4:14 The flow of events in Cromwell is really good. No pauses for dramatic emoting every time something happens. No pauses for exposition. The whole scene just flows like a live sporting event, with action, reaction, action, reaction, and so on.
@desthomas8747
3 жыл бұрын
Sir Thomas Fairfax actually commanded the New Model Army, not Cromwell and the NMA was nearly double the size of Charles Army. We had recoiless artillary nearly 300 years before they were invented.
@steinarvilnes3954
2 жыл бұрын
@@desthomas8747 What I think they did was to mix the battles of Naseby and Dunbar together, because in the former Cromwell did indeed defeat a much larger army.
@desthomas8747
2 жыл бұрын
@@steinarvilnes3954 Wonder which battle they mixed Edgehill up with because Cromwell was not there on the first day, shown in the film, he and Colonel Hampden were escorting some guns to the battlefield by the time they got there both sides had run out of gunpowder and quietly withdrew, the King to Oxford and the Earl of Essex to London. As to some other minor points, both sides looked so much alike they wore Field signs and uses Watchwords (Passwords). Ruperts dog was killed a Marston Moor the year before and was a Standard Poodle, huge compared to the tiny white thing that he held in his arm in the film. One of the problems with depiction of history is that the real story was much better than the ones shown. One of my worst film for this is Zulu, heroes, such as Hook was badly represented, a teetotaller, with several good conduct mentions, in the real battle he was ordered to go into the hospital to protect the wounded, when that got to be untenable he, with others saved the lives of all but two of the occupents. In the film he was called a "Malingerer, drunkard, Barack Room Lawyer, his elderly children walked out of the Premier. Much more too much to find room on here we went to a lecture by a local historian, he was telling us about a soldier that came of of one of the rooms, fell into a depfession, covered himself with a cloak as the Zulus came round a corner, whenn they had gone he stood up being dusty and dirty was mistaken for a Zulu and nearly killed.
@frankpienkosky5688
9 ай бұрын
trust you've heard of Cromwell?....he really was a nasty bastard....just the sort that wins battles...@@Selendeki
@Coniuratio456
5 жыл бұрын
It's good that someone bothered to mow the lawn right before each battle, that way they can go play golf after they are done play-fighting.
@stephend50
5 жыл бұрын
Polo
@jameshetu6885
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, the grounds keeper job is very important. He's got to keep the battlefield flat and level and mowed like a fairway. I've heard from multiple guides at Gettysburg that their favorite question from tourists is "how did they fought the battle with all the monuments in the way?" Or some version of that.
@alanbeaumont4848
3 жыл бұрын
Battles got fought where armies could deploy. e.g. Agincourt is in the French countryside, not some wilderness. The woods on either side were there; Henry chose the position as a bottleneck.
@alanbeaumont4848
3 жыл бұрын
@@jameshetu6885 I've been on the Gettsburg field (and it was farmland in 1863). Cemetery ridge looks like nothing compared to even a slight hill, but Little Round Top is a fearsome obstacle; you wouldn't want to climb it without hiking gear, let alone under fire.
@JayM409
3 жыл бұрын
@@jameshetu6885 - Don't forget the Refs. They ensure one side doesn't have too many men on the field.
@Cervando
5 жыл бұрын
The Battle of Waterloo film is epic. No amount of CGI can make up for practical effects and real men. The Russian army extras really gave the film a sense of scale as did the panoramic shots.
@cliffclark2285
5 жыл бұрын
You can't beat 16,000 extras
@doobermanpincher
5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't stand watching it because of the ridiculous close up shots on "mounted" characters. It's just too obvious that they're riding some kind of mechanical contraption hanging off the side of a truck. Doesn't look anything like being on horseback. It's like Monty Python's knees-bent running around behavior, but taken seriously.
@cliffclark2285
5 жыл бұрын
@@doobermanpincher I see where you're coming from but to me at least that seems like a real nit pick when you look at all the other shots that had literally thousands of extras in front of the camera at once. So many other films did the whole close up on an actor while they were clearly not on a horse (though I'd agree other films handled it better) but didn't follow those cheesy shots with the long shots with thousands of men on screen at any given moment
@Cervando
5 жыл бұрын
@@doobermanpincher I totally agree with Cliff. The very brief moments were worth it just to see the huge numbers of cavalry sweeping across the landscape. In particular when Ney's charge the British squares. It is because of the quality of the rest of the cinematography, that the few close ups jar.
@DavidSmith-ss1cg
5 жыл бұрын
@@doobermanpincher - I have to agree with Cliff, as well. If you watch "History Buffs" you'd know some of the details about "Waterloo." It is truly the last film of it's kind, and it was financially helped by the Russian government. And if you watched the battles in some recent productions(like "Game of Thrones") the horse soldiers line up in ways that are un-natural, to give the impression of large numbers, and then the battle shows small groups of riders and reproduces them, so that it looks like a lot of horse soldiers. It ends up looking wrong - but only to us knowledgeable "nit - pickers." So as long as we shut up, everyone else can enjoy the mayhem. Fortune passes everywhere.
@Willysmb44
3 жыл бұрын
The charge scene in Waterloo is breathtaking, you can clearly see the influence in "Braveheart". I've always loved the movie as the scope it is simply amazing and incredible to be filmed in the USSR at the height of the Cold War. THANKS for making this compilation! That said, it would have been great to show the charge of the 5th Light Horse at Beersheba in the movie, "The Lighthorsemen," as they were Commonwealth forces at that time
@michaelmanning5379
3 жыл бұрын
Oh for the good old days . . . when you could rent the Russian army and make a war movie that literally had a cast of thousands . . . and use a helicopter shot to prove that you had.
@timothystevens1529
5 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh that warhorse scene where the lazer machine guns manages to snipe all the riders off the horses which also manages to all succesfully jump over the germans not hitting one.
@scholagladiatoria
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, modern movie audiences don't mind seeing lots of humans killed, but kill a horse?!?! That would be outrageous.
@timothystevens1529
5 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria At first I thought the scene looked pretty good like what you would expect would happen in a calavry charge happen on on unexpecting camp than suddenly the fleeing germans got a speed boost and sillinest commenced.
@sergeantpete6295
5 жыл бұрын
@@timothystevens1529 Yeah I raised an eyebrow at that as well. Seems a bit of an odd layout for a camp. "Let's set up all our tents here in the open. Oh... and take all our machine guns over there in the edge of the forest. No... don't emplace them with fields of fire facing outwards... have them targeted towards our own camp."
@peterblood50
5 жыл бұрын
@@sergeantpete6295 I think the same military adviser worked on it that did the Winterfell Battle against the White Walkers.
@sergeantpete6295
5 жыл бұрын
@@peterblood50 LOL They could have shot the scene at night, and the Brits could have flaming sabres for some reason. Then a high distance shot with the flaming swords extinguished as the magic laser machine guns sniped them off their horses. If the film makers really wanted to show the horror of the transition to modern warfare, they should have used their CGI budget to show the entire company mowed down in gory detail, including most of the horses (except for the title character horse of course).
@chriscann7627
3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that very much - If ever you decide to recut, I'd include the Australian Light Horse (British Empire troops) charge at Beersheba in 1917 from the film The Lighthorsemen. I'd also commend your choice of the (broadly) more accurate 1960s Charge of the Light Brigade to the spectacular but historically risible Errol Flynn version (but why oh why did they put the whole brigade in cherrypicker overalls?!)
@cliffbird5016
2 жыл бұрын
the light horse were not cavalry they were dragoons. even thought they did charge they were not supposed too as they only fought on foot and didnt have any swords just rifles. the horses were to just get around faster. once then got to where they needed to attack they dismounted and went in on foot.
@Zoco101
3 жыл бұрын
The thing we learn is that since the invention of gunpowder, cavalry charges against infantry and artillery have proved disastrous in most cases. Curiously, one of the last successful charges was the Australian lighthorse at Beersheba - not strictly cavalry, but it's not so strange really. Effectively, they were dragoons in the old sense, and dragoon units (of mounted troops with firearms) ended up being used as cavalry.
@Wolfen443
Жыл бұрын
The U.S. Special Forces joined Northern Alliance troops charging on horses Taliban an Al Qaeda troops in Afghanistan at the start of the war in 2001. Granted, it was not as epic like an classic cavalry attack in an open battle field but it should count,
@bosunmate7301
Жыл бұрын
They started being equipped with sabres by 1918
@frankpienkosky5688
9 ай бұрын
longbows ain't bad either....
@charlesacker8552
3 жыл бұрын
Cavalry charges are stressful. Don't know if it's been mentioned but T.E. Lawrence (of Arabia) shot the camel he was riding on in the back of the head during one of his first charges. Apparently riskier for the camel than the rider.
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244
Жыл бұрын
There are a few more great charges on film to include. Aside from the famous Beersheba charge, there is also the 1939 Charge of the Light Brigade, which starred Errol Flynn. Perhaps it was left out due to it being black and white? The final charge is very dramatic and realistic. In fact, several horses and one rider were killed when he fell onto a saber. The scale of it and number of horses used was incredible.
@gunnyski6304
Жыл бұрын
my choice also, Errol Flynns version was better
@frankpienkosky5688
9 ай бұрын
well,..there were only six hundred...right?
@frankpienkosky5688
9 ай бұрын
funny thing about Flynn's movie They Died With Their Boots On....all those wild indians charging in were actually filipinos....who kept falling off their horses... forcing some retakes
@frankpienkosky5688
9 ай бұрын
"cannon to the right of them...cannon to the left of them"...[cannon in front of them?].......no more six hundred!@@gunnyski6304
@revjohnlee
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not qualified to opine on accuracy but my favorite depiction has always been that of the Australian Light horse at Beersheva in "The Lighthorsemen".
@rogerhwerner6997
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Might add the charge of the Australian Light Horse at Beersheba in 1918.
@marcogiannangeli708
19 күн бұрын
A great idea - and thank you for the insightful notes, too. I must say that it only when put them you side -by-side that you can truly appreciate how cinematically superior was Sergey Bondarchuk's masterful 'Waterloo' compared with Tony Richardson's 'Charge of the Light Brigade' filmed just two year previously.
@mortman200
4 жыл бұрын
Cromwell: lines up his horses nicely, gives a little speech, immediately breaks into a disorganized mess the moment the trumpet sounds the charge.
@christianmayer7432
3 жыл бұрын
Like so many movies, Breaveheart or Spartacus for example.
@donsample1002
5 жыл бұрын
No charge at Beersheba from _The Light Horsemen_ ?
@stephenjamieson3833
3 жыл бұрын
Because it is not British history - though you could argue that neither was the Arab charge from Lawrence of Arabia
@YesYes-xb6he
3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenjamieson3833 Also, not a Cavalry charge, but a (mounted) infantry charge. It is however a frigging awesome 6 minutes of film.
@stephenjamieson3833
3 жыл бұрын
@@YesYes-xb6he You are quite correct that the Beersheba charge was done by the Australian 4th Light Horse Brigade, which although it sounds like they were cavalry, were actually mounted infantry. Excellent piece of film though.
@jamiechippett1566
3 жыл бұрын
They got the bluddy job done! I salute you Anzacs.🇦🇺
@fatcoyote2
5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! That first clip was bloody brutal!
@JustGrowingUp84
5 жыл бұрын
31:55 Hey, that baby Loki! Aww, so young and innocent! : D
@adamjan55
5 жыл бұрын
Loki AND Doktor Strange
@danieltaylor5542
5 жыл бұрын
I think this is a hint. Along with moving house Matt has bought Lucy a horse.
@1967hashem
3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the charge of the Light Horsemen in Beersheba, Israel 1917 by the Australians who were fighting under British Command.
@1967hashem
3 жыл бұрын
@CipiRipi00 You are correct that they were Mounted Rifles and untrained in Cavalry which makes it even more astounding that they accomplished a job for which they were never trained. The Light Horse attack on Beersheba was their FIRST ever battle as Light horsemen and no one can change history.
@1967hashem
3 жыл бұрын
@CipiRipi00 Don't forget the Australian OIC had to get permission from the British before the attack. The British General Chetwode came up with the idea in the first place as they also desperately needed water from the Beersheba wells. General Allenby was so impressed with the Light Horsemen whose 6km charge at Beersheba, with thirsty horses, opened the way to attack the Turks in Jerusalem that he put the Light Horsemen in front of his own troops at the head of the Victory Parade in Jerusalem from which he took the salute. I think it was the first time a British General ever allowed foreign troops to march in front of his own. Israel erected a large statue of a Light Horseman titled ''The Australian Light Horsemen" out of deep gratitude.
@TheWesternunionman
3 жыл бұрын
What about the Australian Light Horse charge at Bersheba Palestine 1917 , against Ottoman Turks, last successful charge in WWI of course the Australians thought they were charging for beer and sheilas. This made the taking of Damascus tactically possible, a few short weeks later......the Australians got to Damascus first.
@gonvillebromhead2457
4 жыл бұрын
Movies: Outlaw King (2018) 0:25 Henry V (1944) 1:26 Cromwell (1970) 3:39 Waterloo (1970) 6:26 Waterloo (1970) 11:27 (Michel Ney Charge) The Charge of the Light Brigade (1968) 13:47 The Four Feathers (2002) 17:59 The Four Feathers (1939) 20:07 Young Winston (1972) 24:26 Lawrence of Arabia (1962) 26:31 Warhorse (2011) 28:45 Outro - 32:16
@davidbruce5524
3 жыл бұрын
Did I miss the Charge of the Australian Light Horse at Beersheba?
@dunruden9720
3 жыл бұрын
We're NOT British, Jesus!!
@lesgallivan4159
3 жыл бұрын
@@dunruden9720 no you are not , but I think it deserves honorable mention just because it was the best cavalry charge in any movie , any era , any where
@andymoore9977
3 жыл бұрын
@@lesgallivan4159 Brilliant piece of movie footage, has me on the edge of the chair.... every time I see it!
@andymoore9977
3 жыл бұрын
@@dunruden9720 But it is part of British history. I am British and my Grandpa was part of that campaign. He never spoke about it much but had huge admiration for the ANZACs he fought beside. He was a post office engineer but had to learn to ride a camel to carry messages owing to the lack of a phone network in the desert!
@davidbruce5524
3 жыл бұрын
@@dunruden9720 I know you aren't Brits. BUT before 1931 weren't you a British colony?. Even after 1931 didn't you have just limited independence? If you were still a colony at that time, it should have qualified. Well, it was a magnificent charge and was excellently portrayed in the movie
@kc9602
3 жыл бұрын
I HIGHLY doubt a Cavalry charge would be ordered against an encampment like that!! I know you said fictional, but that Warhorse one should be erased and REPLACED with the Charge by the 4th Lighthorse at Beersheba.
@paddy864
3 жыл бұрын
Warhorse is entirely fictional.
@legendofloki665i9
5 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, while watching this I caught myself wandering, and I couldn't think of an answer - whatever made the lance fall out of practice?
@scholagladiatoria
5 жыл бұрын
Most late period cavalry used both firearms and swords. Having a lance to manage makes it awkward to operate firearms. Whereas a sword can simply be worn.
@matthabir4837
5 жыл бұрын
Time needed to train on it and improving firearms technology.
@Darth.Fluffy
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, in the United States Marine Corps, we also would train ten or twelve machine guns on our own cooks. Kept the bastards honest.
@Darth.Fluffy
5 жыл бұрын
Oliver was a self important ass. And as for the Charge of the Light Brigade, didn't those cockwads charge horses into trip wires to simulation canon fire? Killing how many? That message, "No animals were harmed in the making of this motion picture"? A direct consequence of Charge of the Light Brigade.
@donjones4719
5 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria The 21st Lancers at Omdurman carried carbines and lances, but of course charged using the lances. Then in the middle of a melee, hard to switch to the carbine. Edit: read the bit about the carbines a while ago, having trouble confirming it at the moment.
@mbabist01
3 жыл бұрын
"Those men on gray horses are terrifying." "They are the noblest cavalry in Europe and the worst led." "That may be. But we'll match them with our lancers."
@brianhall3888
8 ай бұрын
I am really surprised and happy that so many people have mentioned the Australian Light Horse charge at Beersheba. It was definitely a bad omission from this list and is by far the best charge in a movie. My great uncle was a member of the 9th Light Horse, a South Australian Regiment.
@arkadycaca
5 жыл бұрын
That Waterloo movie looks pretty darn epic. I need to see if I can find it somewhere.
@Theywaswrong
3 жыл бұрын
Its a great movie.
@paganphil100
2 жыл бұрын
Fned Tolfsen: Its on YT somewhere (unless its been recently removed).
@frankpienkosky5688
9 ай бұрын
it's here..just hit the search button...
@arkadycaca
8 ай бұрын
@@frankpienkosky5688 Did you just reply with advice to a four-year-old post?
@daveharbour5418
Жыл бұрын
The battle of Agincourt was fought on foot by the entire English army, including King Henry, It was also fought on deep boggy wet muddy ground that made cavalry charges impossible. The French charge was cut down by the English archers and what was left of the French attack had to try and reach the English line on foot and got butchered.
@frankpienkosky5688
9 ай бұрын
actually the French surrendered en masse....[their good at that]....then Henry had them all killed
@unclekevin5094
7 ай бұрын
I love the British doublespeak in "Cromwell". They dont shout "retreat" when things go wrong but "To the rear".
@johntillman6068
Жыл бұрын
The Union Brigade and in particular its CO Ponsonby and the Scots (North British) Greys do not carry the Pattern 1796 heavy cavalry sword. But, given the plethora of other inaccuracies in that segment and all the others, that hardly matters. Still, stirring, no matter how anti-historical.
@ricwalne4734
3 жыл бұрын
missed a really good one, the Australian Light Horse at Beersheba
@jamiechippett1566
3 жыл бұрын
Bluddy oath 🇦🇺
@pamelaiverson5527
3 жыл бұрын
October 1917 The Australian Light Horsemen successfully mounted cavalry charges against the town of Beersheba, starting THE Sinai and Palestinian campaign of the First World War.
@RRStout
Жыл бұрын
That was a great video! But you left out the best one. I was surprised you didn't include the 1936 version of Charge of the Light Brigade with Errol Flynn.
@colinmackenzie6954
Жыл бұрын
This is a great compilation,thanks
@elliotsmith9812
3 жыл бұрын
OMG the close up of horse teeth was AMAZING!
@jamesbarbour327
3 жыл бұрын
Matt, you missed the great charge from "The Light Horsemen!" That was a fantastic charge!
@stuartmcpherson1921
3 жыл бұрын
1. It was Aussies and not Poms 2. It was successful with few casualties
@paddy864
3 жыл бұрын
@@stuartmcpherson1921 Really? Most "Aussies" in WW1 were born in the UK or were first-generation settlers. Same with the Canadians actually.
@stuartmcpherson1921
3 жыл бұрын
@@paddy864 There would have been some Poms and first generation but a lot from those who came over the previous 100+ years. Canada had an even longer European history. Many still had close ties with UK as Aust. had been a federated nation for only 14 years.
@paddy864
3 жыл бұрын
@@stuartmcpherson1921 Most of the soldiers in the Australian forces at Gallipoli (for example) were born in the UK,, I've no reason to believe the composition of the ALH was any different.
@mikem9001
3 жыл бұрын
@@paddy864 I rather doubt that. Only about 1 in 5 of the 1st AIF overall were born in Britain. The proportions of the ANZAC forces and Light Horse were probably little different.
@shawn6860
5 жыл бұрын
The individuals in these scenes we really should feel for are the horses that were thinking..."Ya this is a bad idea..." lol!. and to the men who rode those horses... Cannon to right of them, Cannon to left of them, Cannon in front of them Volleyed and thundered; Stormed at with shot and shell, Boldly they rode and well, Into the jaws of Death, Into the mouth of hell Rode the six hundred.
@drgeoffangel5422
3 жыл бұрын
Tennyson's
@ersikillian
Жыл бұрын
What!? You missed Monty Python and the Holy Grail?! Who could possibly forget the use of coconut halves for horses? Awe inspiring! ...and that wonderful use of the command voice - "Run away! Run away!
@Cabochon1360
3 жыл бұрын
Of course it's not historical, but I've always loved the charge in "Knights of the Round Table" (1953), I believe at what's meant to be Salisbury.
@trooperdgb9722
3 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to know what actual British cavalry charges occurred in WW1 and after.... Many of my Aussie compatriots refer to the "Charge of the Light Horse at Bersheeba" BUT..the Light Horse were Mounted Infantry...NOT Cavalry... and advancing on horseback waving bayonets does not change that. I suspect many of the claimed British "cavalry" charges after 1898 fail on similar grounds. The Polish Lancers did of course conduct proper (and effective) charges on several occasions against German infantry formations in 1939... until chased off by armour...(It was largely German propaganda that they "charged tanks" intentionally)
@scholagladiatoria
3 жыл бұрын
There were some huge cavalry actions in Eastern Europe during WW1 and the Russian Revolution, but I have not researched the topic well enough yet.
@chairmanalf7856
3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone mentioned the Australian Light Horsemen charge? 😂😂
@chairmanalf7856
3 жыл бұрын
@CipiRipi00 I put a laughing emoji on the end because numerous other people had asked the same question 😉 👍🏻
@frankpienkosky5688
9 ай бұрын
seemingly endlessly.....
@CharleyD99
Жыл бұрын
Although Australian, and so outside your 'British' requirement, 1987s The Lighthorsemen, has a charge scene the equal of any of these. It's an overlooked film that deserves and rewards, viewing.
@ruirebelo1893
3 жыл бұрын
Just look at the aim in the War horse filme, they only hit the riders, the horses come out unscathed... Amazing..
@notwocdivad
3 жыл бұрын
Why use totally fictional charges when you missed out real events? The Charge of the Australian Light Horse at Beersheba for one
@afan4840
3 жыл бұрын
Because as it says it’s British charges
@brettcoster4781
3 жыл бұрын
@@afan4840 The ALH was (technically) a British (Empire) force, fighting against the British enemy, the Turkish Army. Lawrence of Arabia made the cut, so why not the Aussies? As for Beersheba, there are two movies that could be used, the 1940 Forty Thousand Horsemen, directed by Charles Chauvel (who was the nephew of the actual commander of the attack on Beersheba, Lieutenant General Sir Harry Chauvel), and 1987's The Lighthorsemen. Both were filmed without any injuries to or deaths of the horses involved. In the 1940s film that was a particularly rare feat. As someone says below, it was a cavalry charge without cavalry, as they used either their bayonets alone or held their rifles (with attached bayonet) while making the charge. The Turks knew that they were Light Horse and expected that they would stop, dismount, and fight on foot, however the charge continued over the trenches and into the town. In the Lighthorsemen there's a plot point of the wells being primed to be blown up, which was actually the case. The charge was required because the horses and soldiers needed the water.
@notwocdivad
3 жыл бұрын
@@afan4840 What about Omdurman? That was the Fuzzy Wuzzies charging! and Agincourt was the French charging so your argument doesn't hold water i'm afraid!!!
@dunruden9720
3 жыл бұрын
@@brettcoster4781 Because they asked us and we declined...bloody Poms!
@afan4840
3 жыл бұрын
@@notwocdivad they don’t like it up them
@phoenixroberts6986
Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe you failed to include _Gunga Din_ (1939) -- that was an epic charge!
@sststr
5 жыл бұрын
Why are so many of the most famous British cavalry charges such epic disasters? :O
@scholagladiatoria
5 жыл бұрын
Those are the ones Hollywood has decided to focus on, for various reasons. Of course just at Waterloo there were far more successful cavalry actions, not to mention the entire period from c.1066-1320, when cavalry ruled the battlefield. There were also plenty of successful cavalry actions throughout the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries that have never really received the attention that they deserve from movies.
@Coniuratio456
5 жыл бұрын
Men charging fearlessly to their deaths is much more powerful imagery than men charging in, accomplishing their job without fuss and coming back home to drink tea.
@simonferrer
5 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria That's why I wish they could have introduced Captain Lossow into the TV production of the Sharpe novels. Obviously they were trying to do epic Napoleonic warfare on a TV budget, but it would've been nice to see professional cavalry rather than yet another bunch of aristocrats with more money than sense riding to their doom for want of discipline.
This is a great compilation. Lots of incredible work went into filming these charges. I do feel for the horses! In WW2 over a million died on the Eastern Front. Are the horses British soldiers ride today the descendants of the war horses of the 19th century?
@patrickgriffitt6551
3 жыл бұрын
There is no doubt as to the bravery of all these me(including the Lighthorse) but the tactics were costly in the extreme. I salute them.
@bobwinberry
10 ай бұрын
Great video curating a d thanks for occasional headsup!
@bigwilf1966
3 жыл бұрын
(Outlaw King) why does every film show the english surprised that the scots are fightiing in shiltrums with 18foot pikes. the scots yeoman had been fighting that way for over 100 years at this point.
@xWHITExEAGLEx
3 жыл бұрын
Even ancient Scottish Picts fought like that often.
@SethTaggart-nt5zf
11 ай бұрын
Although I love a heavy cavalry charge in computer games, the reality of horses in these scenarios, even during filming, is sickening.
@charlesstuart7290
2 жыл бұрын
Much preferred the Errol Flynn "Charge of the Light Brigade".
@hibabe5038
3 жыл бұрын
You forgot The Light Horsemen .
@Clipgatherer
Жыл бұрын
“War Horse” was co-produced and distributed by Walt Disney Productions. Disney films didn’t use to have many battle scenes. But times change.
@cebenify
5 жыл бұрын
That charge in Lawrence of Arabia breaks my heart. It shows Lawrence at his worst because the war broke him. No enemy, no victory. Just a broken historian in the sand.
@michaelho9346
5 жыл бұрын
Is that a Sabaton reference at the end?
@cebenify
5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelho9346 yep.
@RobertLynnGreen
3 жыл бұрын
He left out what for me was the most significant image at the end of that charge in War Horse. You see the men on horses going to the woods where the machine guns are, and then it cuts to see the other side of the woods. All the horses coming out of the woods have no riders.
@baldviking1970
3 жыл бұрын
Movie directors seem to favor failed cavalery charges? While in reality they were often very sucessfull. The cavalery did after all dominate the battlefield for extented periods.
@oggy5216
3 жыл бұрын
Because cavalry were usually seen as superior or the “nobility”. Modern films always portray an underdog winning narrative just so more people will want to see it. Featuring cavalry winning would not create any surprise, therefore would not be interesting enough for the average viewer who are watching the film for the action and not the historical accuracy. Film directors often make a conscious decision to focus on action, choosing the events which are the most exciting to portray. It’s like how you never have people using a toilet in movies, even though people do it several times a day. Accuracy has to be sacrificed to make it interesting for the average viewer.
@oggy5216
3 жыл бұрын
hognoxious I mean, I didn’t say anything about forming squares. But though it wasn’t done a lot, it was still conducted. Most notably by Ney’s charge during Waterloo and some aspects during the Spanish campaign where less disciplined Spanish troops broke after seeing massed cavalry. And even forcing your opponent to have to form square by the threat of a cavalry charge, you’re still making them more vulnerable to artillery and musketry. If cavalry were completely useless, they wouldn’t have been used.
@frankpienkosky5688
9 ай бұрын
just ask the Mongols!...
@silafuyang8675
3 жыл бұрын
Those German machine guns can't hit even the horses. How can they hit the men? Scottish cavalry charging against the French lancers has always been my favourite. What a beautiful scene! What a loss!
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle
2 жыл бұрын
The Scots did not charge the lancers but French infantry (and it was not a charge but a walk/trot) The Heavy Brigade slaughtered D'Erlon's infantry and accompanying cavalry and over-charged - chasing the defeated back to the guns, where, as at Balaclava, they slaughtered the gunners and were then spent. The lancers charged the Heavies (including, not just the Scots) and chased them off. After the charge the Heavies were a spent force, more or less, but what was left still fought successfully against the French cavalry later in the day. NB the greatest loss to the Heavies were their horses, most of the men returned from the charge but a trooper without a horse becomes a swordsman in a gun-fight. As with the Charge of the Light Brigade it was a madness peculiar to the cavalry - the British Horse were often a one-shot weapon. A bloody effective one, but pretty useless once used, mostly, sort of ... caveats apply.
@FlgOff044038
3 жыл бұрын
What about the Australians at Beersheba. The Poms took all the credit for that. "Technically not a Cavalry charge, old boy, they were only mounted infantry"
@howardkoontz4735
Жыл бұрын
the scenes are great. Uniforms and such but unless the gunners were using morters, there were no bursting shells. Cast iron and grape shot was use against land charges. But all the fire and smoke gives the watcher a thrill.
@Concetta20
3 жыл бұрын
Battle of Waterloo, what an amazing film. So. Many. Extras.
@lavrentivs9891
4 жыл бұрын
This will sound rather blood-thirsty, but it would be nice to see a scene where artillery do more than provide an ambience, with cannonballs, shells and canister cutting both men and horses to pieces. To better show the horrors of war, rather than the romanticised version we saw in several of the films here.
@fezmancomments
3 жыл бұрын
Whichever side was in the saddle, these cavalry charges didn’t really work. The sharp spike, ditch, longbow, canon, square and machine gun appeared more than a match for the galloping horse. And, of course, after a long gallop what your horse doesn’t want is a fresh enemy horse charging at you!
@paddy864
3 жыл бұрын
A properly conducted cavalry charge didn't involve a long gallop, in fact they only actually "charged" when about 50 to 100 metres from the enemy, for exactly the reason you suggest.
@mikem9001
3 жыл бұрын
Actually, they usually did work. Only in films are cavalry made out to be useless.
@paddy864
3 жыл бұрын
Further to my last and in reply to the first part of your post, those were exactly the sort of things cavalry were NOT supposed to to charge. Ideal targets were infantry in the open, preferably in line and before they had a chance to form Square, or other Cavalry, preferably from a flank and best of all if their horses were “blown”. It was every true cavalryman’s desire to take part in a full-on charge, but the reality was that such things were a rarity. Most cavalry work consisted of patrols, reconnaissance and scouting, advance piquets, screening and flank guards. Cavalry were also the only arm that could quickly exploit a breakthrough and get inside the enemies lines once broken by infantry.
@geoffroberts1126
3 жыл бұрын
Really? I'm sure the Turks at Beersheba would be relieved to know that - if they weren't still running that is.
@dutchyey1277
10 ай бұрын
seriously needs the charge of the Australian light horse at Beersheba
@jerrymtanking
3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to put in the 1936 Charge of the Light Brigade with E. Flynn (classic)
@jerrytugable
3 жыл бұрын
Agincourt was knee deep in mud and shit on the day. Great video though, subbed you, thanks 👍🇬🇧
@studavies1967
Жыл бұрын
Waterloo is an epic film the cavalry charge not so much, some of the cavalry carrying the wrong swords, also with the charge it self should have been at the walk at the trot then at the gallop then at the charge so it ment the cavalry hit as one solid mass not spread out as they were
@glynluff2595
Жыл бұрын
The sad thing about British cavalry charges is the were the wrong call at the wrong time and often at the wrong targets. It perpetuated into WWII. There were leaders who wished for different measures but they were often ignored. We are a strange nation.
@jeanyves651
Жыл бұрын
Not many people know that after the French surrendered at Agincourt, Henry wanted his cavalry to kill what were left of the French cavalry and they refused. He then offered the bowman extra wages if they would carry out the murder and they accepted. Like so much of UK history the war crimes are covered up.
@frankpienkosky5688
9 ай бұрын
had so damn many....they were afraid they couldn't handle 'em...so they killed them...don't see that in the movie
@leebiggers3358
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t really consider the Arab charge from “Lawrence of Arabia” to be a charge by the British army. Yes, it was led by a British officer, but it really the Cavalry of Prince Faisal.
@exander3636
5 жыл бұрын
Is that Agincourt scene based on a Shakespearean play?
@eldorados_lost_searcher
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's from the 1944 version of Henry V.
@angloirishcad
5 жыл бұрын
The play is called Henry V by Shakespeare
@nickdougan394
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, rather more o than the history. But I don't think that that would have made much difference to the film direction in 1944.
@cliffclark2285
5 жыл бұрын
I only discovered the film Waterloo a year or two ago but it immediately became one of my favorite historical films ever, using 16,000 extras certainly didn't hurt
@iamcarbonandotherbits.8039
11 ай бұрын
Well that was a rundown of the British cavalry being wiped out in nearly every major battle they took part in. RIP the cavalry the days of the light brigade are well and truly over. Shooting along in a light tank doesn't quite do it anymore does it.
@simorote
5 жыл бұрын
0:03 some of those while being on the receiving end 😂
@gunnyski6304
Жыл бұрын
they should have used Errol Flynn's version of Charge of the Light Brigade, a lot better than one showed
@brucepeek3923
5 ай бұрын
In a mounted charge the rider never slashes with his sword because it would only make the blade bounce off the target. you jsut held the sword sideways and let the speed of the horse at 25- 30 mph do the work of cutting the infantrymans body in half. best Bruce Peek
@keithrose6931
3 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't have cut the agincourt one the build up just great .
@anirujarbharasiri8907
10 ай бұрын
Some director didn't know how cavalry fought... Power of Cavalry comes from speed... Infact , the cavalry will not accelerate . to stop before the enemy and use swords to fight each other...
@chrisnewport7826
3 жыл бұрын
Good selection
@rontheretiredone
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely sickening to see the sheer abuse of animals by humanity over the course of history. May God forgive us.
@Diebulfrog79
5 жыл бұрын
Sabers Vs Lances + Cannon fire, a hard lesson. Waste of men and horses.
@pauls3204
10 ай бұрын
It was pushing down rain in Agencore the battle field was a mud pit
@mikemyshka1472
Ай бұрын
War is bloody hell, if Politicians understand that like Putin then these events would stop happen.
@mechaman7818
5 жыл бұрын
1:37 I hate it when I forget to wear my pants to the battle, too.
@anthonysharp1490
11 ай бұрын
The last cavalry charge was in the battle of Beersheba in 1917, this was carried out by Australian soldiers. They belonged to the Light Horseman , further research gave the details of who they were.
@Delogros
11 ай бұрын
Not actually true for a couple of reasons, 1) The Light horseman wern't cavalry therfore it wasn't a cavalry charge and second the last succesful cavalry charge happened in 1945 when polish soldiers fighting for the USSR fought in the battle of Schoenfeld
@BorisSpinoza
9 ай бұрын
The were number of cavalry battles during Russian civil war, thousands involved from both sides, horse armies. Also during the same historical time cavalierly battles between Polish army and Red army.
@alancrandall3863
3 жыл бұрын
Seems the military leaders didn’t understand the concept of flanking in medieval times
@alanbeaumont4848
3 жыл бұрын
Yes they did; Henry V anchored both flanks on woods and when at first, the French army didn't take the bait, had his archers advance towards them into bowshot range and rained arrows onto their line, which provoked them to attack and be massacred.
@mikem9001
3 жыл бұрын
@@alanbeaumont4848 Good points, but I would add a couple: The main attack at Agincourt wasn't by cavalry. The French had learned through harsh experience that cavalry were vulnerable to longbows, so they had few knights mounted. Ironically, more mounted knights may have helped them that day. Their main attack was on foot. It was through a ploughed field and had far too many men in it for the space available, but the nobles wouldn't listen to the Marshal of France who tried to restore order. So a mass of exhausted French knights and men at arms stumbled up to the English line and were cut down, mostly by hand weapons.
@mikem9001
3 жыл бұрын
Well, movie directors generally don't understand it! You are right - cavalry always sought to hit the flanks, and good cavalry could switch their angle of attack very quickly to take advantage of flanking opportunities. Later, when clouds of gunpowder began to roll over battlefields, the cavalry learned to use these for concealment. Infantry were forced to form square when cavalry were about, which is very inefficient for shooting (and makes you a good target for artillery), but necessary to stop being taken in the flank by fast cavalry who loom out of the smoke clouds with little warning.
@alfredpaquin3563
Жыл бұрын
Blowing a bugle while riding a horse, now I'm impressed 👌 😎
@Steven-jn2cw
Жыл бұрын
In the last scene why should of they been trusting instead of slashing? I thought cavalry sabres were designed to slash mainly? Can someone explain
@brianwinters5434
Жыл бұрын
I know they had it and understood it but the French seemed to misunderstand the words standoff weapon
@jasonleinen3918
5 жыл бұрын
Are there any films that show cannonballs flying through and cutting down men, or do they all just use explosions?
@mikem9001
3 жыл бұрын
Good point. I am not sure that any film directors really understand this.
@Theywaswrong
3 жыл бұрын
Well, I guess the generation has passed by the old B&W movies. Cant tell you how many times I have watched the 1936 version of Charge of the Light Brigade with Errol Flynn and the charge scene is still my favorite. Next is the Lighthorsemen, the Aussie charge at Beersheba. Oh well, someone has to remember the old B&W classics. By the way, the '36 film was what got legislation passed about cruelty to animals in movie production. So many horses died in the filming that it was heavily condemned by rights activists in those days.
@andrewstackpool4911
Жыл бұрын
Yes but slashing always looks far more spectacular. In reality of course, slashing may well see your sword or sabre stuck in bone, leather etc, bringing you unseated very smartly. And at 30:50, one of those blades sort of wobbled - untempered rubber or plastic? So, all beautifully screened from outstanding films even allowing for errors, bad scripts at times and over the top acting. However, at least three of the seqs yet again prove one of the oldest saws in tactical maneuvering. If your attack is going too well, you are probably (here riding) heading into an ambush. The WW1 clip shows a rather nasty lack of discipline and direction. Pursuing fleeing foot soldiers holus bolus into an unknown forest is just pleading for trouble.
@frankblangeard8865
3 жыл бұрын
A cavalry charge across a long open stretch of land facing a line of cannon is generally not a sound tactic.
@frankpienkosky5688
9 ай бұрын
..."The Wind and the Lion"?...those German guns were nasty!
@kinggeorge2284
3 жыл бұрын
thank you for pointing out about my army
@Michael-q9g5e
5 ай бұрын
All those MGs in "war horse "..! They would have deployed them at angles to maximise their efficiency. Having them lined up looks good, but let's get it right.. interlocking fields of fire harvest more.. but I get it MGs killed the cavalry charge.
@colinmcdonald8521
3 жыл бұрын
The lesson of which is, 'better to carry a longbow/musket and bayonet/Lee-Enfield, and walk, rather than a sword or lance, sitting on a horse.'
@1rwjwith
10 ай бұрын
The 1944 Henry V charge was way off NO MUD! Way to big a battlefield…
@dingliedangliedoodle9261
3 жыл бұрын
The pikes in Outlaw King weren't even dense nor long enough to survive that kind of mass.
@almacmathain6195
3 жыл бұрын
But are these disorganised, spread out cavalry charges in films realistic? Oliver Cromwell had his cavalry charge in line, knee to knee, at the trot. So a massive wall of horse flesh hit the enemy, an individualistic piece meal approach to an enemy line would allow the leading single horsemen to be picked off one by one demoralising the following cavalryman. Also if your unit is kept in close order and only gets up spreed immediately before hitting the enemy, it is not dispersed after the initial impact. That is what happened to the Cavalier cavalry while Oliver’s Roundheads, could reform after a charge and attack again while the Cavaliers were bolting off the battlefield and far away. Only been in something similar (though not warfare) myself once, and found myself leading the charge, so slowed down so I arrived with others, it meant we had greater initial numbers and were able to push our opponents out of the way and led those following straight onto our objective. In George Bernard Shaw’s play ‘The Chocolate Soldier’ the soldier comments on the leading lady’s praise of the romantic heroism of leading a cavalry charge “You should see the poor idiot out front, trying with all his might to pull up his horse”.
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