Personal anecdotes, historical context, and literary analysis all tied together. Great video. Larys finally exposing his wounds to Aegon - no matter how Machievallian the intentions - might be his best scene yet. I can't wait to see how the writers continue to handle the so-called Clubfoot, considering how murky his motivations are in Fire and Blood.
@krtaher
2 ай бұрын
keep glazing bud
@gaelcruz4528
2 ай бұрын
i love your team ups, the best asoiaf content creator buddies
@mattsavage9960
2 ай бұрын
@@krtaherGo watch season 7 and 8 of game of thrones then or rings of power lmfao. This show is not for you
@Lord_of_Karhold
2 ай бұрын
@krtaher they're literally friends who make content together. It's not glazing, it's genuine support
@NoSageMeadow
2 ай бұрын
This was my second favorite scene in the show, after the Otto firing. Aegon is the common factor in the best scenes, by the way.
@greatstationsyt
2 ай бұрын
As a disabled person (myelomeningocele), it’s always been really impressive to me how well GRRM writes disabled characters. Disability is thought about, talked about, and materially important to the plot and those characters, but it is never the only interesting or important part of those characters. A lot of writers fail to understand that balance.
@tinahs8269
2 ай бұрын
Indeed, a lot of people in general forget that balance. I work at a facility for disabled people, and always get comments "isn't it sad to work there" but I don't think of it that way. I love my residents' varied personalities more than I care about what they can't do.
@grayscales1864
2 ай бұрын
Yeah disabled folks are still very erased to the point people have that attitude “oh it’s sad” and yeah some shit definitely sucks for me but it’s just one part of me. Everyone has burdens to bear, disabled folks just have an extra burden in moving through the world
@rickyhunt4075
2 ай бұрын
I agree as someone with Spinal Stenosis it also is one of the reasons I like Wyllas Tyrell so much as despite his impairment he is only talked about in positive terms as opposed to Larys. I like the balance.
@joshkorte9020
2 ай бұрын
Also, a highly overlooked part of Jaime is his dyslexia.
@dr3dg352
2 ай бұрын
Yes! 💜 I bring it up often given that my spouse is dyslexic. Jaime must have felt a lot of pressure when having difficulty trying to learn certain responsibilities as the perceived heir to Casterly Rock.
@rickyhunt4075
2 ай бұрын
I believe that is only show canon though as I don't remember it being mentioned in the books tho I could be wrong it has been awhile.
@fhamdani99
2 ай бұрын
Also Tyrion, right? Isn't dwarfism a physical disability? (Sorry I don't know what other word to use)
@DizzyBusy
2 ай бұрын
@@fhamdani99 Tyrion has a disability, yes. But his is very visible and he's treated differently because of his height. Show-Jaime's dyslexia is kept secret.
@DizzyBusy
2 ай бұрын
@@rickyhunt4075No, you're correct. It is show only. The first thing Jaime did when he finally became a real Lord Commander was to tell Loras Tyrell to read history books
@mylittlethoughttree
2 ай бұрын
I was intrigued by the fetish at first because I hoped it was opening space to learn more about Larys, but then you don't learn anything more and there's no extra depth, so it just feels like two facts that you're encouraged to draw link between, in and of themselves: Larys has a fetish for feet. Larys has a clubbed foot. When that's all it is, it does feel quite reductive
@BlueMarsalis
2 ай бұрын
I don't feel it's reductive, I feel it is real.
@sticky_icky
2 ай бұрын
My headcannon is he doesn't have a foot fetish, he just did that to humiliate Alicent and feel powerful, and that's what got him off.
@kurasai6009
2 ай бұрын
@@sticky_ickythat's actually pretty cool way to look at it, but maybe they could've picked something else other than feet it's a lil on the nose
@Ashbrash1998
2 ай бұрын
@kurasai6009 I think they could have made it a bit more random, like in one instance it's feet in another it's like her gloves or something. As messed up as it is, the main point was that it's the mentality behind it. Not actually her feet or gloces.
@cloudbloom
2 ай бұрын
Love your channel Thought Tree🙏
@HK-gm8pe
2 ай бұрын
interesting fact : the actor of Larys was supposed to play Richard III ...its such a pity that he didnt get to do that role because he would have been amazing
@thing_under_the_stairs
2 ай бұрын
I'm sure that after this performance, he'll get another shot at it!
@HK-gm8pe
2 ай бұрын
@@thing_under_the_stairs I really hope so
@mauratlantean3002
2 ай бұрын
Play Richard III in which movie/series ?
@thing_under_the_stairs
2 ай бұрын
@@mauratlantean3002 I'm assuming they meant in the play. The one by Shakespeare, called "Richard III".
@mikemathisen2394
2 ай бұрын
My kingdom for his grace!
@warlordofbritannia
2 ай бұрын
I remember when they dug up Richard III. His journey to that parking lot is actually more roundabout than you’d expect-he wasn’t simply buried where he died at Bosworth Field, but his body given to a nearby monastery. When the Dissolution of the Monasteries occurred under Henry VIII half a century later, Richard’s body was disinterred and thrown into a nearby river. Obviously it was soon fished out and reburied but by whom and where were forgotten by history, if ever known. Thus his surprise unearthing back in 2013.
@PinkGrapefruit22
2 ай бұрын
The belief that his body was thrown into a river is actually based on a mix-up between two different locations made by a guy in the 17th century writing about notable spots in Leicester. Richard III's body was displayed in public for a couple of days after his death before being hastily buried in the church at Greyfriars Abbey in Leicester. Then, as you mentioned, during Henry VIII's reign, he dissolved many of England's abbeys, including Greyfriars. Eventually, the land of the former abbey was bought by a wealthy citizen of Leicester, who erected a monument over Richard III's tomb, which was now in his garden. However, the abovementioned 17th-century guy visited the former site of *Blackfriars* instead of the former site of Greyfriars, thereby missing the monument marking Richard III's grave, so he assumed that the body was now missing from its grave and invented the story of it being thrown into the river. Over the centuries, the land of the former Greyfriars passed into Leicester City Council's ownership, and they built offices, a school, roads, a car park, and various other things on the land, and the marker for Richard III's grave was lost at some point during all of that. The guy who made up the "tossed it in the river" story's version of events became the more remembered one somehow, so the actual location of the grave became "lost"-even to the point that someone put up a plaque next to the river claiming that was the spot where Richard III's body had been dumped. Then, people in the 20th century became interested in relocating Richard III's burial spot, and various people investigating the layout of the former abbey concluded he was probably buried under the car park. Finally, in 2012, the interested parties raised enough money and got the correct permissions and team together to actually excavate the car park, where they located his body on the first day of the dig, exactly where they'd expected to find it. In conclusion, there's no mystery as to how his body got to be under the car park. It is a bit mysterious that that one guy decided to just make up a story about his body being tossed in a river when he couldn't locate the grave and that his version of events became the accepted one.
@warlordofbritannia
2 ай бұрын
@@PinkGrapefruit22 Riiiiight, that’s it. Main point still is that his body has a convoluted history 😂 As to the remaining mystery-guy probably just couldn’t handle getting his color-named old abbey’s mixed up, so he decided the body must have been moved. The fact that he was writing a guide book accounts for why his version was better remembered, compared to some rich dude buying the land in the wake of the Dissolution.
@KingTheQueen_
2 ай бұрын
I like seeing the ASOIAF KZitemrs be more open about their personal lives, it takes alot of strength on a persona level and on the channel career level. Quinn relating his own story towards the character of Larys, World of Westeros sharing about being Autistic and him relating to Halaena's portrayal, Glidus and Alt Shift, etc. As much as these channels are on the topic of ASOIAF or other fantasy series, its helps put a personable face behind the screen.
@SamanthaBoooooooo
2 ай бұрын
Shift's battle against his bastard half brother is particularly compelling.
@epluribusunum1460
2 ай бұрын
@@SamanthaBoooooooo 😁😄😄
@AtamrarisTibia
2 ай бұрын
Just curious, what Glidus and Alt have shared from their personal life?
@ccorvid
2 ай бұрын
@@AtamrarisTibiamaybe I'm misremembering, but I feel like they've been very open about them both being absolute Plebs in the past. /lh
@sarahkreuzer8259
2 ай бұрын
Which World of Westeros video does he talk about his autism? I was curious to watch it but can’t seem to find it!
@lignjahal
2 ай бұрын
I would love to see a video on mental disabilities in ASOIF. As an autistic person, I relayed so much to Halaena and saw someone I understood completely.
@TheBenjamin109
2 ай бұрын
From a recent tweet, know you’re not fond of Bran CoK chapters, but honestly the way that it fully explores Bran as a child trying to navigate how radically his life has changed is what makes it so impactful for me. The way characters like Luwin, Osha, and the Reeds try to guide him. Especially the relationship between Luwin and Bran.
@hogndog2339
2 ай бұрын
I agree, but it definitely should’ve been 1-2 chapters shorter
@warlordofbritannia
2 ай бұрын
I finished rereading Clash for the xth time earlier today, those chapters are better than I remembered. The relationship between Bran and Luwin is especially bittersweet.
@TheBenjamin109
2 ай бұрын
@@warlordofbritannia Luwin is such an underrated character to me. Loved learning about how he actually believed in magic, but was unable to perform it himself. He sees Bran clinging to these ideas of magic/fantasy as a new way to escape his circumstances, and tries to find a way to temper that. He just doesn’t want to see Bran’s dreams crushed again. Love my Father Figure Maesters
@mrweirdguy5249
2 ай бұрын
I don't agree with people who find Bran's chapter at all. I find his chapters in general to be among the best. Maybe because I too am disabled and he really reminds me of my own childhood struggles.
@someangel-shape6797
2 ай бұрын
Bran’s chapters are by far the most enjoyable in that book to me. Followed closely by Catelyn and Tyrion.
@Rebel_Lord_Taron
2 ай бұрын
As a disabled Vet, I like Doran Martell's storyline and arc. He has made his mind in which all the more sharp due to his disability.
@Basileus1453
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service Lord Taron!
@elizabethinglee-richards7112
2 ай бұрын
Doran is my fav character even if my personal disability story is more like Wilas Tyrell (injured when riding against Oberyn Martell - I was riding a young horse when we were shot at )
@GreyWasteTim
2 ай бұрын
Yes, would very much enjoy a mental condition video - particularly depression and PTSD as shown by Aegon III
@hoboheretic5988
2 ай бұрын
Yes! (Also, was watching an old lore vid the other day and thought about you when a bunch of oranges spilled during the waif/arya chase scene. That’s a great video, sir.)
@fitpheyoga9234
2 ай бұрын
I was born via Cesarean, have been wearing glasses since age 7, and have a kidney transplant. I am grateful to be born in a time where I could survive and thrive; and think about this quite often. I found my people!!! 💜
@KuromiMago
2 ай бұрын
As a person with autism and ADHD, alongside a slight malformation of my left-foot that oftenly puts me in pain or falling around, House of the Dragon has two characters to draw me in: Helaena and Larys. The most interesting thing about Helaena is how her powers are portrayed, and even how the audience reacts them; Helaena dreams and sees in the future, living a non-linear timeline, most often than not saying cryptic things that soon materialize as futuresight. Many people are slightly annoyed by how NOBODY listens to Helaena, and they waste her potential...so, let me say this: this is exactly what happens in reality. Nowadays most autistic people, like me, are capable of masking their nature to not suffer heavy prejudice in society, but we learn this in our teenage-years. As a child, and sometimes as an adult even, we'll have very "strange" behavior that manifests naturally, or when we're comfortable enough with people - but this behavior makes our uninformed parents and other adults disregard much of the qualities that comes along with many types of autism. Helaena, to me, is very relatable. Larys, on the other hand, or I'd say foot, became pretty hard to enjoy and relate, since his disability was highlighted as...that thing in Episode 9. Now, in Season 2, this feels like one of those scenes that should not exist. Larys 'speech to Aegon is so real and Strong (pun-intended) that his schtick with Alicent actually weakens how he perceives his world - yes, Alicent is the things Larys cannot attain, power, beauty, prestige...but this could be represented in a less...striking and on the face way. Larys is a schemer, and a broken person, in heart and body. His attraction to Alicent, her perfectness, in moral and shape, could very well come across as admiration that deranges to obsession or love - and it would be much more scarier if Alicent, and we, the viewers, had this anxiety knowing that Larys has this ethereal desire for the things the Queen represents, and is capable of *anything* to gain her favor. We got wank-wank feet-feet though.
@redadmiralofvalyria867
2 ай бұрын
Its actually also y i like Helaena I have BOTH adhd and asd u see, and as such how Helaena acts to most EVERYTHING is actually how i act/acted Hence why i like her, i almost see myself in her place
@mankyscotchgit4986
2 ай бұрын
It's also weird that the whole foot wank incident was never mentioned or referenced again, so it served no narrative purpose other than to shock the Burlington Bar crowd and make Larys appear gross (while specifically referencing his disability in a distasteful way). The same thing seems to have happened with the unexpected Rhaenyra/Mysaria kiss, it was purely for effect and has no narrative consequence, might never be referenced again. There are a lot of things about this show that just feel cheap and derivative of GoT's reputation for shock and unpredictability (which also became a millstone around the show's neck, to borrow from Larys).
@Katharina-rp7iq
2 ай бұрын
Me and my mother are both autistic. Our conversations often seem odd to others because one minute my mother talks about gardening for 15 minutes while I say various variations of 'mhmhm' while listening - followed by me telling her about whatever happened in the office or what I want to do that weekend or sth and ppl don't get that our conversation is about what we felt we needed to share because it's in our head that day.
@cokeandice248
2 ай бұрын
Big respect for putting your personal experience out into the world. Blessings to you.
@ruigerd
2 ай бұрын
It really adds an extra dimension to the video imo
@KyloRenRadio
2 ай бұрын
My husband has lived with Type 1 Diabetes since he was a child. Insulin was discovered in the early 1900's . As much as I love reading History & Fantasy, it's terrifying to me that his life would've be short & painful in our past, or a world like Westeros.
@ColHoganGer90
2 ай бұрын
I originally read the books before becoming disabled. The portrayal of Tyrion and Bran did resonate with me nonetheless, as everyone of us is somewhere down in his heart a broken thing - sometimes at least. Now, years later and in different health condition re-experiencing some of the crucial dialogue is downright heartwrenching.
@carlrood4457
2 ай бұрын
A note is that FDR also tended to hide/minimize his disability in public
@QuinnTheGM
2 ай бұрын
I realized that I should’ve used him as another example immediately after recording the audio.
@ineednochannelyoutube2651
2 ай бұрын
He didn't hide, but definitely minimized his disability. The fact that he survived polio was used to help support his image, but he also downplayed how much the polio cost him. JFK also had a plethora of medical conditions, one of which helped kill him. He had a back brace after a failed surgery for chronic back pain, due to this he was unable to duck down after the first bullet missed him, leading to the second hitting.
@samiai8905
2 ай бұрын
@@ineednochannelyoutube2651This also reminded me of how Elizabeth I also sought to minimize the after affects of polio with all the make up which makes the way Richard III protrayed during her era a lot more interesting.
@lordfreerealestate8302
10 сағат бұрын
It reminds me of the concept of "masking" which commonly describes people with autism but can also be applied to other illnesses like ADHD. You camoflauge to survive.
@Mictecacihuatl-198
2 ай бұрын
I’m autistic and I want to thank you so much for bringing this to attention! And seeing other people like you so open about their disability can give us all courage to be open about it too! My disability is invisible and sometimes people don’t believe me and just call me weird or crazy or too sensitive. That’s why it’s so good to see disability explored deeply in writing and pop culture, thank you!
@aegorbittersteel2154
2 ай бұрын
Larys the representation we all needed. Thank you for sharing something so personal about yourself.
@Anubiszz512zz
2 ай бұрын
Great video, not a topic I've heard people consider before which is odd given how much credit George gets for writing female characters. Honestly I'd love to see more videos in this style, mental disability, or specific case studies of each character. Tyrion of course, Aemon maybe, Bran, ect. There are many other characters with disabilities that aren't so front and center like Wylas Tyrell (I think that's how it's spelled), deaf Dick Follard, and Jacelyn Bywater. There's the House of Black and White trials where they purposefully cripple their priests to learn what can be learned from losing one's senses and abilities. Hell though less typically disabled there's Wyman Manderly who is obviously so obese it cripples him. All interesting case studies for exploration I'd say. Well done
@ak-skeleton-7195
2 ай бұрын
Immersion ruined I was picturing a huge bodybuilder like a Greek god with huge massive biceps with hair so beautiful and long to be behind the camera. But seriously I’m glad you were able to over come such an obstacle and tell us about your life. Thank you for all the vids too. This is why you are my favorite ASOIAF KZitemr
@benderB9
2 ай бұрын
great video. Larrys talking to Aegon about his birth and family was also one of my favorites so far. I think GRR Martin understands very well how the different conditions of hic characters affect their actions and surroundings. It really is a testament to not just his writing ability but also his empathy towards people that are not like him
@valentine316
2 ай бұрын
Great video. Larys’s scene with Aegon might be the best scene of the season so far.
@lilhonor5425
2 ай бұрын
This was a great video! I’ve found Larys an intriguing portrayal (minus that one scene) of a disabled character who is morally dubious. Your point about how his resentment for his family made me wish that we had seen more of that in season one. I do think the members of House Strong were a victim of season one having to cover so much ground and I wish we could have spent more time with them.
@babzm.1666
2 ай бұрын
I’ve been refreshing incessantly for this one. Very excited to hear your perspective and conclusions.
@xix-19
2 ай бұрын
Man, your channel is such a gift for all ASOIAF fans, thank you so much for making these videos!
@Mersault26
2 ай бұрын
Another notable disabled ruler was Claudius, the 4th Emperor of Rome. Martin cites the tv series, I, Claudius as an influence on ASOIAF. That series portrays Claudius, who has a limp, a stutter, head shaking, and partial deafness, as a very sympathic and intelligent man, who is consistently underestimated by his family as he devotes his life to writing histories. Eventually he becomes Emperor specifically because no one saw him as a threat so he was the last surviving male of his family after everyone else murdered eachother. And he then proceeded to be a far better emperor than his two immediate predeccesors. I see a lot of paralells with Tyrion in Claudius as far as interests and world view, and I think he informs Tyrion greatly.
@brianwings6908
2 ай бұрын
And married his niece who later killed him...
@RedRose-id4sd
2 ай бұрын
"when his remains were discovered in a parking lot"... That subtle phrasing killed me.
@lukaslambs5780
2 ай бұрын
Great video as always, and thank you for sharing your story with us. I’m glad you can walk well! I have a physical disability/defect but at least for mine it is something internal that people don’t see and it’s been managed and closely monitored since I was a baby. I’d love to see a video on mental disabilities in ASOIAF! George has created an awesome world where, much like our world, seeing value all people, including in the “downtrodden” or “rejects” is a good thing. I also like how that doesn’t mean every misfit/disabled/disadvantaged person is a perfect hero. They are just like all other people, with good and bad!
@blanket4763
2 ай бұрын
Three years into my English lit degree, and I have to say, this is one of the most well written essays I've ever, well, heard. Great job, I wish to write essays as strong some day.
@booplaboop5783
2 ай бұрын
This video was great and honestly a nice breath of fresh air. Larys doesn't get much coverage outside of his potential greenseer abilities, so having (near enough) a whole video about him is a nice change of pace. Also I'd love to see a video about ASOIAF characters with mental disabilities.
@Captain_Insano_nomercy
2 ай бұрын
I absolutely found myself relating to Larys in this scene, and I was surprised as much as I was hurt by that revelation. I too have a physical condition that unfortunately defined much of my life, and those deep wounds can often define much of our behavior and actions
@davi0121
2 ай бұрын
My disabilities have always been mental rather than physical, except for an awkward gait due to a combination of ASD and dyspraxia messing with my coordination. However, I do know several people, many with whom I'm close, who've watched HoTD or read ASOIAF and come away with very similar sentiments about GRRM's work and in some cases, how it's made them either feel better seeing their stuggles displayed so candidly and with respect, or has helped them explain to their loved ones to give them an idea of what living with physical disabilities is like. I admire your candor and bravery discussing your personal experiences and how you think that sort of experience has been handled, both in print and on screen. I've been watching your videos for a long time now, and so I deeply appreciate you sharing such a personal and vulnerable part of your life with us. Thank you, our illustrious Game Master, for all that you do.
@Tgsva352
2 ай бұрын
In an interview the actor of Lyonel Strong did mention that Larys mother died in childbirth and that Lyonel sees Larys as a shame and blames him for the death of his mother.
@thekopitekid1
2 ай бұрын
You’re absolutely smashing it out of the park lately. Glad I’ve recently found your channel
@jacobseed2123
2 ай бұрын
Very good video, I'm glad you mentioned that GRRM's characters don't fail or succeed due to their disability, I think this is one thing that modern media consistently does poorly, as in most shows/movies/books characters are completely defined by a disability and everything that they do is because of it
@vonnazareth8119
2 ай бұрын
One interesting tidbit about the bad scene, King Wilhelm II, like Larys, had a quite charged obsession with the disabled bodypart - in his case hands. Unfortunately I cant find the letters, but there is a really good behind the bastards episode aubout him Edit: "In one letter it's : "I have been dreaming about your dear soft, warm hands, I am awaiting with impatience the time when I can sit near you and kiss them but pray keep your promise you gave me always to give me alone the soft inside of your hand to kiss, but of course you keep this as a secret for yourself." In another letter, he tells her: "I have again dreamt about you, this time I was alone with you in your library when you stretched forth your arms and pulled me down. Then you took off your gloves and laid your hand gently on my lips for me to kiss it...I wish you would do the same when I am in Berlin alone with you in the evening."
@erickonami1
2 ай бұрын
Quinn, i'm not skipping over the fact that you got one of the best lego space police sets.
@QuinnTheGM
2 ай бұрын
Finally someone mentions this
@Alshamrani.A.M
2 ай бұрын
When you shared your personal experience and compared it to what .happened with Laris, especially when you mentioned that the pain is still there. It gave me another perspective, as if for the first time I was putting myself in Lares's place Great work. I have been watching you for two years now and I am sorry for what happened to you when you were a kid. I wish you all healthiness and wellness 🌹
@rinkalgupta478
2 ай бұрын
This by far the best video I have seen in a while hope you continue making such videos
@cyrusshay
2 ай бұрын
Please make that other video about the mental side. You did this so well that I’d love to see you talk about the other.
@amcc666
2 ай бұрын
Incredible video Quinn. My undergrad capstone project for my history major was a paper I wrote on historical memory, depictions in fiction, and perception of Richard III. Love to see the shoutout. The role of the Tudor dynasty becomes even more relevant when you remember Shakespeare is writing at the zenith of Tudor rule.
@StFido
2 ай бұрын
Definitely my favorite video of your's I've seen would love to see more in this style of delving into the more thematic or artistic elements rather than lore or theories.
@cloudbloom
2 ай бұрын
Just wanted to add that the character Glotka from Joe Abercrombie's First Law Trilogy is one of the best and most relatable disabled characters I've ever read. 25 years ago I had a major cancer surgery which took half of my jaw (teeth and all) and a large section of bone from my left leg. A few years later I was diagnosed with Crohn's disease and it has ravaged my life, a weird side effect was enamel erosion on my remaining teeth and I had to get 9 teeth pulled and have dentures now. Also my intestine exploded a year ago and I almost died, another major surgery saved my life. I'll cut the sob story short but needless to say while reading those books and hearing Glotka's internal dialogue on his constant pain and difficulties with having missing body parts really hit home. If you haven't read those novels I highly recommend them, I think it's good to have characters in fiction that aren't "normal" who suffer from physical ailments in a realistic way. Bernard Cornwell also wrote a great series of historical fiction about Vikings and there's a real life king in that story who is thought to have had Crohn's disease or something similar, and Cornwell does a pretty good job of depicting the affliction.
@yggdrasil2
2 ай бұрын
I find it interesting how the only chacter seemingly able to look through Larys' facade is Aemond, another disabled person, though on a different level.
@Lionstar16
2 ай бұрын
This was a really well-handled video and bless you for putting your own experience at the beginning - definitely a follow up video on mental disabilities would be great
@vikingthedude
2 ай бұрын
1:30 Aegon is a bed? I thought he was a horse!
@QuinnTheGM
2 ай бұрын
That’s Tyland
@hannothestupid2064
2 ай бұрын
@@QuinnTheGMit’s tyrek who is a horse do you even asoiaf
@JasonFink4rg05
2 ай бұрын
I has an acoustic neuroma in 2003 and nearly died from it afterward (infection.) They sawed my skull open, lasered the tumor, then stapled my head back together. I amd eaf in my right ear and have tinnitus in it. I struggled with balance issues for years and sometimes still do. Yet, I consider myself lucky (the alternative is death so ...) I am also a D&D5e GM and in my campaign I introduced what I called "the sacrifice & growth" dynamic. One PC lost their eye-sight and had to learn blind fighting, another had their arm ripped off and it was replaced by a semi-functional bronze arm while a third PC suffered at the hands of a vampire whose bite affected her soul. All three PCs changed drastically, the blind monk actually became _more_ confident, the barbarian with the bronze arm (stolen right from Dragonlance....) returned home and saved her people while the Tiefling who suffered the vampiric bite basically became a better person (she was kind of not cool before.) I like this video and I like the idea of how transformative these things can be, I was in my early 30s when I lost half my hearing and it certainly did change me over time, I hope in ways that are better. Thanks for the great content and keep it up.
@samiai8905
2 ай бұрын
Really loved this video. Diability is such an underrated aspect within the fandom despite its importance and I love how honest you were about it and put it's importance front and centre. If you ever do a video about mental disabilities I would be so interested in it since there is a lot to be said about the intersectionality of disabilities (for instance with Lollys whose treatment is abhhorent due to her sex and disability).
@TheNetherlandDwarf
2 ай бұрын
Glad to see someone discuss this. I was a few days away from making a proper account and making a video on this myself as a disabled person. And I'm certain I'm not the only one. I feel for all his attempts to be subversive to established tropes GRRM still plays into them to a degree that leaves me dissatisfied. Maybe it's just that I've seen this discussed in poetry, novels, comics, non fiction, even visual art. There's ya authors, sci fi authors... It's been touched on by so many genres now that it feels too simple to stay within tropes like neurodivergent and physically disabled individuals have magic powers, or have sexualities or motivations primarily driven by them in almost one dimensional ways. Even if his disability isn't why he's a bad guy, he's still a disabled bad guy, a spymaster with corrupt morals. This is what I'm getting at. I'm many genres we've moved on from this framework. At the same time, I understand that if your focus is on subverting the established tropes you will have to lean into them, and that let's GRRM and shows based on his work to explore those intersections between disability and discriminatory society. But frankly I haven't really seen any attempt to move beyond them in the show. What I have seen is better portrayals of characters who are disabled, or of neurodivergent behaviour. It's the characters and plot themselves which disappoint me. And yes the foot thing was something i immediately called it out when that episode aired. If they wanted it to be a power play they could have showed it in many ways. But they didn't.
@jonathantruman1799
2 ай бұрын
literally wrote an essay about this for an undergrad class haha
@samiai8905
2 ай бұрын
Ohhhh I wanna read this SO BADLY
@NickonStark
2 ай бұрын
Some of your best work, Quinn.
@billberndtson
2 ай бұрын
❤ ya, Quinn! Thanks for being open about yourself and your disability. Mine showed up dramatically in my early 30s and all I can say is that suffering builds character - or, characterS in the case of GMs like ourselves. Our outlooks are influenced by our inlooks and you have a wisdom beyond your years.
@emilymerkel4213
2 ай бұрын
I'm also physically disabled (it's a long story, but we don't have a cause, whatever I have is rare enough to not be named, and there's no real treatments), and the difference between a walking, working out, strong member of society with a job and everything vs a disabled, wheelchair user who cannot work is insane when it comes to how society sees me. I'm almost invisible. I imagine Larys and Tyrion often felt the same way, and I've always thought that both deliberately used that to their advantage. It's so powerful to have portrayals of disabled people using the stigma as a weapon.
@celestialcass
2 ай бұрын
This is a great video! I really have latched onto Larys and Helaena as I am both physically and developmentally disabled. Helaena constantly speaking truths and being ignored/invalidated/dismissed as a mystery is SO real as an Autistic person, and the having to sit out of big sporting events/long physical activities endeared me to Larys. I agree that the foot fetish put me off his character for a while, but season 2 Larys is SO interesting! I only hope we'll have much more scenes with those two in the future. You explained your points excellently and have earned a sub, my guy!
@savdixon1087
Ай бұрын
Absolutely love this! I've not seen any of your videos before but the title of this intrigued me because I wrote my undergrad dissertation on blindness in fantasy and had a big focus on asoiaf (aemon and Arya). I love the connection to Richard the third. I found larys' character so interesting while watching hotd and the speech in S2 was just amazing. Grrm's portrayal of disability is so complex and I love how you break it down in this ❤
@hollyhanna78
Ай бұрын
I have pretty severe scoliosis & had my first surgery 26 years ago. (I always appreciate a Richard III reference) I completely understand having to just learn to live with the new you, after the surgery or diagnosis etc. I also loved the way GRRM wrote characters with disabilities. He shows the quiet struggles & self doubt, but also the almost cocky strength & odd understanding beautifully. We power through, often screaming on the inside, but we power through. This was an excellent video. Truly. Thank you for sharing it with the world….
@SamButler22
2 ай бұрын
One that never really seemed to happen in the show, Jon's hand never heals the same after his first encounter with a wight. It never seemed to change his character, nor present any difficulties, so I'm not sure what to make of it. Then again, Jon's story presumably hasn't ended so perhaps it gives us clues about what's going to happen after his revival??
@kenchin77777
2 ай бұрын
The personal impact really put this video over the top for me. Bravo
@brianrunyon266
2 ай бұрын
Martin writes disabled characters so well. Can relate, being completely blind, and having a form of CP that mainly effects my legs.
@idap8034
2 ай бұрын
CP… Like Cerebral Palsy?
@rowangarel3417
2 ай бұрын
valar morghulis. Great video as always. Would love to see a continuation delving into the mental conditions that Characters live with in the world of ice and fire
@dfunkt2291
2 ай бұрын
As another fellow disabled person thank you for this most excellent content. I was born with both feet deformed due to shenanigans with the umbilical cord in utero. Didn't have a surgical plan to suit in the seventies, and no ideal surgeries post years of damage. TLDR life long chronic severe disabling pain and mobility issues is me. Not so much a GRRM thing, as a HotD thing, that I thought a bit incongruous, was regarding the use of milk of the poppy. For me, severe pain impacts my ability to think clearly, moreso than the pain relief I take to function... I'm trying to forgive the show's approach by assuming they use really big doses of the stuff in Westeros, like, enough to actually kill pain almost entirely and thus eff up the patient... I would have given young Aegon advice about minimising his milk of the poppy intake, to just enough to function for rehab etc... I can understand why the show took a simplistic blanket approach to the issue of pain relief though, and it really carries on from season one with Viserys' illness and suffering, so.... .... Yeah I dunno I'm gonna stop rambling now. Great video 😁
@masterplokoon8803
2 ай бұрын
Larys' speech to Aegon despite having second intentions was trully inspiring and almost made me root for Larys for a moment...the key word is almost, then I remembered all the crap he did in both the books and show and thought better not to root for such a person.😅
@nont18411
2 ай бұрын
People love to talk about the parallel between Daemon and Aemond that they overlook another parallel in the same episode. Larys manipulating a physically and emotionally vulnerable Aegon to join his cause to sabotage Aemond (this scene). Mysaria manipulating an emotionally vulnerable Rhaenyra to her will (that kiss scene).
@megan1785
2 ай бұрын
great vid! i also love that you have text on screen that goes a bit further than what you’re reading out loud - really good analysis :)
@shadow6024
2 ай бұрын
Great vid and a lot of respect to u. Always loved how George wrote about these things
@thelastgreyjoy8555
2 ай бұрын
Cersei losing a foot leads more too her losing her bond to jamie
@QuinnTheGM
2 ай бұрын
I wish I’d discussed that theory in my Winter is Coming on her
@thelastgreyjoy8555
2 ай бұрын
@@QuinnTheGM reminds me of this theory I had called the Lannister succession crisis were I think Willem Lannister will become a major character in winds and tyrek returns as aegon's warden of the west
@warlordofbritannia
2 ай бұрын
@@thelastgreyjoy8555 Tyrek won’t be horsing around come Dream.
@smith006L
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your perspective on this
@RoastedToasted0
2 ай бұрын
Good on you mate, respect from New Zealand. Great video as always too!
@dakotageiger6709
Ай бұрын
I also had tarsal coalition, only in my right foot though. Thank goodness that surgery exists!
@EnbyNomad
2 ай бұрын
Great vid, Loved the personal angle- it really solidified a lot of thoughts I'd had loosely in my head about the disability rep of westeros.
@ruthikareddy7695
2 ай бұрын
I’ve always greatly enjoyed the parallels of the Tyrells and the Lannisters. The Tyrells are the well-adjusted version of the Lannisters and in every way they are better off for it. Tywin despises Tyrion for his disability and that hatred rips the family apart. Willas Tyrell’s accident left him with a lame leg, but unlike Tyrion’s family who openly reviles him the Tyrells note that although he has a lame leg, he is skilled in other regards. Willas is capable of managing the reach in the absence of Mace and Olenna, which also leaves them free enough to dig into Kings Landing. His brothers who are great warriors do not seek to usurp his claim, nor does his family ever insinuate that he should not be entitled to be heir. The removal of Willas from the show always disappointed me because it shows how Tyrion’s own life and fate could have been different, not even if the ableist attitudes of Westeros as a whole were different, but had his own family chose to treat him with a measure of human dignity.
@sommer8337
2 ай бұрын
Great video! I would love to hear you dig more into this, as well as the mental stuff. Using specific scenes and details from each scene to convey your thoughts, etc. Thank you for doing this video! It definitely doesn’t get discussed enough and it should! Every ASOIAF fan should recognize how GRRM writes characters with disabilities and how those characters interact with their world, knowing themselves and making the most of what they’ve been given. Fascinating subject! Great job!
@jaythebookfiend1541
2 ай бұрын
Great video! I especially appreciated the comparisons & contrast between “born & made.” I’m sure I’m not alone when I say I’d absolutely watch a follow-up about GRRM’s writing and less visible disabilities & divergences!
@elsebaton4695
2 ай бұрын
one of my fav videos from you quinn, great job
@westcoastweird455
2 ай бұрын
Fantastic piece Quinn! I find that character of Larys to fast becoming one of my favourite bad guys this season.
@laurashortill8623
2 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for being vulnerable with the wide world. As you note, Being born disabled can be so different than starting out abled then losing an ability. Also, Being cured of a disability doesn’t mean you 100% lose that change in perspective the disability caused. You note this, and it’s true for the ASOIAF characters too. My hands started off fine, but in my were later very crippled for years. Imagine doing law school unable to write or type. That’s what I did. It was a huge blow. But it focused me. I knew I had to succeed in law. There aren’t many profession where dictating is not abnormal. Luckily, I can type now and even do some limited hand writing, but as a medieval or other premodern woman I’d be useless. No knitting sewing weaving embroidering gardening etc etc etc. I hope we see more exploration of this theme in your videos as well as the HBO shows. For example , Aemond losing an eye definitely changed him and probably not for the better. As the actor likes to say, Aemond lacks perspective. GRRM also explores loss, a little, with his female characters. Loss of hair is a big deal for a girl or woman, even if it does grow back, because it’s often a loss of beauty, and physical beauty is a kind of superpower , like strength is. Just because it grows back doesn’t mean you’re “back to normal.”
@grayscales1864
2 ай бұрын
Great video. I also wonder what my life would have been like 50 years ago when the treatments for my disabling condition didn’t exist. I’d be called a hunchback and an invalid and be taken care of by nuns or something. I love when creators include realistic and interesting disabled characters
@grayscales1864
2 ай бұрын
I have advanced stage severe ankylosing spondylitis (bamboo spine) and severe axial psoriatic arthritis. And AuDHD
@Inlandexile
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective through your own experience.
@CaptainNick-qe1vc
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely lovely video. It was enlightening to hear about these aspects of the show and books from someone who can relate so well to them and it truly shows how meaningful these stories can be. Keep up the good work, Quinn.
@ZegetaX1
2 ай бұрын
Great video glad the surgery worked I had back surgery as a boy obviously I couldn’t have a physical future but I’ve managed and like where I am in life
@leslieshE
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for addressing this topic! I would love a part ii on mental disabilities!
@kariem6998
2 ай бұрын
It is very interesting when you realize that all of alicent's children have a disability in some way, shape, or form: Aegon is severely burned and has a broken leg which has rendered him permanently crippled, Helaena appears to show signs of autism, and Aemond's left eye was cut out leaving him with a very limited visual awareness
@ellie6091
2 ай бұрын
Daemon tho
@GrimmDelightsDice
2 ай бұрын
@@ellie6091We don't know enough about Daeron to say he isn't also disabled!
@IsamotKol
2 ай бұрын
One of your best. Do a breakdown of the battle of the Bells. More joncon!
@GrimDoesMineCraft
2 ай бұрын
Great video Quinn, really insightful and the personal connection can’t have been easy to be open about. But I’ll be expecting a heavily community influenced theory about Aegon being Abed now…
@alfieingrouille1528
2 ай бұрын
My issues have always been more mental than physical
@kronosbach5263
2 ай бұрын
We all have our battles, I hope you survive on despite them.
@westcoastweird455
2 ай бұрын
The horrors persist, but so do you!
@alfieingrouille1528
2 ай бұрын
@@westcoastweird455 😂😂😂
@alfieingrouille1528
2 ай бұрын
@@kronosbach5263 😂😂😂
@dr3dg352
2 ай бұрын
George RR Martin is my favorite author as well! 😊 I'm happy you made this video; I also find Larys to be fascinating. He's very much a product of the family and larger civilization around him. Strong parallels to Tyrion, and in some ways he shows what Bran could have become had he given up his love in exchange for resentment. But I also understand that Bran wasn't born with his disability and acquired it later in life.
@blossomi.2824
2 ай бұрын
I’ve watched a couple of your videos but this structure is definitely my favorite! I think you should continue to create more in-depth videos and also even consider lengthening them as well! This is really great
@DutchVanDerLenin7609
Ай бұрын
George's writing of Stannis Baratheon is one of the most lifelike interpretations of someone living with Autism. The curt manner of speech, His grinding of his teeth when irritated, the difference in how he's perceived in comparison to his more extroverted brothers. The parallels to Stannis and my own were only solidified when i received my own diagnosis.
@phoenixbrickstop-motionmoc4542
2 ай бұрын
hey man, very good video would love a second video about the writing of persons morality
@eren__morwen5947
2 ай бұрын
Quinn you're spoiling us with so many videos. Can you imagine when Winds goons drop? I've enjoyed being a member of your community for so long, thank you. Do u have patreon?
@FupaDoncic
2 ай бұрын
People forget how common Maternal Death was. My Grandma died post Vietnam war when her resources were scarce.
@RiggidyNick
2 ай бұрын
Great video. Appreciated the personal, sincere perspective
@Arthur-lp1hx
2 ай бұрын
Any chance of you doing more videos on Euron? Keep up making great content 😀
@anarchrex2237
2 ай бұрын
Quinn lore implies the existence of Quinn lore theories
@Prawnsly
2 ай бұрын
Quinn was last seen ahorse.
@anarchrex2237
2 ай бұрын
@@Prawnsly😭😭😭😭
@The_Struggler_
2 ай бұрын
God bless you quinn I really love this channel and the content :)
@aarondemiri486
2 ай бұрын
A Lary's analysis video is always welcome.
@goShinigami
2 ай бұрын
Great video, though a little on the short side. As I enjoyed it very much I would have liked a little deeper dive into GRRM's writing, more examples, examining the characters, scenes and arcs the characters go through more in depth and how their original disability or disability they receive along the story affect their personality, actions etc. Also I cannot comment on this topic without bringing up Tyrion and how he deals with his disability. As pointed out, he is the proponent of accepting one's shortcomings and make it into something of a ressource, not a personality flaw but a trait or even a strength. As we see and learn across the books, this philosophy in general is great advice and really character defining both for Tyrion and to an extent the people he encounters and gives that wisdom to (mainly Jon). However, on multiple occasions, especially in the later books, we see how this philosophy of Tyrion also has its shadowside and maybe how Tyrion took it a little too far - how it is dangerous to form your self-esteem and general view of yourself through the perception of others. In some situations Tyrion becomes the monster others claim him to be, he's no longer wearing it like armor, he let the perception of others alter himself. It's more like Venom (I have only really seen Spiderman 3 so that's what I am basing this comparison on). You can "wear" the symbiote as armor and use it's power (for good), but it's a dangerous balancing act. If you let it consume you and welcome it into your person, it will take over and dictate your actions and steer you into a bad direction. Back to ASOIFA: Tyrion is sometimes wrong about his perception, he assumes others want or can only see him as the disability and what it implies, and rather than trying to fight it and prove others wrong, he rather induldges the image, acts out of spite and proves them right. His"I wish I were the monster you think I am" speech is the tip of this iceberg. Don't get me wrong when I say the next thing, I have the outmost respect for him and people that struggle with disabilites and have to face the harsh criticism and prejudices of the public: But Tyrion, at some point, gave up on being a better person, to overcome the image of the disabled, wicked demon monkey. People called him the imp long enough, and the fight seemed hopeless, so he truly became the imp. He wore it like armor but ultimately lost himself beneath the armor - he became the armor, this superficial, foreign image. An evil shadow of himself, cast by the society he was faced with.
@georgeblavo9755
2 ай бұрын
watching this within the first hour of its posting! Hello watchers from the future
@notdeadjustyet8136
2 ай бұрын
As a person with a slight limp from birth I'm grateful for this video and I absolutely agree. His portrayal of the disabled ppl is probs what I like the most about Martin's writing & I absolutely hate what hotd does with larys. I also have troubles with my right foot.
@trimreaper7947
2 ай бұрын
I love Larys. I was born with a left club foot. So I would have been crippled in ASOIAF world as well. Lucky for me I had surgery when I was 3 to pretty much correct it. Great character
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