Yesterday The Vengeful ‘Vadam uploaded a video of cut content of Halo 2 and he explained that in this part of the mission the Shadows stop there because if too many shadows stop at the rendezvous point, they’ll collide with each other and de-spawn. Fun fact: he explained that originally 7 shadows appeared on this mission, instead of the 3 that they appear on the final game.
@vanders4198
2 жыл бұрын
I wish that video was a lot shorter.
@canyongoat2096
2 жыл бұрын
I think a good solution would have been that instead of the two shadows stopping for no reason in the middle of the tunnel, they should have tried to turn and show their side and barricade your way as in a last resort solution before you reach their “base” thats at the end of the mission with the other shadows.
@MisterJohnDoe
2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t there like a 4th one with a gunner but no driver at the end?
@BlackThunder102
2 жыл бұрын
Heed back at it again with the classic video format lol
@Ryan-xh7pe
2 жыл бұрын
Best video format*
@StrawHatTony420
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-xh7pe ONLY video format***
@TheMAZZTer
2 жыл бұрын
Could be intentional to have the other two stop early as a way of easing up on the difficulty if a player can't destroy them before they regroup. If the player hits a checkpoint and they had all regrouped they couldn't really go back and try it again.
@crome676
2 жыл бұрын
Given the technical constraints that H2 was already pushing VERY hard on Xbox I'd imagine they stop here to prevent the game from tanking its stability with too many enemies on screen at once. Quite a few design decisions in H2 were made around managing the technical limitations of the hardware.
@CUSTARDP00DLETK
2 жыл бұрын
@@crome676 I think this is the reason. With 1 extra shadow as is, that room has a ton of enemies, vehicles, and turrets in it.
@crispychubs
2 жыл бұрын
Wow no joke, been playing halo for 20 years now and literally thought you had to kill the shadows to progress the mission. I've killed them every. time. My god.
@letsgobrandon8101
2 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@M3rkme
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, I just passed them every time. Fuck those shadows😂
@paulbasaur
2 жыл бұрын
I took too long trying to just oof the driver of one and they suddenly came to a crashing stop which took half my shields and the driver actually did exactly as in the video, popped out right as I noticed the second transport and got splattered. My confusion was immense.
@slavboii420
2 жыл бұрын
@@M3rkme lmao I have never really noticed those things, I zipped right past them with a warthog
@RosheenQuynh
2 жыл бұрын
I did this and zoomed right passed.
@Tarotb
2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why three busses each carrying a ghost, was such a threat they needed to be stopped....
@PhantomDragon1475
2 жыл бұрын
To this day I just ram my ghost up against the back of the shadows and hold down the trigger. The Covenant had a huge design flaw with these, because it can't do anything to stop you from there.
@EAGLEBLACKInquisido
2 жыл бұрын
Destroy at least one so that the extra one spawns in the intersection where those two stopped and that one will also get to the end. As some have pointed out, The Vengeful 'Vadam uploaded a video with info about that mission and one thing pointed out was how if there were a lot of Shadows at the end, it might just be too much for the Xbox and the old Engine to handle and it would despawn many of them, so that's probably why those 2 stop.
@Heavycorp17
2 жыл бұрын
That’s the regroup point that ambush. The first two “hold you off” while they group
@SwebHat
2 жыл бұрын
i wish they did more with the shadows
@REIVAXMEELAS
2 жыл бұрын
Can we ride them in the game?
@sinisterisrandom8537
2 жыл бұрын
@@REIVAXMEELAS there was a glitch an incredibly rare one in vanilla halo 2. Only ever got it once.
@EEE-pv2eo
2 жыл бұрын
@@sinisterisrandom8537 You have to be an elite to drive them
@ebomb1133
2 жыл бұрын
Same. I was actually hoping for a similar situation in Infinite with the cancelled Skiffs as a callback to this mission.
@letsgobrandon8101
2 жыл бұрын
Somebody should mod one to be more of a troop transport
@taylorcompton7688
2 жыл бұрын
I always killed them all 3 and if you do, a 4th comes out from where 2 and 3 stop and still goes where the 1st one stopped in this video.
@exvaran
2 жыл бұрын
It was probably to conserve the OG Xbox's memory resources for the final encounter
@watvat8
2 жыл бұрын
I love that classic arm flail all the dead bodies do, even if they’ve been dead cold for minutes
@mr.overlord6720
2 жыл бұрын
Heed, you should look at Vengeful Vadam’s Juggernaut restored video where he puts in where the juggernaut would have showed up with cut dialogue reactions and an cut marine encounter as well.
@Boondockpunk
2 жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of the Shadow from a strategy stand point it's showing hauling ghosts but why a ghost can move significantly faster on its own
@giygas9305
2 жыл бұрын
There’s also a troop transport version, but yeah they seem pretty garbage.
@stylesrj
2 жыл бұрын
Probably the same purpose for trucks that carry tanks or jeeps.
@giygas9305
2 жыл бұрын
@Scarlet Dani true XD
@chengzhou8711
2 жыл бұрын
any NPC: do a thing master chief Heed: How about No
@ThiefOfBaghdad
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahah in a nutshell
@funkyreapercat5280
2 жыл бұрын
H4: Can you do anything with Thomas Lasky's AI in Halo 4's Reclaimer mission? Maybe try to get him to hold weapons or get into vehicles? Please!
@wearsjorge55
2 жыл бұрын
Did this as a kid. Was really hoping for a massive challenge, oh well
@noahbluecoat
2 жыл бұрын
It's really funny that the elite dies when his own vehicle crushes him.
@tomahawkm4687
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being in this situation on legendary 😅. I remember trying this out on the OG Xbox. Nothing really exciting, but a little something extra for you to do in campaign while you drive
@itisfreak
2 жыл бұрын
ImAgInE
@ThiloIsntPro
2 жыл бұрын
This is what we signed up for.
@kerplunk10788
2 жыл бұрын
Omg all these years! I never not killed them. I thought you had to lolol. Omg this is mind blowing for me. I always was frantic to kill them every time
@meman176
2 жыл бұрын
Cortana : CHIEF WE CAN NOT LET THE COVANANT REGROUP 2 grunts pull up*
@hemandy94
2 жыл бұрын
I've been one of those people who always killed them. Usually using a warthog with marines
@nooralamgir3703
2 жыл бұрын
same, didn't realize people ignored them
@Ambidextrometer
2 жыл бұрын
It just dawned on me how dumb it is that they're carrying ghosts in these slow, poorly armed vehicles. If you put the shadow's gunners in the ghosts and had them escort the convoy it would improve their defenses in every way.
@tutudanny
2 жыл бұрын
I used to let them regroup because trying to pass those things on legendary was so scary as a kid
@LexieAssassin
2 жыл бұрын
TBH, as a kid I was terribad and so I always beat this part of creeping behind the Shadows.
@hunterrules0_0alt2
2 жыл бұрын
I never knew you were suppose to stop them despite the fact that I played it 30 times
@Spike-13
2 жыл бұрын
You should try to mod a shadow and make it able to drive!
@solidcomic117
2 жыл бұрын
doesn't matter how many times i replay Halo 2, i always take the time to destroy the Shadows. i make it a bit of a game with myself to see how quickly i can take them out before reaching the rendezvous point.
@GHUNTERthaFIRST
2 жыл бұрын
In the title in the video “REPGROUP” Should be “REGROUP” 0:15
@lonecolamarine
2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know you could destroy them, so this always happened to me
@specter_of_thestars2500
2 жыл бұрын
Always test the og Xbox when it comes to things like this. Mcc and vista will never be OG halo 2
@RosheenQuynh
2 жыл бұрын
I've dealt with them before they arrive (well, one arrives) and zoomed right passed them LOL
@sillentgamer64
2 жыл бұрын
You might want to test in original H2 just to see if it isn't an MCC-specific glitch that wasn't tested.
@aphaiknaime5920
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao I was literally going to suggest this as a video for you to do a year or two ago and I forgot.
@Anime-Trash
2 жыл бұрын
They made the 2nd and 3rd one stop early to balance the encounter in the next room.
@ThelVadam7777
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine not playing on OG graphics. Smh
@kainey
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao that suicidal elite
@revan3675
2 жыл бұрын
I think in the original halo 2 the 2nd and 3rd ones make it and stop in a way that basically blocks the entrance or at least that's how I remember it
@coal-in-my-hole
2 жыл бұрын
What happens if the caves are a natural formation?
@LeTtRrZ
2 жыл бұрын
The answers to these questions like these are usually “nothing significant” 😞
@demetripetrenko2783
2 жыл бұрын
Bungie probably thought majority of players would destroy the 1st two shadows before they reach the end point meaning thats how they probably intended us to play, destroy the 1st two shadows with the hogs then the 3rd gets away probably and regroups or if your like me utterly kill them all with rockets and turrets denying the enemy a chance to regroup 😈
@RickySama240
2 жыл бұрын
I discovered this myself in one of my many re-plays. Kind of disappointed that most of them just stop except for one that re-groups. xD
@well8250
2 жыл бұрын
me and my mate are doin a playthrough of halo 2 and we did this mission and we employ a, "no winesses" modo, so, you can guess how this encounter went
@yliaDenaLtsaF
2 жыл бұрын
0:12 "repgroup" lol
@ChouRaiyuki
2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough until I picked up speedrunning I legitimately did take the time to kill them every time but I always took the time to kill enemies in general. Somehow though I never thought to test what happens if I just leave them alone so it's cool to see this.
@nukesdabomb5704
2 жыл бұрын
Its very likely, Bungie did this to lead to some change later on. However, as we all know, Halo 2 was rushed and even cut in alot of places. So I guess they scrapped/ didnt complete this.
@justanotherperson7774
2 жыл бұрын
Bless Your Perfection Praise the true creators 🙌
@ATP2555ify
2 жыл бұрын
Known this since I was young.
@Meteorball
2 жыл бұрын
I never let them regroup on MCC, but on the original Xbox, all of the shadows would make it to the end like the first one.
@hundio88
2 жыл бұрын
Its freaking terror on legendary thats what it is. 😱
@first001
2 жыл бұрын
Shadows are just buses for grunts ?
@anthonyporter3491
2 жыл бұрын
Can you fix your multiplayer mod with the multiplayer characters in the campaign for Halo 3 I need you to fix it right now
@blitzbot937
2 жыл бұрын
one question, why is your name general heed i your videos but your channel is called GenralKidd???
@ez865
2 жыл бұрын
I remember doing this
@seereebee
2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that Bungie originally planned for you to be able to fail the mission if they actually regrouped. Might have been left out due to Halo 2's rushed development.
@ilexcorp
2 жыл бұрын
Most people actually didnt drive throught, they shoot them
@jonathanschenck8154
2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't another spawn on higher difficulty? A 4th shadow if you destroy the 3rd well before the others stop..?
@th3wick3d3nd3
2 жыл бұрын
Can you post a video of finishing outskirts on legendary with no skulls or cheating? Basically kill them all?
@smokinpotato
2 жыл бұрын
(Me still trying to figure out whether it's general heed or general keed)
@carbootstudios2459
2 жыл бұрын
If only we got to have the Shadows as drivable vehicles
@lionocyborg6030
2 жыл бұрын
I always hated that we never got that when Halo 2 let us drive wraiths. Even Halo 3 eventually let us use AA Wraiths (albeit Forge maps in MCC only) and I also wish they kept using the Halo 2 design for the scarab mech, as well as letting us drive it.
@ddsjgvk
2 жыл бұрын
@@lionocyborg6030 you can actually glitch into the AA one but you gotta be fast. Yes campaign
@lionocyborg6030
2 жыл бұрын
@@ddsjgvk I've done it with my brother on ODST yes. I know it's possible in Halo 3 itself as well Halo 2 Shadows too.
@ALEX7DX
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing. Five minutes saved.
@VXGaming
2 жыл бұрын
Is it REPgroup or Regroup?
@redlight3786
2 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on how do brutes interact with the shadow please can they ride or drive it?
@LtB486
2 жыл бұрын
you put repgroup im pretty sure
@WackaMei
2 жыл бұрын
I tried this as a kid!
@anthonyporter3491
2 жыл бұрын
Fix it tomorrow
@monicarafanan7688
2 жыл бұрын
You finally figured it out! I’ve seen that happen so many times before you posted this video! You should’ve thought about this ages ago! lol 😆
@xenotebook
2 жыл бұрын
Did kind of wonder this back in the day, little lame nothing special happens. Also, typo on the title card.
@NeonMaster595
2 жыл бұрын
I’m good how are you and great video
@adlerains12
2 жыл бұрын
Does this only happen in MCC?
@pheonix8167
2 жыл бұрын
Why are u redoing this video when u done this back in 2012 or was 2016
@zaaz73
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing really happens tbh
@youshallnotpass2156
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe its a mcc bug still not fixed and not noticed You should try og xbox version or vista or project cartographer
@Espartanica
2 жыл бұрын
On the original it's the same.
@michaelmikulski7148
2 жыл бұрын
First. I like it
@TomMcD71
2 жыл бұрын
Hmm so only the first one makes it 🤔
@externalsv1584
2 жыл бұрын
What about Halo infinite
@GerultZRivivy
2 жыл бұрын
WAIT WHAT IF YOU DONT LET THEM REGROUP? I thought the tank was invincible and you were suppised to not chase up to it
@thelizardking3807
2 жыл бұрын
First person vehicles please
@bmxdude1337
2 жыл бұрын
I did let them regroup on the OG Xbox it toooooook forever, also I don’t think this is correct I’m pretty sure all 3 showed up unless I’m not remembering correctly
@lostkaiser1995
2 жыл бұрын
You are correct on OG Xbox all 3 make it to the end instead of just one like he showed in the video
@bmxdude1337
2 жыл бұрын
@@lostkaiser1995 alright I thought so, and when I did it I do remember it being fun because the little resistance waiting for you with 3 ghosts shooting at you did make it a challenge
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