Once again! Mike is always there to refresh my memory on stuff ive done 50 times over!
@pacificmike9501
3 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@joelouis6106
6 жыл бұрын
I like videos you do cause your so calm in explaining .
@pacificmike9501
6 жыл бұрын
That's the goal. We're doing our best effort to communicate. Thank you for the kind words.
@boady1111
5 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 the Bob Ross of Harley maintenance.
@My6stringer
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, I recently purchased a '79 FLH 80 shovelhead and am so glad I found your KZitem channel, I have been watching many and bookmarking them to reference back to them later. I am still making payments but will get the bike soon. Thanks again for your great attitude and amazingly informative vids.
@pacificmike9501
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@joebehanna5894
4 жыл бұрын
These videos covering the primary are right on time for me . Did as Mike showed us and now all is well with my shovel. Also Mike that video covering tappets and push rod adjustment help me out too! Thanks to you guys my bike is getting some much needed good wrenching. Thank you bruh. I'm so happy to have you as trusted advisor and guide.
@pacificmike9501
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad.
@jamescoffin640
7 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike! I just happen to be at this step and your video just helped me out a ton. Weird that im aligned without any thickness spacer so I’m thinking something is wrong.. gonna dig into it more tomorrow
@pacificmike9501
7 ай бұрын
It happens.
@theaveragepowerlifter3527
5 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated content Mike. Inherited my old mans 74 shovel and didn't get the chance to learn a whole lot about them before he passed. So these videos really give me some pointers! Keep up the great content and keep the Shovelhead content rollin! Shoutout from WV!
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
Okay. Just finally got my own Shovelhead up again.
@firebearva
3 жыл бұрын
When you said "Fisher" it made me think of Fisher Body from General Motors. I know dating myself, but Moses is older than I am.
@pacificmike9501
3 жыл бұрын
General Motors still has "Body By Fisher," don't they?
@ColinLawler24
4 ай бұрын
Mike you the person I immediately look to when trying to fix my 92 fatboy
@pacificmike9501
4 ай бұрын
Cool
@jrfromohio5087
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike - Going thru the Harley manual way of figuring out the compensating shim is pretty hard to understand. I have chain/ chain (79 FXE) & the clutch basket does not set under the primary like the manual says it is supposed to, so it has been an issue getting it set. Actually the primary, starter & solenoid have all been a challenge. Keep up the good work, love the videos, wish you guys were aorund me... there are hardly no shovelhead folks around anymore
@pacificmike9501
6 жыл бұрын
I hope our newest video on Shovelhead primary drives is a help to you. By the way, we shovelhead guys are still alive and well.
@ajkylen
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike I recently had my mechanic do a over all inspection of my 1995 Electra glide classic he found that my drive belt had some rock damage to my belt so we talked about replacing it with a gates belt . We also replaced the transmission finial drive pulley from a 32 teeth to a 34 I’m looking forward to taking her aka Lola on a trip to Montana this summer from Seattle Washington maybe even Wyoming thank you again for your wonderful video sleepless in Seattle.
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
Yah, I love tall gearing. Sounds like a great trip. Have fun. Give Lola my best.
@davemetz7368
5 жыл бұрын
You have so many people asking you questions, which I'm sure you are going to answer, therefore I will not ask you any. Just wanted to respond by saying thank you for such a simple explanation on what you described in this video.
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad it helps you.
@Swan-me2fy
2 жыл бұрын
I watch all of your videos and love every one of them. My wife even enjoys watching them. She laughs when she walks in the garage and I great her with "Welcome to Mike's garage". My names Mike as well. I would love to see you do a video on timing using the EZ Timer tool which I believe you have installed. I saw it previously on this video and just ordered one. I have a 71 FL that I just changed the transmission seal, a few transmission gaskets, replaced the 22 tooth sproket with a 24 tooth sprocket and I'm waiting on a diamond 530 chain. I bought a 530 "O" ring chain but it looks to be to tight and I don't want to trash my primary. Again thanks for doing such a great job. I've learned a ton from watching your videos.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
You know, if this helps you have a good time, that's quite a reward for me. Thank You. (and your sweet wife).
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
That trans sprocket is quite a bit larger and will probably need a couple more links on that final drive chain.
@tazalitaylor4056
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike ! It's great being able to look back & refresh on adjustments etc in our multi task world "Have great time at Born Free" ! ;-) 🏴☠🍀 Tink Land of Dragons West Wales 🖖
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@kevinc.9360
2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I found your youTube channel just in time. I have had my old hacked up 76 fxe under a tarp in my garage for about 20 years. Has a suicide clutch and tag/jockey shift. Always had big plans to mod it even more and make things right... Just last week finally got out there and started tearing it down. Some of your videos have been extremely helpful. I am sure I will have a few questions as I go...
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
Thanx for taking us along.
@bennyjones1597
5 жыл бұрын
No I really enjoyed that one that was a great bit of knowledge there loving them videos
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@joesurfer9754
4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do a video on ratchet top shifter maintenance like pawl inspection, Proper greasing pawl springs, pawl carrier springs etc. That is right up your ally. Many guys know nothing about it until they get stuck on the side of the road. If you dont want to take your inner primary off, you can find a buddy with an open primary ratchet top trans that will work or a spare transmission.
@pacificmike9501
4 жыл бұрын
As soon as one comes up, I'll do it and show it. That ratchet lid is probably the coolest thing Harley ever came up with.
@fiestygnome
2 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a 1981 Tour Glide that is equipped with a sealed rear drive chain enclosure assembly with a automatic chain drip oiler. It's time to replace the rear chain , and the lower pass of the chain rubber boot of this assembly is worn open at the bottom edge. I may be able to find a boot for it , but many people say it is more convenient to remove this enclosed system and add a chain guard. I have no experience with it yet , so I could use some advice. Thank You.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
The service manual shows it. It is a "bath," not a "drip." That final drive system is quite good, if not disturbed. Chains basically don't wear out with that thing on there. Too many people pulled them off without ever thinking what they may be. Once removed, nobody seemed to ever want to put them back on. The wheel can easily be removed by just removing the lug bolts. Another good idea that fell by the wayside. A chain submerged in oil will last a looong time. But, I also have no idea how hard it would be to get parts for that system.
@fiestygnome
2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Thank You Mike.
@REDMAN298
2 жыл бұрын
My `95 Softail was a pest for needing the primary adjusted so I put an M6 tensioner on it back then. Then my p.o.s. `09 road glide had a stuck auto chain tensioner do some damage ie: took out the trans. shaft bearing in the inner primary. I put on a Screaming Eagle manual primary chain adjuster. I lost confidence in the `09 after that and traded for a `16 street glide. I am back to an EVO Springer now and want no part of anything newer. The newer stuff just aint built right.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
We do have our preferences. I bought a new Shovelhead in '78. It was the last new 77FLH around. Well, it's still the newest motorcycle I own. (That's 44 years)
@REDMAN298
2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I bought a `781/2 FLH factory exec. in 1980. Worst Harley I ever owned. (amf) Made a good trade with it for my first Evo though.
@REDMAN298
2 жыл бұрын
Y`all just got flooded out there didn`t ya? Good luck with that.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
Thanx. No floods here. AMF saved a failing motorcycle company. The biggest problem those bikes had was the electrics. Everybody had bad electrics. They were the new "solid state" things and were killed by any heat, vibration, or oil. Remember that module that used to fail in Chevy's new solid state distributor? We could criticize a lot of stuff. However, 44 years later, I'm still riding my 77 FLH. Nothing much stock anymore.
@getoffmygrass6974
5 жыл бұрын
Mike, I like your sit down story videos. I would love to hear your take on AMF and your like and dislikes through those years. It's easy to look back and say they made crap and they almost killed Evil Knievel but you rode through those years where that was it if you wanted a HD. I think it would be a great video anyway, just a thought.
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
I like the thought. Because I normally talk too much, I've spoken of those things a lot. Let me bounce that around for a little while. It might interest you and me, but it might boar everyone else.
@FreedomRider1982
4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I for one would, I'm sure, find your thoughts on that interesting. In my opinion, there is a-lot of misconception and misunderstanding around that subject.
@ZachM1
4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I'd be another one that would like to hear your thoughts and experiences specifically about those years.
@thepretentiouspig424
6 жыл бұрын
82 FXB Shovel. Had to replace the belt once so far in 3 years. Still think I like a chain better.
@pacificmike9501
6 жыл бұрын
They both have their place. Belts are clean and nice. Chains allow easy ratio changes. Modern chains are way superior to what we had years ago. Interestingly enough, modern super bikes are still running chains. It seems chains are the most efficient source of transmitting power. Again, they both have their place.
@keesketsers5866
6 жыл бұрын
Charles Sturgeon : belt tension is VERY important. also never use aftermarket pulleys and belts, just use HD. Belts can last up to 100.000 miles. No chain is going to reach anywhere near that mileage. I have no preference, I like chains too, I just add a chain oiler and ride!
@brianpalmer4706
5 жыл бұрын
Great video's keep them comming
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. We try.
@ironearl69
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, Got a quick question for you with regards to the clutch hub and friction disc that is riveted to the hub; I accidently got WD 40 on the surface of the disc...is it now garbage or can it be cleaned or does it not matter? Thank you.
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
You probably won't notice a difference, but, I'd clean it with denatured alcohol.
@ironearl69
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time Mike. Much appreciated!
@jrfromohio5087
6 жыл бұрын
SO I put my inner primary together like you were saying in your other video, everything went together well, but the inner primary seems to have warped a bit...it that usual? Nothing seems to be not where it should so ??thoughts?
@pacificmike9501
6 жыл бұрын
Alignment is king. Therefore, a warp could mean replacing the inner primary housing. I'm sorry I can't see it from here. Remember, the transmission needs to be loose from it's mounting plate in order to align it with the housing and motor. Sometimes parts have been installed wrong and therefore, damaged.
@clintdenman3037
Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike I tell you what, you certainly have all the good things on your bike,but let me ask you, when you added the self adjusting tensioner did you buy it as a unit with your primary chain or did you split the chain,?.
@pacificmike9501
Жыл бұрын
The automatic tensioner assembles onto the chain. No need to break the chain.
@Swan-me2fy
2 жыл бұрын
I have a mostly stock 1971 FL and recently purchased the same timing piece that you have bolted to the two safety-wired inner primary bolts. Should I locate the 35 degree advance slash in the centered in the timing window, when it's moving up on the compression stroke of the front cylinder, and place a mark with high viz paint on the alternator cover that's aligned with the 35 degree mark on the timing device when the slash is centered in the timing window? I'm tired of the oil mist, the clear plug isn't worth using and I would really love your thoughts on the proper way to set this up. FYI - I have the M6 tensioner and my wife got me the Primo Rivera Pro clutch for Christmas that I'm installing this weekend. I told my wife that if Mike uses the Rivera clutch then that's the clutch I want. You're an awesome resource and I love all of your videos. THANKS!!!
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That's very cool. You'll probably have to grind the inner leg of the M6 to level it off because the 71 inner primary is not flat on the bottom. I also bend the two outer tabs down on the bottom shim to level it off. Pay close attention to the instructions on the Pro clutch. Do exactly as they tell you. That includes the use of the shims to flatten the spring and the use of antisieze on the studs. The timing device will work fine as you have figured it. That is your advance timing mark, so take the RPM's up and check your timing. I use the timing light through the inspection cover hole.
@Swan-me2fy
2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks Mike!!!!!!!!
@normppjr4429
5 жыл бұрын
Hello. Like the videos. My question is about the fisher damper. Is there much of a difference over a stock compensator when it comes to vibration at high way riding. Thank you.
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
It's not extreme. I like to think that balancing anything that spins is a good thing. At speed, I take it up to about 5mph over the speed I want to go, then back off about 5mph. I can feel it get a little smoother. I like it.
@georgejanz1313
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, reassembling the compensating sprocket
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
I need more info. Are you sure all of the parts are present?
@georgejanz1313
2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 thank you for my response and my apologies for my cryptic message. 100% sure I have all the parts. I've come to the conclusion that in this version of the shovelhead compensating sprocket that the retainer slash cover assembly which contains the spring is worn out. I bought the motorcycle used and discovered that it has 60 to 70,000 mi on it. I've also checked with resources knowledgeable in this area and we're all pretty much in agreement time for a new spring assembly. There's a lot of information available about what it sounds like and acts like when the compensating sprocket goes and the bike is assembled. There is very little information about how it feels when you actually assemble it. But I'm sure I should not be able to turn it with my hand when it is torqued to 150 ft pounds. I did find some information in a blog that more or less confirmed my opinion here. Again thank you for your response. I appreciate that you took time to read it as indecipherable as it probably sounded.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I'm repeating myself. Just realized it as I answer my morning comments. If different year compensators are mixed up, the nut can be too long.
@georgejanz1313
2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 that is an interesting one. I have two 1975 Super glides. One of them is close to original except for the painted front fender (blue). The other one has been through a couple of major "maintenance cycles" (black). It's the black one that is being challenging right now. There are only six parts to the assembly. Both bikes appear to have exactly the same set of parts. But I have not measured the nut that is torqued. I am assembling both bikes at the same time. I recently assembled the primary drive system in the blue bike and all looks good. I'm going to try the replacement part I bought for the black one and if that doesn't work I will take the blue one apart and compare things very carefully. Thank you for your response. The feedback is greatly appreciated on the long and winding road of knowledge acquisition.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
It really seems like something in that stack of parts is missing.
@janhennstrom7305
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike , i have checked jacketshaft, lenght is ok , copperwasher in the end, everything seems ok, but jacketgear do not engage with clutch gear ring more than perhaps less than half teeth but its perhaps ok /normally? cant find anything in my service manual /Janne
@pacificmike9501
3 жыл бұрын
I'd have to be there. Sorry that's not possible.
@janhennstrom7305
3 жыл бұрын
Understand , thanks anyway your videos is a goldmine to Watch 👍 /Janne in 🇸🇪
@trevoringraham1800
4 жыл бұрын
Mike I have come across a fisher damper and I want to install it on my bike. I have a 1982 FXE with a stock clutch, compensator, and primary chain tensioner. Going to install the M6 auto tensioner and the fisher compensator I have but wondering if you had to file down a tiny bit to the mounting hole boss on the inner and outer primary cover? The fisher just touches the cases and seems like I can just shave off a bit on the cases with a file and would be good. Is this something that you experienced when installing this larger diameter compensator?
@pacificmike9501
4 жыл бұрын
yep. You have to get a little creative.
@ironearl69
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, Quick question about clutch shells for shovels. I know there is a difference between a clutch shell for a '65 pan - '69 shovel versus a clutch shell for a '70 and up. The starter ring gear is located different . I believe the '65 - '69 the ring gear is stepped inward on the shell and the '70 and up is close to flush with the edge of the shell (towards the primary chain sprocket)...is this correct? Thanks.
@pacificmike9501
4 жыл бұрын
I'd have to put them side by side. They certainly carry a different part number and cannot be interchanged.
@MG-by1or
2 жыл бұрын
Mike, I just purchased to exact same set-up in excellent used condition, I was able to get literature on the pro clutch & M6 chain adjuster. Can't find anything on the Fisher damper, anything I need to know beyond the spacing with the belt drive spacers. Thanks, Mike
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
Not really. Bend tabs accordingly on a bottom, thick shim in order to level the M-6 Tensioner. Pay attention to the instructions on the Pro clutch and you'll love it. On the Fischer Damper, You'll have to relieve some area inside the outer primary cover. You'll find the improvement on that damper to be small but fun. If you want to go seventy, go seventy-five, then back-off to seventy and notice the smoothness kick in. Oops. You may have to relieve some material from the inner primary. I hope my comments help you. You neglected to tell me what the bike is. They do differ, you know.
@MG-by1or
2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 yeah I thought about that after I sent the comment, it's a 1973 FLH. The oem inner primary is cracked were the trans mainshaft bearing goes so I'm running an aftermarket one. Still using the oem outer primary.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
Grind one leg of the M-6 to make it sit level. Bend tabs on a thick shim to level the shoe. This is why I needed to know what the bike is. Your inner primary slopes to the outside. Level the M-6.
@fatboy90ish
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making such detailed videos for the shovels. I recently purchased a nos Fisher damper for my 78 fxe with no instructions. I'm just curious if there are any major differences or tricks on install compared to stock compensator other then the normal spacing. Thanks
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
I believe Genuine Fisher Products still exists. My old notes tell me: Genuine Fisher Products in Costa Mesa, California. Phone Number: 714-751-6723. I'll bet they can fix you up.
@chuckasarus
3 ай бұрын
Mike I have read a lot of good things about the Fisher damper. I'm trying to find out who sells them. Do you remember who does?
@pacificmike9501
3 ай бұрын
They are no longer being manufactured. They were produced by " Genuine Fischer."
@chadtaylor3663
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike. I have added forward controls to my 1976 FXE. The shifter that was originally installed mid ship is still sticking out of the primary cover. Is there anyway to remove that completely without taking the primary all the way apart? I see a lot of people talking about cutting it off and I’m not opposed to that but I do know that’s probably not the best way to go. Any help is appreciated as always
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
It seems to me, I used to remove the primary and put a pipe plug in the inner housing from the motor side and then replace the inspection cover. Yah, a lot of work, but you'll be happy when you're done. I remember guys tying the lever forward and leaving it in place. Someone even made a bracket for doing that. You obviously know what you'd like to do. "I can get by with it for now, but eventually, I'm gonna have to fix that."
@copper5567
Жыл бұрын
I just found your videos sir I lost my father last year and I got my dads 1979 harleydavidson flh 80 electra glide motor and I'm working on building it from the ground up it was his first ever bike and it will be my first ever bike do you have a recommendation on a manual or book to use along with these videos to help me out thank you sir
@pacificmike9501
Жыл бұрын
The best manual is the Genuine Harley Davidson Service Manual. I believe V-Twin (Tedd Cycle) will have the year and model specific manual for you.
@georgejanz1313
2 жыл бұрын
Tumbling the compensating sprocket on my 76 shovelhead. Referring to the manual on page 76 they reference the cover that goes over the compensating sprocket as the retainer / cover assembly. When I torque everything down I can still spin this with my hand. That doesn't seem to be right does it? Torking to over 100 ft pounds. I think it means the springs in the retainer are shot and I need a new one. I've been to the operation about four times so I'm concluding that the springs in my compensating sprocket are shot. Makes sense? As always appreciate your knowledgeable guidance.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it makes sense, but not likely. Make sure all of the assembly is there. If that big nut bottoms before the spring compresses, the compensator will still be loose. If your sprocket shaft came loose, the whole thing is spinning in the flywheel and you'll require a complete engine teardown. Was the bike running?
@georgejanz1313
2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 thanks. The engine bottom end has recently been completely rebuilt and has not been started since the rebuild. I trust the builder and there are many examples of his work which are all top quality. Although I have never had any work done by this individual before, I am confident in the work. The nut which threads on to the end of the crankshaft bottoms before the spring compresses. Therefore, I can turn the compensator by hand when torqued to 160 lb. I have gone ahead and acquired another compensator. Waiting for that to arrive. Meanwhile there are a plethora of other tasks I can tend to. Thank you for your response, advice, and interest.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. There is a good chance you're missing a part in that compensator.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
And maybe too long a nut.
@joegianna1261
3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed watching & learning what you have to share, thank you. I have questions I hope you can answer for me. Bought my '70 FLH on 11/22/76. Looking to modify it for the last time for comfort and reliability. My concern pertains to the primary drive. I cannot find a source to acquire the Fischer Damper and does cut down on vibration. That is the comfort portion that I wish to achieve & do you think it would be a reliable modification. Thank you for any info you can provide.- Joe
@pacificmike9501
3 жыл бұрын
I've run one of those Fischer Dampers for many trouble free years. Does it really help vibration? I think it takes out a little I can feel and probably more I don't feel. I also put one on my buddy Jim's bike years ago. Problem is, I don't know that they are still being made. They were produced by a company known as "Genuine Fischer," in Santa Fe Springs, CA.
@thechecksinthemail
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the wealth of knowledge you share, thank you! Having trouble aligning a bdl belt drive w/ tensioner in a closed primary. 1979 FXEF w/ S&S 5in4 case. Belt rubs inside of inner primary and created a groove and it rides inside of front pulley. Installed inner primary as per manual and used your video as a guide. Is there any other way to better align this setup?
@pacificmike9501
3 жыл бұрын
I would need to look at it and study for a while. Every time you think you know something well, a new issue comes up. If your output shaft on your engine and your transmission mainshaft are in the same plane, it sounds like your clutch basket is in too far. That's quite an issue. I assume you're using a BDL clutch. You may have to contact them. You can't have a new problem. I'm sure it's happened before. These things occur when we mix and match several brands that have different tollerances. Again, make sure your shafts are in the same plane. A piece of plate glass layed on top of the pulleys with the belt removed will suffice.
@paulduersonjr9043
10 ай бұрын
I've got a 68 flh pasted down from my brother who I has past away I need to know what weight oill goes in it and what brake fluid is best for it Thanks in advance
@pacificmike9501
10 ай бұрын
Buy a service manual. No matter what, buy a service manual (V-Twin in Newyork should have the right one for you). Is the bike stock? You'll be able to tell with a service manual. Some things have improved. I run modern 20/50 oil in my relics. Stock brake fluid for a 68 would be dot 3. If it has late model brakes on it, probably dot 5. Don't know all that you have.
@paulduersonjr9043
10 ай бұрын
@pacificmike9501 Thanks I'll get a service manual and go from there will continue to look at your video's they are helpful Thanks again
@jang6969
2 жыл бұрын
👍👍 🇨🇦
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@brianfreeman3827
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike thanks for the videos, where can I buy the Fisher dampner ?
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
They aren't made any more and I can't find Genuine Fischer anymore. Sorry.
@kyliebeaver6093
4 жыл бұрын
mick from Australia G'Day
@pacificmike9501
4 жыл бұрын
Backatcha.
@paulrash6875
3 жыл бұрын
My primary has the stock setup but the clutch releases uneven and there is runout when it's turning I have video
@pacificmike9501
3 жыл бұрын
You'll have to go step by step and service the whole thing.
@jswan0717
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, just picked up a 1974 FLH. Was wondering if increasing the compensator sprocket(motor sprocket) is possible to a 25 tooth to help out with highway speeds. Is there enough room or possible?
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
There is enough room. You'll need the sprocket and a longer primary chain. A much easier and less expensive way to go, would be to change your rear wheel sprocket to a 49, 48, or 47 tooth, shorten the rear chain as needed, and you're done and can easily experiment around with whatever combination you and your bike enjoy thee most.
@jswan0717
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice! I’ll most likely go that way. Loving the content here in Wisconsin
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
Cool. Thank you.
@JohnPaul-ve4pg
Жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 i just went from 51 to 47 on my ‘74 FXE and it gave me an additional 10-15 mph at the same rpm when traveling over 65 mph.
@charlottesantafe1709
2 жыл бұрын
What's a ballpark on that entire set up Mike? Need to replace :/. Thanks for another helpful video.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't worked for money in years. I don't know what things cost any more. Back when I did this setup ( and it was all available), that's all top notch stuff and it was expensive then. I think I spent about a grand putting that primary together. You know, like when you pay the rent late and eat top ramon for a month or so. You know, like that.
@charlottesantafe1709
2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 okay, that all makes sense- thanks. I'll need to explore current best options then. Meantime, I have a primary case that's been welded, has a leak and am planning on learning to angle the bike over on a 2x4 that's on top of a 4x4 so I can add primary fluid. Looked easy when my mechanic did and explained it while I watched. :/. Fun stuff!
@josephmcglynn320
2 жыл бұрын
I have a74 shovel head trying to change the stator. I don’t know much about it I’m learning can you do a video how to change a stator on a 74 fx shovelhead
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
I assume you mean a 1974 FX. It's cool. 1970-84 FX or FL would all be about the same. I do these things as they come up. I haven't needed to do one of those for quite a while (not since I reinstalled the motor in my Shovelhead). It's quite involved because the factory didn't make the inner primary opening large enough to remove the alternator rotor without removing the inner primary housing first. This makes it quite a lengthy procedure. You'll need to remove the starter solenoid, the starter and the entire primary drive. Then remove the inner primary housing and lastly, the alternator parts, first the rotor, then the stator. Be sure you disconnect the battery first.
@Nickolas64
4 жыл бұрын
I just shimmed my sprocket/compensator to align the primary chain and now I can't get my outer primary cover on. Suggestions?
@pacificmike9501
4 жыл бұрын
Check first to see if your clutch hub is seated on the mainshaft. The next question is: Has this machine been together before? Do you have the right transmission mainshaft for your motor? Pretty hard to tell from here. Don't know what model, or year your dealing with, or what years you may be mixing together. Whatcha got?
@Nickolas64
4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I'll get back out and look at it tomorrow. It's a 73 FLH. Bought it last November and in the process of replacing all gaskets and seals. Anyway the engine matches the frame serial number and the trans has the correct letter K stamped on it. Somebody's been into it there's quite a few aftermarket parts on it. The primary isn't stock it's a lifeline I think the name is on the chrome inner/outer case. When I pulled the outer off before I even did anything else you can clearly see it's been rubbing on it awhile . Before I adjusted the chain with a few shims it was rubbing on the case already. Now with the chain lined up , teeth in the middle there's about a quarter inch of space between the inner and outer cvr on the compensator. I'll get back out and look at it tomorrow. I did notice when I put the clutch basket on the hub assembly it wasn't flush . It stuck out a bit. So maybe something there is off. But looking with a small mirror at the backside of the hub it's against it all the way. Nut is on torqued down. I'll take it back off and look it all over again. Interesting though before i did anything to it I noticed it's been rubbing the case already on the compensator. I had to put three thick shims on it to get the chain centered. Something's got to be off... I'll let you know what I find... Thanks ...
@Nickolas64
4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Took it all back apart and looked it over good this morning. Hub was/is seated all the way. Starter ring gear is even with the edge of primary housing. What I said looked off is Normal actually it's just made that way. So I don't know what the deal is. I took all shims off and just added one to bring it over a bit more. I think it will be ok my cover fits now but just does however the gasket will give me a little extra clearance needed to be ok and seal. I'm using gaskacinch on my gaskets it's good stuff. Shouldn't have any leaks. I did away with the factory primary oiling and put plugs in the case. Left the chain oiler hose hanging shortened up as a breather. Going to add just enough oil to touch the ring gear to toss a little lube up on the chain. Clutch is a sifton dry clutch I believe. I cleaned up all the disks and plates so will see how it goes. I may get a set of wet/dry disks if I have and clutch issues. So I wonder how much difference there is between the factory primary case and this aftermarket lifeline case in depth? Maybe that's what it is I dunno. I was thinking about doing away with the compensator and just putting a gear on the motor. That would take care of my clearance issue. I ride my bikes easy im not a speed Demon anymore or ride hard at all I just cruise. Good sound, look and ride is all I'm about. Let all the others pass me by im good at my own pace... Thanks for your help.
@keeto56
Жыл бұрын
I need to find that video on that timing piece you have in there.
@pacificmike9501
Жыл бұрын
I don't know. I believe it is in the V-Twin catalog.
@ironearl69
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, quick question; do you ever install the thrust washer that goes on the jackshaft between the gear and needle bearing in the starter housing? Looks almost impossible to do with the inner primary installed in advance. Thanks in advance for your help.
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
There is no thrust washer in the starter housing. Don't forget the copper thrust washer that goes on the other end of the jackshaft, against the outer primary.
@ironearl69
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I know you are busy so thank you for your reply. I am sure you must have a Clymer or HD manual for Shovelheads and it is very clear there is a thrust washer as I said between the needle bearing in the starter shaft housing and the drive gear. Installing this TW looks to be a pain, but it is definitely the way the manuals show, along with J&P Cycle shows it as OEM 13501-65. It must help slow wear between the drive gear and housing. Your thoughts??
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
I think you got me. This one has me bothered. I've put an awful lot of those starter housings on. I was doing it before evos existed. But, I don't remember that thrust washer. I simply answered you from the top of my head. So, when you wrote back, I opened a parts manual,and there it was! So, I thought pretty hard about it and I don't have a housing loose to look at. Tomorrow, I'm going over to a buddy's house who might have one off. My thought is, "If I never installed a thrust washer on the inside of that housing, there must be one staked in there by the factory." I've replaced the needle bearing before. More will be revealed.
@ironearl69
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I appreciate your reply. I think most people install without the thrust washer because it is far easier and can be done in place on the bike. I know in the manuals it says to stake it, but not sure how you would actually do that. Gravity is not your friend in this scenario. Please let me know what you come up with. It makes sense to have it in there though. I was going to assemble the starter housing and jackshaft away from the bike so I could install the jackshaft in a vertical position with the housing below it so I don't have to fight gravity. Likely take a bit to get the drive gear on top of the TW and needle bearing, but that is all I can come up with in my mind. Have you ever noticed any wear that could be attributed to the drive gear having excessive slop...maybe excessive gear wear or damage to the inside of the starter housing?
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
I've never replaced that thrust washer, so I drew a blank. I don't have an extra starter housing to look at. But, if the factory staked it in, that's why we haven't had to replace them. I do remember replacing the bearing in the housing. If that thrust washer is staked in place, where's the problem? You insert the jackshaft from the outside with everything out of the way, especially, the solenoid. You wiggle it carefully to engage the gear inside the starter housing. Some of these operations are a little difficult. There's no gravity fight. You don't install the jackshaft off of the bike.
@markmcsheffrey7174
Ай бұрын
I'm doing a belt is it the same /thanks
@pacificmike9501
Ай бұрын
No. Go with the belt drive's factory specs.
@janhennstrom7305
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, how much shall startsprocket teeth overlap clutch teeth in start position? My overlap just half teeth Regards /Janne
@pacificmike9501
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean. To begin with, I need to know what the motorcycle is. Make, year, model, and what's been changed in the start system. Is it stock? Are you running a chain or belt drive? Does it have an inner and outer primary cover? I'll help if I can, but I haven't a clue as to what you're dealing with.
@edray9766
4 жыл бұрын
Mike; love your videos. I've a '76 FXE that I had the heads drilled for dual plugs back in the 80's. I've not ridden it for decades but want to get it running again. I've never seen any information on what the timing setting is for dual plug heads nor how to set that timing. Years ago and lacking information I just set the timing for stock using the hole in the engine case but it was always spitting through the carb. Do you know what the timing setting should be as well as how to set it or a source for this information? I've a modern timing light that allows varying the timing with the light.
@pacificmike9501
4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. Time, experimentation, and advice has taught me to retard the timing a little from stock with dual plugs. Don't know your cam. Don't know your ignition. I try not to suggest spending lots of money, but a modern electronic ignition, you can set on a laptop, and I'm just saying, approx. 28 degrees total advance may help you.
@edray9766
4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Thank you
@shaneman1861
5 жыл бұрын
"See you out on the road" mike....
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
I'll look forward to it.
@Nickolas64
4 жыл бұрын
Brother Mike how's it going? I figure this is a good place to ask a question. Why is it so damn hard to seal up the primary on a Shovelhead? I'm having a hell of a time trying to get mine sealed. It's down to a drip but it shouldn't leak at all. I plugged off the oil return hoses and such for factory oiling and put 6oz of straight 30 weight oil in a sealed up case. I had trans fluid in but it really leaked good with that in there. Now with motor oil it's much better but it still leaks a bit. I was thinking these aftermarket covers being totally covered in Chrome was the culprit. Chrome on the sealing surface is so slick the oil is seeping between the cover and gasket. I torqued it to 70 inch lbs and I'm down to a drip but it shouldn't leak at all!! I used sandpaper and roughed up the surface and I think it helped but still right at the dip or bottom point where the drain plug is it leaks. I see there are different style gaskets and mine matches the inner primary real nice but the outer cover not so much. It's a Lifeline inner and outer cover. Three times I've taken it off and resealed it but it still has a drip. Gasket and then with silicone, just silicone only and it leaks. This is quite annoying. I just rebuilt this motor and everywhere else is nice and dry. About 55 miles now. Motor is nice and quiet thanks to your countersunk tip on the rocker arm spacer I got all to .008 clearance. I'm really liking the sound of the motor it's much better than it was before I rebuilt it. I got the cylinders honed, put in new pistons, rings, adjusted rocker side clearance, torqued to 65 ft lbs on heads and retorqued after a couple heat cycles which it needed . A good 1/4 or tad more turn on the head bolts retorqueing. Made myself a pretty sweet motor it starts and idles so nice, pulls strong. Anyway that damn primary leak man what a pain. I put pure black silicone the last time on good clean parts. Even bead on both sides set, torqued after an hour set, 24 hour cure before adding fluid and it still has a drip!!! I still think it's the chrome surface but after I switched to 30 weight oil, sanded the surface it's down to a drip from a worse leak. Any suggestions? I know damn well these can be sealed without going to a belt drive... Maybe I need to put a little hair around it we used to say...😃.... ✌... Thanks in advance for your response I appreciate the conversation and advice brother...
@pacificmike9501
4 жыл бұрын
That primary was designed well to work the way it was designed. That's not the way you're trying to use it. I use the standard circulating system on my Shovelhead. It's been working well for over 400,000 miles.
@Nickolas64
4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I hear ya but I dont like the idea of that dirty oil circulating through the motor. Pieces of old clutch or if a tooth off the ring gear breaks off and gets pulled into your oil pump or motor that's not good. I've heard of it happening. Like you I've heard of guys running it stock too without issue. Still it should seal theres no reason why it shouldn't seal. Theres oil in it with the stock oiling as well however not 6 ozs at a time but still is sealed up tight. I'll keep messing with it I'm just not liking the factory dirty oil sucked back into the engine to me it's a bad design . It may work but it makes me cringe knowing what could get sucked into the motor...
@jayknight850
Жыл бұрын
I am late to the conversation, but my 2 cents, the oil returns from the primary and runs through the filter before it is returned to the tank. Also I have a 10 pass oil cooler, that should keep the oil supply in the primary cooler. It is on my 67 FLH rocker clutch. Of course that doesn’t have any effect on your chronic leak, I know that is frustrating.
@janhennstrom7305
3 жыл бұрын
Hi , it’s a 1978 shovelhead super glide fxe original , with primary chain outer and inner cover , same as in the video testning startsprocket with special made tool , can send a photo if possible ? Regards /Janne
@pacificmike9501
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, the bike is not opened at this time.
@scottmcaninch6255
4 жыл бұрын
☮
@pacificmike9501
4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@rickstout7626
5 жыл бұрын
How about a vid on the installation of the starter and related components …..I have a 65 that is a kick start only ,with a tin primary. Im thinking of installing the e- start , I have priced out all the parts from v-twin ,but I think ther is more to it than I know
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, there are a lot of parts involved: The inner and outer primary housings, the original type chain drive with the starter ring on the clutch basket, and the chain tensioner. You will need a transmission case with the ears for mounting the inner primary and the correct length mainshaft in the transmission. You will then need the starter with it's drive and mounting bracket. All of the fittings for the oil lines required for the primary and the solenoid with it's related hardware. A powerful battery is necessary. It's a long list. We do this stuff as it comes up, but I don't see it happening in the near future. I wish we could do everything we're asked. This is not unreasonable, just quite a few parts. Since this bike has been modified, I don't know what you do or don't have. 1965 was the first year for electric starters on the Big Twin. I'm assuming this is a Panhead, rather than a Sportster, and I'm assuming it is in a stock frame.
@rickstout7626
5 жыл бұрын
yes ita panhead ,got the ears on the tranny . will the starter fit under a horseshoe oil tank ? I can put a starting battery in the saddle bag if I cant fit it in the oil tank slot ….
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you're using a stock frame or, if you are, an aftermarket tank that is made for an electric starter. The frame was raised for the '65 to make space for the starter and the original tank and battery box. There's a lot of stuff to be considered here.
@jeffreylonigro1382
5 жыл бұрын
How does he like the fisher dampener?
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
It works well. Smooths things out a bit at freeway speeds.
@DoRC
6 жыл бұрын
Man, that front tire....
@pacificmike9501
6 жыл бұрын
I think you meant that in a positive way. If so, thank you, I love it.
@arcio158
5 жыл бұрын
Hi. How much oil should have a Primary in Panhead 1965?
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
1965 was the first year of the recirculating primary system. You don't pour it in. It has a complete system. Refer to your service manual for pictures. Your bike may have been modified.
@arcio158
5 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 THANKS You so much!
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
Glad to help.
@janhennstrom7305
3 жыл бұрын
Ok :-) please let me know about the possibility to post some photos to clarify the issue , on youtube comments it seems not possible to post , here in Sweden as i live is early morning now Regards /Janne
@pacificmike9501
3 жыл бұрын
Well, Good Morning! Okay, I'm still not sure. Is every part in place? Is the jackshaft the question? Do you have the copper washer on the end of it? Is the spring inside the solenoid? These are just typical issues.
@janhennstrom7305
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, i check this, so teeth overlap suppose to be at least half teeth or Moore ?
@paulrash6875
2 жыл бұрын
What clutch is that
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
That is a Rivera Pro Clutch.
@paulrash6875
2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 thank you
@MoeLarrycurly1
5 жыл бұрын
🖖🏽🖖🏽👍🏼
@pacificmike9501
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@paulmcquaid8696
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. have you ever tried to install a hydraulic type primary chain tensioner? It runs on the primary oil.I have searched the whole of the internet to see if there is anyone that has done a video on this. It's made by Zodiac and Motorcycle Storehouse. I managed to source some instructions from sohotbikes.com. i thought i would just put it out there for a possible video. Ride safe.
@pacificmike9501
4 жыл бұрын
I normally use M6 self-adjusting tensioners. Have not had good luck with the hydraulic units.
@paulmcquaid8696
4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Oh does that mean they are no good? Only i was looking at the write ups of the automatic type and they were mentioning they can over adjust on over zealous acceleration. What problems did you have with the hydraulic one? As they seem to be a good design to me.
@REDMAN298
2 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention the junk compensator sprockets. $500 for a baker sprocket??? Come on.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a Baker sprocket. I have a Genuine Fischer balancer (no longer available). And, I have a Rivera Pro Clutch. What I do have is a Baker six speed trans I'm in love with. I've had it for around twenty years. I wasn't advertising parts there. But that's what I run. I believe I've mentioned, "This bike was my test bench for many years." It has all kinds of things that I wouldn't sell in my shop until I had tried them myself.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
I don't have one. My Shovelhead has a Genuine Fischer vibration damper (No longer available), a Rivera Pro Clutch, and an M-6 Tensioner. I also have a Baker six speed in it that I've had for approx. twenty years. I love all of those parts. This bike (besides being my road bike for 44 years) was my test bench for new products in my shop. It's got bunches of goodies. I tested things on my own bike before I could sell them to people.
@pacificmike9501
2 жыл бұрын
I just had to stop and explain things to my computer. I believe I just answered one comment twice. Sorry 'bout that.
@REDMAN298
2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I`ve not heard anything bad about Baker parts durability. Do you seriously think they are reasonably priced? I respect your opinion.
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