I love this discussion! I had an Arabic teacher who was Professor of Semitic languages at NYU. He identified as a Palestinian Jew and had a great love of the Arabic language. He left Jerusalem in 1948 because he said he didn't like all the "foreigners" who had taken over Palestine. I know many Americans who are astonished that there are Palestinian Christians. I don't even try to explain about Arab Jews!
@155stw
3 ай бұрын
Why? This is fantastic. He is like Avi Shlaim, except that Avi is an Iraqi Jew.
@MawariMawarisan
3 ай бұрын
Here we go, Palestinian Jew not Arab Israeli - what an idiotic way to call oneself self.
@ruthmoushabeck6971
3 ай бұрын
@@MawariMawarisan He was born in Palestine and had a Palestinian passport. He came to the US just after the State of Israel was created.
@meme-rx9ht
2 ай бұрын
was that the great ??? omg i've forgotten his name but he taught arabic to decades of kids from bay ridge. i was in his classes at nyu in the 80's and a tape i've saved says "arabic language kapliwatsky" ?? my favorite, indelible, story about him is one time a lady in the back asked a question about how something was said in the accent of xxxx and the accent of yyyy and he shut her down, saying "madam, this is not a school for spies." he was tall and thin and grey by the time i knew him. please write back.
@meme-rx9ht
2 ай бұрын
she was obviously israeli, the lady who asked that question. most students were palestinian.
@doomedsunshine
2 ай бұрын
I'm black, but I have a few Palestinian friends. It's been such an eye opener learning about Arab culture and also seeing some similarities between our struggles. So crazy that mainstream U.S. culture doesn't create enough space for you all, because there's so much we could all learn from Arab culture Like, just the hospitality I've received in my Arab and/or Palestinian friends' homes is unmatched. (will be stealing the maqluba recipe, sorry not sorry...)
@mkadi70
2 ай бұрын
Follow the money...where does the money to MSM come from? Arms companies and companies related to security...that is one reason
@norahmcg09
3 ай бұрын
It's crazy I'm Irish American but there was a lot in here that resonated me. There is a book called How the Irish Became White. The similarities and the differences are fascinating. thank you guys
@Bettybaminjerusalem
2 ай бұрын
As an Israeli arab jew myself who grew up in Jerusalem too and is also half kurdish iraqi half Iraqi jew, I am so angry at the way she present things!! I agree with nothing she says and it doesn't represent Israel at all or most of Israel's mizrahi arab jews!!!. I grew up on arabic culture love the food, music hospitality and many of the traditions but my grandparents never forgot despite their longing the difficult times in the 40's the farhud riots preplanned with the natzis, how they were told daily that soon Hitler will come to kill all of them and how badly they wanted to escape, my grandmother's brother sat 3.5 years in iraqi jail just for being a jew until the jewish agency managed to bring him to Israel. They had to leave all of their belonggings behind and all of them came except for less than 10 rich people who stayed, why do you think that is?!! There was discrimination in the beagining for the first 2 generations until we all got mixed and talk against racisem, but I never herd anyone says anything about me being less than others, most of the jews living in Israel are arab decent and look very much like Palestinians.Almost half of the country are left wing liberals who belive in the 2 state solution and want to live side by side in peace but we also want them to stop terrorising us to leave and accept the exsistance of Israel as a jewish state.We have a long connection to this land too and we are not colonizers, this is the mispreception about us, we have no where else to go back too, Israel is our only home. The way she present things is compleetly distorted and twisted!!!
@NoMan-pp1jq
2 ай бұрын
@@Bettybaminjerusalemwe used to believe what you said was true but we are about 9 months wiser now so not really sure why you are still keeping up the act but I do appreciate it. Brings back nostalgia
@hachemdjeffal6545
2 ай бұрын
@@BettybaminjerusalemI want to believe you and let’s say it is true, how does that justify taking somebody else’s land ? I’m sure you agree that Germany did far far far worse to the Jewish community…… shouldn’t us Jews go there and take half of their land…?
@Bettybaminjerusalem
2 ай бұрын
@@hachemdjeffal6545 1. The jews that came before 1948 didn't steal anybody's land they bought it (the land that usualy people were happy to sell was mostly at the coast area, because it was swamp land full of meleria. Many times they had to flee during riots of muslims trying to kill them and than returned to their homes when things came dawn. 2. After 1948 they lost a war they have started and lost territory, the vast majority left because they escaped from harms way, some were told to leave by the arab leadership (amd were promised to return soon after the arab armies will come and kill all the jews there), and very few weren't allowed to return to their homes by the jews. You can read Benni Moris's books on this subject. I am not justefiying anything, I am saying the jews have a very important connection to the land too. The jewish leadership was allways whilling to negotiate to devide the land, the arabs didn't agree even to 85-15 percent (the phill commition proposal) please check these historic facts. The conflict is about Palestinians not whilling to accept the exsistance of a jewish state along side them. Jews were allways living here, under muslim Empires they were a minority but they allways had a strong connection to the land, they tryed to return and create a state even after the spanish explotion, many don't know that. I worked in turism and love history, after October 7th I did a long research about the naratives and I am more zionist than ever. I think it is very important that Israel will continue to exsist, but still belive one day there will be peace between Palestinians and Israelies and the conflict will end. The 2 state solutuon is the only possible solution, the whole idea of a one democratic state to us all is an illution to end Israel and is not a possible solution for the simple reason that both sides are not intrested in this solution.
@Bettybaminjerusalem
2 ай бұрын
@@hachemdjeffal6545 I've answered but my answer was deleted.
@hindaissaouibennani3641
3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for this conversation. My favorite so far. I am Moroccan, and recently I said "Israel took all our Jews away" to my Ethiopian friend. And she said "us too".
@lamegalectora
3 ай бұрын
Israel ‘took’ your jews away?!?!?! Their lives were made impossible and they were either expelled or given no other choice. How can you guys be so ignorant?
@buttertandoorichicken
2 ай бұрын
India also had Jews and it makes me sad knowing there aren’t many left there. Especially the Cochin Jews who were from a region in India that I have roots from too :(
@Femmeaesthetic
2 ай бұрын
“Israel took all our Jews away” I don’t know where this narrative came from since many Muslims kicked out Mizrahi Jews from there country who ended up as refugees!
@mkadi70
2 ай бұрын
@@buttertandoorichicken As an Iraqi where the grand son of my mother's neighbor, and her first childhood friend became the enemy I can relate to that
@ScenariosOfDrea
2 ай бұрын
Israel didn't take any "Jews away" what an ignorant comment, many Jews from Ethiopia and many places live in Israel because they weren't safe from where they were Ethiopia kicked them out. Same goes with Morooccan
@amandaevesloane1200
3 ай бұрын
Love love love the discussion at the end about the Jewish spirituality tradition and the life force being more powerful than fear ❤
@SJDC9911
2 ай бұрын
Best episode yet. Still waiting for you to teach us more yiddish 😊 -much love from a Palestinian viewer P.S. iraqi jewish arab food is awesome, free kurdistan too. One love 🇵🇸
@the_blue_clerk
3 ай бұрын
Sammy is so (relatively) quiet during these conversations. I appreciate his dropping of history and stats when he does pipe up though! That said, @ 45:19, the preliminary beliefs of Zionism were always rooted in Eurocentric supremacy. It simply USED the desire for a safe place for Jews as a means to enact its supremacist (and anti-Jewish) goals. I’m thinking of the scholarship of Shohat, Shlaim, Pappe, etc. I appreciate Hadar clarifying that later on.
@7135HOLLY
3 ай бұрын
Zionism has nothing to do with "Eurocentric supremacy" - that's something you tell yourself to justify your hate.
@lamegalectora
3 ай бұрын
Nonsense! Go to Israel, see for yourself, talk to people there.
@LifeofPani
3 ай бұрын
I agree with you @@7135HOLLY
@imapandaperson
3 ай бұрын
@@7135HOLLY Herzl, one of the founders of Zionism, referred to Zionism and Israel as a colonial project and counted himself amongst the European colonizers of the day. Whether Ashkenazi Jews consider themselves European or not, the founders of Zionism were not shy about Zionism being eurocentric or colonial --- it's not "justifying hate" to know and understand basic history and nor is it anti-Semitic to oppose Zionism. Jews have always lived in the region alongside Muslims and Christians in relative peace --- pre-zionism and pre-Israel. No one is denying that. But it isn't anti-semitic to oppose the concept of Zionism or to understand the ideology's roots in European colonization.
@SJDC9911
2 ай бұрын
I agree. Sammy is kinda quiet, but maybe just listening and processing.
@AndieWalsh333
3 ай бұрын
I LOVED this. Such a good episode. I feel like this podcast is so impactful, I hope it gains the reach it deserves.
@dinuahmed5876
3 ай бұрын
Feeling incredible kinship as a practicing Muslim with Hadar's words at the close, esp. with the idea that true faith and God consciousness is love and could never underlie brutality of the likes we are witnessing. Also felt the heaviness of her words regarding the erasure of God as a trauma response to the Holocaust. Thank you Sammy and Josh for uplifting the historic and enduring spiritual solidarity between our communities and for uplifting voices, (yours included) that interrupt tribal divisions, focus on humanity and dignity for everyone, and unequivocally call out a genocide for what it is. Thank you for what you are putting out into the world.
@Bettybaminjerusalem
2 ай бұрын
As an Israeli arab jew myself who grew up in Jerusalem too and is also half kurdish iraqi half Iraqi jew, I am so angry at the way she present things!! I agree with nothing she says and it doesn't represent Israel at all or most of Israel's mizrahi arab jews!!!. I grew up on arabic culture love the food, music hospitality and many of the traditions but my grandparents never forgot despite their longing the difficult times in the 40's the farhud riots preplanned with the natzis, how they were told daily that soon Hitler will come to kill all of them and how badly they wanted to escape, my grandmother's brother sat 3.5 years in iraqi jail just for being a jew until the jewish agency managed to bring him to Israel. They had to leave all of their belonggings behind and all of Iraq's jews came to Israel except for less than 10 rich people who stayed and a few that left for Britin and the US, why do you think that is?!! There was discrimination in Israel in the beagining, for the first 2 generations until we all got mixed and talk against racisem, the mainstreem culture includes arabic food and music, we all eat in Israel marocan, yemani, kurdish, know the dances... I never herd anyone says anything about me being less than others because I am an arab jew, most of the jews living in Israel are arab decent and look very much like Palestinians. Almost half of the country are left wing liberals who belive in the 2 state solution and want to live side by side in peace but we also want them to stop terrorising us to leave and accept the exsistance of Israel as a jewish state.We have a long connection to this land too and we are not colonizers, this is the mispreception about us, we have no where else to go back too, Israel is our only home. The way she present things is compleetly distorted and twisted!!! Why doesn't she talks abiut living in jerusalem when buses explode in the city, when there are stabbing events, people diying from rock throwing. My cusin was only 11 when she went on a bus to school that exploted!! We both suffer here. Palestinians suffer more because they are uprest also by their own administration in the west bank and also by hamas. Why don't you tell both side and the Israeli perspective too?
@NoMan-pp1jq
2 ай бұрын
we used to believe what you said was true but we are about 9 months wiser now so not really sure why you are still keeping up the act but I do appreciate it. Brings back nostalgia
@2k2005
2 ай бұрын
Yikes
@xXxAISHxXx
2 ай бұрын
Lol at this Zionist trying to pretend the Mossad isn’t responsible for getting you out of your country via terrorist bomb blasts and Palestinian resistance isn’t a natural response to the evil inhumane Israeli government
@eypu999
2 ай бұрын
If they believe in the 2 state why do they support Gaza’s gen0cide then? 😂 Why aren’t they stopping the illegal occupation and illegal settlement in the West Bank? The illegal annexation of East Jerusalem? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@Bettybaminjerusalem
2 ай бұрын
@@NoMan-pp1jq The fact that you think all Israelies are the same, have the same opinion and are genocidle evil people or whatever says nothing about me and everything about you. In case you were wondering I am a left wing liberal, lerned in a pro peace school, been to peace groups, lerned extended arabic that included lernning chapters of the kuran by heart, I even went to a muslim country from school ( Maroco), lerned only nice things about Islam the religion of peace, met Israeli arabs and Palestinians from school project for peace. I belived in peace even when my reletives were siriously injured in a hamas terror attacks. My cusin was 11 when she went on a bus to school that exploted by a suecide boomber... so think whatever you want but it says nothing about me only about you.
@pensivelyrebelling
2 ай бұрын
57:04 I grew up in evangelical circles and since deconstructed, so spirituality isn’t something I personally feel connected to, but this idea of it being rooted in love was a big part of my reasons for deconstructing. I couldn’t understand why people who claimed to believe in God could be so bloodthirsty and support policies that actively harmed people. I imagine it’s very similar to how anti-Zionist Jews (and possibly somewhat more neutral Jews) feel about other Jews who are so passionately Zionist. I also appreciate the discussion about fearmongering. It seems to be such a prominent way that we convince otherwise kind and peaceful people to get behind horrific acts of violence (like the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan after 9/11). Unpacking those fears and exploring what drives us to hold onto them, to me, seems critical to finding the way to release them and live in peace. Particularly since so much of it is based on a lack of understanding about other people simply existing.
@yads5678
3 ай бұрын
Hadar is awesome. I almost bought a couch from her. She's lovely. Great pod guys. ❤❤❤
@hadarcohen32
3 ай бұрын
you should have gotten that couch! 💛
@yads5678
3 ай бұрын
@hadarcohen32 Aw, i know I missed out. It was transportation. Remember? I'm from the border. 😁 👋
@mkadi70
2 ай бұрын
She is my healer...and a good friend
@mkadi70
2 ай бұрын
So is Habiba (Ella) Shohat
@natashabeck3008
3 ай бұрын
Learned a lot from the third show of Friday Night Semites. I liked how Hadar shared her fascinating Mizrahi family history.
@lolchannel1042
2 ай бұрын
All this 3 people looks completely western and use western language and logic. What connect they have to jews and arabs?
@eypu999
2 ай бұрын
They don’t look completely western, this is how the average middle Eastern looks and wears lol They ARE Jews and Arabs, wdym “connect”? 😂
@wesleystreet
2 ай бұрын
What do you think a Jew or an Arab looks like?
@Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration
3 ай бұрын
AWESOME and INFORMATIVE CONVERSATION!!! This is my new favorite show! You are setting the example the world needs to see and hear! Peace is not elusive, we just need more people to understand, they have been deceived with a false narrative, intended to create fear, intended to divide those who would advocate for peace, to instead trust those who crave power.
@Pawmanda
3 ай бұрын
what a wonderful show! very insightful and loved the dynamic between all 3 of you.
@robinfriedrich6678
3 ай бұрын
So interesting you guys, I had to subscribe! Hopefully everyone else will too!
@anandasouthard7760
3 ай бұрын
Starting out strong with the math jokes!
@hally-hally
3 ай бұрын
Hadar is an amazing witch (its a very good compliment in my mouth) i saw her in the Bad Hasbara and loved her spirituality. If more jews realise that they are way more diverse and rich beyond and without Zionism, i think its hope. I personally would have loved to have more jews around me growing up in North Africa, the way my grand parents did, because they are indigenous to this land just like the rest of us. Zionism has dispossessed us from our jewish heritage and they have isolated jews specially from arabs. Its sad and its against nature i believe. We have always been together. Now, with whats happening to palestinians, and globally to Muslims or arabs in Europe (i can see it in France its bad!) i fear this bond we once had, is fading too far away... We will need time, a great dose of justice to Palestine, and to speak the truth about this part of the world widely, so that people know the injustice thats been done to palestinians and so that we can heal, together. NB: Spain has seen its greatest period in the "Andalus" time under Muslim reigh until the catholics kicked both the Arabs and the jews out in 1492 who lived there peacefully, the golden age. Cheers to Hadar with whom id love to have hours of conversation! But for that she must come to Sevilla :-) 💕
@Shie67
3 ай бұрын
Jews are not indeginous to North Africa. And none of them want to go back to those failing Muslim countries. They are indigenous to israel where they have sovereignty and can govern themselves. Jews lived in the holy land for 2000 years before the arabs arrived to there. They have a very long and deep attachment to israel.
@NorahsYarnArt
3 ай бұрын
Oh, Sevilla would be perfect. People who can’t travel can at least google the Jewish quarter there and marvel at what civilization really looks like unlike that black hole in the ME.
@imapandaperson
3 ай бұрын
@@Shie67 Palestinians have majority Canaanite DNA, an indigenous people literally mentioned in the Torah. They have been there for thousands of years. This is scientifically proven. "Arab" is not a race --- it's a cultural umbrella identity that is multi-ethnic and multi-religious. That is why Arab Jews, Arab Christians, Arab Muslims exist. That is why within the Arab world you have many different West Asian and North African ethnicities. THAT is what this entire video is about. When you create the false divide between Arab and Jew, you erase the reality and multi-ethnic and multi-religious history of the Middle East.
@NoMan-pp1jq
2 ай бұрын
This is something I’ve always said. Middle East has many cultures but Israel chose to implement a western culture that is so unnatural to the region and made a policy of brute force making it a pariah state. It is completely foreign to the Levant. If efforts were made early on by enacting a cultural assimilation to the region things wouldn’t have been as they are today
@Shie67
2 ай бұрын
@NoMan-pp1jq judisem, jews and hebrew culture are indigenous to the levant. Arabic and arab culture are totally foreign to the levant. There is nothing more indigenous than jews talking hebrew and practicing judisem in judea and israel. History didn't start in the 7centuary with the brutal colonialism of islam.
@padmaborrego
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this conversation. ❤❤❤❤
@jimbob5848
3 ай бұрын
A delightful, superb well-informed conversation....Thanks/Shukran. . Salaam/Shalom.
@hero.ambition
3 ай бұрын
menachim begin was a literal terrorist tho. and they made him a prime minister
@wesleystreet
2 ай бұрын
The right-wing Israeli government pardoned actual terrorists convicted by Israeli courts.
@iPeaceful_
3 ай бұрын
Also so folks are not misinformed, in 1948 Iraq had a population of 6 million people out of which 150,000 were Jewish. So to claim that Iraq’s largest city was 40 percent Jewish is inaccurate.
@@stevestevies3495 I know the claim is that a 1917 Ottoman Empire census says 80,000 out of 202,000 people in Baghdad were Jewish. Census data can be flawed especially Baghdad being the largest city and their population estimate is 202,000 which seems unlikely out of 3 million people. If someone has a pdf from 1917 I’m open to being proven wrong.
@user29322
Ай бұрын
Arab jewish Identity should not be confusing the least. To know for thousands of years Arabic speaking jewish tribes that lived in Yemen (converts Arabs to Judaism) , levant and Arabian pennesiula. Not to mention the well known Arab jewish tribes that later converted to Islam and christianity (many with hebrew last names till today) who are very well aware of their jewish lineage. Historically the Semitic tribes in that region especially the nomadic Semitic tribes while developed distinct cultures based on their religions ( monolithic Jews, pagan and later on some because christian and then some because muslims) and the regions as they moved around due to war or droughts They were for all intended purposes still ethnically the same groups of people.
@End-Result
2 ай бұрын
It's not just "Spanish" Jewish heritage, it's predominantly Andalusi, a la Al Andalus - referring to the caliphate - the heart of which was in present day Andalucía.
@francessayyed833
2 ай бұрын
One democratic state for all regardless of religion and equal political and human rights for all.. BDS always
@andrearoseschneider7479
2 ай бұрын
Sephardic Jews also came from North Africa, Ottoman Empire, and Arabia not just Spain
@eypu999
2 ай бұрын
She said that
@francessayyed833
2 ай бұрын
Read shlomo sands book..the creation of israel...talks a lot about jewish community in middle east before Zionism
@vanessac1965
3 ай бұрын
I'm half white, half Lebanese and Muslim. I met an Israeli girl whose family were Arab Jews. I asked her about the history of her family prior to Israel and what country they'd been in. She seemed offended. I asked 'but did your family miss their old country?' it was like it never existed for her or was uncomfortable to think about. I found that sad. Like an amnesia.
@nahumhabte6210
3 ай бұрын
Ethiopian Jews dont have that same thinking fortunately, bc they can move back. Most Arab Jews cant Even visit «back home»
@lamegalectora
3 ай бұрын
The jews that were expelled or made to leave from the arab countries (more than 850,000 of them according to some sources) some of whom had been living there for millennia, well before islam was born, are still suffering from trans generational trauma.
@Bettybaminjerusalem
2 ай бұрын
@@vanessac1965 I am Israeli half kurdish half Iraqi jew, I am very proud of my arab heritage and there are many like me. When I went to my grandparents house we sat by the t.v and watched old movies of Farid Al Atrash, Abdel wahab and Abdel Halim El Hafaz, I love the food, traditions and Music, yet I don't forget the stories about the riots, especially the Farhud in 1941, how badly they wanted to escape Iraq but couldn't, how they were told daily by their neighbors that soon the natzis will come and kill all of them, how they have to leave behind my grandmother's brother who sat in Iraqi jail for 3.5 years just because he was a jew, until the jewish agency manage to rescue him and bring him to Israel, and many more of these stories. We are greatful for the exsistance of Israel and hope the Palestinians would want a 2 state solution like many of us do and stop beliving in the fantesy of kicking us out, this is our home too and we are going no where. (Never herd about colonizers who have no where else to go back to, and most of us Israelies are not white we are brown looking very similar to Palestinians, most of us are mizrahi arab jews)
@Bettybaminjerusalem
2 ай бұрын
@@vanessac1965 I am Israeli half Iraqi hald kurdish jew, very proud to be arab decent, listen to Fairuz, Em kultum, Amr diab at home speak a bit arabic and even know 2 chapters from the Kuran by heart (lerned at school), but still I value the exsistance of Israel who saved my grandparents who were persecuted in Iraq (my kurdish side is also from the autonomy of the Kurdish people in Iraq (Zaxo) ), we want peace with the Palestinians and the 2 state solution, Hadar anti zionist approch does not represent me or the vast majority of Israeli arab jews who love and support Israel.
@sakha2349
2 ай бұрын
@@nahumhabte6210 - most don't even want to because their arabness was cleaned away by Isr society
@whateverian1948
2 ай бұрын
Hadar is one of my favorite Palestinian Jews and been following her for years before all this Genocide.. Shokran Hadar !
@yrahmed
2 ай бұрын
This show is so damn good, phenomenal job! Glad I get to witness what you’re building this early on 👏👏👏
@Valkyri3Z
2 ай бұрын
Quite interesting discussion. Baghdadi Jewish people were a sizable community even in Calcutta India.
@Bettybaminjerusalem
2 ай бұрын
@@Valkyri3Z You do know that they were also dimmies, second class citizens for centuries and had many restrictions. Did you ever herd about the farhud riots?, I find it funny she doesn't talk about it. As an Iraqi jew myself O can tell you that Israel saved my grandparents who were persecuted, that I am very pround of my arab heretige but never forget the stories of how hard it was in Iraq for jews in the 40's. I was also educated in a pro peace school with peace groups meeting Palestinians, lerned as a part of my final exame chapters in the Kuran and only nice things about islam. She is spreding misinformation and does not represent jewish who came from arab countries at all!!
@Valkyri3Z
2 ай бұрын
@@Bettybaminjerusalem Bro , do you know Mossad played active role in spreading terror among Iraqi Jewish community ? In fact they got caught doing that. Riots take place in all over the world including in India. Does not mean everyone has to leave. The fact remains Iraq had a law that forbade eviction of Jews from Iraq. US and Is4a3l pressured Iraq to change that law. Iraqi govt never wanted Jews to leave. it was Mossad that created the situation.
@Valkyri3Z
2 ай бұрын
@@Bettybaminjerusalem Bro , do you know Mo66ad played active role in spreading terror among Iraqi Jewish community ? In fact they got caught doing that. Riots take place in all over the world including in India. Does not mean everyone has to leave. The fact remains Iraq had a law that forbade eviction of Jews from Iraq. US and Is4a3l pressured Iraq to change that law. Iraqi govt never wanted Jews to leave. it was Mo66ad that created the situation.
@Valkyri3Z
2 ай бұрын
@@Bettybaminjerusalem We know Mo$$ad played an active role spreading terror in Iraq and US pressured Iraq to change its law that forbade eviction of Iraqi Jewish community. LOL Riot takes place all over the world , even in India. Not a single person left India because of riots.
@Valkyri3Z
2 ай бұрын
@@Bettybaminjerusalem Iraqi Jews were quite wealthy and owned major businesses in Iraq , far from being second class, There was a Iraqi law that protected their eviction or harm. LOOL They even lived in India and flourished.
@crystalsharadin9772
2 ай бұрын
Hadar Cohen is awesome! Love this show and the amazing hosts 🖤
@kiren3168
3 ай бұрын
Hadar is so brave and smart ❤
@maenoaf6428
3 ай бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@malou2143
3 ай бұрын
Love this episode. ❤
@upendasana7857
3 ай бұрын
I find it hard to understand that Hadars mother spoke Yiddish as I had thought Israel actually banned Yiddish as a language as they saw it as a "bastardised language"including German in it of course and also a reminder of the holocaust and their roots in eastern Europe,so I'm surprised to hear that Yiddish was "forced"on Mizrahi Jews. I hav cousins in Israel and who were born there with mixed Askenazi/Mizrahi heritage and none of them speak Yiddish,Arabic yes..at least one of them but not Yiddish
@luulmao7919
3 ай бұрын
I live in Israel and I can tell that it's very very rare to find someone speaking yiddish.
@adamclevi
Ай бұрын
Early Zionists literally protested Yiddish theatres in Tel Aviv. The anti-Yiddish vibes in Israel are weirdly strong even to this day. The only situation I could see this happening is among the ultra-orthodox Haredim. There it is quite common for mizrahim to send their children to Ashkenazi religious schools. I’m not going to say she is lying, but this is certainly an outlier story.
@Ashira_N_A
3 ай бұрын
"The Golden Age of Spain" has become this exaggerated mythologized period because of the flourishing thought (religion, philosophy, etc) and artistic development. The fact is that while those things were happening, both the Catholic and Moorish imperial leaders were still persecuting Jews, committing pogroms, raping, pillaging and murdering Jews, only LESS than before or elsewhere. We need to stop romanticzing this period as a time where everyone was just "getting along" or where and when tolerance dominated. It didn't.
@Ashira_N_A
3 ай бұрын
It should be noted that there were Moorish regimes that wiped out entire Jewish villages/towns during this "Golden Age".
@sakha2349
2 ай бұрын
We need some references for these statements.
@cassiescarboro7401
2 ай бұрын
This was a very informative conversation!
@theoisnotalive
10 күн бұрын
super cool talk!!!!
@Femmeaesthetic
2 ай бұрын
I haven’t watched the full vid but to correct these people Eurovision wasn’t only for Europeans! Armenians, Turks, Australia performed in Eurovision as well, they do invite non europeans to participate in Eurovision! There’s a famous Israeli singer named Ofra Haza who’s Mizrahi Jew, she’s Yemeni decent (she’s also well known to be voice actress in prince of Egypt) she’s performed in Eurovision as well singing the song Chai!
@wesleystreet
2 ай бұрын
Turkey and Armenia have always had one foot in Europe, one foot in Asia Minor. And Australian history began with settlement by British colonists. Israel participating in Eurovision is an admission that the Ashkenazi cultural majority are of Central European descent, the outcome of intermarrying with Europeans for a millennium.
@BRChristiansen184h
2 ай бұрын
I'm curious: I understand that you all have your various roots. However, I primarily perceive you as Americans, you don't give off a middle-eastern "vibe". Of course that's partially because you speak in English, and not in Hebrew and Arabic. Were you born in America and did you grow up there? I wish I had the opportunity to hear you speak Arabic and Hebrew.
@slampersand3145
3 ай бұрын
Good talk!
@yasseralsaidi1168
2 ай бұрын
The rejection of multiple gods or multiple backgrounds frightened them and the Russians didn't know how to handle " diversity " & so they suppressed it all together
@iPeaceful_
3 ай бұрын
I feel like she didn't recognize Arab Jewish accountability within Zionism. As well as the Arab World not being a monolith if a Muslim, Christian or a Jewish family from any other country emigrated to comprise a settler colonial project that deserves addressing.
@andrearoseschneider7479
2 ай бұрын
Yes, both Arab Jews left that region both from persecution and some did not.
@yasseralsaidi1168
2 ай бұрын
Stayin humble will take some effort
@Lll20498
2 ай бұрын
Another great conversation. I learned so much from your guest. Her existence gives me hope.
@bensenmum426
2 ай бұрын
You often critqiue Zionism and associate it with colonialism. But it might be helpful ot address the other elephant in the room which is the ideology of Islam. It was founded on imperialism and jews and muslims have never lived peacefully together prior to the british mandate. acknowledging that neither side is a heroic would probably go a long way in solving the problem.
@eypu999
2 ай бұрын
It was relatively peaceful prior to Zionism. Islam isn’t a factor in the occupation of Palestine. I feel like you wanna criticize both sides but in this subject it’s just Zionists and Palestinians. Zionism ideology does rely on Judaism, but Palestinian liberation doesn’t rely on Islam it’s merely about Palestinians.
@alicehatch1001
2 ай бұрын
Not an elephant in the room.
@bensenmum426
2 ай бұрын
@@eypu999 No Jews and Muslims did not live peacefully. Muslims colonized Jews as a dhimmi. there's about centuries worth of massacres and pogroms/looting. What you see with the violent israeli settlers is exactly what jews went through. Pointing out atrocities of both sides is important in moving forward.
@eypu999
2 ай бұрын
@@bensenmum426 I don think you understand what relatively means
@francessayyed833
2 ай бұрын
@@bensenmum426😅😅😅😅😅😅
@padmaborrego
3 ай бұрын
Shabbat shalom. Asallamalakum ❤❤❤❤❤
@ScenariosOfDrea
2 ай бұрын
Jews have existed in Israel since 3,000 years, and also if every Jew if they are Arab jews Italian Jews, and or Mexican Jews etc All those Jews can eventually traced back all the way to the Middle East in Israel.
@trril1234
2 ай бұрын
Everyone came from Africa, so what's your point?
@maggieLbizurke
3 ай бұрын
this was a beautiful conversation. esp 35:00 onward. exactly the conversations that need to be happening, so i love that y’all have created a platform for it even if it’s in y’alls dusty ass basement (jk i see no dust i’m just jealous cuz we don’t have basements in texas 😭)
@geofsawaya394
3 ай бұрын
Hadar!! ❤🎉
@eypu999
2 ай бұрын
“Thanks mom” That was funny 😂
@yasseralsaidi1168
2 ай бұрын
The key 🔑 to diversity is to like everyone,s face
@yasseralsaidi1168
2 ай бұрын
You definitely have a branch in every tribe
@sh25098
3 ай бұрын
My jewish iraqi grandparents lost all their belongings and had to walk illegally through the dessert to come to israel. I have a first hand account of what happened in Iraq. The Iraqi society was infested with European antisemitism. Jews were not allowed to attend universities anymore or to work at jobs they worked at for centuries. There were also violent persecutions against them ( and I'm not talking about the bombs). The Iraqi jews felt they had no future there without the ability to work and study and with all the arab hostility towards them. That's why they left. Nobody ever identified as Arab. They had separate cultural traditions to other communities. There are many Iraqi jewish cuisines that are unique to the jews. They saw themselves as a separate ethnicity and as jews it was very very important for them to only marry other jews. And again, the term arab jew is a current term by way of trying to rewrite history. They were Iraqi jews. Not arab jews. Thats how they called themselvs if they met non jews.
@esraaf6519
3 ай бұрын
What happened to your family wasn’t due to their Jewish identity but rather a consequence of the declaration of the state of Israel. This event incited anger among Arab leaders and their citizens, unfortunately resulting in the mass exodus of Iraqi and other Jews from their homelands in the Arabic region to Israel.
@Caro-ys4kk
3 ай бұрын
The Iraqi Jews, the Moroccan Jews, the Algerian Jews, the Syrian Jews, what is the ethnicity of all of these groups ? What is the maternal language of all of these groups ? Even in scientific literature, Mijrahi Jews are referred to as Arab Jews! By ethnicity, these are Arabs! So according to you, they were ethnic Jews but who didn’t have a language of their own? There are over 465 million Arabs and among them, there are differences in cuisine, and minor cultural differences , they’re not a monolith! But they’re all Arabs! The Iraqi Jews, their native language was Arabic, not Hebrew, in fact modern Hebrew was revived in the 19th and 20th centuries using Arabic! So are the Moroccan Jews, a different ethnic Jewish group than the Iraqi Jews and the Yemeni Jews? These are Arabs, they just adopted Judaism as a religion, just like the Ashkenazim are Eastern Europeans who adopted Judaism , just like the Sephardim are southern Europeans who adopted Judaism. Judaism, like Islam, like Christianity are religions, not ethnic groups. How you have made Judaism, a religion, an ethnic inheritance defies logic! The only Jews by ethnicity are the children and descendants of Judah! And there is no evidence that modern Jews are ethnic descendants of the biblical figure Judah. Neither Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were Jews or Israelites! Moses was an Israelite, but not a Jew! The Israelite identity begins with the 12 children of Yakub, Jewish identity begins with Judah. The Zionists who founded Israel were Europeans! No Jew today can credibly claim that they in fact descend from Judah and judea, that’s because several other pagan tribes converted to Judaism in ancient times, and became Jews,one such example is that of the Edomites. Those edomites who adopted Judaism in ancient times, were Arabs ! In the 1st century BC, the geographer Strabo describes Western Judea’s population as consisting of Idumaeans, Nabateans (Arabs)! King of Judah, Herod was Arab by ethnicity,Idumaean and Nabatean! European Jews are generally converts to Judaism. Humans from various communities have always intermingled. Being of mixed ancestry doesn’t give anyone the right to waltz over to another part of the world and take it over with the argument that 3000 years ago, some of my mix ancestors lived here. “EEJ are Europeans probably of Roman descent who converted to Judaism at times,when Judaism was the first monotheistic religion that spread in the ancient world.Any other theory about their origin is not supported by the genetic data…”it’s long, read the rest at NCBI PUBMED
@sh25098
3 ай бұрын
@@Caro-ys4kk not sure where you got your information from . But you are wrong. Jews are Jews. They have stayed in their jewish communities for hundred of years. Ashkenazi Jews and mizrachi jews have 50% or more cannaites/ levantin dna . So basically yes they are connected to judean biblical Jews. And NO they are not converts. That's just propaganda. There are no major conversions in jewish history. Jews are just Jews. They are not European by genetics. Sorry to disappointed you.
@sh25098
3 ай бұрын
@@esraaf6519no . It was due to European antisemitism that spread in arab countries. They were persecuting Jews way before the creation of israel.
@esraaf6519
3 ай бұрын
@@Caro-ys4kk At the beginning of Islam, two Arab Jewish tribes from Yathrib( which called Medina now) , Alaws and Alkhazraj, hosted Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and his followers in Medina after they fled from Mecca.
@elyakim155
3 ай бұрын
does he speak arabic
@sifaboubou8241
2 ай бұрын
Beautiful 😍
@yasseralsaidi1168
2 ай бұрын
Arab jews are supposed to be less jewsh true or false ?
@ChefbyMistake
2 ай бұрын
Not at all she is trying to be cozy with American politics.
@naziirani2773
2 ай бұрын
♥
@archaeomom
3 ай бұрын
Makes my heart kvell
@ChefbyMistake
2 ай бұрын
There is nothing like an Arab Jew, a Jew is a Jew just like an Assyrian can’t be an Arab. Israel 🇮🇱 is not Middle East it’s between Europe and Middle East just like Turkey or Cyprus.
@sakha2349
2 ай бұрын
Being jewish is a religion. Not an ethnicity. So you can have European Jews, Russian Jews, Moroccan Jews, Ethiopian Jews etc. The history of spread of all religions is conversion.
@sakha2349
2 ай бұрын
Isr is actually colonized palestine! The colonisers? European/Eastern european Jews. Of course Palestine is the middle East!
@ChefbyMistake
2 ай бұрын
@@sakha2349 Judaism is like oldest religion in earth like Hinduism or Zoroastrianism. Armenians are Christian’s but they are Armenian as well.
@sakha2349
2 ай бұрын
Yes I know - I am not sure what your point is? Hinduism is old. There are European Hindus? They converted. That doesn't mean their ethnicity changed to indian though.
@ChefbyMistake
2 ай бұрын
@@sakha2349 Well it’s complicated. A Jew is a race while an Arab is a linguistic identity.
@ahavahyisrael
2 ай бұрын
Jews could feel secure in Arab countries as long as they accept dhimmi status
@nahumhabte6210
3 ай бұрын
Both american Jews and sephardic Jews lost their «true» identity In a way when they stopped speaking Yiddish and Arabic. The identity of just being «jewish» feels kinda empty, without the other identities
@Shie67
3 ай бұрын
Post ww2 Yiddish became associated with a place that killed 6 million Jews. And those that survived or fled often lost everything they had including nany family members. Nobody forced any ashkenazi jew to stop speaking Yiddish. A natural daying out happened of the use of the language and of the European jewish identity.
@nahumhabte6210
2 ай бұрын
@@Shie67 in Soviet union they were asssimilated after the war and Even before it
@patriotsforisrael3610
3 ай бұрын
Lol.. There is no such thing as Arab Jews. There are *Mizrahi Jews.* Jews are from Judea. Arabs are from Arabia. Jews lived in the Middle East for thousands of years before the Arab conquest that began in the second half of the 7th century. Jews did speak Arabic (due to the Arabization of the Middle East, Africa, etc..), how did they pray in Hebrew towards the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the spiritual center of the Jewish people. Where there were 2 temples. By the way, the barbarians were not Arabs either.
@JeanBod1111
3 ай бұрын
35:00 Just brushed off october 7th like it was nothing
@wesleystreet
2 ай бұрын
You think that war started on October 7th?
@ahavahyisrael
2 ай бұрын
This conflict is not about "cultures"...it is about discerning those who support and follow Torah and those who do not. In the Torah, the prophets state clearly that Jerusalem and Har HaBayit - the Temple Mount- will be a sacred place for ALL PEOPLES to recognize and worship the One Creator. Why do Muslims prevent jews from praying there??? Because of replacement theology.
@ahavahyisrael
2 ай бұрын
Why does everyone forget that "Jordan" was established as the homeland for Muslim Arabs??
@sakha2349
2 ай бұрын
I dont understand this at all. The brits carved out lands in the middle east by drawing lines on maps. The countries were meant for the people living on those lands. Why are you singling out Jordan?
@20kmfTLV
2 ай бұрын
she's trying to sell uniqueness and critical perspective but she doesn't mention more than half of Israelis have roots in Jewish-Arab communities around the middle east, from which they were kicked out after the creation of Israel. They're just not making a big deal of their identity and exploit it for their politics...
@wesleystreet
2 ай бұрын
Why were they kicked out after the colonization of the land that became Israel?
@JL-uo1di
2 ай бұрын
Is she Arab or Kurdish or a mix? I thought she identified as an Arab Jew!
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