Wow you all are some kind of pioneers. Very professional. I am soaking this up!
@hatthowe
13 жыл бұрын
@arthurcnoll The clover seems to add P and K as well as micronutrients. In our research it added very high levels of K and Fe, esp. mid to late season. But, of course, if you keep harvesting lots of veggies off of a piece of land (removing lots of biomass, even permanent living mulch won't keep up with nutrient replacement. Rotation out of production is also key.
@pcbessa
12 жыл бұрын
Helen, hmm, when you remove all that grass and weeds, all the soil structure is broken and soil becomes heavily dependant on water (whereas during the pasture was not). I am not sure if the plowing to go for the clover was the most sustainable step forward. I would perhaps do a small sized tilling for annual vegs, but for growing grain, I would try seedballs, prob dry resistant types (like millet). In the pasture I would stick broad beans here and there, other n-fixing trees and other edibles.
@jessicalowther56
Жыл бұрын
Did you try different types of clover?
@MARTIALLAWLESS
13 жыл бұрын
i never comment on your channel but, i love you guys!...just wanted you to know...
@arthurcnoll
13 жыл бұрын
This would logically add nitrogen, to increase the clover. But for all the other vital nutrients, you will simply be mining the pasture to feed the vegetables, which isn't sustainable.
@vention4wh
13 жыл бұрын
That's Helen? I didn't expect her to be such a handsome woman. Your podcasts with her were awesome. I'm eager to see who's right in your nitrogen fixing plant, nitrogen sharing disagreement I have a little cucumber sprout here at the condo that just sat in my deck garden for weeks and weeks but when I planted alfalfa to cover the soil on that planter, the cucumber plant started growing. I'm kind of leaning toward some degree of nitrogen sharing, but I'm a diesel mechanic, not a permaculturist
@arthurcnoll
13 жыл бұрын
Rotation out of production does not solve the problem. The volume of soil that plants have their roots in is finite, outside nuclear reactions matter is not created or destroyed. Nutrients may be chemically-physically locked up in soil particles, and given time may be broken free by bacteria, freeze- thaw cycles, but this just means depletion happens in steps. Either the nutrients are recycled after being eaten, or they must be added in from somewhere else, or the situation cannot last.
@hatthowe
11 жыл бұрын
Update 3 years later: After lightly tilling in the 50 year-old pasture in 2004 and seeding the living mulch, then not disturbing the row middles, just disturbing the crop beds each spring here's the story in 2013: the pasture has moved back with mostly perennial grasses, some clover, some annual & perennial weeds. They compete with veg crops & yields have gone down.Raspberries doing great. Native shrubs & trees yields are low. There is no one-size fits all recipe!
@williamgreene4834
5 жыл бұрын
Are you planting a fall cover?? if not all your nitrogen just bleeds away. Winter is the best time to build soil especially if you have dry summer. There should never be a time that there isn't a living root in the ground. Gaps in time without living roots cause you fungi and microbes to die off. The sheep did the first damage which in a dry area is brutal to recover from.
@arfelmcfarfel
6 жыл бұрын
Smart and handsome. I could marry this woman. Thanks for schooling us neanderthals, Helen.
@ECOAGROMAX
12 жыл бұрын
A brief report on the scientific Research in the field of agriculture, particularly with such a mineral as "Zeolite" - the laboratory of the Institute of Agriculture Soil UAAS, led by the Academy of Agricultural Sciences Professor Henry Masur Adolfovich. And in light of the birth of a universal ecological fertilizer "Tseolorg-U" (zeolite + organic)(know-how)
@agriculturalcampusplant-ba9618
3 жыл бұрын
You can find the The Ten Principles for Managing Ecological Relationships on Eco-Organic Farms by Carl Rosato and Helen Atthowe under files in our Facebook group at facebook.com/groups/ACPBS
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