code is why i use it in VMs. The host is to important for anything to get in. Github has useful projects and with VMs i can just make a virtual environment tailored to the project at hand. Windows Defender is useful as buying dozens if not hundreds of product keys is expensive the other way is to buy a bulk license key which most anti-malware providers don't sell unless you have an active contract with them. Most don't like VMs used in the way i use them in as it reverts back everything done to often.
@byakuyakuchiki6715
3 ай бұрын
My win10 won't let me run the script, it says it needs permissions. How do I do it?
@livsstilen
2 жыл бұрын
I blocked it years ago
@BlueRice
2 жыл бұрын
im not up to date. but a while back, there used to be a hacking forum how people hack into other people system and they have server out there that they want people to hack into. everytime a virus software get a new update of a virus detection, we simply just make a new one so it wont be undetected. it would be as easy as a program rewrite a new executable with the same function but a whole new code in different ways. there's really no way to protect yourself against a hacker if they focus on you. the best way is not to be connected to the internet.
@rafalou38
2 жыл бұрын
Windows defender doesn't let you install or run viruses anyway so, the odds for a virus to execute and disable the antivirus are very few I'm using window Defender since many years and never had a single issues whenever I downloaded a virus WD would just delete it instantly. Paid anti-viruses use too much system resources and don't do much more, how can a third party be harder to remove and more secure than an app integrated in the system! You will get the same issues with absolutely all anti-viruses, once it runs you're screwed no matter which one do you have. To stop viruses, you have to detect and delete them before they run.
@_modiX
2 жыл бұрын
Windows Defender tries to defend me against the evil KMSPico. 🤡
@ZSquirrel678
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh 🤣
@so_sow
2 жыл бұрын
Not that I'm a Windows shill, but KMSPico is probably one of the most common tools that's hijacked to get a RAT onto your system. If you managed to filter the 1% of legit ones, congrats, but 99% of the others are just riddled with all sorts of exploits
@MouseHunteR77n
2 жыл бұрын
ESET Doses great job
@griffin1366
2 жыл бұрын
I've been disabling defender with Group Policy but also registry keys to be safe. It does indeed have too much of a performance impact for my liking. I don't need or want an anti-virus and if I did it wouldn't be defender.
@mrkitty777
2 жыл бұрын
Defender is original called Microsoft Spynet in 2004, but marketing insisted renaming it.
@zSwoof
2 жыл бұрын
Is there a guide on how to disable it and keep the registry keys?
@mrkitty777
2 жыл бұрын
@@zSwoof install another antivirus program. Then defender won't interfere as much.
@griffin1366
2 жыл бұрын
@@zSwoof For GPEdit I did it myself but the registry keys I found on a random KZitem video and then verified them.
@luiscarlosvieira3966
Жыл бұрын
Windows Defender is a "drunk soldier"... ya... it is a "soldier"... but just have a stick on his hand and is drunk....
@Eivraiiih
2 жыл бұрын
Microsoft Defender for Endpoint is a different beast
@trevorsmith5946
2 жыл бұрын
if windows defender noticeably affects your pc you should probably upgrade your pc to something faster
@AAlchemy
2 жыл бұрын
don't you need to elevate permissions (somehow) for any of this to work?
@billyguthrie3176
Жыл бұрын
watched a tech benchmark performance both before and after turning defender off and turning it off actually gave no real performance gain at all. with the exception of improving the speed at which files can be transferred fro your secondary drive to your primary drive. even then the performance gains wasn't big enough to make disabling defender worth it.
@servanofmyGod
2 жыл бұрын
so you advocate removing some protection, but you don recommend what to replace it with. I am a computer guy and there are a lot of antiviruses I don't recommend. So many of them are garbage.
@blade1551431
2 жыл бұрын
can you make a video how you delete defender completely sorry if my English is bad
@Murdohk
2 жыл бұрын
Chris, I'm learning so much with your videos, thank you very much. You're my Winodws/Linux guru. I have a question for you. Is there a config on Windows that would do the same thing Deep Freeze does?
@Gustf556
2 жыл бұрын
Can you add this to your Chris Titus Techs Windows Utility tool under tweaks? Would be so awesome!
@TheBeefiestable
2 жыл бұрын
Microsoft quality control is unbelievably bad. One of the updates last year pushed out to the public (every win10 computer in the world!) had a memory leak in defender. Something about an older dotNET4.6 app would cause the defender executable to reliably and continually LOCK UP THE ENTIRE SYSTEM within hours. Unresponsive windows No known standard way to disable defender either, so I had to add an exception of the C drive, which they specifically say you should never do, and add the executable to defender ignorelist But if you can't trust microsoft not to blast this shit out in the future, what other option do you have than disable defender by any means possible?
@fubarsnafu4994
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I totally agree. Pardon my ignorance but doesn't Winblows Defender also handle a lot of the security updates? - Will it not through updates continually try to reinstall Defender?
@Derpingtonshere
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, you say Defender is bad but then throw a affiliate link in the comments(That makes it sound real credible). Then the free alternative you recommend is heavier on resources than windows defender?! This just sounds like you're being biased to me.
@ChrisTitusTech
2 жыл бұрын
Kaspersky cloud free is actually a bit lighter in performance by about 3%. I am pretty biased though as is every one on KZitem. Use what you want, this was merely to show how easy it is to disable defender and deliver payloads. The performance uplift was just something I do on my gaming box, which I don't use AV on.
@Unselfless
2 жыл бұрын
Everything there requires admin privileges to perform. With that, you can remove any antivirus, so I don't really get the point. The goal is to give users "just in time" access and nothing more
@92kosta
2 жыл бұрын
Today I disabled Defender's real-time protection in my Windows 11 22H2 VM and, to my surprise, it still flagged a certain file. How is that possible, Microsoft!? When I disable something, I want it disabled. 100% disabled!
@GT500Shlby
2 жыл бұрын
I do not run basic antivirus. I have Cylance Protect, Infocyte Hunt and Threatlocker. Both Cylance and Infocyte are monitored by a 3rd party 24/7 SOC.
@owlsmol
2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Also what distro are you using my friend?
@moonobservergilles5730
2 жыл бұрын
Chris i have a question do you think Microsoft flight simulator would work better on Linux mint? I would like to make a dual boot ssd that has fs2020 alone on that ssd along with a OS was wondering if Linux mint would be better than windows 10 or 11 ? thank you for taking time to feed back most appreciated..
@mohammedazharuddin2928
2 жыл бұрын
If not window defender then which one should we use? (Open source)
@tushoo4938
2 жыл бұрын
All these free antivirus are great but since they are free why do they require an account, Bitdefender free won't let you do anything before you create an account so it got uninstalled....
@oasisnova
5 ай бұрын
how to undo registry edits??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
@golimonkey
2 жыл бұрын
I dont use antivirus I am antivirus. Not kidding
@alaunaenpunto3690
2 жыл бұрын
Im waiting for "Goodbye Microsoft"
@komismo
2 жыл бұрын
Do not remove windows defender, you can install your favorite AV and make windows defender as secondary AV.
@anthonyedwardcooper8820
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't they discontinue bitdefender free for windows at the end of 2021?
@MiguelDeMarchena
2 жыл бұрын
about 2 years ago i discovered a very small program called dControl that completely disable windows defender but because i don't have information about it's creator i will use your registry keys instead
@TB-oi9uw
2 жыл бұрын
Who killed Hannibal???
@Nelevita
2 жыл бұрын
Woud be funny to know how Titus see the "Ghost Specter Windows Editions".They are Specificly tuend to only Windows Gaming.
@griffin1366
2 жыл бұрын
Having been down the debloating / optimizing track before here's a few things I can say. As of Win10 2004, all various timers are correct and do not need to be changed, altered or disabled. Game mode works as intended and suspends all Windows background tasks. Fullscreen optimizations doesn't hurt performance anymore. Just to name a few. I would highly recommend disabling defender though. People have tested with LDAT tools, benchmarking tools etc. and you will get the same FPS with a minor tweaked Win10 21H2 as a fully debloated / custom ISO. Granted this was all with high-end hardware though, it may be a different story for others. My problem with Ghost Spectre is that he still uses all the old "tweaks" and some of them are placebo / and might make things worse.
@streetcoder76
2 жыл бұрын
Microsoft Defender does the same or better job than all the other anti-virus software for Windows. Because it's better integrated into the OS kernel an offering a much smaller attack surface than the other snake oil out there. Sadly I can't install it with "apt install microsoft-defender" on my system. Me not running MS Windows because you can only buy a usage license and not own the software, you are not allowed to look into the software to tell what it does and you are not allowed to change and fix it. It's not you controlling the software, but the software controlling you. But Microsoft has very skilled people working there and from the bits you can see from the outside they are doing a better job on anti-virus than the others, but it's still snake oil and you have to trust Microsoft blindly.
@portman8909
2 жыл бұрын
Kaspersky is superior to Defender.
@streetcoder76
2 жыл бұрын
@@portman8909 lol, technically partly yes and no, but in summary even worse. Installing Anti-Virus is like installing a backdoor for the good guys (and bad guys knowing 0days). You already trust MS as good guys, otherwise you wouldn't have this OS, but trusting another company as good guys (espacially Kapersky) and letting them do hidden things on your PC is opening another chapter of the story.
@postnick
2 жыл бұрын
I just bareback the internet. I've never kept an install long enough to notice a slowdown from virus.
@S.C.A.M.B.E.R.
2 жыл бұрын
Will you make a demo? Also, can you inclde that to you debloater script?
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