"Did you ever hear of the tragedy of Asmodeus the fallen? I thought not, it's not a story your gods would tell you. It's a myth of creation. Asmodeus once known as Ahriman was an upholder of order, so knowledgeable and so powerful he could influence the chaotic void to create law He had such a knowledge of law that he could even keep at bay the demon hordes. Unfortunately he couldn't convince the gods to decide upon the center of creation and without their uplifting wings he fell into the lowest pits of the hells. Ironic he could uphold the law, but not himself"
@TheH8redd
6 ай бұрын
Always remember that Asmodeus is also called the Lord of Lies, so all the stories, myths and legends surrounding Asmodeus are probably all lies. Even what I just wrote here is mostlikely a lie. The only certainty we have about Asmodeus is that we don't truly know who he is, but even that is probably a lie...... Is he the embodiment of this paradox: I always lie? (If this statement is a lie, then I don't always lie and tell the truth sometimes, but if the statement is true, the statement is self defeatiing...)
@derpasaurus155
6 ай бұрын
@@TheH8redd are you telling me the archdevil himself would... LIE??!!😵🥴🤯
@TheH8redd
6 ай бұрын
@@derpasaurus155How can a paradox LIE? Explain that to me. ( Refering to the I always lie paradox).
@truthjustice6454
4 ай бұрын
Misinformation and Disinformation...😅
@vukasika
6 күн бұрын
Darth Plaguis loves this version of the story...
@sheldorleconcher8870
6 ай бұрын
The satanic panic was really annoying...our group had to change gaming locations a half dozen times because of some sort of outrage and crazy accusations of devil worship and whatnot. As a teenager back then, it always struck me as weird that the "adults" couldn't see it was all made up. It still seems weird. Good content, btw. Even after decades of playing and DMing, it was interesting and gave me ideas for my current infernally influenced campaign. Thanks!
@AndyMcGehee
5 ай бұрын
I still don’t know how my Dungeon Masters Guide survived the “purge of 1984” by my stepmother after I left home for college. I’d love to see the look on her face if she ever saw my copy of the Book of Vile Darkness.
@truthjustice6454
4 ай бұрын
You all gettin' Woke now?😅
@BeanLordClown
28 күн бұрын
What are you even on about@@truthjustice6454
@chipsalom
25 күн бұрын
The fact that adults could be so worried about kids really believing in such obviously fictional made up stuff has ever since caused me seriously cynicism about the legit level of belief of these Christian adults... Clearly some part of them was deliberately ignoring their instincts telling them they were believing bullshit, which is why they could be so worried and project onto kids playing an imagination game
@suy21
7 ай бұрын
Holy crap, one hour of Planescape content. Impressive, Wade 🎉👏
@professorgrimm4602
7 ай бұрын
I love your example of Jeff Bezos as a lawful evil character
@TheCoulsonlax
7 ай бұрын
All billionaires are lawful evil
@johnmobley9369
7 ай бұрын
It’s been a favorite of mine.
@gabrielrussell5531
7 ай бұрын
My preferred examples are Robert Moses and Henry Kissinger.
@StonedPriest
6 ай бұрын
It's fitting. The Bbeg of the campaign I've been running is a cross of Vandal Savage, and Bezos. He's a long lived hobgoblin general who retired and started a shipping empire in a Spartan-esque society.
@truthjustice6454
4 ай бұрын
I remember an amoral billionaire reference, not anyone specific. Time stamp?
@danielrowan4716
7 ай бұрын
Mr Allen - I’m a huge fan of Planar Lore and this was a concise yet wonderfully thorough treatment of The Nine Hells. Well done. Asmodeus was listed in the 1e AD&D Monster Manual as the Ruler of Hell. Additional treatments of the hierarchy of Hell was provided in Dragon Magazine #76 from August ‘83.
@thedeaderer8791
7 ай бұрын
😂 I always laugh when I think back to the Satanic panic. Imagine thinking something is a dark recruiting tool to fiannly bring the anti christ apocalypse and really it's just 5 nerds in a basement eating snacks making d**k jokes and pretending to blow stuff up
@NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi
3 ай бұрын
That’s what the Devil wants you to think
@caelinnis
7 ай бұрын
I will master the hells. I am The Master Baator
@jonstewart2233
6 ай бұрын
Finally, some one bringing proof of the true pronunciation.
@The_butler_did_it1194
4 ай бұрын
First time seeing your channel, I'm only seven minutes in and already subscribed. Awesome work! Super stocked to watch more of your dnd stuff.
@NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi
3 ай бұрын
Why is it comforting to listen to videos about the structure of Hell? Thanks for your hard work in compiling and performing.
@JosefDerKaiser
3 ай бұрын
Let's be honest though, the Satanic Panic creating the Tenari allowed for some of the best DnD deep lore with Tharizdun and the Obiryth.
@GravSh4rk
7 ай бұрын
Love me a long form lore video. Currently in a plane hopping DnD game so this info is valuable to not let my party TPK
@heru7182
7 ай бұрын
The grief I got as a GM pronouncing Drow like Crow, instead of Cow.
@mattstackhouse6292
7 ай бұрын
Great video. The abyss is the most obvious next choice.
@WadeAllen001
7 ай бұрын
Okay I've got one vote for Mount Celestia and one vote for the Abyss.
@D--FENS
7 ай бұрын
@@WadeAllen001This is the only request you'll receive for the Gray Wastes of Hades, so I'll leave it right here.
@goblinbxtch7540
4 ай бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 Adding a Mechanus vote into the mix, I actually have the least amount of notes about it lol
@tripNine1
7 ай бұрын
Crap. I was half asleep when I signed that apparently
@IPH-1212
3 күн бұрын
damn this is a great video, well explained, good pacing and flow, thank you for making this
@jakubus8906
7 ай бұрын
Your planescape videos are really good! Can't wait to see some more
@WadeAllen001
7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@truthjustice6454
4 ай бұрын
Entertaining and informative. Its important to establish that the Kytin in Memnos are actually not beholden to Mammon, and have their iwn Independent territory. Cenobites...
@TurboWulfe
3 ай бұрын
Lve these long form vids, keep on keeping on 😎🍻🤘
@destonlee2838
5 ай бұрын
The Satanic Panic is not over. Stay vigilant, have fun, refuse their judgement.
@jaxongolf
3 ай бұрын
Hey Wade 🙏 I'm back behind the DM's screen working on a 5e homebrew, blending canon with the idea that Garden in Avernus is a planar convergence with a realm of Mount Celestia, and I've been really inspired by your videos. Thank you very much!
@shaggyzor
4 ай бұрын
Just found this video in recommendation, subbed after hearing yer narration. Looking forward to more lore videos, love it!
@SonySteals
6 ай бұрын
Bezos roast 👌👌
@lutandomhlalase4416
7 ай бұрын
3:50-4:10 I just can't with you roasting a certain billionaire, I just fell out 😂😂😂
@corporeal5980
6 ай бұрын
This was a much better overview than most videos i have seen on the planes. I'd definitely watch more even if im not a Forgotten Realms fan.
@aha1126
2 күн бұрын
This is sick! I have been scouring the internet for books on the lore of the hells and this video was a really great summary of all the information I was hoping to gain. Awesome job!!
@WadeAllen001
2 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Though to be honest when I made this video I was still in the mindset of focusing almost entirely on 2nd edition. So there's definitely stuff I left out from future editions, like from _Fiendish Codex II: Tyrants of the Nine Hells._
@brentwalker9576
7 ай бұрын
My reconciliation of viewing other infinite layers (a quirk not unique to Baator) depends on the plane in question, but can be best described as “weather and planet gazing”. To a mortal, the description should feel uncanny, but the natives talk about it the way we talk about meteor showers, eclipses, and constellations. For some layers, the rest appear almost peacefully in the night sky, for others like rifts and tears in reality, and for other like an overlaid optical illusion, or shimmering like the aurora borealis. Embracing the weirdness and treating it as totes ordinary does a lot to let you keep each plane’s phenomenon feel right
@PhoenixFlame321
6 ай бұрын
30:05 My take on the limbo vs heresy distinction is that: Limbo is for souls that were virtuous but never had the opportunity to learn the gospel and enter the holy covenant with Christ. Christianity has this thing called "The Original Sin", a vague idea that a seed of evil lives within us thanks to the first sin committed on The Garden of Eden and that can only be purged through Jesus' sacrifice. Since the orthodox belief is that one can only enter paradise while completely and utterly free of sin, being a genuinely good person isn't enough, you must be a baptized and faithful Christian to enter heaven (A foul, manipulative tactic to force others to join their cult out of fear of damnation) Heresy on the other hand is reserved for those that DID learn of the gospel of the holy church, but had the audacity to disagree and have their own opinions. Anyone that believes in anything that deviates from the teachings of the orthodoxy is damned to suffer even more than those chilling up in the first circle. It is a common trait of cults to persecute and condemn those that were once part of it but dared to leave. There's also a third even worse level of punishment in Violence, the Seventh Circle. It is divided into three parts and the third part of ring 7 is for the sin of Blasphemy, for those who not only dared turn their back to the gospel, but also spoke out against it and God himself. Critics get to burn in blistering sand and under a constant rain of fire.
@mosom_
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this incredible video, when the episodes on The Abyss and Hades come out I will die happy
@Whichendup
3 ай бұрын
I have observed that you often bounce back and forth between editions and make allusions that all the lore is meant to be static, like during the Lord of the First explanation, but in fact there is a timeline of events that you are missing in your explanations. Zariel was the Lord of the First, then Bel got promoted to Lord of the First and Zariel his advisor, later on Bel lost favor with Asmodeus and he reinstalled Zariel as Lord of the First. All of those things happened in the lore. It's not the books or editions being contradictory, rather they happened at different eras. Before Zariel, Tiamat ruled the First layer. There's enough conjecture that we can assume even Graz'zt the Demon Lord, was once Lord of the First before he was corrupted by Chaos while on his mission in the Abyss, and after conquering three layers of the Abyss decided to stay to become a Demon Prince rather than go back to the Nine Hells hierarchy. In official D&D books it is stated Graz'zt was once an Archduke of Hell. Also stated: Asmodeus tasked Graz'zt with leading an army into the Abyss to retrieve a fragment of the heart of the Abyss, the shard of ultimate evil. Archdukes of Avernus typically are the ones who rule over the Dark Eight and the Devil army who fight in the Blood War. It's reasonable to assume that Graz'zt used to be Lord of the First. Probably even before Tiamat ruled the layer. In the lore Tiamat did not care for rulership of Avernus or being part of the Archdukes' plotting and politicking. So she gave up the title as Lord of the First, wanting to focus more of her energy on the Material Plane.
@WadeAllen001
3 ай бұрын
I will definitely grant that I didn't go into later edition stuff very much at all in this video and mostly talked about the Lords of the Nine as they exist in 2nd edition, but the differences in each edition often are (but not always) contradictions that are later smoothed out (or an attempt is made at smoothing them out) and retconned into a cohesive timeline. 4th edition provides lore about Graz'zt originally being a devil that was tasked with re-finding the Shard of Evil for Asmodeus (and 5th edition also mentions Graz'zt previously being an archduke), but 2nd edition and 3rd edition both have it that Graz'zt is the child of Pale Night, born a demon and not a devil. To accept the edition-spanning timeline is to retcon away the contradictions such as these, but I prefer in these cases to just view each edition as its own thing.
@mrl9418
6 ай бұрын
Me, a savage: B'Ah-Ah-tor
@thescandinavian8339
5 ай бұрын
Great vid One question.. what is the breakdown for the celestials... Or don't they have a breakdown like fiends?
@WadeAllen001
5 ай бұрын
They do! I've gone over it in my Guide to the Seven Heavens of Mount Celestia video. But basically it's archons = lawful good, guardinals = neutral good, eladrin = chaotic good, aasimon = any good.
@garymorris7472
7 ай бұрын
Just call it Hell, the only thing I hate about 2e is them getting scared and changing the names of Hell and the devils/demons
@WadeAllen001
7 ай бұрын
I agree, though I suppose the reason I call it Baator more often than I call it The Nine Hells is because D&D itself does. They reverted back to devils and demons, but Baator remains what they call it (or The Nine Hells of Baator).
@garymorris7472
7 ай бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 I'm subscribed by the way 😉
@joethepagan3297
5 ай бұрын
Heresy was not the disbelief in God, but not believing in teachings of the church. The followers of Docetism believed that Jesus was not the divine made flesh, but a purely divine being with a human shell. He did not suffer on the cross. Which lead one of the apostles writing a letter about followers of the church must believe in a God made flesh. Another example are the Cathars who believed a perfect god could not make an imperfect world. So an imperfect being, the Devil, made the world.
@NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi
3 ай бұрын
Heresy!
@charliebee5154
7 ай бұрын
Long form D&D lore that is well narrated? Automatic sub! 😁 Thank you.
@blairshort1098
7 ай бұрын
Who would voluntarily become a resident of Dis? Vogon - "My Identity papers, Visa, letter of introduction and public enquiry findings, in triplicate."
@Klavinoid
7 ай бұрын
Hell yea! Perfect timing. Your videos are becoming my primary source for Planescape information. Heres to many more.
@jaxongolf
4 ай бұрын
Great explanation of evil using the corporate analogy.
@red_geist9741
6 ай бұрын
Soul stealing content creator! 😡
@SpectrumHazard
7 ай бұрын
Hell yesssss hype I love the Planescape/Great Wheel Cosmology vids, so cool to hear all about it
@Sirfinchyyy
6 ай бұрын
Its worth mentioning that the larvae in 5e are basically currency and barely considered sentient.
@steved1135
7 ай бұрын
Nice work Wade. Takes a lot of research and time to put this all together.
@JanSobieski3rdSiegeDefiler
7 ай бұрын
Amazing videos, loved your take on everything. Hoping to see a video on The Abyss soon!
@gabrielrussell5531
7 ай бұрын
I feel like you should acknowledge the non-serpent origin Mo has in every edition but 2E.
@WadeAllen001
6 ай бұрын
Alright. I've gotten a few comments asking me to include more lore from other editions, so I'll be doing that from now on.
@neceon4586
7 ай бұрын
This is such a comprehensive video. Thank you so much!!!
@swindler1570
4 ай бұрын
I love your lore content. Any chance we could get an underdark video? Or specific cities, like Menzoberranzan?
@WadeAllen001
4 ай бұрын
That's a good idea. I haven't really done any non-Planescape stuff yet like that, but I should try it out. To be honest covering Faerun lore seems a little daunting because there's like 300 books on it. The Outer Planes have comparatively less source material to read through.
@swindler1570
4 ай бұрын
@WadeAllen001 I totally get that. If you wanted to cover all lore tie-ins, across all source material, for a given topic, that would seem daunting indeed. But, it's probably okay to miss some niche interactions or historical events here or there. No pressure, of course - cover what you're comfortable covering. I'm sure you'd do it justice, though; particularly if you chose a narrowed scope to begin with.
@chronochrome7837
2 ай бұрын
God, the absolute irony of the ad break I got going into the Maladomini section. I feel like Baelzabul just tried to strike a bargain.
@Abrin32
11 күн бұрын
I love cuirass on your list of awkward fantasy words. Yup I know that word for armor from a video game. I also recently heard a PhD medievalist pronounce it "queer ass".
@Toddobvious
4 ай бұрын
Good call on the “bay-eh-tor” solution, I think that’s the best choice. I think all of these pronunciations should be based on which one sounds best
@coureurdesbois6754
Ай бұрын
heresy is not the same as apostasy. To be a heretic, you must be a christian which dogma's deviated from the Church's. So, non-believers can't be Heretics per say, because to be a heretic, you must first be part of the church. If that makes any sense.
@ChrisGrahamkedzuel
7 ай бұрын
Love to see your take on Carceri.
@helloidharbl6753
3 ай бұрын
Glad you mentioned that. A LOT of stuff in the DnD texts is written in a way that suggests a non English speaker decided upon the words. And no, I don't consider ye olden tyme Englesh to be English.
@Pugiron
3 ай бұрын
The name is derived from the name "Ba'al" first meaning "lord" and latter bastardized into a demon name. Pronounced "Bah-All"
@3X3NTR1K
5 ай бұрын
Actually ininities can be different sizes! Some are infinitely bigger than others. Several times over. Don't think about it too much though. Or at all.
@jppitre
7 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! Running a Planescape game and your videos have been essential
@bighamerreis2058
4 ай бұрын
baator isn't pronouced as baetor because it isn't english. it sounds right with an open A in languages that have that, portuguese, spanish italian etc. but you're speaking english. so say it like it feels right
@dkhosh7380
6 ай бұрын
I pronounce baator the same way you'd pronounce baal like from the bible because it sounds right to me and is usually how youd pronounce a double A
@jasonhopper2130
7 ай бұрын
Dude. Malagard is her attempt to acheive Godhood swelled up and burst. Malbolge is a fetis wasteland of exploded hag guts. Her fingers became gigantic towers. Her ribs split and became the 2 mountain ranges that encircle the plane. Her skull swelled to enoumous Godlike portions and is the capitol of the plane and the palace where Glasya resides
@WadeAllen001
7 ай бұрын
Yeah that's some cool lore. Do you think I should include more lore from later editions in these videos?
@alvaro701
7 ай бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 I think it would be a very interesting sidenote
@Coopernicuss
6 ай бұрын
I always called bahTOR and BAHtezu 🤷♂️
@DerexWolfheart
2 ай бұрын
There are different intensities of infinity so you don't need to worry about the math in that regard. If there are twice as many infinite demons as devils than that just means in a given battle there will likely be twice as many demons compared to devils
@destonlee2838
5 ай бұрын
Well done. And I can't give you what doesn't exist. I'll see you in Cania!
@rickywarren567
4 ай бұрын
Fantastic video bro. Absolutely brilliant sir!👏👏👏
@justin.channels
7 ай бұрын
55:50 I like your note on pronouncing Malbolge. Think of the sound in the makeup/color rogue (but the thief) 😆 Great video, really.
@100iqgaming
6 ай бұрын
i really like the tenar'ri distinction from the oberyth and the other one, in my game baatezu will refer exclusively to petitioners also
@zsdmrtzmrde
2 ай бұрын
Dis city is 100% an ork city built by gobbos. Hey, gimmi my soul back!
@JFGraham26
7 ай бұрын
oh hell yeah, love your other two planescape videos
@WadeAllen001
7 ай бұрын
I've got four other ones. I only correct you in case you missed them and would like to watch them. There's the guide to the outer planes, guide to the inner planes, the factions of sigil and their philosophies, and the sects of the outer planes.
@JFGraham26
7 ай бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 I haven’t seen those yet. Sounds sick, will check them out. Thanks!
@cernunnos_lives
7 ай бұрын
Great God's Below.... I'm loving this episode. Thanks for your hard work brother.
@AnonymousAlcoholic772
2 ай бұрын
The nine hells are non-euclidean spaces. Thats the only way any of this makes sense space wise.
@chuvarova6052
4 ай бұрын
I loved this video so much. The lore, rules, and history are layed out nearly perfectly and concisely. The only thing I wish was talked about more was Malbolge and what happened to Malagard when Glasya took it over. The whole layer is covered in a bloated and fat Malagard's remains after she imploded. Her bones, hair, skin, blood, etc covers the cliffs and Glasya makes her home out of her huge skull. Other inhabitants carve out dwellings from her bones and skin and stuff. Also, a lot of cool art and new 5e lore for all of the Hells was included in Chains of Asmodeus and from the info provided from this video, I assume you aren't aware or chose to omit what was in that book. Not saying that as a bad thing necessarily since this is mostly following 2nd edition by default but I would have really loved the comprehensiveness of the lore of this video to go from 95% to 100%. Either way, superb video!!
@WadeAllen001
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! I've gotten feedback from a few people that I should include more lore from later editions, so I've started doing that.
@joaoluizcamacho2733
6 ай бұрын
Pleaseee make one about Thanatos, the layer of Orcus in the abiss
@chara2038
7 ай бұрын
I always pronouced Bah-thor XD
@connorb7234
7 ай бұрын
Loved your outer planes video, and this one was awesome too 😊 my personal favorite outer realm is elysium!
@nathanaelthomas9243
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Very well done 👍🏻
@Craig_Tucker48
7 ай бұрын
Love your videos on the planes. They are the only ones you make that interest me but damn they are good ❤️ Though I think you mixed up the layer of Malbulge with the plane of Gehenna.
@WadeAllen001
7 ай бұрын
Thanks! Malbolge and Gehenna do have some similarities, but I was taking most of what I said right out of the Planes of Law: Baator book. And many things were changed about Malbolge in later editions of D&D, so that might be contributing to the seeming mixup as well.
@asdfwerqewsd
15 күн бұрын
So are the gods residing within the layers weaker than the archdevils? I thought gods were supposed to be more powerful than archdevils - who are more like demigods. Why don't they just take the layer over?
@WadeAllen001
15 күн бұрын
The archdevils are certainly supposed to be less powerful than gods. But why don't the gods take over the layers? That's a good question. The short answer is I have no idea, and I'm not sure D&D itself has thought that through too much either. But I'll tell you my thoughts and the possible answers I've come up with. Honestly, in my mind the lords of the nine (and demon lords and celestial hebdomad, etc) are god-tier in power, if not outright gods. I mean, plenty of people do worship each of the lords of the nine, so why wouldn't they be gods? So that's one answer you could go with, they either are gods or are god-tier in power. Another answer is that perhaps the gods aren't powerful enough to do that. A lot of gods aren't that powerful in D&D anyway. Sure they're certainly more powerful than mortals, but Ao's the only one who seems deserving of the title of god to me. So perhaps a god could kill a lord of the nine in one on one combat, but each lord of the nine has essentially an infinite army of devils at their command. I would say that the gods are only as powerful as the amount of worshippers they have, and their realms are the manifestation of that power. So perhaps in theory a god could take over a whole layer, but that would require expanding their realm throughout the whole layer by gaining more worshippers. Alternatively, they could leave their realm and try to take over the layer by force, but then what's to stop another god or powerful entity from just doing the same thing and wresting control from them. Perhaps gods prefer to stay in their realms because it's the only place where they have full control. And since realms operate on different rules and look entirely different to the layers they're in, perhaps from a god's perspective their realm isn't *in* the layer at all, but rather just next to it, so they don't feel like they're under the control of a being less powerful than them (because really, they're not. Mammon has no control over the gods that reside in Minauros for example. Though Tiamat is or was under the control of Asmodeus, but Asmodeus is at least a greater god). Another answer lies in the fabled and non-canonical Ordial plane. Where the Astral Plane is the plane of thought, and the Ethereal Plane is the plane of unformed matter, the Ordial Plane is the plane of proof, and of spirit. It is where the true essences of the gods reside. So going with that idea, perhaps the realms these gods keep in the Outer Planes are just intended as permanent homes for the mortals that provided them their godhood, but the gods themselves actually live in the Ordial, and so feel little to no desire to expand their domains in the Outer Planes.
@ghostoftanelorn9928
6 ай бұрын
I just use a longer aah sound, and I also roll the the r on baah-tor̃
@mattsmall5038
6 ай бұрын
Fun bact, Baatar is Mongolian for hero
@Safier_Poochy
7 ай бұрын
The next video should about the cosmology counterpart. The seven heaven of Mount Celestia. First the Hell and than the heaven.
@WadeAllen001
7 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@shirak8
4 ай бұрын
Will this video make me a Master of Baator?
@xgoldies
7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! You are appreciated🙏🏼
@SigfridSWE
5 ай бұрын
Bg3 comment; Raphaels lord/leige is mephistopheles. He says that in one of the endings, where he notes that even his "father mephistopheles...". Does that mean that Raphael probably are a Duke/Arch-Devil under his father Mephistopheles? Or... is he one of the Damned 8 or... is he a Combion... most people seam to think he is a Cambion... but it doesn't fit in my opinion... ayway.... any thoughts people?
@WadeAllen001
5 ай бұрын
I figured he was a duke, just not an archduke like Mephistopheles is.
@CorinShadowblayde
4 күн бұрын
What is the source for Takhisis? The DL novels are pretty clear she is locked in the Abyss.
@WadeAllen001
4 күн бұрын
Page 165 of _On Hallowed Ground._ It wouldn't be the first time that D&D sources contradict each other, though generally speaking I tend to view rule/supplement/adventure/setting books as more canonical than novels.
@truthjustice6454
4 ай бұрын
All those channeling their 'imner devil' through eole play to evangelize moral ambiguity/amorality are surely deserving of the present Wokeness in the real world 'west' 😅
@NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi
3 ай бұрын
I think D&D was focused on the characters being good and fighting evil - like Orcs and Goblins and devils. Even later in AD&D evil characters like assassins were evil - and it wasn’t woke - but the new players seem to be getting away from that
@kaptenteo
7 ай бұрын
Yay!
@AbstractDuality
7 ай бұрын
Subscribed. I want more.
@hasde_fo
7 ай бұрын
it just amazing piece of work, thank you Wade! though...please return my soul...
@WadeAllen001
7 ай бұрын
It's mine now.
@HoobtheNoob
5 ай бұрын
This is amazing thank you!
@firstnamelastname7244
5 ай бұрын
28:38 This doesn't really make any sense to me. Why would someone who doesn't believe in an afterlife go specifically to the lowest layer of the plane of Lawful Evil, regardless of who they were in life?
@WadeAllen001
5 ай бұрын
That's just how the universe works I guess. Or perhaps Asmodeus has done some sort of magic that makes it so. The "why" isn't really explained.
@Subtle-will
2 ай бұрын
I was thinking the planes spiral along a cone, so looking up you can see the planes coming down the sides. Meaning the lower you go the more you see looking up into the lighter layers
@WadeAllen001
2 ай бұрын
Yeah it is described in a few places like that, where you get a more and more complete view of the plane the lower you go. But then if you think about that how does that work? Because if the layer above you is a larger slice of the cone, then it would take up all of the sky, so how would you see the layers further above the one directly above you? And wouldn't you just see the underside of the layers anyway? Of course I guess the answer is just that shit don't make sense in the Outer Planes.
@RevocerGM
7 ай бұрын
here's my soul: with thanks
@jasonrodarte2681
3 ай бұрын
Why use Paizo art?
@100iqgaming
6 ай бұрын
nah the fact that in dnd the styx gets rid of your memories kinda annoys me, its the liethe (sorry if bad spelling i get my mythology from audiobooks) that does that bro
@WadeAllen001
6 ай бұрын
It is a bit weird. The river Lethe also exists in D&D; it's mentioned once or twice, so I don't know why the Styx makes you forget and not Lethe.
@sldjflaskjfdalksjfla
6 ай бұрын
*unendlich und in sich selbst übergehend ...
@ElPayasoMalo
2 ай бұрын
I was surprised you didn't mention God Street in Dis.
@WadeAllen001
2 ай бұрын
Probably because I mostly used 2e source material for this video. I've been using later edition lore a lot more in my more recent videos though.
@danj-g6p
6 ай бұрын
I feel like it may have help clarified in the beginning. How they are corrupted soldiers, the whole good vs evil war going into the order vs chaos that actually led to it. But I get that is a rabbit hole.
@dagonslayer51
6 ай бұрын
You should check out the DM's Guild book "Chains of Asmodeus". It is a fascinating outlook into the nine hells
@Nonamearisto
6 ай бұрын
49:27 Well, that makes Karlach's "this had better be sexy or violent" comment into new persepective.
@benward4585
2 ай бұрын
nope
@ElPayasoMalo
2 ай бұрын
Asmodeus doesn't become a god until Fourth Edition said he absorbed the divine essence of Azuth, from what I remember.
@WadeAllen001
2 ай бұрын
The origin story of Asmodeus being the cosmic serpent god Ahriman is from 2e (Guide to Hell). You're right though that according to other lore he wasn't a god until the Spellplague.
@ElPayasoMalo
2 ай бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 I knew about that origin story. There's like three different origin stories from what I remember. Multiple choice past!
@djokealtena2538
7 ай бұрын
It is a double aa it should be an aah sound not eah. Logically.
@WadeAllen001
7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately logic hardly factors into language. Pronunciations of spellings simply aren't consistent. Quaalude is "ay," aardvark is "ah," and the people who invented Baator thought it should be "ay-AH."
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