I think that on the discussion on bhakti and jnana, this is a relevant statement: "Lila dhore dhore nitye jete hoy; jemon shiri dhore dhore chhade utha. Nityadarshaner por nitya theke lila e eshe thakte hoy. Bhakti-bhakta niye. Eiti paka mot." Which translates to: "A man should reach the Nitya, the Absolute, by following the trail of the Lila, the Relative. It is like reaching the roof by the stairs. After realizing the Absolute, he should climb down to the Relative and live on that plane in the company of devotees, charging his mind with the love of God. This is my final and most mature opinion." And I think this is Vijnana, and is accessible to us all, as is implied in the para. As for the method, I think this para sheds some light: Manilal, a member of the Brahmo Samaj, believed in a formless God. Addressing him, the Master said: "Kabir used to say: 'God with form is my Mother, the formless God my Father. Whom should I blame? Whom should I adore? The two sides of the scales are even.' During the day-time Haladhari used to meditate on God with form, and at night on the formless God. Whichever attitude you adopt, you will certainly realize God if you have firm faith. You may believe in God with form or in God without form, but your faith must be sincere and whole-hearted."
@mallikonduri
4 ай бұрын
About the word 'pramaana', the Telugu speaker is right (I am a Telugu speaker). The word 'maana' can mean 'measure' as well as 'source'. The prefix 'pra' is basically an intensifier. The word maata (mother) is phonetically and etymologically related to the meaning of 'source' (as mother is the source). The other meaning 'measure' can be understood as ultimate measure or primary measure. That is why the 'pramaana' is also used to mean an oath. Because when you take an oath, you take the source as a measure of your commitment.
@mokshajetley9244
11 ай бұрын
Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna
@chinmaydave483
9 ай бұрын
Jay thakur Jay ma Jay swamiji
@mokshajetley9244
11 ай бұрын
Pranaam Swami Medhananda ji
@bratatimukherjee6400
10 ай бұрын
Swamiji, 'matan' here means one of the many evidences or praman.the whole line means, 'the one who realizes her / his true self as the Atman,knows that it is Kali who is her/his real Self .the evidence of this is in Pranab,to give just one example.' our waking, dreaming and deep sleep state's are the Lilakshetra of Kali or the primordial energy. It is by the grace of Kali that even Saguna Brahman manifests!
@mkh2799
11 ай бұрын
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@Vkz1
11 ай бұрын
আত্মারামের আত্মা কালী প্রমাণ প্রণবের মতন Atmaramera = Atmarama's (possessive noun) i.e., one roams around / delights in the Self's Atma = Self Kali = Kali Pramana = Proof Pranabera = Of Pranava Matana = Like One who is absorbed in the Self, their Self is Kali - like the Pranava (could be referring to the Vedas / Scriptures OR could be referring to Source as the other translation said) which is Proof (of the unity of Atma and Kali) Another potential reading could be: Atmaram's Soul is the Proof of Kali, as is the Pranava (Vedas) i.e., an Enlightened One's life / character / self / Self / spiritual experience of the Self is the proof of Kali's existence, in the same way the Vedas are also considered Pramaana of Kali (God)
@The_Gita_
11 ай бұрын
I think putting him and her both as representation God Gender when re translating will be better..Because Sri Ramakrishna would have used femine gender if he wanted to ..He used non gender words to represent God because he had already thought about the vastness of His teachings..If we limit again putting her or only him..That would again limit his teachings.. I gave above response for class 4 of this playlist And Thank you maharaj for the wonderful class
@pstar7224
11 ай бұрын
I dont know much but with my little understanding, it may be That Om is considered to be the sound of creation, as its pramana for the existence of the creator , the sadhaka who delights in self is the pramana for existence of kali as self . Reverse mapping from creator to creation , then from creation to creator . If 6 darshanas can't reveal what you are ma kali , then what is the pramana , for this the poet have said those words. The way to know her , the way of her existence as we see.
@JagadguruSvamiVegananda
11 ай бұрын
I am not really concerned about what any particular person BELIEVES. You may believe that there is an old man with a white beard perched in the clouds, that the Ultimate Reality is a young blackish-blue Indian guy, that the universe is eternal, that Mother Mary was a certifiable virgin or that gross physical matter is the foundation of existence. The ONLY thing that really matters is your meta-ethics, not your meta-physics. Do you consider any form of non-monarchical government (such as democracy or socialism) to be beneficial? Do you unnecessarily destroy the lives of poor, innocent animals and gorge on their bloody carcasses? Do you believe homosexuality and transvestism is moral? Do you consider feminist ideology to be righteous? If so, then you are objectively immoral and your so-called "enlightened/awakened" state is immaterial, since it does not benefit society in any way.
@thatman3107
11 ай бұрын
Lmao. Touch grass.
@thatman3107
11 ай бұрын
Btw Vivekanada was, in his own words, a socialist. And he said a lot of, what you might say, feminist things. So get your head out of your own ar*e, and go touch grass.
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