I have an M22 and I LOVE it. As soon as the email dropped I grabbed up the M23 26L. I love all the new additions. I chose the 26L for the one-bag travel capabilities. I have used the M22 as a ultralight/warm-weather one-bag travel option. The little extra room in the M23 may be the "Goldilocks" for me. The size may not work for others, but I can travel VERY light even in colder temps. Super excited to get my hands on it and start "configuring my loadout"!!
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Nice!! I have the big brother on the way to compare too
@toodamnskippy6220
10 ай бұрын
At this point GORUCK is competing with itself and confusing new and long time buyers with sizes and materials. I’m happy to see new models coming out but they’ve disappointed a lot of people by not producing more G22s. All the new materials for the bullets are interesting but the plethora of size/material combos is hard to keep track of. The new 35L GR3 is a brilliant move, they just need to offer more colours. They’re going to make a lot of people happy and are reducing the pressure on SCARS with all of its features. The long term reliability testing is a great angle, looking forward to the next dragging. Your enthusiasm is contagious, thanks for another interesting review.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate your comments always. My intent with the bullet video was to try and simplify some of the newness. Looks like a need a GORUCK for DUMMIES video to explain the current state of affairs maybe
@CeeMKE
10 ай бұрын
Great video as usual. I REALLY like the M23. I love external hidden bottle pockets. Can’t stand bottles sticking out the sides of bags. I put my bottles inside or grab something to drink on the go. Outdoor bags with external bottle pockets are ok, that’s part of what an outdoor bag is for. Otherwise No for me. This I think would be a mostly outdoor bag. The ‘Bat Wings’ you mentioned are called ‘Gussets’ lol 😆😊
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Haha, yeah when editing I realized I totally blanked on the correct term for those. Thanks!!
@steveball23
10 ай бұрын
First the two compartment bullet BR2, and now this!? Strong 2023 finish Goruck - 'golf clap' 👏
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
👍🏻👊🏻
@Duanewrites
9 ай бұрын
I returned my 26L M23 and picked up a 21L version. I really like this bag. It's a little short, but I think it's better for EDC. 26L GR1 is still my go to if I need carry a lot of stuff. Thanks for the great videos.
@JBOutside1
9 ай бұрын
Very nice! Yeah that 26L is way bigger than 26L
@Losersluck_
10 ай бұрын
Grabbed one as soon as the email/text went out. Loved the m22 but felt it was just a little too small for onebag travel. Got the 26L because a 26L gr1 has been my go to for onebag traveling.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Nice! I'm not sure how I feel about the 26L so let me know what you think
@ozdiko
10 ай бұрын
Great video once again. Would love one in the waxed canvas they used for the kit bags.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Me too! Let's hope!
@floresjcf
10 ай бұрын
Great review. Thank you!
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
You bet! Thanks for watching!
@justinblakeman1364
10 ай бұрын
I’ve got one on the way going with the 26L. I like the idea that I could put a ruck plate in the stretch pocket on the newest version.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Nice JB!
@footballstubz6386
10 ай бұрын
Comparing the GR1 and M23 dimensions (21L and 26L), the M23 dimensions are way bigger and yet they're listed as the same liter capacity as the GR1s. Would love to see a comparison video if the M23s indeed fit more based on the larger dimensions of the bags. GR1 21L Dimensions: 11.5"W x 18"H x 5.5"D / 21L Weight: 2.8 LBS GR1 26L Dimensions: 12"W x 20"H x 6.75"D / 26L Weight: 3.1 LBS M23 Dimensions 21L: 14.5"W x 7.5"D x 19"H; Weight: 2.8lbs M23 Dimensions 26L: 14.5”W x 8.5”D x 21.5”H; Weight: 3.1lbs
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Good question. Let me see what I can do.
@johneroyale
10 ай бұрын
I wish I had seen this comment before I impulsively bought the 26L...maybe I should get the 21L and send back the one I don't keep. I currently EDC the GR2 26L.
@thirtysixforfun
10 ай бұрын
Great video but I love how every zipper pull was a first attempt then a realization that the other hand was needed
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Haha, I didn’t notice…✋🏻🤚🏻
@PureToxin
10 ай бұрын
Glad they released a new variant, hope they bring back a ranger green 500d version.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I think they definitely will, just not sure when exactly
@DingoOG
10 ай бұрын
I ordered the 21l too. Missed always the M22 so I am happy on the new M23. The only thing is I am normally not the black backpack guy. OD or khaki would be nice but anyway 🤷🏼
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I hear ya...I bet we see new colors in the future..just not sure when
@footballstubz6386
4 ай бұрын
Just received the M23 21L black/red 500d edition. Fully packed out and the width is less than 12 inches and no where close to the 14.5 inches stated on the website.
@JBOutside1
4 ай бұрын
Interesting
@footballstubz6386
4 ай бұрын
@@JBOutside1 fully packed out are the robic or waxed versions of the M23 21l 14.5 inches across?
@patricklescano
9 ай бұрын
Awesome review. Just wondering, do you have any updates on the durability of the material? Thanks in advance
@JBOutside1
9 ай бұрын
Not really. It’s still looks new after dragging it around.
@kencox530
10 ай бұрын
Seeing as the top when opened folds over, wouldn’t it have made sense to have the mesh pocket zipper on the other end so your stuff didn’t fall out?? Does anyone designing these packs have any pack experience?! You would think by know with the constant upgrades and changes, these issues would not be occurring.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I see your point!
@peterleong9409
3 ай бұрын
Great video. Does the water bottle compartment of the M23 fits a 64Oz Stanley growler?
@JBOutside1
3 ай бұрын
I don’t have a growler so I can’t verify. Sorry. But the pockets is very sizable and stretchy
@joet2463
10 ай бұрын
Awesome review. I think this would be perfect commuting to work on my Brompton. Curious, does the M23 holds it form when not packed out or stand on its own?
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Not really. It's a pretty loose material when not packed out.
@giraffecolor5681
10 ай бұрын
nice review! thank you! have been looking forward to M23, but not so sure about the new material. would you test rucking with it? with plates, sand bag, dumbbells,,
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
So rucking with the M23, definitely possible. From what I can tell the frame sheet is not quite as thick as a Rucker so plates and sandbags would be good. Dumbell or bulky shaped object I wouldn’t recommend. The harness is standard GORUCK and identical to the Rucker so good there.
@madgreenpea
10 ай бұрын
Which do you prefer more after having it for a little bit. Bullet 18 DC, or M23? I'm interested in both.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
So different. Kinda depends on how you plan to use it. I’m on my second week using the M23 ands solid for sure.
@jasandper
5 ай бұрын
In regards to the gusset flap in the front stash pocket of the M22. This was put in since there were two zippers and if the user chose to have both zippers in the downward position, and didn’t zip all the way, the small opening could allow something small to slip out. But in the M23 since there’s only one zipper and you can only zip upward to close, there’s little risk in anything slipping out.
@JBOutside1
5 ай бұрын
Nice. Makes sense! 🙏🏻
@bigman606
10 ай бұрын
With Goruck changing the pack closures, surprised they didn’t add a Fidlock to the sternum strap.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I agree
@thatchanguy
10 ай бұрын
Good timing!
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
😎
@erichanson5628
10 ай бұрын
Nice video JB!
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Thanks Eric!!
@rfitzpatrickCO
10 ай бұрын
I like the updates and am looking to change out my EDC from my GR1 but I’ll hold out a while to see if they come out with this in a waxed canvas.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Black waxed canvas? That’d be cool 😎
@rfitzpatrickCO
10 ай бұрын
@@JBOutside1 Actually, I’d really like to see waxed ranger green. I think that would be the perfect look for the M23
@1partgeek
10 ай бұрын
6:38 Robic nylon GR1s soon! YEAH!
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
🤐
@jordanleytem5581
10 ай бұрын
It’s interesting this trend of GR going into the 420d space. I think a bag drag would be a great idea to see how well it wears. Definitely a departure from their overbuilt founding, but not bad for those who want that lighter weight edc carry. I personally like the heavier material (wish my MPL22 was 840 instead of 420), but they will start drawing over a different customer base with these newer designs and fabric.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Yes, maybe...I'm still not totally on board just yet, although I do like them
@jordanleytem5581
10 ай бұрын
Ya, I won’t purchase just yet. Want to see long term result. I’m still not totally sold on the 210 back/straps, but haven’t had an issue with mine yet.
@brochg
10 ай бұрын
The M23 checks one HUGE box for me. It has the Fidlock V-Buckles. I am not a fan at all of the bags with a drawstring top, but being able to access the inside of the bag from the side zip makes it acceptable. I do wish it had a big external water bottle pocket, but it does have one through the zipper. I’m on the fence.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Totally worth a shot IMHO
@brochg
10 ай бұрын
@@JBOutside1 Thank you, I’ll take that shot!
@brochg
10 ай бұрын
@@JBOutside1 Thank you for covering this bag. I never would have known about it otherwise.
@doorbox788
10 ай бұрын
i hope they don’t change all their packs to this material.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Totally agree and I don't think we'll ever see a wholesale change over to this exclusively, but I'd bet they offer the GR1s in it to see how it does.
@iftekharuddin
10 ай бұрын
Nice video, JB. Do you think the side access (to the main compartment) be used as a side access to a camera in the bag? E.g., a mirrorless camera with a smaller body. I'm debating between this and the Shimoda 20L Urban Explore camera bag.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Yes, that side access would be perfect for that. Of course it depends on what it's packed in inside the bag.
@iftekharuddin
10 ай бұрын
@@JBOutside1 Thanks! I'll let you know how it goes :D
@jkamp
10 ай бұрын
I really like the idea of the M23 more than the M22. If I wasn't in the middle of buy Christmas gifts, I'd give it a shot. I don't really love top loaders, but with the additional access I'd like to try it. If they figured out a way to give that thing dual front zips so it opened up as a panel similar to a Spartan/Blitz style bag... I think it would be amazing. I really like that large front pocket.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Gotcha. I don't see that happening in this design but that would be cool
@ErykBahla
10 ай бұрын
Just so everyone is tracking I have touched both and sized both the 26 and 21 and the difference in size is INTENSE. I honestly feel like there is just as much capacity in the 26L as my 40-45L hiking bags. Just a heads up.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Good stuff and I do think these are really big at hauling stuff. I'm planning on an update once I get the 26L M23.
@Zimablue16
10 ай бұрын
Hello, could you add a comparison between the m23 and a GR1 26L or a bullet 15 in your future reviews? I own both and curious to see the size difference. Living in the uk is difficult to get one and send it back. Thank you :)
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Planning on doing another size comparison soon. I’ll add those.
@robz2687
10 ай бұрын
Ordered a 26l, never used a top loader before so I’m looking forward to it
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I really hadn’t either and this one converted me
@daredevil2300
10 ай бұрын
Pack looking good Chairman 🫡
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
BOOM!!! 👊🏻
@donberry
10 ай бұрын
Did the water bottle pocket have a drain hole? Something similar to the TAD Axiom S2. Thanks
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Nope. No drains. Which is not idea. Especially since the interior material is just that stretchy stuff and not moisture resistant.
@ayanyac
10 ай бұрын
What do you think of the 26l vs the 21l? I am debating on which one.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, great question and one I am seeing a lot of. Mostly comes down to your height mostly. The design of the bags lets them get over-packed so I'd guess that if you were concerned go with the 21L. Also depends on how you plan to use the bag.
@deb2936
9 ай бұрын
Hi. Would you consider rucking with this bag? Would a 20LB GoRuck plate fit in the 21L laptop compartment? Enjoying your videos. Thank you.
@JBOutside1
9 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely. Either style of GORUCK plate will work. The taller version will be more stable but if you plan to go with a Rucker someday I'd get the shorter style
@deb2936
9 ай бұрын
Excellent. Thanks for the reply. As for the long pocket on the side, I'm thinking it will be a perfect place to store my Dyson hair straightening tool. Yes. A girlie thing. :)@@JBOutside1
@JBOutside1
9 ай бұрын
I would guess so! haha
@AaronGinn-b5x
10 ай бұрын
Great review! Would the full wire dopp fit in that front slide pocket?
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Side pocket, no. Front pocket, yes.
@dylantodd9574
10 ай бұрын
I just ordered one. We'll see. I'm hesitant on the material but I'll give it a go.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Let me know!
@Balthazar2242
7 ай бұрын
The external pockets are great but I just can't chill with a top loader unless it's massive. Otherwise there's no benefit to top loading.
@JBOutside1
7 ай бұрын
Then checkout the 26L M23...you could say it's "massive"
@Alastor3sa
10 ай бұрын
Hi, Nice review thank you ! do you think that’s the stretch pockets on the inner compartments could fit a 15.5 inches laptop ?
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Yes it does!
@seechangenyc280
10 ай бұрын
Super review! You almost talked me into a top loader. Too bad it's a smidge too long for my torso. Amazing how 1/2 an inch up or down makes a difference...me need down: 18.5" ...speaking of nothing (and I might have already asked. Senile), did you say yea or nay to the Dyneema? So much controversy about the zippers...Cheers.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I like the original GRXC1 Dyneema and haven't dabbled in any of the latest builds so I can't speak to it. People complain about the rain flap and my way of dealing with that is to fold it half and it works just fine.
@tomahawkchop7669
10 ай бұрын
Is the M22 discontinued now? Goruck told me the was expecting to get more in around December and now the M23 comes out. I wanted that water bottle pocket on the M22. Not impressed with the materials or design of this bag especially when it isn't a made in the USA either. Too many trade offs for me. Awesome review
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I have to imagine they were referring to the M23 when they sent that reply. I wouldn’t expect any M22s to restock
@byron6836
9 ай бұрын
Recently I have washed my GR1 (26L), however the overall material is 1000D Cordura. So I was wondering, how to wash M23 once it becomes dirty since the material used is 420D Robic Nylon. Any advice?
@JBOutside1
9 ай бұрын
Sorry I haven’t had to wash mine yet but I’d try hand washing first
@firebasecombatstudiesgroup1857
10 ай бұрын
Hope they make a waxed canvas version.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Me too!
@joeshoe2249
10 ай бұрын
I think I'll need azo to make some sorta custom amhara similar to this as I have no use for the laptop compartment.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
That would be cool and I bet they can!
@DaveStern2
7 ай бұрын
bigger laptop compartment for my dell xps 15" and it would have been instabuy .. love everything else about it.
@JBOutside1
7 ай бұрын
Gotcha
@mattwypijewski4192
7 ай бұрын
2 trips with it, using it intermittently as an edc since I got it about 6 weeks ago. Holes already appearing where the drawstring rubs. 🤦🏼♂️
@JBOutside1
7 ай бұрын
Bummer. Contact SCARS
@mattwypijewski4192
7 ай бұрын
@@JBOutside1 follow up: after further inspection it’s the waterproof coating coming off where the drawstring tightens. Not a big deal. Been on a 7 day excursion in Mexico and it’s holding up great.
@JBOutside1
7 ай бұрын
That's great news. Funny you mentioned this because a friend of mine is experiencing the same thing. @@mattwypijewski4192
@mykeljewell
10 ай бұрын
Surprised theres no evergoods in the mix for the EDC shootout. Would love to see what you think about the CHZ22 or even the CPL for a larger-side EDC.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I've done those videos already and these are all new designs. I love my EG bags!
@mykeljewell
10 ай бұрын
@@JBOutside1 Awesome, I didn't know you did an EG EDC shootout. I’ll have to find that vid. Would the MPL22 be a contender in this newest group?
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Mmmm, not really because the others all have a good laptop area.@@mykeljewell
@datdudeinred
10 ай бұрын
Totally off tangent but kinda related :p - I wish these brands start to measure 16" laptops instead of 16"mbp only. As my recycled firefighter 24hr barely fits my lenovo slim 7 16". And that's not that much bigger than mbp 16 anyways. SO it won't make bags bigger. Its not like the difference between 18" laptops vs 16" mbp. This or any goruck will surely not fit normal sized slim 16" windows laptops as the compartment is too stiff fortunately the not so bombproof laptop compartment of recycled firefighter came to rescue I guess. I get it macbooks are ubiquitous but man once you switch from a MacBook to a laptop like I did you realize woah you've been playing with a toy all along. Anther great review as always JB.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I didn't know they still made windows laptops 😜
@vterpko
10 ай бұрын
Your face expressions remind me of my grandma.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I like her already
@Kajukota
10 ай бұрын
Are they just completely moving away from the 1000d cordura? Seems like all the recent releases have been this 500d ripstop. I'm not sure about the durability of this material. Anyone have more insight?
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Agree. That's all we've seen...mostly. Lately, but they haven't abandoned the 500D and 1000D designs. The GR3 is 1000D and 210D.
@HisGraceHisGlory
10 ай бұрын
Great breakdown on the new M23 JB, for myself, I am going to hold-off in the hopes that at some point they offer an X-Pac / Aquaguard version. Really nice upgrades though, and I do agree with you on the one side pocket, bring back the two zipper option.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
We shall see!
@meljohnson8186
10 ай бұрын
Awesome video as per usual! I had been waiting for the M23 to release, excited to try it out!
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
It’s a good one!
@tuckerneal122
10 ай бұрын
Shweet! but i just can't do a draw string top like that...
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I hear ya Tucker...and sometimes I just fold that material in on itself and it's all gone! Easy in and out then!
@peijae1
10 ай бұрын
Goruck is really setting the bar to a higher standard this year: Woodland Waxed collection, GR3 35l, Robic versions, Dual Compartment Bullets and now M23. Thanks for reviewing this awesome new version on release day so we can all see the pack!
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
You bet! Thanks for watching...and they might not be done yet!
@SINBREAKER24
8 ай бұрын
Waiting for a multicam go ruck again.
@JBOutside1
8 ай бұрын
I know!
@johneroyale
10 ай бұрын
I said I wasn't going to, then 2 mins into this video paused it then went and bought the 26l.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Man, that was a powerful 2 minutes!
@johneroyale
10 ай бұрын
@@JBOutside1AND you swayed me from the CTB26!
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
@@johneroyale that’s a powerful sway, love me the CTB26 too.
@johneroyale
10 ай бұрын
So I ended up ordering the 21 and 26l, but the 26l came in today. Transferred my 26l GR2 contents into it and there's a ton of room left. I carry a North Face rain shell, a Goruck Indestructible Fleece pullover (both rolled), a Vanquest Dendrite fanny pack, a Vanquest organizer (boo boo kit), and a 38oz Tal water bottle. I roll the extra material down and cinch down the lid straps and it's good. I took off the sternum strap. I'm only 5'6 but the bag fits great. I'm not even going to unwrap the 21l when it comes.
@vlima7164
10 ай бұрын
Hope they make a tiger stripe M23
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
That would be cool
@vlima7164
10 ай бұрын
Best camo ever alongside m81 woodland@@JBOutside1
@ParkerBinion
10 ай бұрын
The Bullet DC16 stole the show!
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
That bullet is really cool!!
@PanaMaJwaaRd
10 ай бұрын
Still rockin my axioms until somethin beats it.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
The Axiom is a great one for sure. Which version?
@PanaMaJwaaRd
10 ай бұрын
@@JBOutside1 have both 18 and 24. Like the zipper designs over the pocket designs(newer). Most complaints about the bag is why i love it lol... "Water bottle takes internal space". Hiding the bottle while still accessible without opening the main compartment trumps the negative of taking internal space. "Smaller than advertised" my edc tends to be smaller. QAP like evergoods one but not as good but better than not having one. Front admin panel is way better any slip pocket or even evergoods vertical zip(work directly out of this panel). I think the look of the bag stays slim for 24L(my cpl24 epands out like a travel bag when im just trying to edc it ... 😅), (i like that the axiom holds firm shape and not bloat). Bottom zip i throw my keys there so i can swing bag into doors, office, mailbox etc(unlike new design of EG where i have to take the whole bag off and use key loop at the top... Very annoying). Or bags without it in general. Until all these features are beaten, i dont see me moving off it ever. What still shocks me is that this bag was released like 6 years ago.... IMHO, if they released this today, itd be best designed bag, like actually using a bag to date. To be so ahead of the time and fall off as a company is little strange and it sucks, maybe they went off too many directions with offerings 🤷🏻♂️.
@YoutubeWatts
10 ай бұрын
Anyone have a discount codes? 😅
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
Sorry, I don't
@cbassplissken
10 ай бұрын
Lmao. External water bottle pocket who needs that? I almost snapped bought the 26l glad I didn’t.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I’m still undecided on the bottle pocket redesign but I do like that’s it’s not gonna fly out
@costco482
10 ай бұрын
I love the bag. I'm not a fan of rip-stop. I'm going to hold off and see if they come out with a special edition like with Carryology. Or perhaps a Dyneema edition. I also want to see what kind of upgrades SCARS can do. Needs more webbing to make it look more aggressive and tactical. You did point out a lot that I wish GoRuck would have left alone. I'm do like internal water bottle compartments. Especially if you aren't going to make it waterproof. For now I guess i'm going to wait. I was hoping that a new Bullet would come out with a laptop and a top storage compartments. Just can't get it all I guess.
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty confident we'll see some new materials and colors in the M23...as for the features? 🤷🏼♂️
@spaltmass
10 ай бұрын
black only, material downgrade. i like the bootle solution tho
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I'd put real money on more colors and probably 500D coming soon (ripstop colors first I'd guess). As for the material, I'm still not decided yet. I am still in the honeymoon phase with all these robic bags and have like the experience thus far
@McAero08
10 ай бұрын
I really like your content JB but not that you have be a Goruck advertisement tool. :(
@JBOutside1
10 ай бұрын
I hear ya. While I do love the support from them (and the occasional early access) I do provide what I really think on the design. My last review at least in part influenced this design. They in no way tell me what to say in the videos. In fact, I received almost no information on this one except, here's the bag. So I had to break in down in my own way to present it to the masses. 100% all me in this video.
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