You know a company is untouchable when they host it on their video platform and suggest for me to watch.
@waynemongo
3 жыл бұрын
Ho ho! Pretty funny
@uncovidvaxxforthestrongand3582
3 жыл бұрын
thats because people protect companies like google
@billgreen576
3 жыл бұрын
When you say untouchable do you mean innocent until proven guilty. I am sure that is the law under which I wish to live.
@ansongabriel8623
3 жыл бұрын
Dunno if anyone gives a damn but if you're stoned like me during the covid times then you can watch pretty much all of the new series on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my gf for the last couple of weeks =)
@jamesoncade1229
3 жыл бұрын
@Anson Gabriel yea, I've been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself :D
@KojakTPB
3 жыл бұрын
The irony... MP's getting frustrated over someone not giving a straight answer
@jacobmacaree3063
3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that good?????????
@KojakTPB
3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmacaree3063 It is good, it's just ironic that the very people famous for not giving straight answers, are the same people that are frustrated that they aren't getting a straight answer
@adambrickley1119
3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmacaree3063 Not when tax avoidance is happening.
@PaulStargasm
3 жыл бұрын
True.
@jameshblack
Жыл бұрын
@@adambrickley1119 do politicians get questions like this guy , then are as guilty as this guy
@josef596
3 жыл бұрын
He should be a politician. He’s better at it than them.
@scoobynut82
3 жыл бұрын
Lol was just about to say the exact same thing
@bardslee
3 жыл бұрын
He probably gets paid too much 😂
@Marcoose81
3 жыл бұрын
That concerned look with those eyebrows is a weapon.
@whatshisname3304
3 жыл бұрын
@@bardslee 137 million a year according to wiki. though he probably wrote that himself.
@paulallen579
3 жыл бұрын
That’s why he’s an executive instead, because if you’re good at not giving straight answers you can get paid for it handsomely.
@andymiller5907
7 жыл бұрын
Rather ironic that its MP's who are saying that he should call a spade a spade, and upset that he refuses to answer a question with "yes" or "no". Annoying isn't it?
@peterfairfax
3 жыл бұрын
Only someone who doesn't know anything about politics believes 'politicians' are a single, homogenous group
@Mansare94
3 жыл бұрын
@@peterfairfax 90% are though.
@MrMoekanz
3 жыл бұрын
@@peterfairfax ok. Please link here any single video of any single politician giving a clear and straight yes or no answer to a yes or no question, with the caveat that they also weren't lying when they did so? I think you will struggle to find anything to link.
@krisb-travel
Жыл бұрын
@@MrMoekanz one year later and we're still waiting for that link lol
@KieranDevvs
3 жыл бұрын
In summary: "I'm not aware of the rules and technicalities but I don't think Google owes anyone tax"
@Sharpe2007Dent
3 жыл бұрын
If i don't know how tax things work can I not pay tax then please.
@iwatchwithnoads7480
Жыл бұрын
@@Sharpe2007Dent idk how it works in the UK, but in Canada if you try to open a business they get your statement that you will follow the tax laws and maintain proper accounting or contract someone do it for you. That makes you accountable and liable
@steoderfragt1821
Жыл бұрын
Is it the CEOs job to be an expert on british tax laws? No, his job is to delegate to people that are experts in their field in order to maximize profit for his shareholders. You cant be an expert in every field regarding your international company.
@steoderfragt1821
Жыл бұрын
@Perseus1275 Ha, yes, thats why he got the position of VP, because he isnt good at delegating. Makes no sense, but go off king. What job do you have, just asking ;)
@KieranDevvs
Жыл бұрын
@@steoderfragt1821 Well yeah... If you're going to persuade someone, you kinda want to know what you're talking about... Didn't think I needed to explain that one 😂
@gazsm1
3 жыл бұрын
If they were really serious, the HRMC and police would investigate Google properly within the full extent of the law. If they found Google could be, or is, actually defrauding the HRMC then it would go to a court of law. Cases like this will never go to court because if Google or any other big corporation/business were to be found guilty, the precedence would be set in law. And that would open the floodgates for all corporations/businesses evading tax to be subject to criminal proceedings. Having a ministerial enquiry means it's all done for show, a few high profile businessmen are put on the spot, made to squirm a little for the sake of public scrutiny and the politicians put on a show that they're doing their best for the public. Nothing however changes, the corporations and businesses carry on with business as usual and the government looks like it has done something. It's a soap opera for government to show the public.
@davidw4970
3 жыл бұрын
Given google is known to be seeded by and was a start up born out of the NSA and CIA and their specific strategy to create mass data gathering and “birds of a feather” surveillance, with links and access very much part of the ongoing deal years later, there’s a good reason why they ultimately do not get investigated and pushed too hard to follow the law/tax regulations. I use Google, but do so in the knowledge that everything is tracked, analysed at macro level and available to be analysed at micro level should I look at anything bordering on security concern that flags up. Anyone who doesn’t know this and uses Google and especially Google-map tech on their smart devices may be surprised to learn the extent that their data, content and physical movement is available to be scrutinised.
@JohnnyMotel99
3 жыл бұрын
These Corps all employ ex HMRC tax experts, or use their services as consultants. So it’s no wonder they manage to slip out of any HMRC net. I suspect that HMRC prefers to go after low hanging fruit rather than get caught up in years of legal wrangling with big Corps.
@spacefx1340
3 жыл бұрын
Spot on and I bet he'll get a bonus for his troubles..
@joemcneff2521
3 жыл бұрын
Or it’s not as controlled as that and they really are that toothless and incapable of going after big business.
@gazsm1
3 жыл бұрын
@@joemcneff2521 I would suspect a bit of both but I would lean more to the side of politicians being 'toothless' as they would, personally, lose massive financial gain. It's not politicians who are in charge or decide how this country is run, it's the business, media and financial corporations.
@Ali1986Koksal
3 жыл бұрын
These things will NEVER fail to make me laugh because the person who is being grilled can NEVER answer a straight question with a straight answer!!
@YusuphYT
3 жыл бұрын
Because they are not allowed to. It’s their job, most average people would do the exact same thing.
@ColinRichardson
3 жыл бұрын
The problem happens when, if a straight answer is given, it is artificially ladened with false conclusions. **Court case to determine if a man has cheated** "In your entire life, have you ever looked at a women?" - "Yes" "The man has pleaded guilty your honor"
@krisb-travel
Жыл бұрын
why would he give a straight answer to the govt? only plebs and sheep go bah bah, smart savy businessmen dont bend for govt, they do what this guy is doing, fighiting back by NOT giving them the power of questioning/answers.
@mirkotorresani9615
Жыл бұрын
Maybe some answered cannot be straight, have you ever thought about that? Maybe some answers are complex.
@Kalenz1234
Жыл бұрын
Politicians being frustrated about vague answers avoiding questions. The irony..
@JoJo-xb7do
3 жыл бұрын
Why they have these enquiries nothing will change. Its a political performance.
@bunion44
3 жыл бұрын
For this reason they are actually damaging, basically just an enabler for the governments misconduct.
@MsNaplin113
3 жыл бұрын
👏
@bikeman123
Жыл бұрын
And here we are 9 years later and nothings changed. Surely Googles tax bill is a big enough prize worth chasing? They'd put more effort in collecting a parking ticket.
@BenyaminLimanto
Жыл бұрын
A lot of lobbying. They already paid the upper eccellon to not pry further as simple as that
@merlin5476
Жыл бұрын
Google's tax bill could easily be used to pay for the hoteliers to keep our oversea friends happy,.....for a while.
@SirThorney
Жыл бұрын
It has changed - Digital Services Tax now applies as of 2021
@rhodrijohn7411
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that in 2015, Google paid around 0.001% tax, it equated to millions but imagine if you or I tried paying that percentage in tax, we'd be getting bummed in the showers within a week
@Kalenz1234
Жыл бұрын
If you are the politician that got google/youtube blocked in your country cause you went after them your career is over. ;) Not to mention google can also just bankroll the voting campaigns of any rivals.
@jameshblack
Жыл бұрын
This guy tells better lies than the politicians who are questioning him
@DaverowUK
Жыл бұрын
Because the best bullshiters work in the private sector not the public.
@craigboden9455
Жыл бұрын
He knows the same lies they use and that's why he's smiling at them.
@thebackup2121
Жыл бұрын
It is a tax question to him, as FOR TAX PURPOSES the sales would take place wherever they say it does to pay as little tax as they can 🤦♂️
@94josema
Жыл бұрын
And then they will tell us that they are better with self checking.
@SmartStr33t
3 жыл бұрын
They are trying to ask moral questions and he is answering with a legal answer. MPs could close tax loopholes overnight if they wanted to but there's a reason they do not.
@terribleanimator4789
3 жыл бұрын
Why don't they
@brettharter143
3 жыл бұрын
No they cant, a new loophole will then be discovered. You have no idea what your talking about lol.
@SmartStr33t
3 жыл бұрын
@@terribleanimator4789 For example tax breaks are introduced into the British film industry to encourage creativity and stimulate our cultural standing in the world, and then wealthy people invest their profits into film so they can avoid paying tax. See the case against Richard Driscoll and his investors in the making of the film Eldorado. The government wants to stimulate this industry so they offer tax breaks, which drives investment, but then it also encourages unscrupulous millionaires to take advantage of the system.
@yetidodger6650
Жыл бұрын
@@brettharter143 there's no such thing as a loophole, they are tax laws that are designed to help the rich avoid tax......you don't know what you're talking about.
@impyrobot
Жыл бұрын
@@brettharter143 there's no such thing as a loophole if they wanted to tax them fairly they're simply in bed with them
@subbedtodeath2051
Жыл бұрын
Love the line “i’m not an expert”. Ignorance is bliss
@2011hwalker
Жыл бұрын
well he has been thoroughly briefed on how to answer these questions, its all legal speak. Do you think he waltzed into this hearing?
@littleman787
Жыл бұрын
@@2011hwalker No but he certainly waltzed out
@GiraffeFeatures
Жыл бұрын
He also absolutely will know the ins and outs as a part of his job so it’s feigned ignorance.
@trevisonclark7135
3 жыл бұрын
Politicians always ask yes or no questions but never answer them.
@callummunro5400
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but in this case they are at least acting in our interest.
@trevisonclark7135
3 жыл бұрын
Or pretending to
@jordan3012000
3 жыл бұрын
@@callummunro5400 scrounging more taxes that they can backroom deal to their mates
@KieranDevvs
3 жыл бұрын
That's because the questions they ask aren't binary. *Man owns a house but doesn't live there so they get a reduced council tax bill* *Gets taken to court over not paying council tax* Prosecutor: Are you aware you should be paying council tax? Home owner: The property is unvacated s.... Prosecutor: YES OR NO? ITS A SIMPLE QUESTION
@kitsilanocat
Жыл бұрын
Ah Google, a proud Irish company
@fman02
3 жыл бұрын
Look fold, we ain’t paying more tax in the UK. Can I go now?
@nicholash2490
3 жыл бұрын
If only there were people in that room that had the power to change the rules........
@jimlofts5433
Жыл бұрын
you mean like pollies ??
@Christianfighter101
Жыл бұрын
Something annoying about watching mp’s who never ever ever answer a question straight, getting annoyed at someone for behaving how they have for the past 50 years
@audigex
3 жыл бұрын
Why don't we just change the wording of the law: "If the customer is in the UK, the sale is considered to take place in the UK"
@Zantonny
Жыл бұрын
In honesty, I have learnt over many years that when someone tries to force you to give a "Yes or no" answer, you should always refuse and insist on elaborating. "Yes or no" questions are designed to trap you into agreeing to statements or views that you do not, or to have you confess to an action that you didn't do.
@konfunable
Жыл бұрын
Except it IS a yes or no question. That mother f*cker knows very well they are stealing money from all the countries and he does not care.
@davyroger3773
Жыл бұрын
Tis true, but sometimes they are useful in sussing out a contradiction or weak point in the argument of the accused
@Zantonny
Жыл бұрын
@@davyroger3773 Absolutely. But that's why if you're the one who's accused, you should never answer a yes/no question.
@DCJNewsMedia
4 жыл бұрын
It's sold in the UK..... Businesses try and say it's sold in a location that bennifits them....not reality
@antonydandrea
3 жыл бұрын
The laws are outdated. Before Internet, selling occurred on location, now a sever can be anywhere in the world
@DCJNewsMedia
3 жыл бұрын
@@antonydandrea ..it doesn't matter WHERE the server is...but where is the product located. Where is the seller located. These are the questions....not where you can pretend to be located in a fantasy world.
@jamesmurphy7442
3 жыл бұрын
BHPB tried this in Oz, by setting up a company in Singapore! Total construct to evade OZ tax. Bottom line, the tax office grew a pair and stuffed them. Years and millions later BHPB paid tax!
@DCJNewsMedia
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmurphy7442 wow did not know that... thanks for sharing. I like to share information and to get information. It's most excellent in the 370° arena. Always look up.... that is the one place most people don't look.
@markfox1545
3 жыл бұрын
Bennifits. 🤣🤣🤣
@nagualdesign
3 жыл бұрын
Many years ago - centuries, in fact - business owners would be summoned once a year to the village hall where they would declare their earnings and pay tithes (taxes). The wealthiest would be proud to be seen supporting their communities, and were well respected. These days it's almost rude to ask someone about their earnings, businesses hide behind a mask, and community spirit has given way to the pursuit of personal wealth and consumerism. Large corporations provide jobs but do everything they can to avoid taxes, or give anything positive to society at all. The world's full of c***s.
@zaialam6267
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, bunch of pricks
@yko787
Жыл бұрын
Centuries ago tax burden was nothing compared to modern "standards". So no wonder. It is crazy to withdraw more than 50% of GDP in taxes and yet it happens. There are number of studies on tax tolerance threshold: it is higher in small uniform communities and lower in large socially-differentiated federal states, it is obvious that for multinational companies it is even lower.
@HungryLoki
Жыл бұрын
@@yko787 What country is that where 50% of the GDP goes to taxes? I checked the US and it's about 10%, I find those 50% of yours highly suspicious.
@yko787
Жыл бұрын
@@HungryLoki How did you get 10%? Google tax to GDP ratio, the first link yields 26,6% lookup in wikipedia "List of sovereign states by tax revenue to GDP ratio" there are a number of links there that show some European countries cross 50% ratio in recent years. My own source was from non-english book on history of economic growth that states that by 1980 government spendig (not income) in Austria Belgium and Sweeden cross 50% GDP mark (OECD historical statistics 1960-1993 OECD 1995, p. 72) In Ireland government spending almost doubled from 1960-1980 period. By the way in 1913 government income to GDP in USA was 7%.
@kathrynhobbs8874
Жыл бұрын
9 years ago…….and NOTHING has changed!,,,,
@KevinColt
Жыл бұрын
This is a lot more straight forward than what it looks like in this video, none of this matters, its like getting a subpoena in america. These guys only meat for lawful purposes and legal obligations, the truth is nothing ever will come out of these meetings, nothing will ever change either because Google and companies follow the law exactly how its written, especially in UK. Having headquarters abroad in states with 0 taxes, and claiming losses in UK, etc etc etc.. its all just the law at it was written.. all this show is for the public, and required by law to happen if X triggers Y, but everyone in this meeting already knows everything before it even starts, and nothing will change regardless what its said or questioned.
@TheFatNumpty
Жыл бұрын
Why, this man appears to be evasive, economical with the truth and unwilling to give a straight answer. I wonder, has he ever considered a career in politics? 🤔🤔
@MrMarkhall1
2 жыл бұрын
This is proof big business is more powerful than government.
@cyrussabaee7907
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting how this hasn’t got that much views I wonder Google
@RyanADillon
3 жыл бұрын
The video is almost 8 years old. Loads of C4 videos from back in 2013 have less than 1,000 views because back in 2013 they were a nothing channel with very few subscribers.
@user-ve9tu5rv6e
3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanADillon don’t bother with the tinfoil hat karens
@simoping
3 жыл бұрын
Defending the indefensible in front of a panel who themselves treat question avoidance like their own tax avoidance
@baldeepbirak
Жыл бұрын
Have a law that forces tech companies to pay tax in the country they trade in (not where they are based). Enforce the law. Fine the companies breaking the law. Then the working class don't have to struggle because big tech evades laws allowing them to pay a fraction of their profits instead of the true tax percentages.
@snaky7812
Жыл бұрын
Google is one of the top contributors to the British economy, if nothing else, then in the thousands of people they employ here. They have the UK Government in their back pocket. They wouldn't dare upset them.
@Gongolongo
Жыл бұрын
That's not how this works at all
@kamelionify
Жыл бұрын
@@snaky7812 They work in Ireland which isn't part of the UK
@krisb-travel
Жыл бұрын
@@kamelionify google has thousands of employees in the uk
@caezar55
3 жыл бұрын
He should have said that google pays VAT on the sale in the UK. But the tax on profits is rightly paid in Ireland where the European company is HQ'd
@artgreen6915
Жыл бұрын
In your comment 'rightly' is glossing over a lot.
@jimlofts5433
Жыл бұрын
But the tax on profits is rightly paid in Ireland where the European company is HQ'd - BUT the deduction by a business trading with Google is paid in UK - so no tax but paid deductions - lose lose
@paul8161
Жыл бұрын
The phrase he's actually. Meaning to avoid saying is for the purpose of tax evasion..Obviously he will never admit sales are made in the UK to precisely avoid any tax to be paid on that sale.
@kamelionify
Жыл бұрын
It's about time they started waterboarding these executives of tax avoiding companies...
@keithburnett-i7f
Жыл бұрын
Gets asked the same questions in Ireland & answers that the sales are taking place in the UK...win win!!
@derekreed6798
Жыл бұрын
As an ordinary bog standard UK resident I can't even 'avoid' paying tax. It is not illegal but the banking cartel in UK wont give you a bank account if you do it..I bet Google get a business account with these same banks?
@scottnunnemaker5209
Жыл бұрын
The UK owns a few tax havens, if they are worried about people not paying their fair share, maybe they need to closing down their own tax havens and tax loophole laws instead of getting angry at someone for exploiting them.
@clairestark9024
Жыл бұрын
I cannot help but notice you're complaining about politicians doing their actual jobs for a change. Maybe your attitude is self defeating?
@riikki___
Жыл бұрын
@@clairestark9024 this is effectively one robber baron being annoyed that another isn’t paying him
@clairestark9024
Жыл бұрын
@@riikki___ no its being a dumb shill for corporations a is bad distrust a ergo I'm going to muddy the waters on b. The scary thing is they don't even pay people to do this.
@asmo2183
Жыл бұрын
@@clairestark9024 You're very ignorant and naïve. Please educate yourself!
@Person01234
Жыл бұрын
They don't "own" anything. And whilst I think tax havens should come into compliance with international transparency standards, it will be for nothing if 1. Corporations are just allowed to get away with dodging taxes anyway or 2. the tax code allows them to shuffle money around and get away with not paying taxes. The problem is with domestic taxation policies and their enforcement, not some outside evil. The UK government has the power to get all it's tax money if it wanted to go after it genuinely. As it is this is just toothless posturing, nothing substantial will happen to google and the honest taxpayer will continue to suffer these people getting away with negative taxes.
@alfedge9527
Жыл бұрын
When he claimed to not know the tax laws, they could’ve suggested he google it???
@samuelmather2469
Жыл бұрын
make the law better and prosecute breaches. what's the point of these embarrassing committees?
@davidnavratil5349
Жыл бұрын
2:30 "I've tried to describe very clearly..." A representative of the pinnacle of human righteousness cannot give a straight answer.
@phily8093
3 жыл бұрын
7 years on ... no change here
@miguelnappo2535
Жыл бұрын
He says “customers in the UK” accidentally, billed from Ireland, but on a clear UK deal. Extracting money from UK firms to a different place to save corporation tax. Disgusting that the UK’s lax laws allow this.
@K61r
Жыл бұрын
Yes. I am watching this in the UK, KZitem is an ad platform, I watch ads, yes you are selling, pay tax
@adrianxenia5670
5 жыл бұрын
This Google head is a suss character, this is a hornets nest sitting on a barrel of snakes in side a cubed full of skeletons in a haunted house built over a grave yard & throw in some slime with that !
@Samara.Weaving
3 жыл бұрын
He's too rich to punish for criminal behaviour.
@lwo7736
3 жыл бұрын
Funny, if I got grilled by the hmrc for not paying enough Corp tax, I wonder if I could use the phrase "Well I'm not actually a tax expert" No? Then stop the meeting and then demand they send someone in the company who is
@markambrose9622
2 жыл бұрын
If the MPs don’t like the game change the rules
@markambrose9622
2 жыл бұрын
Google have the best tax lawyers on the planet so I guarantee they are not breaking the law
@leeamison3179
Жыл бұрын
Make them restrict their sales to Ireland.
@lil-g4879
Жыл бұрын
9 years later and they still aren’t paying tax. So this achieved nowt.
@Dioptreskillz
3 жыл бұрын
he should Google the answers to some of the questions. Blatant tax evasion me thinks. Ireland has given the likes of Amazon and Google a free bus pass including the damn bus!
@GerLeahy
Жыл бұрын
These companies like to think they live in a fairytale universe where the general rules of society are beneath them and don't apply to them.
@jasonknight2824
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how these directors just don’t seem to know the answers ever
@ChrisWar666
Жыл бұрын
"customers in the UK".... I think that settles it, tbh
@TheHungryPigeon
Жыл бұрын
I don't think it does. If you own a little motorbike shop in the UK and you start selling parts online and someone buys a bike wheel from you in Germany, was the sale made in Germany or the UK? The idea you could be dragged before a German court for not paying them tax, despite the fact a German web user went to your UK based site and purchased the item directly from you and paid for shipping from you to Germany would be ludicrous. The bottom line here really is that Ireland were smart in the 80's and lured in all these big tech companies with lower corp tax. Now the rest of Europe is paying the price for it. They don't 'avoid tax', they pay it to the Irish instead!
@ChrisWar666
Жыл бұрын
@@TheHungryPigeon gosh what a horrible scenario! If only there were some sort of joint sales, of togetherness.... a union if you will! Then you could, say, have the free movement of goods and services. Someone really should invent one..... And we're not talking about a small bike shop posting physical goods (which still would have to pay tax, but that responsibility is split between VAT [zero rated for exports] at point of sale/packing [UK]; and import tax at point of receipt [Deutsche Post], which can get included in the postage cost or charged at the post office), we're talking about a massive multinational corporation, with branches everywhere. The sales people come from that branch, the advert is bought in the UK and paid for in pounds. Google can do what they like between their branches (HQ in Ireland and sales in the UK), but the whole process happened in the UK.... Pay the damn taxes!!
@TheHungryPigeon
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisWar666 Even when we were in the EU you were forced to pay and register for VAT in every other country once you hit their trading thresholds, which could be as low as 25k. You then had to maintain all these records, pay accountants extra money etc. And why? Because someone from that country wants. your product? I understand if you have offices in that country, if you ship from that country, etc. etc. but if you're not connected to that country then why should you pay their taxes? They are buying from you.
@MichaelDoran23
Жыл бұрын
@The Hungry Pigeon that is true, however even Ireland claims very little of that tax. The benefit is the companies coming to Ireland and providing jobs etc. We now have our own problem that this created, now we have US funds coming in and buying up all the housing making it completely unaffordable for most people to buy or rent a home. Apparently we all have salaries here of over 50k and we are well off. I can tell you that's not true lol. All the money from the US maybe in Irish accounts and that props up our economy, the real fact is, we are no better off than any other country and still the Irish government is reluctant to take the money from the big business in fear they pack up and leave.
@MichaelDoran23
Жыл бұрын
@The Hungry Pigeon that is true, however we live in a globalised world, only a portion will be spent locally alot will be spend online for goods and services.
@michaelcooke8437
Жыл бұрын
For forty years this problem exist with Ireland . No progress is being made . These politicians appear to only offer frustration not solutions..
@NibberKSmooth
3 жыл бұрын
The longer the answer the more obvious the denial, deviation and deflection.
@Misshowzat
Жыл бұрын
They make so much money yet they're so arrogant about paying basic tax
@Driver2616
3 жыл бұрын
Of course the sale takes place in Ireland but the purchase takes place in the U.K. all of us buy things online from a whole range of countries around the world and in doing that the purchase takes place in whatever country the purchaser is based and the sale takes place in whatever country the seller is based. Surely that’s clear to anybody with more than two brain cells.
@jimlofts5433
Жыл бұрын
and for a business buying such services they claim a tax deduction , not in country of purchase but the UK etc lose lose
@kjn3350
Жыл бұрын
So then Google shouldn't be taxed in the UK as they did not make a sale in the UK, right? A lot of people in the comments seem to think that Google is not paying any tax at all to anyone, but they're being taxed by Ireland.
@darrennew8211
Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why having geographic jurisdictions doesn't make sense any more. It made sense when 95% of all economics involved farming. Now we need a government of medicine, a government of media, a government of transportation, etc. Not a government of Ireland and a government of Mexico.
@SM_zzz
3 жыл бұрын
They keep interrupting, not letting him answer.
@johnvonhorn2942
3 жыл бұрын
MPs were incredulous and then did nothing about it.
@mattg5878
3 жыл бұрын
Classic Maybe cause they were told by all of Google’s mates who are in the cabinet and shadow cabinet to pipe down.
@kayenbey
3 жыл бұрын
Put this guy and his cronies in jail for tax evasion as would happen to everyone if they are a normal tax paying citizens.
@ikikatabudoacademy-okinawa1688
3 жыл бұрын
So if I want to Claim for a refund from Google for poor service, and they don’t respond and I have to take them to court, would I have to go to Ireland ?
@chavzone
Жыл бұрын
More like "MPs struggle to get Google boss to fall into obvious trap"
@MrMvms
Жыл бұрын
Google Ireland owns most of the tech and license it out to google in each country. A sale takes place in the UK but if Ireland Google charged UK Google 0.01$ more than they earned it suddenly becomes an untaxable loss in the eyes of Google UK. That’s how this happens.
@paulcope834
Жыл бұрын
He's not sure. I want to do business with companies that pay tax fairly in the UK.
@davidwalsh6608
Жыл бұрын
The Sales office is in Ireland, the domicile of the service is in Ireland. The service generally is advertising. The advertising is generally loaded via a computer in the UK via a modem and onto a telephone cable. The advertisement is loaded onto the Facebook website which is on an offshore server. The ad is accessed generally from a UK computer that accesses the Facebook website which is loaded onto an offshore server. The service provided is largely the use of the Facebook Intellectual Property which is legally located in the West Indies, and access to the Facebook Site which is on an offshore server farm. Although the load and access is in the UK, the website is offshore, the contract was with a company within the EU so not subject to VAT. Its a hard thing to define and needs a legal expert. It is either a political stunt or politically nieve to expect him to answer such a loaded question.
@I-Love-Taylor-Swift
Жыл бұрын
...and this is why I never use Google for anything.
@malthenielsen1370
Жыл бұрын
these are the processes leading to the downfall end stage of a stagnated society. Massive corporation smiling and arguing about our simple human linguistics instead of policy. These people are key influencers of our modern state
@heliotropezzz333
Жыл бұрын
'I'm not a tax expert' seems to be the standard reply. Committee: 'Are you aware that case law in the US and the UK says that the sale takes place in the country where the customer is? Reply: 'I'm not aware of the rules, ' well he should be after this session and as Vice President, why is he so ignorant? They're simply tax evaders and HMRC should get after them. Also, it's no good having select committees if the government ignores their conclusions.
@ferretscoutcar
Жыл бұрын
Don’t how the panel keep their feet out off him ffs!!
@hydra66
Жыл бұрын
If the sale is in Ireland, why does it take place every time we view an ad here?
@CheezmonkeyUK
Жыл бұрын
one of my biggest beefs in politics (an in general) is the ”yes or no” ultimatum. Can’t tell if it’s really smart or a cheap wat of backing someone into a corner, and to make them look daft.
@MrMonkey2150
Жыл бұрын
Just stall them 😂, I feel like being a good politician is all about knowing how to repeating yourself without sounding like you are repeating yourself
@gardengnome3249
Жыл бұрын
You know it's going to be a lie whatever comes out of their mouths when after the 3rd ask it's still waffle.
@stevewa4552
11 ай бұрын
Google - We Will Avoid Tax at every opportunity
@panama-canada
Жыл бұрын
Don’t be evil, Google.
@legacyofpop
Жыл бұрын
I need to ask that guy how to bullsh*t my way out of PAYE and national insurance.
@Prhbuild
Жыл бұрын
Corrupt fighting the Corrupt. UTTER MADNESS
@flashbeaster
3 жыл бұрын
UK is for US what Gibraltar is for UK, extra points for squeezing the competition ! Daring madlads, I would wish them a win
@TheMarkcarmichael3
Жыл бұрын
More slippery than a worm in a bucket of snot.
@kevinshanahan6064
Жыл бұрын
Like the man said he is not an expert. he is just there to BS.
@DigiDriftZone
Жыл бұрын
Imagine I call up a shop in the US and say I want to buy this camera lens. If the shop then sells me the camera lens, they are required by UK tax law to keep a separate set of books and collect tax specifically for the UK - I know several businesses personally that upon learning this rule decided to stop selling goods into the UK.
@mikehindley3
Жыл бұрын
ignoring the other major practical and regulatory difficulties in selling fresh dairy products direct to consumers across the atlantic, i think cheesecake is VAT exempt
@jimlofts5433
Жыл бұрын
Imagine your in business pay for the camera lens in the USA so no tax paid by that business in the UK But you claim a deduction for the camera lens - the govt gets no tax and pays you the deduction - either ban the tax avoidance or ban the deduction
@DigiDriftZone
Жыл бұрын
@@jimlofts5433 What tax deduction? - I am a business in the UK and I am not aware of any tax deduction. You mean something like if I hire a maintenance man and that maintenance man is not VAT registered, I can still claim his work as a business expense on the books? - then.. what do you propose, that anyone who isn't VAT registered in the UK cannot be a business expense?
@jimlofts5433
Жыл бұрын
@@DigiDriftZone In Australia you buy eqpt or services - you claim that cost against your tax as a business expense eg fuel for your car 50 pounds and that is an allowed deduction as a cost of doing business / you can claim the cost of an accountant to do your books - we also have GST on some goods at 10%
@DigiDriftZone
Жыл бұрын
@@jimlofts5433 Good to know as I am just about done with London and looking to move my business to Sydney :)
@user-hm8wf2jf1h
Жыл бұрын
The irony of a British institution accusing any other country of ‘stealing’ from U.K. 😂😂😂😂😂 Yours in Schadenfreude, most sincerely Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
@kenmacfarlane8744
3 жыл бұрын
He didn't seem to know much !
@maxmoore9955
Жыл бұрын
These big companies want jumping on and fast .it really pisses me off .
@BinanceUSD
Жыл бұрын
I would rather Google keep the money they earned it! Plus they will spend it better than a bureaucrat 🍾keeping jobless trapped
@mattmccann2359
Жыл бұрын
Hungry British Politicians always trying to get a bigger slice
@paul8161
Жыл бұрын
It seems to me the bigger the organisation is the less tax they will pay...if you have a company making billions in profit and your paying out a fraction of that in tax to obviously what your making in profit..Obviously millions in tax sounds like a lot but it's a relative to what your making in the first place...the Googles of the word will have a strategy for most if not all situations including how to minimise paying tax and will pursue that will real vigor to maximise there profits to the investors and company....not only that but as stated in the video they will be working with HMRC to minimise there tax paid...Obviously the government wont want to scare them 9ff by taxing them into submission.
@ollie4022
Жыл бұрын
Well, it is a big fraction admittedly, seeing as their taxes account for 4% of their COGS, interest and operating costs. I am by no means defending them, but there are bigger culprits for tax evasion at work than Alphabet that don't necessarily make more net revenue (for example, Microsoft has a lower net revenue, but a larger profit margin than Alphabet, meaning their effective tax rate must be lower). Companies that make much less money like the programming and digital media company EA pay peanuts in tax, their effective tax rate is a mere 4%, which is several times smaller than Alphabet or Apple.
@Krytern
Жыл бұрын
Activision, one of the biggest gaming companies in the world making billions of PROFIT (not just income) a year actually got a tax REBATE one year.... Costing tax payers money... Hilarious.
@mattoniy2840
Жыл бұрын
It’s because of leverage. They hire thousands in the uk and pay millions into the uk in salaries and tax from salaries. They purchase large buildings and they fuel the economy. Because of that if the country pushes too far they threaten to move and that means net loss for the country.
@paul8161
Жыл бұрын
@@Krytern probably only hilarious if you own the company but i get your point it's outrageous. 😏🙄
@paul8161
Жыл бұрын
@@mattoniy2840 Thanks for your well written and explained reply.😎
@phranklyn
3 жыл бұрын
Dude in the blue shirt needs some situational awareness and to sit back so the guy asking the question isn't constantly blocked.
@bearsbreeches
Жыл бұрын
Come on Google we know this is just about avoiding tax in a country where you make lots of money. It's not nice is it?
@zahidhakim5727
Жыл бұрын
How relevant for the 1st January Corporation Tax deadline
@johnmcdonald8298
Жыл бұрын
It is clear that the Google Executive is being extremely evasive , to the point of acting in a greasy and dishonest manner . The sort of answer I would expect to come from legal advisers , acting for Merchant Bankers , and the Fanny May Scammers a decade ago .
@JB-oo3cw
3 жыл бұрын
When he says he isn't a tax expert but they have tax experts and hmrc ask questions..... he is clearly distancing himself from the issue. How a tech company is structured and its social responsibility etc. is exactly what he is paid to work through. If the tax experts give the cheapest option but the company feel it isn't morally acceptable - then they can instruct their 'tax experts' to find a better fitting solution. He doesn't even try to defend it or say that he thinks Google isn't do anything wrong. What other areas of business isn't he an expert in that he can't take any responsibility, or give a straight answer to? He sounds incompetent.
@UN1QUE-77
3 жыл бұрын
It is the question of selling and then explain what is selling but won’t answer the question
@casiopistachio1107
Жыл бұрын
It's disgusting how these companies have clearly set up their businesses to avoid tax, talking about technicalities when they are one of the largest tech companies in the world is bizarre if you thing about it, a reasonable person would think that they if anyone would be front and centre for taxation it would be them. I swear if the only way they could squeeze out of tax was to build a manned cubicle on the moon that all transactions go through they would, and they would have some nob like that guy act like what they are doing is perfectly normal and justified.
@chucknutbraker
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I use Ecosia, I plant trees when I search the web, as oppose to avoiding tax.
@JackHGUK
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah my whole org has used ecosia for the last year, ngl I'm doubtful that they are really planting the trees.
@adder2204
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't seem to hard to me, either they are in Ireland and therefore the people are importing the product and if it is over £30 should be changed a duty and therefore making Googles product more epesive, or they set up an office in the UK and pay their taxes, either way the taxman gets theirs but Google lose out business because of higher prices, assuming they pay taxes in Ireland.
@Think4aChange
Жыл бұрын
Video is 9 years old lad.
@alexm566
3 жыл бұрын
criminals questioning other criminal and are mad he's answering like they always do when questioned 🙄
@Scapestoat
Жыл бұрын
This seems so very British. "If I buy something from an other country, don't you agree that actually, I am buying it here?" Loaded questions suck. The whole thing seems to be "Here in Britain we like money. Could we have more of it please and thank you.".
@arekkrolak6320
3 жыл бұрын
In UK you have to convince each taxpayer he should pay his taxes before he does?
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