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@SpringBlingThing
Жыл бұрын
And he was atrocious to Callie. He’s the worse type of nice guy. Because he’s not the macho guy, he inherently thinks he’s a good person.
@Jessica-wo6px
Ай бұрын
And cheated on her with Izzie who was just as awful to her. Everybody treated Callie like crap in the beginning.
@creategenius719
Жыл бұрын
A phrase Jenny Nicholson used in her "Dear Evan Hansen" film review works well to describe George. "Maybe he isn't a nice boy. Maybe he's just a quiet boy."
@davidunderwood1773
Жыл бұрын
That is a fantastic quote.
@Cyndib93
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow
@missj794
Жыл бұрын
I also didn't like how everybody was judging Meredith after she slept with George as if he was this pure, innocent person she took advantage of.
@weasleylove2987
Жыл бұрын
Yeah they constantly talked as if he is not a fucking adult that can make his own decisions.
@JJ-yn4cj
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but if the girl had a crush and a guy slept with her and he turned out to bot want her, then he would also be the bad guy taking advantage of a girl he knows had feelings for him more than just physical. And she would be the victim not an adult that can make her own decisions. They are just treating the guy like they would the girl for once.
@BabaCorva
Жыл бұрын
@@JJ-yn4cj Nah, as a chick who spent most of their 20s in hard crush land (and who mostly had experiences like George and Meredith from George's side), I wasn't a victim and most folks didn't have more than basic sympathy for me. Looking back, I know that I was allowing my own issues to stop me from pursuing people who would be good to me; my behavior wasn't okay just because I was the one with a crush. At least I never made the guys out to be some massive villain because they turned out to want exactly the friendship they'd been telling me they wanted all along. George was a jerk for this. By this point it was well-established that Meredith dealt with her dark feelings by sleeping with any willing guy in her vicinity. George knew this and PUT himself in that position. He was finally the one in the right place and he lied to himself that he was doing anything differently. And then when she cried she tried to tell him it wasn't even about him but HE was the one who refused to listen. HE was the one who made the whole situation about her "using" him instead of recognizing that he approached her when he knew she was vulnerable in a particular way and that if he'd just slowed down and talked to her it might still have been different.
@REXAURDAAPEKING
Жыл бұрын
I think y’all gotta rewatch the show bc when they made up he revealed he was mainly mad at himself
@BucketThinkTank14657Nerd
11 ай бұрын
@@REXAURDAAPEKING and that's honestly why I can't hate George for that. It was really just two people making bad decisions and George feeling bad enough about it to move out and not talk to Meredith as she constantly tells him she's sorry when he blames himself for it.
@LennyPepper
Жыл бұрын
Cristina nailed it when she said, “If you want crappy things to stop happening to you, then stop accepting crap and demand something more.”
@angelaholmes8888
Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly
@az21bob666
9 ай бұрын
What a stupid thing to say. Tell that to any victim.
@donnieabrahams6823
10 күн бұрын
Yup
@TheQueenlucy
Жыл бұрын
He treated Callie terribly and enabled Izzie’s mean girl disrespect towards her, culminating in the affair. And something else that bothered me was the way he blamed Christina for helping to cover Burke’s tremor but was didn’t h the same energy for Burke who was the actual authority figure. And it’s made even more hypocritical considering he helped Izzie with the cutting of Dennys LVAD that lead to stealing an organ and Denny’s death. He’s in no place to judge the ethics of anyone else.
@caylincoleman8758
Жыл бұрын
Exactly how I felt about the Christina and burke situation. He clearly had a problem with the women in his life. Also how he and Izzy saw Christina as a robot for the bulk of the time they were on the show, even when she told her about her cancer was sick.
@REXAURDAAPEKING
Жыл бұрын
Holy fuck did you people even watch the show he specifically explained he wasn’t as mad at Burke bc his career was on the line Christina’s wasn’t
@magnadelusor4249
11 ай бұрын
I think George was mad at Christina because she was his friend he expected more from her than Burke who he barely knew
@JasleenGhuliani
6 ай бұрын
@@REXAURDAAPEKING I think that it's more when compared to Meredith/Derek, George always assumed the Derek was using his seniority to take advantage of the relationship, and didn't apply the same to Christina/Burke. Plus knowing how badly Christina wants to go into cardiothoracic, Burke was at that point her only mentor, and he never eve thought of what Christina may be going through (she would betray her partner, as well as miss out on a huge learning opportunity). In both cases, the interns generally have a smaller say than Head of Departments (especially if you add gender politics on top)
@icedoatmilklatte910
Жыл бұрын
Alex was an asshole at times but I was cheering him on when he told off George about how he was treating Meredith. It was definitely one of the best reads on the entire show.
@Cakes01
Жыл бұрын
Which episode if you remember
@icedoatmilklatte910
Жыл бұрын
@@Cakes01 season 2 episode 21
@nont18411
Жыл бұрын
Alex is so underrated. A hard man outside but softy inside. Too bad he got screwed over by the showrunner.
@em-qr2qq
11 ай бұрын
Alex was an aswhole but he didn’t hide it from people. He didn’t pretend to be a victim.
@glogler
10 ай бұрын
@@nont18411 the actor left the show without notice. The showrunner had to make up an ending because Justin chambers refused to come back to the set.
@Choshako
Жыл бұрын
*Yes!* George is actually very awful to the women in his life for a character painted as "the good one" of the original interns. The way he silently pines after Meredith gets creepy and stalkery at a certain point, and he acts hostile to all the guys she's with, which is just childish. And that entire mess with Callie! That woman was a thousands leagues out of his league, she was head over heels in love with George, and not only did he marry her when he he didn't actually reciprocate these feelings, but he cheats on her with someone he repeatedly told her she had nothing to worry about. He lead Lexie on by *kissing her on the lips* and then was totally confused when she was hurt to find out he had zero romantic interest in her. I like the actor, he did a great job, but as for George, screw that guy.
@Jessica-wo6px
Ай бұрын
Why can't this show write a likable, rootable character? He could have been an underdog that everyone rooted for but instead he was just as selfish as the others at times🤦
@romicor9
Жыл бұрын
Actually, Katherine Heigl saying Izzie and George should have never happened and that they wrote their romance "for the fans" was one of the reasons she left the show and was labeled by Shonda as "difficult". In the end, she was kinda right. PS: I'd like to see a video about April Kepner. I can't make up my mind about her being nice or horrible, I guess she was both.
@bluestocking1870
Жыл бұрын
How was April horrible?
@BabaCorva
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I loathed that romance. It felt wrong from both directions and like the show was just gonna have everyone sleep with everyone else at some point. Part of what endeared me to Alex and Meredith's friendship is that it never needed to have sex as a component to feel important to them.
@asc5003
2 ай бұрын
Love me some kepner
@Jessica-wo6px
Ай бұрын
She was absolutely right
@ananya1721
Жыл бұрын
George concerned more about his ego than to actually care about a depressed Meredith breaking down in bed. Like whatever happened to aftercare for a woman you claimed to be head over heels in love with.
@Choshako
Жыл бұрын
@@wisdom9091 Impressive lecture, Freud Junior. 🙄 But the point of their comment wasn't "Ego bad!" Their point, which sailed right over your head, was that George was so focused on his own hurt feelings and pride as a man instead of being concerned over why a woman he's having sex with, a woman he's claimed to be in love with for several seasons, suddenly burst into tears. *That* was her point, but good job on the effort you put into your barely legible, unsolicited lecture about ego. Slow clap for you.
@mckymcobvious3043
Жыл бұрын
@@wisdom9091dear lord, "ego" can also do _exactly what we saw here,_ you got really defensive over someone apparently relating too much with the woman in that specific situation?? if you've done that, it's not like you're a completely terrible person, but you were in the wrong that time.
@mckymcobvious3043
Жыл бұрын
@@wisdom9091"Reason cults -Socialist- and abusers seek to destroy" ... someone said it should give you pause if the person you're hooking up with starts sobbing randomly and you have no idea why ... instead of freaking out at them for 'insulting you' or whatever, you should probably ask?? ... your brain brought a bunch of Turning Point USA talking points "SOCIALISTS WANT YOU TO HATE OWN INSTINCTS"
@theefleur
Жыл бұрын
Are you nuts? Meredith was whoring herself. George stopped and asked her ass what was wrong. SHE KNEW she didn’t want to sleep with him, and did it anyway. George did nothing wrong, Meredith was the one in the wrong. My goodness.
@melb6746
Жыл бұрын
@@wisdom9091what are you even on with this drivel?
@simonevolman4952
Жыл бұрын
a true nice guy will never constantly point out that he’s a “nice guy”. treating women and others with basic respect and decency is not an accomplishment, it should be the standard. if someone is desiring praise or recognition for not being an overt asshole, they aren’t doing it because they know it’s the right thing to do. they’re doing it because they want to benefit. george felt that he was “owed” romantic attention for being friendly, that’s not nice. that’s manipulative.
@theloverlyladylo9158
Жыл бұрын
S5 is my favorite season, and a serious comfort show, and a large part of that is how Mark, in his first conversation with Lexie, tells her she deserves better than George, especially if George doesn’t notice her pining
@BG12sofia
Жыл бұрын
I understand that a lot of fans have nostalgia for the early seasons of Grey's Anatomy but, to be honest, the early cast were a bunch of assholes. The way the girls treated Callie in the beginning is apalling.
@creategenius719
Жыл бұрын
Why were they so hostile to Callie? Was it only because she married George?
@icedoatmilklatte910
Жыл бұрын
@@creategenius719 I don’t know. I think they didn’t want Callie to join their clique/friend group. It was some petty, high school-level bs. I felt so bad for her
@lillysarethebest409
Жыл бұрын
@@creategenius719racism and fatphobia 100%
@Cakes01
Жыл бұрын
I think it was multiple things I saw someone comment racism and fat phobia and I agree I also think because Izzy she made it clear she didn’t like her and since Meredith was seen as the bad guy regarding the situation with her and George sleeping together Meredith may not have felt like she was in a place to stand up even tho she was well and grown enough too we saw what happened when her and Alex weren’t even officially together and he slept with that nurse she made sure no one talked to him
@krt3356
Жыл бұрын
@Cakes01 To the "racism and fatphobia" comment I'd also like to add "internalized misoginy, cuz Callie was so entirely comfortable with herself, it made the others clearly uncomfortable. And I also had the inkling that Izzy liked having him as a lackey/fan/simp even if she didn't like him back at first, and so when he showed love and interest to someone else, Izzy lashed out at Callie and dangled the carrot in front of George so he'd stay her lackey.
@lykeos69500
Жыл бұрын
So many shows try to write "nice guys" (big bang theory, how I met your mother, friends,...) and end up writing creepy characters, it's frightening...
@freakyfreak1994
Жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that true nice guys are not that internally conflicted. While if someone wants to look/be nice, but secretly wants the girl/the job so bad that he would do whatever: then there’s internal conflict. That dichotomy sucks.
@roddo1955
Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of nice guys women dream of rejecting in romance novels.
@loiracitr
Жыл бұрын
@@wisdom9091I think they mean Leonard
@barrysaxton31
2 ай бұрын
Pretty much
@Cakes01
Жыл бұрын
I love this video because I could go on and on about things I hate about George Edit : The scene with him and Meredith actually makes me uneasy like she way crying and he just got mad and left and to make matters worse he admitted he knew she was in a vulnerable position
@angelaholmes8888
Жыл бұрын
That scene is totally cringey
@Ankochan200
Жыл бұрын
I think that’s why he was mad At himself. For being this guy that he wasn’t. Yes he admitted that he did something bad but they both did. She took advantage of him like he did her. I think he was the nice (am still on the part where his dad is still alive) but he also had fault.
@snirks8635
3 ай бұрын
Meredith had a habit of sleeping with men to make herself feel better... she approached George for a tryst. I don't feel sorry for her in that sense, she's no victim.
@VivianStorm
Жыл бұрын
Grey´s Anatomy is quite mysogynistic when you analyze it. Owen was the absolute worst and they made Christina subservient of him for way too long. It was also weirdly forgiving of cheating in a relationship, making the person cheated on seem like not very empathetic? And people just fell in love and forgot their loved ones like it was nothing, but I guess that´s normal in these kind of shows
@yemio1005
Жыл бұрын
I agree with this! The ease with which people would cheat on whoever they were with was insane but I do think it’s reflected real life. People work so closely under alot of stress in hospitals it’s no wonder cheating was rife. And unfortunately the medical field would be misogynistic because it is so male dominated in the top positions
@lstarsabb
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the only reason Christina married him in the first place was because she was still processing the hospital shooting and was desperate for a lifeline.
@christinaburkemper3105
Жыл бұрын
I remember telling my college roommate that I really didn't like the show because I didn't like rooting for people who did so many questionable things (and the writers intend for us to root for them). She got really offended saying I shouldn't hate/judge people because they do bad things. Hello, they are characters written for a show to entertain viewers, not real people that I'm actually hurting by not watching the show.
@romicor9
Жыл бұрын
Owen was also quite awful to Amelia too. I get that she's not everyone's favourite but she went through a lot in her life and didn't deserve that.
@chrissiem3958
Жыл бұрын
I genuinely believe that sometimes, the Nice Guy trope is actually just an offshoot of the Toxic Male. Both have a massive through line of entitlement, but where Toxic Males think they are owed everything just because they are men, Nice Guys think they are owed everything because of 'suffering'. For example, 'I am pining after you/Im not a hot alpha and dont try to be/I am the underdog, and therefore I should be rewarded for my self sacrifice'.
@kourtneykingz8363
Жыл бұрын
I think that's what makes it even more real. These guys can be the absolute worst.
@roddo1955
Жыл бұрын
@@wisdom9091nah. In real life, these people would get treated for BPD and fired for inappropriate behaviour on the workfloor.
@TheCaliforniaboy1
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad there's a mix of holding the character accountable but also showing compassion for what the actions come from in this video. Being your own worst enemy and understanding your worth is tough climb to realise all of the time.
@msfriendsfan4ever788
Жыл бұрын
Your next video should be, Izzie Stevens - And her mean girl streak
@sarab3417
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@icedoatmilklatte910
Жыл бұрын
Yes! I couldn’t stand Izzy
@LillyBelle951
Жыл бұрын
meredith, cristina and izzie were a mean girl trio if we're all being honest
@icedoatmilklatte910
Жыл бұрын
@@LillyBelle951 the way they all treated Callie in the earlier seasons was disgusting
@krombopulos_michael
Жыл бұрын
Izzy was the worst character, hands down.
@violet6450
Жыл бұрын
The 'nice guy' is just a man who failed to meet the standard of 'masculinity' (which is a foolish standard to begin with). However, instead of blaming the patriarchy that established those standards, he blames women. He believes it is unfair that he doesn't get the most attractive girl and has to settle for someone he considers 'ugly,' without realizing that the idea of possessing women or using sex as a measure of status is terrible and misogynistic. He fails to recognize that the same system that harms women is also responsible for his own suffering.
@dionruffin3996
Жыл бұрын
I made a comment similar to yours a few minutes without seeing this I really think u explained it better 👍
@soni8995
Жыл бұрын
🎯
@az21bob666
9 ай бұрын
He never believed he should get the best looking women. None of that was true
@BloodyMary74
Жыл бұрын
If you think too hard about this, all of them were pretty horrible. Meredith and Derreck get super drunk before a hard day of work at the hospital. Izzy has an incredibly unprofessional relationship with a patient resulting in the death of two people needing a transplant. Alex is just mean.
@missj794
Жыл бұрын
All of them could be horrible and wonderful at different points, like all humans. I think that's what makes a good character.
@doughnuthead8757
Жыл бұрын
These shows need drama.
@walnutsrcool
Жыл бұрын
Honestly hated him from his first lines: weirdly memorizing Meredith’s outfit and mentioning her black dress and “strappy heals” in the locker room in front of everyone is so uncomfortable. Then lying to other male coworkers first day that he and Meredith are super close when she doesn’t even know his name
@BellesView
Жыл бұрын
Omg you’re so right.
@idealstrontium
Жыл бұрын
Okay, now I need a character study on Alex Karev, please 🙏🏻
@danni639
Жыл бұрын
Not if it means we have to watch her pronounce Karev like that again 😬
@mr2oxking
Жыл бұрын
I’d say like all the characters on this show he’s just a victim of the writers needing drama, all the characters are constantly doing out of character bullshit so the show can keep creating drama. The only character that isn’t occasionally a complete monster is DR. Bailey
@roddo1955
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. George's role seemed like a dissertation from a film student. Every season he went from 'meek' to 'selfish' and back again. George was a writers' punching bag.
@_The_Archive_
Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Patrick Dempsey auditioned for the role of Dr. Gregory House on House (2004), before taking the role of Dr. Shepherd.
@coolbanana7
Жыл бұрын
He could never have matched up to Hugh Laurie
@KasDlonewolf
Жыл бұрын
@@coolbanana7came here to say that! Amen!
@outinsider
Жыл бұрын
When the show first came out, I could relate to George. In retrospect so many years later, having seen his character play out, I think I needed someone better to relate to.
@harleylovett7298
Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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@SamiLo2
Жыл бұрын
He’s the typical “nice guy.” The guy who says he’s “nice,” but in reality is a creep. He even admitted to taking advantage of Meredith and then had the nerve to get mad at her because he took advantage of her and that didn’t make her swoon.
@az21bob666
9 ай бұрын
He did not take advantage of her and she even said he did not. Stop making stuff up
@maryhildreth754
Жыл бұрын
Yes, in death most people's failings get swept under the rug unless they are huge, horrible problems.
@hannahedmond4388
Жыл бұрын
I think George heard Owen say the word "needed" and made up his mind because he just wanted to be needed by someone.
@SpringBlingThing
Жыл бұрын
He got mad at Meredith in the midst of that moment. He never stopped to think he should get off her and comfort her. That moment he could only think about himself. He wasn’t a terrible, terrible person but he was extremely selfish. He was a jaded, insecure person. The way he let the world treat him was the worlds fault. Not his own.
@theefleur
Жыл бұрын
Y’all can’t be serious.
@vvieites001
Жыл бұрын
@@theefleuryes. We can. The way George got mad at Meredith for crying during sex was messed up. And then made her feel like it was her fault for “using him” 🙄 no, he was selfish and using his “nice guy” act to get her to sleep with him and then got mad at her for feeling uncomfortable during. So gross.
@theefleur
Жыл бұрын
@@vvieites001 omg she totally used him. Meredith KNEW she was not in the state to have sex and she KNEW how much George liked her. You guys are acting like he assaulted her. Meredith is totally at fault in this situation. George really basically loved Meredith and because she was being… friendly we’ll say, she just used him and broke down. He did stop and ask her what was wrong. Like come on, even everyone on the show was telling Meredith that was wrong.
@lillysarethebest409
Жыл бұрын
@@theefleurnd george knew she just had a break up with someone she loved and wasnt over and still chose to sleep with her like come on meredith was a mess at that point sleeping with everyone and getting drunk all the time no way he couldnt see that and was just like “welp she loves me and after this everything will be great and we will live happily ever after” he was just horny and took the opportunity
@theefleur
Жыл бұрын
@@lillysarethebest409 if she was sleeping with everyone that sounds like she should’ve taken responsibility for herself and made the right choice. Like, let’s be honest Meredith was complete mess for sure, but George didn’t harm her and maybe, just maybe he was being naive enough to think this was something special. Because remember, this actually hurt George’s feelings, not his ego. Like Cristina told her, he’s the weaker kid. This was on Meredith I’m sorry. Also, yes, Lily’s are the best 🤣💕
@trinaq
Жыл бұрын
While George wasn't exactly a Saint, TR Knight was treated badly on the set, including being called a homophobic slur by costar Isiah Washington, and not being able to speak to Shonda Rhimes. He seems to have mended fences with them since, as he came back for a dream sequence in 2020.
@Mr.-Roybot
Жыл бұрын
But not before they brought back Isaiah Washington which is mind boggling
@VioletEmerald
Жыл бұрын
He didn't have to have mended fences with either of them to come back because Isaiah Washington wasn't on the show regularly then or involved in him coming back for the Dream Sequence, and Shonda had left and the show had a new executive producer by then.
@krombopulos_michael
Жыл бұрын
What the actors were like in really life doesn't really have any bearing on the characters.
@roddo1955
Жыл бұрын
The Isaiah Washington situation wasn't as cut and dry as was presented. The decision wasn't Shonda's. It was the 'powers that be'.
@lstarsabb
Жыл бұрын
I thought the slur was to Patrick Dempsey. It doesn't make it better, but i thought he got into it with Dempsey.
@MrPassion4truth
Жыл бұрын
This hits the nail on the head. I think the changes in George was a reflection of the change in TR Knight who refused to play George as a lovable loser.
@davidjackson6475
Жыл бұрын
Am I alone in thinking that guys like this should be labelled as "two faced douchebags" rather than "nice guys"? I've always seen the "nice guy" as someone genuine in their kindness and it pisses me off that they get misrepresented.
@Knrr-yr2dd
9 ай бұрын
I agree.
@az21bob666
Ай бұрын
No he made.some.mistaken but still a good person. I mean allmost everyone else was worse. But there not call.out as much
@hstewar
Жыл бұрын
People aren’t 100% good or 100% bad. People are MESSY. We make bad decisions and make mistakes.
@amandaredd3057
Жыл бұрын
They were all horrible to Callie in the beginning and it ticked me off. It was like highschool or something
@erikadlloyd5586
Жыл бұрын
The Izzy and George hooking up story line was full on cringe. I don't agree with the writer of Greys killing George off. His character was leaving anyways for the Army.
@ElvisRose_
Жыл бұрын
Every character on Grey's Anatomy is pretty terrible as individuals but throw two of them together and their terribleness increases tenfold. I found none of them redeemable after that prom in the season two finale. It baffles me that not only is this show still on the air but that it led to Shonda Rhimes creating her own television empire even though her signature style are terrible people in toxic environments in the most unhealthy relationships but whether it's doctors or presidents compromising their ethics or straining morality, if it's packaged as romantic then I guess it's okay! 🙄
@Orisiya
Жыл бұрын
I agree :D I was a teenager when the series started and I was obsessed. I recently rewatched the first couple of seasons and now I noticed how incredibly immature most of the characters are.
@suzygirl1843
Жыл бұрын
Shondra Rhimes loves writing about infidelity
@missj794
Жыл бұрын
Well, it makes good drama.
@rayray2528
Жыл бұрын
It’s just so weird and awful. Not to be over dramatic but watching too much Shonda as a teenager made me loose trust in men as as adult . That and the fact that my dad wasn’t always the best dad around . He didn’t cheat but he was an alcoholic .
@krombopulos_michael
Жыл бұрын
@@missj794tbh, I don't think it really does. It just ends up being clichéd.
@cazia9
Жыл бұрын
George made a lot of mistakes, a LOT, and had just begun figuring out his life when he was killed…one had to wonder what time in the military would have done for him owning up to his past errors
@kimberley3577
Жыл бұрын
Ok now do Alex’s character arch pls 🌚 smoothest and most realistic in cinematic history
@princessdyn
Жыл бұрын
I never understood the George Hero Worship. I was glad he was gone. I couldn't stand Derek either and couldn't see any of his supposed "dreaminess". I hated how the show dumbed down Addison when she was leagues above him just for a fake love triangle in which she was the loser from the beginning.
@Islandgirl873
8 ай бұрын
I completely agree with all of this. That's why Christina is my favourite character she's completely true to herself.
@annapurnasaha5844
Жыл бұрын
I dont know why everyone loved gorge or remember him as a nice guy...what he did to meredith is i can forget but what he did to his wife was so bad i hate that fact
@userabc222
Жыл бұрын
I mean he’s kinda right that’s about ppl with power/authority over others shouldn’t be sleeping with the ppl they have power over
@Jessica-wo6px
Ай бұрын
Correct. I agree with him on that front.
@eddyesdras
Жыл бұрын
Omg this is so nostalgic. Makes me wanna cry :') my life in 2008, 2009 and 2010 was so iconic due to G'sA and other lovable series ☺️☺️🥰
@xzxzojkeymtzxzx7712
Жыл бұрын
he tries, but he victimises himself so much that he can't see, sometimes its not about him
@Jessica-wo6px
Ай бұрын
It would have been much better had he ACTUALLY been the underdog that everyone underestimated and overlooked and ridiculed and being able to overcome it and prove himself in the end. The show could have been a lot better had they not focused on sex all the time and body parts and instead took more attention to the characters becoming good doctors who care about patients and growing and learning and being better people.
@LeLeB37
Жыл бұрын
I AM SO GLAD SOMEBODY FINALLY SAID IT! Boy that bus came right on time. 😂
@flymilo904
Жыл бұрын
And why does everyone hate Callie she didn’t do anything wrong
@CrimsonNineTail
Жыл бұрын
I never got into Grey's Anatomy, but it seems possible they could've explored George more. The BTS drama on set probably cut thar short though.
@idealstrontium
Жыл бұрын
Never date the nice guy. They usually have an alternative motive or have a tendency to lash out the most. Date the Karev, not the George. Karev's might be an asshole up front but at least they're honest about it and trust themselves. (I mean, the Karev might just up and leave you for his ex-wife but up until that point)
@titocantarero1330
Жыл бұрын
He’s one of those type of “good” guys that are concerned with what looks like the right thing and superficial good guy things that they end up being an asshole trying to do the right thing, or hate confrontation that they ghost people, or inadvertently treat people badly because they don’t want to be deemed as an ass cause they can’t be direct. They are more selfish and worse for taking this approach then just being a good person. I can’t stand guys like this. That’s why at the end of the day even though Alex is a jerk he in reality is a good guy cause he means what he says and he’s direct and as the show goes on he really just had a crappy life but ends up maturing and those qualities help him grow.
@Swimdeep
Жыл бұрын
If you know any doctors, they are emotionally immature. The nature of medical education squeezes out other experiences during the important emotional growth period of one’s twenties.
@davidwilds8647
Жыл бұрын
Alex over George any way. Alex was an asshole and never pretended to be anything else, and his assholishness was due to trauma in his background and psychological stuff that he genuinely did seem to work through and work on himself over the course of the series. Cristina even at one point asked "what have you done to Evil Spawn?"
@Jessica-wo6px
Ай бұрын
They were both bad at times
@CoralieCC
Жыл бұрын
It would have been interesting to see how he could've evolved as a character had the actor not left the show then. Could he have learned from his mistakes, and even become a deserving fan favorite in the end?
@dariamorgendorffer7813
Жыл бұрын
He was no nice guy! He was a loyal friend, but, relationship-wise, he wasn't a nice guy the way he portrayed himself to be. The episode after his Meredith mistake was atrocious. Kept trying to portray himself as the victim, and blaming everyone while knowing that he was making a mistake. Yes, Meredith was self-centred, on many occasions, but his constant self-victimization was heavy-handed! He was extremely judgemental towards Olivia for sleeping with Alex. The girl wasn't his girlfriend, so he had no business judging her the way he did. Or judging Callie for sleeping with Mark after he rejected her so many times! He never wanted to commit to the relationship.
@az21bob666
9 ай бұрын
No he was mad that she give him a STD.
@az21bob666
Ай бұрын
She give him a std and the other was his girlfriend. Sorry but he was in the right both time
@kyyyoshi
Жыл бұрын
i hated him, i cant believe how they choose to ignore that he literally took advantage of Meredith while she was drunk and he DARED to blame her because she didn't reciprocate his whiny ass feelingsssss
@abbie_joan
Жыл бұрын
wait...I didn't remember that part I know she was crying and sad but she was drunk too?? oh HELL no... that's not just an awkward sex moment that's straight up rape, and he wanted her to apologize when she couldn't give proper consent??
@softestsatin663
Жыл бұрын
I think the ending hit the nail on the head with George’s biggest problem: He’s always going to be the “what-if” of all the characters. His potential, as a person or a surgeon, never was fully realised. It doesn’t help that a lot of his worst moments (particularly his marriage with Callie) was at the tail-end of his own life. He’s practically invisible during season five and never gets any true conclusion with any of his relationships at Grey-Sloan. I think the reason why people can’t fully commit to hating George as a character is the veil of possibility Grey’s placed him under. Because he could have really lived an INCREDIBLE life with an abundance of confidence, but now his legacy is one full of missed opportunities.
@Jessica-wo6px
Ай бұрын
He should have gone off to the military and come back being a stronger and more confident person after character growth and being able to stand up for himself. That and getting rid of his insecurity issues
@shanstergoodheart5177
Жыл бұрын
The Meredith incident really pissed me off. He was awful to her for ages about it and she did NOTHING wrong. All she did was cry when they were having sex when she was at a very low ebb. Yeah it probably wasn't good for his pride but any decent man would be mortified that they'd accidentally taken advantage of their friend. Not George, he cuts her off and even Meredith said that she was a terrible person and she needed to be forgiven and everyone agreed. Except Alex, who I have problems with but was right about this. Ugh. Even if she had been really happy beforehand and decided it was a mistake half way through she still would have done nothing wrong. I can semi-understand the Callie issue as he made an impulse decision to marry her following the death of his Father and it was clearly something he regretted. Someone needs to put signs in the Doctor's lounge of that hospital reminding people "don't make big life decisions after trauma". Yang did the same thing after the shooting with Owen. Mistake. Doesn't excuse the cheating but at least it makes sense unlike poor Meredith.
@Jessica-wo6px
Ай бұрын
And the fact everybody freaking defended him and made him out to be an innocent victim. Don't get me wrong, she wasn't innocent either and she did play on his emotions and used him but it doesn't change the fact he used the situation to have his chance with her, knowing full well that she was not interested in him and wanted to play hero when this was the worst time for him to be doing this and they hurt each other in the process. Hate how one sided this was and everyone took sides when they were BOTH in the wrong for what happened. Just baffles me beyond reason
@chalyndajackson9384
Жыл бұрын
He even admitted to Meredith that he saw she wasn't happy sleeping with him BUT KEPT HAVING SEX WITH HER BECAUSE AT LEAST HE GOT TO BE WITH HER!
@ericabingham0417
Жыл бұрын
In all fairness, most of the characters on this show are either unstable, selfish, and unprofessional or at very least immature for doctors. Then again they all have their good qualities too. I mean, they save lives and all i guess lol (even if their reasons to do so may have started off selfishly, I bet that’s often how it happens in real life too)
@martinfenicien8412
Жыл бұрын
The knee jerk reaction I had to this title was instant since he was favorite character on the show. But points were absolutely made here, as usual on The Take. 😂😂😂
@krombopulos_michael
Жыл бұрын
George and Izzy couldn't be killed off fast enough but they stuck around like a bad smell for numerous seasons anyway
@evoLTenshi
Жыл бұрын
I've always seen George as the character that couldn't quite catch up to the others. In all areas he struggled to meet the moment. Very few times he did so though, and that's when the hospital could see him truly shine. But relationships, career choices, family...he was always running behind, failing to see what needed to be done. Going to the military maybe was what he needed. A structure, a reality check elsewhere. Who knows?He might have been a badass trauma surgeon like Owen. Even if his reasons might have been selfish. That could have helped him.
@xxxhu710
Жыл бұрын
okay now i want izzy, or jackson or kepner’s character study😮
@KariAlarcon
Жыл бұрын
Every single man in this show is terrible, I may have had respect for Alex and Mark because they were mean but they were honest about it, they didn't play the nice guy card with anyone, and they didn't pretend. George was the worse IMO, playing the victim and I was glad when Meredith stopped apologizing and told everyone that they were both adults and he had responsibility for that mistake too. The way Alex put him in his place was amazing
@az21bob666
9 ай бұрын
George never play the nice guy. People don’t even know what that means.
@flymilo904
Жыл бұрын
So I’m not the only one watching /rewatching this these days
@erauprcwa
Жыл бұрын
I just clicked on this video to make this comment. I already know what's gonna be posted. I still like George and feel had the actor stayed around, his character would've had some great storylines, especially with April Kepner. I feel his character right before his death could've grown and became a doctor and character to be rivaled with and recognized his own toxicity.
@poou2004
Жыл бұрын
I've been saying this ever since I watched it he's was so annoying but everyone loved him I never understood it 😭
@az21bob666
Ай бұрын
Because these people just use unfair standard. I mean his dad dieing. His brother are teasing him. And he get mad. And then you try ing to say that make him a bad guy.
@dangalvan2484
Жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the fact that the name of the nurse is not Harper, is Olivia. Also, I think George is a good character when he is not pinning for anyone. When he is single. He can be a good friend. What I do hate about his death is that he was already getting written out of the show. They could have just sent him to war and never look back, but oh no, they had to kill him. Why bother with the soldier storyline if they were going to kill him anyways?
@teemick7594
8 ай бұрын
Her full name is Olivia Harper. When she comes back in Season 14 she gives her married name of Jankovic. The actor asked to kill off his character because he was afraid of them recasting the role.
@glogler
Жыл бұрын
Do Owen Next!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!
@jbennett87
Жыл бұрын
If Ross Geller were an ACTUAL doctor, 😂😂😂
@az21bob666
Ай бұрын
It not like joey and Chandler were not just as bad.
@abbie_joan
Жыл бұрын
i was so mad that he took advantage of Meredith while she was very compromised emotionally and got mad after he basically manipulated her for sex and then makes HER comfort him?? nah that one always rubs me the wrong way
@snirks8635
3 ай бұрын
Uhh, Meredith initiated that encounter. She's just as liable for the fallout
@MoonTemple
Жыл бұрын
when he was describing himself and izzie and why she'd never like him like he didnt bag the baddest bitch ever. Callie is gorgeous like bro come on
Did you guys read my mind? I was just thinking this yesterday! Anyways, I couldn’t quite put my finger on the reason why I disliked him through the first couple of seasons but you pretty much summed it up. He seems like the underdog but let’s lets his insecurities make him more into a sympathetic douche.
@monicac617
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU !!! I always thought George was a bad dude!!
@amandaredd3057
Жыл бұрын
George could be a jackass a goodly amount of the time
@imani2160
Жыл бұрын
It was an unpopular opinion at the time but I never like George. He was the ultimate "nice guy". He felt so entitled to Izzie and Meredith's affection and so dismissive of Callie. She had a better relationship with Mark and she never loved him. George annoyed me so much. I was not sad to see him go (although they way he went was horrible).
@juantorres-fk7bk
20 күн бұрын
I think the hatred towards him is more about him being weak than anything else, when you see any person, you see an ocean of flaws, every character has it but he stands out for being weaker than the others for having a weak character, there is something about a weak man that makes people despise him absolutely, its like in our nature or something, which is why the real fantasy of this show is anyone liking him at all.
@josefk7437
Жыл бұрын
The universe was out to get him, but it was also out to get every other character on this show. Grey's Anatomy took place in a "Final Destination" type universe that killed just about all its characters. If a guy was being a jerk with Nice Guy syndrome, just give it a few seasons and he will get killed horror movie style.
@strrts5135
Жыл бұрын
I like George as a doctor he was a good doctor but wasn’t a good person Almost like Alex but Alex grew and became a good person in the end I just think they ruined all Alex’s character growth with how they made him leave and hurt Jo
@cat.733
Жыл бұрын
That made me so mad! I don’t know why they couldn’t have just left him off screen - he was working in a completely different hospital anyway! Literally that one episode with Alex’s letter and DeLuca being accused of being bipolar because he was understandably upset with something made me stop the show. I didn’t even finish the last episodes of the season because of it.
@shanicem3442
Жыл бұрын
"Hey, it's Che Diaz!" Looool Sorry i had to. 😂😂😂😂
@SynneDennis
Жыл бұрын
Holy fuck, he gets EVISCERATED 😂😂😂
@flymilo904
Жыл бұрын
How does these algorithms work so many people rewatching certain shows at the same time¿
@Ana_Paula.Frasson
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, people go on and on about the perfection of 🔸️MAGIC🔸️, but I personally disliked all of them. I started the show in a stresseful point of my life, so instead of lashing out with my closed ones in real life, I would use the show to release my anger towards the characters. And don't allow the stress to interfere in my regular life. It was only around s6/7 that I actually started to enjoy as enterteiment and like a good number of characters.
@dionruffin3996
Жыл бұрын
Always remember the “nice guy” is never the good guy he’s just hiding his real intentions 😉
@SR-li5do
Жыл бұрын
Def a fake ass nice guy like most nice guys are 😂
@pnwokeleme
Жыл бұрын
I think I resonate with George because no matter how many times people tell you you are great or smart if you don’t believe it due to past trauma it won’t be realized. Why do I feel like the show was planning to make him a more confident and better character but the actor left instead. Similar to Alex. I like they put them in the military but I hate they killed him off. I think he had a lot of growing up to do. I hate that everyone got a chance to become a better person except him. You are right he was a flawed person.
@mariatxxxc
Жыл бұрын
Insecure guys are really dangerous
@danasjah
4 ай бұрын
I loved George, he wasn’t perfect but *I loved him*
@Islandgirl873
8 ай бұрын
I never liked George because I noticed all of the things mentioned in the video. He was an ok character for me.
@keysburntgucci9016
Жыл бұрын
George-Izzie are kinda the 'Ross & Rachael' of the GA
@lenouclt3416
Жыл бұрын
Did I have the biggest Mandela effect or is it nurse Olivia and not harper
@khloud75
Жыл бұрын
Yes she’s Olivia Harper
@VioletEmerald
Жыл бұрын
Her name being Olivia is memorable. Her last name I guess we didn't know.
@cabalpaxiarch7239
Жыл бұрын
Soooo, he's a lovable nice guy with... flaws? Wow, amazing insight. And it took you 18 years to figure that out? How did you reach such levels of dramaturgical analysis, it must be amazing.
@stephanieclark8327
Жыл бұрын
I really liked George. I thought he was sweet, kind, and really hard working. That in an alternative universe where he lived he would have been one of the best trauma surgeons out there, much like how April blossomed into one.....but effing hell, how he deserved to be punched in the face repeatedly for his behaviour with women....
@blackbetty476
Жыл бұрын
TOTALLY AGREE!!! I never liked him, he came off very manipulative and just as bad as many other male characters in hte show. McDreamy was McDouchey, Alex in the beginning was...well, Alex.
@Noneofthedays
Жыл бұрын
I’ve just rewatched the first 3 seasons, and I find his character to be among the worst. Selectively self-righteous, entitled, and manipulative. Not that the others are any better, though. 😜
@weasleylove2987
Жыл бұрын
I also never liked how he treated his family. Even after his dad talked to him he never tried to get on their level and for example pick a car. Like is brothers and fathers can't talk about the things he is interested in because they can't understand but he could talk about cars. He held like a whole speech about how the car choosing always goes the sake way. So why not choose a car yourself and change it.
@jennhernandz3912
9 ай бұрын
I mean, it was pretty obvious that George was the worst of the male characters on the show after the way he treated Meredith and when they had sex or almost had sex, then to top it off the way he did Callie after their wedding with Izzy. how dare he still think he was a good dude he was a skinny slimy little jerk, Georgia O’Malley was literally the worst character on the show and I was so glad when they got rid of him because it’s easy when you look at the entirety of the show not just the original first few seasons. Yes Alex originally was not that great of a dude but it was pretty easy to see after a few years of the show actually been on closer to like the sixth and seventh season that no Alex Karev was the best guy out of the little cast of the kids not the people that had been the attending the ones they had been under when they started like who the hell did George think he was to judge Meredith and Derek that wasn’t his place he was her friend he should’ve been there to support her not make her feel bad. He wasn’t even a good friend of people like I always looked at it like they shouldn’t mourn him as hard as they do he wasn’t a good person. He pretended to be a good person and hid behind that nice guy for sod, and was really one of the most tallest jerks on the show, hell because of him he realized he was gay. He was such a terrible man. He made a woman realized she never wanted to be with men.
@teemick7594
8 ай бұрын
Callie was NOT pregnant when they got married, so not a 'shotgun" wedding.
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