We should be able to celebrate every race. Even the bad ones.
@firesong7825
3 ай бұрын
Lmao
@luisgonzaga9286
3 ай бұрын
That can end up with really and I mean really bad results, literally you would create KKK month
@noctyd9322
3 ай бұрын
Lmao wtf
@leoartolson4658
3 ай бұрын
Nice bait
@itsjayswelly
3 ай бұрын
This guy is on EVERY destiny video on EVERY destiny channel
@azazfall9
3 ай бұрын
if you're from Europe, this whole discussion makes no sense whatsoever. There's so many different cultures here, all white people, with different kinds of stereotypes associated with all of them...
@aguspuig6615
3 ай бұрын
yeah but you can still have pride in the collective shared points between them. Im from Europe, and i often feel more proud to be european, western or even white than my own specific country
@chickenandksivideoreviewer9739
3 ай бұрын
Just because a group is composed of other groups, it doesn't make that grouping meaningless. My immediate family is more closely related to me than my first cousins, but my first cousins are closer than my than my third cousins. Extrapolate this x1000
@MrPooperrr
3 ай бұрын
I think the distinction in this discussion would be Europeans in America. It’s easier to feel pride/comradery in a foreign land
@Pauldwyn
3 ай бұрын
Because we're a nation of immigrants, it's not supposed to make sense to the European mind. Or any other continent for that matter.
@presko
3 ай бұрын
@@aguspuig6615 you feel more proud to be white than to specify your country? where are you from
@xvjk5007x
3 ай бұрын
That pivot to "get over slavery already" gave me whiplash.
@Mmmm-tx6qc
3 ай бұрын
he was itching for it lmao
@leoartolson4658
3 ай бұрын
Europeans should have every right to express their heritage, but it should not be labeled as “white pride.” The crossing over of European Nationalist and white supremacist communities has caused a great issue for those of European descent to take pride in themselves and their heritage in a similar fashion as the African, Asian, and middle eastern descents which is very tragic in my honest opinions.
@vixozas
3 ай бұрын
You should understand that if someone is proud of their race, they will be racist. That's a fact. If you look by these standards, of course you will be a racist. That's why racism is on the rise from black people because it's all about race (from media, goverment, companies). It's also worth noting that many black people know their roots. We don't live in the 1860s, many black people came to this land with knowledge after that.
@radicalcentrist5665
3 ай бұрын
The solution is so easy to see. If you have French heritage and want to have a French pride parade where you drink wine and eat baguettes, then no one will care. Or if you do German pride and you eat sausages and drink beer. The issue is that 99% of people who want white pride events are advocating for it because they are racist or trying to pushback against “wokeness.”
@greyjedi1272
3 ай бұрын
It’s interesting when people talk about their culture and they can point to things. Like a friend of mine from high school loved his family coat of Arms. He was Scott/Irish, but he would never say white culture as those cultural as the loved where that of a certain group. Too many people just want to lump people together because that have some similarity that’s only skin deep.
@low_vibration
3 ай бұрын
the english and the irish are basically the same thing because they're both "white" right?
@jaybrosbarber2751
3 ай бұрын
@low_vibration if you were to say that to an Irish person that might punch you.
@chato7621
3 ай бұрын
Why be proud of something you did not earn?
@MagicBrianTricks
3 ай бұрын
What did anyone earn?
@Maxarcc
3 ай бұрын
Because pride has to do with social status, which means you can be proud of others you associate with as well. For example, a parent can be proud of their kids for getting a good grade, and someone can be proud of the achievements of a group they feel connected to.
@chato7621
3 ай бұрын
@@Maxarcc I simply find it silly. I believe pride should solely be reserved for the achievements of oneself.
@roymarshall_
3 ай бұрын
@@chato7621 I do not believe that you actually believe this. If you are a human who has existed around other humans, you have felt pride for things you did not do. That is a core aspect of living with other human beings in any kind of society.
@chato7621
3 ай бұрын
@@roymarshall_ Well, if you aren’t going to believe me, I’m not sure what to tell you. This is a genuine belief.
@dubwubwubstek244
3 ай бұрын
White people should be proud of their nationality like Finnish, Romanian, French, German etc. instead of their race because as a hodgepodge "the white race" has no unified culture because "whiteness" is arbitrary and an antiquated concept in general... (americans didn't used to consider irish people "white") specifically the way african-american people were brought about leaves them with a unique history and culture that we really can't equate to whatever "white pride" is supposed to refer to in an american context
@ThinWhiteLuke
3 ай бұрын
“Black people” also aren’t a unified monolithic group. Everything you said about “whiteness” can be stated about “blackness”. Just like there is no “white” there is only WASP, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish etc. there is no “black” there is only Haitian, Nigerian, Ugandan, African American, Jamaican etc. you can’t say white people don’t exist, and then say black people do exist. This needs consistency on both sides.
@RangerNationDubs
3 ай бұрын
@@ThinWhiteLukeblack people exist, because African Americans have no way of identifying culture and history past slavery. Slavery washed them off most of there ethnic backgrounds. Creating black people or African Americans who do have a unique and unified culture outside of America itself. White people don't exist because your culture is not just easily perceived for the most part it is still intact.
@erickane457
3 ай бұрын
@@ThinWhiteLukeHold on, it’s not the same. The thing that makes that so confusing is because we use the word black to mean two different things. That would be African Americans and the race black that includes African Americans and Jamaicans and Africans. There is a black culture and a black pride to be spoken of. Also keep in mind black people still aren’t a monolith. So when they say they say there is a black culture but not a white culture. The black they are referring to is African American not Haitians or Jamaicans or Nigerians.
@AbracaDanielll
3 ай бұрын
“white” and “black” were only used for easier segregation.
@saltysocks1074
3 ай бұрын
@@erickane457 How is that different though exactly? "White culture" can't be in reference to anything from white American culture to All Western culture in general. Couldn't some white dude argue the same?
@ReddFoxx1562
3 ай бұрын
Being proud of something you didn't accomplish is one of the most smooth brained things
@SimnVersloot
3 ай бұрын
Have you ever been proud of a friend or partner? Did you accomplish that?
@ramiel___6042
3 ай бұрын
@@SimnVerslootYes
@SimnVersloot
3 ай бұрын
@@ramiel___6042 I asked 2 questions. Is your answer to both?
@OneEyed_
3 ай бұрын
Pride of one's culture is due to partaking in it and working towards continously keeping it the way it is, or possibly improving it. If you're proud of being American for example, you're not proud of winning the independence or the second world war, since you had nothing to do with it, but you have pride in that you're part of a culture that was able to achieve such heights. Unfortunately neither leftists nor rightists understand that and seem to boil national/cultural pride to the most surface level stuff.
@ReddFoxx1562
3 ай бұрын
@OneEyed_ That's pretty silly to me. Pride should be about personal accomplishments. Being proud of happening to be born in a certain time or place or with certain features or proclivities is incredibly daft. What next, bekng proud of the sun? How about being proud of atomic structure? We all have to participate to keep that up too right? It's inane.
@sarinat3101
3 ай бұрын
He may not be white but he's culturally appropriating their argument style like a master.
@MrLordFireDragon
3 ай бұрын
Gotta love the weekly clip of 'white supremacist' Destiny debunking racist talking points better than any of his detractors could. This is honestly something I think you could send to a conservative relative that might help give them a reality check, he answers it all so elegantly without resorting to unkind assumptions about the guy he's talking to.
@Awaken_To_0
3 ай бұрын
I'm black and American. When is " Black Pride Month?" I've never heard of that. I've heard of Black _History_ Month, but that has to do with recognizing the contributions and often overlooked group has made to society. Not Racial Pride.
@r.fumador1146
2 ай бұрын
Thats all bullshit. Just lest made a world party for everyone. We had 2 world wars but no world party
@deaconsmith8689
3 ай бұрын
Bots were quick on dis one
@TheKomentor
3 ай бұрын
You mean bot-ocks?
@aSSGoblin1488
3 ай бұрын
sneacko mpvs
@aepneuma
3 ай бұрын
Even in black only spaces I don’t think the people there would ban any white people from entering to learn. It’s just that it’s suggested that the space is targeted for black people
@anubis7457
3 ай бұрын
Black-only space kinda means black-only
@jeffblakeart5530
3 ай бұрын
@@anubis7457 What they're saying is black people wouldn't viciously exclude other people on the basis that they're not black; especially if they were there to genuinely learn and support them in good faith. We've seen this with the black panthers.
@link10909
3 ай бұрын
The KKK has a similar philosophy with their meetings if you listen to Darrell Davis' story...
@aepneuma
3 ай бұрын
@@link10909 except white culture isn't a thing
@HomoErectus311
3 ай бұрын
@@anubis7457 I think meant black spaces not black only lol . Like black colleges and black churches welcome white people if they wanna join
@jackderrida
3 ай бұрын
"An Irish safe-space" I think this sounded less ridiculous in his head.
@Andrew-s3b
3 ай бұрын
They’re called pubs.
@r.fumador1146
2 ай бұрын
Hahahahajahahaaahhahqhqq 😂😂😂 10/10@@Andrew-s3b
@AudaciousBourgeois
3 ай бұрын
This is such a 2015 conversation.
@MR-ig9gb
3 ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with blacks but...
@GabeIG
3 ай бұрын
white guilt lmfao that's such an american thing lol
@billballinger5622
3 ай бұрын
ALL white liberals suffer from it
@bullrun2772
3 ай бұрын
lol was on the discord when this happened lol
@SmileyAdventures
3 ай бұрын
It’s not Black pride month lol! It’s Black HISTORY month. It’s celebrating and appreciating the contributions that Black Americans have made in this country, which also is being erased and not told in books and schools. Slavery isn’t the only part of our story. Which is why it’s annoying when that’s all that’s mentioned pertaining to Black history. Hence why it exists.
@Mant111
3 ай бұрын
Cool! But why can't we be celebrating and appreciating the contributions of white americans, again?
@RangerNationDubs
3 ай бұрын
We are it's called American history class. You can see it through out elementary, middle school, and high school. @Mant111 when black history is taught in schools proper we won't need black history month easy.
@Kervath
3 ай бұрын
What's the nr. 1 'black contribution' to the world then?
@alexthomas962
3 ай бұрын
@@Mant111we already do lol
@TurtleChad1
3 ай бұрын
@@Mant111 slavery and discrimination?
@jamestownsassacre9211
3 ай бұрын
The whole "what are there like 5 klansmen left?" talking point is always a red flag. It's such a tired response and only serves the purpose of downplaying continued contemporary racism.
@musselbuoy4384
3 ай бұрын
Racism is like nationalism. It's fine to be proud (patriotim), just don't put people down when you do it (nationalism)
@TerpTheBandit
3 ай бұрын
I don't believe you know what nationalism means. Nothing about nationalism necessarily affects anyone else, let alone puts them down. That's not to say it CAN'T, under the right circumstances, but ultimately, it's about having pride in one's nation and unifying under said pride. In its purest form, nationalism is akin to individual self-love. Putting yourself before others, not dropping others altogether. If you're familiar with mental health practices, you can see how that would be valuable. You can't help others if you can't help yourself. You may be thinking of white nationalism, which is that + white pride, which does necessarily exclude others, but nationalism on its own can be good, bad or neutral. It just depends on the group behind it.
@Jannfndnanakid
3 ай бұрын
the fact he goes straight to "italian or irish" is revealing
@jaynukem1929
3 ай бұрын
For not being white, he sounds very white.
@jackblack9605
3 ай бұрын
Could be an Asian American
@TheRedHaze3
3 ай бұрын
That's totally not an extremely weird thing to say about someone. By the way, for someone else who sounds very white but isn't, check out Phil from City Planner Plays. Watch his videos first to hear him speak, and then watch his streams where he uses a face cam.
@chcsab9770
3 ай бұрын
So you want to tell me black people sound ret.rded????
@tyruswillier7358
3 ай бұрын
good one doesnt sound ethnic enough for you lol.
@n8orious699
3 ай бұрын
what do you want him to sound like?
@pr4208
3 ай бұрын
The people arguing about being proud of something you didn't achieve/an immutable trait don't fully understand the definition of pride. It's like the "phobia means fear, I'm not afraid of 🌈 so the term 'homophobia' doesn't make sense" argument. The definition of pride states it's not just related to what you've accomplished, but can _also_ be what others you're associated with have accomplished, or possessions you own. Like when a parent is proud of their kid's achievements. Pride is obviously internal, but it can also be external _by definition_ Pride in culture usually comes from an admiration/love of said culture and the enjoyment from partaking in it and keeping it alive. People that partake in their ethnic/cultural roots and don't just identify by race can often feel that way. A counter argument to that position is someone who feels proud of a job position/title they got through nepotism/work politics (sucking up to the right people without having the right qualifications.) You can argue they _shouldn't_ feel proud, but if they're feeling proud of their position, they're feeling proud _by definition_ lol
@pengwin_
3 ай бұрын
That dude is *GLOWING*
@dicktracy9473
3 ай бұрын
WTF are you talking about. There was no advocation for violence or political extremism. You have a buzzword problem.
@NickGhale
3 ай бұрын
4THOT fell off
@jarad9946
3 ай бұрын
the real argument should be you cannot be proud of an immutable trait. you cannot and should not feel pride for something you didn't accomplish or do yourself that's pretty cringe.
@frmrfr
3 ай бұрын
So you can't feel proud for a family member or close friend for accomplishing something? Interesting logic.
@darkbags39
3 ай бұрын
Tell that to..
@Trecesolotienesdos
3 ай бұрын
It’s gay pride as in proud in spite of past discrimination. You’ve proven that you never got the point of pride months
@TonyCox1351
3 ай бұрын
@@frmrfrif you are proud of close friend, presumably you are proud of their accomplishment, not an immutable characteristic, no? I’ve never heard someone say “I’m so proud my friend is blonde”. It’s more like “I’m proud my friend graduated college” which is exactly in line with OP’s post
@firesong7825
3 ай бұрын
@@frmrfr Obviously he's referring to beeing proud of oneself, not others.
@Section8dc
3 ай бұрын
I liked Stevens explanation of pride months/history months
@smileybagels
3 ай бұрын
One version of racism isn't better than another, because historically one was more prevalent. One it assumes minorities will always be minorities. Two it also assumes that skin color can determine the beingness of their potential for hate. It doesn't follow any logic other than some pretentious level of white guilt.
@greyjedi1272
3 ай бұрын
The problem with people crying over wanting to be proud of whiteness is because it’s always this super vague thing. Like there are Irish in German festivals in my area a few times a year. No one complains, no one calles it racist. But when you are pushing “whiteness” it seems to be about something other than culture.
@Macheako
3 ай бұрын
What’s “blackness”
@greyjedi1272
3 ай бұрын
@@Macheako it’s the culture made by “black people” in the US as they were cut off from their African culture. Also black Americans are made fun of when they try to connect to that African culture.
@low_vibration
3 ай бұрын
@@Macheako the same communist americentric bullshit as "whiteness"
@0redfr0g0
3 ай бұрын
@greyjedi1272 Would you say that instead of "Black" history (a race that encompasses many different cultures of Africa) We should instead use "African-American" or refer specifically to the decendants of the variety of Africans that were victims of the slave trade? (Which gets even crazier since due to pretty high rates of interracial marriage, many whites in the U.S. are also descendants of slaves.)
@greyjedi1272
3 ай бұрын
@@0redfr0g0 this topic gets annoying but the short answer is if you are “black” and you live in a country that is majority white you really don’t get your own identity in some ways. You could call yourself American but you really aren’t just American because look at the way we are treated for better or worse. While people in Jamaica or other “black” or African countries get their own identity aside from some generic black like in the US or Europe we are only seen as black even though we are very different people. So I don’t like black or African American to be honest.
@itscharlieschannel
3 ай бұрын
Has Destiny ever done a race tier list?
@tiromandal6399
3 ай бұрын
I say every exclusionary thing except for gender and age is discriminatory.
@freddie5ive
3 ай бұрын
Whitest man i've ever heard
@chcsab9770
3 ай бұрын
So you mean he sounds smart???
@freddie5ive
3 ай бұрын
@chcsab9770 no I mean his way of speaking and thinking sounds euro-american. him sounding like an idiot is unrelated
@chcsab9770
3 ай бұрын
@@freddie5iveoh are you one of those oppressed minorities who wants communism???
@RanDom-if2ee
3 ай бұрын
@@chcsab9770 youtube censored your comment because you're unhinged bro, i had to click on your profile to see it. Chill out.
@chcsab9770
3 ай бұрын
@@RanDom-if2ee oh yes holy cow i was super unhinged 😂i think this is america freedom of speech, greetings from germany✌️america has became soft and fragil
@TheSuperXNova
3 ай бұрын
Totally disagree with the black power stuff. I would say that it also has a negative history, but people are just less aware of it as the vast majority American children are actually taught about the horrors of reconstruction and segregation but not about any of the black power movements from the 60s to early 80s.
@Lemonteaxi
3 ай бұрын
The black power movements from those times were directly created from the large amount of racism that was already there. What is the reasoning for teaching about the negatives of the black panthers when the government did enough to shut that down on its own? The Reagan gun laws? Or do we just forget about that lol.
@user-vj9iy5we5q
3 ай бұрын
destiny uses debate tactics when arguing against white pride and doesn’t fully evaluate or engage in every argument about it, although i can’t fully blame him though bc none of these dudes are knowledgeable enough to debate him.
@jasonmain6398
3 ай бұрын
Black pride and black power in America are significantly less of a problem because of the place that it comes from in the United States. A black person in the United States can't be proud of being a Nigerian or a Senegalese or an Ethiopian because he doesn't know where he's from. So they have this shared black americanness. It's the only culture that they can draw upon.
@jasonmain6398
3 ай бұрын
To be clear, I mean less of a problem than white pride and white power
@TheSuperXNova
3 ай бұрын
@@jasonmain6398 Black power refers to a specific collection of ideological movements that developed in the 60s-70s in contrast and opposition to the ideas of civil rights leaders like MLK Jr. and has nothing to do with some general cultural pride in the black community. In actual effect on our country, these movements were infinitely less harmful than causes related to white supremacy due to the latter actual having broad institutional support and power throughout long periods of history, in which their white supremacy was actually effectuated by political force. However, on the level of ideas, the black power movements (some branches much worse than others) are themselves full of vitriolically racist ideas. Just look at the Nation of Islam, which promoted the idea under Elijah Muhammad that white people are not fully human and intrinsically evil due to their race alone.
@mastercats
3 ай бұрын
I think I mostly agree. But on his idea of safe spaces. I feel like he should have connected that to his pride month idea. If it's a place that generally doesn't have much representation one of race, giving them a space can encourage people to feel safe
@link10909
3 ай бұрын
"Safe" from what? If people are actually unsafe that sounds like a law/justice issue that should be fixed. If it's for the old fe fes because being around other races disturbs you then it is inherently racist. Explain how excluding people solely based on race from somewhere for "safety" is not ascribing a dangerousness to specific races.
@HomoErectus311
3 ай бұрын
@@link10909 A safe space doesn’t literally mean protection from danger and sure you know this lol
@O0kalā
3 ай бұрын
Don't sandbag other's experiences. Pride is left for accomplishments, not immutable characteristics.
@SimnVersloot
3 ай бұрын
I agree pride should be for accomplishments. I think an interesting question would be: "are you allowed to feel pride for others' accomplishments in the past & present?". Like being proud of a system or country that has been built up over the past hundreds of years, even while recognizing the negative consequences of said system. Starting from "we stand on the shoulders of giants", can and should we feel pride of our position on their shoulders and appreciate their accomplishments who got us where we are?
@pr4208
3 ай бұрын
This is kind of like the "Phobia means fear, I'm not afraid of 🌈" argument. The definition of pride states it's not just related to what you've accomplished, but can _also_ be what others you're associated with have accomplished, or possessions you own. Like when a parent is proud of their kid's achievements. Pride is obviously internal, but it can also be external _by definition_ Pride in culture usually comes from admiration/love of said culture and the enjoyment of partaking in it and keeping it alive. For most it's not a matter of taking credit of other's achievements/creations, it's a matter of feeling good to be a part of said community/culture and contributing to it
@Tarz2155
3 ай бұрын
You can’t be proud of being white you can be proud of being Irish German French English, etc. if you insist on being proud of being WHITE, you’re gonna have to take on all the negatives that came with people who also use that identity to claim superiority in history
@notanai-oj9bf
3 ай бұрын
You can be proud of being white. Just like you can be proud of being black, asian, latino or any other race/identity.
@PistonHonda87
3 ай бұрын
Can we say the same about black proud people and their history and crime? How about Arabs? Asians too.
@trapsarentgaymcgee5202
3 ай бұрын
@michealwatts7469
3 ай бұрын
The biggest problem is what Destiny described "When people talk about "White" spaces, "White Culture" etc. When it is Italian and British, Irish, Norwegian what have you.. The second part to that problem is saying "Well I'm Italian" and the response by the opposite side is "No you're white" So white people can be proud of being Italian but when the crimes of "white people" are brought up it is all encompassing now. Mind you I don't even agree with the "White Culture" thing.. No "White" culture I know of aside from Norwegian would eat fuggin Lutefisk as a Christmas dinner. My great grandfather would take the board it was on, cut half of it with a giant knife slide it on to his plate and hand the rest over.
@Paul94096
3 ай бұрын
I think the actual phrase was “I’m not white, I’m Italian”. As if on census surveys there’s black, white, Hispanic, native and Italian. Like please bffr.
@michealwatts7469
3 ай бұрын
@@Paul94096 What Im describing in the second portion was a personal conversation. I was specifying they were generalizing. I know on the job card you get put in a box other wise youd have 8 pages of boxes to look through. There is no one singular “white culture”
@aaaa-xf3hx
3 ай бұрын
@@michealwatts7469 I’d agree there’s no singular white culture but the reason people push back when you say ‘I’m not white, I’m Italian’ is you’re still white, you can be both.
@michealwatts7469
3 ай бұрын
@@aaaa-xf3hx I.. get it but its like then what is white? Just the skin color? Cause then its a meaningless descriptor aside from medical background and police profiling.
@aaaa-xf3hx
3 ай бұрын
@@michealwatts7469 well yeah but the same could be said for black people, this is the weird part. In America (may just be on the internet) you seem to have this obsession with black vs white because of the history of slavery. However, most white Americans don’t have any history of owning slaves in their family, and a lot of black Americans have no ancestors who were slaves, so it doesn’t really make any sense why you’re divided. Although it’s probably equally as destructive, countries that are decided by xenophobia and classism make a lot more logical sense
@Pauldwyn
3 ай бұрын
The problem with having these conversations is that the questions are usually never genuine and from a place of celebratory motivations. As Destiny correctly said in the video, if the person asking the question specifically talks about the "white" contextual block of American identity, it's usually masked behind something more suspect or devious. There's this common misconception among people who are just "asking" that white people in America are similar historically to black people in this country. You do not have a similarly severed history to the European continent that Black Americans do with Africa. Some white people see it as bad when it's actually good fortune. You are more informed on the history of your cultural lineage than those being compared, that shouldn't bother you or make you think it's unfair. Black power is socially accepted because the background context made it an appropriate broad phrase that represented their forcefully severed ties as a people. If Black Americans were kept in the loop about their countries of origin on slave ships and were not made into literal chattel, I'm sure we would agree that the saying isn't appropriate or logical. But we live in reality, and it did happen.
@HansWurst-gm2rx
3 ай бұрын
I would go with Morgan Freeman on that one, there should be no black history month - black history is american history. In my opinion this should be the case for all pride months. No pride months at all, every month is pride month for everyone.
@itzshft
3 ай бұрын
I think most people would agree with that if there weren't discrepancies in representation in education. The reason black history month became a thing was because black history was being suppressed in schools. It's rare to learn about African American accomplishments outside of black history month. Nearly everyone can tell you that Benjamin Franklin was struck by lightning while flying a kite, but many people can not tell you who Harriet Tubman was.
@thedancingpipestuffer
3 ай бұрын
@@itzshft then they should have implemented more african american history into regular history class instead of adding a black history month. These are always done to appease the specific group. Its like a mother telling her child "if you stop crying ill buy you a new toy"
@mikehawk9531
3 ай бұрын
if every month is pride month for everyone that just means all the months aren't pride months for anyone you can just say you dislike poride months or celebrations of diversity lil bro u dont need to pretend in yt comments
@Sam-bp2st
3 ай бұрын
@itzshft Perhaps for the US but does it make sense for Europe? It doesn't, so I don't ever understand why we celebrate it given Europe's is multiples times longer than the US yet we celebrate it as well despite no native population that has been here over 100 years, if you really want to, you'd be celebrating how slaves made the 18th century empires what they were which is not something to celebrate...
@thedancingpipestuffer
3 ай бұрын
@Sam-bp2st 😂 what european country celebrates black history month, im in europe as well and have never heard of that
@zimabluecascade
3 ай бұрын
Is this the KZitem channel @newdiscourses ?
@boticsgo
3 ай бұрын
Doesn't being proud of something means that that something is better than other things in that category in your eyes? If yes, than being proud of your skin colour meaning you are racist (whatever that colour is).
@deathbysloth
3 ай бұрын
In society there are some things which are explicit and some things which are implicit. They are interacted with in the same way. It seems most Lefty solutions to implicit issues is to approach them explicitly. I believe this will never be maintainable long-term because that doesn't seem to be how human psychology operates.
@fixpontt
3 ай бұрын
it is always suss when a member of a majority group tries to minic minority behaviour and reasoning
@kylecooper4620
3 ай бұрын
Thumbnail is referring to Destiny in this video. Lol
@Tyrantisnotok
3 ай бұрын
Am I dumb or does the guy sound like Vaush?
@mattreigada3745
3 ай бұрын
A solid argument Destiny missed towards the end is that "white" Americans are a conglomeration of ethnic and national identities that are still largely known to "white" individuals. If you are Scottish, Russian, or Italian in ancestry/ethnicity then chances are that you know that and you know what background your family is from. That is largely not the experience of "black" Americans because of slavery. *Maybe* your family is Nigerian, but they could also likely be from anywhere along the western coast of the continent. That personal history is erased for black Americans, and very often the only ethnic identity they have that they can relate to others with is at the level of "black" and "American."
@sapnupuas6950
3 ай бұрын
Groyper Vaush
@chickenandksivideoreviewer9739
3 ай бұрын
Thats every month
@__G__-
3 ай бұрын
The arguement that slavery was a long time ago is crazy. Roughly 160 years. That’s 2 80 year old life spans.
@0redfr0g0
3 ай бұрын
160 years ago is a long time, Darwin's Theory of Evolution, Germ Theory and Eddison's Lightbulb are all from around that time.
@Michael-kp4bd
3 ай бұрын
Also the end of slavery was still a good century away from civil rights… and don’t forget, that was still seen as a contentious at that 100 year mark (which puts us at 60 years ago, not 160). In a democracy, movements like that are inherently only capable of legislative success when the tides are turning, i.e., merely a plurality or majority of citizens have recently gotten behind it. In other words, massively unjust policies and general sentiment of racial inferiority of black people by the country as a whole weren’t simply evaporated in 1865 by way of Lincoln’s pen. Securing equal rights under federal law was only politically feasible 100 years _after_ that date, in the *1960s,* when the pushback merely slid to a slight minority opinion. If your claim is “that shit is the past,” you’d need cite a date of 1965 at the absolute earliest. Or at least back up a tedious claim that equality was somehow reached before then, despite racial discrimination of voting. Which, you know… good luck arguing the existence of liberty, justice, equality, etc for a people in your democracy when that group lacks the shared guaranteed opportunity to vote and be represented. _Merely_ citing “the end slavery” for that date gives off the critical thinking ability of a 2nd grader.
@galaxycraftings
3 ай бұрын
@@0redfr0g0 that only goes to show how recent those theories and eddisons lightbulb came about. Ur getting it mixed up.
@angrychair5864
3 ай бұрын
This conversation to europeans is hilarious
@galaxycraftings
3 ай бұрын
this dude is 1000% white lmao idk why he lied
@NateMcBrady
3 ай бұрын
There’s only one race; kinda weird how people suggest there’s more than one
@justmauldie
3 ай бұрын
bio-ontologically you are correct. but the socio-ontology (or construction) of race can be made manifest depending on the society in question
@mcdick1621
3 ай бұрын
@@justmauldie "but the socio-ontology (or construction) of race" yes but who except lowerclass brainlets cares about these arbitrarily made up and vague categorizations?
@thebronzemanticore
3 ай бұрын
Who fucking cares about race?
@scpjinchuriki3295
3 ай бұрын
Who has the time lmao
@angryretailbanker5103
3 ай бұрын
Besides the fact that "white pride" groups only take their pride by excluding non-whites, you also have to realize that this unified white European culture is a myth created here in America. In Europe, there are very much very important distinctions between British, Irish, French, Spanish, German, and so on, cultures. The reason "black culture" is a real thing and "white culture" isn't is because black culture here in America is ultimately the product of slavery. Slave ships didn't keep detailed histories of their slaves, and the prior heritage of former slaves were effectively erased. After that, entire generations lived and died in chains on the plantations. Effectively, the heritage and cultural ties of black Americans effectively start right here in the United States on those very plantations. There is no differentiation between Nigerians, Kenyans, Ethiopians, and so on. With white people, none of this is true. Heck, with African immigrants that are either first or second generation, none of this holds true. Africans in America (as opposed to what we commonly think of when we say "African-Americans") are like Europeans and can trace their heritage and culture back to their old country and will identify more with Kenyan culture or Nigerian culture over black culture.
@logicbombs5490
3 ай бұрын
this dude stressed multiple times he's not white but then uses every single problematic talking point...
@DrStrangelove_
3 ай бұрын
Uncommon Tiny L
@bobSeigar
3 ай бұрын
You can also be "Racially" proud based on Science.
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