Why do you think it took Valve so long to address this?
@samsekora
3 жыл бұрын
no clue, maybe they were making minecraft updates
@fate715
3 жыл бұрын
@@samsekora Dumbest comment I have ever seen.
@justsomeoneelse5942
3 жыл бұрын
Greed/money.
@samsekora
3 жыл бұрын
@@fate715 :(
@SerenityJayne
3 жыл бұрын
There are likely many reasons behind it. Valve is a very hands off secretive company. It’s very frustrating a lot of the time
@MynameisJohnRafael
3 жыл бұрын
"Use match fixing." - Sun Tzu, The art of war.
@eksporter
3 жыл бұрын
"--and not get caught"
@_-ronin-_5521
3 жыл бұрын
No "Cheat if you must But thou shall not be Caught" - Sun Tzu
@Triantalex
3 жыл бұрын
false.
@TheJerbol
3 жыл бұрын
I wish we had less rhetorical questions being repeated and more clips of the blatant fixing.
@dyes5019
3 жыл бұрын
Actually only 2 clips about what this video was made about -- does the guy talking make the video? I know who to avoid in the future lol
@-Timur1214
3 жыл бұрын
@@dyes5019 Well watch the "ok hand is not ok overwatch" video from Daniel, then you know who to avoid aswell, that guy got so much hate for that video but a lot of new subscribers don't even know that video
@dyes5019
3 жыл бұрын
@@-Timur1214 Daniel still had a video that provided context, information, and references more than rhetorics. Hate for a video =/= shitty reporting by someone who should definitely know better lol
@DragonChannelDragonCooper
3 жыл бұрын
He Won TI . I dont know how but for a second I though it was his name.
@s0xny41
3 жыл бұрын
Dead 😂😂
@ordine8142
3 жыл бұрын
xD
@mathiasbanke3085
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@ginoscl
3 жыл бұрын
☠☠☠
@damianwayne9567
3 жыл бұрын
roflmao bro chill
@asmerX100
3 жыл бұрын
sccc dodged a bullet here by leaving newbee...i like him a lot
@loulu8699
3 жыл бұрын
ikr...like holy sh** so glad he lft
@squidwardtentacles9533
3 жыл бұрын
Sccc is also a noble fire fighter
@MrBunnylow
3 жыл бұрын
Faith also is a good player ... Too bad ...
@willywira6376
3 жыл бұрын
Kpiii also
@27363h
3 жыл бұрын
And Kaka IG Top4 TI10.
@Spartadude3332
3 жыл бұрын
yo at 31 seconds in there is a kitty in the bottom left corner
@deschaingames1851
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I almost missed the kitty
@muhammadyusoffjamaluddin
3 жыл бұрын
Missed the kitty, take me back to time. :D
@gethyper24
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out chief, I didn’t realise people owned cats
@Spartadude3332
3 жыл бұрын
@@gethyper24 me neither
@orangefox6029
3 жыл бұрын
0:32
@rokudoshinichee6279
3 жыл бұрын
chinese dota get so much karma after shaming the TI6 champ, Wings Gaming
@caricature1997
3 жыл бұрын
Wings were not paid properly too
@Rifqiri
3 жыл бұрын
Trueeee
@nickyfandino8529
3 жыл бұрын
Damn what could've been. TI6 was so fun to watch
@eyeofagamotto6078
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@nalig6233
3 жыл бұрын
1:59 the cat in the back doing some random stuff
@1zzy772
3 жыл бұрын
A different one at 0:32. Josh must be a crazy cat lady then
@josetomascamposrobledano4618
3 жыл бұрын
This is why you just don’t gamble about who wins in any kind of competition ever
@TheJerbol
3 жыл бұрын
because there's a
@waylmaster7487
3 жыл бұрын
Also because gambling is stupid and bad.
@smogblazer4509
3 жыл бұрын
WaylMaster true
@zedrhyx1788
3 жыл бұрын
Chinese gambling is worth billion's and esports match fixing is worth the same
@jackjackyphantom8854
2 жыл бұрын
@@zedrhyx1788 So LGD lost to Team Spirit was also fixed? 😂 I don't know about that.
@ricardoedano767
3 жыл бұрын
Finally, a Dota 2 content
@olarennemo6788
3 жыл бұрын
A Dota 2 content?
@sethyzir666
3 жыл бұрын
@@olarennemo6788 A Dota 2 content
@ShrugSzn
3 жыл бұрын
A Dota 2 content
@natankende4973
3 жыл бұрын
Daugshit game
@borrogman5334
3 жыл бұрын
Dota is old
@smivy
3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! Thescore esports finally made a Dota video again? I thought you guys abandoned us.
@re-6440
3 жыл бұрын
They're currently making riot and streamers
@zoidcore6948
3 жыл бұрын
The ban was delayed because they were making operation broken fang, i.e. condom guy’s char design
@godsoffice5714
3 жыл бұрын
That project started 8 years ago and was finished after 4 years ago and they released both of the updates intentionally because Valorant closed beta came out, I mean Valorant is garbage game but a potential threat to CSGO, according to some fps pros and streamers like shroud, summit, JD, DrDisrespect, scream etc., So basically this reason shouldn't ezclude the fact that Valve is dogshit at making games and keeping the community happy plus their "Hands off approach" is like the cherry on the top or like pouring oil in the tormenting fire.
@hekipeki
3 жыл бұрын
@@godsoffice5714 what project? also there’s a hole in your brain if you think valve’s a unsuccesfull company.
@ChiralWolf
3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see LESS content only about streamers. Having what feels like every third video be about people that no longer have or never did have any connection to esports just looks like tabloid garbage.
@CallMeArashi
3 жыл бұрын
Just don’t watch it what’s the problem
@ChiralWolf
3 жыл бұрын
@@CallMeArashi at the start they asked for feedback. I’m giving it to them. If they hadn’t asked I wouldn’t have made this comment.
@Lone_Wolf_91
3 жыл бұрын
Yea. Like Ninja. Its just a freaking joke. I cant stand someone who i garbage compare to esport scene and he manage to ban one of them. Its just pisses me off so hard.
@smilingcat3851
3 жыл бұрын
streamer dramas are kinda annoying
@aspserpent
3 жыл бұрын
The spaces in this guy's sentences are like an all-encompassing void lmfao
@jeankofmorales8892
3 жыл бұрын
I know no one cares cause “it’s Fortnite” but newbee was also accused of withholding two pro player’s earnings from the Fortnite World Cup and then never paying it out. Everyone always wondered why both these players quit pro play following the World Cup and it’s starting to add up. Rhidax I believe was the first one to mention this situation
@greatninja2590
3 жыл бұрын
Idk Chinese org be like that. If you complain you’ll get banned
@TheJerbol
3 жыл бұрын
A little context for the 'win probability graph' would have been appreciated for non-DOTA players
@zomfgroflmao1337
3 жыл бұрын
Basically Ai calculates the win chance for a match based on previous matches and shows it as a graph.
@chikin6146
3 жыл бұрын
@@zomfgroflmao1337 isn't it the win probability current match they're playing? based on the team/individual hero networth, exp, heroes, and hero match-up? I think it also takes into account other variables like item built, towers pushed and probably how many team fights you've won during the match to see well you handle them
@genlibrus3c
3 жыл бұрын
So Dota have live win probability graph that the spectator (who have dota+) can see in game. you can see the graph showed that Avengerls has >90% win probability from minute 15-25ish. And the graph movements towards Newbee after that can indicate many things, such as good teamfight after good teamfight from Newbee, or blatant throw from Avengerls. But in this match, the latter is what happened. Hence the casters said "Here i show you the win probability without comment".
@120rikeshlawoju2
3 жыл бұрын
its self explanatory
@jamalalkaabi8
3 жыл бұрын
Rip MF DOOM
@D33P_33
3 жыл бұрын
I think it's because they weren't just investigating 10 players but also an entire org. To be fair a lot of jobs are at stake and if Valve gets this wrong so many people's careers can be destroyed. This is also an international thing so because of this there are probably language barriers. Its a TI winning team plus a TI winning player. It shows that no one, not even a TI winning ORG or player can get away with it.
@3ntr0py25
3 жыл бұрын
2:01 the cat really found something good
@adalVlVV33
3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or Josh speaks so slow that I actually used 1.25x speed to get this video sounding normal
@ckngmad1357
3 жыл бұрын
damn its true try it out guys
@spammingtitanxd6687
3 жыл бұрын
Lol I try it was true
@christophermarshall9079
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't need that shot at my dad, HE'S JUST WAITING IN THE LONG QUEUE AT THE SHOPS
@christophercastillo2303
3 жыл бұрын
Its sad that TI10 got cancelled. but... TI11 with the additional TI10 prizepool sounds even better thats $40mil + this years prize pool. even has the possibility of reaching $100mil then another milestone for dota2
@hyperssr
3 жыл бұрын
That’s not just a milestone for dota, it’s a huge milestone for esports overall. I don’t think there was even been a prizepool reaching $50mil so having $100mil will be huge
@Xel-
3 жыл бұрын
It will still be ti10.. but I think there's an upcoming battle pass so there's a possibility of increasing the prize pool
@BrendanGeormer
3 жыл бұрын
For the future, when the camera is just on the talking head, I wouldn't mind it zooming in on the cats in the background :)
@orangefox6029
3 жыл бұрын
0:32 A cute kitten 1:58 A cute cat 2:13 Floating cat 2:31 Cat has left the scene TheScoreEsports is controlled by cats confirmed
@noizy514
3 жыл бұрын
I do remember the days of meme videos. /chef's kiss/
@arandomguy6493
3 жыл бұрын
It's sad because newbee was really good during their time in the ti winning year.
@Danceofmasks
3 жыл бұрын
Oh come on. A lifetime ban is getting off lightly. In Starcraft, matchfixers got the entirety of their lifetime achievements deleted, their awards revoked, their names scrubbed from existence, and then got felony convictions. It's just heavy handed enough, that managing to avoid actual jail time was their "slap on the wrist."
@sarangkulkarni4963
3 жыл бұрын
that sounds too harsh
@Danceofmasks
3 жыл бұрын
@@sarangkulkarni4963 how is it AT ALL harsh? they're not just breaking gambling laws, they're doing it by literally stealing from other gamblers. if someone who lost a lot of money this way were to smash all the matchfixers' kneecaps with a lead pipe, i wouldn't be the least bit surprised.
@zoedesvl4131
3 жыл бұрын
Newbee was technically dead after May 2020. Their last weibo was a complaint of their ban decision and nothing further. And they didn't attend any events after that.
@salvequick
3 жыл бұрын
He's back making videos? He was the reason I even started watching this channel.
@Monotheist137
3 жыл бұрын
Esports have too strict policiea regarding banning. No other sport have anything close like this. In mma Jon Jones got positive for cocaine, he admited he was marijuana addict, he tested positive for PED, got into hit and run accidents etc etc and got 4 year suspension. In esports guy do something they get banned for life. I dont know if its right or wrong but its worth discussing.
@zafk1el93
3 жыл бұрын
Funny how I went to this video after 322 views
@KHkhalil313
3 жыл бұрын
i just don't know what to say it's sad to lose that team from the comp Dota
@lyonvensa
3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why Valve takes a while is because it's a team based in China. China has plenty of E-Sports organization like ACE that basically handles most, if not all, their Dota 2 teams. If the video is implying that the Chinese organization should _tell_ Valve about it since China is pretty secluded even there Dota 2 scene, then they're probably trying to handle it themselves. Then they either told Valve eventually, or Valve found out first.
@cinnamon3578
3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. They were banned from Chinese tournaments since the incident in May 2019. A report was sent to Valve/Perfectworld back then
@archimedislapaz4070
3 жыл бұрын
The cat is confused why his pet hooman is talking to a screen
@carl4243
3 жыл бұрын
Matchfixing in dota is really easy since you could just say the enemy just made a comeback, it's also hard to see if the player is throwing or not.
@KidTrigger
3 жыл бұрын
True but the pay is so high so most people don’t do it
@trishantdinda3407
3 жыл бұрын
No , people who watch Dota regularly know when something is fishy. Xiao8 who was a former Newbee member of the ti winning roster (but now has retired) predicted on stream saying " I would eat shit if this isn't match fixed".
@roland1062
3 жыл бұрын
Plot Twist: Josh's dad went to the gas station 15 years ago to get cigarettes and never came back. Lol
@suhdud4646
3 жыл бұрын
My dad left to the gas station and never came back because he probably works at valve where priorities take a place on the back burner or its just easier to cancel acknowledgment of responsibility.
@twarog4916
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know if the title is a sentence or this guy's name is He Won Ti
@ximbabwe0228
3 жыл бұрын
A name destined for victory
@yohankim5805
3 жыл бұрын
I love the animals just cruising in the background
@vkosasihh
3 жыл бұрын
i remember betting this match, put my money on Newbee & i was shitting myself watching the game live
@carlvensia5136
3 жыл бұрын
Why would you even try to match fix if not only your career is at stake but also the whole team?
@ottomay6834
3 жыл бұрын
There were some really great games palyed in competative dota in 2020
@Calltrops77
3 жыл бұрын
Arrow gaming who made it to TI also got lifetime bans. They were top of the sea mmr table too
@stefansanityy
3 жыл бұрын
Lol the questions in the end are so like TV Media bs. Lmao. We don't know what happened with Valve and it seems like almost every thing that Valve makes that ain't the way the people wants, they make it controversial. Looool
@b1ba593
3 жыл бұрын
Valve just lost Faith. Literally...
@5ythical
3 жыл бұрын
imagine being 322'd in 2021 OMEGALUL
@throwaway756
3 жыл бұрын
Valve and no communication Name a more iconic duo.
@Anthony0482
3 жыл бұрын
2:30 cat your welcome
@MechaTheSpider
3 жыл бұрын
Supposedly a vast majority of chinese teams match fix, which may have to do with actual triads being involved. Shit over there is wild, man.
@jerxvan1
3 жыл бұрын
i thought his name is He Won TI
@m4a1snerfed
3 жыл бұрын
how does this affect their social credit score?
@SCRKT007
3 жыл бұрын
wtf is social credit score
@m4a1snerfed
3 жыл бұрын
@@SCRKT007 "The social credit system draws on mass data collection and analysis to assign citizens, businesses, and government officials a credit score reflecting their trustworthiness as members of society. Citizens with good credit scores are eligible for benefits such as priority admission to schools, faster career advancement, and tax breaks, while those with bad credit are subject to punishments like restrictions on travel, ineligibility for jobs, and reduced access to social services."
@brendameistar
3 жыл бұрын
@@m4a1snerfed essentially credit ratings with better incentives. Gotcha
@kevinvicks5349
3 жыл бұрын
Valve time is like the measuring the heat death of the universe in eons.
@mahiru20ten
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what kind of scene would we have if match fixing were legal and even encouraged...
@Хаген-е1ы
3 жыл бұрын
I thought the title was T1 I was seconds away from rioting
@JROD2172
3 жыл бұрын
2:15 CATTTTTTT
@aonuma_41
3 жыл бұрын
I like that every time they have news about some banned and they will also talk about solo
@dindina8058
3 жыл бұрын
ti without a crowd will be sad.
@enzoeem
3 жыл бұрын
so was Wings Gaming right? all players from the ti6 champion roster was banned right?
@Nulrom
3 жыл бұрын
Someone in Valve needs to be fired, they are trowing away a Golden Egg Chicken. For nothing.
@darugdawg2453
3 жыл бұрын
I mean courts take yrs to process cases. You can just give bans if youre not 200% sure. This is not twitch
@YasirKhan-ey6hi
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being upset that valve did their own due diligence. I’d rather they take a year and give proper punishment instead of banning everyone in a month and being completely wrong. These guys just lost their livelihood and their reputations for life so of course valve is gonna take their time deciding the ban
@waduhek3988
3 жыл бұрын
Thank god it isn’t OG
@BorealColdstone
3 жыл бұрын
I wish
@agofpos
3 жыл бұрын
match fixing is rampant in dota 2.. the very obvious and the most legal way is : 1. fixed hero draft - players will still play their best, but the outcome is already decided by just looking at the draft. example is 3 melee cores VS tekis or sniper vs PA 2. Out of the blue standin - during tournament, a team changes a teammate to standin 3. Player position shuffled out of the blue / Player not playing signature hero even if picked Already lost money. My advice is just stop your gambling addiction.
@craatlantic7
3 жыл бұрын
7:05 God that burns. It's a cigarette burn, but it burns. Nice.
@NabaniSaa
3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the data had many 3's embedded in the info, causing Valve to outreach lawyers because they don't understand that number. /s
@mamamo1639
3 жыл бұрын
The title is misleading, the host never talk about "he" the guy who was won and was banned. Rather questions valve for their investigation
@UWE45
3 жыл бұрын
what was that shot against valve at the end for? unnecessary opinion dropping, doesn´t have anything to do with the topic at hand
@crazyblood.3633
3 жыл бұрын
Valve doesn't care about gaming scene.. Just about skins they can release. Thats about it and selling other games on their application.
@markpaloma3914
3 жыл бұрын
so is that a P5 Makoto poster on the background?
@manoi8
Жыл бұрын
Valve hasn't cared about dota lately. this one, the Chinese Dota is dying, is also just another impact of it. Basically, it's way more profitable to just stick to streaming and match-fixing than actually winning the tournament. The game has been stale and the prize pool for tournaments has been lowered. I can kinda understand if valve not caring about the mainstream audience but not caring about your core players is kinda sad
@witheringtie9754
3 жыл бұрын
I just watched the cats in the background the whole video
@gold9994
3 жыл бұрын
Well, I assume, if they bet for their win, it should be allowed.
@HiddenValar
3 жыл бұрын
The end convo is the best part of the video
@KarkySphere
3 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail looks like an episode of hot ones
@Jonathanizer
3 жыл бұрын
You kept repeating how it was sooooooo long. I completely disagree. 1. Valves decision was about ending careers, so should not be taken lightly. 2. Real life investigations and court cases often take many years, until a verdict is found. Eight months really is pretty fast by comparison.
@RapFa-Hater420
3 жыл бұрын
this took so long because DPC season recently started
@justpassingby2963
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, we already expected too much from Valve. We only got disappointments in return.
@mmcgear4376
3 жыл бұрын
yo, where did you bought your office chair it looks cool?
@gunnation3497
3 жыл бұрын
Legal reasons take months to properly put together. A CYA mentality to keep them out of the muddy waters.
@sweggib
3 жыл бұрын
mans throwing
@critoypalaca576
3 жыл бұрын
Next Content Suggestion: Debate if we should consider mobile gaming as an esports
@suzuyes2881
3 жыл бұрын
It is eSports no matter what people say
@atlastheclouded
3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who's pre sure most esports are fixed?
@Paul-zb2fm
3 жыл бұрын
Why are you telling 300x why it took so long and dont go into the fact that the winning team got banned for matchfixing?? I mean if the enemys throw ofc ill take it
@maunabesanika
3 жыл бұрын
So... I can safely say that TI4 is the worst TI now?
@GranMaj
3 жыл бұрын
well its TI4 winner we talking about, the most stale and the most predictable final. I am not even surprise if back then i am suspecting a matchfixing from them.
@BersCasper
3 жыл бұрын
TI4 final is so boring.
@GranMaj
3 жыл бұрын
@@BersCasper its the most boring meta in general. too much snowballing.
@imeldomarcos4126
3 жыл бұрын
Ban for life ? Even mma doesnt do that.
@die90s._.7
3 жыл бұрын
Many people dream of wanting to become a professional player, but this guy is killing his own career, but it's worth it if he bet 2 million dollars🤣🤣🤣
@fahimannaim2517
3 жыл бұрын
Pro cant bet unless use proxy
@icroosing
3 жыл бұрын
I believe those bet were canceled
@imnormal-sl8mj
3 жыл бұрын
i mean dota is a garbage game right now, gambling his career for even 322 dollars is worth it
@East16
3 жыл бұрын
dude when i saw this i was concerned OG lost some roster
@dane17eduard
3 жыл бұрын
are you gonna make a video about Twitch removes PogChamp from their emotes list ???
@Justin-kd4tg
3 жыл бұрын
This guy cannot stop moving his hands
@prabhashchandra9116
3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys. Just a suggestion. Make a video on China and their impact on the skins market in games like CS, DOTA, etc.
@jqkob7407
3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the death of Starcraft.
@seramorylorch9332
3 жыл бұрын
story of admiralbulldog when
@justforkics3384
3 жыл бұрын
Josh make another one those vids of yours, I miss those vids man.
@drizzy6302
3 жыл бұрын
I still think wings was Goat team they diddnt lose a single game formed like 1 month before ti
@yapzormiracle1402
3 жыл бұрын
i stilm think only wings can clap og
@JaredOnAir
3 жыл бұрын
He made some moonshine lets go hang out in his weird cabin" lmao idky but this sent me
@Jan-nt8yu
3 жыл бұрын
Not So fast but still here.
@nickglenn4946
3 жыл бұрын
i guess winning TI isn't fun for him anymore. winning bets are
@philhavok169
3 жыл бұрын
The rules are what the owners want and they have to be fair
@Krustulum
3 жыл бұрын
I have the same chair as you, but in gray.
@NeoBoller
3 жыл бұрын
Valve reviewing something is like their anti cheat old and it will take ages to take action.
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