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@CurseHammer
27 күн бұрын
What would be your “in good faith” answer to lore reason to why there are female custodies. I can’t see a reason as to why they are needed as they fill no role in the lore or table top. This is a genuine question as I haven’t had any conversations that ended with a answer other then because they can be or why shouldn’t they be.
@stevenfrati
27 күн бұрын
@@CurseHammer There is no "good faith" answer because Warhammer 40k isn't a "good faith" setting. It was originally a vague justification to mash together dubious intellectual properties and profit off producing toys like everything from that era forward. Time and time again GW has to reiterate that "it's all made up and none of it matters(Warp/Tzeentch/Unreliable Rememberancer/Inquisitorial Redaction)" as a reminder that as a "Young Adult" property along with the various other technical and social skills designed into the product there is a teaching aspect of "letting go" of petty ideological squabbles that is baked into the satirical nature of the Imperium itself. Your best "In Good Faith" reason could be any vaguely canonically supported beliefs that personally fits your individual setting. Perhaps before being interred to the Golden Throne The Emperor of Mankind decreed with his final unaided breath "No One Must Know I've Genetically Engineered A Harem Of Gilded Bang Maids To Faithfully Tend To Me While I Hold Back The Unfurling Realm Of Chaos From Devouring Mankind", you know because he was humble and a little bit coy like that.
@GlassHalfDead
26 күн бұрын
@@CurseHammer Steven makes the best point possible, unfortunately. 40k as a setting is so unreliable that I could say ANYTHING and you could counter it with ANYTHING and we're both correct. Citing anything in lore is literally pointless. We need to go deeper and define 40k in relation to "death of the author", define the 3 types of satire, how 40k uses or ignores those, and then how the community takes the setting. I can give legitimate reasons for (for example) space marines 100% should be all male, but I can also give reasons for why space marines should be a 50/50 mix male and female. Both arguments would be just as valid as each other, and it's all about how YOU PERSONALLY feel 40k should be viewed. But the next person in line could have the opposite view to you and they would be just as correct. Hence how I ended this video. It's all bullshit, you can take it however you want and no one can tell you if you're right or wrong. This is also what makes it so easy to apply our own heavily skewed world views to the setting. It's a feature not a bug. Everyone's right, everyone's wrong.
@ghostrhinorhino4287
26 күн бұрын
As a person who does martial arts as a hobby and was a competitive athlete.The idea that a female would be the pinnacle of humanity is Retardedly stupid I can pull up at least three videos on the ukrainian war showing why sending women the front lines is horrible. Damn YOU guys really drinking ISG EDI ideas. It's really quite funny because even when this argument started six months ago no one can someone explain to me like the purpose or the benefit of having women on the battlefield? Someone said that there's a smaller frame and slightly better marksman. Having less endurance being less tough being less strong to carry your supplies.These are all decent reasons To not have females in your combat squads. And before. I get hit with "your misogyness" banhammer. All my favorite books and movies are written by females and even favorite characters, not only in 40k like Latara Serene. Put old female writers had an better understanding of the cold, hard callousness that life is. Also, I believe that most female writers have a better comprehension of mutilation of the mind in stories. Like being trapped in society where you can't escape or change. And to answer anyone who's wondering why is this happening? Why is a certain ideology coming bubbling to the surface of all of our media? It is most likely having to do with Vanguard/ blackRock. Pushing French Syndicalism and possibly a sum of fake socialist values being pushed upon society
@Sjakkel
26 күн бұрын
You have missed the point entirely. This stuff is not just limited to Warhammer. DEI has been infecting every form of media for 10+ years, before that even, albeit in a more limited scope. It's cultural marxism being rammed down our throats. As for the hobby itself, if you're going to be a coward about it and not point out bullshit when you see it, you have no right to complain when it gets to a point where you don't even recognize the franchise anymore. Gatekeeping IS necessary.
@corvus_armatura7595
27 күн бұрын
No, according to warhammer lore, you cannot teleport things like bombs through void shields. If that was the case, Horus wouldn't have even touched down or sieged Terra with Perturabo.
@Cirac1
27 күн бұрын
It sure would be inconvenient if this was done by someone who intimately knows the security infrastructure and has access to all kinds of esoteric technology we haven't explored.
@giantninja9173
27 күн бұрын
If he could then he wouldn’t have anyways. As a chaos champion he needed ALL the death and destruction offered by the bloody siege to get juiced by the gods. He needed to kill big E with his own hands to send the message.
@corvus_armatura7595
27 күн бұрын
@@Cirac1 You really think someone that has even less purpose or lesser thinking than a Primarch would have clearance for that tech? Martian Mechanicus would've surrendered quickly with their machine worship not even coming into existence if that was the case. An exterminatus that can wipe clean through a void shield is enough to make Crusades or any ground assault irrelevant meaning less casualties for the side that has it or some means to it. Why would the Emperor even make Primarchs like Perturabo, Dorn or even Girlyman if he's got his threats backed by a literal weapon that can punch through the warp and basically anything in realspace?
@corvus_armatura7595
27 күн бұрын
@@Cirac1 You know if the Imperium did have this tech and never let someone like Perturabo have it, the Emperor wouldn't just look selfish, but also stupid considering that one exterminatus is not worth having so many Astartes die in meatgrinder battles. It's even worst considering that the payload doesn't even have to be an exterminatus level nuke but even a Davy Crockett into a rogue Planetary Governor's palace protected by hive city voidshields is going to be enough to literally end a war. Even if said Governor is the weakest primarch you can be sure this tech could easily end a war with less casualties or expendature than anything the mechanicus currently have or will ever have in their whole existence.
@SarajevoKyoto
27 күн бұрын
@@corvus_armatura7595 to be fair, no matter which interpretation of the Emperor you ascribe to, he IS canonically both selfish and stupid.
@fredcrist7045
27 күн бұрын
It's pretty simple. Make a box of female costodes. See how well they sale. That should settle the rift.
@FOXY_SPHYNX
24 күн бұрын
Easy W for the real fans GW won't see past 20 bucks
@nikkotan2840
23 күн бұрын
Yeah even better make an Eldar Costudes hahaha
@FOXY_SPHYNX
23 күн бұрын
@@nikkotan2840 orkodes
@Nighthaunter-t3j
23 күн бұрын
This is not a bout money its woke ideology being pushed by Blackrock which the majority shareholder of Games Workshop. This is just the beginning. 40k and all other GW IPs will be unrecognizable in a few years.
@DevDog98
22 күн бұрын
whats funny is we already have "female custodes" they are the sisters of silence but GW doesnt care about them whatsoever which sucks because they are cool as shit. oh well must suck the rainbow mob's chode.
@scepteredisle
27 күн бұрын
GW actually thinks we're idiots lmao. RIP.
@GlassHalfDead
27 күн бұрын
They don't think it, they know it. We pay that much for toys? We'll take anything!
@Keithslawinski
27 күн бұрын
@@GlassHalfDead Yea GW is the worst! Also super excited to buy the new Hivestorm box set!
@noblegalifreyan4551
27 күн бұрын
People have been saying for years they are done buying GW stuff only for them to buy the next launch box because they have no self control.
@JamesSerapio
27 күн бұрын
@@Keithslawinski😂😂😂❤❤❤
@Алексей545-т6б
27 күн бұрын
@@GlassHalfDead This actually should work in reverse - give people who pay you money things they actually want and ask. Otherwise you just turn your IP into another Disney Star Wars franchise
@cottermcg123
26 күн бұрын
So when can we get male sisters of silence?
@mattwhitepaintjob4925
25 күн бұрын
You do technically have already Male Sisters of Silence. Its just a Male Blank instead of a Female Blank. The great part about 40K is you can write your own stories and there is a chance it's happened in the universe. The biggest problem is getting the models for the characters but Kit Bashing and 3d printing helps.
@Gortboy2k11
25 күн бұрын
Culexus assassins.
@DevDog98
22 күн бұрын
@@mattwhitepaintjob4925not good enough i want misters of silence or youre a bigot
@lupticyt5016
22 күн бұрын
@@mattwhitepaintjob4925sisters of silence and regular blanks aren’t the same at all your opinion is heretical
@teejay1646
18 күн бұрын
@@DevDog98It's so funny watching you behave like children over this stuff as if this was something *demanded* by a minority and not just something the writers wanted to make part of the faction from its inception
@pabloalonsolasagabaster658
27 күн бұрын
It had nothing to do with ¨hating women¨. Nobody has ever had a problem with Sisters of battle, escher gangers, or Ursula Creed replacing her father.
@tonycajefe
26 күн бұрын
Right. There's so many great female character in 40k. We love them. Hating female custodes doesn't mean we hate women.
@skriznacrunthunner2178
26 күн бұрын
@@tonycajefeonly picked up the banana boys last November but the ret-con of lore does bother me to some degree when it feels phoned in, that being said I now have lady venatari (3rd party prints) fuck em' if they aren't supplying the models for their new lore I'll find my own
@veameal9725
26 күн бұрын
"Tithe" literally has sisters of silence. They look awesome. Amazon's DEI hand is deep up GW's collective butthole.
@scannerbarkly
26 күн бұрын
Lol, there is definitely a subset of the community that hates women. Don't be silly. Y'all will run headlong into cope rather than just admit some 40k fans are tools. It's weird.
@Littlecowardgaming
26 күн бұрын
@@tonycajefe I hate dumb people who makes this argument about 'us'. We dont hate women, we hate political agendas inserting themselves into things we love. Make a new chapter, a new organization of female marines or whatever and we'd be all about it as long as its a good story. But inserting them into one of peoples favorite factions is just lazy. Same with any other media. We dont want to see a female thor, female iron man, female everything, make your own super-heroes, dont just swap out our favorite things.
@mandyd9681
27 күн бұрын
Meh it was revealed in a dumb way, they doubled down on their dumb decision and we got no new sisters of silence models so im still upset about it 🤣
@ThrashRats
26 күн бұрын
Why are people surprised GW reveals stuff in a stupid, dumb way? Primaris marines reason of existing at first was a Mechanicus member somehow making better marines than the Emperor did. Increasing their general efficiency, curing all their genetic mistakes and overall creating a better supersoldier than what was probably the Emperor's greatest achievement.
@mandyd9681
26 күн бұрын
@@ThrashRats primaris at least had a story reason to show up, female custodes, all we got told was, they were always there. in a tweet no less
@DisemboweII
26 күн бұрын
@@mandyd9681 Sisters of Silence ARE female Custodes, the same way SoB are female SM. They were the "cool, gold-armoured elite unit" comprised of exclusively females. GW were never sexist, females are everywhere in 40K, it's a damn shame they had to sell out to the American woke mob like this.
@ThrashRats
26 күн бұрын
@@mandyd9681 Wasn't their reason just a model problem? How the SM models weren't really the true scale to guardsmen, so they gave a poor lore reason to trash old marines and bring new ones. As for Fem custodes, the reason is money. Make models down the line, allow more freedom with their animations or catch the interest of people that think Warhammer is just a sausage-fest. I hate that both these big changes in the lore were done so badly even if they are, in my opinion, good changes. But it's not a surprise that GW fucks up announcing these things. It took them two years to fix up people's perception of Primaris Marines so, here's hoping they do the same for the new custodes.
@mysteidolon8850
25 күн бұрын
@@ThrashRats Female custodes won't sell.
@jamesdrake3651
27 күн бұрын
I'll never pay for any of their animated content.
@GlassHalfDead
27 күн бұрын
Honestly, probably the best way to go. After the hype of stopping Astartes, to then put out animation MUCH WORSE than it... self own.
@simonlarge2052
27 күн бұрын
Making the community pay to access their marketing is the most GW thing I can think of
@giantninja9173
27 күн бұрын
@@GlassHalfDeadI swear they specifically used Astartes for the space marine 2 announcement trailer and that was it.
@noblegalifreyan4551
27 күн бұрын
Remember the community harassed SODAZ out of the community. Let's not pretend you all saints
@punec
21 күн бұрын
@@simonlarge2052 Imagine being a company that has such great lore that inspires people so dedicated as to create top quality animations or other media that is basically free marketing for your lazy ass(the company) and you go and ban said people, recruit them(basically keeping them in creative prison) and than go out with shitty animations of your own, that aren't a tenth as good as what dedicated fans of the universe do on their own, and put those shitty animations behind a paywall... Bravo GW. Pure greed and stupidity. Love the universe, hate the corporation higher ups that are making these stupid descisions
@wildhook3901
26 күн бұрын
During the writing of “Emperor of mankind” Adb asked GW/BL if he could portray females custodians in the book. They said “No, Declined “ These changes are not made in good faith now and everyone knows it.
@ghostrhinorhino4287
26 күн бұрын
yes 💯 this is true
@shadowywarrior
26 күн бұрын
eh....this is a gross mischaracterization of the situation. Most people didn't have an issue with female custodies on themselves. Most people had an issue with the manner of which it was done. "has and always have been" which was incredibly lazy. People don't like that. I'm sure there are some that actively don't like the concept of "female" but there's nothing in the lore that directly prevents it. Just the lazy manner of which GW went about this situation became more and more apparent. You had people with no writing experience or just random people making far better standards and manner of which female custodies would fit in the lore, that wasn't COMING FROM GW. and that is a major issue that has to be addressed. This entire conversation had three effective factions for this. You had... 1.) The activists. those who didn't care all too much about the hobby, and just thought that we should insert diversity into everything. 2.) The moderates, those who didn't mind that female custodies are now a thing, but didn't like the way that gw went about things. 3.) The lore purists, those who didn't like that there was a potential breach in the continuity of the lore. the issue with the conversation is that it stopped being productive. The first faction kept antagonizing the other two, which in turn, the third faction became more extreme, and the second faction more exacerbated . I also don't care for the argument of "women invading" as if warhammer 40k didn't have its own share of females...in it...and people weren't against that....sisters of battle is still a popular faction, sisters of silence are part of the custodies, heroic tales of heroes within the imperial guard, men and women. This argument about "people hating female" is so disingenius and demonstrates just how little anyone that is making this argument knows about any of the characters of the game/lore, and only care about what is popular and demanding that it conforms to them and only them.
@davidshaw123451001
22 сағат бұрын
Since when do you speak for 'most people'?
@shadowywarrior
22 сағат бұрын
@@davidshaw123451001 idk, most people do not have a problem with women...are you trying to claim that most people do have a problem with women? Are you outing yourself as a sexist or someone who wants it to be trie so you can feel validated in your victim mentality?
@davidshaw123451001
22 сағат бұрын
@@shadowywarrior Some people who see a female in a role that is normally used as male often get angry and believe this is 'woke', without actually defining woke and yes, like GHD, I have seen this attitude many times. I didn't see a huge issue with Custodes suddenly using Golden Armour rather than sporting the Greek look, nor would their be a huge fuss about Dark Angels turning from Native American to European Knights (which they did), however, having a female Custode is a massive issue. If you have not seen countless people getting upset about 'woke culture' then count yourself lucky. I and others have seen many.
@shadowywarrior
20 сағат бұрын
@davidshaw123451001 i have. But at the same time, did you ever listen to them, no? Then maybe that's your problem. They are defining because you refuse to acknowledge it. That's not a them problem. It's your problem cause it's your failure. In my eyes...again, most people had no problem with female custodies... This entire fucking fight had 3 factions. 1.) The activists 2.) The moderates 3.) The lore purists. You have 1 and 3 fighting it out about female custodies, which just became a giant trench match. And then you had the moderates that just hated how gw did it. And then you had faction 1. People like you...pissing off the second faction and pushing them towards faction 3.
@davidshaw123451001
11 сағат бұрын
@@shadowywarrior No, my problem is I find the whole woke and anti woke nonsense tiring. I hear them getting excited about a female custodies because it's disrespectful to the lore while they ignore every other random change GW have made. I've read what they've said and I know woke/anti woke nonsense when I see it.
@Badbufon
27 күн бұрын
as a tourist my opinion is that they should have more sisters of silence before changing the lore, they have only 1 unit?, c'mon dude.
@mattmark94
26 күн бұрын
You sir have more common sense than a lot of selfproclaimed "fans". If GW, instead of femstodes, introduced a truckload of new Sisters of Battle and Silence models, NOBODY would have complained about it.
@Badbufon
26 күн бұрын
@@mattmark94 I saw a review of the last episode of the tithes and seriously I don't understand why they wanted a female custodes, her character is the same as any inquisitor so far, and there were already female inquisitors. Besides that just having custodes outside of terra irks me lol I am not against the change, I just find it dumb so far, maybe one day I am proven wrong tho
@horrorfan117
23 күн бұрын
@@Badbufon Uhhhg... The Custodes going outside of Terra has been a thing for years. An Inquisitor would disappear the moment they suggested a Chapter abandon it's oath. And I still don't see the big deal. A poorly rolled out retcon is nothing new. Hell I find the Squats disappearing and reappearing with no more than a hand wave more egregious.
@Badbufon
23 күн бұрын
@@horrorfan117 i never said it is a big deal, mildly annoyance at most. BUT DON'T LET ME START ON THE SQUAT THING! THEY MASSACRED BY BOYS! THEY HAD SUNGLASSES AND RIDE BIKES AND HAD TATOOS AND ALL! THEY WERE SO COOL! BUT *GW* SQUATTED THEM AND MADE THEM LOOK LIKE BORING SPACE MARINES WITH A FREAKING BOOGIE TRUCK! THEEEE OUUTRRAAAGGGEEEE IS REAAAALL! DAMN YOU *GW* !!!!
@SootyWebster
27 күн бұрын
They could have said the custodes ranks were decimated so badly, during the war for the web way under the palace during the Heresy, so they had to replenish the ranks with the first born scions.
@waynedodson7360
27 күн бұрын
That makes too much sense to do.
@SootyWebster
27 күн бұрын
@@waynedodson7360 it's been handled like the intro of primaris. They could have made them the 10,000 remaining broken legion marines Malcador the Sigillite had collected and tucked away, with Cawl working on them while they were kept in stasis... but you're right ... too much sense.
@tarektechmarine8209
27 күн бұрын
NO
@mediumsurmoon6283
24 күн бұрын
NO, there cannot be reasons to why it happens. It just has to happen, like a flick of a finger, because woman is superior to men, and even if they aren’t, they are equal to men in every way imaginable. So it has to be “They have always been there, because.. they are” Okay, next up, transgender Sister of Silence and fat positivity male Sister of Battle, we are soooo banking hard on this DEI and ESG scores, I can almost smell the stack of cashes.
@SATH-gd8eh
16 күн бұрын
It would be woke nonetheless
@user-eq2fp6jw4g
26 күн бұрын
Go Woke, Go Broke
@dannyslag
26 күн бұрын
Oh yes, GW is hurting financially so badly. Rofl.
@CookieManCookies
24 күн бұрын
@@dannyslag If you where in the quarterly earnings report, that's exactly what you'd notice. They're probably gunna be out of business in 2025.
@alephniguroth7105
23 күн бұрын
@@CookieManCookies dont threaten me with a good time, you are not a real fan of the hobby if you dont hate GW.
23 күн бұрын
@@dannyslag they are not that big
@kingorpawn
27 күн бұрын
It reminds of in the ‘90s how people used the word “poser” a lot. I also think people haven’t completely agreed on what “hobby tourist” means. I’m all for people coming into a hobby a checking things out and having fun with it but then there is another group being called tourists that I think are more akin to auditors. They show up with a check list of how they think things should be and demand conformity. Hobby auditors.
@MushieNino
27 күн бұрын
You might think of them as being 'bossy tourists' . No one really hates tourists, they can literally be the life blood of an area. But when you have a tourist come in and start telling you how to live your life, how to run your games, your head canon, etc. That's odious. Why did you come here, to this place, if not to enjoy this place as it is. The fact that it's different, from what you are used to, is part of the appeal. Of course, this thing is different then what you might be used to, that's why you came here to see it.
@JimHurst-UK
27 күн бұрын
Ah… I remember those days.. I think there has to be a campaign to bring back the ubiquitous use of “poser”.
@mrspeigel3593
27 күн бұрын
Activists..it's called being an activist
@Blaze_Raven
26 күн бұрын
@user-cf1ic2rc3r When tourists become the lifeblood of an area, that area becomes a husk of what it used to be.
@Kerath
26 күн бұрын
I quit GW part of the hobby like 6 months ago, they continue to prove that it was the right thing to do.
@blitzrw450
27 күн бұрын
My only question is - Who is this whole thing for? Who was GW aiming this whole thing at?
@Valea_alba
27 күн бұрын
Like duhh, it’s to get more females into the hobby you smelly chuddite.
@guruvedra
26 күн бұрын
This is for "modern audiece" of cource you silly manbaby. All twitter activists going spend ton of money of plastic toys now.
@IncredibleManx
26 күн бұрын
Me. They did it for me.
@spnked9516
26 күн бұрын
Theoretical broadest possible consumer base. It's basically a trap alot of companies fall into - they think that, of they water down their IP enough, they'll pull more and more people as everyone can find something they like. However, reality doesn't work like that and most companies just end up destroying the things they inherent.
@mattmark94
26 күн бұрын
Woke karens.
@ForTehNguyen
27 күн бұрын
it was the way they retconneed something over twitter on the weekend, then tried to gaslight you that they were always there. Then they didnt do anything for the actual women that have been with the custodes forever.
@parsath_2584
27 күн бұрын
Yeah it felt like a good opportunity to expand the lore. The Imperium is so desperate, that they changed their recruitment philosophy.
@clo8076
26 күн бұрын
It was even downright misogynist. The first female Custodes in the lore, quote, “Never could say no to that wintry smile.” While referencing a normal human man… WTF? Where’s that Custodes discipline? Wild… She deserved much better.
@theandy-christ3304
23 күн бұрын
Because GW has never done a retcon lol
@alephniguroth7105
23 күн бұрын
dont forget the posers harrasing the real women on the hobby for not liking the female custodes... calling them pick me and stuff for not falling in line...
@SATH-gd8eh
16 күн бұрын
It would still be woke no matter how they portray it
@bumgilligan
26 күн бұрын
You lie. You would 100% support fem marines and will when they inevitably happen.
@GlassHalfDead
24 күн бұрын
@@bumgilligan Yes, I would. Because the only valid reason for not having female space marines would be to make a point or artistic integrity, and GW does not have the ability to deliver on either of these things. Marines being male is in no way core to their identity, so them being female changes nothing about them.
@AlexanderForsman
26 күн бұрын
Using it to differenciate Custodes and Space Marine, backfired. Instead of being arcane beings formed from the best of the best, the are now just a vanilla "superhuman program" regardless of what they say. I do have a problem with people attacking nerds, calling the rightwing or "toxi masculinity", simply for them being invested in their hobby
@ghostrhinorhino4287
26 күн бұрын
See, that's the thing. you would think that. It would be the wokies/feminist orgame Journalist, that want to change the game. But no, it's the corporations itself. They're trying to slowly destroy or at least of erode. Everything that we love Star Trek, Harry Potter Star Wars ect So that there's nothing that has favoritism in your eyes of the masses. Big corporations are on a war path of destroying anything that is loved and liked by multiple generations to slander their image and values so that whenever they produce anything that is okay it is praised as if is god's own testament. Think of king Louis starving the French people. And then when all the french people come in to riot he made this giant fucking cake for them and they're so happy that they totally forgot that they're all starving. Modern socialism doesn't want you to like everything. They want you to hate everything so that you don't care when it burns all down. That's why I disagree with people leaving the hobby and letting the tourist take over. Cause we're giving them what they want. What they don't want is us. Having intellectual conversations about government philosophy corporations.
@ThrashRats
25 күн бұрын
I don't understand why you'd think they aren't still handpicked children to be trained and uplifted into being Custodes. What change, other than allowing females, was there for you to think this?
@joj3585
23 күн бұрын
@@ThrashRats I mean the reasonings for men being chosen for custodes and astartes is kinda grounded in a bit of reality, where men especially when going through puberty gain bone density and muscle mass, the selection process for astartes and custodes are about picking the strongest of mankind, you'd be getting the 99th percentile of men, because men are naturally stronger than women, women wouldnt be picked for these types of roles. its why you dont see females in special forces in real life.
@ThrashRats
23 күн бұрын
@joj3585 With space marines, the reason lies within the geneseed being based off the emperor's sons. A woman would either not survive the drastic changes (Like the majority of young male candidates) Or simply be changed in such a drastic way she would be unrecognizable from the rest. The marketing reason is that the original female space marine models in '85 didn't sell well enough in comparison to the standard. As for custodes the limitstion of strenght is pretty worthless. You mention puberty, yet both armies recruit way before this. Space Marines in youth and Custodes in infancy. Then there's the fact of Custodes being literally handcrafted. Why must you depend on puberty if you can implant grafted bone and muscle throughout the applicant's entire figure. Lastly, the reason SOBs have low female counts is because militaries have low female counts. You can't expect a 50/50 display when that is a portion of an 85/15 (Actual percentage on the US). And why the original percentage is like that, well that's another topic about how army enlistment is promoted and publicized to young men. But more often than not is a case by case.
@ghostrhinorhino4287
23 күн бұрын
@@ThrashRats You don't give the biggest heaviest gun to your smallest, slowest, weakest person. You give it to the biggest and fastest strongest person. You don't. Train the people that are sick and ill to be special forces. Simply put i've seen too many videos already of russians putting women in the front lines in Is ukraine as special forces. Wake up to reality, men and women are different. And you warning the subject. Women to war is the most backwards Thinking logic We'll get people killed, quit it... Do you even know why we play war games? Or how war game started out? It's supposed to give us a sense of realism in combat a sense of setting and Immersion. Ik It's a setting in the year 40000 with giant space bugs orks and elves. But the concept is still there. The most likely reason they're doing this is that all governments right now.Have been playing war games at a exponential level and back during World War 2 England when fighting the Germans, the women were playing war games in a group of women at college helped defeat the German U.Boats and submarine. So they're probably making war games more inclusive to women because we're most likely going to war soon.
@commandercostas
27 күн бұрын
My main issue with them from the start was GW pretending it's always been this way. Having the article admit it was a recent addition/change is nice. (also the lack of any models/heads/whatever to differentiate them from the dudes)
@GlassHalfDead
27 күн бұрын
I took it as rote that the answer was in-universe. We clearly know that it hasn't always been that way. So... a total non-issue. worth a discussion, but not the dumpster fire that warhammer became at that time.
@FestorFreak
27 күн бұрын
Pretty sure that tweet or whatever it was wasn't meant to "rewrite history" or "gaslight" as some idiots were saying, but was just an official statement stating that that is the new lore. The retcon is that famale custodes have always existed within the universe. They are not new to the characters in the setting itself, but they are new to us as fans of the setting. That's a retcon, not "lying to their fans." I just don't think it was explained well, and people will take any excuse they can to whine.
@commandercostas
27 күн бұрын
@@GlassHalfDead It was a very minor issue indeed
@simonlarge2052
27 күн бұрын
@@FestorFreak Yeah, people are dumb for taking a statement at face value
@mikefish1124
27 күн бұрын
You're a liar.
@theboredlich215
27 күн бұрын
I prefer the term Entitled Tourists. Most of us start as tourists, like what we see, and then get invested into it with time and money. Entitled Tourists will scream and beg for change without any real investment in the IP. I don't know why they do it, but I know listening to them will hardly ever bring about GOOD change. How would it? They are here for a week, think they know better than anyone that invested ludicrous amounts of time and money into it, and will forget about until it hits their news feed again how knows when.
@isaachunt6694
27 күн бұрын
Entitled tourists were the people that Dustborn was made for
@teejay1646
18 күн бұрын
Yeah except the writers decided to do it and always wanted that to be a part of the faction. This was not done because of anyone's "demands" it was a decision by the people who wrote the lore. Now enough being triggered
@nikomartinuzzi2032
26 күн бұрын
I don't like the idea of it but yet, here we are.
@GlassHalfDead
26 күн бұрын
@@nikomartinuzzi2032 that's about all we can say. GW will do what they want!
@SigfridSWE
26 күн бұрын
Boycott! We can boycott and send a messege
@AlexAlivan
27 күн бұрын
Oh yes, the female custodes propaganda. Because it worked very well the last time GW brought up this utter bs. Lets see them do it again!
@WolfTau
26 күн бұрын
You are hammering you fan base which is uncalled for. From everyone I know , they don’t have a problem with women. Most of these are gamers who have played for 18+ years. The problem is most gamers know Amazon mandated diversity. It’s on their website when they produce a show. It’s mandated. Also most people on the net have a lore issue. They broke cannon for DEI. That’s it, nothing else. No one is really going to leave the game but they are hurt and upset for the sake of the money and deal made with Amazon.
@scannerbarkly
26 күн бұрын
Everyone you know is his fan base? That's the freakiest Venn Diagram coincidence ever.
@IgenTilch
27 күн бұрын
The timing and motive are suspect as hell. If the societal landscape was different, and the introduction had been creative and honest. More people would have accepted the retcon. (I liked the idea of the Imperium losing so much ground to their enemies that they have to resort to taking more children, to the point of risking revolt and the extinction of several noble houses.)
@scannerbarkly
27 күн бұрын
People always cry about retcons. It really does't matter if they "accept" it or not because I don't think a single one of them actually stopped shoveling their cash into GW's pockets.
@timreeves
27 күн бұрын
That's like saying it's "suspect as hell" that racist jokes stopped after racism became a societal issue. would you say, in hindsight, stopping racist jokes was a good or bad thing?
@Crushanator1
27 күн бұрын
@@scannerbarklyOr they hadn't spent money in decades and are just rage farming clicks on KZitem, which felt like a non zero amount of the initial hate
@scannerbarkly
27 күн бұрын
@@Crushanator1 Rage cash is super easy to make on KZitem right now. Low effort crying is where the clicks are, no doubt.
@IgenTilch
27 күн бұрын
@@timreeves Red herring logical fallacy Try again
@thebattleofpelennorfieldsp6081
27 күн бұрын
Gap: the emperor is a 'nid.
@wellhungindung
27 күн бұрын
There is a Sisters of silence called Big Steve the Third.
@NDGRT-hv6yp
27 күн бұрын
I feel like most people that were upset about this werent sexist or biggots or whatever you wanna call people you disagree with But rather they were people unhappy with how GW dropped this No model, no teaser, no explanation Just boom female custodes Custodes have since Always been called a Brotherhood (and to those "well actually 🤓" quoting that One time Sanguinius saying "men and women in Gold" shocker but sister of silence are a thing) so this Is clearly a Major change This would be like if durring the pariah Nexus storyline they dropped in a single line that "oh yeah and then a few fleshy Necrontyr came along to Aid the silent king" like wow wow wow you cant drop that and not explain at least what that Is Personally i dont even care for custodes, i think they are Golden Mary sues Who Need to be humbled more often in the books But still this left a bad taste in my mouth because It was such a poorly made reveal, no explanations of where have they been or how the female custodes exist while making female marines Is such an issue in lore So of course It would leave some people kinda less sure about the stability of the lore if GW can Just Say "nuh uh" and not give anything else to it
@JamesSerapio
27 күн бұрын
You do realise that Brotherhood is just the default word on the english lexicon siblinghood is not a thing. Consider the Brotherhood of Mutants. Were Mystique, Destiny, Rogue, and Scarlet Witch not members because they are women? Everyone using "brotherhood" as proof of anything is grasping at straws.
@DmitriyIDK
27 күн бұрын
@@JamesSerapioehm, do you know a word “sisterhood” exists? I’m pretty sure brotherhood for the first interpretation is about some group of men, especially a religious one. In our days, yes we can use it freely, like you described. But I think description of Custodes as Brotherhood is not a casual talk and not a comics about superheroes, cause 40k always tried to use kinda flavourful language to give a certain “gothic” vibe.
@JamesSerapio
27 күн бұрын
@@DmitriyIDK no writer is going to say "brotherhood and sisterhood" or "brother/sister-hood" because that is clunky as goofy comes.
@koreyfulcher
27 күн бұрын
@@JamesSerapiothey literally use a play on Latin for brotherhood with adeptus custodes… same with adepta sorroratas being for sisterhood and they literally have a adeptum for a mixed gender group but they specifically used the term adeptus meaning brotherhood… they specifically mentioned they are hand picked first born noble sons like I swear people are pretending to be dumb or something there is verbatim evidence that GW tried gaslighting us 😅
@JamesSerapio
27 күн бұрын
@@koreyfulcher always mentions of that age old sacred canon of Warhammer that is eternal and never changes. Like the Dark Angels being Native American (2nd edition models even gave all deathwing feathers), or the primarchs just being the best soldiers among the marines, not literal sons of the Emperor. Or the custodes never leaving the imperial palace. Hell, your quoted canon is like under a decade old. The fluff always changes. Touch grass.
@Spardin
27 күн бұрын
wasnt a fan of the change felt pretty lazy and trying to score cheap points rather than going the full hog and have new fluff and models ready to go, am i gonna leave the hobby? nope plenty of changes in the past i didnt like and stuck around because i enjoy 99% of the stuff that happens. what was bad was the grief i got for daring to say i didnt like the change, there didnt seem to be a difference between people like myself who thought it was lazy etc and the people screaming DEI woke no woman allowed etc, I ended up being labled a nazi got called a bigot and every name under the sun. both extreme side of the "fight" are muppets
@Алексей545-т6б
27 күн бұрын
Well, it was DEI because it basicly bring nothing new into the setting or lore. Instead of develop actual female armies (SoB) or female parts of the army (in custodes case = Sisters of Silence) who already get vibes cool lore, their own unic role (which custodes are unable to do)...you create abomination for the sake of DEI points. It bring ZERO into the lore (as GW said - "they always been there" means they never did anything significant) or into the hobby (it is the same custodes just with tits) . Question is why GW went on femstodes rout (nobody ever ask them about) instead of developing Sisters of Silence (you know - actual women, with multiple cool characters loved by everyone)? Well, because Black Rock which stand behind all of this actually does not care about women. All they need is bring DEI into the hobby and destroy it from the inside
@1Linxer
26 күн бұрын
@@Алексей545-т6б exactly, and I for one was on the fence from leaving GW behind and this has pushed me into buying a 3d printer . they wont get any more of my money
@dakotavandervelde7319
25 күн бұрын
Andy is a Femstodes lover. Sorry bro but you get your boycott on my list of KZitemrs. You most likely get free merchandise from them or something cause who would want this. Disgusting. Do you actually love the hobby? Apparently not.
@alephniguroth7105
24 күн бұрын
the necron change was trying to do something good with the faction, it was unsavory for some but understandable, this change is just a checkbox they had to hamfist because investors told them to.
@Zayamad
27 күн бұрын
My issue has always been that the change has no storytelling value. In and of itself, the change has no value. Women being Custodes is not inherently an improvement. Why are you changing it? Is there an in universe reason for the change? Is this change improving the setting? It is obviously a change pushed by politics and not because they think it's genuinely a beneficial and reasonable change to the lore. Monastic Warrior Brotherhoods are just as valid as a tribe or army of Warrior Women. Both are fine. I would much prefer to see an expansion on the Sisters of Silence who already work with the Custodes.
@ajnazhot4195
27 күн бұрын
You know there are female warhammer player right? Apart, the only politics that companies understand is money "We inserted more female characters in AoS and more women are buying our shit? Lets try it in 40k!"
@ajnazhot4195
27 күн бұрын
@Zayamad You know there are female warhammer player right? Apart, the only politics that companies understand is money "We inserted more female characters in AoS and more women are buying our shit? Lets try it in 40k!" (I write it again because im not sure if you can see it without the @ sorry)
@an0nycat
27 күн бұрын
@@ajnazhot4195 nah.No women asked to make female custodes or female stormcast.
@ajnazhot4195
26 күн бұрын
@@an0nycat i didnt say they asked for it, what I say is that GW has notice that if they include good writted females in the "main character" factions more women buy their products. For example with the Stormcast in AoS. Now they are trying the same in 40k, not for politics but for money and new consumers
@Zayamad
25 күн бұрын
@@ajnazhot4195 You realize that a large chunk of female Warhammer players love Tyranids and Orks right? 2 factions that don't really have female models. Plenty of men like the Sisters of Battle despite the force being (almost) entirely female. People surprisingly can like and relate to things that are not exactly like them. The only possible reason this change happened is political pandering. If they wanted to push more female models and representation in a way that made sense in the context of the lore they could easily have expanded the Sisters of Silence and plenty of people would love that and have no issue with it. The reason this change is poorly received is because there are already women who work with the Custodes, it's not an improvement in any way mechanically, it was introduced via a story where the new girlboss Custodes beats all the stinky male Custodes in the Blood Games cus she is the bestest and on top of all that, no new models were created in line with the change, which means it is nothing but pandering. It's lazy and disingenuous.
@emperortyrannus6812
27 күн бұрын
A retcon for the progression of the story is fine and all, but what purpose does adding a female custodes add? They could very easily add them in now as an advancement is genetic engineering spearheaded by Guilliman to protect his father. People would have been fine with that
@Killer_Queen_bee
27 күн бұрын
Yea but instead they went with “they always been there “ route 🤣 imagine how much books they would have sold if they made a series about that
@spnked9516
26 күн бұрын
I disagree with retconning for the sake of story progresses being fine. Unlike Horus Heresy, 40k is a setting, first and foremost, not a narrative. It's fine if changes are made that enrich the setting (moving the necrons away from being mindless terminators is a good example), but as soon as you make changes that alter the fundamental framework of the setting you start running into a dangerous spot. Take the return of the Primarchs as an example. Awful change. 40k is effectively being turned into HH 2.0 and pushed towards an inevitable endpoint. That endpoint culminates in 40k getting its own End Times event, and being replaced by a much looser and less defined AoS-style "sequel" (Primaris Marines were the test run for this, seeing if Marine players would rebuy their armies - which they mostly did).
@brokenhalo2001
25 күн бұрын
@@spnked9516 Thats it, its a big universe with lots of stuff going on at any given time. Humanity had its chance and we blew it and blew it HAAARD. Now we are just fighting in the crumbling ruins as the imperium slowly slowly dies. But now yea my god the primarchs coming back and with little to no build up lol. 3gathering storm books kinda covering gullyman coming back right ? I dont even remember and i cant even buy them anymore lol. And The lion got ONE book. Good job gw.
@DungusDingus
25 күн бұрын
I now assume this means the players of Custodes will now be 50% women?
@lukashaug5107
14 күн бұрын
basically i dont rly care bout female custodians, although there r 4 points which each on their own wouldnt rly bother me but in combination they DO 1. custodean main attribute is being physically as strong and big as possible , so using female DNA wouldnt make sense. 2. custodes are closer to the emperors gene code than normal astartes.... which makes it impossible to mix a XX DNA in cuz that would move the DNA away from the emperors.. 3. that female custodes appear at these woke times has a bitter taste cuz it shows that they r just adding it to be mainstream and not cuz they had put thought in it and it also shows that they give a shit about theyr customer but r more interested in the image that ppl who dont even know what WH is are happy. 4. its genetacly impossible to merge female and male DNA .. it just doesnt work ( pls somebody say that each human has just that from his mother and father, u would disqualify yourself for an answer for talking bout st u cleary dont understand ) 5. not serious bout that one but still wanna mention it.. by doing this shit they probably buried the announced WH series from amazon cuz Henry wont take that shit ;) and know lets all grab our brushes or dice and do the stuff that we love ASTARTES LIFE MATTERS !!!!
@Алексей545-т6б
27 күн бұрын
Well, it was DEI because it basicly bring nothing new into the setting or lore. Instead of develop actual female armies (SoB) or female parts of the army (in custodes case = Sisters of Silence) who already get vibes cool lore, their own unic role (which custodes are unable to do)...you create abomination for the sake of DEI points. It bring ZERO into the lore (as GW said - "they always been there" means they never did anything significant) or into the hobby (it is the same custodes just with tits) . Question is why GW went on femstodes rout (nobody ever ask them about) instead of developing Sisters of Silence (you know - actual women, with multiple cool characters loved by everyone)? Well, because Black Rock which stand behind all of this actually does not care about women. All they need is bring DEI into the hobby and destroy it from the inside
@godmode9913
23 күн бұрын
The woke keep saying not every game is for us , well this game is not for them, we have been so starved for a amazing masculine bro fest for so long this is a breath of fresh air, they hate when men come together to celebrate brotherhood and a good old fashioned power fantasy. never be ashamed to be masculine and always look out for each other and have each other’s backs. Bros together strong, bros alone weak. FOR THE EMPEROR BROTHERS ✊
@87peterjames
24 күн бұрын
Was the reason I canceled my warhammer plus subscription. Also the reason I will be clicking the don’t recommend your channel on KZitem.
@Dagrd
26 күн бұрын
Let go of this Faction, its not worth it, this Faction used to look Regal, now is not 🤣 it's a 🤡 show they're just a a Discounted Stormcast , Lol Intern? Amazon? Its GW all along.
@nosbigdamus9665
23 күн бұрын
What are the fans of Games Workshop ? Who does Games Workshop get their money from ? "Fans of the game" Not people who only talk about what they want different
@mr.s2046
26 күн бұрын
Srrt I can't behind this femstodes thing. That would be like if G.R.R. Martin came out and said oh by the way, there's women in the nights watch and always have been. And I don't want to hear the excuse oh GW retconns all the time. True, but not like this. You start retconning what made a faction or story what it is, and then you have no story. Look at Star Wars . Palpatine comes back from the dead, made anakin and Luke's fate of the chosen one non even matter.
@strzelamcementemzlokcia1030
24 күн бұрын
How is allowing female custodes going against the idea of custodes? It was specified that Marines need to be male, but custodes were never specifed to be of certain sex, moreover they were expanded upon in like 8th edition if i remeber? So its not really retconning decades old lore.
@mr.s2046
24 күн бұрын
@strzelamcementemzlokcia1030 kzitem.info/news/bejne/xJ96mohosaOUh6Qsi=Fon32Ms8YxxLuuLv heres your answer . Male terran born nobles of Terra. So yes, it has been specifically stated multiple times.
@strzelamcementemzlokcia1030
24 күн бұрын
@@mr.s2046 My bad then, didnt know about that. Still its not a big deal to me, however im not that involved W40k anymore, and didnt plan on supporting GW with my money anyway so its not my fight.
@mr.s2046
24 күн бұрын
@strzelamcementemzlokcia1030 I respect that. I actually got out of 40k half way threw 9th myself and just been playing 30k and nercomunda. The lesser games don't get messed with weirdly like they do in 40k.
@serarthurdayne9490
27 күн бұрын
Anyone who’s against female Custodes just hates women? Jesus. Maybe if you actually ever met a woman in real life you’d realise that they are in fact different to men. Therein lies the real objection to this latest 40K lore retcon.
@AVhq11
26 күн бұрын
Great video. Glad to see that there's one Warhammer channel on KZitem that isn't opportunistically rage-farming. To be honest i generally watch your warmachine stuff, but this whole debate had been plastered all over social media a while back, and even reached warmachine community. And i must admit, when i saw the title of this video i was still a bit worried. Glad to see that logic and chill prevailed.
@GlassHalfDead
24 күн бұрын
@@AVhq11 Despite this video, I generally don't like getting into the controversial drama topics, hence not covering it last time. But it seems the ragebaiter tubers from last time didn't latch on to it this time, so I escaped unscathed (umm, well, actually, this is my most downvoted video ever and has lost me the most subscribers of any video ever, but that's expected). I just think it's interesting to look into a hobby that has been dominated by one demographic for so long as it tries to allow others to find themselves within their universe. Warmachine has plenty of rep in the warcasters of course and is just generally much better in terms of funky fantasy races which I feel people can connect to much easier. Regardless, I'm not too fussed who in 40k can be whatever gender.
@AVhq11
24 күн бұрын
@@GlassHalfDead I'm sorry to hear that you lost subscribers by essentially pointing out history of 40k lore, and encouraging people to chill and be open-minded. Although i wish i could say I'm surprised. So i just wanted to say, i do appreciate that you didn't hide away from that hateful backlash. Of course warmachine have been having its issues too, (some cringy advertising early on for example), but my experience with both communities was really quite contrasting. Although, just for the sake of transparency, I only found warmachine 4 years ago, whereas I getting into Warhammer about 10 years ago. Maybe it's a time thing, but it seems to me that at least Warhammer community haven't changed much. However so far I have never seen folk painting their warmachine models with 1940s Germany symbols... While with Warhammer, i was getting abuse (from some really colourful characters) just for simply politely and respectfully reminding people that page community rules state that you shouldn't post pictures of aforementioned historical symbols on 40k models. And that's on top of my experiences with "jokes" about different nationalities, immigration, or my ethnicity I got literally from day one in games workshop store. Similarly, my wife (who actually got me into the hobby), had her own series of unpleasant experiences with arrogant, callous and gatekeeping attitudes in the warhammer community. None of which we had ever experienced with warmachine. So we gradually drifted away from Warhammer, and although fomo policies and frustrating inbalance between factions (number of models, frequency of releases, competitiveness etc) had been the final straw, I must admit Warhammer community’s toxicity made a choice to shift to Warmachine a lot simpler.
@majortom7186
27 күн бұрын
8:15 the perfect example of the gaps is the two 'lost' Astartes legions.
@RoadDeerGames
26 күн бұрын
What if one lost legions is just straight up female? Like the primach was even female and that’s why it was secret
@Littlecowardgaming
26 күн бұрын
@@RoadDeerGames Pretty sure its been stated that all primarchs were sons and so was the astartes. I don't think you could make any of the existing astartes (or custodes) female without retconning stuff, which they already are. A simple way would've just been to make new lore about a new chapter or organization of female marines or something of the like. Maybe some new experiment with their own traits and abilities. But naaah, gotta take something everyone already loves and insert our new changes into.
@Estabancortezthe3rd
26 күн бұрын
@Littlecowardgaming "The emperor in his hubris, arrogance, and self-obsession refused to accept that he had sired a daughter, and cast her out amongst the stars and had all records of her expunged, burying the secret of gene seed ovaries in the deepest corners of the black vaults." Ta da, I made it work. That will be one black library contract please.
@DevDog98
22 күн бұрын
@@Estabancortezthe3rd doesnt work because the primarchs are test tube babies. he would literally have to purposely make the primarch a female himself and then say "nah second thought fuck that".
@ericcreager51
27 күн бұрын
All this started because of an Amazon Prime TV show in which they didn’t let good ol Henry do his thing and make them money. If you want to focus on female characters, you could easily just have sisters in which one is a Sister of Silence and the other is a Sister of Battle going back and forth between what they are dealing with or just bring in Greyfax as a main character for it. I’ve seen people make custom female chapters, custom gay chapters, custom everything chapters….. the part of the hobby that allows you to make your army “however” you want has never been controlled by lore…
23 күн бұрын
all this started in 2016
@ArborRails
27 күн бұрын
Changing custodes into women was just low effort capitulation and totally disingenuous. If GW actually wanted to introduce more diversity into the 40k setting they would have to spend some money to develop new female factions or update existing ones, ideally both.
@realphoenix06
27 күн бұрын
And you would have complained about that too.
@alephniguroth7105
24 күн бұрын
@@realphoenix06 are you nuts??? i wouldve liked an entire novel series about sisters of silence, i already enyojed watchers of the throne, they have a connection with the more ancient selenar cult we dont know much about its ripe to explore, please stop believing the lies of those that say fans hate women, we hate posers that want to undermine the hobby and hate GW because they're sellouts.
@bergstro
27 күн бұрын
I don’t think the problem was ever really female custodes, but rather the idea that Amazon was forcing the change solely for DEI check-the-box purposes.
@mikefish1124
27 күн бұрын
To anyone who believes that to be an actual reason? Lowest IQ of low-IQ takes.
@matts1166
27 күн бұрын
I would have preferred keeping the Custodes all male, but the inclusion of female Custodes doesn't really anger me. It did have hints of virtue signaling. I'll even be making some female Custodes (using some female Stormcast, first-born marine arms, Blood Angel decorative shoulder pads, and female heads). However if they ever do this to Space Marines I'm going to have a much stronger opinion.
@Cirac1
27 күн бұрын
Good thing its just an idea and not based in reality. Its like when someone on 4chan just flat out made up that Cavill left the show over female custodes - and a bunch of idiots believed them and ran with it.
@scannerbarkly
27 күн бұрын
You sound like you have suffered serious brain damage.
@timreeves
27 күн бұрын
@@matts1166 You think Cawl is sitting around thinking "well, i managed to force a dozen extra organs into making grotesque uber humans, but tits, tits are just impossible to work with."
@legozackproduct111
26 күн бұрын
Im surprised the female custodes didn't start twerking in front of the space marines to assert dominance after demanding to speak to the chapters Manager.
@Gortboy2k11
25 күн бұрын
You're a weird person, aren't you? Like people find you uncomfortable to be around.
@prowled
26 күн бұрын
blowing up the "we don't know much about custodians". Seriously, there is no value of making a custodian female. There is enough primer in the lore to hammer down the nail that Custodians or "the brotherhood of demigods". The sons of the nobles of terra, is not a huge gap or a small gap that you can insert a female into because it does not say "the congregation of demigods", it does not say the children of the nobles of terra. Gaps are there because they feel that this should fill it with something that makes sense in the lore. If you change a story, regressing in other words, it looses value. The words you have written previously then need to have a VERY, _V.E.R.Y_ good reason to be rewritten. Female custodes "are fine" is just the most surface level argument you could make, and you are in the embarrasing position of having made a youtube video stating it. Either you have to have the position that stories, lore and fiction needs to have a central cannon that you can base your fantasy world on, unless you want orcs to be..... families now... then you are just a spawn of chaos wanting chaos for the sake of it, not seeing value in maintaining value which increases by looking forward with the _main_ story, and not digressing into making shit idea like forcing women into custodes, because "it's so mysterious". They HAVE the sisters of scilence... they have the adepta sororitas, why then, must you force the custodes to be women? There is no fundament in the lore, and doing so seems like a slippery slope to add whatever policy a company with billionairs feel like should be included, despite the fact it destroys the lore. No, this is not just "women bad" this is me fearing what they will do next.
@Gortboy2k11
25 күн бұрын
Female custodes are canon and have always existed in imperial history. Check the new codex.
@prowled
25 күн бұрын
@@Gortboy2k11 hey Gortboy, you might read a book that says only fish one day. But the next day someone says it says cat, and when they say that, you think "wow, what an asshole, that guy is a fucking idiot". Listen, just because someone sat down and changed something, does not rewrite history, you can sit there with your ass opinion all you want. I have read that it is in fact only male custodes since the first mention of them. In fact, the emperor made sure to make the astartes male, made sure to make it clear that it only suits men, and made all the primarks male.... now here we go, what the fuck do you think makes custodes females when NO MENTION EVER was made to give you evidence of them being women. So no, it is not lore, it is a cooked egg when i asked for beef. Go sitt in a corner.
@nikkotan2840
23 күн бұрын
No wonder their market share comes crashing down..
@amoralsupport672
20 күн бұрын
Their revenue has doubled since 2020. They have done nothing but make money hand over fist. For what is a niche hobby and like 2 franchises they are doing extremely well.
@rylion2770
27 күн бұрын
Dear lord GW management is stupid and weak.
@patricknilsson4360
26 күн бұрын
You need help.
@killteamken5997
27 күн бұрын
Tosser not tourist 😂
@MDRLOz
27 күн бұрын
Mostly I feel this was an Ok video but its a bit sad to see you spend a lot of time saying how it is bad to be indiscriminately throwing around the word “tourist” while you also throw around ”left wing” and “right wing” as pejoratives. Any person can hold a mix of views and just because they do or not like female custodes, that doesn't make the left or right. We should keep politics tics separate from hobbies. There will be left wing people who do and dont like female custodes, there will be centrist people who do and don't like custodes and there will be right wing people who do and don’t like female custodes. Left and right wing Are already garbage monolith terms already but to see them used in this context is just saddening.people can hold a wide, intricate and diverse set of thoughts and ideas in their heads. So I feel you could have made a better video with this if you just were a little more careful with your own speech as well. Practice what you preach my dude. Now lets get back to plastic miniatures! Hive storm release date when?!?!?
@kalebgonzales4009
26 күн бұрын
Female custodes would have been ok if they were presented in a new scenario that would make sense to add. The lore stands that the male heirs of aristocracy are to be made into custodes. Hence *”S O N S”* of the emperor as well.
@johnnnysilverhand9819
26 күн бұрын
Tithe Episode 2 has the female custodes lead character ordering a Space Marine captain around like an imperial guardsman and the space marine having to obey. Great animation and action, but that was a bit on the nose…
@alephniguroth7105
24 күн бұрын
They relish on that shit, hiding behind the shield of plausible deniability while laughing, they know what they did putting a girlboss in charge and talking down to a manlet (in comparison) and in their sick mind they enjoy saying they havent done anything, we've seen it countless times this past decade, truly disgusting behaviour.
@horrorfan117
23 күн бұрын
@@alephniguroth7105 Ah yes. The well establish cabal of shadowy figure meeting in a board room while cackling. "What shall we do this time to ruin a franchise." "I know. We shall put a woman in a position of authority, and make them talk down... to a man! It's genius!" Christ man get up and go outside. The paint fumes are starting to kill the few brain cells you have left.
@amoralsupport672
20 күн бұрын
@@alephniguroth7105 If it was a male custodes being a dick would you be so massively fucking butthurt?
@albertp3721
26 күн бұрын
Powerful Stunning Brave
@HuntingHeresy
26 күн бұрын
They didn't walk back on anything. -> They did not say ALL Custodes are recruited from sons of noble houses. The argument against female Custodes is the equivalent of the US Army stating marines are recruited from the top male candidates from American high schools. This does NOT mean they aren't also recruiting top female candidates from American high schools, merely affirming they ARE recruiting top male candidates. Assuming female Custodes is impossible is abductive reasoning based on a few statements.
@SgtHouse
27 күн бұрын
I dont mind female custodians, what I do mind is the retcon and the blatant lies to their customers who know more of the lore than they do.
@Machine_Cult
26 күн бұрын
Don't change the sculpts and I don't see what the problem is, don't see why the armour would look different externally.
@reclaw1000
26 күн бұрын
There's so many better ways they could have done this, but they just had to shoehorn it in. GW gets no more money from me. 3D printer go brrrrrrrrr
@BVargas78
9 күн бұрын
Servitor: The palace maintenance is completed, sir. Female Custodes: ITS MA’AM 😡
@Retrofun69
26 күн бұрын
I still paint minis and play wargames regularly. I just dont touch anything GW.
@PrimeAdvance
26 күн бұрын
I'm out. This is the last straw. Dont get me wrong 3D printing and Ill keep playing with the models I have but I'm not supporting 40K anymore.
@dannyslag
26 күн бұрын
Wow, you're so fragile that you're throwing a tantrum about custodes with sweater meat?
@LaMOi1
25 күн бұрын
I’m new to the hobby…. But I think it’s pretty cowardly. As it’s so obviously pandering to Amazon overlords because they probably showed them a vault of money they can have IF they will make additions to the lore which line up with Amazons inclusivity mandate….
@guruvedra
26 күн бұрын
I personally don't really care, not like GW can hurt lore more ther heresy books already did, but let's not deceive ourselfs, this is not about representation, bring move girls into hobby, etc. Activists always want insert woman into SM club(yes custodes is bigger SM in different armor), they don't care about sisters, don't care about that women in position of power all over imperium, no they just want female SM. And female custodes have no sence other then bend the knee. And yes it suck.
@scelonferdi
26 күн бұрын
The entire idea of the space Marines being mal only is their enhancement process being incompatible with a female physique. XY Trans female or non-binary Marines would probably fine (unless they transition in to physically changing ways pre augmentation). For Custodes this doesn't apply as they're hand crafted and the augmentation process is individualized anyway.
@bigboi7817
24 күн бұрын
I dont want to play female superhumans. I dont know anyone that does. Most people I know either play marines, guard or xenos. I dont know anyone with an SoB list or a heavy use of SoS. I know 1 custodes player and recently we niggle him about his army being women and it ticks him off. The 1 woman I know who plays plays nids. Maybe someone at gw has an amazon fetish? I dont know anyone who buys or plays SoB or SoS. I dont know who theyre marketing to but I dont get it.
@epiccthulu
7 күн бұрын
its hilarious watching fake fans who weren’t even in the fandom for 5yrs acting as if GW betrayed them xD They weren’t here long enough to even matter xD
@LionelKnight
23 күн бұрын
Well, I guess its great for you people who get your politics into the hobby. But for me, I can see where this road is going. Space Marine 2 is last dollar that Games Workshop will get from me. I will not fund the dismantling of a universe that I love so much. I will enjoy all the lore from before this point, and no more. Hope it was worth it GW.
@JACEMRYJAW
25 күн бұрын
Ever since I heard about female Custodes, and considering im not really in the fandom, part of me thinks that people don't care much that there are female Custodes. They're upset that it was just stated, out of nowhere, with no prior hinting or allusion to it. It feels like its just DEI action more than anything else. "There have always been female Custodes." It would feel super jarring, when there was no example prior to the news. If there was a single book, a single comic, a single reference to it prior to the news, this would not be nearly as controversial.
@mysteidolon8850
25 күн бұрын
Congratulations you 've been retcon. 823 dislikes! That's a mark 09/06/2024.
@louieluigi3914
26 күн бұрын
Honestly. I don't like this change, but i know there's really nothing stopping GW from making the change.
@nkari8971
25 күн бұрын
Nope, Dont gaslight ppl saying they hate women because they object to GW changing established lore thats just silly and quite unfair. We dont want warhammer "wokified".. thats all.. Keep the lore and vocabulary the same as it has been.. stop putting new speak in.. the customer base does _not_ want that, as has been shown time and time again in other franchises and it will be shown here to. We just dont want GW to make the same mistakes that say Disney has made in regards to "the message".. There is no hate.. just because you dislike something doesnt mean you have a uncontrollable hatred for something.. that is again.. gaslighting..
@CallmeScott67
24 күн бұрын
So long Warhammer+. The disrespect and gaslighting has pushed me to drop my subscription.
@kayomayo1492
25 күн бұрын
I personally dont mind. Female custodes seem cool. I just think it was not the most needed thing due to the fact that we had the sisters of silence. But if custodes players like the idea, then all power to them! From a tabletop standpoint, they should probs just be a custodes but just a different looking varient, no chainge in stats from a normal custodes.
@alexanderwulff7805
26 күн бұрын
My honest Opinion is the fact that i don't care about it. But they fucked up in communication. Why they didn't told a Story about a woman who is new to the ranks because of New techniques and make their way up in the ranks.
@lukashaug5107
14 күн бұрын
just wonderin.. would a female custodes who hast her oestrogen glands boosted and multiplied and everything in her body beeing bigger and more being on a never ending period ?
@MrBenaire
25 күн бұрын
I find most 40k fans are fine with women playing 40k only the tiniest of a part of 40k fans hate women. It just some people seem to be coming into the hobby wanting to change it.
23 күн бұрын
I don't trust someone who have funklepoops under his back
@DERADI30
27 күн бұрын
Sorry ,but that rant on the term "hobby tourist" was weird AF. What it means is: you are an outsider criticising things by how they appear to you, when they are the way they are for a reason, that you just can't see from the outside. It's a term that means that, but condensed into two words. You can't just say "everyone in the world is using that term wrong except for me", that's not how language works.
@omnissiahGaspar
27 күн бұрын
sure, but the meaning has essentially changed to 'person who has different political opinions that interact with this hobby than me', it also is used in such a pretentious and elitist way that discourages people trying to get into the hobby. I've only ever seen it used within the hobby itself, not to outsiders trying to impose their views onto it or whatever you claim it means
@Cirac1
27 күн бұрын
No it doesnt. Its used as a derogatory term for people that someone things doesn't belong in the hobby. That the hobby somehow means less to them "I'm the real fan! You're a fake fan!"
@scannerbarkly
27 күн бұрын
That's some nice made up shit trying to explain away cunts being cunts. lol
@ForTehNguyen
27 күн бұрын
tourist means they are just showing up because something got popular, passing through, make a bunch of complaints, they generally do not know or care to understand the background of what they are complaining about, dont intend to stick around, and as a result they dont care about the hobby. Like an actual tourist that's why that exact word is used to describe them. That's why you dont appease tourists. They are literally there to disrupt and complain and in the end won't stick around.
@noblegalifreyan4551
27 күн бұрын
Tourists are people who come into a fandom recently after a major influence moment like a movie, video game or viral sensation. Much like tourists in real life they spend tons of money but they tend to trash the place they visit and leave it in a worse state.
@imdeaded
24 күн бұрын
im going to save so much money now. wonder what ill spend it on..........
@hugomanningham8722
20 күн бұрын
I'm selling my armies the game aesthetics have been going down the drain over the past few years, be it models or lore.
@ghostwood9174
23 күн бұрын
Loving the river of entitled neck beard tears flowing as a result from a unisex toy line getting a retcon.
@Damnedlegion40k
26 күн бұрын
Suffer not the xenos to live or the Deathwatch a codex 😂
@iloveplayingpr
23 күн бұрын
I have no problems with female custodians.
@silkyjohnson4208
26 күн бұрын
Glad ive never gotten into minis i have however bought like 100 books lmao
@claydud271
25 күн бұрын
What a hot take if you don’t like the lore u must hate women,I have never seen anyone that says they hate female custodians due to hating women
@jaymaxwell8645
19 күн бұрын
11:37 I miss heard this as "rage bate" and honestly I still think it works.
@quanghuynguyenang8455
24 күн бұрын
I think we should force them to make male Sisters of Battle to make the wokies mad
@godmode9913
25 күн бұрын
Custodians are meant to be the strongest possible and I’m sorry but surely a male custodian would be stronger than a female custodian ? There is actually more pure female armies than pure male armies in 40 k . Who actually asked for female custodians?
@brokenhalo2001
25 күн бұрын
the same people who cried for things like Concord and Dustborn and then never actually buy product or really care after they get changes
@godmode9913
23 күн бұрын
@@brokenhalo2001 imagine demanding changes in games you’re not even going to purchase or play lol. Hopefully developers will start to realise real gamers don’t want this we just want good games
@CookieManCookies
24 күн бұрын
Either make them hot, or no more warhammer purchases, period.
@IsCarryingACuriousMap
26 күн бұрын
Tourism part was classic! 😂
@arbitrary_mike7833
26 күн бұрын
Custodes are not just bigger and better space marines. That’s a fundamental misunderstanding of the current lore regarding their creation. The idea was embraced by marine fans because they can’t accept that they’re not the biggest and baddest soldiers in the Imperium.
@TheRealTri
27 күн бұрын
Never really cared. I'll keep playing the game
@imightjustmakeit
25 күн бұрын
Nobody agreed it was a cool story about the nuke
@georgeinia852
17 күн бұрын
Go woke go broke...GW will learn this lesson to
@roamirzul1878
24 күн бұрын
😂 the tau in the back gives him away
@Greggor295
24 күн бұрын
I feel like this is the Horus heresy among the fandom, but are we the heretics or the loyalists? I’m not sure 😂 we need to continue to fight back and boycott what we love. To protect the franchise (even though I feel like we’ve already lost at this point)
@alephniguroth7105
24 күн бұрын
Games workshop arent the good guys...
@Greggor295
24 күн бұрын
@@alephniguroth7105 I agree to that, but some would say that “the woke message” is ‘good’. Like a false god/idle. Plus we are the ones rebelling against them so I’m not sure who’s the loyalist and who’s the heretics 😂
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