And the old man’s finger over the camera lense made it blurry … but interesting.
@Oldbmwr100rs
Жыл бұрын
Someone came to a campout in a former Santa Fe transport bus they turned into a beautiful RV that was powered by one of these. It had been rebuilt sometime in the 70's by Crown coach in southern california. I do remember his being a DOHC setup though, had two cam drive shafts and it idled very low, in the 300 RPM range. May have been a different engine from the same company. He told me the company also did marine engines during the war. Really interesting engine.
@SquishyZoran
Жыл бұрын
That must have been super rare because I have a book that says many of the gassers in the Crowns were replaced with diesels in the 70s and it showed a bunch of engines in a pile for scraping
@Oldbmwr100rs
Жыл бұрын
@@SquishyZoran Now he said it was a Packard engine, and it had a dual cam setup. The bus was from the mid/late 40's so it may have been a different engine, but it was really interesting bus to check out. I thought H-S engine, but like I said, he told me it was originally a marine engine design, owned by Packard, but who knows. it wasn't a large bus either, sort of a little smaller then average, made for taking people between train stations. But really cool none the less.
@whatsreal7506
Жыл бұрын
This engine has the most distinctive sound. They used to be extensively in school buses
@glennk1931
Жыл бұрын
Yes they were. I drove a 1957 Gillig school buss with a Hall Scott pancake engine. Very powerful. Ran on leaded premium gasoline.
@MegaBoilermaker
2 жыл бұрын
A number of companies around the world manufactured horizontally disposed/inclined engines for railcar use including AEC here in the UK. Hall- Scott produced some very good engines formilitary use in WW2.
@peterwiremuormsby9383
2 жыл бұрын
Horizontally OPPOSED
@flappingflight8537
Жыл бұрын
Toyota model “ Previa “ ( Estima) minivan is the last one to the best of my knowledge .
@napabill2001
5 жыл бұрын
477 cubic inches would be a Hall-Scott Model 136 (pancake) or 135 (vertical). 4.5 bore by 5-inch stroke. 150 horsepower and 352 ft-lb torque. Weighs 2,400 pounds. It was created by increasing the cylinder bore of the 130 engine by a quarter of an inch. The 135/136 were very popular in Crown Coach buses in the post-war years. Hall-Scott built these engines from 1930 until around the late 1940's when they were superseded by the 504, 180, and 190 engines. 190 engines were installed in all the production IC-41 ACF-Brills between 1945 and 1950.
@adriancressy8363
4 жыл бұрын
that was a unique design to be under the floor. Mostly transit buses. White Motor coaches from the early 50's had the engine under the floor. I remember as a child seeing the access doors .
@sadams12345678
3 жыл бұрын
Mid-engined Crown and Gillig school buses also used them.
@psa722
2 жыл бұрын
@@sadams12345678 The school district I was in had nine Hall Scott Crowns. Two were used for spare parts. I used to love riding on them. The rest of our Crowns had Detroits, which were still great. Miss those buses.
@williamnelson7496
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, this engine came from a C-36.
@Draxindustries1
7 жыл бұрын
Great looking engine! Would this be the same engine that powered the ACF Brill bus?
@spaceace1006
2 жыл бұрын
That is just way too cool!
@novanut1964
2 жыл бұрын
good video, i volunteer at old pueblo trolley in tucson, az., several buses in the collection have similiar flat engines
@boblackey1
6 жыл бұрын
In 1947, Safety Motor Transit Company in Roanoke, Virginia purchased 53 new city busses. 20 Mack C-41 busses with a 6 cylinder Mack gas engine in the rear and 33 ACF-Brill C-36 busses with engines mounted underneath the floor. These busses were in service through the mid 60s. I'm not certain but my guess is the Brill's had this engine. It's been so long I can't recall.
@adriancressy8363
3 жыл бұрын
White Motor coaches and White transit buses had the engine under the floor
@boblackey1
3 жыл бұрын
@@adriancressy8363 Oh. I remember White transit buses in Washington DC back in that day. I was able to confirm the 33 ACF-Brill buses that ran in Roanoke all through the 1950's had this engine. Roanoke bought 33 of these and 20 Mack C-41s in 1947. It was 1966 before all were off the streets replaced with 4 different orders of GM old look.
@adriancressy8363
3 жыл бұрын
@@boblackey1 Yes Bob..Washington DC. The Catholic schools chartered the transit buses to be school buses. Remember that DC had 3 systems? WV&M Virginia. WM&A for Maryland and Capitol transit. Many of the vehicles had 3-on the floor. Others had a very strange kind of no-shift transmission. I have a lot of memories riding into DC to go to school.
@boblackey1
3 жыл бұрын
@@adriancressy8363 Down here in Roanoke the 33 ACF Brill C36 busses with the Hall Scott engine shown here had 3 on the floor manual transmissions. The 20 Mack C41 buses had a two speed Spicer automatic transmission. It would wind up then shift once into high range.
@jeffreysmoker6351
2 жыл бұрын
Hello William, I am a Hall-Scott historian collecting Hall-Scott serial numbers. Would you be able to give me the engine serial, as well as corresponding bus information if you have it? Thanks!
@carlinshowalter1806
10 ай бұрын
Just when you thought you'd seen everything!
@171apples171
2 жыл бұрын
If i had that engine on a pallet like that, itd be a runner right now (granted there aint something horribly wrong inside obviously)
@peterwiremuormsby9383
4 жыл бұрын
Shame about the bad sound!!
@williamnelson7496
4 жыл бұрын
It was the first video I ever made. Wind kept blowing.
@peterwiremuormsby9383
2 жыл бұрын
@@williamnelson7496 would it be possible for you to remake the video. It looks very interesting but I couldn't understand any of your commentary. Thanks
@kevinhoffman6592
2 жыл бұрын
Love to see it go in another bus
@ronaldrussell5481
2 жыл бұрын
Cummins offered their 855 cu.in. diesel in pancake configuration for bus and ?? as well. Maybe still does but probably not the 855.
@dennisford2000
3 жыл бұрын
Really ? Torque? Revs? Fuel? Two large pipes to manifold?
@billnelson364
3 жыл бұрын
The maximum torque was 380 at 1600 RPMs (without accessories). Most operators ran gasoline (27 cents a gallon in 1950), but some guys set up for butane with extra equipment. The two big pipes run down to the exhaust pipe. I believe this was designed to heat up the intake manifold for a smoother run. ------Bill
@sauluribe7082
2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't they have made this engine a boxer? And I believe Hall-Scott is a famous wrestler.
@tomshiba51
3 жыл бұрын
What Hall Scott engine ever got good gas mileage?
@adriancressy8363
3 жыл бұрын
Who cared back then...$0.35/ per gallon??
@chadbailey189
2 жыл бұрын
none
@mikelezcurra810
Жыл бұрын
@@adriancressy8363 In 1950 that was not cheap.
@kevinhoffman8214
Жыл бұрын
toyota had a flat 4 cylinder that ran forever
@raginroadrunner
Жыл бұрын
Bus engine?
@gbalias361
4 жыл бұрын
Terrible sound---
@evaork3746
2 жыл бұрын
Under floor engine... fantastic to see again
@johncunningham4820
Жыл бұрын
LOTS of specific BUS engines were built horizontal . Specially made for the job of being mounted under the floor . Sound was bad Bro .
@rexharvey8420
2 жыл бұрын
If you are going to make the effort to do a video, make an effort to use wind suppressors. your potentially interesting video is ruined by your lack of effort
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