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The difference between Scarlett and Jaedong when dealing with this exact build from Terran is basically Scarlett basically tries to go almost all in, but Jaedong tries to be cost effective. The amount of money Scarlett spent in the first game to crush Bomber's composition was not even close to cost effective, but it is pretty much necessary to do that against this particular build. A gamble, basically.
@berengerchristy6256
11 жыл бұрын
that last hellion kicked so much ass
@ljp200
11 жыл бұрын
True, but not sure it would work as such an army would be extremely slow and cumbersome. And the terran could simply add a few bashees and tanks all the while using the immobility of the swarm hosts to drop everywhere.
@endplanets
11 жыл бұрын
I thought she was going to perform a desperation Nydus Tunnel. Oh well, another win for the superior Terrans.
@cramtoro
11 жыл бұрын
yeah I agree, additionally, Reduce splash damage, Reduce splash area and increase reload time
@chaosrave
11 жыл бұрын
with overlord spread you would see all drops and you can stop them with roaches. That is why you get roaches before your swarmhosts that can stop hellions and give you chance to get a third before your SH... and if you are dying to a few banshees then you need to scout better and prepare spores
@WorldOfDeepThought
11 жыл бұрын
Than you have range upgrades and can't go into ultralisks. I think roaches can work great in this matchup when combined with zerglings and banelings though because they negate the kiting of the marines (roaches can't shoot fast anyway. so they don't lose that much dps).
@TheJimmyJLC
11 жыл бұрын
What you just isn't true, if it was every Terran would play like Bomber, but it's just not that easy. You don't seem to take into account how much practising these players do, to be able to micro like Bomber is incredibly hard that's achieved over a long period of time.
@Sodendop
11 жыл бұрын
Great match so far
@DangerDavez
11 жыл бұрын
Maybe Terran needs more effort to micro ( although widow mines make it really hard on zerg) but as zerg you need to inject, scout, spread creep, manage overlords and defend more bases. Terran macro is super easy and all you really need to do is drop a couple mules once in a while and hold down A.
@Mainganens
11 жыл бұрын
Surprised we never see her use vipers as you throw a blinding cloud on stutter stepping marines and they will run head first into your banelings, not too mention being able to pull medivacs and unburrow widow mines with its abduct ability.
@blartheflarg
11 жыл бұрын
Baneling, the new vortex.
@ThatSic
11 жыл бұрын
Maybe Zerg should try other strategies than ling/bane/muta since it never works out great. 1 Widow mine >> 1 Baneling (almost same cost) 1 Marine > 2 Zerglings (exactly same cost) 1 Medivac > 1 Muta (exactly same cost) Why not try e.g. Roach/Hydra/Viper? Is it because of the lack of protection against drops? I would rather lose a little here and there to drops than constantly lose my army in the big engagements.
@The123567891
11 жыл бұрын
Or may be make them visible when they hide on Creep. But it will not solve the problem when marines+medivac can bite any zerg units.
@CollectiveFury
11 жыл бұрын
Scarlett's VS Bomber decided the winner of WCS, not Jaedong VS Bomber. I'm glad that the Widow Mine is getting nerfed, but it's too late. Scarlett would have won these matchups had she played VS a balanced Widow Mine.
@chaosrave
11 жыл бұрын
swarm host counters both marauders and widowmines... the only thing they can do is drop on top of your swarm hosts... and that is when you have roaches protecting them
@Altheion
11 жыл бұрын
For people that complain that Terran is OP, try actually playing them against banelings and see how far you'll get, you need insane APM and skill to play like bomber does, and even he lost to banelings in game one, you argue that Terran only needs Marines and mines well, I can argue that only zerg needs are banelings that require no micro nor skill to use while I need to setup mines like a god and micro the living hell out of my marines to survive, Zerg = no effort banelings
@L0DBaal
11 жыл бұрын
True, but I dunno about vipers: drops come earlier than Hives usually and Vipers cost quiet a lot for limited purpose: I'd rather go Roach hydra with some infest WOL style...but again the Fungal has been nerfed....And there's a little prob with Roach hydra nowadays: since FG is harder to cast , if you miss, the marauders will never die because of the medivacs healing quicker than roaches dps O_o! Maybe "hybrid zerg"? Infestor mass ling bling muta? Stephano style?!
@Malacite
11 жыл бұрын
So is the muta regen though. That buff seriously needs to be undone now that WM are being nerfed because muta balls are just completely destroying the meta in all match ups. Mass muta balls just get entirely out of hand and outside of going mass phoenix are extremely difficult to stop.
@SaccoBelmonte
11 жыл бұрын
great game!
@L0DBaal
11 жыл бұрын
Mass marines says bitch please,no x-P ?! As P though it's true, archons and stalkers do good as long as mutas aren't upgraded or more than 25! Otherwise only Skytoss, starting with phoenix can keep up!
@nerflirui
11 жыл бұрын
Scarlett herself, 10 years ago...
@Gotalch
11 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, what happens when the fire bats take on three Zerg unit combinations during a heal phase from a medivac?
@albertro6051
11 жыл бұрын
what do you think about that: make widows mines visible, while they "reload"
@DJ_Osiris
11 жыл бұрын
Scarlett is a very good player. Bomber is unstoppable.
@ClashOFClans2you
11 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@thezquad
11 жыл бұрын
Marines are extremely effective against zerg.
@ljp200
11 жыл бұрын
Adding a few mauraders for Terran is just too easy and Roaches in high numbers are impossible against widow mines due to the low range of the roach.
@chaosrave
11 жыл бұрын
id like to see roach, muta... bannelings are just bad against widowmines and even marines
@M00nMan93
11 жыл бұрын
please direct me to a man named scarlett...
@PhillipandMolly
11 жыл бұрын
Terran beat the op bailings that dont even do friendly splash damage?
@studlynesss
11 жыл бұрын
Widow mines are just stupid, way to go Blizzard, how the hell does it take this long to nerf that nonsense.
@Seventhkeyblade
11 жыл бұрын
mooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrr!
@WorldOfDeepThought
11 жыл бұрын
lings can tank marauder damage
@05makros
11 жыл бұрын
a terran massing marines, wow so strange and uncommon ...
@Waaagh0
11 жыл бұрын
Only me who skipps the first 5 minutes of sc2-videos most of the time?
@RedSquadMike
11 жыл бұрын
sHE's so good wtf
@Jimbob84141
11 жыл бұрын
Well I just saw a scientific report showing women actually can multi task more efficiently - the boys better be worried!
@MrBoo0oo
11 жыл бұрын
Bomber - playing terran like a zerg
@Ramon7948
11 жыл бұрын
how to repeat building units people??
@YTExistor
11 жыл бұрын
me first ten minutes. Lets watch C&C2013, this game may have action from 1st minute of game
@Strafka
11 жыл бұрын
Another game showcasing just how stupid widow mines are.
@TheVeryCat
11 жыл бұрын
Google it, guys... Scarlett indeed is a she, her real name is Sacha Hostyn, and she definitely is a girl. HD is right.
@aaronrichards3079
11 жыл бұрын
Why would you even ask that? wiki()teamliquid()net/starcraft2/Scarlett Seriously, why would he constantly call a dude she the entire two games?
@nerflirui
11 жыл бұрын
Wait... 00:44 Scarlett is a "she"?!
@carom1
11 жыл бұрын
Because it's broken as fuck and too cost efficient.
@AcidBugler
11 жыл бұрын
kinda annoying how every single terran build just consists of what is "hot" based on patch nerfs, pro games are starting to become stale lol. EVERYONE did hellbat drops till they were fixed, now that they arent broken they arent even used. and its all widow mine marine mvac all day everyday with the occasional tank.
@crdude806
11 жыл бұрын
scarlett > JEADONG
@476Cole
11 жыл бұрын
Bomber is probably the most boring player to watch, every game he just uses mass marines.
@sagan61
11 жыл бұрын
nerf marines
@DJ_Osiris
11 жыл бұрын
No Scarlet is transgender, used to be a guy.
@P500P500
11 жыл бұрын
Winning or losing a game decided by a luck based unit... You can strategically place them, but the rest is luck. Such a stupid idea for a skills based game.
@ParleLeVu
11 жыл бұрын
HE
@mindsprawl
11 жыл бұрын
infestors
@CheeKiatTeo
11 жыл бұрын
Is scarlet really a girl?
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
11 жыл бұрын
Yes and also make them cost 1k min each. Shut up
@haruc
11 жыл бұрын
Hey HD, pls stop casting TvZ. It's just stupid and painful to watch. All games just play out as a banebust back in wol... just takes longer. marines, mules, an a few mines... zerg can do shit, as all counters cost gas lke hell. cast em when this issue got fixed. thx, always a big fan
@Strafka
11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but she used to be a he.
@MrRobotClouds
11 жыл бұрын
I know there is a lot more going on here- but come on, seriously? 93 marines? Ugh how boring. Seriously. Boring.
@cramtoro
11 жыл бұрын
so boring.. why does the terran need to build anything else than Marine, Widow Mine and Medvac... so OP vs Zerg... boring
@crdude806
11 жыл бұрын
lol terran gets nothing but nerf's you fail .. get guud and l2p
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