So many comments about music reading, I wanna chime in. As guitarist I play as many genres as I can and the hardest ones are the ones written down with good ole original notation. The saddest part about a musician that never learned to play without sheet music, never learned how to improvise. Is that you can't jam with them. You can only hope to follow along a piece they or you both know. Playing a solo piece is awesome, but its so much more funner and life fulfilling to play music with others. Its like a secret language where you can share new endless "phrases". The downside of not ever learning to read though is that you'll miss out on some incredibly well thought out planned harmonies, chords, counter point melodies, etc... because unfortunately not everyone is a freak of nature with improv where they can learn those things themselves without ever hearing it before. It could take you a month to analyze one composition, but you will gain so much from that. It will directly effect your ability to improvise with new fresh and exciting ideas. Sight reading is faked, only a tiny percentage of musicians can take any complex piece of music and play it, while looking at it for the first time. The written music is just there in case you forget the next phrase or section of a song, a coda, etc... I'm about to see Guthrie live for the first time at the Microsoft Theater,with Hans Zimmers band. I hope I can at least shake his hand somehow and thank him for his work.
@Han-Wook
12 жыл бұрын
When the notes are to fast too figure out, it works to play the song and pause it sudenly, then identify the last note you heard (and repeat process). If you find the first and last notes of a phrase it will be easier to find the ones in between. also, you can focus on the notes emphasized or rythmically more important then fill out the ones in between. This always works for me, even in figuring out "Guthrie fast" shreding by ear.
@TheamazingM
11 жыл бұрын
Something I realized recently with the whole learning licks by ear thing. Is that you don't have to pick it out at its original tempo. Say theirs a fast lick, listen enough times until you can play it in your head without the song, and then slow down the tempo, usually this will work. Same with hearing a chord and then breaking it down into an arpeggio, rather than trying to pick out all the notes at the same time.
@OHHELLGITMONEYtroll
12 жыл бұрын
It all makes sense after the first tip. Holy mother of God.
@TheTeds35
13 жыл бұрын
i love how guthrie is talking about using your ears and people are asking for tabs
@Steveman1981
12 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah!!!! Plus, growing up, prior to the internet being everywhere, and tab books where not as reliable as they are now, I had to pick everything out by ear... and I'd hate to say it, but other than just making me SELF-reliant, it was also fun!!!!
@tajolariffin6147
5 жыл бұрын
yea, i’ve tried that,learning by ears in the early days when i first pickup the guitar i always find song not by tab but by ears..it really helps and i improve a lot, compared to my friends..but still, i cant be like you Guthrie, is there anything else that i can do to become like you, maybe like boil the guitar string and then drinks the water
@jimmikatt
11 жыл бұрын
If i had 3 tips for beginner players it would be exactly the same as the video. spot on.
@joaodanieldemello2137
5 жыл бұрын
Best advices on youtube
@bouxesas
12 жыл бұрын
The only lesson where I can play what he plays
@dibaliba
14 жыл бұрын
this video must was taken when he been to Bejing. he is my Lord~~~~!!! thanks upload!!
@Bflatest
13 жыл бұрын
@F4TB0Y69 I play by ear and have never studied music I am a student of playing for a living for 20 years. What I mean in my comment was ... Even when you play from your heart there is a way to do it, that keeps you in control. Even with NO theory a guitarist in time will and should learn certain rules that can keep them on track when they play from their hearts. Example: Cook a meal anyway you want and add salt, pepper and do it from your heart but follow a recipe or some meals may be bad
@Tacoguitar
14 жыл бұрын
Master!
@TahaNasser
13 жыл бұрын
@guitar5289 use software that allows you to slow it down. I use something called Transcribe
@Willtext
12 жыл бұрын
fantastic advice.
@112358miau
13 жыл бұрын
@89ErwinR Play with a long delay. Play a different note over the last one . You will be forced to think fast what will sound well.
@floaterincloud
13 жыл бұрын
it sucks when i'm the guy he's describing in the video.... but he's right
@FreakShreek
12 жыл бұрын
And I do everything which Guthrie asks me NOT to do!
@steveo27545
14 жыл бұрын
yeah great advice, thanks
@Bflatest
13 жыл бұрын
@F4TB0Y69 thanks! I will add that I only use a one scale (mainly) MAJOR but if you know how to use it it covers everything.
@Bflatest
13 жыл бұрын
@F4TB0Y69 for my method of improvisation i use the chords as a map and scales as roads :)
@rjgeigersmusic
11 жыл бұрын
I've watched a lot of what Steve Vai has said and taught and I don't recall him suggesting people to read and write music. All those schools you mention are really for a different type of musician with the exception of MI which seems to cater more for rockers. Those schools try to uphold academics, teach properness.. like eat food with your elbows off the table.. manners you know. I mean how many hours and lessons do you think it takes to become a pro classical pianist. more than average has
@Bflatest
13 жыл бұрын
@F4TB0Y69 Yes I use both those a lot BUT they are the same as MAJOR not one difference except where the root is. Like E Dorian is the same scale as D Major so all modes look the same to me but the pentatonic and other things like the root are in different place is all
@thegreatgarry
13 жыл бұрын
Agree with Guthrie but somehow I need tabs for all of your sick stuffs !!
@julianisdope
12 жыл бұрын
i got a lot from this and i play drums
@camshreds
12 жыл бұрын
haha lol. i once saw one for a guy that covered nothing else matters and another guy asked where the tabs were. THAT IS SUCH AN EASY SONG.
@rjgeigersmusic
11 жыл бұрын
FG is known for his sweep picking, he has a lot of knowledge, and taught at MI. None of the stuff that makes him great he got from reading piano music. He might have been forced to learn it at MI and he probably even taught it. I use to teach and if you want to make money, well you teach reading. I quit because it was fake and I was just taking peoples money and wasting their time.
@guitar5289
13 жыл бұрын
Yeah but certain songs, like almost all of his, have parts that are so fast how is it possible to hear every note?
@rjgeigersmusic
11 жыл бұрын
I was a bit harsh on that... i didn't mean that way and those guys are very dedicated and probably love what they do. If i could read well maybe I would enjoy it but i'm more of a blues player at heart. I like the feel. Sheet music would take that away, it wouldn't be mine anymore it would be someone elses notes. Can it help with timing and learning 1/4 notes and rests? sure but for me as i've said, it is on the bottom of the list. I appreciate the debate though and mean no hard feelings
@rjgeigersmusic
11 жыл бұрын
I've seen hundreds of students take lessons for years and years reading music and they still suck and can't play anything unless they have their music. That is the problem i have with it.It is old school and backwards.It worked for the classical guys but not now I will agree it can be a tool and sure you can get some stuff from it but for me it would be on the bottom of the list of importance and I teach that way accordingly and I get students coming from other teachers that like it better
@moss1transcendant
13 жыл бұрын
guthrie keeps looking at the photographers camera like its stealing parts of his soul
@SuiGio
13 жыл бұрын
@waylay00 It's how you have learned so far...Some need the food ready in their dishes....Some need to cook their minds to... if you get me
@condorfious
13 жыл бұрын
@RickardHallerback Most would greatly benefit from a book called "The Music Lesson" by Victor Wooten. What Guthrie says here makes a lot of sense for everyone once they see music in that light. I highly recommend it even for fictional reading pleasure =) Go check it out!
@HispanicImpression
13 жыл бұрын
@waylay00 Yeah, it's so dumb, especially when they ask that facing a video which makes every grabbing issue clear...
@ChronoGXay
12 жыл бұрын
(0:21) Why you little... Guthrie Govan is flipping me off! D:
@Bflatest
13 жыл бұрын
he's awesome but I would suggest learning how melody works with chords. His advise is good if you have loads of talent but for those that need to work for it, they need to understand how to play a 5th over a 1 and what that means :) I do love his first tip though hehehe you need to be a NOTE PLACER and a RIFF PLAYER
@GuitarAndWhatevs
12 жыл бұрын
Guitar Jesus all mighty.
@Trilobite8jesus
13 жыл бұрын
@waylay00 I wish every person on youtube criticizing players for wanting tablature by saying a song is easy, to spell out their own words. It is so frustrating, especially when it is ridiculously easy to spell 'please', 'thanks', and 'are'.
@gnrcr
13 жыл бұрын
I was looking for tabs for Waves when I opened this. I now feel guilty.
@peavelSD
13 жыл бұрын
'i hope that's helpful'
@NailedSolo
14 жыл бұрын
godness
@whereverthere
13 жыл бұрын
WHAT? I can't read his lips, what'd he say? I've been sitting in my bedroom doin' excercises and mastering some fishing technique that's supposed to help me get good fishes, has to do with bating something or another, but I am told I'ma master at it...
@k1kac0
13 жыл бұрын
NEVER RELY ON TABLATURE!
@Ziggetren
13 жыл бұрын
The problem here is that you cant hear every note when some one is shreddig in 300 bpm with effects :P That's when tabs come in handy. But sure I agree you should rely on your ears instead of tab, especially when all tabs aren't correct.
@losburrakos
13 жыл бұрын
how can anyone read those translation symbols so fast???
@kharnvelzyghur
13 жыл бұрын
FOR TABS... PAUSE AT 0:22
@89ErwinR
13 жыл бұрын
@guitar5289 slow it down somehow...
@Ricsic6
13 жыл бұрын
I live in london man, There no people to join a fucking band with!!! :(((((
@funnyguy1321
12 жыл бұрын
Good job on missing the point.
@pswoods
13 жыл бұрын
LOL he's given a lot of guitar lessons.
@Bflatest
13 жыл бұрын
meant to say ... NOTE PLACER NOT a RIFF PLAYER
@waylay00
13 жыл бұрын
@Trilobite8jesus I hope you realize that the misspellings were intentional, hence the quotation marks...
@Corpsealanche
12 жыл бұрын
Goddamnit... I do all three of those wrong.
@rjgeigersmusic
11 жыл бұрын
You might learn something from Vic. Sure he is a bassist but you are asking me to read PIANO music. And no it isn't guitar music, it is piano music period. You want people to learn from sheet music than don't limit them by saying you can't learn anything from a bassist. Sheet music is just an interpretation of what somebody already created. Music created sheet music NOT the other way around. Steve Vai is a tweaker, he prides himself on being spacey and all knowing,
@RickardHallerback
13 жыл бұрын
These tips are only valid for the musically gifted, others rely on tabulature or blindly just play tones out of scales without a musical idea to back them up with. Those persons will probably never understand what GG is saying here, just take his words for cliché and await new tips on how to shred faster..
@XrmyDxrk1403
11 жыл бұрын
In spanish Pls :(
@pepectm
12 жыл бұрын
See? That's the difference between you and guthrie, he teaches, don't criticsizes (spelled it wrong, i know grammar nazzi), not like every other guitarist, every one starts like that, asking for tabs and stuff..there is and always be someone better than you..
@las10plagas
11 жыл бұрын
yes vai was hired by zappa. but he sucked too much for him ;-) zappa said. and thats no joke. zappa said that vai could only read and play sheet music and cannot follow him (zappa) at all... thats what HE said ;-) you see the irony?
@marcoalexanderwinthermikke9132
11 жыл бұрын
Use your ears..
@rjgeigersmusic
11 жыл бұрын
I disagree. It turns you into a robot just reading off of a page mindlessly. It is just like tabs. I play piano and read PIANO music, not well but I get it enough. That stuff is for classical piano people and orchestra type people who have to play huge long pieces of music. It is a waste of time for 99 percent of guitar players. Piano music you have one middle C, guitar you have several, piano sheet music just doesn't make sense for guitar.
@rjgeigersmusic
11 жыл бұрын
Just ask Victor Wooten, reading music should be the last thing on the mind. The man in this video says use your ears first. Reading piano music is only good for playing in a jazz band on a cruise ship. God help you if you want to do that. None of guitar heroes got their playing ability from reading piano music period.or even tabs for that matter. you won't convince me otherwise. Most people watching this video probably are not going to want to play jazz charts and read.. waste of time
@89ErwinR
13 жыл бұрын
fuck! i cant find people to play with!!
@las10plagas
11 жыл бұрын
lol what? calm down first ;-) and dont take everything on the internet personally. >.< watch?v=r6cplMM3d_Q watch and lern. i didnt say that vaI isnt good. zappa told so ;-)
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