3:30 ZZ Top- Recycler 8:09 KISS - Music from "The Elder" 11:58 New York Dolls - Self Titled Debut 17:45 Toto - Isolation 22:34 Aerosmith - Nine Lives 29:12 Asia - Alpha 34:32 Hagar Schon Aaronson Shrieve - Through the Fire 39:15 Yes - Union 43:47 Judas Priest - Ram It Down 49:20 Whitesnake - Slip of the Tongue
@maryschuldt8975
3 жыл бұрын
Pete, love your show. I've been watching since 2019, and have collected a lot of albums you've recommended. Keep on doing what you're doing ! Thanks !
@MK-gv7qr
3 жыл бұрын
Peter Frampton I'm in you was a pretty big bomb after Frampton comes alive.
@nelsonmaud1
3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna mention that but there's song on it I really still like but was a bomb
@timlapalme7027
3 жыл бұрын
Yup, I’m In You my pick for greatest bomb ever!
@allornadaaccordingtojack7601
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I thought it was a monumental bomb.
@sabyrk
3 жыл бұрын
That Yes Union tour was badass, though! In Bill Bruford's documentary, he says that Rick Wakeman used to jokingly refer to that album as "Onion" because, he would say, "it'll make you cry."
@kurtbaughman1349
3 жыл бұрын
Two Words: Hot Space
@michaelbeaule1966
2 жыл бұрын
I know this is a sensitive topic, but I appreciate the fact that Pete never bites for the political. I noticed that Martin can jump on a soapbox from time to time but I appreciate Pete not touching that and sticks to the topic at hand which is appreciating music.
@chrisman3965
6 ай бұрын
100% same. Sad to know Popoff is a climate change nut. Still enjoy his music commentary though. Stick to the music and I'm good.
@downpeninsula
5 ай бұрын
Is climate change political ?
@michaelbeaule1966
5 ай бұрын
@@downpeninsula ummm yeah.
@AndI0td763
3 ай бұрын
@@chrisman3965 I haven’t heard anything about that, how’s he a climate change nut?
@mainzergirl9610
3 ай бұрын
@@downpeninsula That's all it is.
@santiagodelgado875
2 жыл бұрын
I discovered this channel because of Martin Popoff and enjoyed this conversation a lot. Cheers to both of you!❤️
@zeelias_zezito65
3 жыл бұрын
Deep Purple - SLAVES AND MASTERS Jethro Tull - UNDER WRAPS Gentle Giant - GIANT FOR A DAY Genesis - CALLING ALL STATIONS Pink Floyd - UMMAGUMMA
@jp1194
3 жыл бұрын
The Cult - Ceremony Awesome album with a lot of hype that went right to the cut-out bins.
@ruipedro4195
7 күн бұрын
Greatest Album Bombs- Part 1 (w/Martin Popoff) Martin Popoff 5- ZZ Top - Recycler (1990) 4- New York Dolls - New York Dolls (1973) 3- Aerosmith - Nine Lives (1997) 2- Hagar Schon Aaronson Shrieve - Through the Fire (1984) 1- Judas Priest - Ram it Down (1988) Pete Pardo 5- Kiss - Music From "The Elder" (1981) 4- Toto - Isolation (1984) 3- Asia - Alpha (1983) 2- Yes - Union (1991) 1- Whitesnake - Slip of the Tongue (1989)
@Danimal77
3 жыл бұрын
Ram It Down (1988) has 2 EXCELLENT songs: Ram It Down and Blood Red Skies, 1 great song: Hard As Iron (criminally underrated) and 2 good songs: Heavy Metal and I'm a Rocker (very catchy).
@ScottyKirk1
3 жыл бұрын
Blood Red is one of their heaviest songs! Love that one!
@j.j.4150
3 жыл бұрын
Great show as always. Though, I would argue, that any album that went platinum, no matter how much albums before that made more, is immediately disqualified from being considered a "Bomb".
@snowdog202
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Franz_Morhart
3 жыл бұрын
Recycler went platinum-that's a massive hit, relative to ZZ Top's entire catalogue.
@mohammed.alfarsi.454
3 жыл бұрын
53:14 that should be on a T-shirt 👕 "They make me mad even hearing them in my head"
@christianman73
3 жыл бұрын
This is fairly outside of the music usually covered on SOT, but in 1980, Earth, Wind, & Fire (who, at their best, were an *incredible* funk/soul/R & B/jazz band!) released a double album titled "Faces." Even many of their fans didn't buy it-- and they seriously missed out, because that album both *rocks and grooves* and is lyrically thoughtful too. "Faces" is the great "lost" EWF album, but it should be rediscovered!
@jazzpunk
3 жыл бұрын
I hear ya...
@treff9226
2 жыл бұрын
Incredible album!
@svencarter580
3 жыл бұрын
Been away from the channel for a period. Great first video back. Loads to catch up on. Superb work again chaps!!
@robsmith1400
3 жыл бұрын
Upon release, I thought "Isolation" was going to break the record for most Top 40 hits on an album....pop/rock perfection. I was WAY off but the cd never gets too far from me.
@matthewclark9652
3 жыл бұрын
When The Raspberries album "Fresh" peaked at # 36 on Billboard Top 200 Album Charts in January 1973, their classic next album "Side 3" went to # 128 in October 1973.
@diannecarpenter7718
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, “Pete” and “Martin”for your opinions, about the greatest album bombs. I enjoyed listening and watching to this conversation. I will tune in next time. All the damn time. 🎤🎸🎵🎹🥁
@masonmixon8031
3 жыл бұрын
"IVE HAD CNN ON FOR TWO DAYS"....lol. poor guy
@petrilampela
3 жыл бұрын
I've never been a big fan of Toto but I loved Stranger in Town as a kid and just noticed recently that the opening riff goes in six, verse is in seven, bridge in four and chorus in five. And it just flows perfectly without you even noticing the changing time-signatures.
@davedagreat69
Жыл бұрын
The verse is not in 7, it has two bars of 4 and one of 6. The chorus is also not in 5. Also the opening riff is three bars of 4, not two bars of 6.
@petrilampela
Жыл бұрын
@@davedagreat69 Well that's just nitpicking. I seem to snap my fingers half slower than you and that's why your 14 is 7 to me and your 12 is 6. You probably count the chorus as 4+4+2 that equals 10 and I count it in half-time compared and that's why get 5. The point still is that the time signatures change throughout the song without you really noticing. I've done classical training and music theory 40 years ago but I like to count the rhythm in a way that feels more natural to me.
@joeylyons4549
3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting topic. I’ve said this before. But watching your episodes has been such a great escape into someplace positive with all this Covid and other BS I’m the world. I really look forward to checking out your channel each day
@markblue5375
3 жыл бұрын
HSAS was a killer record ! Some of the greatest Neal Schon guitar playing you will ever hear !
@slainteron4027
3 жыл бұрын
Love He Will Understand
@treffbennett6534
3 жыл бұрын
HSAS will ALWAYS bring the rock-absolutely killer Schon riffs and solos with Hagar's stellar voice and stellar rhythm section........this album was a nice surprise for me at the time and I am now going to play it today until my drywall blisters! Great mention!
@markblue5375
3 жыл бұрын
@@treffbennett6534 Hell yeah Treff 🔥
@stormbringercoming8105
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I wasn’t a Sammy Hagar or Journey fan at the time, but I loved this record. Oddly enough, Sammy Hagar fans in my town never had record. Wished they re-release this with the unreleased music.
@sabyrk
3 жыл бұрын
I love how in this clip Pete sets up his picks with a little bit of suspense.
@johnpatterson4272
3 жыл бұрын
You have to admit the KISS t-shirt and his intro to his 'Elder' send-up was kind of a giveaway for those of us who saw it coming.
@sabyrk
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpatterson4272 Totally sword coming, but I like how he builds up his pics first and waits to show the album covers.
@johnpatterson4272
3 жыл бұрын
@@sabyrk It's a nice touch. I appreciate the way these vloggers get right into the topic. No meaningless banter that goes on for 20 minutes.
@MrCoryde
3 жыл бұрын
You lost me at, I watched CNN all day. But I still watched because I love you guys.
@mr.jamesvincent3519
3 жыл бұрын
Some of my favorite "bombs" (in no particular order, just off the top of my head) Styx: Kilroy was Here - Aerosmith: Just Push Play - Metallica: St. Anger - Judas Priest: Nostradamus - Iron Maiden: Virtual XI - Deep Purple: House of the Blue Light - Motley Crue: Generation Swine - Van Halen: |||
@christianman73
3 жыл бұрын
'"New York Dolls" is one of the greatest rock albums of the '70s, or of *any* decade. The fact that it wasn't commercially successful may partially be due to just how "proto-punk" it is, musically-- a *truly* wild, rocking, and very fun, album! It's so untamed and invigorating! Todd Rundgren captured the raw, rocking sound of the band without watering it down or polishing it up too much. A classic album!
@jimmycampbell78
3 жыл бұрын
I need to check that out. My view aligned with Martin’s in the sense that I know the New York Dolls, I know the band and I perceive them as a famous influential band- and then I realise I don’t know any of their music. They’re on the list but I got the new Maiden today to listen to 😉
@christianman73
3 жыл бұрын
@@jimmycampbell78 New Maiden *definitely* must be heard! I've been a fan since '83 and still love 'em! :-) The Dolls were not a metal band in any way, but still great, in a very different way. Hard rocking, barroom-bluesy wildness, with a punk edge, before punk really existed. Good stuff!
@adamsmashups4839
2 жыл бұрын
On the Union tour ,they did Lift Me Up,Shock to the System and Saving My Heart. When I saw the Rabin Wakeman Anderson version of Yes,they also did Lift Me Up.
@weirdlysawbones8547
Жыл бұрын
The Union album was a letdown, but I gladly caught the tour in Toronto and was very impressed, especially with how I got to see Bruford,awake man, and Howe up on stage which I never thought I’d see at the time, not to mention witnessing the ever awesome Chris Squire.
@jake6887
3 жыл бұрын
Next albums deserves more love imo: Tygers of Pan Tang: The Cage Reo Speedwagon: Good Trouble Foreigner: Usual Heat Demon: The Plaque Bad Company: Dangerous Age Strangways: And the Horse Tyketto: Shine Journey: Arrival Boston: Walk On Asia: Astra Night Ranger: Feeding of the Mojo Saxon: Innocence is no Excuse Twisted Sister: Love is for Suckers 100% agree with Toto: Isolation
@HarmonyHomeInspectionServices
3 жыл бұрын
Good list. How about Golden Earring's "N.E.W.S." (1984) I remember the video "When the Lady Smiles" played once on MTV. A follow up bomb to the popular album "Cut" which had "Twighlight Zone"
@bobschiller6435
3 жыл бұрын
I love John Wetton, but many years ago I came to that realization that what he really wanted was to be a pop star. I remember reading at the time that he was thoroughly PO'd at his record label (EG) when they didn't promote his 1980 album "Caught In the Crossfire" in the UK and wouldn't even release it in the US (it finally appeared six years later). It was more mainstream, and their rationale was supposedly that he was "too old" to be a teen idol (it's by far his best solo album IMO). When Asia happened, I immediately thought it was a direct result of this slight. He pretty much turned his back on prog from that point on, and it seems like he spent most of the Asia days and subsequent solo career trying to prove the naysayers wrong.
@bobschiller6435
2 жыл бұрын
@Blackadder I actually didn't mind that one, though it didn't really suit his vocal range. Once DB started singing the background vocals it sounded like Heep again. I think it was part of the deal he made to play on the album that he got to sing one song. Did the same with Wishbone Ash.
@archibaldsalyards926
3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure the total album sales for the self titled “Whitesnake” is almost closer to 20 million copies. Maybe closer to the 16 million mark…? And this video will only help the artists get more their do! Thank you both for your love of music!!!!
@carle9924
3 жыл бұрын
I have always loved the Elder, that being said. Dynasty, Unmasked and The elder are my favourite Kiss albums 😅
@rightchordleadership
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll have what you’re smoking! 😄
@christianman73
3 жыл бұрын
I loved all three of those albums, when they were released, and I love them, now, decades later. I was very much a fan of the early hard rock sound of Kiss, but I loved it when they experimented musically too. They are very underrated as songwriters. The big stage shows, with the theatrics, were cool and fun, but the songs kept me returning to them as a fan.
@guillaumechabason3165
3 жыл бұрын
Odyssey Save your love and Easy as it seems are my favourites songs of these three masterpieces..
@larsschneider2378
3 жыл бұрын
The Elder has always been one of my faves as well, one of the prime examples of people hating it due to its reputation - like, you have to hate it because apparently everyone else does. And Dynasty is another misconception, the "disco" album...yeah, because 2 of the tracks are somewhat disco-influenced. But X-Ray Eyes? Save Your Love? Some of the heaviest Kiss-stuff up to that point. Great album.
@Geerladenlad
3 жыл бұрын
They're quite good compared to the newer albums.
@rjm4091
3 жыл бұрын
Just want to say I appreciate Martin. Enjoy his perspective. Thank you Martin!!
@craigusselman546
3 жыл бұрын
His Heavy Metal ratings guide is one of my favorite books of all time-check it out.
@rjm4091
3 жыл бұрын
@@craigusselman546 thank you
@ilj1259
3 жыл бұрын
The Cars - Door To Door Journey - Raised On Radio Bad Company - Rough Diamonds Genesis - Calling All Stations Kiss - Unmasked
@mdarts8861
3 жыл бұрын
Great show as usual. Are you any closer to doing the Kate Bush album ranking?
@katesjanice
3 жыл бұрын
Oh please. I love Kate Bush!
@mdarts8861
2 жыл бұрын
@Munro What an amazing song that is. If you like that though listen to it with the rest of the album, it really is a thing of beauty, you even get some whale sounds. All her albums are worth a listen, some are truly magnificent sound scapes, other worlds.
@thomaslycan8893
2 жыл бұрын
Toto got a new singer for “Isolation”. Thats a big reason why it flopped. Pete does make a good point about skipping years in the 80’s. Late 70’s arena rock was still selling in 1982 but not in 1984. Except for Foreigner. They actually did have a great comeback in 1984.
@briansmolik4653
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Martin's insights on The Dolls....both great albums
@rtrout57
3 жыл бұрын
This kind of a Velvet Underground scenerio.
@tylermorrison7051
3 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about Steve Vai fitting in, but he was amazing on David Lee Roth's Eat Em' and Smile. Kudos to DLR, Sheehan, Bissonette, and Harms, as well. Definitely one of the best hard rock albums of the 1980's.
@janpoelkamp4229
3 жыл бұрын
Vai was playing with everyone under the sun in the 80’s. Any fan of his should check out what got him the attention in the first place: His work with Frank Zappa! 😎
@mprofo.indogwetrust
3 жыл бұрын
Ditto "Skyscraper"
@hesch-tag
2 жыл бұрын
Steve and bluesy just don't go together.
@mck7646
2 жыл бұрын
That DLR solo band was incredible. They crushed Hagar's VH at the time in my opinion. Wish they stayed together longer.
@geronimo9097
3 жыл бұрын
This is a GREAT topic. I love how we all have differences as well as agreements with our musical choices. I love HSAS & Big Generator; like Music of the Elder & Union. I bought Ram It Down and was disappointed as well. Music is beauty in the EARS of the beholder.😁
@mkendra29
3 жыл бұрын
Great shout-out to "Isolation," Pete. Reading his book, Lukather seems to think of this one as the odd duck in their career and that Fergie was kind of an unfortunate fall guy. Thanks also Martin for mentioning "Through the Fire." I have heard that Hagar and Schon actually did try to make a second go of it in the early 2000's but didn't really have the chemistry to come up with good songs and they aborted it. My picks: Stone Roses "Second Coming." It took them five years to follow up their amazing debut album and by then they were eclipsed by Britpop bands imitating them (looking at you, Oasis). I saw that tour - Ian Brown and John Squire were openly, drunkenly arguing on stage. Metallica "Load" - I don't think the self-titled album was a sellout, the prog metal they did on AJfA had run its course. On the other hand, with this one, I knew it was trouble when every DJ on every station I listened to in both the Bay Area and Southern California would qualify the first single to death "this is real different," "take some time to get used to it," etc. Roger Waters "Is This the Life We Really Want?" Fine album that no Floyd fan I know has been willing to touch. It's a shame as this is powerful, mature work. At the same time, maybe everything that can be polarizing about Waters - the sparse production, the nasal voice, the strident nature of his anti-war and left-wing views on and off his records - just wasn't drawing anyone in.
@MartyMurray
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, Pete. I love the Hagar, Schon, Aaronson & Shrieve album. Such great playing and vocals on that record.
@malco49
3 жыл бұрын
the dolls were great , bought both albums on release , saw them live back then once in south jersey and once in philly . great both times .
@gileslesmith
3 жыл бұрын
great show! love to watch you guys talking bout all those great or not so great bands of the past. there´s always something to discover that I didn´t know before!
@kennbrown4638
3 жыл бұрын
This was a one and done type thing. The 1978 soundtrack to the Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. The hype was kinda strong. The performers included The Bee Gees, Peter Frampton, Aerosmith, Alice Cooper, Earth, Wind & Fire, Steve Martin, Billy Preston and George Burns (whose career was resurrected during this time period). George Martin produced the album. And, of course, it was Beatles' songs. But talk about laying an egg. It was a platinum plus return , meaning 4 million copies were returned by retailers.
@AndrewCapobianco2014
3 жыл бұрын
The final scene is a Mash of Celebs - Saw this at movies, was a Big Bomb
@kennbrown4638
3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewCapobianco2014 Saw it three times. Loved it. Probably one of the hundred who did. Damn near killed the careers of the Bee Gees and Peter Frampton.
@treffbennett6534
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, great pick! This whole debacle should be chapter one in the book " WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? " I believe if you see the soundtrack for sale and offer to "take it off their hands" YOU get cash and prizes. I use it to "remove crows" from their five a.m. meetings in trees outside my window.....AERODYNAMIC!
@AndrewCapobianco2014
3 жыл бұрын
@@kennbrown4638 If you have HBO Max, check out the Bee Gees Documentary, Great Stuff, Great Footage of a Forgotten Time
@HarmonyHomeInspectionServices
3 жыл бұрын
You lost me at watching CNN. I came here to here about the big album bombs. Scroll to 2:21
@guywoznicki7847
3 жыл бұрын
Just like to add to the analysis of the failure of the Toto follow up. Back in those days (70’s & 80’s) we used to wait until we heard something from the album before we bought it, even if it followed up a smash. If no single appeared we may have asked around a bit. If nobody heard it, nobody bought it. I’d also like to add that I loved the Cars first 2 albums and then heard the single Running to You and passed on the 3rd album. Years later I got a used copy for $1 and was amazed at how good it was. That stupid lead single might be why the record bombed!
@kiplambert64
3 жыл бұрын
Au contraire, back in the day I pretty much bought albums sight unseen , based on the artist/band..Radio hits were irrelevant...
@kenfrederick6223
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a little beyond the purview of this channel, but I have to mention Discharge-"Grave New World". A huge stylistic change and massive bomb for the band.
@gwts1171
3 жыл бұрын
I just re-listened to this a few days ago. Still makes me cringe. :)
@tanvirchoudhury122
3 жыл бұрын
Songs of innocence - U2. Their partnership with Apple was an absolute PR disaster as Bono's indulgences caught up with the band. Slip of the tongue - Whitesnake. Overblown, micro-managed and though it had some great tracks (sailing ships, judgement day), it was couple of years too late. Goodnight LA - Magnum. A desperate attempt to conquer America and nobody cared. Crush - Bon Jovi. Came out around the same time as Maiden's Brave New World and compared poorly. They saw a million faces and bored them all.
@davidl570
3 жыл бұрын
Barf Jovi has ALWAYS bored me! Also, even David Coverdale doesn't like Slip of the Tongue. Can't blame him in the least!
@kimberlywalker3970
3 жыл бұрын
Prince - Under The Cherry Moon Led Zeppelin - Presence (Compared to Physical Graffiti) Guns-N-Roses - Chinese Democracy Nirvana - In Utero
@kevinb7126
6 ай бұрын
In Utero imo was awesome some super heavy stuff on there .
@thestevec
3 жыл бұрын
Travelling Wilburys Vol 3 - Some googling shows it sold well but seems largely forgotten these days.
@rememberbeginning
3 жыл бұрын
I dig that album. Well both their albums.
@bigdawg7262
2 жыл бұрын
Van Halen 3 takes the trophy for this one. Every other VH album up to this one multi time Platinum and this one barely gets Gold.
@fredrickhintze5744
3 жыл бұрын
Glad Martin addressed the NY Dolls. Those two albums are probably in my top ten favorites. As you might have guessed, I’m a huge fan of The Dolls, Thunders, Buster,etc. I saw the original lineup only once. Memorable to say the least. They never had a broad fan base , great record sales. It was a surprise that they were even nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I don’t lose any sleep over it. They may get in eventually but who cares.I can’t deny the fact that they were hyped but a lot of us who hung out in the Village new them. Maybe the look of the band turned off a lot of folks but the music was exciting - even the cover choices were great.
@ledzeplover58
3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Leave it to Martin to bring up some of my favorite bands and put that bewildered look on Pete's face.
@Wayner71
3 жыл бұрын
It was interesting to find out how disunified 'Union' really was.
@michaelbaucom4019
3 жыл бұрын
Kansas: Drastic Measures Supertramp: Free As A Bird Not just in terms of sales, but stylistically too. Kansas went from being prog/hard rock to a bad version of Foreigner. Supertramp, after the very good Brother Where You Bound album, a jazz-rock/ prog album, then went to a synth-pop/Kenny G style jazz/dance music album. Yuck
@lexpeters735
3 жыл бұрын
Big Generator by Yes following up 90125 was such an anticlimax in general song quality and creativity.. Secondly Fleetwood Mac's Tusk after the success of Rumours. Everyone expected Rumours ll. In the record shop I worked in at the time, I would quietly warn my regulars to listen to Tusk before buying. Most didn't heed my warning and were very disappointed.
@xpindy
3 жыл бұрын
A hardcore prog guy, I was very "meh" about the "Asia" album when I first heard it on the radio- when I actually bought the album (on cassette, which meant I didn't really care about it) and got to the interior songs, my feelings grew- when the album became so popular, I was won over (I was overjoyed that the general public would find out what "real" music was- albeit thru baby steps). The battle of balance between prog and pop is partly what sunk Asia. But a big part of the problem was Wetton's demons (alcoholism, which he addresses very well in some later work= solo and with Asia)- I saw the band on the Don't Cry tour and I thought the concert was terrible- I remember telling my girlfriend at the time "Something is really wrong with this band." Wasn't too long after that Greg Lake was brought in to replace Wetton on the tour. When the original band reunite, my daughter dragged me to the show and I was shocked at how good it was- saw them many times after that. One thing, though- the band never did "Don't Cry" in it's "hit" arrangement in later years- until Howe left the band. Kind of think that was a touchy subject. Love Wetton and if God told me I could have anyone's singing voice- I'd say "John Wetton or Greg Lake- surprise me." (Only because if you asked God for Sinatra"s voice, God would shrug his shoulders and say "Don't you think I wish I had his voice, too?"
@alciovillalobos
3 жыл бұрын
I love that you always share the weather report at the beginning. :)
@sunsin1592
3 жыл бұрын
Funny; Brendon Snyder calls "Recycler" his all-time favorite ZZ Top album. I saw them on that tour and it was a helluva show with a junkyard that kept recycling things. I think it was the last time they did big stage shows like that. Not my favorite ZZ Top album either, but fun memories of that show.
@randycunningham7318
2 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite album is also Recycler.
@iainholmes2735
3 жыл бұрын
To paraphrase, a success has a thousand parents, but failure is often disowned. But, I have also noticed that some albums undergo a revision, and grow in acclaim over time.
@jefflofgren5304
2 жыл бұрын
Same type of situation as Toto-Isolation was The Tubes "Love Bomb" album. Their biggest selling album "Outside/Inside" from 83 contained "She's A Beauty" and then 2 years later Todd Rundgren produced a strange yet catchy follow-up that did NOT sell. People have said over the years that there was some evidence of band ambivalence towards the record company. Which resulted in them being dropped by Capitol Records.
@h.m.7218
Жыл бұрын
Both Outside and Love Bomb are great albums. Outside is much less Tubesque but very good nonetheless in a classic rock way. Love Bomb is hyper creative FM rock. The hyper creative side of it is the Tubesque ( and Rundgrenesque ) side.
@cool927
3 жыл бұрын
Steve Vai can’t be blamed for Slip of the Tongue. He was basically brought in as a hired gun to play Vandenberg’s parts. He didn’t write any of the songs. Ironically, the best song from those sessions (Sweet Lady Luck) never made it on to the album but it was on their greatest hits album 5 years later.
@liquidvizionsmadferit
3 жыл бұрын
Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime II It deserved to bomb. It's not even in the same universe as the original masterpiece. Metallica - St. Anger and Lulu. I'm not the the biggest fan of Load and Reload. But I like some stuff on those and could combine the songs I like and make one decent album. But those other two... I couldn't give you nothing. There are obviously others but those 3 stick out for me.
@cuttynichols
3 жыл бұрын
Just the mention of Saint Anger brings the thought of a garbage can snare drum straight to my head.
@treffbennett6534
3 жыл бұрын
How shameful to desecrate one of the all time masterpiece albums, Operation Mindcrime is flawless, musically and thematically, with the blatant cash grab that is Mindcrime II......never fails to shock me as to just how little respect and dignity these artists show toward their OWN material-especially genius music that captivated everyone who heard it......WTF????? Megadeth-Risk had a special ability to suck AND blow at the same time (the board game RISK was far more dangerous.....) Lulu made me poo poo. St. Anger featured Oscar The Grouch's trash can, which Lars apparently thought would make a great snare drum..... ......"and NO SOLOS FOR YOU, KIRK HAMMETT, THEIR JUST TOO EXCITING AND EAR CATCHING-WE CAN'T HAVE IT" !!!! nice picks, brother!
@jason-budney7624
3 жыл бұрын
Some great choices from both Martin and Pete! Catching up on videos I missed during vacation.
@jasonbrandt5504
3 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Would be interesting to the counterpoint to this theme - biggest surprises! Albums nobody expected to explode - but they did. Right place right ie. thing. Frampton Comes Alive, OK Computer, Tubular Bells as examples.
@marciopainhas5828
3 жыл бұрын
Had never heard HSAS. Very cool! Reminds pieces of Van Halen, UFO and Def Leppard.
@kylekirchhevel9097
3 жыл бұрын
I was 16 when Whitesnake '87 came out, loved it. 2 years later, I hear Fool For Your Loving and I'm " Never mind, think I'll listen to Great White's " ...Twice Shy" album front to back for the third time this week..."
@peterdelaney7061
3 жыл бұрын
Pete - Would like to hear your take on a common factor to many of the albums that were so formulaic and contrived. That is John Kalodner. He was the man behind the scenes on so many of those late '80s corporate recordings. His fingerprints are very evident
@63mckenzie
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair to ZZ Top, it was incredible that a blues band could get any platinum selling albums.
@jazzpunk
3 жыл бұрын
Were their platinum albums "Blues"...or the MTV stuff? Ok, just looked. A couple of their earlier ones , Fandango & Deguello eventually hit Platinum; one had "Tush" & the other had "Cheap Sunglasses".
@ScottyKirk1
3 жыл бұрын
@@jazzpunk Ohhhh I hated the "Six Pack" remixes! 🤮 They touted at the time that the old mixes were not going to be available anymore! Grrrrrrrrr 😡
@mike04574
3 жыл бұрын
And rock too
@Danimal77
3 жыл бұрын
I've always been a fan of Whitesnake's Slip of the Tongue album. To me it was the last classic sounding Whitesnake album, with 5 great songs: Slip of the Tongue, Fool For Your Loving '89, Now You're Gone, The Deeper The Love, and Judgement Day.
@MetalJesus157
3 жыл бұрын
I like probably every song on that album except the two ballads.
@ericwincentsen587
3 жыл бұрын
"Stranger in Town" was a top-40 single at the time and got some decent airplay. One of my favorite Toto songs. I have yet to go through their catalogue, but look forward to it.
@fuzzbubble
3 жыл бұрын
Peter Frampton “I’m in You”..... HUGE flop
@Ben12670
3 жыл бұрын
The Jobriath album was probably hyped even more than the Dolls. Was supposed to be the American Bowie.
@BrianSherman-TheTVGod
3 жыл бұрын
Wow...I mean, with the exception of Kitten's Got Claws, I'd say Slip of the Tongue should sit in the "masterpiece" category...with Judgement Day being in the top 10 greatest metal songs of all time.
@MetalJesus157
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Slip of the Tongue is my third favorite Whitesnake album after 1987 and Slide It In. I actually like Kittens Got Claws, but never cared much for Now You're Gone or The Deeper the Love. Otherwise, it's an incredible album. I might even tie it with 1987.
@ronnienose8608
3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how people view Whitesnake. I much prefer the pre '87 material (in fact, apart from Still of The Night, I don't like the album and find the re-recordings of Here I Go Again and Crying In The Rain awful, with far too many notes played by Sykes), but despite Vai being wrong for the band I admit that there are a larger proportion of good songs on Slip Of The Tongue than '87.
@herrdwabash
3 жыл бұрын
Pete Townshend embarked on a very ambitious project in 1993 with "Psychoderelict." A big concept album with solid songs and a narrative connecting the story together with voice-actors, resembling a radio show (it was acted out on tour). In terms of album sales- a total disaster, and Pete Townshend has not done another solo album since.
@ChimpAflame
3 жыл бұрын
A second version of Pyschoderelict was later released with just the songs, removing all of the extra story-concept narrations. The songs-only version is OK, and IMHO much more recommended over the original release. I’m a huge Who fan and Pete’s solo work up thru White City is really good (White City, Empty Glass, and Rough Mix with Ronnie Lane are all A+), but I haven’t listened twice start-to-finish to either The Iron Giant and the narration-release PD. Pete did a solo tour for Psychoderelict, and it incorporated stage acts in-between the songs to bring to the story to dramatic life. Ugh! It was a challenge to sit thru all of it. Halfway through, the whole audience just seemed to be sitting there, tolerating it. The band would pick up some steam, and then it would just slam to a stop while pre-recorded voices played over images on s screen. Pete was still scratching his Tommy on Broadway itch, and it did not work on his Psychoderelict tour. The greatest-hits second half barely made up for it.
@tatedavis2016
3 жыл бұрын
Led Zeppelin- Presence (Still sold very well, but was a bomb compared to Physical Graffiti’s album sales) Uriah Heep- Conquest Foghat- Boogie Motel Steppenwolf- Skullduggery Van Halen- III Kiss- Creatures Of The Night (the diehards were into it, but I think most of the public had moved on.)
@franciskocher200
3 жыл бұрын
Nice and interesting show...Need to do another one about this topic.
@seaoftranquilityprog
3 жыл бұрын
That's why it's titled 'Part 1'...
@cgarner1964
3 жыл бұрын
Cool show as always Pete I also never missed an episode of forgotten classics. The underrated bands show was cool . Martin the Hounds are super cool blast from the past.
@rogertemple7193
3 жыл бұрын
the Elder by KISS was originally going to be a soundtrack to a motion picture movie as a follow up to their tv film KISS meets the Phantom by Hanna-Barbera they originally wanted it to be a more serious film but that fell through and the Elder was released before it and when it didn't happen it was still released but wasn't received by the fans and a lot of fans weren't aware of it being a proposed soundtrack it would have been a great movie if it had happened the Phantom tv movie was okay but KISS meets Hanna-Barbera was an odd mixture though."
@Miler97487
3 жыл бұрын
- Kiss: Music from the Elder (1981) - Kiss: Creatures of the Night (1982) We all know about The Elder, while Creatures returned the band back to their heavy rock sound and did please those buyers who stuck around and for good reason, It didn't do particularly well upon release but I do believe it did better afterwards. - Fleetwood Mac: Time (1995) - Jefferson Airplane: Jefferson Airplane (1989) I remember "Planes" getting radio airplay at the time but nothing else. I also remembered the album was hardly talked about at all. I never owned the album because I can't imagine it being particularly good - Emerson, Lake & Palmer: Love Beach (1978) - The Velvet Underground: any album Despite their vast influence none of their albums sold much of anything upon release. - David Bowie: Tonight (1984) - Bee Gees: Living Eyes (1981) It's no surprise this 1981 album bombed since this came smack in the middle of the anti-disco backlash and these guys were the biggest target. - Grand Funk Railroad: Born to Die (1976) I actually enjoy this album and I remember "Take Me" on the radio but it's clear this album didn't do particularly well because people were likely turned off by the more commercial nature of Shinin' On and All the Girls in the World Beware. - The Byrds: The Notorious Byrd Brothers (1968) Compared to what they did before it wasn't particularly a big seller but it's a great album. I guess because the album was all over the place put off buyers. I understand it did better in the UK, which seemed to be a trend for the Byrds: If they weren't doing well in the States, they were doing well in the UK. - Yes: Union (1991) No argument there. No wonder Rick Wakeman called it "Onion" because it brought tears to his eyes. - The Grateful Dead: Built to Last (1989) In the Dark gave the Dead commercial success they never experienced before thanks to "A Touch of Grey" receiving tons of radio and even MTV airplay. Its follow-up never came close in airplay or sales. The Dead stuck with performing live and no new studio albums since.
@troymosson8975
3 жыл бұрын
Quiet Riot - Condition Critical.....talk about that band laying an egg after Metal Health.
@metaldams78
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Throw in Come Out and Play from Twisted Sister too. Something about those early glam metal blockbusters having diminished returns in the follow ups.
@AndDeathForAll82
3 жыл бұрын
Quiet Riot was pretty much a one album pony, in my opinion. Even that album isn’t without its problems.
@ScottyKirk1
3 жыл бұрын
Ha 😂 I used to see that in the bargain bin all the time back in the day!
@janpoelkamp4229
3 жыл бұрын
I actually do prefer Nine Lives over Get A Grip. Much better album, imo. My contribution: Blondie - The Hunter (still love it!) The Eagles - The Long Run (presumably it was) The Clash - Cut The Crap (not a Clash album imo)
@peteygemini60
3 жыл бұрын
The problem with The Elder was that the record company released it with the tracks in the wrong order immediately ruining the story. The remaster is how it should've been - may not have made a difference sales wise.
@robertheaney1685
3 жыл бұрын
Guns and Rose - Chinese Democracy Black Sabbath - Technical Ecstasy Metallica - Load
@rightchordleadership
3 жыл бұрын
Good ones
@EdwardBox
3 жыл бұрын
Monster of Rock. The only JP song I can't abide! Turbo, lyrics aside, has great production, hooks, arrangements, playing and writing.
@bradhardisty1652
3 жыл бұрын
What's weird is Blackie Lawless stood in for Johnny Thunders in the New York Dolls final shows. He also played in post Dolls band, Killer Kane that featured Arthur Kane and Jerry Nolan.
@JohannesYtterstrom
3 жыл бұрын
Toto Isolation is a worthy follow-up to Toto IV. I like both albums plenty. Fergie Frederiksen who sadly passed away several years ago was a good fit for the band on that album. Poppy but still a bit more rocking than many of their other albums.
@gwts1171
3 жыл бұрын
I love Asia's "Alpha". Yeah, it's total pop, but the fact that they could do that so well is commendable (and surprising at the time!) to me. Those songs are some of the best pop of the era. But, I get it. It's not prog.
@buenostiempos4376
3 жыл бұрын
Just started listening to it. "Don't Cry" is awesome. I never really got why the S/T was so huge. I used to hate "In the Heat of the Moment" but kinda like it now. I was only 7 when it came out so it's hard to get a frame a reference as to why their first album was so big.
@Daniel-415-Ponce
3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest problem with Asia's Alpha album is not necessarily the quality of the songs on it but that it was overproduced, resulting in a product that was too slick, too bombastic and too saccharine. Had the band taken a more organic approach to the songs by stripping down production, and maybe also included a couple of more complex proggy songs that showed off the individual members' instrumental virtuosity, then the album as a whole would have been much more solid and would have aged more gracefully.
@joeking5310
3 жыл бұрын
Geoff Barton, very well known uk critic, loved the elder and hyped it to kingdom come, but no one else did. I think it was his album of the year.
@iancaley2347
3 жыл бұрын
I recall that. Plus he lauded Unmasked too i believe. Btw, i used to love getting Sounds, and wasn't he also instrumental in getting Kerrang up and running??
@joeking5310
3 жыл бұрын
@@iancaley2347 yes he did. Wasn't he the first editor of kerrang?
@iancaley2347
3 жыл бұрын
@@joeking5310 I believe he was. Bad mark against him though if he came up with the name! : ))
@FundamentalsUK
3 жыл бұрын
Agree Pete about isolation, brilliant album, and does top Toto 4 imo as well 👍🏻
@brianseneca3546
3 жыл бұрын
I dont remember that Toto album......I dont remember 1984 either. They tell me I had a GREAT time!!!
@RaiderfanCali
3 жыл бұрын
I remember when it came out. The video in b&w didn’t exactly scream “lead off single, we’re back “
@aaronjschaefer
3 жыл бұрын
I was 13 when HSAS came out. Vinyl came my way but it was largely ignored because Piece of Mind, Out Of The Cellar and Grace Under Pressure were spinning a lot...
@Baz63
3 жыл бұрын
A bit surprised that Martin's least favourite ZZ Top album being Recycler...for me their last La 'Futura' was their nadir with just the opening track being the only track i listen to these days. Still each to their own.
@jeffmazzei8520
3 жыл бұрын
Thank You Pete another great show today !
@mattleone5831
3 жыл бұрын
When’s Chinese Democracy coming out?
@charleslipscomb2567
3 жыл бұрын
You would have to ask the Chinese government.
@MRB16th
3 жыл бұрын
@@charleslipscomb2567 I believe at about the same time as the three album box set (which contains Hong Kong Independence and Taiwanese Recognition).
@danzemacabre8899
3 жыл бұрын
@@MRB16th word is they're scrapping the whole 3 separate album thing and just doing one disc called Iron Fist, Motorhead fans might complain, but what can ya do....
@MRB16th
3 жыл бұрын
@@danzemacabre8899 That's a significant change.
@danzemacabre8899
3 жыл бұрын
@@MRB16th we can only hope maybe a different record company might get involved , because, i really like the 3 album concept, just room for a whole lot more creativity, but these things are really kinda up in the air, especially with that one idiot thats running that one company, how'd he even get that job?? I dunno.....
@SCOTTLAROCK73
Ай бұрын
I loved Ace’s 1981 costume… I’d say it’s my second favorite next to the “Love Gun” costume.
@jasoneubank514
3 жыл бұрын
These are albums I do like really like that was Bombs 1)Warrant Dog Eat Dog 2)Poison Narive Tongue 3)Def Leppard Slang 4)Amy Grant Smple Things 5)Winger Pull 6)Vixen Tangerine
@chrisflood9205
3 жыл бұрын
Dog eat dog was great
@ronbo11
3 жыл бұрын
I love that your list has an Amy Grant album in it! Taste is broad my man.
@deangawley1913
3 жыл бұрын
Great list, Pull is a fantastic album, Slang is great and Native Tongue is criminally underrated
@jasoneubank514
3 жыл бұрын
@@ronbo11 I really like different types of music if they do a part 2 I will have another five albums of my list.
@berliner0
3 жыл бұрын
@@ronbo11 yep
@63mckenzie
3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with Pete about Toto Isolation. Brilliant album. Endless had massive hit all over it.
@LarryFleetwood8675
3 жыл бұрын
They released four singles from this great album; "Stranger in Town" (Oct. 84) , "Holyanna" (Jan 85), "How Does It Feel" (Feb 85), "Endless" (April 85).
@63mckenzie
3 жыл бұрын
@@LarryFleetwood8675 Change Of Heart could have been another
@HelgeKS
3 жыл бұрын
Queen - Hot Space... Granted, there may be some ok moments on side 2, but my brain has been discoed too much to death on side 1 to appreciate the Under Pressures of this world....AND it bombed commercially.
@LzCoda
3 жыл бұрын
Priest Turbo & Maiden Seventh Son. Was so disappointed with each. Priest eventually came back stronger, Maiden never did.
@markandersen793
3 жыл бұрын
The first thing that comes to my mind is Van Halen 111 with Gary Cherone, that album was dead on arrival and yes DOA was a great song on Van Halen 2.
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