5:30 - The most underrated part of _any_ cable soldering is slipping on the plug housing *_before_* soldering. If you forget this, you can start all over.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
I certainly learned that one the hard way!
@lukespread
Жыл бұрын
Been there, done that x 10, dammit.
@xanataph
Жыл бұрын
@@FrankOlsonTwins It's alright if you forget to slip on the casing and insulation sleeve when you do the *first* end. Really sucks if it's the second end! Although if it's just the insulation you've forgotten a bit of lekky tape does the trick! lol
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Lol, it still gets me once in a while! I've started using liquid tape, which isn't very pretty, but it does hold quite well. It requires 2 coats, which is annoying.
@MarcBeland
Жыл бұрын
I've been making my own cables for years, and your ideas for separating the braid in two and using a pedal to hold it steady while soldering have now become part of my process. THANKS!!!!
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad it helps!
@sonoffantm
Жыл бұрын
Agreed !! I have been making & repairing cables for decades and always thought I was wise using a small vise to hold the plugs while soldering . Trying very carefully to not over tighten the jaws of the vise & squash the hollow plug shaft. (Which has happened more than once when I was in too much of a hurry.) Your usage of a pedal input jack is so simple, brilliant and time saving ! The countless hours of locating , setting up & putting away the vise over the years will now be a thing of the past. Thank you for making my day !
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
I'll never go back to the old way!
@winnaingtun9026
Жыл бұрын
😮😮😮😮❤
@ranradd
Жыл бұрын
Wow, same here! Dog learns new tricks.
@drumbyte
6 ай бұрын
pre-soldering the ground wires is a brilliant idea to add extra strength to the unit.
@FrankOlsonTwins
6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Bristoll170
Жыл бұрын
Well, I've been in the industry for 40+ years. Your soldering is fine. But the centre conductor should be pushed up from under the tip terminal. Not the top. It keeps the coax as straight as possible, and there's no lump to negotiate with the raised center insulation for thesleve. If trimmed and formed correctly, the tinned earth brade will swing down and sit where it should 👍
@Richard.Andersson
4 жыл бұрын
I work as an engineer at a company that produced cables, and I think this is a great video for good DIY connector attachment! Filling/molding the connector housing with glue/plastic for better pull and bend protection is the only thing missing, but hard to perform at home. One comment regarding the semiconductive layer: It's main purpose is to remove triboelectric noise due to friction between the braid and the insulation (think static electricity when rubbing a balloon against your hair). I guess it also helps a little with electrostatic shielding at low frequencies, but I'm not sure how efficient it would be, and it definitely would not help against magnetic fields.
@FrankOlsonTwins
4 жыл бұрын
I'll take that compliment, thank you! That's interesting about the rubberized semiconductive layer. I've experienced an audible static pop with some random cables by stepping on them(more noticeable on mic cables). I'd be interested to read more on the subject. Cable science is complex so I try to buy cable by a company who has a good grasp on it! Regarding the plastic filler- I prefer not to fill the gap because I feel it make the cable ends basically un-repairable. Now, there's always an argument to be made: the plugs are only $2 a piece(plus shipping!) and plug joint does become kind of indestructible, BUT if you need to fix your cable fast, or modify the cable for some reason, (what if it gets pinched or cut near one end)that plug end is pretty much done for and it's going in the garbage. I don't remember if I mention it in the video, but my main cables are those which I've made from these exact parts and I've never had a failure. This includes a few years of non-stop use, heavy gigging and even cross country touring. But, I don't abuse them, I don't pull on the cable to unplug, and I try to put them away after use. Do you think E6000 would be a suitable filler, for those who want to fill plug cavities? Any recommendations? Thanks again!
@Richard.Andersson
4 жыл бұрын
@@FrankOlsonTwins Signal cables with semiconductive layers are usually referred to as "low-noise cables" for sensitive industrial and measurement applications (when referring to triboelectric noise). Within the field of audio applications you can't really trust anyone due to all the subjective naming and placebo effects. Low-noise cables typically have only one SC layer between screen and insulation, super-low-noise or ultra-low-noise cables have an additional SC layer between conductor and insulation. However this would be overkill for audio applications, they are more for super sensitive measurements. Regarding fillers I agree that for repairability it's better to go without it, I would do the same for DIY. At work make lots of stuff for military, nuclear, offshore, and aerospace applications, where a failed connector could be very serious, hence it is designed for longest lifetime with less consideration for the price. We try to use the exact same material as the jacket itself to get a seamless joint. This require machines that can melt and inject the plastic/rubber, which is hard to do at home. I am not sure how good E6000 is against bending over time, also not sure about electrical properties (as you don't want leakage between screen and conductor).
@FrankOlsonTwins
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard for the info! One interesting phenomenon I learned about low-noise cables vs. regular(no SC layer) instrument cable: I found that during some unscientific listening tests, that cables with better shielding also attenuated the tone a bit more in the high end. The low-noise cables have a nice bass and midrange detail, but were slightly darker sounding overall. The "regular" cable retained more high end, but also allowed more buzzing to enter into the signal. That's when I was sold on high quality, low-noise cable. I started reading on the subject and learned about cable capacitance and how it relates to cable length in unbalanced cables. I find that with high quality cable, I can get up to about 20 feet without a noticeable drop in tone. That's pushing it, though.
@Richard.Andersson
4 жыл бұрын
@@FrankOlsonTwins Interesting that you could hear the difference. For very low level signal, such as from a mic, capacitance can be quite important. The SC layer do increase capacitance of the cable slightly, because with just a braid you have some air between it and the insulation, which has low permittivity. While the SC layer has perfect 360 degree contact with the insulation. Low-noise cables are also not good for high frequencies because the SC layer adds attenuation. But this is normally in the MHz range, so not audiable. But I have not made any serious measurements in the audio range to say what could be the dominant factor.
@nvrudd
4 жыл бұрын
@@Richard.Andersson here's a potentially dumb question - could hot glue work as a sufficient filler?
@rd40082
24 күн бұрын
The idea of using a pedal as support for work is great. Thanks
@FrankOlsonTwins
14 күн бұрын
Glad it helps!
@TheFRiNgEguitars
Жыл бұрын
The very best soldering tutorial I have seen, forget most of the others.. Notice the pre-heat is less than 1 second? The operation happens fast, beautiful solder flow and fillet, no melted insulation. The tip intersects the work and the solder, the flow of the solder aids in heat transfer into the work (not as much the pre-heat) The solder flows AWAY from the tip.. the opposite of what others TRY to teach, incorrectly, that it flows to the heat. This is clean work!
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for saying so! As you know, the subtleties of soldering are really in the details. I try to teach a methodical approach, I hope it helps some folks! Thanks for checking out the vid!
@69voxbeetle
2 жыл бұрын
I don't often subscribe after watching ONE video.... This is one of the best instructional ones I have seen in Long, Long time. The idea of using a larger pedal to hold your work.... Genius. 👍
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, hope it was helpful!
@JohnA000
Жыл бұрын
I made my own cables back in the mid 1970's. I still have them. They still work perfectly. None have failed yet. I used switchcraft plugs and belden cable.
@chenks54
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Whilst I generally know how to solder a jack plug onto a cable, and get the same results as you do, I have learnt a couple of great ideas from watching this. Firstly, the idea of prizing the wires into two separate groups and then twisting them together before soldering is a great idea. Also pushing the jack plug into an effect pedal to hold it while soldering is such a great idea, and so simple. I have a cheap pedal that's now dead and doesn't work - I can use that! I nearly overlooked this video, thinking to myself "I know how to solder jack plugs onto cables!". I'm rather glad now that I didn't over look this video -goes to show, one can always find something new and helpful, even though the video's covered what you already think you know! So .. thank you for this video, I look forward to watching more of your videos.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the vid and I'm glad it helped! I must admit, after I figured out the pedal trick, I haven't looked back. Nothing is quite as convenient!
@NackDSP
Жыл бұрын
It is also good to add something to keep the cable from bending sharply right at the connector. I like using heat shrink tubing and putting a nylon cable tie in the mix as a strain relief for the first inch or so of cable to avoid a sharp bend when pulled at 90 degrees. Nice video. The last cable was best with a bit more insulated cable beyond the crimp.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Sure, a bit of strain relief never hurts!
@mdurg
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. I'll be making some shorter cables this weekend and this helps. The plugging into a pedal tip is priceless!
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
Cool, hope it helps. Good luck!
@oskarwroniewicz
3 жыл бұрын
That's easily one of the most helpful, informative and to the point videos I've seen. Thank you so much
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Oscar! Glad it helped!
@adamprieto
4 жыл бұрын
Best video on making your own Instrument cable. Wish I found this before screwing up my first two cables.
@FrankOlsonTwins
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Just cut off the ends and resolder!!
@FursAndMasksMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Along with electric kettles and Sudofed Sinus Relief spray, these sorts of concise how-to videos are among my top reasons for being alive in the modern age.
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Add coffee maker to that list and I'm right there with you!
@franzsapka
Жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial and stellar soldering skills!
@rareform6747
Жыл бұрын
55 years in the guitar world , best cables are George L's "super easy and never a problem " Nice Post 💫
@anlaik
Жыл бұрын
I always thought how the shielding braid is too thick but never thought of clipping it like this, great idea! I wouldn't recommend plugging in any jacks in any equipment while soldering, especially to beginners, because jacks can get extremely hot while soldering and it may damage the insides of the pedal or whatever you're plugging it into. Instead, you can get some cheap wood clamps or just get a stand for soldering.
@paullelys161
Жыл бұрын
If soldered correctly I doubt it would damage anything in the socket but to be safe probably a good idea.
@jambeydixon7427
9 ай бұрын
Great! It's worth this extra time to keep them from crackling and failing
@FrankOlsonTwins
9 ай бұрын
I haven't had one of these fail me yet!
@DustinWatts
11 ай бұрын
Nicely done! You forgot 1 step though, and that is cleaning the flux off. It looks much nicer but more important, flux speeds up corrosion, so getting rid of it actually has a function other then aesthetics :) And as said below in the comments, tinning the signal wire helps a lot to get it in the hole, off course only if you don't over-tin the wire (otherwise it won't fit through anymore).
@2cool4u24
4 жыл бұрын
Another step you could add is tinning the twisted wires before soldering the connections. Makes solder flow in better. But the solder looks really nice and shiny which is a good sign
@FrankOlsonTwins
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I sometimes tin wires to save time, especially for point to point turret or eyelet work. For situations that where I wrap the wire around something, I prefer not to tin. I think you're right, though. Tinning these wires might have made the connections flow more quickly.
@boppin_bennie
2 жыл бұрын
Also lightly tinning the contact point of the ground connection as well as twisted wires, since the tip is going into a hole you wouldn't want to tin that on this type 1/4 plug but some 1/4 plugs don't have a hole for the tip wire, in that case I'd also pre-tin the tip (hot) connection and wire.
@TheFRiNgEguitars
Жыл бұрын
Good point, yes, however small work such as this does not require tinning. The solder flows out quickly.. no melted insulation, no oxidized nor cold solder.
@tookitogo
Жыл бұрын
@@FrankOlsonTwins “proper” procedure in electronics technician training is to tin the wire, then use round-nose pliers to dress it into whatever shape you need, typically a j-hook or a flat S bend (like you would use here). Tinning has two main advantages: reducing the time it takes to perform the final joint, and ensuring that you don’t have any stray strands anywhere. Especially with smaller connectors, the latter becomes essential, as the eyelets (or other openings for the wire) get smaller. But I completely agree: great work overall. Most soldering tutorials on KZitem are, frankly, examples of what _not_ to do. This is a welcome exception!
@effdpaul1815
10 ай бұрын
Well done video! Name brand instrument and guitar speaker cables are so expensive, you'd expect the quality of the terminal connectors to be as good as the cable they use ... but as you have shown, they are not! The one thing you could have emphasized was how important having a quality soldering iron is ... and using a high quality rosin solder.
@FrankOlsonTwins
10 ай бұрын
Thanks! It's true, when attempting any electronics project, there are so many things to consider before you even work on your project at hand! Experience continues to be the best teacher...!
@nyrbsamoht
5 жыл бұрын
thankyou this is the best advice ive found for diy cables without mucking around especially liked the tips using a a female jack to stabilise it for soldering. also inserting the conductor in how you did and cutting half the shield off for the ground. that seems like it would make it not bulge so much
@FrankOlsonTwins
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've stopped buying cables because I'm usually disappointed in the low quality materials or poor assembly. Glad this video helps!
@Black_Dome
Жыл бұрын
veeeery helpful, soldered my first jack cable today
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@rawdelicious
6 ай бұрын
Best and most meticulous method and so well documented too!
@FrankOlsonTwins
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
@paulinedavis8734
Жыл бұрын
THANKS....brilliant & the Guitar Pedal TIP as a holder 👍 Just bought a soldering iron to fix two older cables. Never thought about making my own PREMIUM cables.
@yekoo
Жыл бұрын
best cable i've ever seen.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@32herz
Жыл бұрын
Everything in this video is correct. 🙏
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the vid!
@virgyltracey8454
Жыл бұрын
VERY USEFUL AND ENLIGHTENING THNXS
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, hope it helps!
@mysticphilosopher7777
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I just made 2 cables thanks to you. Klotz la grange wire, right angle connectors. They sound great!
@FrankOlsonTwins
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Feels great, huh? The feeling only deepens the longer you own the cables! 🔧❤🎸
@stevefiorito5379
Жыл бұрын
Your cable plug holder?? Brilliant!
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I can't go back to not using one during this type of soldering!
@kristohanonkantakaron89
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing tips, God bless always👍🙏
@xanataph
Жыл бұрын
I had a lead that I used for my "recording" lead, as it was short but not too short. It had fully moulded connectors. One end got dodgy so I cut it off and soldered on a nice vintage jack plug. Worked for a while the it became dicey again. Cut the other end off and soldered on the "top of the range" jack plug from the local electronics chain, which was essentially a cheap copy of the older design of Neutrik jack. This worked for a while before becoming dicey again. Re-ended one of the connectors and it worked for a whole before once again becoming dicey and somehow intermittent. Turned out to be the cable itself was so poor that it would break internally, and was nothing to do with the jacks. Took both of the jacks off, soldered them on to an old piece of Musiflex mike cable of similar length and it's been great for years. The question is, this lead has had two new jacks and one new cable...is it the same lead anymore? lol
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Lol..well, it sounds like the spirit of that lead is still alive, even if the cable bowed out early. I guess you have an "evolved" lead now! That is the beauty of good connectors, they can last through many cable changes!
@michaeltaylors2456
Жыл бұрын
The best video on this subject
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@marcelosanches1335
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I suffered for many years doing the wrong thing 😃
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
The more you make, the better you get!
@jfinchiva
5 жыл бұрын
OMG - using a pedal to hold the plug while soldering! Genius idea. Why have I never thought of that?
@FrankOlsonTwins
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I should really get one of those "third hand" clamping devices too!
@jerund
4 жыл бұрын
A 2x4 with a 1/4 inch hole drilled into it works just as well, and you don't have to worry about overheating the pedal jack.
@Richard.Andersson
4 жыл бұрын
@@jerund Usually the pedal Jack is soldered directly to something that would remove the heat, hence it should not be an issue. But good to keep in mind. On the other hand, having metal contact to the plug during soldering actually helps to not overheat the insulation between the ring and tip inside the plug, so it has some benefits as well.
@ChesterRodriguez
3 жыл бұрын
Agree. Brilliant idea.
@steveaharmadianto3712
3 жыл бұрын
Isnt that hot?
@MikeyMack303
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent video.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@corissimo
2 жыл бұрын
Best video ever on this.
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, hope it helps!
@Leandro-np1uk
Жыл бұрын
antes que nada es recomendable pasarle una lija a la ficha en donde se va a soldar para que agarre bien el estaño.
@JulesFox
11 ай бұрын
Very pro presentation and skills. I'd never seethe wooden tool used before - so a great tip. That and the use of the guitar pedal! So many great points you made in this video , well done.
@FrankOlsonTwins
11 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad it was helpful! The wood pick might not be necessary with other types of cable, but Canare has tight, braided shielding. There's no other good way(that I'm aware of) to get the wires apart without breaking them!
@imark7777777
Жыл бұрын
I've seen the inner conductor insulation pull back due to cable mess use as well.
@MGeofire
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial, accurate information and top-notch videography.
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@michaelmountrakis9386
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!!! To the last detail!!!!!!
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🎸🔧
@genipaisley4340
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks so much for making this video.
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JuanRodriguez-jl6ft
Жыл бұрын
Great instructions 👍
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Francois15031967
Жыл бұрын
Use neutrik NP2X and NP2RX connectors, they're hands down the best ones.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
New video up today with NP2X!
@robertsolomons7012
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video bro first time i did it correct thanks
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
Great 👍
@anxose
Жыл бұрын
muy buena explicación! enhorabuena!..es la mejor manera de q los jacks duren mucho👍👍👍
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Gracias!
@ShivashishMusicStudio
3 жыл бұрын
Putting the plug into pedal for soldering is a cleaver idea thanx 🙏
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
Hope it helps!
@MBA1111
2 жыл бұрын
real pro. just did it the right way. tumbs up
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad it helped!
@Billkwando
Жыл бұрын
That was awesome!!!! I even enjoyed the peppy chiptune-type music. You should be proud that you made an excellent tutorial with no extra fluff, very clearly presented.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! That was exactly the goal, I'm glad it came across!
@Carehuea
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frank. Concise and incredibly helpful...
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
You are quite welcome, glad it helps!
@S2T1A5NE
Жыл бұрын
Damn im gonna make my own now!
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Do it, it's totally worth while!
@geluix69
Жыл бұрын
One detail many overlook, don’t forget to slide on the connector housing before you install the connector.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
x100!!
@geluix69
Жыл бұрын
@@FrankOlsonTwins ask me how I know 😏 so annoying when it happens.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Lol, I still learn this lesson the hard way from time to time...
@EmanuelAramayo1
Жыл бұрын
Hot glue for isolating the cables inside the cover and make a heavy duty & anti- stomp connector. It works even whit cheap connectors.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
I've been meaning to try it!
@svjaz
Жыл бұрын
I use a connector mating piece clamped in a small machine vise.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Smart!
@mikegayda715
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic thanks short and to the point with everything you need to know
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@christianCreo
3 жыл бұрын
Very easy to follow. Thanks for this tutorial.
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ugenkfira1987
Жыл бұрын
Tanks mr tutorial nya, suscces always.
@Guitar-Geek
Жыл бұрын
very good job and scheme how to do it!
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@majortabs
7 ай бұрын
Great video. Quality all around. Meticulous.
@FrankOlsonTwins
7 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@hariowen3840
Жыл бұрын
I wish I had an instant solder melting iron like that.
@SouthpawAutoworks
2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! You got me wanting to build some cables. Thank you for sharing!
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
@danielrocha2581
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, greetings from México
@FrankOlsonTwins
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@giovanniyapuoficial7961
Жыл бұрын
Omgs! WONDERFULL MANNNNN!!!!
@ghevafadel9828
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@iblesbosuok
2 жыл бұрын
It is damn cinematic tutorial video. Impressive.
@MarkFromTaiwan
2 жыл бұрын
wow so good I just bought some phone heads need some instructions to work that I find you've done very nice job man and thank you so much
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad I could help!
@jpsilverplaylists
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Yr welcome!
@foxytv4896
Жыл бұрын
Nice Job !
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kgot7436
Жыл бұрын
My entire board is custom length soldered cable. Its time consuming but its worth it to not have a ton of extra cable.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
I hear you, every time I get a new piece of gear, I have to consider making new cables for it!
@kgot7436
Жыл бұрын
@@FrankOlsonTwins I suck at soldering. Luckily my buddy I jam with is a pro at it and doesn’t mind hooking me up, punch and pie obviously provided.
@boppin_bennie
2 жыл бұрын
I do an extra step of sliding some heat shrink about 1 1/2 to 2 inch long after sliding the cover & insulator over the cable, after soldering & crimping slide the heat shrink over the crimped end down over most of the connector & shrink with a heat gun, slide the insulator over and slide the cover over & screw down, you should have about an inch of heat shrunk cable acting as a strain relief also giving it a more finished look.
@SumansAuthenticRecipe
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@raym4694
Жыл бұрын
Good video, I just got one issue, when you soldered the wires, the solder you were using had Rosin core flux right? The problem with the flux is that it is great to help with the flow of the solder onto the wires but it has a MAJOR problem, its corrosive. Over time you will notice that your cables will start going bad, and the reason is that the flux residue being left after you soldered the wires will degrade the solder joint over time and cause the conductors in the wire to break down . And it all could have been avoided if you just added one extra step after you soldered the wires to the cable... You need to clean the solder joints and remove that flux residue immediately after soldering, and before anyone asks what to clean it with, either a contact cleaner like LPS contact cleaner or CRC contact cleaner, or if you don't have any of that you cant use at the bare minimum 70 proof rubbing alcohol, but 91 proof alcohol is the best to remove the residue . I know that there is NO-CLEAN solder ans fluxes out there, and you may have used that , but honestly I don't trust those no clean fluxes, I still clean that crap off, you can never be to sure when it comes to electronics, they are prone for corrosion damage and a little preventative maintenance will save you some grief later. Now if anyone wants to argue about this and say I'm full of crap go ahead, but just to let you know, I'm an Avionics Technician who has been working around aircraft wiring and electronics for 20 years now in the military and commercial and had also been working on guitar wiring for 22 years, so I think I know a thing or two about basic soldering principles... Like I said , not knocking your video, I actually enjoyed it and I subbed too, but I just want the people to get the correct info when dealing with electronics.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice, some good points here! I'm certainly not inclined to argue with someone who has so much first hand field experience! However, I was under the impression that Rosin core solder was a mild flux that was specifically formulated for copper/brass and is non-corrosive in no-wash scenarios. But, if professional Avionics Techs are cleaning the rosin off their joints, it must be best practice! I'll add this step to my soldering technique, I'm sure it'll prove to be valuable! Best, FOT
@lahiruridmal3173
Жыл бұрын
Thanx
@jigokunogamagaeru
Жыл бұрын
I've been always wondering if I could use the TV antena cable for guitar.Thank you!
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
You could try it! It will probably work but it's not very flexible.... Let me know if you ever try it. I'm interested to know what happens!
@jigokunogamagaeru
Жыл бұрын
@@FrankOlsonTwins Thank you for replying, will let you know when I make it!
@-Twotonepony-
Жыл бұрын
@@jigokunogamagaeru Well... Did you make it?
@OSBRAHIM2
Жыл бұрын
جيد جدا /احسنت
@lillehammerexperimental
3 жыл бұрын
Killer video - thank you 🙏 🤘🤘
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@mickypoo4622
Жыл бұрын
You really should use a proper wire stripper with graduated sizes to strip off the insulation rather than a plain blade, as you mention.. You should also twist the inner as well as the outer braided wires tightly together before inserting them into the contact holes to prevent them from spreading out. And you should also use a heat sink clip between the wires you are soldering and the insulation to prevent it from melting.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Agree on most points, however I try not to touch the inner conductor if possible to reduce contamination. Also, heatsinks shouldn't be necessary if you keep the solder times short and give each joint time to cool after soldering...waiting is the hard part!
@agodeo
Жыл бұрын
Clean job. Nice!
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@pierrecastillothelifeofpierre
3 жыл бұрын
Help a lot! God bless!
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@alandoyle6313
Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks. One small question though - why do so many folk say "sodder" when it's spelt and pronounced "solder" ?
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Ha, it's definitely a regional thing. In North America, the "L" is generally silent. In the UK and Europe, people pronounce the L.
@alandoyle6313
Жыл бұрын
@@FrankOlsonTwins oh, ok, got it 👍. 😆 I guess that's how language evolves 😃 A dang good video anyway, regardless of pronunciation...hee hee..... thanks again.
@MixingGBP
4 жыл бұрын
Frank Olson Twins Great work. I've watched your XLR video on repeat while I learned to make my own XLR to TRS cables with Canare quad core wire. I am going to make a new Canare TS instrument cable...it will be so much easier than the quad cable TRS solder joints! I like Switchcraft TRS connectors, but the long length of the ring lead on that connector makes it super tough to manage with the quad cable wires. I finally found a trick to it that helped me speed up my time.
@FrankOlsonTwins
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, glad to hear the videos are helping! Glad to hear that others are making and using their own cables! I know what you mean, TS cables are a breeze after you make a bunch of TRS quad cables!
@madnessbydesign1415
Жыл бұрын
Try the Canare TRS connectors. Much easier to work with, and tough as Hell. I always had to cut that extra long ring lead in the Switchcraft TRS's, which was a chore. For XLR's, go Neutrik For RCA, TRS, and TS, go Canare. I never had any of these connectors fail in my 20 years of soldering in an Audio/Video rental house... :)
@dalrok
Жыл бұрын
Good video, but there's one thing I disagree with: the choice of the plugs with riveted contacts. For short patch cables these plugs are OK, but for heavy stage use they're not reliable. My advice: spend 2-3 bucks more for good, heavy duty, machined plugs like Neutriks with solid contacts and better strain relief. In combination with a high quality cable like the above You'll have cables that last for years. For the last 50 years I made all my stage and PA cables myself (I'm a bass & guitar player and soundguy) this way and never had any problems. Even if the cable itself has to be replaced (microphonic or broken etc.), You can still use the plugs again and again, they're built like tanks.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
That's fair. I use and like the style of Neutrik you're describing, but I've used both for many years and have never had issue with either. I can't say the same for Switchcraft, however. I've had random failures with switchcraft barrel plugs, so I generally steer clear of them. One thing I like about the connector in the video is its slightly lower profile in most respects than the more expensive one. But again, I use both styles and like them both! Thanks for checking it out!
@dalrok
Жыл бұрын
@@FrankOlsonTwins I agree with You, for patch cables on high density panels or effectboards, where size is an issue, I also use slimmer / shorter ones mostly from Amphenol or other brands (I agree with with You on the switchcraft plugs). On my basses & guitars I only use the Neutrik types. The worst thing happening is that someone steps on Your cable and the plug breaks (I had that moment many years ago in the middle of a gig). The idea with a pedal is great. At my workshop I'm using a 19" patchpanel mounted on a wooden socket, equipped with 2 x 1/4" sockets, 2 x B-gauge sockets, 2 x XLR male & female, 2 x Speakon and wired to a cable tester, so I can test the cables immediately.
@whitevultur
4 жыл бұрын
:o after this video I feel like I've been soldering wrong my whole life
@FrankOlsonTwins
4 жыл бұрын
"Terminal" soldering like this makes it look easy 🤩 But my general rule is keep it short and sweet. Most joints shouldn't take more than 3-4 seconds 🐆
@MixingGBP
4 жыл бұрын
I used to do it wrong. I would not tin the wires, and just add solder on top of cold wires. Then after lots of repetition, I got soldering a TRS cable down to this...When I tin the cable wire, I add a little dab solder to the tip of the iron before touching it to the bare metal. When that solder touches the bare metal the whole wire gets hot really fast. I add new solder to the bare wire area to finish the tinning. When both the wire and the connector are tinned, it makes it super easy to connect. All you do is bring both parts together, heat the connector on the opposite side and then watch the pool of solder in the connector envelop the tinned wire.
@em0_tion
4 жыл бұрын
@@MixingGBP Although we all eventually learn from trial and error + experience, very few people admit their mistakes or ignorance. I can tell you're a good person without even knowing you ;) Respect 🍻
@shamusenright5387
3 жыл бұрын
Bloody great video! Thanks
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Glad you enjoyed it!
@Voltechs-Tv
Жыл бұрын
Nice... Good job. 😮😮!
@sre331l
2 жыл бұрын
Use star quad, opposites shielded for xlr
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@AT-wl9yq
Жыл бұрын
Why? This is a single ended application.
@immanueludasapalli
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a valid information 🙏🙏
@FrankOlsonTwins
4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@janstankiewicz5145
Жыл бұрын
Dobra robota 👍. Dziękuję.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@yilmazcagri
2 жыл бұрын
thanx.. what if the problem is not at the soldering? what if the broken part "in the middle" of the cable somewhere? how can i find the broken part and cut the cable there?
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
This can be difficult. You'll need a multimeter to test the cable conductors to be sure which parts are working or not working. Then you'll basically have to visually inspect the wire by bending it around your fingers. A broken section will usually look different than the rest. Otherwise, you'll have to start cutting up the cable to see where it starts working...
@RedArrow73
2 жыл бұрын
5:20 - LOCTITE!
@rafbass
Жыл бұрын
Nice trick about the guitar pedal jack to have a third hand.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! That one took a few years to figure out!
@Hide_and_Tweak
9 ай бұрын
angle connectors are harder to do, especially the flat ones cause you have almost no space
@FrankOlsonTwins
9 ай бұрын
The 90 degree switchcraft ones are a bit easier, but many of the small pancake ones are a bit more difficult...
@Mee0tchy
3 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you! I noticed you did not tin the wires before soldering to the connector. Common advice advocates tinning the wires first, but your strategy allows better shaping of the wire against the connector. Thoughts?
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! In many cases, tinning wires first would be ideal. However, with a hot iron(not too hot, don't melt the insulation off the wire), clean wire, and clean contacts- tinning shouldn't be necessary. One thing to note: this is why i make a smaller ground wire, it's easier to solder in one step without over heating the wire. As you noticed, it allows you to easily insert and shape the wire before soldering. Shaping wire with a hot soldering iron is not ideal! Also, getting a tinned wire through that tiny connector hole would be an exercise in frustration. Good luck!
@wadewade5915
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@FrankOlsonTwins
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gedcowburn2371
6 ай бұрын
I'm just starting out making my own cables and I notice some people "tin" the jacks beforehand. What do you think if this practice? Is it worth doing?
@FrankOlsonTwins
6 ай бұрын
Sure, tinning can be helpful. Tinning the jacks makes the final joint a bit quicker, which could help to not overheat the cable. However, with this type of cable end, I find that tinning the inner conductor of the wire can make it a bit harder to insert it into the hole. If you're careful though, you can tin just enough to "wet" the wire without adding excess diameter, so it will still go through the hole. In either case, just check all sides of the joint to make sure none of the joint remains "dry." If it is, let the joint cool and then reheat and add solder to the dry spot. kzitem.info/news/bejne/p4-f2opno4h-q44 Here's the latest cable video I did, with updated cable connectors. In this video, I tin each conductor first. Tinning is a standard procedure in soldering, I'm certainly not trying to dissuade anyone from doing it. However, I make a choice between ease of assembly and proper technique. Sometimes, one of those things has to give for the best final result.
@ShibuGeorgeMac
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@FrankOlsonTwins
3 жыл бұрын
No problem
@alexrangel410
4 жыл бұрын
You don't tin your cables or connector first?
@FrankOlsonTwins
4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I do(depending on the connection), but for most guitar cable connectors I find it isn't necessary. With an iron at the correct temperature both contact points should solder quick just like the video. It might take a few practice solder joints to make sure the iron is hot enough/not too hot. Also, it helps if the wires are super clean with no visible oxidation. That can complicate things, and might require cleaning first and tinning to get a solid joint. Things that help: Keep the shield wire connection reasonably short/small. Keep your Iron tip clean/tinned and hot. Keep your soldering time as short as absolutely necessary.
@metallitech
Жыл бұрын
What do you think about inserting the centre conductor from inside to outside? It's not too hard to see the parts getting bend together and shorting the signal otherwise. Just a thought.
@FrankOlsonTwins
Жыл бұрын
Good question! You can do that if you like. To me, it seems approximately the same distance between the positive conductor and ground so I doubt it matters much. However, I do see the appeal of having the insulation of the inner conductor as a fail safe in case of a bending issue. That said, after many years of use I've never had one of these Neutrik/Rean plugs fail in such a way. I've seen very cheap plugs/cables bent to the point of failure. I believe when properly soldered and fastened to the cable insulation, the failure rate of these cable ends is quite low.
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